November 24, 2025 • 14 mins
Long-term relationships of any kind can be tricky, so Franchesca Ramsey shares her experiences in opening communication even when you can't respond right away.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Baby, I know you can't get enough. So here's a
little more mess because I have more to say. Now
let me tell you something messy, cappy, messy Monday or
whenever you were listening to this bonus episode. I hope
that it's a happy day, a peaceful day, a RESTful day,
(00:21):
or a sexy day, you know, whatever it is. So
last week on the Pot, we had Francesca Ramsey, who
is basically my twin my twin flame, but also like
literally we look alike. So we're gonna do that sibling movie.
But here's something that got cut out of the main episode.
So we got hot over talking about the necessity of
difficult conversations and also talking about when things get ruptured,
(00:44):
how do you repair them? And also we talk about
not dating people in the DMS, and Francesca tells us
about a very very intense person that she went out
on a date or two. I was gonna say dated,
but they didn't really date like that. You'll see take
a list, all right, love you.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It like frustrates me because I realize, especially when we
talk about, you know, the male loneliness epidemic, or or
just how many people say like they don't have friends.
I realize so much of that is because you've been
unwilling to have those.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Different difficult conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And they're just a part of every relationship, romantic, platonic, professional, professionally,
Like every relationship, you're going to have a conversation that's like, ooh,
this is tough.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
What I've learned about that and learning about in couples
therapy and regular therapy is that those conversations actually bring
you closer together. That the conflict the rupture, and that's repair.
Roger Er. Yeah, the ruptures are part of life, and
actually the repair is what actually deepens the connection and
makes it more real because now we know our edges,
(01:47):
we know our boundaries because we had up against it,
and now I know how to love you better, talk
to you better, or what hurts you or doesn't hurt you,
because again, assuming best intent, I don't think that you're
coming in here. Some people are assholes, but yes, most
people hopefully that you're reallyhi with, aren't intentionally being like
how can I fuck with exactly, except they might have,
and you can get to be like, hey, this really
hurt or what was your intention behind that? And then
(02:08):
they can clarify and learn Oh, that's that's that's not
what I should be doing.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This is like this is hot sexy. Every date, like
I'd just like great, we look so much every time together.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
People are like, are you I want to see a
sibling movie. I would love buddy comedy, comedy situation.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I love this for us.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I will say on the topic of the rupture and repair,
one thing that I really learned through like exploring polyamory
and one of my books that I recommend is Deathical
Sloot is like planning your arguments, which sounds really weird,
but it's the idea of that, like when you are
upset with somebody instead of just like flying off the handle,
(02:49):
setting aside time and being like, let's talk about this
on Friday and then I can get like two days
to process my feelings and like talk to my therapist
or like write in my journal.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I love a bulleted list.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I make an agenda. I come with agenda.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I love an agenda, especially because like sometimes when you
get into a conversation with someone again, this is all
stuff I learned in therapy, where you're like, you did
this thing blah blah blah, and the person's like when
and you're.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like I don't go away. Yeah, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Remember, but if I can say, you know, last Tuesday,
you said this thing to me, and here is how
I felt about it. And I just want to bring
this up because when you say things like that, whatever
it is, like, really work through my thoughts. Then that way,
it's showing you that I respect you and I respect
our relationship enough that I want this thing repaired. I'm
not just doing a blanket like you always do this
(03:45):
thing and then I can't give you example. And on
the inverse side, I've had times with people where they
say that to me and I say, can you give
me an example? And they're like, aha, so you don't
believe It's like, no, I do believe you. It is yes,
correct a behavior. If you say I always do this
thing and then you can't. I love it that I
don't know that I always And again therapy, don't say always.
(04:07):
Don't say no like definitive statements, because you can't always
do this thing like we just went to the movies. Obviously,
I don't always tell you that you're a dumb bitch.
