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November 17, 2025 12 mins

This hilarious conversation with Jay Jurden didn't make it into the main episode, but it sure made its way into our hearts. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Baby, I know you can't get enough.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
So here's a little more mess because I have more
to say. Now, let me tell you something messy copy
messy Monday or whenever you're listening to this. Okay, So
we're gonna dive right into the bonus content. Last week
you listened to the episode with Jay Jorden. By the way, yes,

(00:24):
ma'am is on Hulu. Please make sure you watch it
and support Jay. But here's some extra content that didn't
make it into the main episode. We are talking about
one of my favorite Disney movies. It's not my favorite,
but one of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hercules Jentlemener Hercules Hero.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, apparently Jay really knows about the mythology. I only
know the Disney movie, but Jay knows the actual mythology.
So we get into that, and we get into a
conversation around bisexuality because Jay is bisexual and so he
has some thoughts about it, which I'm very excited to
share with you today.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
So enjoy liquoric pumpkin spice thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hell, yeah, you like so cool to make.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Fun of the girl who tries It's so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's actually incredibly misogynistic and fem phobia. Whenever people go
pumpkin spice. Who are you making fun of? You're making
fun of the people who like pumpkin spice stuff, mostly women. Okay,
what is pumpkin spice? Nutmeg, allspice, cardamom, cinnamon.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You don't like spices?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're you're you're you think you're being slit because you're
making fun of people who are being basic.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, you're being bland.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Up.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I like pumpkin spice stuff. I like all warm all.
You want to ask some black pepper, ask some cuman.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Will you can go? You can go somewhere because guess what.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Pumpkin spice You know who pumpkin spice cousin is on
his mama side? Shy oh okay, okay, and guess what
you want to hear something even crazy? Tell me you
know who pumplkin spies cousin is on their daddy's side,
sweet potato spic Sason.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
See, I like super to.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
All the stuff in, but I like that cousin better. Okay,
I like the swep potatoes. And you know what, that
family is fun. There's so much fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
They always they had the good game.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, but guess what that's what happens when you go
with your daddy's side of family.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's what I'm saying, the daddy side of family always responsible.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You're right, Okay, you're right. You know how your dad's
had of the family fun, fun, fun.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Got a trauma on that side.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's always okay, we see you, but you gotta understand
the chai have a little fun with sweet potatoes spices.
People who don't like pumpkin spice. I get what you're
trying to say. Well, you're trying to say you don't
like this commercialization of everything and kind of slapping this
imprint on everything. Why do we need a pumpkin spice

(02:49):
flavored dildo? I don't know a pumpkin spice flavored dildo?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Now that have you branded that?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I feel like that would really.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Lesbians in the fall lesions.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
They dole boots made for the fall, work boots water
because square leaves.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
What all right?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Smash your past feet play.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know what, Hey, if I'm going to town and
your feet are up here, yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Why not? Hey? Guess what, I'm gonna take a little
pig of the market. Okay, I'm gonna put one in
my mouth whole. I'm gonna put your feet in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They are that close because I just because and you
know what, have I been burned? Yes, but by the
like a long toenail or smelly. You know, sometimes feet
look pretty and they smell back. And sometimes feet smell great,
but they look horrible. They look so you know, and

(03:55):
once again raptors, you know, amateur paleontologists. Love of a
uci raptor just not in my mouth, clever girl, clever girl,
Jurassic parking.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Toes in my mouth.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Okay, you won the game, by the way, you win
a lollipop and I love Yeah, and it's blow booty.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I like this booty. Yeah, this is Steph Curry. Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Maybe yeah, which one do organics?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
There's some blow pops.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
There's I'm gonna go pomegranate. Pomegran is good.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I like pomegranate.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I look, I'll join you know if you know, if
you take a pomegrant lollipop, you have to stay in
the underworld for half of the year.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean? Okay, so Persephone, Yeah he kidnapped her right well, no,
not Hercules that involved.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
But her but Hades is from the Greek mythology. Yeah,
Hercules is up in that Hercules.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Is up in there, okay, but he also had to
go to some ship.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Are you ready for this? Which one do you want
to hear about? They're both bad? Which one do you
want to hear about? Well, I've seen the movie Hercules, okay,
which is I watched the TV show Kevin Kevin Sobo.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, who you know, we all vote like him gave people.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Let's talk about it about Hercules. Fucking men period. I'm
just saying, you.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Don't have titties like that.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Say Hercules has some man feeding me? Okay, So Persephone,
she was kidnapped. It's a beautiful night. She was kidnapped
by her uncle Hades and dragged down to the underworld,
and she ate pomegranate seeds while she was down there,
so that meant she had to spend six months down there,
six months on earth. Her mother demeanor goddess of the harvest.

