July 22, 2025 • 17 mins
Karlous and Navv sit down with KIRK FRANKLIN!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey man, Welcome back to the eighty five Self Show
b e T Awards twenty twenty five. We live at
the media house now. We've been talking to everybody this week.
But right now, before I say anything, I just gotta
ask you one question.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
What you're gonna ask me? Gep? Are you with me? Oh? Yea?
But my question is why you yelling though? Why you
gotta yell? And you yell on that part I yelled
at loud? Let me have one more time, bring it
down a little bit now, Okay, I got it, Okay, okay, okay,
ready to go. Cheep, Are you with man? That sounds
(00:39):
like that your cheeks is tight? That that I need
for you to loosen that up some all right, I
got it, Geep, Are you with you? Oh? That that's it?
That's it? Oh yeah, what is you doing? I don't
want to be to lie? What is this one doing?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah? You may need to sit out there. I'm playing
shit out. Let me and big dog? Who is he?
Is this your man's? Cause? This is your man? What
I'm kings? What kings? What kings? That is my auntie
boyfriend sister son. And you had to day sit him.
(01:22):
You had to day. Sit him. You couldn't keep it.
You couldn't keep him at home by myself.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Take your little cousin with you. Got nothing other than
mister Kirk Franklin that it is so good on a Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Come on, man, First of all, how you doing. I'm
doing good, king, It's so great. Seat boy, you are hilarious.
You're so talented, so gifted. Man, it is an honor
the city with you. I feel like talent is amazing, bro,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But I feel like on behalf of the black community,
all our aunties and grandmama's and all the people that
we went to church with. Man, no matter what light
we see you at, what event we see you at,
I gotta show you extra love for the people that
I love that I know love you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Wow wow, because you were definitely a staple in black household.
We knew it was time to clean up. We knew
it was when when you hear that music, you know
what's going on. Thank you man, man, But we really
tell your household, tell your auntie's and everybody that Kirk
said hello, man, I will sure look people miss now now, now,
(02:29):
did you give him some questions to ask or does
he just sit here, and he asked.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
He fascinated by you. Man, You have the questions. You
just don't meet Kirk Franklin every day.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Anna let me. I'm gonna lay it down. He's been
kigging it with me. I've been the biggest start of
these You just sitting down like you wrack. I'm like
Kirk Franklin. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I need you to
ask me some questions. Ask me something mail ees from ever.
(03:02):
I don't want to sing you. He gonna sing this song.
Ain't no question what y'all got in that car? What
studio recorded that man at church on Sunday? That was
at church on a Sunday, Church on the Sunday. But no, no, no,
no no, it won a Sunday night. But it was
a church. It was a Friday night. We were carding
(03:23):
Mellow from Heaven at a church nineteen ninety four. How
old were you in nineteen ninety four, eleven eleven years old? Yeah,
so that song is music. That song has been around
since you were eleven years old.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
We had to perform that song children quiet, Wow, come.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
On, that's beautiful man, That is beautiful down in Mississippi. Yes,
that's beautiful and you don't understand Mississippi ain't no end
to the song.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
They might just keep playing. Everybody to start walking to
the car. Late night revival. It's hit o'clock on the Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We gotta work them all. They're no end to the song.
I love it. That's so man. I'm here man to
just be able to be celebrated by YouTube brothers man
and celebrate y'all. And I know y'all got things popular.
I got things popular. Matter of fact, I got a
digital series coming out, man where I'm sitting together with
men and with black men over dinner. And uh first
(04:16):
episode is you Bought DC Country Wayne Uh duval Ellis
Lou Young and I called and I called the series,
uh dinn of Kings And it's just conversations with black
men over dinner. And we're talking about like like suicide
or fears, anxiety, depression. You know, it's men's mental health.
