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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Buzz Night.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And this is the Take in a Walk podcast. And
this is another edition of This Week in Music History
for the week of December twenty ninth into January fourth.
So Master of Music Mayhem Harry Jacobs. This is officially
Heart twenty twenty five, Part twenty twenty six, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, it's dual year. Absolutely it is.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Boy that is really going to make my head fly off.
But I think we could make a run of it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
No, I'll make it easy. We're going to start with
a bang. It's about Elvis. This is kind of interesting.
He made history on this date with ten simultaneous top
one hundred songs in nineteen fifty six. I mean, here's
just a few Heartbreak, Hotel Houndog, Don't Be Cruel and
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Love Me Tender. We're part of that group of songs.
Imagine that, having ten simultaneous songs in the top one.
I don't think anyone's ever done it since a little Beatlesque. Yeah,
a little Beatlesque, but I don't I didn't see the
Beatles do that. The Beatles, I mean, the Beatles did
some great things. You know, they had multiple years in
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a row on Christmas with number one songs and all that,
but I you know, I don't think that anyone has
beaten that record of ten inside the top one hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Listen, I need to throwing shade at Elvis.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
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literally going to our sponsor while you're running your mouth.
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sponsor of the show Claude dot a. I did anyone
have ten songs simultaneously in the hot one hundred besides Elvis?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm gonna guess Poplo Cruise is going to pop up?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
What you're gonna do when she says goodbye? How's that
for a little unaided recall?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's not bad?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh oh, I was wrong. I should have thought about this.
Taylor Swift, oh swifty top ten the entire top ten
of the Hot one hundred on three separate, O k oh,
I'm a moron.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh boy, this is a demerit. Drake occupied nine of
the top ten positions in twenty twenty one, and the
Beatles locked down the entire top five only in nineteen
sixty four, so Elvis's achievement was matched and exceeded, and
streaming obviously changes the way things work. But let's not
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take anything away from the king. Nineteen fifty six, ten
songs in the top one hundred, so not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I would never take anything from away from who I
affectionately called the Master of mutton chops.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, that's that's that's him.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're the master of music mayhem. He was the master
of other muddon chops, mutton chops.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
In twenty twenty one, Adele's album twenty one became the
fourth biggest seller in the United Kingdom of all time.
This gave her the biggest selling album of all time
by a solo artist in the United Kingdom and a
twenty three week run is the longest by any female
solo artist in the US. It was number one for
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like twenty five or twenty four weeks, longest by anyone
for that period, from like nineteen eighty five it looks
like to twenty twenty one, So a nice run for
that Adele album twenty one. In nineteen sixty six, Paul
McCartney began working on Penny Lane. He said publicly has
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said publicly on a number of occasions that he got
the inspiration from pets sounds. They were all everyone was
watching what everyone else was doing. I mean, I'm sure
that does. I mean, that's always the way it is.
But in particular, this was an interesting time for music
with Phil Specter and the Beatles and the Beats Boys
all kind of playing with the wall of sound and
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having a lot going on in their music.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And none of them admitted then really that there was
this competitiveness going on. At least they were not really that,
you know, boisterous about admitting it. But then, as we
would learn later, there was always intense competitiveness going on.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, the lyrics had nothing to do with the Beats Boys.
That actually is a reference to their origins as young
men in Liverpool and Penny Lane in Liverpool. So nineteen
sixty eight, we've talked about this, talked about it last week.
Led Zeppelin played at the Civic Auditorium in Portland. They
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opened on that tour for Vanilla Fudge. Just an odd
pairing musically. They'd love Dodd pairings back then. Yeah, they
that certainly did. Interesting day in nineteen sixty seven. Dave
Mason quick Traffic the band really, I mean they were
formed in sixty six or sixty seven, so he wasn't
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with them for a long time. He actually wrote Feeling
all Right, which of course you know later became really
became a hit with Joe Cocker's version of it. Dave
Mason was nineteen at that time. Wow, so another young guy,
you know this was you know, think about it. Steve
Winwood was sixteen with Gimme Some Loving, you know at
that time with Spencer Davis and you know, a good
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time for kids.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dave would later go on.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
To play acoustic guitar on All Along the Watchtower, which
makes sense to me now because it was a song
that he played live often. His version of it, I've seen.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, and actually it was on his his white album
whatever that one was called too.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He did a version of it. Yeah, great, great, great version.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But he played with way he played session wise with Hendrix.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Is that what he did? He didn't And then he
also played on All Things Must Pass and he played
on Beggar's Banquet with the Stones as well, so he
you know, he participated in a number of projects, big
big projects really at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, great session work. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
He has struggled in recent years with health issues. He's
actually ended up retiring in June of this past year
related to you know, heart issues that he was having,
you know, consistently, and there was an infection really that
caused him to say, you know, and I just can't
can't do it anymore, so.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Wrote a book I think too. Yeah, you're correct, sir.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
In nineteen sixty two, Bob Dylan played the troubadour during
his first trip to London for Bucky.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He still loved doing those press conferences where he was
just holding back in his own way, not really giving anything,
but actually having a lot of fun jousting.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
With the reporters. Those were pretty cool to look at.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
He enjoyed being kind of elusive, being you know, a
little snotty, right.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I would say maybe he does still enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, you're probably right about that. On December thirtieth, Bo
Diddley recorded his first single, Bo Diddley. It was the
B side, or actually the B side was I'm a Man,
So two really big songs at once. Legendary version of
that song was bos I'm a Man and Bo Diddley,
which is, you know, famous the Bo Diddley beat. Right.
