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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good Monday morning, so nice to have you with us
here on Verdict, with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you
and Senator. It was a very big weekend when it
came to news a horrific attack in Colorado, and also
a lot going on with Ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Tragically, the radical anti American anti Israel left keeps getting worse,
keeps getting more violence. We saw two weeks ago to
Israeli supporters, people who worked in the Israeli consulate in Washington,
d C. Murdered on the streets of DC, murdered by
a radical leftist who screamed free Palestine. And then just
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this weekend we saw five people in Colorado who were
engaged in a pro Israel protest speaking up for the hostages,
calling on Hamas to release the hostages, saying enough is enough,
and a deranged lunatic fire bombed them through Molotov cocktails
at them, lit them on fire. It was tragic at
this point, little past.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Midnight Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
What we know right now is five people are reported
to be injured too, with very serious injuries. And this
is sadly the face of the angry anti American left
and the angry anti Israel left. They are violent and
far too often that they are committing acts of enormous
violence and even murder. And this pattern the media apologizes
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for them, whitewashes that what they do covers up for them.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But Verdict is not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We're going to give you the facts. We also have
in Russia and Ukraine. An extraordinary moment, Ukraine strikes back.
Ukraine launched on audacious drone attack on Russia. They took
out more than forty Russian bombers deep inside Russian territory.
It was it was an attack that was meticulously panned out.
(01:56):
It is similar to Israel's attack on Hezbala with the pagers,
and that it took enormous preparation to carry out and
it was remarkably effective. Hopefully this attack will accelerate ending
the war in Ukraine and it may bring Russia to
the bargaining table to say enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, and that may, like you said, be one of
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let's talk about the two narratives coming out of this
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attack in Colorado. There's many that are wanting this to
just be some random attack and you know, kind of
move on. They don't want you to know the facts.
They don't want you to know how the person got
into this country. They don't want you to know who
let him in this country. They don't want you to
know he over state a visa. They don't want you
to know he's a legal immigrant, and they don't want
you to know that he was an anti Israel individual
that was trying to or not trying setting elderly Jewish
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individuals who do this walk every week to remember the
hostages being held by Hamas. They do this every week,
and they and he deliberately was trying to set them
on fire and kill them.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Well, and let's set the stage.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
This is in Boulder, Colorado. It was a weekly event
called Run for Their Lives and it was a weekly
gathering of Jewish community leaders that that that was supporting
the hostages that were taken on October seventh and calling
for their release from from Hamas. So it was a
peaceful protest. But I'll tell you what people knew. People
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knew that at the time of this this protest, there
were going to be Jews there. There were going to
be Jews who supported Israel. And the hate of the
anti Israel that left, the hate of the anti America
anti Israel left is so great that simply knowing that
there were Jews who were present somewhere, sadly in those
radical circles. It has proven to be an invitation to violence.
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And in this instance, the man threw multiple bottles filled
with flammable liquids that hit hit the ground, that exploded
in flames uh and and burned multiple people. Now you
and I are are describing this at just after midnight
Sunday night, and so the event is incredibly recent. So
I want to give a caveat that. Inevitably, when you
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have a bad event, there there is a fog of war.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Some of the facts that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Are being reported today will prove less than accurate. But
on the face of this, it is obviously a terror attack.
It is not complicated to figure out who the targets were.
And yet I got to say, I want you to listen,
and the FBI, to their credits, said right from the beginning,
this is a targeted terror attack because they actually are
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not ostriches with their heads plunged into the sand. I
want you to contrast this with the words of the
Bolder police chief UH, with which, if the topic weren't
so serious, they almost sound like a Saturday night Live skit.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Give a listen. Was an actual protest going on when
this occurred. Were a group of people gathered and for words.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Said that would indicate anything at all to do with
that protests. So what I will tell you on Pearl Street,
it's a walking pedestrian mall downtown here. There was a
lot of people out a very beautiful day. There was
a group of pro Israel people that were there in
a peaceful demonstration. I wouldn't even call it a protest.
I believe that happens frequently down here. They were there
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in that area. We are looking and actively interviewing victims
and witnesses to determine if that group was targeted or others,
and we just don't have those answers yet. Those are
things we helped to be able to provide you later
this evening. FBI is already calling it a targeted terror attick.
Would you also refer to it as a terror attack?
So I've been in contact with our local FBI multiple times.
