December 18, 2023 • 42 mins
Nashville has become a melting pot of people from all parts of the country and all parts of the world. Originally from London, this next artist made the move across the pond to Nashville. She is writing and recording music, continuing to expand country music as a genre, and making history. She recently made her Grand Ole Opry debut after releasing her project, "Blue Hour (After Dark)." Please welcome... Twinnie.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Actually, I don't know whether I can get in trouble
for this. Well, I'm in a different country.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So what is up, guys?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Chris Ferger here on the six one to five House podcast.
I'm really excited because Nashville is music city. It's a
melting pot of people from all parts of the country,
all parts of the world. And I have a really
special guest on today, originally from overseas in London, has
moved to Nashville, made her Grand Old Hoppry debut and
(00:39):
has Blue Hour in parentheses after Dark the ep out.
I'm told there might be like a part two hintin Twinkquink,
But she's seriously so talented and expanding the genre of
country music. I want to talk all about this. I
want to talk about the new music. Please welcome twenty
what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
How you doing.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
It's good to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It is so good to see.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
As soon as you walk in, I was like, we're
going to get along just fine. You got an awesome energy.
This is going to be a great app and your
accent really is just it's something else.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah. Yeah, we might need some titles for.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This, right, should we find some subtitles? Barring met the accent.
I wish I had an accent. That's a problem.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Do you have an accent, though?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I do?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
To you?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
To me, yeah, to you, I.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Guess everyone has an accent.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
When you put it like that, you've got like a
really lovely tone to you speaking voice.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'll take the tone.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I just feel like it's so normal and you got
you got so much spice, like just coming coming from
all different angles here, y'all.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I can talk like this too, So I love y'all's accent.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
That's not bad.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Do you ever intertwine that with your normal voice, because
that could make for like something where people go WHOA.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, I've done it in like bars before and people
are like, wait, where are you from? And I'm like,
I'm from England and they're like, no, you're not, you know,
you just put it on. I'm like, no, I'm actually
from England. That could just do a really good south
In accent. Yeah, because I do it so often because
I like, I'm an actress as well, and I kind
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of like used to impersonate a.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Lot of people.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
But I've been doing this with an accent so much
that somebody asked me to do like just a standard
American the other day, and I was like, I actually
don't think I could do it anymore. I might be
able to do a Cali girl, but it's funny for me.
Like there's like New York. So then Cali Girl. I
was going to ask, can we play a game?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, I'm going to choose a region of the US,
and I want to see what your accent would be.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So we're going to start with Cali girl.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh my god, Like my hair today is just I
don't know, like it's just not working.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I hate it. That was good, was syday. She's a
total bit.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
What about New York? It's like more pretentious? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Can I have a couple of coffee? Please?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
But there you go?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, right, and then give me give me like like Alabama, Georgia, like.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Like southern like y'all, I am so pleased to be here.
Bless your heart for listening to me today. I just
I just love this accent so much. This is like
my Mary Jane.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
So you, I mean, I can tell that you've been
an actress. Those are good. I think I like the
Cali Girl. There's something there's a little a little spice
in that. But she's a bitch, yeah she is. But
I do. I have to say, all of those accents
are great.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Your your your natural voice is fantastic, both talking and
also singing, because that's what you do.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Hey, so when did you move?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
April? April?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So it's been how many months? Eight months? No, nine months.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
What's the first reaction of Nashville from moving.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, I've been coming here like on and off for
like seven years, and so I kind of knew what
to expect anywhere.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
And I was kind of worried that because.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Nashville when I first came, has such a shine to it.
It's like such a great energy and like the community
and new people are like, hey, like this meet this person,
and you just and I'm such a social butterfly.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
There's people here that like, how do you know?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Everyone just go out with you and you know everyone,
And I'm like, I think it's just because I really
enjoy people.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I like, I love I'm not like a small talk person.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I like to get to the root of somebody, you know,
like give me all your triggers, your traumas. And I
think like mainly Red Door is like where I've met
most people.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
But yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Like I've had my fair share of the one I
am read door conversations.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, And also I just like, I think I'm like
completely myself. So I think Nashville sometimes challenges that a
little bit because the the industry and country genre whatever.
I don't really see genre that much. I just love
I just love any music and I just love writing.
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So moving here, I just wanted to be the best
that I could possibly be and surround myself for the best.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
But for the most part, I was just kind.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Of worried that it would lose it shine or I'd
feel like because when I used to come into town,
I'd be like, I've got five days. Who wants to write?
Like that's it, none of this bullshit. We're from publishers Like, hey,
I'm trying to book a right and they're like, yes,
so we've got January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I'm like, which does happen?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
It really happens, And I'm like, no, that's what.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Honestly, there's so many gatekeepers within people's teams that if
you actually speak to the artists, isn't there there to
you know, navigate that kind of stuff. But like, I
manage myself currently, which is a whole different thing. But
I also manage another artist. And I think because I've
grown up in the entertainment industry, it's like same shit,
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different smele like, it's all the same.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It's it can be very political.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You just got to keep going and if you say
no to me, it's just an early form of yes,
like because I'll just keep coming back, like I'll be
so good you conagnore me.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I love that, you know, we were talking a bit
earlier about that, because there are some people that struggle
with rejection, and if you're.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
In the music industry, I do struggle with I see.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I love that because there are people that like pack
up and go home, or they're like, oh, sopress, I
got to know, I gotta go home, Like legitimately, can
I go home?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Literally will refuse not to go home. I did say
I wouldn't go home until I played the Opry and
thank you card, I can go home for Christmas because
it's happened and it was incredible in such a moment,
and that kind of like me.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I think some brownie points within the industry, you.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Know, absolutely to write a passage.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Because they're like, who is this girl?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
This brit country, she does country, She's just kind of country,
kind of pop like what is she? And I all
I want from people is to hear a song as
a twenty song, you know, because I love I don't know,
I just I want to do great work. I love
any form of art like even this, Like I just
love connecting with people and I want to do that
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on a massive scale. And you know that's you just
looking for that one song to change your life, for
that one opportunity where right, I don't know, I can
steal all of everybody else's fans.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Watch I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So we talked about this, but you moved to Nashville,
You've been here for a while, you feel like the
shine is still there? What are like the what is
the biggest difference between Nashville and London or.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Like something that's that stuck out to you?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well? I curse a lot, Like I think my favorite
word is like fuck sorry, very old lady like.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But there's definitely a curse word that I said in
front of people and everyone was like.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Oh, what word might that be?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It was the CEU next Tuesday. But it doesn't sound
bad in my accent.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, there's this there's a swaggeress that the it doesn't
sound bad London accent.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It makes it just jazz? Is it up?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Do you know the Sea four Boys, like Australians say
all the time.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
NT.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I don't want to say it because it might have
had people, but yeah, that's the biggest thing. And I
didn't realize that that was such a bad word here.