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He was born Ellis Otha Bates, and then he changed
it to Ellis McDaniel and then finally Bo Diddley. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I love those names.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, and that signature guitar of his was a cigar box,
that rectangular looking guitar that he played, It's a cigar box.
As a cigar smoker, I always identify that very easily
and always look good in a sharp suit and those
dark sunglasses. Bo Diddley nineteen fifty five, December thirtieth for
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Bo Diddley and I'm a Man. In two thousand and nine,
Neil Young was made an Officer of the Order of Canada.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's their highest or second highest.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Civilian honor that you can get. So interesting award for Neil.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Have you seen the Neil Young thing where he's playing
in a pham booth and he's doing Gordon lightfoots if
you could read my mind? Oh no, yeah, you got
to check that out. It's a pretty great version. It's
pretty it's bizarre in its own way, but it's a
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pretty great version.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Definitely check that out. Ohone booth, Okay, I'll do that. Yeah,
I love that song by Gordon Lightfoot.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So I just saw something with him on you driving
through you know, Toronto or Saint Catharine's or somewherever. He's
from you know, talking about his career and you know,
while he's driving his pickup truck.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So at any rate, Ivan Wrightman, Mario Lemieux, the Great
hockey player, and Burton Cummings also received that award. The
Officer of the Order in Canada as well.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I think you're deserving of the Officer of Mayhem award.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I will take it, will and I will take it
any awards, any trophies. Nineteen ninety nine, George Harrison and
his wife Olivia. You probably remember this. They were attacked
in their home by some knife wielding lunatic. Police say
that it was not just a robbery or a home invasion.
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This was a targeted attack on George Harrison in Hawaii, right, correct, Yeah, correct.
I believe at the time he was also battling lung Camp,
so I don't know that we knew anything about that
at the time, but he ended up losing that battle
in twenty twenty one to lung cancer. So an awful thing.
(10:13):
You know. I think we were all kind of scratching
our heads after what happened to John and think, you know,
this is just it's bad.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
The Soviet Union USSR dissolved in nineteen ninety one on
this date, kind of a big and important date in
seventy We can't get through one of these weeks without
something beatles, and this isn't really a great one. In
nineteen seventy Paul ended up filing suit against the other
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three boys because they had failed to dissolve their agreement.
He moved to dissolve the band, the partnership. He indicated
in the lawsuit that it was because they weren't touring,
they weren't doing anything anymore, and of course John in
I think August of six sixty nine, had basically started
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telling people that he was done. They didn't formally break up,
according to the legal process until nineteen seventy five. Late
seventy four or early seventy five is when they were
actually dissolved as a band.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Crazy to think about that, Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It's one of those you know. It was a it
was a business deal, and McCartney was pissed that they
went and got a business manager after they were done touring.
The other three guys went and hired a guy by
the name Alan Klein. McCartney wasn't included in that process
and that set him off and he filed suit and
you know, played out and played out in court, like
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so many of these things do.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Let the lawyers get at it right absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
December thirty first New Year's Eve. Jimmy Hendrix formed band
of Gypsies in sixty nine for a New Year's Eve show.
He disbanded the Jimmy Hendricks Experience in June, so six
months later he you know, got together with a group
and played a New Year's Eve show with banded Gypsies.