Money to come on, man, it's gonna be super super
(04:38):
dope man. Dope house in Atlanta had a chef, good
food and man, and so we're just having these dope conversations. Well,
we would love to pull up when the first will
drawn Father's Day, Father's day on my YouTube channel. Man,
thank you man, I can bring I don't know. He
seemed a little slow. He seemed he seemed like you
(04:58):
gotta that you to lead him. I like him, but
I don't know if he would really like like if
he's coming, like is he gonna sing? He might, but
that he can't.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He can't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, he need he needed to be in the conversation.
Does it need to be there because you don't have
nothing else, You have no other place you can take him.
I ain't got no it could benefit him a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I wan't try to sing again.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No, no, no, no. I want you to sing because
if my music has touched you, I want to be
able to know that man, and so if it's touched you,
I'm humble that you want to sing it so wherever.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
But when you introduce I shouldn't have sung it back
to you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes you can't. You didn't do nothing wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You said, what's up? I said, melodies?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oka, you know what? You know what? But but let
me you know, let me double check that you wann't
just that you want't play with my emotions. Sing me
another Kirk song? Since you rock with me so much?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Do you know another Kirk's own we Gotta go. If
I want to just do a Kirk song, I would
have said, I would have started writing up.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
People say that was that one y'all own? The No
two kirksongs? Oh are you playing y'all song? Which I like?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The song with you and TD Jake's Okay man, my
flavorite Kirk you ain't gonna song.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Someone asked a question.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
If someone asked a question, why it is that we sing?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Why do we sing? Why did they sing? If you
live my part, that's my part, that's my party. You
know what? You know what to test? I gotta shut up.
I gotta shut up. I digress, black man, I digress.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm more than a conn stop prom.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I've been a fan since you had the little flat
top with the little good when you was playing the keyboards,
standing up with the suspenders on.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
When I learned your song, my grandma thought I was
gonna be a deacon.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
She found out when I stopped listening to this song.
When I did, when I went outside, we ain't he this.
We're not turning on and turn it out.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We ain't well man. We was raised right, brother. This
touches me, man, This touches me, thank you, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But you know what, as a as a fan of
music in general, I always wondered, like, cause somebody gets
a feature that it ain't if it ain't a gospel song.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, yes, I'm on the Glorilla record. Yeah, definitely. Yeah,
you got one with Big Glower. Yes, I've been one
with Young drawing Ti, Young Drawing Ti. I've been on
Kanye's records. I've been on soundtracks with a little Baby.
I've been on many records. So that'll be letting me know.
You you out here listening to the other songs on
(07:35):
the CD too. I listen to music. I listen to music,
all kinds of music. I'm a musicians.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Let me ask you this, man, You done did movies,
TV shows, tours, concerts, travel the world?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What else? What's left that you want to do? Whatever
comes well, whatever comes that inspires me. I'm pulling up.
That's it, man. I'm a new artist every day. I'm
a new artist. My attitude is new. That's my hunger.
Every album is my first album, every project is my
first You're not gonna beat me being hunger.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I see a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They feel like because you are like you're known in
the gospel world that you just one dimension. What are
some of the biggest misconceptions about Kirk Franklin the man
that people.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Got that that I have this super contact with God
that don't nobody else have. I remember being on planes, Doc.
I can be on the plane and people getting on
the plane and people walk past me and they'll say, oh, man,
I know this plane ain't going down because Kirk on here.
I'm like my nigga pro Christians dining plane Christs every day.
(08:45):
What is it? But some people think, all, like, yo,
pray for me? Man? Is I know God hear your prayers.