And it's funny like the meanings that people give words.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
It is because if you.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Start saying like a word, even my name, it kind
of loses its meaning. You're like desensitized to it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But yeah that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, how do you how deep do you want
to go? Like there's lots of differences.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I mean, look this is I mean, this is this
your podcast as much of his mine, So you tell me,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Like I it's it's really strange to me even still
that like I've been coming here for so many years,
but when I go to like a restaurant and it's
like no guns, and I'm like that always, like is
just like still going to be new to me because
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it's just we don't have that in England, you know,
we don't have any of that. And just seeing people
walk around without or like going into studios and it
firearms just on the side, I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like, oh, sure that's he that's that probably different. It's
probably a culture shock for you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, definitely. And I'm not I'm not judging it, like whatever,
but I would say that was like one of the
things that is a culturally very different just I speak
in sometimes slang, so I'd be like, hey, do you
want out from the shop? And people are like, what
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do you want out from the shop? But out and
now means out means anything and now means nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So I thought in Yorkshire, so I would have thought
you saying do you want to leave the shop?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Do you want out of the shop, I'd be like, oh, yeah,
let's go. Where are we going? We're going to another bar?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah. But I mean it works both wis because my
best friend Latavious Molzak, who plays for Meghan Patrick, He'll
come out with.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Some slang and I'm like, how we get here? I'm like, Donna,
it was like what do you think I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm like, and I'll say something completely different and he's
like no, no, I'm like, I'm not cool enough to
be cool, Like yeah, so I get it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Well, look we welcome you with open arm, thank you, Okay,
I'm happy to here, happy that you got to play
the opery, you put out some new music.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's all it's all good.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I want to like you talked about this pop country thing,
like you say you want to create art. Just that's
that's yours twenty could be country, could be pop, whatever
it is, Like, like how did how did how did
that start for you?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Like how did you fall in love with music in
the first place?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You know?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Like, so I the headlines of my life.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I have been on stage since I've been four years old,
told a little drama queen. I think one of the
reasons actually I am so driven is because my relationship
with my dad was not that great. He was always
like coming in, going, and I think I'm the only
way I would get validation or like approval is like
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when I like performed, or he would like show me
off to his friends. So for me, I think like
that is one of the reasons why I am so
Like if you tell me now, I am going to
show you and I it will kill me.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I will not give up, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm like so been on stage since something four years old,
never knew anybody in the music industry on my dad's
side of the family are all Gypsies romany Gypsies. Really
that was like a whole different way of life growing
up because my mum is a Gorgea, which means non travelers.
So the Gypsies have their own language called Rumness. So
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trying to explain to somebody what that community is like,
it's it reminds me a lot of Nashville, to be honest,
Like a lot of them, especially the women, it's very
like conservative.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
They believe, well.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
The woman's place is in the home and usually get
married like at nineteen and have babies and that's it.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
And don't yeah in it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But I'm like, there's like fourteen of my cousins. I
think I'm the only person that's not married. In fact,
me and my little brother were the only people that
are not married. So there's a lot. You know, my
sister in Laura is related to Tyson Fury. Like it's
just like a massive community, but it doesn't it's like
in your blood so like if you're born into it.
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So there was just like a synergy between Nashville and
I can't really explain it. A lot of them do
listen to country music as well, so that's kind of
how I got into like just great storytelling, like I
was obsessed with. I got a very eclectic taste in music,
did a lot of musical theater. Was a backing singer
and backing dancer for people like Pharrell and Robin Thick
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put Michael Bublain.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like anything that. I was always taught that.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
The more strings you had to your bow, the more
you would work. So I tried to sing, dance and act.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Were you singing? Were you singing for and for hour?
Were you just dancing?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well they would come and we do like the bv's
and then like the dancers, so we do all their
like Radio one promo. But I was on shows like
Britain's Got Talent as a Dancer or You Strictly Come Dancing,
which is dancing with the.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Stars, and like you will find me every.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Tuesday down at Hong Kong Tuesdays americanly because I'm.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Obsessed with Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I would love to go with you.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Oh tonight, let's go.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I've do I'm not a dancer, but maybe you could teach.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Honestly awesome And something that I love about that is
like nobody's on the phone, everybody's present, and it's the
only place I can go in Nashville where a guy
can ask you to dance and it's not creepy, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
People are just there.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's like can I get your drinks?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like yeah, yeah, so did all that, Like just had
just seen every part of like the industry. And then
I was in a musical theater show called Rock of
Ages and the lead in that was like, Hey, I
think you should meet with like my music manager. I
was always doing like gigs on the side and through
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like musical theater and acting. I was on a TV show,
did a film with Glenn Close. Like all these things
I think help me as an artist. They've like expanded
my like just the way I see yah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
You know your portfolio.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think it's interesting because like music, it seems to
me like music is just one component of who you
are as an artist, right, Like you're you're a brand,
and you're a dancer, and you got some other stuff.
We're gonna talk about a secure with business stuff. But
and you put out music. You know, I think it's
really cool that you're not just I don't know. There's
a lot of people that just record music and they
put it out and then they go and they sing,
and like, if that's you cool.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It seems like you got a lot of a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Of different like avenues that are all kind of funneled
into what twenty is.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, jack of all trades, Master.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Is there anything you can't do?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Joe Gil and whistle? Can you whistle?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Not well like that?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well but yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I was like my first meeting was with them young
Blood's manager, and he was like, you kind of remind
me of like a young Shanai twin and like and
I was like, that's a huge compliment because like, I
love her. I was obsessed with her growing up. And
then I got into like writing sessions, and then I
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took my first trip to Nashville with a guy called
John Graham, one of my friends who actually wrote like
a few number one songs you know now, and I
just fell in love with it. And I was like,
this is a place where everyone is just like so
about like the work and care about the lyrics. And
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I grew up with people like Billy Joel and Queen.
My first job was with Brian May from Queen, So
I was like all these people and people that I
aspire to be, Like, I think sometimes the industry can,
especially for artists and creatives, like way on your soul,
because it's not fair.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Life is not fair.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's full of bullshit and politics. And I'm such a
true seeker and I'm like, well tell me why, tell
me why don't fit your criteria? Tell me why, like
you know, and I value myself, so I will. You
can never blame an artist for like fighting for themselves
or forwarding their career.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
And I'm all about that, especially in.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
This town where females are kind of overlooked, and it's
really I want to see more of that. I like,
and I love supporting women because I feel like if
you win, I win, you know, like it's awesome. There's
nothing like female friendships and I've got a lot of
them here and this is just so inspiring. But yeah,
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I just I kind of feel like Nashville is the
place to be if you want to be like respected
as a songwriter. And that's kind of the thing, like
I want people to remember as well, like my storytelling,
I guess, and I think they're great storytellers.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think there's a lot of history with the songwriting here,
and I think that the truth is oftentimes coming down
in country music, which is why, you know, people come
here to be seasoned songwriters and you can actually make
a career as just a songwriter here in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It's definitely a little harder, but.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Currently looking for a publishing deal, right If anyone is
watching this, watching you know, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously,
like I just I love how there's so many avenues
you can go down now, like with like TikTok and yeah,
just like putting out music yourself and like so much
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you can do for yourself. But within that, it's also
like when you don't get a certain amount of streams
or you don't get a certain amount of views, like
you take it personally because you're like, well, I.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Spent five hours. I could have flown home in the time.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That I you know, yes, it takes that damn long.
Do you look at the numbers a lot?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I think and also this is just a message
for the industry. Don't look, don't listen to music with
your eyes. I'm sick of it. And what I mean
by that is like they just watch the numbers like this.
I see people and I think, oh my god, you're
so talented, and like I don't get it, Like why
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you don't.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well you don't have that pop Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well yeah, nobody cares until somebody cares and then everybody cares.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
So right, that's just.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
How I am going to sound like such a whiny
bit on this podcast.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I know, I'm just like super passionate about no.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Look, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I think that's I think there's the crazy don't sound
like you know, you know, I didn't say that. You
don't sound like the calig girl that you did earlier.
Oh my god, I think I think you bring up
some good points. I think there's a lot of there's
a lot of flexibility that you can do, you know,
with social media today's world, where you can make a
career for yourself and fortunately, gah, there's some people that
look at the numbers and that's part because it's a
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business and you got to make money. But you said
something earlier that find very interesting. You know, it's a
good thing. You said that you are your own manager.
You don't have a manager. Huh, But you're clearly seasoned
and successful enough to have a manager.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Why have you not taken a manager?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I don't know. I get arrested apparently.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, I've taken a few meetings, worked with a couple
of people and it just hasn't been like the right fit.
