October 1, 2025 • 34 mins
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Shutdown occurred after Congress failed to pass funding past September 30.
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Cruz argues Democrats deliberately blocked a CR to appease their progressive base.
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Senate Dynamics:
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A CR passed the House but failed in the Senate, receiving 55 votes instead of the required 60.
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Three Democrats (Fetterman, Cortez Masto, Angus King) voted with Republicans to keep government open.
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Partisan Framing:
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Democrats are motivated by hatred of Trump and internal party pressures.
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Schumer is depicted as fearing a primary challenge from AOC and pandering to the left wing.
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Policy Disputes:
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Republicans claim Democrats demanded benefits such as free healthcare for undocumented immigrants and removal of work requirements for welfare.
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The conversation suggests these were “unrealistic demands” meant only as political theater.
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Impact of Shutdown:
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Essential services (military, law enforcement, FAA) continue, but workers go unpaid temporarily.
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Nonessential services like national parks and Smithsonian museums shut down.
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Political Messaging:
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Cruz and the host argue this is the “Schumer shutdown,” not a bipartisan failure.
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They highlight Democrat statements from past years criticizing shutdown tactics, suggesting hypocrisy.
- WATCH WH Hakeem Jeffries VIDEO HERE
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Strategic Angle:
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The Trump administration is said to plan permanent layoffs (“reduction in force”) of federal bureaucrats during the shutdown, targeting those seen as left-leaning.
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This is framed as a strategic opportunity to reshape the federal workforce.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't want it to shut down because we have
the greatest period of time ever. I tell you, we
have seventeen trillion dollars being invested. So the last person
that wants to shut down is us. Now, with that
being said, we can do things during the shutdown that
are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them,
like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that
they like, cutting programs that they like.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Good Wednesday morning. It's so nice to have you with
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one big story. It is the government shut down. It
is real. How do we get here? What is the
President saying? And what are the Democrats going to do?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Well? It's all in this morning's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
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Speaker 4 (02:56):
It's forty seven morning update and it starts right now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Story number one.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It is official, twelve oh one am. The United States
government is shut down. The Democrats they did it on purpose.
Apparently it was their plan and the question is for
how long have they been planning on doing this? Center
This is going to be a very interesting show. This
all revolves around the Senate. That is something that maybe
(03:23):
some people don't realize. Everything's come out of the House.
We're now to the Senate side of things, and I
want you to explain what it was like in the
hours leading up to the shutdown. Was there ever a
chance in hell that the government wasn't going to shut down?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
No, that there was never a chance.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
It is just after midnight, so the government is shut
down just for a few minutes. But I think the
government shutdown is going to last at a minimum of days.
It may be weeks, and it may even be longer. Really, yes,
this could extend for a significant period of time. And
understand this is the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump.
(04:07):
So I got to say. We had the vote tonight.
There was no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome. Out of
one hundred senators, all of us knew the outcome. The
vote was fifty five to forty five, So three Democrat
senators voted to keep the government open.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You have, it was a pretty big deal, right, I mean,
did you think those three were going to go?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Where? Did you think it was going to be a
unanimous vote?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean, Fetterman and two others like, that's that is significant.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, Look Fetterman, I was not surprised.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
So Fetterman voted to keep the government open, Cortes Master
voter to keep the government open, and Angus King voted
to keep the government open. That's not shocking to me.
It's fifty five to forty five. Now, why did the
government shut down? Look, the basic operation of government is
the federal government cannot continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds.
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Under the constitution, Congress has the power of the purse,
so Congress appropriates.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The spending of money.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
A typical fiscal year is October first to September thirtieth.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
YEP.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
spend money, expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
of ways you can extend the government funding. One is
(05:34):
an appropriation, and so they're typically in a good year.
They are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind
of major segment of government. For a number of years,
the appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way
that government authorization occurs is through what are called crs.
CR is short for continual resolution. A continued resolution is
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essentially Congress saying, what we are spending now, we can
continue continue the status quo identically for X period of time. Now,
the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR,
to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
So if the Senate had passed it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
All right, Let's be clear, when you say a clean CR,
that means no political.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Shananigans in it.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's literally saying we're taking the twenty five budget year
and we're going to say the exact same amount we
spent in August, we're gonna spend September, October, November until
we get the new budget. There is no port barrel extras,
there's no political sag against from either side.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yes, yes, yes, okay. A clean CR says what we
spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow. That everything just
continues the same, and that's what the House has passed.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Now.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
is in the nature of an appropriations or a CRY,
it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've
got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
as I mentioned, we got fifty five. We got three Democrats,
but we need sixty, which means we need at least
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seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes
to fund the government. Well, we only got three, and.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And I want to pause just for a second to
go back to cr historically. Let's just go back to
Biden's time in office when you guys were in the minority.
If I'm not mistaken, you guys did this more than
a dozen times where you came to go.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And say, hey, we maintained a thirteen time.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
All right, So thirteen different times y'all came together and said,
we're gonna spend exactly what we spent yesterday to keep
the government open so we avoid a government shut down.