Like sometimes I say, do.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You want to go the movies? I think it's uh.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I think that planning the arguments sounds crazy because it's
not something we're used to, but it gives you time
to process, and it gives you time to come to
somebody respectfully and to say all the things and to
be like, I want to work through this, like I'm
actually invested in working.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I record voice notes of Oh, I love what I
want to say, because it helps me just get the
emotion now, because like, the first draft is just like writing,
it's it's a shitty first I'm like, I'm cursing, I'm
calling you names and blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You can't take that ship back. That's what I all.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And I don't want you to see the first stripe exactly.
I don't want you to see the first draft.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That you can't take it back. I always in the
beginning of my marriage sometimes you'd be very a lot
of feelings which are understandable, and I'd be like, I
think these are things you have to say to your
friends first, because with me, you can't take it back. Now,
if you're talking about your friends, you want to talk
about working out with me, sure, but you can't give
me the first draft. Yeah, because if you say the
wrong thing, like that could really push us to the
(05:16):
edge and I just won't be able to here it
even if you didn't mean it, do you know what?
And we all have that inside of us, and so
having the time to like calm down, breathe, talking out
with your friends and then be like, Okay, this is
what i want to say to you.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Anyone that I've had a long relationship with, whether it
be my best friend of twenty plus years, my writing
partner of ten years, my mom, anyone that is like
in close community with me, will tell you that if
we have a friction, I always go, can you give
me a minute? Give me a minute, and I promise I.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Will get because you promise I'll come back.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You send the text, and then you're like, why haven't
they responded, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I will always say I saw the text. Yes, I'll
acknowledge that. You now I saw the text.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Just give me a moment and it take me a minute.
I've got a lot of stuff going on right now.
I don't want to respond impulsively. I will I OPTI
will send a voice note.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yes you can hear the tone.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You can hear a tone, I'll say, So let's get
in the relationship. Love, I mean every before change your life.
Shout out to my ex, this is the only positive thing.
You taught me a lot. You taught me a lot, sir,
fool me once, fool me one.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You are a great teacher love, never again.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I will send you a voice note and I'll say,
because it's like that key and ap peel sketch, where
like you get the text and you read it how you.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are feeling, yes, where you're like, why are they yelling
at me? And they're like, they're not yelling at all.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So I'll send a voice note and I always say, hey,
I'm sending you a voice note because this conversation is
really important to me. Things often get misinterpreted over text,
and I don't want that to happen here. I say
it every time, every time, for just that I am
a professional. About to cut I'm wet. I don't. I
(07:02):
will not hook up with people from my dms. I again.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I learned that. I learned that lesson.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm at the bottom of the.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
No DM. No, no, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I like to meet you in person.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'd like to meet you.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I like to meet you in person. I don't and
I also don't like to make the time to meet
you in person. I want to meet you at some
random event that I was already going to be at.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I wanted to be spontaneous. I feel like when
it comes from the DM and like this is no
shade to anybody that has hooked up with someone, it happened,
I feel like there's a power imbalance. You know a
lot about me and I know nothing about you, And
then I can't tell if we have a real connection.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Or if you just want something or you just like
scroll through my Instagram and you're like I love that
song too.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
My apartment also looks like a kids target, like whatever
it is, because my pertmit doesn't target like I. Then
I don't know, and.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm like I can't like trust, you can't settle.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, that's just it's just but like if we run
into each other and you happen to be following me
and we have a great connection in person, I'm more
open to it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Have you ever had.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Somebody that you met and you're vibing and you're chatting
your key keying, and then like after a little bit,
they're like, oh I follow you.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, I definitely had that happen, but actually like a
girl that did that to me. She we had a
great connection, super fun two dates. Second date was kind
of like not great. And then I like looked her
up just like on a whim and I was like, oh,
she's following me. And then I started realizing like, oh,
there were so many moments that I thought we were having,
(08:31):
these genuine moments.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like you like that thing that's crazy, and I was
like right right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And then when I said something to her about it again,
because I did the thing where I was like, this
was really lovely, like you know, I don't know if
we're right matt friendly.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I didn't even say that, oh she asked me.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She was like, well, can I ask you, like why