I think a lot of managers these days just speaking honestly,
and it's not just like me, like I've got a
lot of stuff going on, and I'm really proud of
the fact that we got the opry and it was
like people like Jamie Johnson and head of CMT Leslie
(20:42):
from that was like you have to see this go
and they were like.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Oh yeah, we love twenty.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, this is like very well deserved, Like this should
have been done ages ago because I was signed to
BBR and then got dropped last year.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I don't know, I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I think most managers want an easy ride, if I'm
being honest, I think like people do. Look at the
numbers and it is call it's called music business, and
I think it's so odd being independent.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
You have to work.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm committed to be an artist, Like I wake up
every day and I'm like, I'm doing this time, posting
three times a day, and I think, like just being
consistent and not giving up and something will happen. But
it takes time to find that team and not only
that five people that like really believe even when things
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are not going well, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, they're gonna stick it out.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, Like, and it's a lot of energy. Like I'm
manage an artist as well, a girl called Sabina. She's
got like one point two million followers on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
She's like a superstar. She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So you're an artist, you're an artist, you don't have
a manager, but you are also managing another artist.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Yeah, because I know how to do it. But I
just did join up with.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
A management company called Grumpy Management, a Sharan's company. Like
a guy that's part of that who manages a girl
called griff Delian Blake, who we're kind of working together
with her and she's just like she's so young and
she's amazing and voice is incredible.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I don't know, I just love to see people do well.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think, like the biggest my biggest fear for myself
and I try not to live in fear, but like,
I just want to fulfill my potential, my full potential.
I think that's the saddest thing when people don't fufill
the potential. Because we've only got one life. We're only
here for a minute, so you best believe I mean,
I am coming in and I'm causing positive disruption, and
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you are going to know my name, and you're going
to know that I'm passionate and i want to work
and I'm putting in the work and i want.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
To help pull the people.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I feel like the more that I am of service
to other people, it comes back tenfold. Like I run
a nonprofit called I Don't Women because I was so
horrified at like how much how little like women were highlighted.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Because it's a genre over there.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It doesn't really happen like you're either played on radio
one or Radio two, and it's just about great music.
And that's the way that I kind of see music.
And probably because I'm international and I just have a
different mindset when it comes to that. So yeah, I'm
all about supporting each other because I think it's the
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biggest misconception that we're not all connected.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I think I think collaboration is so important, not just
in the music industry, but in any business and just
in life in general. I mean, as relationships really do
lead to success. And I think I love to see
your confidence. I'd love to see your support of other women,
and I love the fact you are an artist and
also managing another artist because you just believe in them
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so much and you're like, it's either me or if
it's not me, I want to be a part of
the team that it is, which I think is super cool.
You did mention something that I do want to talk about.
I know, a woman Collective. Yeah, can you for those
that maybe don't know talk about because you're again you're
an artist, you're an artist manager, and you are a
business owner. The resume just goes on. But this is
(24:26):
a very important organization. I know, Women Collective? What is it?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So? I know? Women was originally set up because I
wanted to support women and like just highlight them, but
I wanted men to be included. So like my man
thing was like in the pandemic, I've seeing a lot
of people struggle, and hey, I'm not against labels, like whatever.
I feel like half of them in those teams they
(24:52):
are understofft and they have it hard themselves. But it
really kind of got to me because people I knew
a couple of people that committed suicide that were artists,
and I was like, this is so sad. They didn't
they were signed and they don't have any like support
of their labels, and like these people were sat at
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home behind a desk, still getting paid. We weren't being
able to on the road. And BMG that I was
with at the time, they had an assistance program put
in place for staff and we wasn't considered staff. So
I wanted to try and standardize mental health therapy within
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labels and publishing deals. So we did like a BBC documentary,
We're in Forbes magazine and I actually called out BMG.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
I am so ballsy.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I don't know why I did this, but I actually
didn't call them out like the reporter asked me and
I answered honestly. I was like, she was like, do
you feel they could be more support? And I'm like,
they can always be more support. And they were really
annoyed that because they felt like it was a direct
attack and I was like, but it's not.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
But they they changed it after that. Yeah, they changed it.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And they provided free mental health therapy, which good on them.
And then every and I mean I was on every label.
I was like, hey, one is what have you got
in place? Like I was, how do you not stop? Like?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
But it kind of I rubbed people up the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I do and that's like annoying because my heart's in
the right place, but I cannot stand injustice. And because
I'm an artist and I feel so much for people
and I see people struggling on this.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Side of stuff, Like I write like press.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Releases from my friends that that you know, they're like,
can you help me with this? I'm like, shure because
I know how hard it is. So I just have
a template and I'm like, fill out this. It just
it really got to me that people weren't doing it enough.
And like the business people, they have a different brain
to us. And I'm like, you are making a difference
to somebody's life, because my career is not just my career,
(27:06):
it's my whole life. So what you do every day,
whether you think you just send it an email or
you're pitching a song, you make a difference to my life.
And I feel like that to me is my model.
Like I figure like I'm like a little pebble and
I throw myself into the lake every day and I
make ripples, and those ripples can be the positive or
they can be negative. And nobody gives a shit. Nobody
(27:28):
gives a shit how much money you earn they're not
gonna give a shit about like how many awards you win.
They're only gonna ever remember how you made them feel.
And like, I think that's an incredible gift that we've
all got every day to make somebody feel, make their
day or make them smile or help them. So yeah,
I don't know. That's why I do it because I
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see it make a difference in people's lives.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, no, I'm I'm sorry, I'm lost speech just because
I agree. I agree, and I think it's clear how
passionate you are about supporting other people. No, it's cool,
I know, like, don't get emotional on these things. Like
fuck yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Am though, because like I don't know, I do, Like.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think we're all here's like everyone's got their own
mess and sometimes, like I heard this quote, it's like
you only the amount of peace that you have in
your life is the amount of truth that you're willing
to accept about yourself.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
And I think I know all my.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Shit, like people, I'm the type of person that people
tell their full life story too in five seconds, because
I'm like, hey, I'm a mess, Come be a mess
with me. And we're all so busy. I think we're
all cleaning up our mess all the time. But sometimes
like people like to focus on other people's mess because
they don't want to look at themselves.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
So I think, like the more that I'm growing.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm I just I don't know, I just have like
a lot of compassion for people and understanding more than
I ever did, even people that have hurt me. Really weirdly,
I don't know how it's like spiritual you are, but
I just think about this because this could actually like
if you if somebody's really hurt you and you can't
(29:09):
let it go, just think about this, because this changed
my mindset. So I was watching this video and it said,
like okay, like on the spiritual realm, like you like,
life's a big adventure, it's the game, the big game.
You come down here, you pick your player, and like
you decide, like your soule family are here and they
they come in.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
And out your life.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
But the people that hurt you in life are actually
the people that love you the most, have part of
your soul family because they're they're the people that are
meant to like make you grow the most. And like
I mean, who knows, I don't know, I'll tell you
after I'm dead, but like it just made me like
have complete compassion and forgiveness for those that have like,
(29:57):
don't be wrong, especially my ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I knew that there had to have your relationship involved
with this. I will say I do agree with you
that I think sometimes people hurt you and we get
close minded and we think that, well, why the hell
do they do that? You know that we don't see
the bigger picture, and a lot of times that stuff
leads to growth. I think you're an incredibly forgiving person,
and I think that you are able to forgive people,
(30:23):
maybe easier than I or some other people can, but
I do appreciate that because my mindset is definitely definitely
adjusted and I acknowledge what you're saying. And I am somebody.
My problem is I'm somebody where like if you if
you cross me and like do me, I'm like, it's
more it's kind of like I'm just like, if you
(30:43):
cross me, I'm going to do what I can bury
you right, your psycho, I don't know. That's just how
I've always been wired. And I will say in this industry,
I have noticed more people have both helped me and
hurt me and I have tried to lead with a
little bit more compassion, So I do get what you're saying.
(31:05):
It's maybe a little bit harder for me to just
like kumbai ya with everyone.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Well it's not that you don't have to forget, but
it's just it made me feel like kind of different
about people.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I was like, okay, because hurt people hurt.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
People, and heal people heal people, and I think we
both play that player in somebody else's life. We've all
hurt people, we're all like healing people, and I think
you just once you know.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Better, you do better.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And then going back to that saying like nobody's ever
hurt you. Nobody's ever hurt you your entire life. It's
you and your brain. So like, if you can't control
your thoughts, you're always going to be a victim to
the world.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And like other people, Hey guys, we're back having such
a great chat right now at twenty I've loved this.
I had to take in emotional leave because we were
talking about some deep.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Shit you did get I still didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I did get emotional, and no one has really made
me that emotional on this podcast so far. So you
get an award for making me have to go reach
for some tissues. But I want to talk about this EP.