And you put the American people ahead of politics, and
that is a bipartisan moment, right.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
They had to have some of your votes.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
So look, every time we came to the end of
government funding, you would have enough Republicans joined with Democrats
to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
several months ago, we had another expiration of government funding.
And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, Okay,
let's keep the government going, a very reasonable and very
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common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
base lost their mind yea, and Chuck Schumer nearly lost
his job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded
several months ago, the left wing rose up against him.
And you want to understand why we have a shutdown,
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It's one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder
and he sees aoc running up behind him, and he
is terrified he's going to lose job. So listen, Schumer
knows this is not going to work. He knows this
is failures.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
So the radical left wing, they hate Trump and they
want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
entire government down because raar, that's what we're watching now.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
By the way, So then hold on, when did this
become the plan was this weeks ago, months ago? Was
this when they had the last year? As I got
the next time it comes up, I have no choice.
I got to shut down the government to flex my muscles.
And also there is a real concern by him that
AOC is going to run against him, primary him in
the Senate. By the way, that is after the next
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president's election cycle.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And that isn't he up two years after? If I'm
not mistaken, So you got five plus years from now.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So and to be clear, predicted on this podcast, the
inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for President campaign
is Chuck Schumer, because he is desperate for AOC not
to primary him. Ye, he's gonna say, Alexandra, you are
such a big deal, you were so important. Really, the
Senate's too small for you. Why do you want to
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bother being in the Senate. You should be in the
White House. Schumer is going to be all in on that,
but he is living with absolute PTSD. He is traumatized.
He sees left wing antifa crazies coming around on every side,
and so from his end, this shutdown is necessary politically. Now,
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what did the Democrats demand? They demanded a lot of things.
You know what the number one demand was.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
By the way, I mean when you think about that
and the polling data and what it says, I don't
understand why that would make your number one thing. Because
it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
our borders, stopping government waste for aut of abuse dogs
was a big part of it. And also making sure
that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants, like no, no, no,
we want to spend one point five trillion if you
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want our votes, and it has to be for health
care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's another thing, and they're like no, no, no, we buy gal.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You better get mind to people that are just straight
up lazy, that aren't that that have the ability to work,
but you got to pay them to stay home.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
A huge pump chunk of this is getting rid of
the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want anyone
to have to work. They wanted them to be able
to sit at home and get government checks. But did
you see the AI video of the White House put out.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Which one they put out a couple different things. Which
one are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I want you? I want I want to play this
for everyone. This is fake so so all the nattering
nabobs this fake news. But it is absolutely hysterical the
White House put out. This is Chuck Schumer and a
Keem Jeffries explaining what this shutdown is all about.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
We have no voters left because of all of our
woke trans bullshit.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
Not even black people want to vote for us anymore.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Even Latinos hate us.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So we need new voters.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
And if we give all these illegal aliens free healthcare,
we might be able to get them on our side
so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English,
so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke
pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while
until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
See, this is when I love AI. This is when
I absolutely love the spear from the President. And if
you can't see this, you need to go look at it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
We put up on.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Social media the videos and Jeffries has got a really
nice Hannibar mustache and a sombrero on.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Look, pause for a second and realize that was released
by the White House. That was released by the President
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I feel a.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Little guilty because we've got some cursewords in there. We
try to avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do
you do when the president has.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Put that out? You pay it.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And I gotta say, the video sits today at lunch.
So every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, all the Republican senators
have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
at the White House, and so Thune was giving us
a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,
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the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
I raised my hand. I question, I said, John was
a king Jeffries wearing the sombrero, and what did he say?
He just like but look and everyone cracked up. But
that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down the
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federal government because they want free health care for every illegal.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Alien in America.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, you want to talk about, like on every issue
that's eighty twenty or even ninety ten, they're on the
twenty or the ten side. The American people do not support.
If you want to have a referendum in this country,
should we give illegals free health care?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Wow? That will be overwhelming. But here's the secret.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
This shutdown is not actually about free health care for illegals.
That's what the Democrats have hung their hat on because
they got to say they want.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Some they gotta say something, right.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
This is all about just we hate Donald Trump, and
it is Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means
the end of this. Okay, there's no universe in which
Chuck Schumer will get President Trump to agree to let's
give free health care to illegals.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, not gonna happen. They know that.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, they're entering.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
There's no universe in which Republicans in Congress are going
to say, hey, that's a great idea, let's give free
health care to every illegal Like that's you might as
well ask for Area fifty one, like to release the
Martians and let them take over the country. That is
as likely to happen as free health care for illegals
from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is not about
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getting what they're demanding. This is about how long do
they want to demonstrate Orange Man bad Yeah and.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So and the radical base is what has put them
in this scenario. Right, I guess do you actually believe
And let's go back to the history of the Senate here.
