December 15, 2025 • 34 mins
- Tragic events highlighted
- Rob Reiner & spouse killed in Los Angeles, allegedly by their son, who reportedly struggled with addiction and mental illness; attribution is said to be from “People magazine,” with police not yet confirming details.
- Brown University shooting: 2 dead, 9 injured in an economics exam-prep class; a suspect was later found at a hotel south of Providence; motive and affiliation are described as unknown at the time of recording.
- Australia shooting (Bondi Beach): 16 dead, 40 injured; allegedly conducted by a father–son pair targeting a Hanukkah gathering; the hosts frame this as clearly motivated by anti-Semitism.
- Sen. Chris Murphy was some how linking the Brown University shooting to Donald Trump on CNN.
- Democrats use tragedies to push gun control and allegedly “justify violence,” contrasted with Trump preventing violence by arresting and deporting criminals/terrorists.
- Security & personal safety
- Open borders, sleeper cells, and insufficient vetting is to blame
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is verdicuous center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
It is a lot that we have to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A lot of it is sad news, including the attacks
that we've witnessed in this country and also abroad. And
it's going to be a show where we have to
deal with some warnings that came long time ago that
people didn't pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, evil is in the world, and unfortunately this weekend
it became abundantly clear for anyone who was watching. We
saw the weekend start off with the horrific shooting at
Brown University. Then shortly there after we saw the mass
shooting in Australia targeting the Jewish community there. And as
(00:41):
you and I are recording this late Sunday night, the
news just broke that Rob Reiner and his wife were
both murdered, apparently by a family member, and so it
really has been a difficult weekend, a weekend of of
horrific murder. We're going to break down and talk about
all three of those, all of that in today's podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah good. It's a very interesting story there.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And the question a lot of Americans are asking is, well,
if there are consequences when would we see those.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We'll deal with that in a moment.
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Reiner for a moment. So shocking news that we're hearing
about the death, the murder of Robin and his wife.
He is someone that's involved in some of your favorite
movies as well.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, look, the news just broke today and here's what
People magazine is reporting. Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle
Singer Reiner, were found dead in their Los Angeles home
on Sunday, December fourteenth. Authorities responded to a medical aid
call around three thirty pm discovered their bodies. Multiple sources
tell People that the killer was the couple's son, Nick Reiner.
(03:43):
Nick previously spoke publicly about his long battle with drug
addiction and periods of homelessness, and People magazine goes on
to say Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner
were killed by their son, Nick, according to multiple sources
who have spoken with family members. Police have not yet
confirmed the account. On Sunday, the Los Angeles Fire Department
(04:06):
was called to a home to provide medical aid. Upon arrival,
they found a man seventy eight and a woman sixty
eight dead. Police say Nick thirty two, is alive and
being questioned. No arrests have been made, and you know,
I have to say this is sad on so many levels. One,
(04:30):
I'll just say, look, mental illness is real, and I
don't know the medical condition of Rob Reiner son, but
I operate from an assumption that any time a son
kills his parents that you're dealing with significant mental illness,
(04:50):
and it just it is heartbreaking the tragedy of a
mother and father, a parent allegedly killed by their son,
the tragedy for the son's life, that that for the
rest of his life he will live with that. I
don't know if he had apparently struggled with addiction for
(05:12):
a long time. I don't know if he was under
the influence of of of drugs or dealing with significant
mental illness or both. But it's just sad and and
I'll say, look, I didn't know Rob Reiner, but he
was an amazingly talented man. He was a funny man.
He was you know, he kind of first broke onto
the national scene, uh as an actor as as Meathead
(05:37):
in in All in the Family, and you know, playing
Archie Bunker's son in law. And and and he was.
He was skilled as an actor, but his real gift
was in in in writing and directing movies. And and
he was. He was the son of the legendary comedian
Carl Reiner, who was incredibly talented as well. I cannot
imagine what their dinner table was like with Carl Rob
(05:59):
Reiner and rob Ber you know, cracking jokes, but you
look at Reiner's first movie was nineteen eighty four This
Is Spinal Tap, a classic. He then made The Sure Thing.
He then made Stand By Me. His fourth movie was
my all time favorite movie ever, The Princess Bride in
nineteen eighty seven. He followed that up with When Harry
(06:19):
Met Sally, another fantastic classic, one of the best and
funniest comedies ever made. From there, he made Misery and
other terrific dark comedy. From there he made a Few
Good Men. I mean, one of the most spectacular military
drama legal shows. Jack Nicholson's testimony on the stand is
(06:41):
spectacularnic In nineteen ninety five, he made The American President,
another great movie. I've only seen it about one hundred times,
Ghosts of Mississippi, rumor has it the bucket list LBJ,
God and Country. He was incredibly talented and and and
(07:02):
I just you know, I want to say, I'm I'm mourning,
uh the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, that
that is not uh. Murder is a horrible thing. And
and and when mental illness is likely contributing to it
in a family, it's just tragic. And it makes your
heart grieve.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, it really does. Aim into that. I couldn't agree
with you more.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We moved from that to even more tragedy at Brown University,
and then we go to Australia from there. But let's
start with Brown University. We don't know as much. They're
holding a lot of information back apparently.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And this investigation of the attack. Uh, there we do
are starting to get some of the names of the
victims and those have been shot and those have been killed.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It is so tragic.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
They were dealing with exams and and and exam prep
when this attack took place in this in this classroom.
It really is shocking and saddening to see this again.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No, it really is sad. Students were apparently in a
classroom doing exam preparation, final exam preparation for an economics
exam for the broad introductory economics class that apparently roughly
half the students at Brown take. It was the most
wide signed up class. We know that two people were murdered,
(08:22):
nine people were injured as a shooter entered the class
and began opening fire. For several hours, the shooter was
on the run. They didn't know who he was. As
of Sunday night. Police have said that they have an
individual in custody, and they said that he was found
at a hotel in Coventry, about seventeen miles south of Providence.
(08:45):
At this point, the police have not said whether this
individual is affiliated with Brown University, So we don't know.