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In nineteen sixty six, The Monkeys began a seven week
run at the top of the charts with I'm a
Believer This week's quiz Buzz for all the Marbles, who wrote,
which I've Lost? I said that deliberately hoping he would
take the bait for All the Marbles Buzz who wrote
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I'm a Believer. I'd like to see your hands while
you're doing this. I want to make sure you're not
on your phone ten fingers. I want to make sure
that you're not on Claude dot Ai.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I am not here are my hands? Yes, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Stephen Stills, no, Sir Neil Young, Neil Diamond, rather Neil Diamond.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Neil Diamond his song, I'm a believer? Right, where do
I win? What didn't? I? Wait?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
No, you won nothing? You got it the merit on
the list of the merits. Yeah, to add to it,
Yeah joined the club. Exactly a few band premieres happened
on New Year's Eve over the years. In sixty one,
the Beats Boys made their live debut. They played at
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the Long Beach Civic Auditorium in Long Beach. The Kinks
and sixty three made their debut at the Lotus House
Restaurant in London, and in nineteen seventy three with Bond
Scott ac DC made their debut appearing at the Checkers
Bar in Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
She's the go back to that the Lotus What the
Lotus What.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's called the Lotus House restaurant.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Sounds like a Chinese joint.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I was going to say it might be karaoke and
other there was no karaoke back then, but you know,
might be some egg rolls in karaoke under you know,
ordinary circumstances. There.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I could see the Davies brothers throwing egg rolls at
each other.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
God, those guys they were You'd like to have fields
of McCoy's yep, they were so anyway, Kinks Beats Boys
in ACDC on this date all made their debuts. In
nineteen eighty four, Rick Allen get into that car wreck
that caused him to lose his arm. He lost his
left arm and he continued, I think much took all
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of our surprise to continue to play dramas. They built
him a rig and he basically used his feet to
do what his left arm couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's pretty incredible really when you think about it. And
he's been such an advocate of you know, trying to
help wounded warriors, the Raven Drum Foundation that he and
his wife Lauren Monroe have formed. So he continues to
from that tragedy there, you know, pay it forward.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
He he's always smiling, right, He's a guy that has
embraced you know what happened to him. I in two
thousand and two, I did a little bit of work
with my friend Billy Bush where I did some camera
work for Access Hollywood and I had access to def
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Leppard and I spent a lot of time with Rick Allen.
I actually got to sit at his kit and I
got to film him play, and I got to watch
his feet, you know, work and play the drums and
sitting at his kit was really kind of cool. It's cool,
and he encouraged me to, you know, to just play
try it. This is what I'm you know, this is
what I'm doing. Very friendly and you know, it's done
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a lot. Like you said, he's done a lot of work,
you know, with vets and supports the community of amputees. Yep. Right.
In nineteen ninety six, Paul McCartney became Sir Paul McCartney.
He found himself on that the list, the Queen's New
Years on Our List and now he is Sir Paul
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McCartney for the last thirty years. Pretty good, pretty monumental
event for think if you could get it. Yeah, And
this one we're going to kind of cover two things here.
The first is, of course it's New Year's Eve, and
you can't think about New Year's without thinking about Dick Clark.
The tradition of the ball drop happened in nineteen oh seven.
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But you know Dick Clark really, you know, we grew
up watching him, right I certainly you know, in the
seventies it was a big deal for me to you know,
be able to stay up till midnight and watch him
at Times Square. And it is.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Really cool to look at in general of American bandstand
things on YouTube. It's it's a it's such it's such
a funny looking format. When you watch it these days,
you see, you know, you'll see a great performance from
you know, a superstar, and then for the balance of
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the show, you see you know, the I don't know
if they were actors or some actors and some real people,
but you see them up there doing dancing. It's a
really funny format. But there's some great you know, there's
history performances there.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh my god. Yeah, that show ran for thirty two years,
went from nineteen fifty seven to nineteen eighty nine. Yeah,
hosted that show. This was probably one of the most
influential music shows on television.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And I do give him, on one hand, a lot
of credit for, you know, after his stroke, how he
would continue to host. On one hand, but on the
other hand, it was sad too. It was a little
it became very hard to watch, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, the last year or two that he did it
was really like, oh, I don't know that I can
watch this right right, And and you know, when you
think about it. He was you know, I don't know
what the actual nickname was, but he was like, you know,
America's teenager, right. He just he was the guy that
just didn't you know. He was you know Rob Lowe
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or Bob Costas, you know what I mean that with
that young kind of look of his.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And he maintained it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He literally maintained it till he didn't right until until
the end where it just it looked rough.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He was a good businessman.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I'll tell you that. He was a cutthroat guy. The
the and I never met him, but the talk about
him was that he was really a cutthroat guy. He
was a medium mogul on his own. I think he's
you know, responsible in a lot of ways for you know,
Ryan Seacrest's success. Yeah, he you know, backed Ryan created
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a whole bunch of different game shows and music specials.
He shaped the delivery system for how we got music
with Bandstand. Anybody that was anyone went through that show
during that period of time, especially you know, through the
middle of the eighties or the early eighties at a minimum,
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you know, from fifty seven to call it fifty seven
to eighty eighty five, probably anyone that was anyone went
on American Bandstand.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Was the cutthroat aspect of it, though partially what we
see late night television how it became cutthroat, where you know,
filling the blank. Host needed to have the big guest
and no one else could have Adam. So was it
over guests on the show the cutthroat aspect, I'm not
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really sure. Or was it just in contract negotiations with
people or all the above.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I think probably a little bit of all of the above.