I don't believe that Chuck Schumer actually wanted to shut
down the government.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No, No, I think he was forced to do it.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
if the government was.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It was self preservation. Yes, he In other words, this
is weird.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Chuck Schumer is being held hostage by the Marxist communists
and socialists in his party, which they did not police
and they allowed to take over their party. Then he's
now holding the American people hostage with a government shutdown,
which brings me the big question. Even when we've had
shutdowns in the past, there has been some agreement center like, hey,
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certain people should deserve to get paid, those that are
in the military, those badges, like the list is is
not that long, but the essential important people that deserve
to get a paycheck. We don't screw with them when
they're protecting to fing this country. Can you guys, at
least was there an agreement to pay them?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Really?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, so walk us through that, because I'm assuming that
came up at lunch.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
So one of the things I did today is I
sent a letter because under the Constitution, members of Congress,
our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
elected to. So I sent a letter, and I've done
this during every shutdown saying while the government is shut down,
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don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
lose my pay when the shutdown is over, I'll get it,
but it's deferred.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
But a lot of people don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
The long which if I think just asinine and I
have family members work in the federal government, and they're like.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
The dumb part about this that I think a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of Americans don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss
a paycheck in your calendar year you just miss a
month and then you get it back data. You get
it back the next time whenever the government does open
back up. And so I know people that are in
the fa for example, they're like, dude, we just plan
our vacations like great trips around shutdowns, as we know,
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we're still getting paid.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
We save.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Not everybody can do that, but like they've almost pre
planned for this bonus vacation and they're gonna get paid back.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure,
number one, government shut down as a misnomer. More than
eighty percent of the government will continue to operate. So
the basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going.
So the military, our activity and military like defending the
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nation against bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching
criminals that keeps going, the border patrol and ice that
keeps going. The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you
get it on an airplane, the air traffic controllers.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
All go to work.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two
weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers coast guardsmen, military,
the federal government. Nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
shuts down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
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employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut
down then remember Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress were
fighting with Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for
a number of weeks. And I remember there was a
headline that said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent
of their employees is essential and seventy percent is not essential.
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I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
benchline all those non essential that's seventy percent.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
They ought to be done.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
But what that means, so what will be shut down?
Starting October one, national parks will be shut down. So
I got to say, if you were planning to take
your family to Yosemite this weekend, yeah, I'm I'm sorry
to say, you're out of luck.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yosemite will be closed. If you were coming to d C.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
To two are our nation's capital, you wanted to go
to the Smithsonian, go to the Air and Space Museum,
it's the Smithsonian will be shut down. If you look
at things like the National Institute of Health, like research
on cancer, much of that will be shut down all across.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
That's non essential.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
When people are going to say that seems insane, why
wouldn't we fix that to make sure when we have
these Shenanigans happen that that's not affected.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
And I think this shutdown will extend. I think it'll
be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
to protect his own rear end and everything else is
secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
we will see an extended shutdown.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So is this polling then?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I mean, how do you decide when you won or
you lost if you're Schumer? Because this is not about
the country hating Schumer. This is only about New York.
I'm protecting a seat from AOC, So in essence, you
don't care how many people hate you in the country.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It's only a New York thing, is that? I mean?
Will they do polling? I mean this is weird?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
and I gotta say the Democrats are losing the messaging battle.
It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown. There was
actually exchange right before we had the vote on the
CR to keep the government open. And this is a
clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is just keep
every keep the lights on, status quo. Schumer stood up
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and was speaking, and all the Senators or most of
us were standing on the Senate floor, and Schumer said, look,
there's been reference to polling, but the polling has been biased.
It's been right wing polling, for example, the New York Times.
And I gotta tell you, I and every other Republican
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we just started cracking up, laughing, and you could see
Schumer he actually turned red. He looked sheepish because he
just said on the Senate floor that the New York
Times was a biased right wing poll.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
And it was a moment where where like Schumer, you
saw Democrats looking at.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Him going, dude, you look like that's weak.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
And that's because the New York Times did a poll
if the Democrats don't get everything they want, should they
shut the government down? And sixty five percent of Americans
said no, don't shut the government down. It was a
small percentage. It was just over twenty percent of Americans
that said yes, shut the government down. So that's who
the Democrats are responding to. But they've got Schumer's message
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is the New York.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Times is a right wing mouthpiece.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
And how dare you tell the American people that we,
the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This is headed
to failure. Everyone knows that. Every Republican knows that, every
Democrat knows that. Is there an outcome where Republicans say, okay, great,
let's fund healthcare free illegals. No, the Democrats will give in.
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Democrats voted to fund the government. What will happen is
the government is shut down. People are gonna get ticked off,
people are gonna want to like use by the way,
things like passport services will be greatly reduced. All sorts
of government now listen. The military keeps going, law enforcement
keep going, Social Security keeps going, Medicare keeps going, Medicaid
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keeps going, an awful lot of government keeps going. But
the lack of government being open will be a serious function.
And at some point we will see seven or eight
Democrats say enough is enough, reopen the government.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
That will happen.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
But let me tell you a huge piece that is
an X factor in this, which is russ vote. Who
is the head of OMB, the Office of Management and
budget works for the White House. He put out a
memo a week ago that said, if there is a
government shutdown, we are going to lay off federal workers.
