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April 21, 2025 • 14 mins

Join @thebuzzknight and @theharryjacobs at The Music History Desk for a look at the week of 4-21. 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi. This is Buzznight that host the Taketo Walk podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
And now we've got to look at music history for
the week of April twenty first, and for that, as
we always do, we go over to the music history
desk to the one and only music fan podcaster purveyor
of all things music history, Harry Jacobs.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome back, purveyor. Is that like to do?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Would you consider like a hot dog vendor on the
Boston Common or in you know, in Manhattan, the purveyor
of hot dogs? I mean, is that the same kind
of thing? When you say purveyor, I'm a you know,
not necessarily a salesperson, but but I give the information out.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I couldn't have said it any better.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Just like a hot dog vendor, only with music history.
And with that in mind. April twenty first, nineteen sixty one,
the Beatles got together for the first time in public
at the Cavern Club. What I what I've noticed it
started doing this. There is not a week in music
history in the four months we've been doing this that

(01:07):
there's not something Beetle related in any given week.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
And you gotta love that, right, Yeah, you gotta love it.
Have you ever been to Liverpool.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I have not, and it's on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, I have not either, and I think.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
As I'm married to a photographer and we have talked
about this, she and I that would be a place
just Liverpool in general, because of the grittiness. She doesn't like,
you know, perfect things. To evidence by her being married
to me, she doesn't like perfect things as subjects. She

(01:45):
likes things that have great imperfections, and Liverpool seems like
that place. I'm sure if we went to the Caravan
Club we would be probably underwhelmed to some degree. It
would not be what we imagine it, but that definitely,
you know, would love to make that trip.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
You can tour Abbey Road as well. I mean, there
are plenty of plenty of things and places you know
to go.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Have done that, I got to Oh okay, I got
to do that one time once again. Incredible experience. But
when you're there you understand the history and the depth
of it, but it's you kind of go.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Wow, I didn't picture it to look like this.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think that's the way with a lot of things.
Did you and I ever have the conversation about Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
No, I'm a motorcycle guy and I've taken a couple
of trips to Sturgis, and one of those trips, you know,
I wanted to see Mount Rushmore. You know, the history
and this is an important part of our country, and
I was underwhelmed it was so small. It was you know,
we see it in pictures and we see it on

(02:56):
television and it looks like it's enormous. But the first
thought I had in my head was, Holy God, this
is small. So but things are often different than we imagine.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
They're going to be different perspective, that's right.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah. On this date in nineteen ninety, McCartney had a
concert in Rio and and this.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Is the world. He holds the world's record, at least
at that point.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
He did one hundred and eighty four thousand people at
the Paul McCartney show in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I wonder how many ambulances were there to watch over
the crowd during that experience.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I would imagine and Rio is a tough city, right,
There's a lot of a lot of crime. There's a
lot of nonsense that happens down there. I saw him
by that run in nineteen ninety at the Centrum and
I was just.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Blown away, like hearing him sing Fool on the Hill
and you know all these I mean full in the Hills,
I think probably my.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Favorite, you know, Beatles song. But hearing him sing those
Beatles songs and I know it's just it's you know,
it makes you emotional to hear and he loves them
like his, they're his. It's like there is kids.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
April twenty second, nineteen seventy, the first Earth Day was celebrated,
and it was founded by a politician and a conservationist.
Day Lord Nelson was his name. Little history with birth Day,
don't we buss?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeahs, only we could milk something for the certificates of
what we were doing that This was the day every
year that our former radio station WZOX would do the
free concert on the Hatshell known as.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
The b N So we chose to do. Do I
have that right? Am I confusing this with Bos's Earth
Day Concert? I think I am.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know what, I think You're probably right? So WBOS
this is fine. We're going to leave this in here
because it just shows our lack of memory for that
time in Hayes in the mid nineties. But you ran,
first of all, you ran w CLX for those listening
in the Boston area legendary class sick rock station w ZX.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And that's basically how Buzz and I connected.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
We did concerts on the hatshell at that, you know,
when we were at that station, a whole bunch of
different things, the band and Peter Frampton and Warren Zevon.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And boy Ry.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I will never speak ill that that, but Warren Zevon,
I want to pain any ass that guy was to me. Yeah,
he insisted on vegetables from Whole Foods or whatever it
was raw so we could he could juice them, but
he smoked one cigarette after another. He literally smoked me
out of his dressing room.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But we get a whole series of concerts.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then after you were at ZLX, you went to
go work for Greater Media and we're overseeing a bunch
of stations, including WBOS and they.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Had the earth Dake concert.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
That's what you're thinking about ZLX, we did the b
in the classic b in and at WBOS, I think
they did the Earthqake.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I never worked at that station, but I remember you
work on that.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So yeah, and a lot of great artists over the
years would play at that at that event. Yeah, I
mean Brandy Carlisle before she became a big star that
she is to this day.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
You know Guster for a number of years who always
doing this popularity.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
WBOS was called an adult alternative station Triple A, So
there's a lot of acts like that. But I'm sure
I'm missing a lot of cool artists that played it
at that event. I think, you know, spin doctors come
to mind. But yeah, I was screwing up the b
N with bos's Earth Day celebration.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Listen, we're not getting any younger. The mind is one
of the first things to go next to our knees
and hips, so I get it. It's okay. April twenty third,
nineteen sixty three, the Beatles and the Stones met for
the first time. And it wasn't out back of the
Cavern Club by the dumpster for a fight. It was
a friendly meeting at the Crawdaddy Club in England.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
But that must have been an interesting meeting. Salty would
be the way I would describe the meeting. I bet, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
A lot of competition between the two and as we've
talked about, you were in one camp or you were
in the other. Again, I go back to the Alex
Lifson interview that you did where he talked about you
asked him about influences and you know, Beatles or Stones.
He said owardly, I'm you know, I'm a Stone's guy,
not a Beatles fan.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I appreciate George Harrison, but I'm a Ston's guy. That's right.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, probably an interesting meeting Salty in nineteen seventy six.
On April twenty three, the Ramones released their self titled
debut album, a seminal work in punk rock history. Two
things here. One Joey Ramones the ugliest looking guy in
music history as far as I'm concerned. And number two,
I missed the boat on Puck. I know nothing about