I think there was this side to Dick Clark that
we never saw. You know, we're used to seeing friendly,
affable Dick Clark, but when you got him at his
desk or you were in his office allegedly was he
was tough. He was no bs. He knew what he had,
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he knew the power of his brand, and he used
it and any rate. He did host the New Year's
Rock and Eve Show starting in nineteen seventy two. I'm
not sure what year he did his last one, but
you know the last couple were rough. January first we
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go to we're now in talking, you know, twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Round the next year, where's Andy Cohen? Oh? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Andy? And Anderson, Andy and Anderson, The Beatles' Magical Mystery
Tour topped the U West charts in sixty eight. In
sixty four, Top of the Pops premiered. That was really
the kind of the British version of the United Kates
version of Bandstand. Right, several years after Bandstand seven, I
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think seven years after Bandstand is when Top of the
Pops premiered, and in the United Kingdom, anyone that was
anyone was on that show. Stones, Bowie Kinks, you know,
We're even you know, running to you know, into the
eighties or nineties, Nirvana, right, a lot of people. That
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show ran until two thousand and six. That was a
that was a big deal over there, and I think
you know they really they kind of copied what the
great Dick Clark did with with Bandstand. For good reason.
Nineteen fifty three, Hank Williams passed away. He was only
twenty nine. He realized how young you realize that he's
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twenty nine?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Hard living?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, yeah, A bunch of great songs, Hey good looking.
One of his songs, You're Cheating Heart, I'm so lonesome,
I could cry. I just all the you know, the
country cliches yep. Right, they say heart failure, so I'm
sure it just it stopped.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Nineteen eighty nine, a new grunge band from Seattle signed
a one year deal. They recorded their first album, which
was called Bleach for some of the Marbles. Who is
that band?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Wow? I mean I would say it's Nirvana, wouldn't I
that's correct. Havana's first album was Bleach. It was Nirvana.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I was starting to panics for a second, breaking into
a cold sweat.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You got some of the curten James Brown, Here, you've
got some of the marbles back bus, Okay. Nineteen seventy seven,
The Clash opened the Roxy Club in London. They headlined
the opening night there and this would really kick off
what was their first ever punk review in the United Kingdom.
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I never we've talked about this. I never get into
the class you were, you know, a class fan, right? Yeah?
Oh yeah? I liked him, Yeah, I appreciate him. I
just never you know, I didn't buy the I didn't
have the albums. I mean, I think I'm you know,
maybe because I was around the radio stations, I would
get them, but I don't think at the time it
was anything I would I would buy.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I like that lost in the supermarket. That was that
deep deep track. I don't know from that song lost
classic or deep track or whatever we'll call it.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
In nineteen sixty seven, The Doors made their TV debut
on a show called Shebang. You know from Shebang, I
don't know much.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
From Shebang, they lip synced break on through. Oh in
shocking that they would, geez.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah they did. I'm sure that. Like The Stones and Who,
they probably pushed back on the concept of lip syncing.
All right, let us play it. Johnny Cash in nineteen
fifty nine played a free concert at San Quentin. It
was a legendary event. He played with Merle Haggard at
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that event, and then ten years later he went back
for another huge concert and they made an album of
that show, Johnny Cash Live at San Quentin. That was
one of the one of the death row prisons.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I went by there not long ago, I think two
or three years ago, and as I was driving by,
I was with my mom, who lives up there, and
I said, oh shit, there's San Quentin, and you know,
I wanted to pull over and you know, and she said, Harry,
don't say that word. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And boy, if you haven't seen Tricky Dick and the
Man in Black documentary, totally unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I know, you know what that's and it's funny.
I do have a list in my notes on my
phone that's that's been on there for quite some time.
Probably time I checked that, checked the box off on
that one.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know, he recommended that to me, was his jelly roll.
Oh no kidding, Yeah, Oh, he just got pardoned.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I saw as we see here to record this where
we're a little bit ahead of the game as we recorded.
But just this this week he was pardoned. A moving
event for him. He was a guest on an early
guest on taking out early for him, on taking a walk.