(07:41):
We are in contact with them here. We are not
calling it a terror attack at this point. Again, it's
way too early to speculate motive. I know there's a
lot out there on social media, but I ask people
just to give us a little bit of patience while
we work through a really complex scene. A lot of
witnesses were here. We've taken them to another location to
debrief them and interview them. As you do that, I
think the picture will become more clear, but it would
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be it would be irresponsible for me to speculate on
motive this early on. We're only a couple hours into
the seams. Can you compre the description about him, because
we know any picture running the media, I haven't seen it,
and obviously I wasn't here when he was arrested. All
I know is it's an adult male. We're working to
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identify that person. We're working to figure out where they're from.
Uh and we're in contact with our federal partners as
well as we figure that out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It is amazing to hear the Boulder Police chief put
it this way and clearly doing it, saying the FBI
is the one that's overreacting, calling this a terrorist tack. Clearly,
I'm not going with those guys over there. Cash, Mattel
and Bongino come out very early on and saying, quote,
it wouldn't be helpful, implying the FBI's like amateur hour
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at this moment.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, Look, this sadly is woke politics. If you have
Jews who are standing and protesting favor of hostages in Israel,
taken in October seventh, a weekly recurring event where everyone knows,
and by the way, this police chief knows, there is
vicious terrorism and anti Semitism directed at Jews, directed at
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supporters of Israel, and they threw molotov cocktails on them.
That this is not subtle. This is not someone tripped
and accidentally hit them. This is not a random draft
drive by shooting of two gangs we're shooting at each
other and a stray bullet hit someone. I mean, this
is multiple molotov cocktails directed at a very specific, concrete
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group of people. And so the FBI is obviously right
in calling it terrorism. I mean this same knucklehead, By
the way, it reminded me of at the tail end
of the Biden administration when you had the deranged radical
Islamic terrorists drive a car into a crowd in New Orleans.
He was flying an ISIS flag, and yet the local
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FBI person there said, well, we don't know that it's terrorism.
You know what if a guy drives a jeep with
an ISIS flag into a crowd and murders people, it's terrorism.
You don't need a deep subtle analysis to tell. And
let me give you another fact that miraculously the corporate
media is omitting. Bill Malujin that the very best reporter
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at Fox he reported tonight quote breaking. Three senior DHS
sources tell Fox News that the Bolder terror suspect is
an Egyptian national in the US illegally as a visa
overstay who entered the US during the Biden administration. I'm
told Mohammed Sabree Soloman arrived at lax on eight twenty seven,
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twenty two on a B one slash B two non
immigrant visa with an authorized stay through two twenty six,
twenty three, but he overstayed and never left.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I'm told on nine.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Two he filed some sort of claim with USCIS, potentially
an asylum claim, and on three twenty nine, twenty three,
USCIS under Biden gave him work authorization, which expired on
three twenty eight, twenty five. Understand, assuming this reporting is right,
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this guy was an illegal immigrant who came from Egypt.
He overstated his visa, which made him illegal, and the
Biden administration allowed him to stay. They allowed someone to
stay who now is charged with and appears to have
committed throwing molotov cocktails at at peaceful Jewish protesters standing
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up for hostages. It's also been reported one of the
victims of this firebombing was a Holocaust survivor. This is
the consequence of Joe Biden, the Democrat's open borders. When
you let terrorists into the country. Shockingly, they emit acts
of terrorism.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
There's also another aspect of this that the media is
refusing to touch, and that is the age of the
people that were targeted by this individual.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
They were elderly. Yeah, they were doing this every week.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They were committed to not forgetting those that are being
held hostage. Right now, you just mentioned one of the
Maholocaust survivor. It's being reported, and yet the media doesn't
want to talk about how barbaric the attack is. That
these are senior citizens seventies and eighties, who were targeted
because they were obviously easier to target because of their age.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Well and listen, in the last two months, we've seen
elderly Jewish protesters firebombed with molotov cocktails. We've seen a
young Jewish couple executed leaving a Jewish museum in DC,
and as we talked about in a prior podcast that
that couple had publicly said they meant at an event
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where I was speaking that they I don't believe I
had met that young couple, but it reduced me to
tears that they came to an event where I was
giving a speech on foreign policy, and that's where the
two of them met and got engaged, and tragically they
were murdered by a radical leftist who hates Israel, who
hates Jews, and hates America, and and and gunned them down,
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and and and also within the last two months, we
had yet another radical who tried to burn down the
home of the governor of Pennsylvania who is Jewish, with
him and his family inside. These are multiple acts of
grotesque violence directed at Jews, directed at Israel, and the
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corporate media will not cover it, and in fact, they
treated it as Oh, isn't this cute When you have
people at Harvard or m I t or Columbia calling
for intifada, Well, the intifada is here. This is intifada.