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We're not going to give them a furlough.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
This is hol on.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
on preemptive. Ye warning you do this, and here's what
we were going to do. And this might be one
of the best moves I've seen politically in a long
time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
watch what happens, because a lot of people are gonna
get loser jobs. And that's going to be on you
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guys for allowing it to happen. Right, So explain all that.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yes, So Russ is a good friend, he's a strong conservative,
he's a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we're
going to react to that. By the White House is
instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a riff,
a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink slips
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to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who are
advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what you
are going to see in the next few days. You're
going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired. You're gonna
see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired. You're gonna
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see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And within a couple
of days we're gonna see Democrat senators. They're going to
be in their lunches screaming at each other because this is,
frankly an excuse for the Trump administration to do what
they wanted to do anyway, which is get rid of
left wing bureaucrats. But they now have an incredible justification,
(25:33):
which is, hey, Congress chose not to fund them, so
instead of giving them a paid vacation, stay home several
weeks and then we'll pay you back pay and come
back to your job. They're gonna even pick slip and
say you're done. You no longer have a job. And
I think that is going to ratchet up the pressure
on Democrats massively.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So how quickly can these firings take place, how massive
could they be today? And how much research has been
done behind the scenes to get rid of a lot
of these woke bureaucrats that that we've been wanting to
get rid of, that the presidents wanted to get rid of,
the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of like
I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil kind
(26:16):
of like Doag did. Let's find the people we want
to get rid of, and this is our chance to
do it. And and by the way, once it's done,
like it's not like he got one from their jobs back,
like it's done.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
you start.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Seeing pink slips.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I think we will see left wing bureaucrats fired today.
I think we'll see them fired tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
a grooms in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
I said, Okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
House directs us to do that, we do that. We're
(27:03):
going to see I think hundreds, if not thousands, of
left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days. I
think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
And by the way, we're not going to fire people
that are critical for the priorities you, you and I
care about. So we're not going to see Border patrol
agents who are securing the border fired. We're not going
(27:24):
to see ICE agents who are deporting gang bangers fired.
We're not going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles,
We're not going to see them fired. We're not going
to see soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines who
are keeping this nation safe, We're not going to see
them fired. We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting
down factories, who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical
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left wing agendas. They're going to be the ones fired,
and ultimately the Democrats are going to cave. The only
question is how long Schumer wants to go through the
charade before he gives in.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Which brings me my final question, that is the media
does seem to be covering this a little bit more
with honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today there
was a viral clip that is the tables have been
turned Democrats are now literally under fire for a clip
that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the same
ones they're accused of using right now. And here's what
(28:26):
it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December of
twenty eighteen, Donald Trump was President Chuck schimern An's posi
in the Oval office.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Listen, we do not want to shut down the government
because you can't you shut it down. Yeah, can me
say something, mister President of North Dakota and the.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Most unfortunate And we came in here in good faith
and we're entering into this kind of a discussion in
the public.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Transparency.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I know, it's high transparency when we're not certipulating to
a set of facts.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I mean, you listen to that one. They're like, we're
in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And then the speaker also put out a very interesting
video montage reminding people the same thing, like, Hey, you
guys think that it's the Democrats Mike Johnson putting this
out And here he is and what he said to
remind the people about Democrats in their own words, it
(29:22):
is not.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
what we want.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
If the government shuts down it will be average Americans
who suffer most. A government shutdown means seniors who rely
on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Families will be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's the service members who will work without a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's the firefighters who will be furlough.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
This shut down.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know who's gonna feel the pain.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
You know who it hurts you?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Everyday people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans, working families,
hungary kids. Y'all.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Democrats are signally they're ready for a fight this time.
Schuma tells the Associated Press, Well.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
Things have changed. It is not normal to shut down
the government when we don't get what we want.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean, I love them using AOC's words. I feel
like the media has changed a little bit. Here your
thoughts on.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
That, well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I didn't know.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
who that was, So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are and I
got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor.
(30:46):
So I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
the reporters were circling and they're talking. Point that they
really wanted to press is they said, Okay, Cruise in
twenty thirteen, in the fight over Obamacare, you Ted Cruz
(31:07):
forced to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are
doing now? And I just started laughing at them, and
I said, look, number one, in twenty thirteen, when I
did a twenty one hour filibuster on the floor, I
was fighting for Americans. I was fighting for American citizens
whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed, and they had skyrocketed because
(31:29):
Obamacare was a train wreck. It was a disaster. It
caused a massive increase in health insurance premiums. It made
the health insurance companies rich, and it made millions of
ordinary Americans unable to afford health insurance. And by the way,
I was also fighting for it at a time when
the House of Representatives that was Republican had voted to
(31:52):
fund the federal government, fund the entirety of the federal government,
but not fund Obamacare, so not fund the law that
was causing damage to American citizens. And I said, here,
what's happening is Chuck Schumer is shutting down the federal
government not to help American citizens who are getting hurt,
but he's shutting down the federal government in order to
(32:13):
help millions of illegal aliens and give them free healthcare.