He was great.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, he's always welcome back, but for some reason, I
don't think he'll be back. Well yeah, you know, he's
probably reached that point so he's yeah, he can't go
anywhere and do his life has changed. You know, what
was your takeaway or or take away from your time
with him. I remember listening to that and I didn't
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know anything about him, and I remember you talking about
him prior to the interview, kind of encouraging me to
go and listen and pay attention to be aware of
this guy. And then I heard it and started to
listen to the music.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I was just blown away.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, I mean then he.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Was on the rise, and he certainly, you know, was
generous with time. I would record it virtually and then
I think see him in person at an event and
talk to him like a.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Week or two after that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So he's very, very easy to talk to, very like
I said, generous with the time. I was sort of
looking at it like a like a stock pick, and
I was like, this guy, I don't know, there's something
going to be happening there. So I've been wrong about
those sort of things with artists many times, but I
was right with that one.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And there's no telling, you know, what happens with these
guys that we see that are talented, that you'll get
on as a as a guest, whether they'll hit it
or not. You know, it's the great question, you know
everyone has. Do we have what it takes?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, you just don't know. You know, where's the luck?
You know, where does the airplay go into it? And
what tour do they get on that further helps him
break out. It's there's no rhyme or reason, but it's
kind of fun to take a shot and pick somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You know. The interview is great, especially to go back
now for those of you that are listening and are
fans of Jelly Role, you know, go back, you know,
wherever you listen to podcasts and look for the Jelly
Roll interview that Buzz did. It's he's so friendly, he's
so affable, he's so willing to just to just talk.
He was great with you, and he.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Was on Music Saved Me Too with Linda Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
On January second, the Beatles convene for their twelfth, their
final album, to start recording Let It Be, and it
was later documented. There's you know video we had seen
over the years, but it was in Get Back, which
I believe was on Hulu, was where they showed a
majority of those sessions. Yep. And that's really neat to
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watch if you're a Beatles fan. Nineteen sixty nine, a
shipment of John and Yoko's album Two Virgins was seized
in New Jersey. You know why it was seized The
nudity there, that's correct, part of graph full full full
on frontal nudity that none of us needed to see
and none of us can unsee it was.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It was something I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, yeah, it was not It was not good. In
nineteen seventy nine, Sid Vicious went on trial accused of
killing his girlfriend Nancy. You hear about Sid and Nancy?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
He ended up getting out on bail, and then a
month later he suffered an overdose. He never stood trial
for Nancy's death. Wow, yeah, crazy story for poor Sid.
From The Sex Pistols nineteen ninety four. I've got kind
of a a brush with this. We both have a
brush with this. The meat Loaf album Bat Out of
(28:54):
Hell two Back Into Hell came out, began a four
week run in the United Kingdom, and he would go
on to tour for you know, a year and a
half or something after that. When I started to work
for you at w ZLX, meat Loaf came and visited
us and spent some time with Chuck Nolan one afternoon.
(29:16):
You know, one of one of the jobs I enjoyed
about my job was that when when someone came to town
and was coming to the radio station, I got to
take the elevator down and go meet them, meet them
at their car, meet them wherever they were coming. From
and I got to spend a few minutes with meat
Loaf and bring them up to Chuck.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
He was a good dude.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
We played softball together back in the I ninety five
Connecticut radio station days, and it's a pretty good softball player.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And he was. He was a nice, nice guy.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, for all the marbles, master of music, Mayhem. What's
Meatloaf's real name?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Really? Come on? What do I look like?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I look like a Marvin to you? You Marvin a day? Okay? Good?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Who are you talking to with these monstucles? Come on, man,
come on, man.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
What I'll never forget about meat Loaf is when he
was getting ready for the Chuck Nolan interview, Chuck played
I think, Chuck played, I'd do anything for love, but
I won't do that, and Meet Loaf was sitting instead
of talking to Chuck. He was sitting with his headphones
on and his hands on the headphones, and he was
lip syncing and singing along with the song and his
headphones like he hadn't heard it enough. That's crazy. Yeah,
(30:34):
I'll never forget that. But Meet Loaf at ZLX with
our pal Chuck Nolan got an episode with Chuck Nolan,
it's out there.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh yes, we had a blast at Emmanual College. It
was fantastic in front of a bunch of students.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
For those of you Boston folks and non Boston folks
that want to hear someone that's just a great, entertaining,
legendary Boston job. Chuck Nolan is on taking a walk.
The college event was great. I know you look forward
to it. When I talked a bunch of a bunch
about it, I've known Chuck for a long time myself.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't think Chuck will ever speak to me again
since that, but you know, I gave it my best.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm sure, I'm sure it was fine. You know, this
is an interesting thing. This has gotten nothing to do
with music. But in nineteen sixty one, JFK announced the
Moon mission. You know, by the time all of this
happened and the moon landing happened, you know, there's still
people out there, you know, the I don't want to
(31:39):
insult anyone, but the tenfoil hat, you know, conspiracy folks
that think this just it never happened, right. They point
to all these things that the flag wasn't moving and
there are just things that don't make sense. It was done,
you know, in a studio somewhere. The shadows don't look right.