So you said to me that it's like two parts, right,
because it's called blue.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Hour after dark after dark?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, so what is it morning after? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's like so blue hour is it happens twice a day,
just after the sun goes down and just before the
son comes up. So I thought that was like a
really good concept for like a breakup, like because it
was so basically.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
A guy.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So my boyfriend of ten years, I don't know what
I'm talking about this ten years, ten and a half years,
decided to email me and break up with me on
email and block me on everything, phoned. My sister didn't
for me and has never spoken to me since. And
that was a year ago. Safe to say, I lost
(33:01):
my mind obviously, like you would do. Yeah, so I
pretty much know whatever lie By the way, blacked out
from October to February. I was on tour at the time,
and this is where all this sad girl ship EP
comes from. So I was like, the nights were the
worst for me. So I was like, this would be
(33:23):
a really cool concept to like show the kind of
a breakup within a night and like all the emotions
that you go through. So like there's like Blue Hour,
which is a title track Lonely Long, which is quite imperent.
It's like would be Lonely Long, dude, look at me?
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But I mean, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Such a catch, you know, just like Earl is the
most psychotic song that you've ever ever heard in your
entire life, just like her, And there is a really
good story to that how I wrote that, But we'll
come back to that the Whale of Jew and then
bad Man that's on the radio on CUMOS Radio.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah it's hard. That's huge, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So that was like the six songs, and then I'm
about to drop Blue Christmas, which is Christmas songs, four
originals on that and then Blue Hour after Dawn will
feed into January the January Blues. Because I'm a I'm
a concept person and like I love art, like I'm
(34:29):
not like a single person. I mean I'm single, but
like you know, like drop a single drop, a single drop.
I'm like, I want like a concept something that the
listener can like, I want them to get to know
me and my story.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
And that's kind of what I did with my last EP,
Welcome to the club.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Even all the videos, like I directed all of them, and.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
They it was basically like this.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I would go into the videos were like would go
sit with a therapist and we talk about a different issue,
and then it would lead into the music videos.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
So it was like a short film.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
That's really cool. I think more short films seem to
happen in music.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, period, No, absolutely, I mean I would do that
all day a long. But that one of the British
short film Awats, which is awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Heck, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
And then I got dropped, so.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That was.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Still check it out at least, right it's online.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, it's online.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
You should go check it out. The one of the
leads is from doctor Who. Do you have that show
over here?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I know what you're talking. Yeah, it's probably not as popular,
but it's a show.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I have Blue Hour and then I have Happy Hour,
which is like basically all you towards the end of
the summer next year. Like I don't know, I just
like love shit like that.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I love I love that you're thinking and concepts.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know, there's a reason why we've moved to singles,
which we don't need to get into. But I think
it's cool that you're coming from from a true art standpoint.
That's a great concept too. I'm pumped about it. So
you can hear the first half of it. Second half
is coming out after Christmas. I assume maybe you'll be
on tour playing some of these songs, at.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Least the going back home for Christmas, like a home
country Christmas with twenty show nice and then yeah, hoping
to get out on the road in America because I've
never told here, so I just want somebody to take
me on til I'm really good for comedy morale.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Guys, this is my pitch.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Give him, give them the thirty second elevator.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You want to take me on tour? This is me
twenty good for comedy morale. Yeah, great songs. In my
personal opinion, i'd be.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Byas, but you know it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Hey, we got to do a quick segment because we
have some friends in the area. They make really cool
jackets and shoes and they have this little jacket, a
little pull over because it getting a little cold outside.
Here's the deal, freezing sixty seconds on the clock. I'm
gonna rapid fire question and you just got to whatever
comes to your mind.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Okay, why are you scared?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I feel like you've been scared of this whole podcast.
Now you're scared.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I don't like the unknown.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
We're going to enter into the unknown. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Okay, all right, I'm sorry, but wind up that clock,
Maddie producer Matty sixty seconds on the clock. Here we go,
dream venue to play, oh, red Rocks, dream person to
collaborate with?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Oh, this is really odd, Tolly.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Potter, the great answer? What are you a talker or
a texter talker?
Speaker 5 (37:21):
I love a phone call?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
You love a phone call. I like that you are
a talker?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Boots? What's your favorite type of boot?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Um?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Someone like this or like Doc Martin's or something.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, there you go. Celebrity crush.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I don't know. I actually have a bit of a thing.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
For Zack Bryan, you and Bereanna chicken fry. Oh man,
you can come steal that man's.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
But no, probably, I don't know. I like some of
the oldies broad Pit.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, what is it about Pitt?
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I don't know, it's just but like young Pitt.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
You know you like young pitting on old I understand.
What's your favorite fast food place?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Oh here, Oh, do you have Nando's here? Now it's
like a chicken place.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
We have Fort's called Raising Canes or.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Chick fil a, Chick fil A.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Then yeah, we'll go with fil A. There you go.
What's uh? What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Turned around? Every now and then I get a little
bit then a dream of something. Who I'm down at
Miss Kelly?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Why do I have a feeling You're going to Miss
Kelly tonight to play that?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Are you real? Uh?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
That wasn't bad, Matt. We hit sixty seconds there, Matt.
Matt gives the thumbs up. That was sixty seconds presented
by Area. Tell me about the story. We got like
two minutes left, So what's good?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So obviously after you broke up with me, I needed
a new life, and just like oh, I was very angry.
So in the whole video like I kill my husband,
the tagline is it's only legal to kill you and
all of my songs. Luckily, it's legal to kill you
in all my songs. So when he broke up with me,
I was playing a show with cart Faith and Robin Ottaline,
(39:08):
and these two were like the devil and angel on
my shoulder, like Robin was like, don't go to the house.
Carl was like, definitely, go to the house.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
So I went to the house. I didn't have my
key at the time.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
And he lived in like a three block of like
there's like flat one, flat two, flat three, and he's
in number two.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
So I buzz. It's like a communal area. He's not
answering me.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
And I'm for sure, like there's somebody else, Like why
would you spew it with somebody like that after ten
years not even a de like just a conversation would
have been nice. So he doesn't answer me. So I
buzzed the neighbors. It's all about eleven o'clock at.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Night, and so they let me in and I'm like, I.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Knock at his door and I'm listening at the door
and I'm like, there's.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Definitely somebody in there. There's definitely somebody here.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And then I see this window on the landing and
I'm like, okay, I'm going to crawl. So I thought
that this was a good idea to crawl out.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Of the window. You started crawling out of the window,
climb onto the roof.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I was hanging off a drain pipe and I shone
a torch into his bedroom window.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Yes, I went full psychomode.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Anyway, the police got called, but they didn't turn up
in time because I got bored. I was like, he's
not in whatever. I go home to my mum's up north,
so I'm not in London. I'm not at my house.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
So I go home and.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
My flatmate's like, hey, twin, there's like four non uniformed
police officers at the door.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
They've been banging at the door.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
They basically tell my flatmate and my neighbor that I
have been circulated around the Metropolitan London Police as wanted.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I was actually wanted by.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
The London Police, so I had to turn up to
like the police station. It was a whole I'm I'm here,
been in trouble with the police in my entire life.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I let you go.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
They were like, yeah, they just.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Asked me a few questions. But do you think the
same person would crawl on a roof? And I was like,
no comment, no comment. Actually, I don't know whether I
can get in trouble for this. Well, I'm in a
different country, so.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Right, I don't know if the I don't know if
the law transcends from.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The case has been closed anywhere. They didn't have anything
on me.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, of course. Now unbelievable. Oh man, what a way
to end this.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm basically never getting another day ever again, because everyone's
just going to think I'm a psychiler.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I think you might. I think you might have. You
got a whole new country to explore people. Right. They
say there's other fish in the sea, I mean there's
literally other fish over the sea. Check out twenty's music
now it is out.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Super pumped to meet you. I love that you're here
in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
You're bringing a new flavor to the town certainly, and
I just am looking forward to hearing more music from you,
seeing you on tour, and continue under crush it.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
British version, British version, British Invasion has arrived.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
British Invasion has arrived. We'll see y'all next week.