We don't really know who he is. We don't know
what his motive was. I assume that will come out
in the hours and days to come. Understand why Uh,
this this lunatic wanted to commit a mass murder. But
but we don't know his motivation. And I want to
(09:07):
be I want to be slow to speculate because it
could be any of of of a lot of things. Uh.
But uh. The mayor has said seven individuals remain in
stable condition, one is critical but stable condition, and another
has been discharged. So one of the one of the
people injured is out of the hospital. And and I
(09:29):
will say it's just horrific. No one should go to
school and and and fear for this, that this sort
of horror. We see far too many of these. We
we we see school shootings, you know, I've seen them
in Texas. I've seen them at Santa Fe. I've seen
them at Uvaldi. Santa Fe is a high school that
(09:53):
is maybe forty five minutes away from my house, and
and I was home the morning of the shooting, and
so I was on the camp within about an hour
of when the shooting occurred, and saw the tragedy, saw
the horrific suffering. I was also on the ground in
Sutherland Springs, the worst church shooting in our nation's history.
(10:15):
We have far too many of these here. As I said,
we don't know the motivation, and so more may become that.
We don't know if it is motivated by terrorism, We
don't know if it is motivated by something specific to Brown.
We don't know if it had a racial component, or
a a component targeting any particular community, all of those
(10:37):
we have seen in prior mass shootings. But I am hopeful.
It has been reported multiple times that the shooter yelled
something in the classroom before he opened fire, But we
don't have confirmation what he yelled, and so my assumption
is that we will get we will get information, we
will get hopefully this individual's social media record. I don't
(11:01):
know if he's written anything about what his motivation is,
what his connection was, if any, to Brown University, into
that classroom, and to the people uh he he fired upon.
But it is just that there is far too much evil,
There is far too much hate and and dealing with
with with criminality and violent criminals. We need to do
(11:23):
much much more to deal with criminality and and I'll
tell you my prayers. My prayers are with Rob Ryaner's
family and and everyone grieving his loss. My prayers are
with everyone in the Brown University community who is grieving
that those who lost loved ones, those who are shocked
and afraid. It was reported that at least two of
(11:44):
the students at Brown had previously been in school shootings
in high school, which is just you know, you and
I are both parents, and and what no child should
should have to endure that much less endure it twice.
And and you know, I think we need to be
much much more vigorous in going after violent criminals, preventing
(12:06):
these sorts of mass crimes before they happen. It's one
of the reasons why doing things like securing the border
and arresting gang members and potential terrorists is so important
because many of these instances mass murders are carried out
by terrorists. And we've seen we've seen that happen in
(12:27):
the United States. We saw that happen as recently as
the two National guardsmen that were shot in d C
by the Afghan Islamic radical who'd been brought into this
country under the Biden administration. And we saw it horrifically
in Australia. And I will say what happened in Australia
(12:48):
just takes the breath away. With Australia we know significantly more.
It is clear that in Australia this was targeting the
Jewish community. At this point, sixteen are dead, forty are
injured in the mass shooting on Bondi Beach. It appears
(13:09):
it's being reported that the two gunmen were a father
and son. Can you imagine the level of hate that
a father and son to say with your son, here's
how I want to go out in the world, because look,
when you carry out a mass shooting like that, you're
expecting to die, You're expecting this to be your last
(13:31):
act on planet Earth. And the level of bilious hate.
And this was targeting a Honikah celebration on Bondi Beach
in Sydney, Australia. It was clearly targeting the Jewish community.
And I think unquestionably motivated by anti Semitism, by hate
of Jews, hate of Israel. We will find out more,
(13:53):
but I don't think any reasonable observer can doubt that
at this point. And I got to say, the fact
that it's a father and son, it really is an
element of this story that I think just haunts you.
And it reminds me of after October seventh, Uh, the
(14:14):
Israeli government intercepted a lot of cell phone conversations intercepted
back and forth of terrorists and and and I listened
to about an hour worth of intercepted conversations on October
seventh of people committing horrific murders, people committing horrific rapes,
motivated by the same thing, by by hatred of Jews.
And there's one exchange in particular on those intercepted calls
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that that that haunts me to this day.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I know it's.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Zachary one you're about to talk about, And it's going
to be the the the terrorist calling back to his parents.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, it's a young and they celebrated it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, it's a young Hamas terrorist who calls home to
his dad in Gaza, and and and and he he is,
he is celebrating and he's so excited, and he says, Dad,
I killed ten Jews today, I killed ten Jews. And
and and the father uh says, praise ay light. He
calls his mother over, and his mom, all excited, comes
(15:12):
rushing over to hear the great news that her son
had murdered ten Jews that day, and and the the
there was something surreal about listening to someone who had
just committed mass murder, murdered ten innocent individuals. We don't
know if those were elderly people, women, children, We don't
(15:33):
know who the ten were. But he was so proud
that he wanted wanted to brag to his parents. And
the father's first reaction is to call his wife, look
what a great thing our son did, and and and
and that. I have to say, evil and hate is
so saturated when you want to do that. And I
(15:54):
look here at a father and son who the father decides, here,
here's how I want my son to die. Here's how
I want me to die. And here's how I want
my son to die. We're gonna kill as many Jews
as possible, because that is the sum total of all
we care about in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It truly is evil, you know, one of the things
that I think was also shocking, if you've seen the
video of that shooting, is when the sun goes down,
the dad doesn't check on the sun.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
The dad keeps shooting. They're side by side.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, there's just it's just like, as you mentioned,
this mindset of just pure evil, I call it sadistic
evil hate where hate. Child has been shot, you don't stop.
You just keep going to kill as many Jews as possible.
That is what we witness, which is truly unbelievable to think.
I mean, my son, anything happens, your daughter's anything happened,
(16:49):
You stop what you're doing, You check. There was no
It was like, hey, we're gonna go out guns ablazing.
This is how we're gonna end it. And we're doing
the name of radical Islam.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well and you and I also saw the video of
the Australian man who rushes in and tackles one of
the gunmen and and wrestles the gun out.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Of his hand. What hero, by the way, what extraordinary hero.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean that someone sitting there just firing a rifle
murdering people to charge him, to tackle him, you're obviously
taking your own life in your hands to put it mildly.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But take the gun away was I mean, it was incredible.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It was That's not an easy thing to do, and
he forcibly took it away, and and and it's you know,
there are mixed reports online about about who that gentleman is,
so I want to I want to just refrain because
I'm not sure from their conflicting press reports, but I
will say, whoever he is, that that was extraordinary heroism.