(32:00):
Whatever the argument is those I think those things have
all been debunked to death. Uh, you know, the government lies.
The media is part of it, you know, and and
and right.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's fascinating thinking how we live in that world now,
But we lived in that world then. It wasn't as
loud of a outcried back then, but it existed for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know, did you have feelings when when that happened
that maybe it wasn't real? Were there? What were the rumblings? Like? Never?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
No, I totally believed it to be real and did
not at all. I think twice about it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I just you know, I hear it now and I think, boy,
this is like the flat earth folks. Yep, Like it's
just you know, I guess you're free to believe whatever
we want to believe. But yeah, you know where there's
irrefutable proof.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, if you want to believe that, don't believe that's
free to believe it.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
January third, Bob Dylan recorded like a Rolling Stone. That's
one of those songs I would bet you could do
it too, But it's one of those songs that before
the band kicks in with that first drum beat, when
that song starts, I know exactly what it is. Oh yeah, right, yeah.
That is.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Just every aspect about that song, the session players, Bob,
the lyrics, it just I still love it so much
to this day.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I watched the biopic with Timothy Shallamy with a bunch
of guys that were it are, you know, ten fifteen
years younger than I am that I smoked some cigars
with and when that's and they're not Dylan songs, but
they all wanted to watch the movie, and when that
song came on at the beginning of the movie, everyone
was tapping there.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You don't have to be a Dylan.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Fan to appreciate that. That song like a rolling Stone
jendary song from nineteen sixty five. The song is going
to be sixty one years old this year. Crazy to
think about that.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I got to point out a Bob Dylan thing that
I just discovered and that I know the audience will
love it and you'll love it so YouTube something called
Experiment n Sam E N Sam. The name of the
director is Anders Helgsen, and so it's a finished director
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and basically Dylan plays a concert just for the director.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Really, yes, huh. It is the strangest thing.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Bob seems to enjoy it, actually smiles at the end,
not like a rehearsal type show, like a real show.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
We I haven't seen the full.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know, it's not available to my knowledge, but fourteen
minutes is fascinating to watch. It was done as some
sort of social experiment. They pitched Bob on it through
his manager and Bob was like, yeah, I like it.
No one knows if Bob got paid a pile of
money for it or not. I think there was like
(35:17):
a finished gaming company that possibly was involved with this thing.
But the concert took place in Philadelphia. Bob happened to
have been doing a run of shows in Philadelphia. And
it's absolutely just bizarre, fascinating and if you're a Dylan fan,
I think you'll love it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'm wondering what year was this done? Oh, there it is, Yeah,
this was just three years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, I didn't know anything about it till and the way,
I'll give credit to the person who revealed it or
let the world know. He's got a really cool newsletter.
A guy named Ray paget Pa d G. E. T.
T had him on a long time ago. He's like
a Dylan authority and he's written a couple of blogs
about it. One call how the Bob Dylan concert for
(36:05):
one person came to be and he gives them behind
the scenes there with the director and everything.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
It's a trip.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Very interesting. I'm just looking. I'm gonna go down this.
I'm gonna keep that YouTube page open and as a
bunch of stuff on it on YouTube. That's great. Yep, good,
good tip on that buzz. Nineteen eighty seven, Aretha Franklin
was the first woman to be inducted into the Rock
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Queenis Soul?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Oh the best? Yep, this is an interesting fact. In
twenty twenty four, on this date, it was announced that
the Beatles had the biggest selling vinyl single of twenty
twenty three with Now and Then. That was the song
they had put out song that John recorded in seventy seven,
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and then Ringo and Paul added tracks to it. They
finished it off and there was something left over for
vocals from George and for guitar overdubs. It was part
of I think it was part of that series of
albums from nineteen ninety five ninety six, that collection that
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they released. It was a leftover song that they had,
so there was stuff that was there from George available
to them, and it was really the last New Beatles
song that they said that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
We've talked about those releases over the years, how we
feel about it. For me, that's that one was a
prime indicator that, Okay, I'm all for finding unearthed rarities
and that type of stuff. That's different just trying to
bring a session together in twenty twenty four eh coming.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Into the work. In twenty fourteen, Phil every passed away
lung disease. He and his brother recorded some legendary tracks.
You know. Brian Wilson gives them credit for being an inspiration.