you don't think we would be a good match.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And I was like okay, like I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And it was I had a few things, yeah, And
she brought these like relationship cards to our second date
and they were these really intense questions like look into
my eyes and tell me something that I should work on.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And I was like, I don't know your last name,
Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It was so weird. So I told her like that
and I was like and also it was weird that
you were following me and you didn't tell me. And
then and it was like, I don't care if you're
following me, but like, for example, I recognized when we
were out to drink and she was like, oh, what
was that? And I was like, oh, I make content online.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
She was like cool, no, no, no, you know. I
tell her. I tell her the reasons and she goes,
you're not that famous.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
She like.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
She was like, I've lived in La my whole life
and I've seen so many famous people and you're not
that big gonna deal.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But you're following me. But you're following.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, that's why.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
What are response response? But she've been following me, but
you know that, but you're not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
She was like, my dad is a grip and he's
met everyone, and I don't care the little followers on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I was like, okay, okay, you asked.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You asked, I'm telling you what it is. I was
happy to leave ms. Mamma got our charts read we
had gone on two.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No no no no no no, got your charts red?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, because she asked for like your birth time or something. Well,
she was like she asked me, like, you know, this
is a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I know about your astrology and three year I told
her and then she brought like the reading that she
paid for of our charts together and was like, I
don't know you Like, this is so weird. It's a flag,
huge red flag. So it's I again like the direct
communication is something that I really value, Yes, but it's
(11:01):
just it's really hard because.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
A lot of people don't know how to do it.
I went to a dinner party and they were like,
you do can't sit together right to work?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And I was like, people will really make a whole
I kind of love it. I also feel like I
don't know before you know a lot of the Western stuff.
I'm like, indigenous tribes believed in the stars and all that.
So I'm like there's something there. Like I'm not gonna
go on Cosmopolitan dot com and like believe whatever, but
I'm like, there's something in here that I'm excites me and.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, and I think that at this stage in my life,
I understand why people like it in the same way
that people cling to religion, and religion can be harmful. Y, sure,
it's all good, Like people need something to believe. Yeah,
and the world feels really scary and overwhelming, and sometimes
the knowledge of like, you know what, there's a moon
I can blame like.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That period in retrograde.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It is always in retrograde.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
She is always I think it's a heat. Oh that's what.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, I'm always like it's a heat because it's always
fucking something up.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It just always, it's like always always. My writing partner
is really big into astrology, and she'll just send me
a text. Will She'll be like, it's the strawberry moon.
This is the time to do.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
There's always a moon.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
There's always a moon.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There was just a lunar clips there's all.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah. I will light a candle and I will say
a prayer.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well whatever, it never floats your boat, you know, when
it when it says something that affirms me, I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm into it when it says something that like. That's
the same with tarot. When I pull a Tarot card
and I like it, it's for me. If I pull
it and I don't like it, oh that was the
juju was off in that. That's not for me.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm just so you know, I'm a taurist sad
rising Pisces Moka. Oh, like you know something. I know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I know that two people I dated were Tauruses, and
I don't did you.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Have a good time? Okay? But I talk it up
to their side all I did.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
When I realized it, I was like, oh, I wonder
if that means something because both of them were tourists.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
See now I want to know you're what are you?
What's your son?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Your sagittary son?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
See we would get alongcause I'm a sage rising and
apparently you present more as your rising.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Than yes, yes, your world sees yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love I.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Folks with Tians. I can eat with Turians. Torreans love
to eat. They love a cozy situation, but also stubborn
as fuck.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I just they are. That was what That was what
I realized.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And with one of the taurus is in particular, when
I brought certain things up to him, he was like, well,
you know, I'm a tourist, and I was like, what, you.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Can't use that thing to say, you can't use that
as an excuse to not grow.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
No, no, you guys, I was born at this time.
I can't This is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, toxic and I love you too, Messy patron hos.