And he's willing to shut down your federal government to
give free health care to illegals, and that fundamentally there's
a hypocrisy to it. And I also said, you know,
the reporters were like, isn't it the same, And I said, listen,
let me be clear. In twenty thirteen it was Chuck
(32:38):
Schumer who shut the government down. Then I was trying
to fund the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare,
and Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut
it all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
And I told the reporters. We had like fifty reporters
standing outside the Senate floor and I said, look, none
of you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown
(32:59):
on me because you're left wing hacks. Yeah, today all
of you are still left wing hacks. You agree with
the Democrats, but the facts are so overwhelming. It is
Chuck Schumer and the Democrats who are shutting the government
down that even you dishonest liars are reporting. This is
the Schumer shutdown because the House has funded the government
(33:23):
exactly the status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow.
It is the Democrats who said let's shut it down,
and I think at the end of the day they're
going to lose that battle. But this is what you
got to ask yourself is how long do the Democrats
have to perform for their crazy left wing activists before
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they allow the government to reopen.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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I don't want it to shut down because we have
the greatest period of time ever. I tell you, we
have seventeen trillion dollars being invested. So the last person
that wants to shut down is us. Now, with that
being said, we can do things during the shutdown that
are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them,
like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that
they like, cutting programs that they like.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Well? It's all in this morning's episode.
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Speaker 4 (02:56):
It's forty seven morning update and it starts right now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Story number one.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It is official, twelve oh one am. The United States
government is shut down. The Democrats they did it on purpose.
Apparently it was their plan and the question is for
how long have they been planning on doing this? Center
This is going to be a very interesting show. This
all revolves around the Senate. That is something that maybe
(03:23):
some people don't realize. Everything's come out of the House.
We're now to the Senate side of things, and I
want you to explain what it was like in the
hours leading up to the shutdown. Was there ever a
chance in hell that the government wasn't going to shut down?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
No, that there was never a chance.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
It is just after midnight, so the government is shut
down just for a few minutes. But I think the
government shutdown is going to last at a minimum of days.
It may be weeks, and it may even be longer. Really, yes,
this could extend for a significant period of time. And
understand this is the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump.
(04:07):
So I got to say. We had the vote tonight.
There was no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome. Out of
one hundred senators, all of us knew the outcome. The
vote was fifty five to forty five, So three Democrat
senators voted to keep the government open.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You have, it was a pretty big deal, right, I mean,
did you think those three were going to go?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Where? Did you think it was going to be a
unanimous vote?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean, Fetterman and two others like, that's that is significant.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, Look Fetterman, I was not surprised.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
So Fetterman voted to keep the government open, Cortes Master
voter to keep the government open, and Angus King voted
to keep the government open. That's not shocking to me.
It's fifty five to forty five. Now, why did the
government shut down? Look, the basic operation of government is
the federal government cannot continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds.
(04:58):
Under the constitution, Congress has the power of the purse,
so Congress appropriates.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The spending of money.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
A typical fiscal year is October first to September thirtieth.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
YEP.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
spend money, expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
of ways you can extend the government funding. One is
(05:34):
an appropriation, and so they're typically in a good year.
They are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind
of major segment of government. For a number of years,
the appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way
that government authorization occurs is through what are called crs.
CR is short for continual resolution. A continued resolution is
(05:58):
essentially Congress saying, what we are spending now, we can
continue continue the status quo identically for X period of time. Now,
the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR,
to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
So if the Senate had passed it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
All right, Let's be clear, when you say a clean CR,
that means no political.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Shananigans in it.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's literally saying we're taking the twenty five budget year
and we're going to say the exact same amount we
spent in August, we're gonna spend September, October, November until
we get the new budget. There is no port barrel extras,
there's no political sag against from either side.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yes, yes, yes, okay. A clean CR says what we
spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow. That everything just
continues the same, and that's what the House has passed.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Now.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
is in the nature of an appropriations or a CRY,
it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've
got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
as I mentioned, we got fifty five. We got three Democrats,
but we need sixty, which means we need at least
(07:14):
seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes
to fund the government. Well, we only got three, and.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And I want to pause just for a second to
go back to cr historically. Let's just go back to
Biden's time in office when you guys were in the minority.
If I'm not mistaken, you guys did this more than
a dozen times where you came to go.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And say, hey, we maintained a thirteen time.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
All right, So thirteen different times y'all came together and said,
we're gonna spend exactly what we spent yesterday to keep
the government open so we avoid a government shut down.
And you put the American people ahead of politics, and
that is a bipartisan moment, right.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
They had to have some of your votes.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
So look, every time we came to the end of
government funding, you would have enough Republicans joined with Democrats
to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
several months ago, we had another expiration of government funding.
And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, Okay,
let's keep the government going, a very reasonable and very
(08:28):
common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
base lost their mind yea, and Chuck Schumer nearly lost
his job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded
several months ago, the left wing rose up against him.
And you want to understand why we have a shutdown,
(08:50):
It's one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder
and he sees aoc running up behind him, and he
is terrified he's going to lose job. So listen, Schumer
knows this is not going to work. He knows this
is failures.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
So the radical left wing, they hate Trump and they
want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
entire government down because raar, that's what we're watching now.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
By the way, So then hold on, when did this
become the plan was this weeks ago, months ago? Was
this when they had the last year? As I got
the next time it comes up, I have no choice.