This is murdering people because they are Jews on the
streets that is into fada. And we saw this last
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week commencement speeches at both Harvard and MIT, people give
radical anti Israel screeds because sadly our universities have welcomed
and nurtured this incredible evil.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, let's talk about the also the response here from
the administration, and you look at just how quickly you
had clarity from those that are in charge. Cash Betel
coming out and looking again at the facts, and the
FBI director just straight up put it out there saying,
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we are aware of and fully investigating a targeted tear
attack in Boulder, Colorado. Our agent and local law enforcement
on the scene already, and we will share updates as
more information becomes available. He was short in his words,
and and but letting it know this is a targeted attack.
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You move a couple hours ahead, Dan Bongino. He comes
out and says, our leadership team on the ground and
Boulder will be updating you shortly on the attack in Boulder.
This act of terror is being investigated as an act
of ideologically motivated violence based on the early information, the evidence,
and witness accounts. We will speak clearly on these instants
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when the facts warrant it. I find great peace in knowing, yes,
we finally have two individuals here, they're saying, we're not
playing politics.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We're going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Look, everyone knows what this is. It's not complicated. And
there are times there's times when a crime occurs and
you don't know why. I mean, sometimes someone's randomly shot
on the street, and it could be a crime of passion.
It could be a lover's quarrel, it could be a
robbery gone awry, it could be a totally crazy person.
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Like there are all sorts of There are crimes where
it is difficult to ascertain what happened and you need
to have an invest and that's true at every instance,
but there are also crimes that are on the face
of this. Anybody who's not a blithering idiot knows what
this is. If you have elderly Jewish people walking along
holding signs saying free the hostages and Gaza, and someone
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who is an illegal immigrant from Egypt throws a Molotov
cocktail at them, or multiple Molotov cocktails at them and
lights them on fire, that is not subtle. That doesn't
take Sherlock Holmes to figure out what's going on there.
When you have just two weeks ago, two Jewish people
walking out of a Jewish museum in DC, and you
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have a radical leftist who screams free, free Palestine and
guns them down, emptying the magazine into them, firing shots
over and over and over again, and murdering them on
the streets. That is not subtle or complicated. It It
is straightforward. And those who seek to deny it and
say no, no, no, this is not intifada, this is
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not antiic, this is not targeted terrorism. This we don't
know what this is. They're lying to you.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
They know.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It's not that they don't know, it's that they don't
want to say it because acknowledging what it is conflicts
with their political ideology and their political agenda. And sadly
that is true for the overwhelming majority of the corporate media.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You and I have also talked about this, and this
brings in another aspect of this conversation, and it's the
one that concerns me, honestly the most, and that is
how many people came into this country during.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
The last administration. Yes, yes, that are terrorists.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
This was a terrorist that the last administration not only
let in, but then allowed them to overstay and then
rewarded them with the ability to take a job while
here planning this type of attack. I am terrified of
how many other terrorists we may be harboring right now
that they let in. How concerned are you now seeing
this play out the way?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
It is?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Deeply, deeply concerned. I think the odds are overwhelming that
there is more to come. You know, I got to say,
during the Biden administration, you had Christopher Ray as the
head of the FBI. I've known Chris for over twenty
five years. Chris, I think made a lot of mistakes
ashead of the FBI. I do not think he had
a good tenure. But the one thing he did do
is he repeatedly went before Congress, particularly the last two years,
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and tried to wring the alarm, tried tried to scream
from the mountaintops saying, are risks of a terror attack
right now are higher than they've ever been. These open borders, Hesblahamas,
Palestinian Islamic jihad, we are inviting terrorists into this country
and Americans are going to die because of it. That
is tragically true. The Trump administration, I think, is doing
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a heroic job tracking down and trying to find these guys.
But when you have over twelve million people that Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris and all the Congressional Democrats invited into this country.
You can't turn that around overnight. That takes time and
the risks. The risks are that we will see unfortunately
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more terror attacks in the weeks and months to come
as a result of the Democrats' open borders the last
four years.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Final question, will there ever be accountability for those that
willingly allowed this to happen in the Biden administration? Or
my orcis I mean, I go back to the famous
quote from him when he said the border is secure.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
The border is secure.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
We've all heard a million times that was a lie.