All right, y'all have a good week. I'm gonna see
you on Thursday for a new episode of Selby's Something
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(14:09):
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Speaker 3 (14:21):
I know I did, but I'm gonna say it again.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Baby, I love you. Bye Me
Baby, I know you can't get enough. So here's a
little more mess because I have more to say. Now
let me tell you something messy, cappy, messy Monday or
whenever you were listening to this bonus episode. I hope
that it's a happy day, a peaceful day, a RESTful day,
(00:21):
or a sexy day, you know, whatever it is. So
last week on the Pot, we had Francesca Ramsey, who
is basically my twin my twin flame, but also like
literally we look alike. So we're gonna do that sibling movie.
But here's something that got cut out of the main episode.
So we got hot over talking about the necessity of
difficult conversations and also talking about when things get ruptured,
(00:44):
how do you repair them? And also we talk about
not dating people in the DMS, and Francesca tells us
about a very very intense person that she went out
on a date or two. I was gonna say dated,
but they didn't really date like that. You'll see take
a list, all right, love you.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It like frustrates me because I realize, especially when we
talk about, you know, the male loneliness epidemic, or or
just how many people say like they don't have friends.
I realize so much of that is because you've been
unwilling to have those.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Different difficult conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And they're just a part of every relationship, romantic, platonic, professional, professionally,
Like every relationship, you're going to have a conversation that's like, ooh,
this is tough.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
What I've learned about that and learning about in couples
therapy and regular therapy is that those conversations actually bring
you closer together. That the conflict the rupture, and that's repair.
Roger Er. Yeah, the ruptures are part of life, and
actually the repair is what actually deepens the connection and
makes it more real because now we know our edges,
(01:47):
we know our boundaries because we had up against it,
and now I know how to love you better, talk
to you better, or what hurts you or doesn't hurt you,
because again, assuming best intent, I don't think that you're
coming in here. Some people are assholes, but yes, most
people hopefully that you're reallyhi with, aren't intentionally being like
how can I fuck with exactly, except they might have,
and you can get to be like, hey, this really
hurt or what was your intention behind that? And then
(02:08):
they can clarify and learn Oh, that's that's that's not
what I should be doing.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
This is like this is hot sexy. Every date, like
I'd just like great, we look so much every time together.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
People are like, are you I want to see a
sibling movie. I would love buddy comedy, comedy situation.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I love this for us.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I will say on the topic of the rupture and repair,
one thing that I really learned through like exploring polyamory
and one of my books that I recommend is Deathical
Sloot is like planning your arguments, which sounds really weird,
but it's the idea of that, like when you are
upset with somebody instead of just like flying off the handle,
(02:49):
setting aside time and being like, let's talk about this
on Friday and then I can get like two days
to process my feelings and like talk to my therapist
or like write in my journal.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I love a bulleted list.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I make an agenda. I come with agenda.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I love an agenda, especially because like sometimes when you
get into a conversation with someone again, this is all
stuff I learned in therapy, where you're like, you did
this thing blah blah blah, and the person's like when
and you're.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like I don't go away. Yeah, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Remember, but if I can say, you know, last Tuesday,
you said this thing to me, and here is how
I felt about it. And I just want to bring
this up because when you say things like that, whatever
it is, like, really work through my thoughts. Then that way,
it's showing you that I respect you and I respect
our relationship enough that I want this thing repaired. I'm
not just doing a blanket like you always do this
(03:45):
thing and then I can't give you example. And on
the inverse side, I've had times with people where they
say that to me and I say, can you give
me an example? And they're like, aha, so you don't
believe It's like, no, I do believe you. It is yes,
correct a behavior. If you say I always do this
thing and then you can't. I love it that I
don't know that I always And again therapy, don't say always.
(04:07):
Don't say no like definitive statements, because you can't always
do this thing like we just went to the movies. Obviously,
I don't always tell you that you're a dumb bitch.
Like sometimes I say, do.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You want to go the movies? I think it's uh.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I think that planning the arguments sounds crazy because it's
not something we're used to, but it gives you time
to process, and it gives you time to come to
somebody respectfully and to say all the things and to
be like, I want to work through this, like I'm
actually invested in working.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I record voice notes of Oh, I love what I
want to say, because it helps me just get the
emotion now, because like, the first draft is just like writing,
it's it's a shitty first I'm like, I'm cursing, I'm
calling you names and blah blah blah, and.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You can't take that ship back. That's what I all.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And I don't want you to see the first stripe exactly.