Actually, I don't know whether I can get in trouble
for this. Well, I'm in a different country.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So what is up, guys?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Chris Ferger here on the six one to five House podcast.
I'm really excited because Nashville is music city. It's a
melting pot of people from all parts of the country,
all parts of the world. And I have a really
special guest on today, originally from overseas in London, has
moved to Nashville, made her Grand Old Hoppry debut and
(00:39):
has Blue Hour in parentheses after Dark the ep out.
I'm told there might be like a part two hintin Twinkquink,
But she's seriously so talented and expanding the genre of
country music. I want to talk all about this. I
want to talk about the new music. Please welcome twenty
what's up?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
How you doing.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
It's good to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It is so good to see.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
As soon as you walk in, I was like, we're
going to get along just fine. You got an awesome energy.
This is going to be a great app and your
accent really is just it's something else.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah. Yeah, we might need some titles for.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This, right, should we find some subtitles? Barring met the accent.
I wish I had an accent. That's a problem.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Do you have an accent, though?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I do?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
To you?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
To me, yeah, to you, I.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Guess everyone has an accent.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
When you put it like that, you've got like a
really lovely tone to you speaking voice.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'll take the tone.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I just feel like it's so normal and you got
you got so much spice, like just coming coming from
all different angles here, y'all.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I can talk like this too, So I love y'all's accent.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
That's not bad.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Do you ever intertwine that with your normal voice, because
that could make for like something where people go WHOA.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, I've done it in like bars before and people
are like, wait, where are you from? And I'm like,
I'm from England and they're like, no, you're not, you know,
you just put it on. I'm like, no, I'm actually
from England. That could just do a really good south
In accent. Yeah, because I do it so often because
I like, I'm an actress as well, and I kind
(02:06):
of like used to impersonate a.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Lot of people.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
But I've been doing this with an accent so much
that somebody asked me to do like just a standard
American the other day, and I was like, I actually
don't think I could do it anymore. I might be
able to do a Cali girl, but it's funny for me.
Like there's like New York. So then Cali Girl. I
was going to ask, can we play a game?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, I'm going to choose a region of the US,
and I want to see what your accent would be.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So we're going to start with Cali girl.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh my god, Like my hair today is just I
don't know, like it's just not working.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I hate it. That was good, was syday. She's a
total bit.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
What about New York? It's like more pretentious? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Can I have a couple of coffee? Please?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
But there you go?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, right, and then give me give me like like Alabama, Georgia, like.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Like southern like y'all, I am so pleased to be here.
Bless your heart for listening to me today. I just
I just love this accent so much. This is like
my Mary Jane.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
So you, I mean, I can tell that you've been
an actress. Those are good. I think I like the
Cali Girl. There's something there's a little a little spice
in that. But she's a bitch, yeah she is. But
I do. I have to say, all of those accents
are great.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Your your your natural voice is fantastic, both talking and
also singing, because that's what you do.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Hey, so when did you move?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
April? April?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So it's been how many months? Eight months? No, nine months.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
What's the first reaction of Nashville from moving.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, I've been coming here like on and off for
like seven years, and so I kind of knew what
to expect anywhere.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
And I was kind of worried that because.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Nashville when I first came, has such a shine to it.
It's like such a great energy and like the community
and new people are like, hey, like this meet this person,
and you just and I'm such a social butterfly.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
There's people here that like, how do you know?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Everyone just go out with you and you know everyone,
And I'm like, I think it's just because I really
enjoy people.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I like, I love I'm not like a small talk person.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I like to get to the root of somebody, you know,
like give me all your triggers, your traumas. And I
think like mainly Red Door is like where I've met
most people.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
But yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Like I've had my fair share of the one I
am read door conversations.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, And also I just like, I think I'm like
completely myself. So I think Nashville sometimes challenges that a
little bit because the the industry and country genre whatever.
I don't really see genre that much. I just love
I just love any music and I just love writing.
(05:10):
So moving here, I just wanted to be the best
that I could possibly be and surround myself for the best.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
But for the most part, I was just kind.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Of worried that it would lose it shine or I'd
feel like because when I used to come into town,
I'd be like, I've got five days. Who wants to write?
Like that's it, none of this bullshit. We're from publishers Like, hey,
I'm trying to book a right and they're like, yes,
so we've got January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I'm like, which does happen?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
It really happens, And I'm like, no, that's what.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Honestly, there's so many gatekeepers within people's teams that if
you actually speak to the artists, isn't there there to
you know, navigate that kind of stuff. But like, I
manage myself currently, which is a whole different thing. But
I also manage another artist. And I think because I've
grown up in the entertainment industry, it's like same shit,
(06:01):
different smele like, it's all the same.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It's it can be very political.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You just got to keep going and if you say
no to me, it's just an early form of yes,
like because I'll just keep coming back, like I'll be
so good you conagnore me.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I love that, you know, we were talking a bit
earlier about that, because there are some people that struggle
with rejection, and if you're.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
In the music industry, I do struggle with I see.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I love that because there are people that like pack
up and go home, or they're like, oh, sopress, I
got to know, I gotta go home, Like legitimately, can
I go home?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Literally will refuse not to go home. I did say
I wouldn't go home until I played the Opry and
thank you card, I can go home for Christmas because
it's happened and it was incredible in such a moment,
and that kind of like me.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I think some brownie points within the industry, you.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Know, absolutely to write a passage.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Because they're like, who is this girl?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
This brit country, she does country, She's just kind of country,
kind of pop like what is she? And I all
I want from people is to hear a song as
a twenty song, you know, because I love I don't know,
I just I want to do great work. I love
any form of art like even this, Like I just
love connecting with people and I want to do that
(07:24):
on a massive scale. And you know that's you just
looking for that one song to change your life, for
that one opportunity where right, I don't know, I can
steal all of everybody else's fans.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Watch I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So we talked about this, but you moved to Nashville,
You've been here for a while, you feel like the
shine is still there? What are like the what is
the biggest difference between Nashville and London or.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Like something that's that stuck out to you?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well? I curse a lot, Like I think my favorite
word is like fuck sorry, very old lady like.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But there's definitely a curse word that I said in
front of people and everyone was like.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Oh, what word might that be?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It was the CEU next Tuesday. But it doesn't sound
bad in my accent.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, there's this there's a swaggeress that the it doesn't
sound bad London accent.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It makes it just jazz? Is it up?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Do you know the Sea four Boys, like Australians say
all the time.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
NT.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I don't want to say it because it might have
had people, but yeah, that's the biggest thing. And I
didn't realize that that was such a bad word here.
And it's funny like the meanings that people give words.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
It is because if you.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Start saying like a word, even my name, it kind
of loses its meaning. You're like desensitized to it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But yeah that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, how do you how deep do you want
to go? Like there's lots of differences.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I mean, look this is I mean, this is this
your podcast as much of his mine, So you tell me,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Like I it's it's really strange to me even still
that like I've been coming here for so many years,
but when I go to like a restaurant and it's
like no guns, and I'm like that always, like is
just like still going to be new to me because
(09:25):
it's just we don't have that in England, you know,
we don't have any of that. And just seeing people
walk around without or like going into studios and it
firearms just on the side, I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like, oh, sure that's he that's that probably different. It's
probably a culture shock for you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, definitely. And I'm not I'm not judging it, like whatever,
but I would say that was like one of the
things that is a culturally very different just I speak
in sometimes slang, so I'd be like, hey, do you
want out from the shop? And people are like, what
(10:03):
do you want out from the shop? But out and
now means out means anything and now means nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So I thought in Yorkshire, so I would have thought
you saying do you want to leave the shop?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Do you want out of the shop, I'd be like, oh, yeah,
let's go. Where are we going? We're going to another bar?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah. But I mean it works both wis because my
best friend Latavious Molzak, who plays for Meghan Patrick, He'll
come out with.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Some slang and I'm like, how we get here? I'm like, Donna,
it was like what do you think I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I'm like, and I'll say something completely different and he's
like no, no, I'm like, I'm not cool enough to
be cool, Like yeah, so I get it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Well, look we welcome you with open arm, thank you, Okay,
I'm happy to here, happy that you got to play
the opery, you put out some new music.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's all it's all good.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I want to like you talked about this pop country thing,
like you say you want to create art. Just that's
that's yours twenty could be country, could be pop, whatever
it is, Like, like how did how did how did
that start for you?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Like how did you fall in love with music in
the first place?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You know?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Like, so I the headlines of my life.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I have been on stage since I've been four years old,
told a little drama queen. I think one of the
reasons actually I am so driven is because my relationship
with my dad was not that great. He was always
like coming in, going, and I think I'm the only
way I would get validation or like approval is like
(11:42):
when I like performed, or he would like show me
off to his friends. So for me, I think like
that is one of the reasons why I am so
Like if you tell me now, I am going to
show you and I it will kill me.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I will not give up, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm like so been on stage since something four years old,
never knew anybody in the music industry on my dad's
side of the family are all Gypsies romany Gypsies. Really
that was like a whole different way of life growing
up because my mum is a Gorgea, which means non travelers.