(17:46):
And I have no doubt that that that his courage
that day saved lives.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I want to bring in some of the just the
national security, in the in the the issues at home
when I see this. There have been lots of warnings
in Australia by some of the media, some in their
political parties over there for years saying we're allowing too
many people to come in that are unvetted.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
We have that same warning here.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
We talked about the number of people were worried about
the've come across our southern border that could be on
the tearrist watch list here on the last show. It's
not one hundreds, it's now into the thousands. Is the
warning coming from the Trump administration? We see this attack
that happened, for example, at Brown University. And I think
the part that scares me the most is even when
these things happen, Democrats never want to miss an opportunity
(18:35):
to push their agenda and also to attack Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'll give you an example of that.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
One of your colleagues, Senator Chris Murphy, thought it was
appropriate Sunday morning to go on Stay the Union CNN
and attack President Trump for the Brown University shooting. And
I want to play for you what he said, and
then I want to get your reaction to it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Not shocking because over the last year, President Trump has
been engaged in a dizzying campaign to increase violence in
this country. He is restoring gun rights to felons and
people who have lost their ability to buy guns. He
eliminated the White House Office of Gun Violence Protection, and
he has stopped funding mental health grants and community anti
(19:16):
gun violence grants that Republicans and Democrats supported in that
twenty twenty two bill. So he has been engaged in
a pretty deliberate campaign to try to make violence more
likely in this country.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'm just going to stop there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He's been a part of a deliberate campaign for more
violence and He said it, not once, but twice in
two different ways. The first time he said Donald Trum's
been engaged in it and a dizzying campaign to increase
violence in this country. Then he goes a step further
and says he's advocating and creating the violence. We don't
(19:51):
know much about Brown. We started that with a show.
So why even say this when we don't even know
anything at all about the shooting there? Number one two,
They're not even going to take a moment to talk
about what the actual cause could be. This is somehow
orangeman battlets blame him for shooting at a university.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
And let's be clear. We're just over a year out
from President Trump being shot and being the target of
two different assassination attempts. We are just months out from
Charlie Kirk being murdered. We are weeks out from National
guardsmen being shot by Afghan radicals that the Democrats let
(20:32):
in and didn't vet. We are weeks out from shots
fired at ICE agents and ICE agents being targeted by
radical Zealots. And listen, Well and I have talked about
on this show how there is a real divide between
left and right. The left justifies violence. Let me be
absolutely clear, violence is never, ever, ever, Okay, I do
(20:55):
not seek violence against any of my political opponents. It
is absolutely unaccepted. Will period the end. You and I
have talked about the polling numbers that show an increasing
number in the neighborhood of half of self described Democrats
say that violence is justified against Donald Trump, or violence
is justified against Elon Musk. This is unacceptable, and I
(21:19):
will say, you know, it's interesting that Chris listen. Any
time there is a crime, Chris's answer is more gun control.
It is to disarm law abiding citizens, because he believes
the way you stop crime is to prevent you from
defending yourself and your family. That is Chris's go to,
It is the go to of almost every Democrat. But
(21:41):
let's call out what happened in Australia clearly and unequivocally.
You know, it was interesting today you saw a number
of people on the left putting out tweets that were
basically thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers with the people
of Australia. It was interesting a number of them refused
eve and to acknowledge that it was the Jewish community
(22:01):
that was targeted.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It was just sor generic, and people are like, this
was a Jewish event publicized online to start the Jewish
holiday and to celebrate being Jewish.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yes, yes, no, this was a Jewish gathering celebrating Hanukkah.
Among those targeted was at least one rabbi. But look
for those leftists who are putting out the phrase thoughts
and prayers. I have a simple question, what do you
think globalize the Intifada means? Yeah, Comrade Mandami has repeatedly
(22:39):
chanted globalized the Intifada. The Intifada is this, That is
the Intifada being globalized. It is radical Islamist murdering Jews.
If you chant globalize the Intifada, you are saying you
want more of this. That is why it is so wrong.
The left embrace of Hamas and and radical Islam, refusal
(23:05):
to call it out for what it is is deliberately
inciting more. And you know there's there's something Freudian about democrats.
You noticed Chris Murphy said, well, Trump is encouraging more violence.
Let's be clear, Trump is doing the exact opposite of that.
He is doing everything he can to prevent violence. He
is actively arresting murderers and gangbangers and terrorists. He is
(23:26):
deporting them and removing from this country the.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Most dangerous cities and making them safe again. That is
the guy they're now accusing of being out there selling violence,
advocating for violence, spreading violence, creating rate violence. Is how
Center Chris Murphy put it. I'm like, hold on a second.
That's a lie in DC. That's a lie in Chicago,
that is a lie in Memphis, Tennessee. That's a lie
in New Orleans right now, that's a lie for a
(23:51):
lot of what we've seen in Houston, where you and
I are right now, where we've seen a lot of
really bad individuals that are legal immigrants in this country
that have been taken out, thank goodness, by eyes another
law enforcement. Like the idea that he's out there sowing
violence is insanity.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, and listen, let's start with a premise that everyone
or everyone within some reasonable set of bounds, wants to
prevent murder, wants to see innocent people not be killed.
In the Senate, I am confident all one hundred senators
would want to prevent murder. That we don't have anyone
(24:27):
who is actively cheering on and eager to see more murder. However,
policies have consequences. When you allow into this country terrorists
like the Afghan radical who murdered one National guardsman and
severely wounded another, yep. When you let into this country
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through open borders Hamas and Hesbala and IRGC terrorists, you
know to an absolute certainty that murders will result. When
you release convicted murderers, as the Democrats did for four years,
you know to an absolute certainty more murders will result.