It's like, bro, God hear your prayers just as much
as he he is mine. And I think that these
are the things that I'm always trying to deconstruct and
change in people's minds because people really think that just
because you may preach or do gospel music, that you
got some supernatural connect that they don't have. And it
(09:09):
ain't true. Now, I gotta say this, the documentary that
you drop about your life was.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Extremely personal, extremely touching.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Thank you man, and like, how did you have the
courage to tell that story after because you already you
you got this big super image and then you let
people in on the intimate details of your life.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Wow, Like what gave you the courage to do that?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Was that for other people?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Because you gotta keep in mind, it's not like you
already Kirk Franklin, Like you said, people got this perception
of you, that that you anointed, that God got you
put up in a special place, and then you show
them that you still going through real life stuff and
you're still struggling with stuff too.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
How you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's I think that it also helps me heal too,
that that that that when I talk and when I release,
and when and and and when I expose those areas
in my life, I'm healing at the same time, like
I heal as I reveal. And so it's very powerful
for me. Like, man, I couldn't go through that and
and just keep that to myself. Bro, come on, man,
(10:11):
I would have lost it. So that was very much
medicine for me. It helped you, like it helped out
for sure. For sure, it was medicinal on every level.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So when people did, people start pouring out you and saying, hey,
I'm kind of dealing.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
With this thing. Yeah, seeing you go through. Yep, yep, yep.
It was powerful. It was a powerful moment that many
people were able to find themselves, see themselves in my
own experience.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But see to the people who haven't seen the documentary,
go watch it. But I wanted to ask you this
now that you done got it out, and that's just
not a moment. You still dealing with it, still dealing
with where you at with the healing journey at this point, one.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Day at a time. Some days good days, some days
bad days, not because of them, but because of me.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's I won't looking for a father and he won't
looking for a son, and so these things just happened,
and so mean I've been raised with a dad. It
means I've been raised with family. It's not always the
easiest thing to process and have to take it one
day at a time. That's heaven, man, Yeah, it is,
it is. It is. You got you got that door
on the day. Well, you know it ain't real. Stop
(11:17):
a lot of us, man, it ain't real. Man. I
found some fabric and just showed that on there. I
want to I want to impress everybody. Are you actually
going to the war show. I'm going to the War Show.
I'm being I'm I'm I'm being given a lifetime achievement.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, come on, clap that up unless y'all got one too, now,
because right here you're going, you're supposed to popp it, Curt.
Everybody ain't got no lifetime achievement award. So if they
ain't clamping, they hate Now stop over there. You're gonna
hate on the man.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Really, it might be overdue. Very humbling, very humbling. You know,
I represent an entire community and the tired genre, and
so I want to be able to represent it well.
Because I'm not here by myself. I'm here on the show.
There's so many and so I just want to be
able to reflect that and represent that. Man. I've been
(12:13):
telling people for years, you will come on the eighty
five SETH show. Bro, I've been trying to come. Y'all
keep telling me, no, who shiit? No, that must have
been DC. It wouldn't me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I've been telling people for years, you will come on that, like, man,
stop playing with it, man like that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I pull up so quick now, man, you know it's
I never knew I was invited. So man, this is
a great honor for.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Me to That's why.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I wanted to make sure that I told you to
your face so you would.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Know, can't sign me in Atlanta. He had the studio.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm there, and we're gonna pull up at the dinner
because I got something to say at the dinner too.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Pull up. We're gonna wante you that baby.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And that's dope that you connected with DC man. Man,
if everybody tell you DC he is, he is our
spiritual He.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Got us praying in a different way like we are.
Oh no, he take that serious, thoughtful man.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't think that's the side of him that a
lot of people get to see. You know. He preaches kids. Yes, yes,
he grew up. His dad had the big suit. He
had the little big suit with the square shoes. Absolutely
hurt the most, definitely. What was it? Let me ask
you this, like when you were growing up in the church,
what was your favorite part of that? The girls? The girls,
(13:25):
because you know I was coming up in the church
where you know, it was kind of like the hangout.
It was where like the kids were, you know, I
mean because you you know, the youth choir, you know
what I mean, the little little youth trips and children's church,
you know, and all of that, so you know it
was I mean back then for me coming up and
like it was fun.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, you know, my favorite part of the church was
always guests pastors. Why because I was they would like
to always try to out preach each other and then
you can tell when they really get and they preach
it bad because they like, I'm from Mississippi, so it's
down south.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know, the church smell like begging. They couldn't break
with this morning, so it's like a.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Little bit yeah, when they get into they bag, they
started throwing a little at the end of everything that's
gone came down and everybody is here and every.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yesterday, Like I love that point.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm like he in his bag, especially when they used
to do the program and another pastor had to come
and then he'll walk up and he'll start off real
summer and yes, yes, give it give it up for
brother will Pastor Williams over there and Pine Bluff hawking.