Then it's a lie. Now this is what was coming in.
Will there be any accountability or is it just Hey,
that's what they did and it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Look I hope so may Orcus may be the most
dishonest individual to have ever served in the United States cabinet.
He routinely lied. He lied before Congress, he lied before
the American people. He'd go on TV every day and lie.
It's actually a close battle between him and Kareem John
Pierre at the White House Press Secretary, who also She
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actually embodies the opposite of a backhanded compliment. Years ago,
when Bill Clinton was president, a backhanded compliment was said
of him that he's an unusually good liar. That probably
was true. Well, I got to say, Kareem Jean Pierre
and Alejandra Mayorcas are unusually bad liars, and sadly, it
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didn't stop them from lying. They lied constantly. Every time
they open their mouths, they lied. But they were so
bad at it that everyone knew they were lying. Even
their cheerleaders knew they were lying. When Karane Jehan Pierre
said people aren't walking across the border, it's simply not happening.
That doesn't happen. Everybody who had ever opened their eyes
and turned on the television for ten seconds knew that that.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Was a lie.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
She knew that that was a lie. Every reporter in
the room knew that was a lie. Then again, the
reporters at ABCNBCCBSC, and NMSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times,
they did not report that it was a lie. The
same is true with Alejandra Mayorcis. This was brazen. Understand
the presence of terrorists, the presence of murderers and rapists
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and child molesters and Venezuelan gang members in this country.
It is not accident, it is not unintentional. It is
the intended result of the Democrats' open borders. Now, it's
not that they sat around saying we want more terrorists.
It's that they said, all we care about is politics.
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If we let twelve million people here illegally, they will
become Democrats. They will vote Democrats, they will register illegally.
They will keep us in power. And so if the
price for Democrats to stay in power is more Americans
being murdered, more women being raped, more children being brutalized,
more terrorists committing acts of terror, I'm sorry to say
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the Democrats were more than happy to take that exchange.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I want to move to the other big story, and
that is Ukraine claims a massive drone strike on Russia
and literally the country from one side the other. They
were hitting sites of Russian bombers and what was called
a spider web operation. I want to make sure though,
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that people understand this was a response to an attack
that took place at the hands of Russia, and putin
that Donald Trump referred to him as a crazy man afterwards.
So Let's give the background before we explain what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, listen, the war has been ongoing for more than
two years now. There's been massive casualties on both sides.
Russia is the aggressor. Russia, Russia is the wrongdoer. Putin
invaded Ukraine or another sovereign nation. Putin did so because
Joe Biden was so incredibly weak, because he was ineffective
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commander in chief. Putin did so because Joe Biden waived
the sanctions on nord Stream two, the pipeline that was
designed to move natural gas directly from Russia to Germany.
I authored those sanctions, I passed them into law, and
President Trump signed my sanctions legislation into law. Putin shut
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down Nordstream two literally the day Trump signed my sanctions
legislation into law. Biden waived those sanctions, and Putin completed
the pipeline and almost immediately invaded Ukraine. So the war
has been ongoing and it is the cause.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
The cause of.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It is Biden's weakness. Well, what happened today Ukraine? You know,
I'll tell you. At the start of the war, I
remember sitting in a classified briefing and it was a
classified briefing with all one hundred senators, And we had
in that briefing with the Secretary of State, with the
Secretary of Defense, with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, with the head of the CIA, the Director
of National Intelligence. We had multiple players throughout the national
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security apparatus. This is all during the Biden administration. Every
single one of them briefed all of the senators. They said,
this war will be over within a week. Russia will
sweep in, they'll conquer the whole country. Ukraine will fall,
and within a week Kiev will be a Russian city.
Now that Intel, that national security assessment ben it wasn't
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slightly wrong, It wasn't a teeny bit wrong. It was
totally catastrophically one hundred and eighty degrees false. We're sitting
here more than two years later, the war is ongoing
and the Ukrainians keep shocking both the Russians and the
American analysts who insists that they must lose, they must lose.
This latest strike, it truly is audacious. So the Ukrainians
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hit more than forty Russian bombers inside Russian territory, and
it was a total of forty one strategic Russian aircraft.
The name of the operation was Spiderweb and you can
see online there's a video showing a drone attack at
the Belaya air Base in Russia's Irkust region, which is
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in Siberia, nearly three thousand miles away from Ukraine. So
understand this happened not by Ukraine but three thousand miles away.