I don't want you to see the first draft.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That you can't take it back. I always in the
beginning of my marriage sometimes you'd be very a lot
of feelings which are understandable, and I'd be like, I
think these are things you have to say to your
friends first, because with me, you can't take it back. Now,
if you're talking about your friends, you want to talk
about working out with me, sure, but you can't give
me the first draft. Yeah, because if you say the
wrong thing, like that could really push us to the
(05:16):
edge and I just won't be able to here it
even if you didn't mean it, do you know what?
And we all have that inside of us, and so
having the time to like calm down, breathe, talking out
with your friends and then be like, Okay, this is
what i want to say to you.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Anyone that I've had a long relationship with, whether it
be my best friend of twenty plus years, my writing
partner of ten years, my mom, anyone that is like
in close community with me, will tell you that if
we have a friction, I always go, can you give
me a minute? Give me a minute, and I promise I.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Will get because you promise I'll come back.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You send the text, and then you're like, why haven't
they responded, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I will always say I saw the text. Yes, I'll
acknowledge that. You now I saw the text.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Just give me a moment and it take me a minute.
I've got a lot of stuff going on right now.
I don't want to respond impulsively. I will I OPTI
will send a voice note.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yes you can hear the tone.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You can hear a tone, I'll say, So let's get
in the relationship. Love, I mean every before change your life.
Shout out to my ex, this is the only positive thing.
You taught me a lot. You taught me a lot, sir,
fool me once, fool me one.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You are a great teacher love, never again.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I will send you a voice note and I'll say,
because it's like that key and ap peel sketch, where
like you get the text and you read it how you.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are feeling, yes, where you're like, why are they yelling
at me? And they're like, they're not yelling at all.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So I'll send a voice note and I always say, hey,
I'm sending you a voice note because this conversation is
really important to me. Things often get misinterpreted over text,
and I don't want that to happen here. I say
it every time, every time, for just that I am
a professional. About to cut I'm wet. I don't. I
(07:02):
will not hook up with people from my dms. I again.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I learned that. I learned that lesson.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm at the bottom of the.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
No DM. No, no, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I like to meet you in person.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'd like to meet you.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I like to meet you in person. I don't and
I also don't like to make the time to meet
you in person. I want to meet you at some
random event that I was already going to be at.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, I wanted to be spontaneous. I feel like when
it comes from the DM and like this is no
shade to anybody that has hooked up with someone, it happened,
I feel like there's a power imbalance. You know a
lot about me and I know nothing about you, And
then I can't tell if we have a real connection.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Or if you just want something or you just like
scroll through my Instagram and you're like I love that
song too.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
My apartment also looks like a kids target, like whatever
it is, because my pertmit doesn't target like I. Then
I don't know, and.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm like I can't like trust, you can't settle.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, that's just it's just but like if we run
into each other and you happen to be following me
and we have a great connection in person, I'm more
open to it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Have you ever had.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Somebody that you met and you're vibing and you're chatting
your key keying, and then like after a little bit,
they're like, oh I follow you.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, I definitely had that happen, but actually like a
girl that did that to me. She we had a
great connection, super fun two dates. Second date was kind
of like not great. And then I like looked her
up just like on a whim and I was like, oh,
she's following me. And then I started realizing like, oh,
there were so many moments that I thought we were having,
(08:31):
these genuine moments.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like you like that thing that's crazy, and I was
like right right.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And then when I said something to her about it again,
because I did the thing where I was like, this
was really lovely, like you know, I don't know if
we're right matt friendly.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I didn't even say that, oh she asked me.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
She was like, well, can I ask you, like why
you don't think we would be a good match.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And I was like okay, like I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And it was I had a few things, yeah, And
she brought these like relationship cards to our second date
and they were these really intense questions like look into
my eyes and tell me something that I should work on.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And I was like, I don't know your last name,
Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It was so weird. So I told her like that
and I was like and also it was weird that
you were following me and you didn't tell me. And
then and it was like, I don't care if you're
following me, but like, for example, I recognized when we
were out to drink and she was like, oh, what
was that? And I was like, oh, I make content online.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
She was like cool, no, no, no, you know. I
tell her. I tell her the reasons and she goes,
you're not that famous.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
She like.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
She was like, I've lived in La my whole life
and I've seen so many famous people and you're not
that big gonna deal.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But you're following me. But you're following.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, that's why.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
What are response response? But she've been following me, but
you know that, but you're not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
She was like, my dad is a grip and he's
met everyone, and I don't care the little followers on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I was like, okay, okay, you asked.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You asked, I'm telling you what it is. I was
happy to leave ms. Mamma got our charts read we
had gone on two.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No no no no no no, got your charts red?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, because she asked for like your birth time or something. Well,
she was like she asked me, like, you know, this
is a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I know about your astrology and three year I told
her and then she brought like the reading that she
paid for of our charts together and was like, I
don't know you Like, this is so weird. It's a flag,
huge red flag. So it's I again like the direct
communication is something that I really value, Yes, but it's
(11:01):
just it's really hard because.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
A lot of people don't know how to do it.