When you release Ms thirteen gang bangers into communities, you
(25:13):
know that more murders will result. And at some point
you have a consequence for those decisions. And their answer
is always no, no, no, release all the criminals. But
if we just take away the guns from Ben Ferguson,
there will be no more mass shootings in Australia or
at Brown University. And it is it is a question ideology.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Incredible gun control laws there yep, and it didn't stop them.
So for everybody saying well if we just had great
gun control laws, things like Brown wouldn't happen and we
had extreme gun control Australia, has it. Look at what
happened today in Australia and By the way, it took
twenty minutes to apparently for this attack to stop. Police
(25:57):
early on didn't even return fire. There's a lot of
question around that. What we do know is even and
you go back to anti semitism for a second center,
Netanyahu actually accused the Australian Prime Minister of having fueled
anti Semitism in.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Australia before this attack happened.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think that's a really important point that should be
brought up, that there are people out there talking about
the truth, being honest about where we are. Australia has
got a real problem. There's several of their government officials
now that have come out and said it in the
last several hours that there has been an explosion of
anti Semitism in Australia and it is now at a
(26:36):
fever pitch. And this is what you get when you
don't check it and the leaders of the country don't
check it. That's why Netanyahu, i think, called him out
when he did.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, Look, I want to be cautious about being overly
critical in law enforcement at this point. Any time there
there there is a mass murder, that there is inevitably
a fog of war. It takes a while to ascertaining
exactly what happened, who did what. I am confident that
we saw law enforcement officers exhibit considerable bravery while this
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was happening, and so to be I want to be
slow to criticize law enforcement, particularly when we don't know
everything that occurred. But what I think is indisputable is
that when you have rhetoric calling for murder, yeah, you
should not be surprised when murder results. And I want
to play this clip from this is a day after
(27:31):
October seventh, when twelve hundred Jews were murdered by Hamas
in Israel. This is the protest in Sydney, Australia. Give
a listen, Senator.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
The part there that the audience we played for them
is them saying gas the Jews, Gas the Jews. Moments
later they also started chanting f the Jews. We're not
going to play that here for obvious reasons, but they
chanted that with as much vigor as they were chanting
gas the Jews. This, as you mentioned, right after the
(28:23):
attacks on the worst attack since the Holocaust on Jews
in Israel.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And they also chanted a lahu akbar, which is what
has been reported that the two mass murderers chanted on
Bondi Beach. Gas the Jews is not some reasonable political
to dispute about whether a two states solution is the
right resolution between Israel and the Palestinians. It's not arguing
(28:49):
for middle ground or compromise. It is arguing for another Holocaust.
It is calling for Jews to be put in gas
chambers and exterminated. This is a crowd the day after
this is October eighth, the day after twelve hundred Jews
are murdered by Hamas. They're chanting, they're waving Palestinian flags,
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and they are saying they want more Jews murdered. So
let me say, every leftist, whether they are Zorron Mandami,
or whether they are in the squad and the House
of Representatives, or whether they are in a college campus
and one of the many anti Semitic protests chanting globalized
the Intifada, this is what they're calling for. Gas the Jews,
(29:33):
kill the Jews. And tragically, this father son duo carried
out on that political agenda, and that agenda is evil.
And by the way, if you were calling for gassing
or killing anyone else, that would be evil as well.
If you were saying, as you and I have talked
about a great length in Nigeria where they are killing Christians,
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and we have spoken out very clearly that killing Christians
is wrong. By the way, they're also killing Muslims. You
shouldn't be killing Muslims. Murder is wrong, period the end.
Everyone should agree on that, and they're unfortunately too many
on the left who embrace an ideology where they don't
admit to themselves they are calling for mass murder, but
(30:20):
there is no other interpretation of that. Chant gas the
Jews on the streets of Sydney the day after October seventh,
and tragically we saw the consequences of that this weekend.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I want to bring it back home for a second.
I just want to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Last week we talked about how they believe there's eighteen
thousand in this country that are on either Terrists or
connected to Terrists, tied to terraces, on the watch list,
or part of sleeper sales. I see what happened in Australia.
I see what happened you know, around the world with
other attacks that we've seen recently. I am very concerned
(30:56):
that we let in so many bad guys that we
didn't remember what happened nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
We didn't vet.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
People that way we were supposed to all because of
the political correctness of the radical left and the obsession
with bringing in people and not seeing who they actually
are having real honest conversations. How concerned are you about
the state of security in this country right now from
things like we just witnessed.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, look, I'm very concerned. I know. I've talked in
the last couple of days to a lot of friends
of mine, a lot of Jewish friends of mine, who
are expressing fear if they go to synagogue, if they
go to a Jewish day school, if they go to
any gathering where they're multiple Jewish people gathered, They're afraid
of violence. They're afraid of mass violence. I tell you,
(31:38):
I'm also hearing my Christian friends if they go to church,
if they go to a Christmas celebration.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I mean, I have a lot of friends right now
that they carry now to every church event because they
are that concerned over it. I mean, I care, you
know that, but I always carry and it's weird. I
actually pick a higher capacity magazine when I'm going to
church because I am afraid of that this type of
scenario taking place, I want to make sure I have
enough IMA to protect my family and everybody else there
(32:05):
that's there to worship.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's the mindset win right now. And it's not a
crazy one either, and that scares me.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah. Look, it is an incredibly dangerous time. There are
people who are radicals, who are evil. You know, when
when the Ayatola says death to America, he means it.
If he could kill the two of us, he would, yep,
if he could kill everyone listening to this podcast, he would.
(32:32):
Hamas and Hezbolah they celebrate. They they you know, Iran
refers to Israel as the Little Satan, America as the
Great Satan. And understand these lunatics that are targeting Jews,
they are targeting Americans. Uh and and and and this.
The only way to deal with it is to be
(32:53):
clear eyed, to confront the threat head on, and to
defeat it. It's why it was so important. The single
most important foreign policy decision President Trump has made the
second term was the decision to bomb Iran's nuclear weapons capability,
Because if the Ayatola succeeded in building nuclear weapons, I
(33:15):
don't want to find out the likelihood that he would
use nuclear weapons, that instead of talking about sixteen dead,
we could be talking about hundreds or thousands or millions dead.