Sometimes I go to church and when I go to
(14:42):
bed and I can't get no rest, and God don't
want you to go to sleep, but you gotta lead out,
like what are you gonna do next?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like that was that was always the highlight. That's what
you enjoyed, man, because we had a well you know
that that still happens. Preacher who used to mess up
simple words. Word. This is a word I only ever
heard in Mississippi.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I was getting ready to come down here and started
getting ready, and I looked around and I had been
sitting there for about fifteen or twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Twenty minutes. I ain't never heard that word outside of Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I be over there in about fifteen.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or twenty minutes with the head no quinney. Now we
living now, mister Franklin, Thank you knk. We appreciate you
sitting down.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's one of giving us a few moments of your
time and much love and respect everything you got going through.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You just changed the word lost.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
We can still you know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You more than welcome. Thank you to pull up at
the eighty five South Show. And thank y'all for knowing
more than one and two songs I could we kept going.
We gotta do the segment when we could just.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Change the word, Uh, this is your cousins, all right.
We came up with a segment.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Everybody gotta do it, okay, all right, now this segment
right here is for the BET Awards twenty twenty five. Right,
and the segment is called we ain't even gonna say it.
We're just gonna leave it blank.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, we leave blank.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's called what what you got on?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And you just tell us what you got on? And
you popp it. You know what I mean? I have on.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Some some genes, some Nazareth Okay, okay, I have a
drill a shirt from Bethlehem and boots, some the red tea.
There you go. These are Moses specials because when it
came out.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He was white. Oh holy annoying it, drill sanctifier.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Come on, man, popp it. He wasn't white, but he
was pure like white. You're like white. There you go.
That's what I have on. Nothing but love, admiration, everything.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Kirk Franklin, Thank Katie, Fave Shout Show, Thanks Be to
your Worst twenty twenty five Lifetime Achievement.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
We're out of here.
Hey man, Welcome back to the eighty five Self Show
b e T Awards twenty twenty five. We live at
the media house now. We've been talking to everybody this week.
But right now, before I say anything, I just gotta
ask you one question.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
What you're gonna ask me? Gep? Are you with me? Oh? Yea?
But my question is why you yelling though? Why you
gotta yell? And you yell on that part I yelled
at loud? Let me have one more time, bring it
down a little bit now, Okay, I got it, Okay, okay, okay,
ready to go. Cheep, Are you with man? That sounds
(00:39):
like that your cheeks is tight? That that I need
for you to loosen that up some all right, I
got it, Geep, Are you with you? Oh? That that's it?
That's it? Oh yeah, what is you doing? I don't
want to be to lie? What is this one doing?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah? You may need to sit out there. I'm playing
shit out. Let me and big dog? Who is he?
Is this your man's? Cause? This is your man? What
I'm kings? What kings? What kings? That is my auntie
boyfriend sister son. And you had to day sit him.
(01:22):
You had to day. Sit him. You couldn't keep it.
You couldn't keep him at home by myself.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Take your little cousin with you. Got nothing other than
mister Kirk Franklin that it is so good on a Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Come on, man, First of all, how you doing. I'm
doing good, king, It's so great. Seat boy, you are hilarious.
You're so talented, so gifted. Man, it is an honor
the city with you. I feel like talent is amazing, bro,
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But I feel like on behalf of the black community,
all our aunties and grandmama's and all the people that
we went to church with. Man, no matter what light
we see you at, what event we see you at,
I gotta show you extra love for the people that
I love that I know love you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Wow wow, because you were definitely a staple in black household.