And the bombers they're under attack, their explosions, Smoke is
rising from the scene and one source said quote, preliminary
estimates indicate that enemy aviation has suffered over two billion
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dollars in damage. Enemy strategic bombers are burning en mass
in Russia. That is a major attack. It is an
extraordinary attack. Now, that follows the night before Russia launched
four hundred and seventy two drones according to the Ukrainian
Air Force. Earlier on Sunday, Ukraine's army set a Russian
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missile strike killed at least twelve Ukrainian service members and
injured sixty. So Russia has been very much it's the aggressor.
But this attack taking out major aircraft resources from Russia
is a big victory for Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
It is a big, big victory.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
They are obviously worried individuals, especially in that part of
the world, that Russia will then now retalied in some
massive way, and then therefore blaming Ukraine saying you should
not have done this attack that took them a long
time to plan strategically. I want to get your response
to that, because there does seem to be quite often
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that when Ukraine does something, the narrative becomes, well, they're
the ones that will bring us to the brink of
World War III, because now Russia is going to respond
and it's actually their fault that they went over the
top on this one.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Look, Russia has been the aggressor from the beginning. Ukraine
is defending itself. I want to break down how they
carry this out because it's actually this is the stuff
of spy novels.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
We talked about when Israel struck back against Hezbolah with
first the pagers and then with the walkie talkies. That
was an extraordinary story. This has similar aspects. It's like
something out of Mission Impossible of the born identity and
let me read from its historian, Reuters the specific facts.
Here's what Reuters reported to attack Russian air bases Ukrainian
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spies hid drones in wooden sheds. Ukrainian secret services were
able to attack strategic bomber aircraft at Russian air bases
on Sunday by hiding explosive laden drones inside the roofs
of wooden sheds, according to a Ukrainian security official. Ukraine's
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domestic security agency, the SBU, acknowledged that it carried out
the operation code named Spider's Web, and said that it
caused considerable damage. The sheds were loaded onto trucks that
were driven to the perimeter of the air bases. The
roof panels of the sheds were lifted off by a
remotely activated mechanism, allowing the drones to fly out and
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begin their attack, the official set. The security official, who
spoken on conditions of anonymity, said the strikes conducted on
Sunday were on four air bases and that forty one
Russian warplanes were hit. An SBU statement posted on the
telegram messaging app estimated the damages caused by the assault
at seven billion dollars. And here's a quote. Thirty four
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percent of strategic cruise missile carriers at the main airfields
of the Russian Federation were hit.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Wow, that is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And it is the fact that they could carry it
out in wooden sheds, that they could smuggle right next
to the Russian airfield. That's a significant tactical and strategic victory.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So when you look at this, what is the best
case scenario for this attack? Does it make Russia realize
A They're vulnerable and B maybe we need to we
need to go back to the table because as you
heard President Trump say, he said Putin was crazy last week,
a crazy man and refusing to actually stop this war.
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Instead he went on this big attack in Ukraine. Ukraine responds, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Look, I think President Trump is deeply frustrated with Vlatimir Putin.
Right now, President Trump wants this war to end. I
believe this war will end. It will end this year.
And one of the reasons it's going to end is
I think the United States Congress is done sending money
to Ukraine, that that at this point we have sent
over one hundred billion dollars. Enough is enough.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
This war needs to end.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
So the blank checkbook that Joe Biden the Democrats gave
that blank checkbook is done. Now what I believe is
it needs to end in a negotiated settlement, and it
should end in a way that is a clear and
objectively discernible loss for Russia. Put is our enemy. Russia
is our enemy, and we want we want our enemies
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to be weaker and not stronger. How this ends exactly,
it's going to depend on Zelensky and Putin. Zelensky right
now doesn't want to negotiate a piece. He's looking to
fight and defend his country. I understand that he just
doesn't have an entitlement for us to pay for it.
Putin Putin right now, Trump believe that if he leaned in,
(30:26):
Putin would agree to come to the table and seek
terms of peace. At least so far he hasn't. It
is possible this devastating strike on Russia will change Russia's calculus.
That being said, look, one of the dangerous things about
fighting a dictatorship is that Putin can inflict enormous pain
and misery on the Russian citizenry and still stay in power.
(30:48):
So I don't know how this resolves. I believe it
will resolve at the end of the day. But right
now Putin and Zelenski both seem like they want to
keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
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