And so the President carried out his responsibility as commander
in chief to say, a theocratic lunatic who says he
wants to murder us, we're not going to allow him
(33:36):
to have weapons that would enable him to murder a
vast number of Americans. That is that's the very essence
of America. First, it's the essence of a commander in
chief fulfilling his responsibility.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
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I will see you back here on Wednesday morning.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is verdicuous center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
It is a lot that we have to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A lot of it is sad news, including the attacks
that we've witnessed in this country and also abroad. And
it's going to be a show where we have to
deal with some warnings that came long time ago that
people didn't pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, evil is in the world, and unfortunately this weekend
it became abundantly clear for anyone who was watching. We
saw the weekend start off with the horrific shooting at
Brown University. Then shortly there after we saw the mass
shooting in Australia targeting the Jewish community there. And as
(00:41):
you and I are recording this late Sunday night, the
news just broke that Rob Reiner and his wife were
both murdered, apparently by a family member, and so it
really has been a difficult weekend, a weekend of of
horrific murder. We're going to break down and talk about
all three of those, all of that in today's podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah good. It's a very interesting story there.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And the question a lot of Americans are asking is, well,
if there are consequences when would we see those.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We'll deal with that in a moment.
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Reiner for a moment. So shocking news that we're hearing
about the death, the murder of Robin and his wife.
He is someone that's involved in some of your favorite
movies as well.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, look, the news just broke today and here's what
People magazine is reporting. Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle
Singer Reiner, were found dead in their Los Angeles home
on Sunday, December fourteenth. Authorities responded to a medical aid
call around three thirty pm discovered their bodies. Multiple sources
tell People that the killer was the couple's son, Nick Reiner.
(03:43):
Nick previously spoke publicly about his long battle with drug
addiction and periods of homelessness, and People magazine goes on
to say Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner
were killed by their son, Nick, according to multiple sources
who have spoken with family members. Police have not yet
confirmed the account. On Sunday, the Los Angeles Fire Department
(04:06):
was called to a home to provide medical aid. Upon arrival,
they found a man seventy eight and a woman sixty
eight dead. Police say Nick thirty two, is alive and
being questioned. No arrests have been made, and you know,
I have to say this is sad on so many levels. One,
(04:30):
I'll just say, look, mental illness is real, and I
don't know the medical condition of Rob Reiner son, but
I operate from an assumption that any time a son
kills his parents that you're dealing with significant mental illness,
(04:50):
and it just it is heartbreaking the tragedy of a
mother and father, a parent allegedly killed by their son,
the tragedy for the son's life, that that for the
rest of his life he will live with that. I
don't know if he had apparently struggled with addiction for
(05:12):
a long time. I don't know if he was under
the influence of of of drugs or dealing with significant
mental illness or both. But it's just sad and and
I'll say, look, I didn't know Rob Reiner, but he
was an amazingly talented man. He was a funny man.
He was you know, he kind of first broke onto
the national scene, uh as an actor as as Meathead
(05:37):
in in All in the Family, and you know, playing
Archie Bunker's son in law. And and and he was.
He was skilled as an actor, but his real gift
was in in in writing and directing movies. And and
he was. He was the son of the legendary comedian
Carl Reiner, who was incredibly talented as well. I cannot
imagine what their dinner table was like with Carl Rob
(05:59):
Reiner and rob Ber you know, cracking jokes, but you
look at Reiner's first movie was nineteen eighty four This
Is Spinal Tap, a classic. He then made The Sure Thing.
He then made Stand By Me. His fourth movie was
my all time favorite movie ever, The Princess Bride in
nineteen eighty seven. He followed that up with When Harry
(06:19):
Met Sally, another fantastic classic, one of the best and
funniest comedies ever made. From there, he made Misery and
other terrific dark comedy. From there he made a Few
Good Men. I mean, one of the most spectacular military
drama legal shows. Jack Nicholson's testimony on the stand is
(06:41):
spectacularnic In nineteen ninety five, he made The American President,
another great movie. I've only seen it about one hundred times,
Ghosts of Mississippi, rumor has it the bucket list LBJ,
God and Country. He was incredibly talented and and and
(07:02):
I just you know, I want to say, I'm I'm mourning,
uh the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, that
that is not uh. Murder is a horrible thing. And
and and when mental illness is likely contributing to it
in a family, it's just tragic. And it makes your
heart grieve.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, it really does. Aim into that. I couldn't agree
with you more.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We moved from that to even more tragedy at Brown University,
and then we go to Australia from there. But let's
start with Brown University. We don't know as much. They're
holding a lot of information back apparently.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And this investigation of the attack. Uh, there we do
are starting to get some of the names of the
victims and those have been shot and those have been killed.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It is so tragic.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
They were dealing with exams and and and exam prep
when this attack took place in this in this classroom.
It really is shocking and saddening to see this again.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No, it really is sad. Students were apparently in a
classroom doing exam preparation, final exam preparation for an economics
exam for the broad introductory economics class that apparently roughly
half the students at Brown take. It was the most
wide signed up class. We know that two people were murdered,
(08:22):
nine people were injured as a shooter entered the class
and began opening fire. For several hours, the shooter was
on the run. They didn't know who he was. As
of Sunday night. Police have said that they have an
individual in custody, and they said that he was found
at a hotel in Coventry, about seventeen miles south of Providence.
(08:45):
At this point, the police have not said whether this
individual is affiliated with Brown University, So we don't know.
We don't really know who he is. We don't know
what his motive was. I assume that will come out
in the hours and days to come. Understand why Uh,
this this lunatic wanted to commit a mass murder. But
but we don't know his motivation. And I want to
(09:07):
be I want to be slow to speculate because it
could be any of of of a lot of things. Uh.
But uh. The mayor has said seven individuals remain in
stable condition, one is critical but stable condition, and another
has been discharged. So one of the one of the
people injured is out of the hospital. And and I
(09:29):
will say it's just horrific. No one should go to
school and and and fear for this, that this sort
of horror. We see far too many of these. We
we we see school shootings, you know, I've seen them
in Texas. I've seen them at Santa Fe. I've seen
them at Uvaldi. Santa Fe is a high school that
(09:53):
is maybe forty five minutes away from my house, and
and I was home the morning of the shooting, and
so I was on the camp within about an hour
of when the shooting occurred, and saw the tragedy, saw
the horrific suffering. I was also on the ground in
Sutherland Springs, the worst church shooting in our nation's history.