(07:47):
the Ramones other than Joey's tall and he looks like
Howard Stern.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
So well, it's some of it passed me by at
the point it was out for sure, not gonna lie,
and over time it would I would grow into it.
And if you want to check out a really cool
past episode of Taking a Walk. Danny Fields, who was

(08:11):
the main instrumental almost in defining what punk rock would become.
Uh he was their their manager at the time and
probably their publicist.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Also was for Lou Reed over a period of time.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And but we took a walk through Greenwich Village and
walked by Joey ramone way, and uh had quite a
quite a time telling telling stories. But Danny, Uh, Danny,
God love him and is in his early eighties and
still as feisty as ever.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Were you into the Ramones' music right anyway?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
But but then when you know, over time, especially with
some of the mainstream rock stations, who would play music
that was with touch punk and would be you know,
to play some of these anthems because let's face it.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Come to off high school had anthems.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah. Interesting. April twenty six, nineteen sixty nine, you know
again we got another Beatles related the story multiple times
in this In this week, McCartney denied rumors that he
was dead, addressing this, you know, Paul is dead.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
The conspiracy that ran around. Did the Beatles have.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
A lot to do with that, you know, with like
a day in a life and and there were there
were things tied to that period of time.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Where did they.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Perpetuate this conspiracy that that Paul was dead?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think it's sort of the equivalent which we've talked
about in previous episodes of of How Pink.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Floyd with the Wizard of Oz stuff. I think how
maybe perpetuate would be harsh.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
They certainly didn't discourage some of the chatter because they
they understood how to work the media and basically, but
I don't know of perpetuate, maybe just shy perpetuate.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, well, you know, any press is good press, right,
So they kind of rode on it.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
And then McCartney came out and yep and.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Said, you know, I'm alive them here long before there
was cloning, that's right, exactly yep. In nineteen eighty six
April twenty sixth Van Halen started a three week run
for fifty one fifty their album with Sammy Hagar two
camps right, two van actually three with Gary Sherome. But really,

(10:36):
when you think about Van Halen, you know mainly two lives.
They got a Roth life and they got a Sammy
Hagar life. Sammy point I want to ask you about
your perspective on it. But Sammy pointed out something very
interesting about that. You know, the Wroth era was ain't
talking about love, right. The Sami area was why can't

(10:57):
this be lof right? So Sammy would sing these songs
about love and heartbreak, and the wroth iteration of van
Halen was, you know, I don't give a shit James crying.
He't talking about love like you know it was. It's
kind of an interesting dichotomy between those two guys.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's an interesting analysis. I saw that I'm run of
shows then, and I found it really enjoyable, you know,
seeing them and seeing you know, Sammy and I liked
I liked that album, you know, I mean definitely for
probably real super super hardcore van Halen fans was pansying

(11:40):
out a bit, but I liked a lot of those songs.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I'm sorry, I.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I liked it too. I loved Sammy with I never
got to see him with with van Halen, but I
liked that music at that time. And I have you.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Met him, Yeah, he's a total gentleman to Yeah, it's great,
just a nice man.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I asked him about when I met him the album
I'm not even sure what was out mid you know again, around.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
This time after he after he left so before Gary Charon,
around ninety five ninety six. In that time, I met
him and I asked him about the van Halen thing,
and he was still heartbroken by it. You could see him.
I noticed that. My takeaway was not just when he's
a great guy, but he's still really emotional. Was van
halen breakup really hit him hard?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know? So he's got to run of shows here
in Vegas. He and Bruce Springsteen share the same road manager,
a guy by the name of Wayne Lebau who used
to work for the Boston Celtics, and Wayne lives in Framingham.
He's a He's a guy we know. And Wayne's gonna
be here in Vegas and I'm gonna I'm gonna get
to go see Sammy, So I will. If I get
to see Sammy, I will ask him about taking.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
A walk awesome with you. So you get that.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
There two final things for this week. In nineteen eighty five,
Coke introduced the New Coke, which is this reformation of
their legendary formula was out there and widespread dissatisfaction would
be the two words that come to mind when you
think about New Coke.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And to this day, if you have a conversation around
branding and marketing strategy, this is one that is looked
at in the.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Books as a classic failure.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Why would you fix something that's not broken, right, yeah,
ye crazy nineteen eighty six, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant happened.
I believe it was April twenty six, and just an
unbelievable tragedy. When you see pictures and you know there's
a new documentary that's out, it's on my Amazon list

(13:50):
to watch, but it's, you know, an unbelievable thing that
happened in Chernobyl.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Or atrocious, the devastation and the lingering effects for so
long they were really not lingering. I mean to this
day there's effects that obviously exist.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
So yeah, crazy. Well, and anyway, there you go this
week in music history, the twenty first through the twenty
seventh of April. Next thing, you know, we're in May. Oh, thanks,
it'd be big.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
There you go, and I'm sure there'll be some Beatles
in there, all right, Harry, Well, thank you for another
look at music history, and thanks for checking out the
Taking a Walk podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
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Speaker 2 (14:29):
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