I went to a dinner party and they were like,
you do can't sit together right to work?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And I was like, people will really make a whole
I kind of love it. I also feel like I
don't know before you know a lot of the Western stuff.
I'm like, indigenous tribes believed in the stars and all that.
So I'm like there's something there. Like I'm not gonna
go on Cosmopolitan dot com and like believe whatever, but
I'm like, there's something in here that I'm excites me and.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, and I think that at this stage in my life,
I understand why people like it in the same way
that people cling to religion, and religion can be harmful. Y, sure,
it's all good, Like people need something to believe. Yeah,
and the world feels really scary and overwhelming, and sometimes
the knowledge of like, you know what, there's a moon
I can blame like.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That period in retrograde.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It is always in retrograde.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
She is always I think it's a heat. Oh that's what.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, I'm always like it's a heat because it's always
fucking something up.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It just always, it's like always always. My writing partner
is really big into astrology, and she'll just send me
a text. Will She'll be like, it's the strawberry moon.
This is the time to do.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
There's always a moon.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
There's always a moon.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There was just a lunar clips there's all.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah. I will light a candle and I will say
a prayer.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Well whatever, it never floats your boat, you know, when
it when it says something that affirms me, I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm into it when it says something that like. That's
the same with tarot. When I pull a Tarot card
and I like it, it's for me. If I pull
it and I don't like it, oh that was the
juju was off in that. That's not for me.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm just so you know, I'm a taurist sad
rising Pisces Moka. Oh, like you know something. I know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I know that two people I dated were Tauruses, and
I don't did you.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Have a good time? Okay? But I talk it up
to their side all I did.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
When I realized it, I was like, oh, I wonder
if that means something because both of them were tourists.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
See now I want to know you're what are you?
What's your son?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Your sagittary son?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
See we would get alongcause I'm a sage rising and
apparently you present more as your rising.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Than yes, yes, your world sees yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love I.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Folks with Tians. I can eat with Turians. Torreans love
to eat. They love a cozy situation, but also stubborn
as fuck.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I just they are. That was what That was what
I realized.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And with one of the taurus is in particular, when
I brought certain things up to him, he was like, well,
you know, I'm a tourist, and I was like, what, you.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Can't use that thing to say, you can't use that
as an excuse to not grow.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
No, no, you guys, I was born at this time.
I can't This is what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, toxic and I love you too, Messy patron hos.
All right, y'all have a good week. I'm gonna see
you on Thursday for a new episode of Selby's Something
Messy Don't forget. You can find me on Instagram at
Brandon called Goodman. You can find our podcast tell Me
Something and Messy. You can also join the community on
(14:09):
substack Brandon called Goodman dot substack dot com. Listen to
tell Me Something Messy on the iHeartRadio podcast or anywhere
you get your podcasts. Have I said it already?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I know I did, but I'm gonna say it again.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Baby, I love you. Bye Me
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