Wake Up Little Susie and All I Have to Do
Is Dream. Those were the two big ones that I
can remember. But they were influential on a lot of
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music in the sixties.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And Warren Zevon was part of that whole. That's right,
that band, that's right, it's a musical director.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I think you want to talk about a stunningly wonderful
disposition on a human being. Warren Zevon is like, you know,
the antithesis of that is what he was.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
He did have a heart and soul when he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
He did. And you know the people that like David
Letterman is a huge Zevon fan. Yeah right, I mean
it was just a huge Zevon fan, and we were
both Zvon. I'm a Zvon fan. But I think you know,
it's a different thing that happens when when you have
a little bit in Neither of us had a relationship.
I just I spent the day with him when we
were doing a show. Yeah, it seemed like a year.
(38:56):
I lived a lifetime in five or six hours with him.
And he was very interesting at the time. This was
nineteen ninety five or so, and he was juicing at
that point in time, which no one really was. So
we had to run out to a market and get him,
you know, organic carrots and celery and beats and find
a blender. There was some stuff that was like it
(39:17):
wasn't on the rider, and then you know, a carton
of Paul Malls, like he and har He and Harvey
Warfield are the only two people I knew they ever smoked.
Paul Malls. You Boston folks don't know that name, but
he drove me crazy all day, and I.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Will remember the when he went up there to play
at the Hatshell. I don't know if you were part
of this, but I remember the promotional team was part
of this, where they stood in birdseye view in the
front row so Warren could see, and they all were
(39:55):
chewing on carrots to kind of to kind of rub
it back to him.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
That's very funny. I wonder if Dan Mavers was behind that.
You can let him know he gets a shout out.
In nineteen seventy six, Hurricane by Bob Dylan peaked at
number thirty three. A lot of discourse around the character
in this song, Ruben Hurricane Carter, who was accused of
killing a man, and this was, you know, a man
(40:25):
that was wrongly accused by police. This was, you know,
a racially motivated setup for Hurricane Carter and just an
awful event. Bob Dylan made a you know, a great song.
As a matter of fact, I was listening to Hurricane
before we started this today. Just a great song.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, kind of an odd song. It was kind of
a hit really, so certainly a rock radio hit.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
And it was a long song. It's like an eight
minute song. Oh yeah, right, kind of, I guess you know. Anyway,
great song, one of my favorites. Yeah, from Bob Dylan
about Ruben Hurricane Carter and he was quite a quite
a fighter. You know. The line in the song is,
you know Ruben said he could take a man out
(41:13):
with just one punch. Yeah, a big, strong, heavy, hard
hitting dude, Hurricane Carter and sixty seven. After getting his
draft notice, Carl Wilson refused to be sworn in, declaring
himself a conscientious subjector remember the Beach Boys, Carl Wilson.
This is big news is sixty seven and a couple
(41:34):
of guys that share January third is a birthday John
Paul Jones and Stephen Stills and George Martin. As a
matter of fact, old January third, January fourth. This is
funny because it's the This is really a slow music week.
You know when we did it last year, there wasn't
really a lot going on. I went really deep for
(41:55):
these couple of weeks around Christmas and New Year's and
there's just a wealth of information that's out there. A
couple little ones here. As we wrap it up in
nineteen sixty seven, on January fourth, the Doors released their
debut album, and in twenty fifteen, thirty three years after
the album was released, Thriller became the first album to
(42:18):
sell thirty million copies in the US.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Fifteen years after.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
How about that, Crazy, we talked about this the number
two best selling album in the US of all time,
behind Thriller.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
You could know this, You should know this.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Eagle's Greatest Hits.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, that's it, Eagle's Greatest Hits Volume One. See, I'm
I'm a little more with it than you might think.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know, I rarely use these facts in social settings, right,
But I was with a group of guys last week
here in Vegas and someone was talking about the Eagles,
and they said, well, the Eagles have the best selling
album in the US of all time. It's their Greatest
Hits Volume One. I said, oh, contrare. And they're still
playing at the Sphere.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
They are playing at the Sphere still.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, crazy, And I would not be surprised. I would
not be surprised that once the Sphere ends, that you
will still be seeing them at a venue near you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
You know, I don't know why they wouldn't continue the Sphere.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
No, I don't think the Sphere will at least for
the time being, will continue. Oh okay, but I do
think they will have other shows in them. I need
to just bite the bullet and buy a ticket unless
you can get to Irving for me or your friend.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Don you guys take a walk at Walden. That might
be harder on both fronts than you think. Yeah, but
you know, you gotta believe.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
They're probably making two fifty a piece a night, probably
make a half a million bucks for the weekend, for
two nights worth of work.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
It's a good life.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
It's an amazing venue. We have talked about this that
I'm down the street. I'm twelve miles from the sphere
and I hadn't been there, and I just went and
saw Zach Brown and I was in awe of that place.
I mean, I just from the second I walked in,
it was like it was like nothing I'd ever seen.