I got to shut down the government to flex my muscles.
And also there is a real concern by him that
AOC is going to run against him, primary him in
the Senate. By the way, that is after the next
(09:52):
president's election cycle.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And that isn't he up two years after? If I'm
not mistaken, So you got five plus years from now.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So and to be clear, predicted on this podcast, the
inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for President campaign
is Chuck Schumer, because he is desperate for AOC not
to primary him. Ye, he's gonna say, Alexandra, you are
such a big deal, you were so important. Really, the
Senate's too small for you. Why do you want to
(10:20):
bother being in the Senate. You should be in the
White House. Schumer is going to be all in on that,
but he is living with absolute PTSD. He is traumatized.
He sees left wing antifa crazies coming around on every side,
and so from his end, this shutdown is necessary politically. Now,
(10:43):
what did the Democrats demand? They demanded a lot of things.
You know what the number one demand was.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
By the way, I mean when you think about that
and the polling data and what it says, I don't
understand why that would make your number one thing. Because
it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
our borders, stopping government waste for aut of abuse dogs
was a big part of it. And also making sure
that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants, like no, no, no,
we want to spend one point five trillion if you
(11:15):
want our votes, and it has to be for health
care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's another thing, and they're like no, no, no, we buy gal.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You better get mind to people that are just straight
up lazy, that aren't that that have the ability to work,
but you got to pay them to stay home.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
A huge pump chunk of this is getting rid of
the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want anyone
to have to work. They wanted them to be able
to sit at home and get government checks. But did
you see the AI video of the White House put out.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Which one they put out a couple different things. Which
one are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I want you? I want I want to play this
for everyone. This is fake so so all the nattering
nabobs this fake news. But it is absolutely hysterical the
White House put out. This is Chuck Schumer and a
Keem Jeffries explaining what this shutdown is all about.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
We have no voters left because of all of our
woke trans bullshit.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
Not even black people want to vote for us anymore.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Even Latinos hate us.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So we need new voters.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
And if we give all these illegal aliens free healthcare,
we might be able to get them on our side
so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English,
so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke
pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while
until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
See, this is when I love AI. This is when
I absolutely love the spear from the President. And if
you can't see this, you need to go look at it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
We put up on.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Social media the videos and Jeffries has got a really
nice Hannibar mustache and a sombrero on.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Look, pause for a second and realize that was released
by the White House. That was released by the President
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I feel a.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Little guilty because we've got some cursewords in there. We
try to avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do
you do when the president has.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Put that out? You pay it.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And I gotta say, the video sits today at lunch.
So every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, all the Republican senators
have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
at the White House, and so Thune was giving us
a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,
(13:44):
the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
I raised my hand. I question, I said, John was
a king Jeffries wearing the sombrero, and what did he say?
He just like but look and everyone cracked up. But
that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down the
(14:08):
federal government because they want free health care for every illegal.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Alien in America.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, you want to talk about, like on every issue
that's eighty twenty or even ninety ten, they're on the
twenty or the ten side. The American people do not support.
If you want to have a referendum in this country,
should we give illegals free health care?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Wow? That will be overwhelming. But here's the secret.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
This shutdown is not actually about free health care for illegals.
That's what the Democrats have hung their hat on because
they got to say they want.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Some they gotta say something, right.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
This is all about just we hate Donald Trump, and
it is Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means
the end of this. Okay, there's no universe in which
Chuck Schumer will get President Trump to agree to let's
give free health care to illegals.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, not gonna happen. They know that.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, they're entering.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
There's no universe in which Republicans in Congress are going
to say, hey, that's a great idea, let's give free
health care to every illegal Like that's you might as
well ask for Area fifty one, like to release the
Martians and let them take over the country. That is
as likely to happen as free health care for illegals
from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is not about
(15:30):
getting what they're demanding. This is about how long do
they want to demonstrate Orange Man bad Yeah and.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So and the radical base is what has put them
in this scenario. Right, I guess do you actually believe
And let's go back to the history of the Senate here.
I don't believe that Chuck Schumer actually wanted to shut
down the government.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No, No, I think he was forced to do it.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
if the government was.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It was self preservation. Yes, he In other words, this
is weird.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Chuck Schumer is being held hostage by the Marxist communists
and socialists in his party, which they did not police
and they allowed to take over their party. Then he's
now holding the American people hostage with a government shutdown,
which brings me the big question. Even when we've had
shutdowns in the past, there has been some agreement center like, hey,
(16:27):
certain people should deserve to get paid, those that are
in the military, those badges, like the list is is
not that long, but the essential important people that deserve
to get a paycheck. We don't screw with them when
they're protecting to fing this country. Can you guys, at
least was there an agreement to pay them?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Really?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, so walk us through that, because I'm assuming that
came up at lunch.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
So one of the things I did today is I
sent a letter because under the Constitution, members of Congress,
our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
elected to. So I sent a letter, and I've done
this during every shutdown saying while the government is shut down,
(17:11):
don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
lose my pay when the shutdown is over, I'll get it,
but it's deferred.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
But a lot of people don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
The long which if I think just asinine and I
have family members work in the federal government, and they're like.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
The dumb part about this that I think a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of Americans don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss
a paycheck in your calendar year you just miss a
month and then you get it back data. You get
it back the next time whenever the government does open
back up. And so I know people that are in
the fa for example, they're like, dude, we just plan
our vacations like great trips around shutdowns, as we know,
(18:00):
we're still getting paid.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
We save.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Not everybody can do that, but like they've almost pre
planned for this bonus vacation and they're gonna get paid back.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure,
number one, government shut down as a misnomer. More than
eighty percent of the government will continue to operate. So
the basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going.