So the Gypsies have their own language called Rumness. So
(12:21):
trying to explain to somebody what that community is like,
it's it reminds me a lot of Nashville, to be honest,
Like a lot of them, especially the women, it's very
like conservative.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
They believe, well.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
The woman's place is in the home and usually get
married like at nineteen and have babies and that's it.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
And don't yeah in it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But I'm like, there's like fourteen of my cousins. I
think I'm the only person that's not married. In fact,
me and my little brother were the only people that
are not married. So there's a lot. You know, my
sister in Laura is related to Tyson Fury. Like it's
just like a massive community, but it doesn't it's like
in your blood so like if you're born into it.
(13:10):
So there was just like a synergy between Nashville and
I can't really explain it. A lot of them do
listen to country music as well, so that's kind of
how I got into like just great storytelling, like I
was obsessed with. I got a very eclectic taste in music,
did a lot of musical theater. Was a backing singer
and backing dancer for people like Pharrell and Robin Thick
(13:31):
put Michael Bublain.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like anything that. I was always taught that.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
The more strings you had to your bow, the more
you would work. So I tried to sing, dance and act.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Were you singing? Were you singing for and for hour?
Were you just dancing?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well they would come and we do like the bv's
and then like the dancers, so we do all their
like Radio one promo. But I was on shows like
Britain's Got Talent as a Dancer or You Strictly Come Dancing,
which is dancing with the.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Stars, and like you will find me every.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Tuesday down at Hong Kong Tuesdays americanly because I'm.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Obsessed with Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I would love to go with you.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Oh tonight, let's go.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I've do I'm not a dancer, but maybe you could teach.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Honestly awesome And something that I love about that is
like nobody's on the phone, everybody's present, and it's the
only place I can go in Nashville where a guy
can ask you to dance and it's not creepy, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
People are just there.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's like can I get your drinks?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like yeah, yeah, so did all that, Like just had
just seen every part of like the industry. And then
I was in a musical theater show called Rock of
Ages and the lead in that was like, Hey, I
think you should meet with like my music manager. I
was always doing like gigs on the side and through
(14:56):
like musical theater and acting. I was on a TV show,
did a film with Glenn Close. Like all these things
I think help me as an artist. They've like expanded
my like just the way I see yah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
You know your portfolio.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think it's interesting because like music, it seems to
me like music is just one component of who you
are as an artist, right, Like you're you're a brand,
and you're a dancer, and you got some other stuff.
We're gonna talk about a secure with business stuff. But
and you put out music. You know, I think it's
really cool that you're not just I don't know. There's
a lot of people that just record music and they
put it out and then they go and they sing,
and like, if that's you cool.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It seems like you got a lot of a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Of different like avenues that are all kind of funneled
into what twenty is.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, jack of all trades, Master.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Is there anything you can't do?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Joe Gil and whistle? Can you whistle?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Not well like that?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well but yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I was like my first meeting was with them young
Blood's manager, and he was like, you kind of remind
me of like a young Shanai twin and like and
I was like, that's a huge compliment because like, I
love her. I was obsessed with her growing up. And
then I got into like writing sessions, and then I
(16:12):
took my first trip to Nashville with a guy called
John Graham, one of my friends who actually wrote like
a few number one songs you know now, and I
just fell in love with it. And I was like,
this is a place where everyone is just like so
about like the work and care about the lyrics. And
(16:36):
I grew up with people like Billy Joel and Queen.
My first job was with Brian May from Queen, So
I was like all these people and people that I
aspire to be, Like, I think sometimes the industry can,
especially for artists and creatives, like way on your soul,
because it's not fair.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Life is not fair.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's full of bullshit and politics. And I'm such a
true seeker and I'm like, well tell me why, tell
me why don't fit your criteria? Tell me why, like
you know, and I value myself, so I will. You
can never blame an artist for like fighting for themselves
or forwarding their career.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
And I'm all about that, especially in.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
This town where females are kind of overlooked, and it's
really I want to see more of that. I like,
and I love supporting women because I feel like if
you win, I win, you know, like it's awesome. There's
nothing like female friendships and I've got a lot of
them here and this is just so inspiring. But yeah,
(17:40):
I just I kind of feel like Nashville is the
place to be if you want to be like respected
as a songwriter. And that's kind of the thing, like
I want people to remember as well, like my storytelling,
I guess, and I think they're great storytellers.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I think there's a lot of history with the songwriting here,
and I think that the truth is oftentimes coming down
in country music, which is why, you know, people come
here to be seasoned songwriters and you can actually make
a career as just a songwriter here in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It's definitely a little harder, but.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Currently looking for a publishing deal, right If anyone is
watching this, watching you know, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously,
like I just I love how there's so many avenues
you can go down now, like with like TikTok and yeah,
just like putting out music yourself and like so much
(18:35):
you can do for yourself. But within that, it's also
like when you don't get a certain amount of streams
or you don't get a certain amount of views, like
you take it personally because you're like, well, I.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Spent five hours. I could have flown home in the time.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That I you know, yes, it takes that damn long.
Do you look at the numbers a lot?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I think and also this is just a message
for the industry. Don't look, don't listen to music with
your eyes. I'm sick of it. And what I mean
by that is like they just watch the numbers like this.
I see people and I think, oh my god, you're
so talented, and like I don't get it, Like why
(19:17):
you don't.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well you don't have that pop Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well yeah, nobody cares until somebody cares and then everybody cares.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
So right, that's just.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
How I am going to sound like such a whiny
bit on this podcast.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I know, I'm just like super passionate about no.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Look, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I think that's I think there's the crazy don't sound
like you know, you know, I didn't say that. You
don't sound like the calig girl that you did earlier.
Oh my god, I think I think you bring up
some good points. I think there's a lot of there's
a lot of flexibility that you can do, you know,
with social media today's world, where you can make a
career for yourself and fortunately, gah, there's some people that
look at the numbers and that's part because it's a
(19:56):
business and you got to make money. But you said
something earlier that find very interesting. You know, it's a
good thing. You said that you are your own manager.
You don't have a manager. Huh, But you're clearly seasoned
and successful enough to have a manager.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Why have you not taken a manager?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I don't know. I get arrested apparently.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, I've taken a few meetings, worked with a couple
of people and it just hasn't been like the right fit.
I think a lot of managers these days just speaking honestly,
and it's not just like me, like I've got a
lot of stuff going on, and I'm really proud of
the fact that we got the opry and it was
like people like Jamie Johnson and head of CMT Leslie
(20:42):
from that was like you have to see this go
and they were like.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Oh yeah, we love twenty.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, this is like very well deserved, Like this should
have been done ages ago because I was signed to
BBR and then got dropped last year.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I don't know, I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I think most managers want an easy ride, if I'm
being honest, I think like people do. Look at the
numbers and it is call it's called music business, and
I think it's so odd being independent.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
You have to work.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm committed to be an artist, Like I wake up
every day and I'm like, I'm doing this time, posting
three times a day, and I think, like just being
consistent and not giving up and something will happen. But
it takes time to find that team and not only
that five people that like really believe even when things
(21:38):
are not going well, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, they're gonna stick it out.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, Like, and it's a lot of energy. Like I'm
manage an artist as well, a girl called Sabina. She's
got like one point two million followers on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
She's like a superstar. She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
So you're an artist, you're an artist, you don't have
a manager, but you are also managing another artist.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Yeah, because I know how to do it. But I
just did join up with.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
A management company called Grumpy Management, a Sharan's company. Like
a guy that's part of that who manages a girl
called griff Delian Blake, who we're kind of working together
with her and she's just like she's so young and
she's amazing and voice is incredible.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I don't know, I just love to see people do well.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think, like the biggest my biggest fear for myself
and I try not to live in fear, but like,
I just want to fulfill my potential, my full potential.