(10:15):
We have far too many of these here. As I said,
we don't know the motivation, and so more may become that.
We don't know if it is motivated by terrorism, We
don't know if it is motivated by something specific to Brown.
We don't know if it had a racial component, or
a a component targeting any particular community, all of those
(10:37):
we have seen in prior mass shootings. But I am hopeful.
It has been reported multiple times that the shooter yelled
something in the classroom before he opened fire, But we
don't have confirmation what he yelled, and so my assumption
is that we will get we will get information, we
will get hopefully this individual's social media record. I don't
(11:01):
know if he's written anything about what his motivation is,
what his connection was, if any, to Brown University, into
that classroom, and to the people uh he he fired upon.
But it is just that there is far too much evil,
There is far too much hate and and dealing with
with with criminality and violent criminals. We need to do
(11:23):
much much more to deal with criminality and and I'll
tell you my prayers. My prayers are with Rob Ryaner's
family and and everyone grieving his loss. My prayers are
with everyone in the Brown University community who is grieving
that those who lost loved ones, those who are shocked
and afraid. It was reported that at least two of
(11:44):
the students at Brown had previously been in school shootings
in high school, which is just you know, you and
I are both parents, and and what no child should
should have to endure that much less endure it twice.
And and you know, I think we need to be
much much more vigorous in going after violent criminals, preventing
(12:06):
these sorts of mass crimes before they happen. It's one
of the reasons why doing things like securing the border
and arresting gang members and potential terrorists is so important
because many of these instances mass murders are carried out
by terrorists. And we've seen we've seen that happen in
(12:27):
the United States. We saw that happen as recently as
the two National guardsmen that were shot in d C
by the Afghan Islamic radical who'd been brought into this
country under the Biden administration. And we saw it horrifically
in Australia. And I will say what happened in Australia
(12:48):
just takes the breath away. With Australia we know significantly more.
It is clear that in Australia this was targeting the
Jewish community. At this point, sixteen are dead, forty are
injured in the mass shooting on Bondi Beach. It appears
(13:09):
it's being reported that the two gunmen were a father
and son. Can you imagine the level of hate that
a father and son to say with your son, here's
how I want to go out in the world, because look,
when you carry out a mass shooting like that, you're
expecting to die, You're expecting this to be your last
(13:31):
act on planet Earth. And the level of bilious hate.
And this was targeting a Honikah celebration on Bondi Beach
in Sydney, Australia. It was clearly targeting the Jewish community.
And I think unquestionably motivated by anti Semitism, by hate
of Jews, hate of Israel. We will find out more,
(13:53):
but I don't think any reasonable observer can doubt that
at this point. And I got to say, the fact
that it's a father and son, it really is an
element of this story that I think just haunts you.
And it reminds me of after October seventh, Uh, the
(14:14):
Israeli government intercepted a lot of cell phone conversations intercepted
back and forth of terrorists and and and I listened
to about an hour worth of intercepted conversations on October
seventh of people committing horrific murders, people committing horrific rapes,
motivated by the same thing, by by hatred of Jews.
And there's one exchange in particular on those intercepted calls
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that that that haunts me to this day.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I know it's.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Zachary one you're about to talk about, And it's going
to be the the the terrorist calling back to his parents.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, it's a young and they celebrated it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, it's a young Hamas terrorist who calls home to
his dad in Gaza, and and and and he he is,
he is celebrating and he's so excited, and he says, Dad,
I killed ten Jews today, I killed ten Jews. And
and and the father uh says, praise ay light. He
calls his mother over, and his mom, all excited, comes
(15:12):
rushing over to hear the great news that her son
had murdered ten Jews that day, and and the the
there was something surreal about listening to someone who had
just committed mass murder, murdered ten innocent individuals. We don't
know if those were elderly people, women, children, We don't
(15:33):
know who the ten were. But he was so proud
that he wanted wanted to brag to his parents. And
the father's first reaction is to call his wife, look
what a great thing our son did, and and and
and that. I have to say, evil and hate is
so saturated when you want to do that. And I
(15:54):
look here at a father and son who the father decides, here,
here's how I want my son to die. Here's how
I want me to die. And here's how I want
my son to die. We're gonna kill as many Jews
as possible, because that is the sum total of all
we care about in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It truly is evil, you know, one of the things
that I think was also shocking, if you've seen the
video of that shooting, is when the sun goes down,
the dad doesn't check on the sun.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
The dad keeps shooting. They're side by side.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, there's just it's just like, as you mentioned,
this mindset of just pure evil, I call it sadistic
evil hate where hate. Child has been shot, you don't stop.
You just keep going to kill as many Jews as possible.
That is what we witness, which is truly unbelievable to think.
I mean, my son, anything happens, your daughter's anything happened,
(16:49):
You stop what you're doing, You check. There was no
It was like, hey, we're gonna go out guns ablazing.
This is how we're gonna end it. And we're doing
the name of radical Islam.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well and you and I also saw the video of
the Australian man who rushes in and tackles one of
the gunmen and and wrestles the gun out.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Of his hand. What hero, by the way, what extraordinary hero.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean that someone sitting there just firing a rifle
murdering people to charge him, to tackle him, you're obviously
taking your own life in your hands to put it mildly.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But take the gun away was I mean, it was incredible.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
It was That's not an easy thing to do, and
he forcibly took it away, and and and it's you know,
there are mixed reports online about about who that gentleman is,
so I want to I want to just refrain because
I'm not sure from their conflicting press reports, but I
will say, whoever he is, that that was extraordinary heroism.