So the military, our activity and military like defending the
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nation against bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching
criminals that keeps going, the border patrol and ice that
keeps going. The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you
get it on an airplane, the air traffic controllers.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
All go to work.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two
weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers coast guardsmen, military,
the federal government. Nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
shuts down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
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employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut
down then remember Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress were
fighting with Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for
a number of weeks. And I remember there was a
headline that said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent
of their employees is essential and seventy percent is not essential.
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I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
benchline all those non essential that's seventy percent.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
They ought to be done.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
But what that means, so what will be shut down?
Starting October one, national parks will be shut down. So
I got to say, if you were planning to take
your family to Yosemite this weekend, yeah, I'm I'm sorry
to say, you're out of luck.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yosemite will be closed. If you were coming to d C.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
To two are our nation's capital, you wanted to go
to the Smithsonian, go to the Air and Space Museum,
it's the Smithsonian will be shut down. If you look
at things like the National Institute of Health, like research
on cancer, much of that will be shut down all across.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
That's non essential.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
When people are going to say that seems insane, why
wouldn't we fix that to make sure when we have
these Shenanigans happen that that's not affected.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
And I think this shutdown will extend. I think it'll
be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
to protect his own rear end and everything else is
secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
we will see an extended shutdown.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So is this polling then?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I mean, how do you decide when you won or
you lost if you're Schumer? Because this is not about
the country hating Schumer. This is only about New York.
I'm protecting a seat from AOC, So in essence, you
don't care how many people hate you in the country.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It's only a New York thing, is that? I mean?
Will they do polling? I mean this is weird?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
and I gotta say the Democrats are losing the messaging battle.
It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown. There was
actually exchange right before we had the vote on the
CR to keep the government open. And this is a
clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is just keep
every keep the lights on, status quo. Schumer stood up
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and was speaking, and all the Senators or most of
us were standing on the Senate floor, and Schumer said, look,
there's been reference to polling, but the polling has been biased.
It's been right wing polling, for example, the New York Times.
And I gotta tell you, I and every other Republican
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we just started cracking up, laughing, and you could see
Schumer he actually turned red. He looked sheepish because he
just said on the Senate floor that the New York
Times was a biased right wing poll.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
And it was a moment where where like Schumer, you
saw Democrats looking at.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Him going, dude, you look like that's weak.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
And that's because the New York Times did a poll
if the Democrats don't get everything they want, should they
shut the government down? And sixty five percent of Americans
said no, don't shut the government down. It was a
small percentage. It was just over twenty percent of Americans
that said yes, shut the government down. So that's who
the Democrats are responding to. But they've got Schumer's message
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is the New York.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Times is a right wing mouthpiece.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
And how dare you tell the American people that we,
the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This is headed
to failure. Everyone knows that. Every Republican knows that, every
Democrat knows that. Is there an outcome where Republicans say, okay, great,
let's fund healthcare free illegals. No, the Democrats will give in.
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Democrats voted to fund the government. What will happen is
the government is shut down. People are gonna get ticked off,
people are gonna want to like use by the way,
things like passport services will be greatly reduced. All sorts
of government now listen. The military keeps going, law enforcement
keep going, Social Security keeps going, Medicare keeps going, Medicaid
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keeps going, an awful lot of government keeps going. But
the lack of government being open will be a serious function.
And at some point we will see seven or eight
Democrats say enough is enough, reopen the government.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
That will happen.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
But let me tell you a huge piece that is
an X factor in this, which is russ vote. Who
is the head of OMB, the Office of Management and
budget works for the White House. He put out a
memo a week ago that said, if there is a
government shutdown, we are going to lay off federal workers.
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We're not going to give them a furlough.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
This is hol on.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
on preemptive. Ye warning you do this, and here's what
we were going to do. And this might be one
of the best moves I've seen politically in a long
time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
watch what happens, because a lot of people are gonna
get loser jobs. And that's going to be on you
(24:23):
guys for allowing it to happen. Right, So explain all that.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yes, So Russ is a good friend, he's a strong conservative,
he's a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we're
going to react to that. By the White House is
instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a riff,
a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink slips
(24:50):
to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who are
advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what you
are going to see in the next few days. You're
going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired. You're gonna
see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired. You're gonna
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see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And within a couple
of days we're gonna see Democrat senators. They're going to
be in their lunches screaming at each other because this is,
frankly an excuse for the Trump administration to do what
they wanted to do anyway, which is get rid of
left wing bureaucrats. But they now have an incredible justification,
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which is, hey, Congress chose not to fund them, so
instead of giving them a paid vacation, stay home several
weeks and then we'll pay you back pay and come
back to your job. They're gonna even pick slip and
say you're done. You no longer have a job. And
I think that is going to ratchet up the pressure
on Democrats massively.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So how quickly can these firings take place, how massive
could they be today? And how much research has been
done behind the scenes to get rid of a lot
of these woke bureaucrats that that we've been wanting to
get rid of, that the presidents wanted to get rid of,
the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of like
I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil kind
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of like Doag did. Let's find the people we want
to get rid of, and this is our chance to
do it. And and by the way, once it's done,
like it's not like he got one from their jobs back,
like it's done.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
you start.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Seeing pink slips.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I think we will see left wing bureaucrats fired today.