I think that's the saddest thing when people don't fufill
the potential. Because we've only got one life. We're only
here for a minute, so you best believe I mean,
I am coming in and I'm causing positive disruption, and
(22:50):
you are going to know my name, and you're going
to know that I'm passionate and i want to work
and I'm putting in the work and i want.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
To help pull the people.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I feel like the more that I am of service
to other people, it comes back tenfold. Like I run
a nonprofit called I Don't Women because I was so
horrified at like how much how little like women were highlighted.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Because it's a genre over there.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It doesn't really happen like you're either played on radio
one or Radio two, and it's just about great music.
And that's the way that I kind of see music.
And probably because I'm international and I just have a
different mindset when it comes to that. So yeah, I'm
all about supporting each other because I think it's the
(23:39):
biggest misconception that we're not all connected.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I think I think collaboration is so important, not just
in the music industry, but in any business and just
in life in general. I mean, as relationships really do
lead to success. And I think I love to see
your confidence. I'd love to see your support of other women,
and I love the fact you are an artist and
also managing another artist because you just believe in them
(24:03):
so much and you're like, it's either me or if
it's not me, I want to be a part of
the team that it is, which I think is super cool.
You did mention something that I do want to talk about.
I know, a woman Collective. Yeah, can you for those
that maybe don't know talk about because you're again you're
an artist, you're an artist manager, and you are a
business owner. The resume just goes on. But this is
(24:26):
a very important organization. I know, Women Collective? What is it?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So? I know? Women was originally set up because I
wanted to support women and like just highlight them, but
I wanted men to be included. So like my man
thing was like in the pandemic, I've seeing a lot
of people struggle, and hey, I'm not against labels, like whatever.
I feel like half of them in those teams they
(24:52):
are understofft and they have it hard themselves. But it
really kind of got to me because people I knew
a couple of people that committed suicide that were artists,
and I was like, this is so sad. They didn't
they were signed and they don't have any like support
of their labels, and like these people were sat at
(25:12):
home behind a desk, still getting paid. We weren't being
able to on the road. And BMG that I was
with at the time, they had an assistance program put
in place for staff and we wasn't considered staff. So
I wanted to try and standardize mental health therapy within
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labels and publishing deals. So we did like a BBC documentary,
We're in Forbes magazine and I actually called out BMG.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
I am so ballsy.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I don't know why I did this, but I actually
didn't call them out like the reporter asked me and
I answered honestly. I was like, she was like, do
you feel they could be more support? And I'm like,
they can always be more support. And they were really
annoyed that because they felt like it was a direct
attack and I was like, but it's not.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
But they they changed it after that. Yeah, they changed it.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And they provided free mental health therapy, which good on them.
And then every and I mean I was on every label.
I was like, hey, one is what have you got
in place? Like I was, how do you not stop? Like?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
But it kind of I rubbed people up the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I do and that's like annoying because my heart's in
the right place, but I cannot stand injustice. And because
I'm an artist and I feel so much for people
and I see people struggling on this.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Side of stuff, Like I write like press.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Releases from my friends that that you know, they're like,
can you help me with this? I'm like, shure because
I know how hard it is. So I just have
a template and I'm like, fill out this. It just
it really got to me that people weren't doing it enough.
And like the business people, they have a different brain
to us. And I'm like, you are making a difference
to somebody's life, because my career is not just my career,
(27:06):
it's my whole life. So what you do every day,
whether you think you just send it an email or
you're pitching a song, you make a difference to my life.
And I feel like that to me is my model.
Like I figure like I'm like a little pebble and
I throw myself into the lake every day and I
make ripples, and those ripples can be the positive or
they can be negative. And nobody gives a shit. Nobody
(27:28):
gives a shit how much money you earn they're not
gonna give a shit about like how many awards you win.
They're only gonna ever remember how you made them feel.
And like, I think that's an incredible gift that we've
all got every day to make somebody feel, make their
day or make them smile or help them. So yeah,
I don't know. That's why I do it because I
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see it make a difference in people's lives.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, no, I'm I'm sorry, I'm lost speech just because
I agree. I agree, and I think it's clear how
passionate you are about supporting other people. No, it's cool,
I know, like, don't get emotional on these things. Like
fuck yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Am though, because like I don't know, I do, Like.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think we're all here's like everyone's got their own
mess and sometimes, like I heard this quote, it's like
you only the amount of peace that you have in
your life is the amount of truth that you're willing
to accept about yourself.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
And I think I know all my.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Shit, like people, I'm the type of person that people
tell their full life story too in five seconds, because
I'm like, hey, I'm a mess, Come be a mess
with me. And we're all so busy. I think we're
all cleaning up our mess all the time. But sometimes
like people like to focus on other people's mess because
they don't want to look at themselves.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
So I think, like the more that I'm growing.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm I just I don't know, I just have like
a lot of compassion for people and understanding more than
I ever did, even people that have hurt me. Really weirdly,
I don't know how it's like spiritual you are, but
I just think about this because this could actually like
if you if somebody's really hurt you and you can't
(29:09):
let it go, just think about this, because this changed
my mindset. So I was watching this video and it said,
like okay, like on the spiritual realm, like you like,
life's a big adventure, it's the game, the big game.
You come down here, you pick your player, and like
you decide, like your soule family are here and they
they come in.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
And out your life.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
But the people that hurt you in life are actually
the people that love you the most, have part of
your soul family because they're they're the people that are
meant to like make you grow the most. And like
I mean, who knows, I don't know, I'll tell you
after I'm dead, but like it just made me like
have complete compassion and forgiveness for those that have like,
(29:57):
don't be wrong, especially my ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I knew that there had to have your relationship involved
with this. I will say I do agree with you
that I think sometimes people hurt you and we get
close minded and we think that, well, why the hell
do they do that? You know that we don't see
the bigger picture, and a lot of times that stuff
leads to growth. I think you're an incredibly forgiving person,
and I think that you are able to forgive people,
(30:23):
maybe easier than I or some other people can, but
I do appreciate that because my mindset is definitely definitely
adjusted and I acknowledge what you're saying. And I am somebody.
My problem is I'm somebody where like if you if
you cross me and like do me, I'm like, it's
more it's kind of like I'm just like, if you
(30:43):
cross me, I'm going to do what I can bury
you right, your psycho, I don't know. That's just how
I've always been wired. And I will say in this industry,
I have noticed more people have both helped me and
hurt me and I have tried to lead with a
little bit more compassion, So I do get what you're saying.
(31:05):
It's maybe a little bit harder for me to just
like kumbai ya with everyone.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Well it's not that you don't have to forget, but
it's just it made me feel like kind of different
about people.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I was like, okay, because hurt people hurt.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
People, and heal people heal people, and I think we
both play that player in somebody else's life. We've all
hurt people, we're all like healing people, and I think
you just once you know.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Better, you do better.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And then going back to that saying like nobody's ever
hurt you. Nobody's ever hurt you your entire life. It's
you and your brain. So like, if you can't control
your thoughts, you're always going to be a victim to
the world.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And like other people, Hey guys, we're back having such
a great chat right now at twenty I've loved this.
I had to take in emotional leave because we were
talking about some deep.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Shit you did get I still didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I did get emotional, and no one has really made
me that emotional on this podcast so far. So you
get an award for making me have to go reach
for some tissues. But I want to talk about this EP.