(17:46):
And I have no doubt that that that his courage
that day saved lives.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I want to bring in some of the just the
national security, in the in the the issues at home
when I see this. There have been lots of warnings
in Australia by some of the media, some in their
political parties over there for years saying we're allowing too
many people to come in that are unvetted.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
We have that same warning here.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
We talked about the number of people were worried about
the've come across our southern border that could be on
the tearrist watch list here on the last show. It's
not one hundreds, it's now into the thousands. Is the
warning coming from the Trump administration? We see this attack
that happened, for example, at Brown University. And I think
the part that scares me the most is even when
these things happen, Democrats never want to miss an opportunity
(18:35):
to push their agenda and also to attack Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'll give you an example of that.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
One of your colleagues, Senator Chris Murphy, thought it was
appropriate Sunday morning to go on Stay the Union CNN
and attack President Trump for the Brown University shooting. And
I want to play for you what he said, and
then I want to get your reaction to it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Not shocking because over the last year, President Trump has
been engaged in a dizzying campaign to increase violence in
this country. He is restoring gun rights to felons and
people who have lost their ability to buy guns. He
eliminated the White House Office of Gun Violence Protection, and
he has stopped funding mental health grants and community anti
(19:16):
gun violence grants that Republicans and Democrats supported in that
twenty twenty two bill. So he has been engaged in
a pretty deliberate campaign to try to make violence more
likely in this country.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'm just going to stop there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He's been a part of a deliberate campaign for more
violence and He said it, not once, but twice in
two different ways. The first time he said Donald Trum's
been engaged in it and a dizzying campaign to increase
violence in this country. Then he goes a step further
and says he's advocating and creating the violence. We don't
(19:51):
know much about Brown. We started that with a show.
So why even say this when we don't even know
anything at all about the shooting there? Number one two,
They're not even going to take a moment to talk
about what the actual cause could be. This is somehow
orangeman battlets blame him for shooting at a university.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
And let's be clear. We're just over a year out
from President Trump being shot and being the target of
two different assassination attempts. We are just months out from
Charlie Kirk being murdered. We are weeks out from National
guardsmen being shot by Afghan radicals that the Democrats let
(20:32):
in and didn't vet. We are weeks out from shots
fired at ICE agents and ICE agents being targeted by
radical Zealots. And listen, Well and I have talked about
on this show how there is a real divide between
left and right. The left justifies violence. Let me be
absolutely clear, violence is never, ever, ever, Okay, I do
(20:55):
not seek violence against any of my political opponents. It
is absolutely unaccepted. Will period the end. You and I
have talked about the polling numbers that show an increasing
number in the neighborhood of half of self described Democrats
say that violence is justified against Donald Trump, or violence
is justified against Elon Musk. This is unacceptable, and I
(21:19):
will say, you know, it's interesting that Chris listen. Any
time there is a crime, Chris's answer is more gun control.
It is to disarm law abiding citizens, because he believes
the way you stop crime is to prevent you from
defending yourself and your family. That is Chris's go to,
It is the go to of almost every Democrat. But
(21:41):
let's call out what happened in Australia clearly and unequivocally.
You know, it was interesting today you saw a number
of people on the left putting out tweets that were
basically thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers with the people
of Australia. It was interesting a number of them refused
eve and to acknowledge that it was the Jewish community
(22:01):
that was targeted.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It was just sor generic, and people are like, this
was a Jewish event publicized online to start the Jewish
holiday and to celebrate being Jewish.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yes, yes, no, this was a Jewish gathering celebrating Hanukkah.
Among those targeted was at least one rabbi. But look
for those leftists who are putting out the phrase thoughts
and prayers. I have a simple question, what do you
think globalize the Intifada means? Yeah, Comrade Mandami has repeatedly
(22:39):
chanted globalized the Intifada. The Intifada is this, That is
the Intifada being globalized. It is radical Islamist murdering Jews.
If you chant globalize the Intifada, you are saying you
want more of this. That is why it is so wrong.
The left embrace of Hamas and and radical Islam, refusal
(23:05):
to call it out for what it is is deliberately
inciting more. And you know there's there's something Freudian about democrats.
You noticed Chris Murphy said, well, Trump is encouraging more violence.
Let's be clear, Trump is doing the exact opposite of that.
He is doing everything he can to prevent violence. He
is actively arresting murderers and gangbangers and terrorists. He is
(23:26):
deporting them and removing from this country the.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Most dangerous cities and making them safe again. That is
the guy they're now accusing of being out there selling violence,
advocating for violence, spreading violence, creating rate violence. Is how
Center Chris Murphy put it. I'm like, hold on a second.
That's a lie in DC. That's a lie in Chicago,
that is a lie in Memphis, Tennessee. That's a lie
in New Orleans right now, that's a lie for a
(23:51):
lot of what we've seen in Houston, where you and
I are right now, where we've seen a lot of
really bad individuals that are legal immigrants in this country
that have been taken out, thank goodness, by eyes another
law enforcement. Like the idea that he's out there sowing
violence is insanity.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, and listen, let's start with a premise that everyone
or everyone within some reasonable set of bounds, wants to
prevent murder, wants to see innocent people not be killed.
In the Senate, I am confident all one hundred senators
would want to prevent murder. That we don't have anyone
(24:27):
who is actively cheering on and eager to see more murder. However,
policies have consequences. When you allow into this country terrorists
like the Afghan radical who murdered one National guardsman and
severely wounded another, yep. When you let into this country
(24:49):
through open borders Hamas and Hesbala and IRGC terrorists, you
know to an absolute certainty that murders will result. When
you release convicted murderers, as the Democrats did for four years,
you know to an absolute certainty more murders will result.
When you release Ms thirteen gang bangers into communities, you
(25:13):
know that more murders will result. And at some point
you have a consequence for those decisions. And their answer
is always no, no, no, release all the criminals. But
if we just take away the guns from Ben Ferguson,
there will be no more mass shootings in Australia or
at Brown University. And it is it is a question ideology.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Incredible gun control laws there yep, and it didn't stop them.