(05:46):
That's why we have seasons. So when she's with her daughter,
she's very happy. We get spring, summer whenever her daughter
is fain. Yeah. And it gets progressively worse because at
first she's like, I could still have memories with all
the time.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
We get to November.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, December December anyway. Yeah, so that that's the like
green mythology reason for the seat. That's what I'm worried about,
Eaven this pomegranate pop because I'm gonna have to stay
in the studio. I gotta say at my heart, say
six months of the year, it's nice here.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
They have they have water.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, Okay, I have questions about this, this mythology, okay.
And Hercules, he murdered his wife and his kids.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Disney did not include that in this.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
And that's why he had to do the labors of Hercules.
Harah not his mom. Haarrah is Zeus's wife, Yeah, his
step mama. His mama is a regularly regularly. That's why
he's like half mortal half.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, Zeus, Zeus was stepping out.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Of course, we don't as a man.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Also, yes, Zeus hasn't big as a man. Who met
my half sibling at my dad's funeral. I get it,
I get a Hercules. So what happened is that Harrah
got so Hara want you know. Hercules is the Roman
version of his name. His Greek name is Heracles, which
is like Harah's bane. Basically his name. He is hated

(07:07):
by Harrah so much. That's like his moniker. Oh wow, yeah,
I didn't know that. And so Harah basically drove him
crazy and made him kill his wife and his kids.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And to repent he had to commit that.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
He had to do the twelve labors of Hercules, which
was like the Nemean lion. He had to clean stables,
he had to kill like a boar, and he had
to like take like a He had to get a
girdle from Hippolyta. I think is that the Is that
the scene in the movie with Jenny Deviatos singing the
song No, that's that's the that's the he's yeah ero, yeah, okay.

(07:40):
What my question was, why are their pomegranate seeds in
the underworld?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Because the Greeks were already growing them and they just
wanted to put in their story.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's that's how, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
How Like you'd be like, how are their harps in heaven?
You'd be like, oh, because we have harps. And the
only way we can really contextualize certain things if we go, oh, yeah,
angels have faces when in the Bibles, like angels with
fire and eyeballs, and it's branding.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's okay, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
So as a boisexual, I put so many things in
my mouth it's gonna be hard for to it something. Okay,
Is it a bisexual thing to put things in your mouth?

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, the rest of us don't.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Sexual happens.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
The more options more, the more option cheese factory, you
go all the way. You know some of this was frozen, right,
y'all can't make off The kitchen ain't big enough.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
This cast make all of it, make all of it.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I would like to try it.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
All that menu is really.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
That menu is thick. I likes my My cheesecake factory
routine or ritual is when I go get in LA
when I get my car checked.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's out in Glendale. So I get my car.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Checked and then I take a cab over to cheesecake
factory and I sit there for like two hours and say,
I was just there for six days. How do y'all
get more than two things done in the day in
Los Angeles?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
They don't. That's what's gonna say. It's that's for real.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's an impossibility when things are forty minutes away, and
forty minutes means an hour and fifteen. That's without figuring
out where you're going part everything. Thing's hour and fifteen
to get to and then you have to be there
for another hour. Now we're looking at four hour five
hours of travel.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
The math.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
This hurts me. What Yeah, I had listen. I love y'all.
I'm happy y'all come to the show.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I had to go from I want to say, beach
with Cane to Brea and that took me two hours
with traffic and then forty five minutes on the way back.
In my mind, I don't know how that happened. We
don't got to it. It's a portal's text. Where was I?
I lost time? Girl don't know. We'll never know. You'll

(09:44):
never get the time backed upside down. But I do
like see. I prefer the traffic over the subway because
I like being in I like I like that I
can control the temperature.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I'm of a certain age. I don't want people yep
in my ear right there?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's danger are you kink? Sham? And I don't know
what's gonna happen when I get down there? This upwoy.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I gotta be too alert.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I can't. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
If you don't know what's gonna happen, you.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Mad at me.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You're gonna push, you're selling something.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You about to do a backflip.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I don't like that. I like to be in my car.
But it's okay. So everyone has their kick speaking of
with this is good.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
This is good, right, the workings are really good.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I see why you stay down there.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Some pomegredits will keep you up, keep you oppressed.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, let your uncles kidnap you. If there's one thing
you take away.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
From the episode, let somebody kidnap you. They have pomegran God.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Of the Underworld, kidnap you hadies was kind of sexy?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Can we be honest about it?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh? What I'm gonna let you say that. We're not
gonna be honest about it. The sexiest person to me
and all of hercules the Disney one or it was not.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well, no, the Pallowhollow.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
He was like purple. Yeah, you're right, and he it
was Key David.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know that who voice who voices Apollo. He was
two sexy purple people. Goliath from Gargoyles. Oh we woke
up really, Brandon Goliath Tunic.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Wow you really?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Because Alisa Maza, the police officer, you remember when she
was like I guess I gotta keep checking on this
sexy ass purple man. She lives in New York. She
could have been focusing on other crowds. Yeah, there's a
lot of time, she said, well, how you doing? And
only at night because he's a stolen during the daytime.

(11:39):
That's a sneaky league.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
If you you ain't never seen your man in the daytime, you.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Wrong, You're not wrong. This is an educational show.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Gargo's on Disney also on Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, ma'am, and I Love you too, Messy patron host.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
All Right, y'all, have a good week.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm gonna see you on Thursday for new episode of
tell Me Something Messy.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Don't forget.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You can find me on Instagram at Brandon called Goodman.
You can find our podcast at tell Me Something Messy.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
You can also join the community on substack Brandon called
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Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
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Speaker 1 (12:21):
Have I said it already? I know I did, but
I'm gonna say it again. Baby, I love you. Bye
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