So you said to me that it's like two parts, right,
because it's called blue.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Hour after dark after dark?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, so what is it morning after? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's like so blue hour is it happens twice a day,
just after the sun goes down and just before the
son comes up. So I thought that was like a
really good concept for like a breakup, like because it
was so basically.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
A guy.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So my boyfriend of ten years, I don't know what
I'm talking about this ten years, ten and a half years,
decided to email me and break up with me on
email and block me on everything, phoned. My sister didn't
for me and has never spoken to me since. And
that was a year ago. Safe to say, I lost
(33:01):
my mind obviously, like you would do. Yeah, so I
pretty much know whatever lie By the way, blacked out
from October to February. I was on tour at the time,
and this is where all this sad girl ship EP
comes from. So I was like, the nights were the
worst for me. So I was like, this would be
(33:23):
a really cool concept to like show the kind of
a breakup within a night and like all the emotions
that you go through. So like there's like Blue Hour,
which is a title track Lonely Long, which is quite imperent.
It's like would be Lonely Long, dude, look at me?
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But I mean, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Such a catch, you know, just like Earl is the
most psychotic song that you've ever ever heard in your
entire life, just like her, And there is a really
good story to that how I wrote that, But we'll
come back to that the Whale of Jew and then
bad Man that's on the radio on CUMOS Radio.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah it's hard. That's huge, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So that was like the six songs, and then I'm
about to drop Blue Christmas, which is Christmas songs, four
originals on that and then Blue Hour after Dawn will
feed into January the January Blues. Because I'm a I'm
a concept person and like I love art, like I'm
(34:29):
not like a single person. I mean I'm single, but
like you know, like drop a single drop, a single drop.
I'm like, I want like a concept something that the
listener can like, I want them to get to know
me and my story.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
And that's kind of what I did with my last EP,
Welcome to the club.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Even all the videos, like I directed all of them, and.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
They it was basically like this.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I would go into the videos were like would go
sit with a therapist and we talk about a different issue,
and then it would lead into the music videos.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
So it was like a short film.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
That's really cool. I think more short films seem to
happen in music.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, period, No, absolutely, I mean I would do that
all day a long. But that one of the British
short film Awats, which is awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Heck, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
And then I got dropped, so.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That was.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Still check it out at least, right it's online.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, it's online.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
You should go check it out. The one of the
leads is from doctor Who. Do you have that show
over here?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I know what you're talking. Yeah, it's probably not as popular,
but it's a show.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I have Blue Hour and then I have Happy Hour,
which is like basically all you towards the end of
the summer next year. Like I don't know, I just
like love shit like that.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I love I love that you're thinking and concepts.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know, there's a reason why we've moved to singles,
which we don't need to get into. But I think
it's cool that you're coming from from a true art standpoint.
That's a great concept too. I'm pumped about it. So
you can hear the first half of it. Second half
is coming out after Christmas. I assume maybe you'll be
on tour playing some of these songs, at.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Least the going back home for Christmas, like a home
country Christmas with twenty show nice and then yeah, hoping
to get out on the road in America because I've
never told here, so I just want somebody to take
me on til I'm really good for comedy morale.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Guys, this is my pitch.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Give him, give them the thirty second elevator.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You want to take me on tour? This is me
twenty good for comedy morale. Yeah, great songs. In my
personal opinion, i'd be.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Byas, but you know it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Hey, we got to do a quick segment because we
have some friends in the area. They make really cool
jackets and shoes and they have this little jacket, a
little pull over because it getting a little cold outside.
Here's the deal, freezing sixty seconds on the clock. I'm
gonna rapid fire question and you just got to whatever
comes to your mind.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Okay, why are you scared?
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I feel like you've been scared of this whole podcast.
Now you're scared.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I don't like the unknown.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
We're going to enter into the unknown. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Okay, all right, I'm sorry, but wind up that clock,
Maddie producer Matty sixty seconds on the clock. Here we go,
dream venue to play, oh, red Rocks, dream person to
collaborate with?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Oh, this is really odd, Tolly.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Potter, the great answer? What are you a talker or
a texter talker?
Speaker 5 (37:21):
I love a phone call?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
You love a phone call. I like that you are
a talker?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Boots? What's your favorite type of boot?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Um?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Someone like this or like Doc Martin's or something.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, there you go. Celebrity crush.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I don't know. I actually have a bit of a thing.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
For Zack Bryan, you and Bereanna chicken fry. Oh man,
you can come steal that man's.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
But no, probably, I don't know. I like some of
the oldies broad Pit.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, what is it about Pitt?
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I don't know, it's just but like young Pitt.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
You know you like young pitting on old I understand.
What's your favorite fast food place?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Oh here, Oh, do you have Nando's here? Now it's
like a chicken place.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
We have Fort's called Raising Canes or.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Chick fil a, Chick fil A.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Then yeah, we'll go with fil A. There you go.
What's uh? What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Turned around? Every now and then I get a little
bit then a dream of something. Who I'm down at
Miss Kelly?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Why do I have a feeling You're going to Miss
Kelly tonight to play that?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Are you real? Uh?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
That wasn't bad, Matt. We hit sixty seconds there, Matt.
Matt gives the thumbs up. That was sixty seconds presented
by Area. Tell me about the story. We got like
two minutes left, So what's good?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So obviously after you broke up with me, I needed
a new life, and just like oh, I was very angry.
So in the whole video like I kill my husband,
the tagline is it's only legal to kill you and
all of my songs. Luckily, it's legal to kill you
in all my songs. So when he broke up with me,
I was playing a show with cart Faith and Robin Ottaline,
(39:08):
and these two were like the devil and angel on
my shoulder, like Robin was like, don't go to the house.
Carl was like, definitely, go to the house.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
So I went to the house. I didn't have my
key at the time.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
And he lived in like a three block of like
there's like flat one, flat two, flat three, and he's
in number two.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
So I buzz. It's like a communal area. He's not
answering me.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
And I'm for sure, like there's somebody else, Like why
would you spew it with somebody like that after ten
years not even a de like just a conversation would
have been nice. So he doesn't answer me. So I
buzzed the neighbors. It's all about eleven o'clock at.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Night, and so they let me in and I'm like, I.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Knock at his door and I'm listening at the door
and I'm like, there's.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Definitely somebody in there. There's definitely somebody here.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And then I see this window on the landing and
I'm like, okay, I'm going to crawl. So I thought
that this was a good idea to crawl out.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Of the window. You started crawling out of the window,
climb onto the roof.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I was hanging off a drain pipe and I shone
a torch into his bedroom window.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Yes, I went full psychomode.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Anyway, the police got called, but they didn't turn up
in time because I got bored. I was like, he's
not in whatever. I go home to my mum's up north,
so I'm not in London. I'm not at my house.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
So I go home and.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
My flatmate's like, hey, twin, there's like four non uniformed
police officers at the door.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
They've been banging at the door.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
They basically tell my flatmate and my neighbor that I
have been circulated around the Metropolitan London Police as wanted.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I was actually wanted by.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
The London Police, so I had to turn up to
like the police station. It was a whole I'm I'm here,
been in trouble with the police in my entire life.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I let you go.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
They were like, yeah, they just.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Asked me a few questions. But do you think the
same person would crawl on a roof? And I was like,
no comment, no comment. Actually, I don't know whether I
can get in trouble for this. Well, I'm in a
different country, so.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Right, I don't know if the I don't know if
the law transcends from.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The case has been closed anywhere. They didn't have anything
on me.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, of course. Now unbelievable. Oh man, what a way
to end this.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I'm basically never getting another day ever again, because everyone's
just going to think I'm a psychiler.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I think you might. I think you might have. You
got a whole new country to explore people. Right. They
say there's other fish in the sea, I mean there's
literally other fish over the sea. Check out twenty's music
now it is out.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Super pumped to meet you. I love that you're here
in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
You're bringing a new flavor to the town certainly, and
I just am looking forward to hearing more music from you,
seeing you on tour, and continue under crush it.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
British version, British version, British Invasion has arrived.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
British Invasion has arrived. We'll see y'all next week.
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