So for everybody saying well if we just had great
gun control laws, things like Brown wouldn't happen and we
had extreme gun control Australia, has it. Look at what
happened today in Australia and By the way, it took
twenty minutes to apparently for this attack to stop. Police
(25:57):
early on didn't even return fire. There's a lot of
question around that. What we do know is even and
you go back to anti semitism for a second center,
Netanyahu actually accused the Australian Prime Minister of having fueled
anti Semitism in.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Australia before this attack happened.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think that's a really important point that should be
brought up, that there are people out there talking about
the truth, being honest about where we are. Australia has
got a real problem. There's several of their government officials
now that have come out and said it in the
last several hours that there has been an explosion of
anti Semitism in Australia and it is now at a
(26:36):
fever pitch. And this is what you get when you
don't check it and the leaders of the country don't
check it. That's why Netanyahu, i think, called him out
when he did.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, Look, I want to be cautious about being overly
critical in law enforcement at this point. Any time there
there there is a mass murder, that there is inevitably
a fog of war. It takes a while to ascertaining
exactly what happened, who did what. I am confident that
we saw law enforcement officers exhibit considerable bravery while this
(27:09):
was happening, and so to be I want to be
slow to criticize law enforcement, particularly when we don't know
everything that occurred. But what I think is indisputable is
that when you have rhetoric calling for murder, yeah, you
should not be surprised when murder results. And I want
to play this clip from this is a day after
(27:31):
October seventh, when twelve hundred Jews were murdered by Hamas
in Israel. This is the protest in Sydney, Australia. Give
a listen, Senator.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
The part there that the audience we played for them
is them saying gas the Jews, Gas the Jews. Moments
later they also started chanting f the Jews. We're not
going to play that here for obvious reasons, but they
chanted that with as much vigor as they were chanting
gas the Jews. This, as you mentioned, right after the
(28:23):
attacks on the worst attack since the Holocaust on Jews
in Israel.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And they also chanted a lahu akbar, which is what
has been reported that the two mass murderers chanted on
Bondi Beach. Gas the Jews is not some reasonable political
to dispute about whether a two states solution is the
right resolution between Israel and the Palestinians. It's not arguing
(28:49):
for middle ground or compromise. It is arguing for another Holocaust.
It is calling for Jews to be put in gas
chambers and exterminated. This is a crowd the day after
this is October eighth, the day after twelve hundred Jews
are murdered by Hamas. They're chanting, they're waving Palestinian flags,
(29:10):
and they are saying they want more Jews murdered. So
let me say, every leftist, whether they are Zorron Mandami,
or whether they are in the squad and the House
of Representatives, or whether they are in a college campus
and one of the many anti Semitic protests chanting globalized
the Intifada, this is what they're calling for. Gas the Jews,
(29:33):
kill the Jews. And tragically, this father son duo carried
out on that political agenda, and that agenda is evil.
And by the way, if you were calling for gassing
or killing anyone else, that would be evil as well.
If you were saying, as you and I have talked
about a great length in Nigeria where they are killing Christians,
(29:55):
and we have spoken out very clearly that killing Christians
is wrong. By the way, they're also killing Muslims. You
shouldn't be killing Muslims. Murder is wrong, period the end.
Everyone should agree on that, and they're unfortunately too many
on the left who embrace an ideology where they don't
admit to themselves they are calling for mass murder, but
(30:20):
there is no other interpretation of that. Chant gas the
Jews on the streets of Sydney the day after October seventh,
and tragically we saw the consequences of that this weekend.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I want to bring it back home for a second.
I just want to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Last week we talked about how they believe there's eighteen
thousand in this country that are on either Terrists or
connected to Terrists, tied to terraces, on the watch list,
or part of sleeper sales. I see what happened in Australia.
I see what happened you know, around the world with
other attacks that we've seen recently. I am very concerned
(30:56):
that we let in so many bad guys that we
didn't remember what happened nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
We didn't vet.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
People that way we were supposed to all because of
the political correctness of the radical left and the obsession
with bringing in people and not seeing who they actually
are having real honest conversations. How concerned are you about
the state of security in this country right now from
things like we just witnessed.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, look, I'm very concerned. I know. I've talked in
the last couple of days to a lot of friends
of mine, a lot of Jewish friends of mine, who
are expressing fear if they go to synagogue, if they
go to a Jewish day school, if they go to
any gathering where they're multiple Jewish people gathered, They're afraid
of violence. They're afraid of mass violence. I tell you,
(31:38):
I'm also hearing my Christian friends if they go to church,
if they go to a Christmas celebration.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I mean, I have a lot of friends right now
that they carry now to every church event because they
are that concerned over it. I mean, I care, you
know that, but I always carry and it's weird. I
actually pick a higher capacity magazine when I'm going to
church because I am afraid of that this type of
scenario taking place, I want to make sure I have
enough IMA to protect my family and everybody else there
(32:05):
that's there to worship.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
That.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's the mindset win right now. And it's not a
crazy one either, and that scares me.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah. Look, it is an incredibly dangerous time. There are
people who are radicals, who are evil. You know, when
when the Ayatola says death to America, he means it.
If he could kill the two of us, he would, yep,
if he could kill everyone listening to this podcast, he would.
(32:32):
Hamas and Hezbolah they celebrate. They they you know, Iran
refers to Israel as the Little Satan, America as the
Great Satan. And understand these lunatics that are targeting Jews,
they are targeting Americans. Uh and and and and this.
The only way to deal with it is to be
(32:53):
clear eyed, to confront the threat head on, and to
defeat it. It's why it was so important. The single
most important foreign policy decision President Trump has made the
second term was the decision to bomb Iran's nuclear weapons capability,
Because if the Ayatola succeeded in building nuclear weapons, I
(33:15):
don't want to find out the likelihood that he would
use nuclear weapons, that instead of talking about sixteen dead,
we could be talking about hundreds or thousands or millions dead.
And so the President carried out his responsibility as commander
in chief to say, a theocratic lunatic who says he
wants to murder us, we're not going to allow him
(33:36):
to have weapons that would enable him to murder a
vast number of Americans. That is that's the very essence
of America. First, it's the essence of a commander in
chief fulfilling his responsibility.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Don't forget we do this show Monday. We're gonna say Friday.
Hit that subscriber auto download button as well. We're gonna
keep you update on all the news coming out of
this shooting at the university. Pray for those involved. We'll
also keep you update on what we find out even more.
I have a feeling about what happened in Australia as well.
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