(44:24):
You know, when you walk in and you look up
at the what they have going on before, which is
maybe the sky and the sun. It's just you know,
you're looking at what you think could be outside, and
it goes all the way to the very back of
the arena, behind the back seats, and then the show
starts and the music's you don't know where the music's
coming from, it's coming from the screen. And the way
(44:44):
things are animated, it's just oh in the seats vibrate.
It's like a ride at Universal.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, It's unlike anything you'll ever see. Although I do
think the experiences like that, various elements of it are
going to be, if not already integrated into concert experiences.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
You know, maybe not.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
It's not the full package of the Sphere, but I
think there's lessons learned for the business of concerts from
the Sphere, you know, even though I don't know if
it's making money that you know, if it's profitable, there
was a period of time where it was not a
profitable venue.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I can tell you this that the the Vegas Room
Mill is that there have been several general managers in
and out of the Sphere since it opened. You know,
I'm not sure what the what the story is there,
But at any rate, if you get the chance to
see something at the Sphere, uh, And I probably am
just going to suck it up in Mighty Eagles tickets
and go see that because I love them, and you know,
(45:48):
it's just such an une was such an UNBELI and
I don't even I'm not a fan of Zach Brown
and I and I just loved every.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Second of it.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, that's cool, you know, one of those experiences. This
is an interesting date in nineteen seventy nine. I don't
think I followed this or was aware of it. There's
a guy named George Nicopolis who was the doctor of
Elvis Presley, who stood trial in nineteen seventy nine. He
was charged with indiscriminately providing Elvis something in the neighborhood
(46:21):
of twelve thousand pills uppers, downers and painkillers in I
want to say, the twenty months leading up to his death.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's a little eerily like Michael Jackson, Well, the Michael Jackson,
But who's the other one, Matthew Perry, right.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Oh yeah, with the ketamine.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's a little little eerily like that too.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
You know. Elvis was a guy whould get whatever he wanted.
It was a matter if it wasn't going to be
this doctor, it was going to be someone else. Someone
else who's going to say no to Elvis? That's right, right,
And no one counts on anyone dying. I mean, that
was an excessive amount of pills. You know, I'm not
great with I was told to be no math today.
But I don't know what twelve thousand divided by twenty is.
(47:07):
But Elvis ate a lot of pills, right, not good anyway,
he was, So he was acquitted, and then they charged
him again in nineteen eighty, and then in nineteen ninety
two he finally lost his license. It was think about it.
Elvis died in seventy seven. It took the doctor until
(47:27):
nineteen ninety five to lose his license, eighteen years the
guy killed him. Nineteen seventy Your song entered the Billboard
Hot one hundred. The Hollies did a version of it.
I didn't know about this. Three Dog Night actually recorded
a version of it. They had Elton as an opening
act on their tour Wow. Elton was the opener, and
(47:53):
they asked for the song after they heard him play it,
and he said, of course, and they recorded it, and
then after the Trooper Door, and after that all happened,
Three Dog Knight said we're not going to release it
as a single, and they waited for Elton to release it.
I don't even know that Three Dog Knight ever released it.
(48:14):
I just think it's a really cool story that he
gave them the song and then he ended up taking
it back. They said, you know what you do it.
That's a pretty nice little gesture on their behalf. But
nineteen seventy your song was on the Billboard top one
hundred last story of the day. Another Elvis won real quick.
This was the day that Elvis's draft notice was officially
(48:34):
served on him. He ended up going on to serve
in Germany for the thirty second Tank Battalion. There and
the rest, as they say, buzz is history, and that
is this week for music history ending January fourth.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Oh man, you should have brought your white suits or
an Elvis impersonator with you for this episode, because there
was a lot of Elvis there.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I could have done it, and I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
You know. I was an Elvis kid, like you know,
my parents both liked them, so my first records in
the house. You know, this is where we would get
our education, right, think about it, No YouTube, no internet.
Where did you figure out where your music was? You
saw what your parents were listening to. You watched bandstand,
the delivery system to the radio. Right, there were just
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a handful of places at that time where we got
our music. And I my parents were always fans, and
I had five or six Elvis albums when I was eight, nine,
ten years old.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, you were lucky because my parents were fans of
Lawrence Welk.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So let me just leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
I spent plenty of nights working and watching Lawrence Welk.
So my maternal grandfather had a relative, a cousin that
played in the Lawrence Welk band.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Oh my god, let's take go with it. Let's not,
let's not go there. I can get him to take
a walk if you want.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Oh, I'm going to close it out right here, master
music Mayhem. Thank you for this week in music history.
No more Lawrence Welkoever on a look at music history
for a week.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Okay, next week, the bubble Machine will have it right
here in your background.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Thanks for listening to Taking a Walk. We are available
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