I think we'll see them fired tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
a grooms in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
I said, Okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
House directs us to do that, we do that. We're
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going to see I think hundreds, if not thousands, of
left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days. I
think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
And by the way, we're not going to fire people
that are critical for the priorities you, you and I
care about. So we're not going to see Border patrol
agents who are securing the border fired. We're not going
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to see ICE agents who are deporting gang bangers fired.
We're not going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles,
We're not going to see them fired. We're not going
to see soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines who
are keeping this nation safe, We're not going to see
them fired. We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting
down factories, who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical
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left wing agendas. They're going to be the ones fired,
and ultimately the Democrats are going to cave. The only
question is how long Schumer wants to go through the
charade before he gives in.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Which brings me my final question, that is the media
does seem to be covering this a little bit more
with honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today there
was a viral clip that is the tables have been
turned Democrats are now literally under fire for a clip
that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the same
ones they're accused of using right now. And here's what
(28:26):
it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December of
twenty eighteen, Donald Trump was President Chuck schimern An's posi
in the Oval office.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
Listen, we do not want to shut down the government
because you can't you shut it down. Yeah, can me
say something, mister President of North Dakota and the.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Most unfortunate And we came in here in good faith
and we're entering into this kind of a discussion in
the public.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Transparency.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I know, it's high transparency when we're not certipulating to
a set of facts.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I mean, you listen to that one. They're like, we're
in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And then the speaker also put out a very interesting
video montage reminding people the same thing, like, Hey, you
guys think that it's the Democrats Mike Johnson putting this
out And here he is and what he said to
remind the people about Democrats in their own words, it
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is not.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
what we want.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
If the government shuts down it will be average Americans
who suffer most. A government shutdown means seniors who rely
on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Families will be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's the service members who will work without a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's the firefighters who will be furlough.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
This shut down.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know who's gonna feel the pain.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
You know who it hurts you?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Everyday people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans, working families,
hungary kids. Y'all.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Democrats are signally they're ready for a fight this time.
Schuma tells the Associated Press, Well.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
Things have changed. It is not normal to shut down
the government when we don't get what we want.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean, I love them using AOC's words. I feel
like the media has changed a little bit. Here your
thoughts on.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
That, well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I didn't know.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
who that was, So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are and I
got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor.
(30:46):
So I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
the reporters were circling and they're talking. Point that they
really wanted to press is they said, Okay, Cruise in
twenty thirteen, in the fight over Obamacare, you Ted Cruz
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forced to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are
doing now? And I just started laughing at them, and
I said, look, number one, in twenty thirteen, when I
did a twenty one hour filibuster on the floor, I
was fighting for Americans. I was fighting for American citizens
whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed, and they had skyrocketed because
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Obamacare was a train wreck. It was a disaster. It
caused a massive increase in health insurance premiums. It made
the health insurance companies rich, and it made millions of
ordinary Americans unable to afford health insurance. And by the way,
I was also fighting for it at a time when
the House of Representatives that was Republican had voted to
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fund the federal government, fund the entirety of the federal government,
but not fund Obamacare, so not fund the law that
was causing damage to American citizens. And I said, here,
what's happening is Chuck Schumer is shutting down the federal
government not to help American citizens who are getting hurt,
but he's shutting down the federal government in order to
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help millions of illegal aliens and give them free healthcare.
And he's willing to shut down your federal government to
give free health care to illegals, and that fundamentally there's
a hypocrisy to it. And I also said, you know,
the reporters were like, isn't it the same, And I said, listen,
let me be clear. In twenty thirteen it was Chuck
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Schumer who shut the government down. Then I was trying
to fund the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare,
and Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut
it all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
And I told the reporters. We had like fifty reporters
standing outside the Senate floor and I said, look, none
of you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown
(32:59):
on me because you're left wing hacks. Yeah, today all
of you are still left wing hacks. You agree with
the Democrats, but the facts are so overwhelming. It is
Chuck Schumer and the Democrats who are shutting the government
down that even you dishonest liars are reporting. This is
the Schumer shutdown because the House has funded the government
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exactly the status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow.
It is the Democrats who said let's shut it down,
and I think at the end of the day they're
going to lose that battle. But this is what you
got to ask yourself is how long do the Democrats
have to perform for their crazy left wing activists before
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they allow the government to reopen.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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