We knew it was time to clean up. We knew
it was when when you hear that music, you know
what's going on. Thank you man, man, But we really
tell your household, tell your auntie's and everybody that Kirk
said hello, man, I will sure look people miss now now, now,
(02:29):
did you give him some questions to ask or does
he just sit here, and he asked.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
He fascinated by you. Man, You have the questions. You
just don't meet Kirk Franklin every day.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Anna let me. I'm gonna lay it down. He's been
kigging it with me. I've been the biggest start of
these You just sitting down like you wrack. I'm like
Kirk Franklin. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I need you to
ask me some questions. Ask me something mail ees from ever.
(03:02):
I don't want to sing you. He gonna sing this song.
Ain't no question what y'all got in that car? What
studio recorded that man at church on Sunday? That was
at church on a Sunday, Church on the Sunday. But no, no, no,
no no, it won a Sunday night. But it was
a church. It was a Friday night. We were carding
(03:23):
Mellow from Heaven at a church nineteen ninety four. How
old were you in nineteen ninety four, eleven eleven years old? Yeah,
so that song is music. That song has been around
since you were eleven years old.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
We had to perform that song children quiet, Wow, come.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
On, that's beautiful man, That is beautiful down in Mississippi. Yes,
that's beautiful and you don't understand Mississippi ain't no end
to the song.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
They might just keep playing. Everybody to start walking to
the car. Late night revival. It's hit o'clock on the Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We gotta work them all. They're no end to the song.
I love it. That's so man. I'm here man to
just be able to be celebrated by YouTube brothers man
and celebrate y'all. And I know y'all got things popular.
I got things popular. Matter of fact, I got a
digital series coming out, man where I'm sitting together with
men and with black men over dinner. And uh first
(04:16):
episode is you Bought DC Country Wayne Uh duval Ellis
Lou Young and I called and I called the series,
uh dinn of Kings And it's just conversations with black
men over dinner. And we're talking about like like suicide
or fears, anxiety, depression. You know, it's men's mental health.
Money to come on, man, it's gonna be super super
(04:38):
dope man. Dope house in Atlanta had a chef, good
food and man, and so we're just having these dope conversations. Well,
we would love to pull up when the first will
drawn Father's Day, Father's day on my YouTube channel. Man,
thank you man, I can bring I don't know. He
seemed a little slow. He seemed he seemed like you
(04:58):
gotta that you to lead him. I like him, but
I don't know if he would really like like if
he's coming, like is he gonna sing? He might, but
that he can't.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He can't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, he need he needed to be in the conversation.
Does it need to be there because you don't have
nothing else, You have no other place you can take him.
I ain't got no it could benefit him a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I wan't try to sing again.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No, no, no, no. I want you to sing because
if my music has touched you, I want to be
able to know that man, and so if it's touched you,
I'm humble that you want to sing it so wherever.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
But when you introduce I shouldn't have sung it back
to you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes you can't. You didn't do nothing wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You said, what's up? I said, melodies?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oka, you know what? You know what? But but let
me you know, let me double check that you wann't
just that you want't play with my emotions. Sing me
another Kirk song? Since you rock with me so much?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Do you know another Kirk's own we Gotta go. If
I want to just do a Kirk song, I would
have said, I would have started writing up.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
People say that was that one y'all own? The No
two kirksongs? Oh are you playing y'all song? Which I like?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The song with you and TD Jake's Okay man, my
flavorite Kirk you ain't gonna song.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Someone asked a question.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
If someone asked a question, why it is that we sing?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Why do we sing? Why did they sing? If you
live my part, that's my part, that's my party. You
know what? You know what to test? I gotta shut up.
I gotta shut up. I digress, black man, I digress.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm more than a conn stop prom.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I've been a fan since you had the little flat
top with the little good when you was playing the keyboards,
standing up with the suspenders on.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
When I learned your song, my grandma thought I was
gonna be a deacon.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
She found out when I stopped listening to this song.
When I did, when I went outside, we ain't he this.
We're not turning on and turn it out.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We ain't well man. We was raised right, brother. This
touches me, man, This touches me, thank you, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But you know what, as a as a fan of
music in general, I always wondered, like, cause somebody gets
a feature that it ain't if it ain't a gospel song.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, yes, I'm on the Glorilla record. Yeah, definitely. Yeah,
you got one with Big Glower. Yes, I've been one
with Young drawing Ti, Young Drawing Ti. I've been on
Kanye's records. I've been on soundtracks with a little Baby.
I've been on many records. So that'll be letting me know.
You you out here listening to the other songs on
(07:35):
the CD too. I listen to music. I listen to music,
all kinds of music. I'm a musicians.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Let me ask you this, man, You done did movies,
TV shows, tours, concerts, travel the world?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What else? What's left that you want to do? Whatever
comes well, whatever comes that inspires me. I'm pulling up.
That's it, man. I'm a new artist every day. I'm
a new artist. My attitude is new. That's my hunger.
Every album is my first album, every project is my
first You're not gonna beat me being hunger.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I see a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They feel like because you are like you're known in
the gospel world that you just one dimension. What are
some of the biggest misconceptions about Kirk Franklin the man
that people.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Got that that I have this super contact with God
that don't nobody else have. I remember being on planes, Doc.
I can be on the plane and people getting on
the plane and people walk past me and they'll say, oh, man,
I know this plane ain't going down because Kirk on here.
I'm like my nigga pro Christians dining plane Christs every day.
(08:45):
What is it? But some people think, all, like, yo,
pray for me? Man? Is I know God hear your prayers.
It's like, bro, God hear your prayers just as much
as he he is mine. And I think that these
are the things that I'm always trying to deconstruct and
change in people's minds because people really think that just
because you may preach or do gospel music, that you
got some supernatural connect that they don't have. And it
(09:09):
ain't true. Now, I gotta say this, the documentary that
you drop about your life was.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Extremely personal, extremely touching.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Thank you man, and like, how did you have the
courage to tell that story after because you already you
you got this big super image and then you let
people in on the intimate details of your life.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Wow, Like what gave you the courage to do that?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Was that for other people?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Because you gotta keep in mind, it's not like you
already Kirk Franklin, Like you said, people got this perception
of you, that that you anointed, that God got you
put up in a special place, and then you show
them that you still going through real life stuff and
you're still struggling with stuff too.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
How you do that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's I think that it also helps me heal too,
that that that that when I talk and when I release,
and when and and and when I expose those areas
in my life, I'm healing at the same time, like
I heal as I reveal. And so it's very powerful
for me. Like, man, I couldn't go through that and
and just keep that to myself. Bro, come on, man,
(10:11):
I would have lost it. So that was very much
medicine for me. It helped you, like it helped out
for sure. For sure, it was medicinal on every level.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So when people did, people start pouring out you and saying, hey,
I'm kind of dealing.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
With this thing. Yeah, seeing you go through. Yep, yep, yep.
It was powerful. It was a powerful moment that many
people were able to find themselves, see themselves in my
own experience.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But see to the people who haven't seen the documentary,
go watch it. But I wanted to ask you this
now that you done got it out, and that's just
not a moment. You still dealing with it, still dealing
with where you at with the healing journey at this point, one.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Day at a time. Some days good days, some days
bad days, not because of them, but because of me.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's I won't looking for a father and he won't
looking for a son, and so these things just happened,
and so mean I've been raised with a dad. It
means I've been raised with family. It's not always the
easiest thing to process and have to take it one
day at a time. That's heaven, man, Yeah, it is,
it is. It is. You got you got that door
on the day. Well, you know it ain't real. Stop
(11:17):
a lot of us, man, it ain't real. Man. I
found some fabric and just showed that on there. I
want to I want to impress everybody. Are you actually
going to the war show. I'm going to the War Show.
I'm being I'm I'm I'm being given a lifetime achievement.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, come on, clap that up unless y'all got one too, now,
because right here you're going, you're supposed to popp it, Curt.
Everybody ain't got no lifetime achievement award. So if they
ain't clamping, they hate Now stop over there. You're gonna
hate on the man.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Really, it might be overdue. Very humbling, very humbling. You know,
I represent an entire community and the tired genre, and
so I want to be able to represent it well.
Because I'm not here by myself. I'm here on the show.
There's so many and so I just want to be
able to reflect that and represent that. Man. I've been
(12:13):
telling people for years, you will come on the eighty
five SETH show. Bro, I've been trying to come. Y'all
keep telling me, no, who shiit? No, that must have
been DC. It wouldn't me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I've been telling people for years, you will come on that, like, man,
stop playing with it, man like that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I pull up so quick now, man, you know it's
I never knew I was invited. So man, this is
a great honor for.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Me to That's why.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I wanted to make sure that I told you to
your face so you would.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Know, can't sign me in Atlanta. He had the studio.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm there, and we're gonna pull up at the dinner
because I got something to say at the dinner too.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Pull up. We're gonna wante you that baby.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And that's dope that you connected with DC man. Man,
if everybody tell you DC he is, he is our
spiritual He.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Got us praying in a different way like we are.
Oh no, he take that serious, thoughtful man.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't think that's the side of him that a
lot of people get to see. You know. He preaches kids. Yes, yes,
he grew up. His dad had the big suit. He
had the little big suit with the square shoes. Absolutely
hurt the most, definitely. What was it? Let me ask
you this, like when you were growing up in the church,
what was your favorite part of that? The girls? The girls,
(13:25):
because you know I was coming up in the church
where you know, it was kind of like the hangout.
It was where like the kids were, you know, I
mean because you you know, the youth choir, you know
what I mean, the little little youth trips and children's church,
you know, and all of that, so you know it
was I mean back then for me coming up and
like it was fun.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, you know, my favorite part of the church was
always guests pastors. Why because I was they would like
to always try to out preach each other and then
you can tell when they really get and they preach
it bad because they like, I'm from Mississippi, so it's
down south.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know, the church smell like begging. They couldn't break
with this morning, so it's like a.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Little bit yeah, when they get into they bag, they
started throwing a little at the end of everything that's
gone came down and everybody is here and every.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yesterday, Like I love that point.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm like he in his bag, especially when they used
to do the program and another pastor had to come
and then he'll walk up and he'll start off real
summer and yes, yes, give it give it up for
brother will Pastor Williams over there and Pine Bluff hawking.
Sometimes I go to church and when I go to
(14:42):
bed and I can't get no rest, and God don't
want you to go to sleep, but you gotta lead out,
like what are you gonna do next?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Like that was that was always the highlight. That's what
you enjoyed, man, because we had a well you know
that that still happens. Preacher who used to mess up
simple words. Word. This is a word I only ever
heard in Mississippi.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I was getting ready to come down here and started
getting ready, and I looked around and I had been
sitting there for about fifteen or twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Twenty minutes. I ain't never heard that word outside of Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, I be over there in about fifteen.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Or twenty minutes with the head no quinney. Now we
living now, mister Franklin, Thank you knk. We appreciate you
sitting down.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's one of giving us a few moments of your
time and much love and respect everything you got going through.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You just changed the word lost.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
We can still you know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You more than welcome. Thank you to pull up at
the eighty five South Show. And thank y'all for knowing
more than one and two songs I could we kept going.
We gotta do the segment when we could just.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Change the word, Uh, this is your cousins, all right.
We came up with a segment.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Everybody gotta do it, okay, all right, now this segment
right here is for the BET Awards twenty twenty five. Right,
and the segment is called we ain't even gonna say it.
We're just gonna leave it blank.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, we leave blank.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's called what what you got on?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And you just tell us what you got on? And
you popp it. You know what I mean? I have on.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Some some genes, some Nazareth Okay, okay, I have a
drill a shirt from Bethlehem and boots, some the red tea.
There you go. These are Moses specials because when it
came out.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He was white. Oh holy annoying it, drill sanctifier.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Come on, man, popp it. He wasn't white, but he
was pure like white. You're like white. There you go.
That's what I have on. Nothing but love, admiration, everything.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Kirk Franklin, Thank Katie, Fave Shout Show, Thanks Be to
your Worst twenty twenty five Lifetime Achievement.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
We're out of here.
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