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December 1, 2025 • 12 mins

Karlous & Pour Minds sit down with KIRK & RASHEEDA backstage at ONE Music Fest!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, welcome back to the eighty five Step Show. And
we got my homies from.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Four Minds in the buildings.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey, and we backstage right now at one music fest
at the Backwoods Backstage in Atlanta, So we had to
get some real atl.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Ledges up in here. We got none other man Turk
yah yo.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Man, how does that feel performing at the huge festival
in at o your home city?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
How does that feel?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. The home always yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
So man, it's always dope to tune in and see
what y'all got going on there on that show.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Y'all show y'all ass on that show.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
If y'all ever need me to pop up and show
my ass show man, y'all keep that ship interesting. So, like,
I always want to know, like how do y'all balance
your real life from your work life, because y'all married
in real life, and y'all work together to ever get
to a point where it just get overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Sometimes it does. I be lying if I say it
that't because we really do like.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Everything together from our restaurants, our closing stores, to our
online businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We during the documentary together.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You have children to raise and so we do everything together,
and we just have to learn how to like respect
each other space, communicate the right way, and take a
break from the niggare once in a while. Yeah, I
was gonna say that because I know, like being on
the internet and looking at all the stuff people be saying.

(01:43):
If you're reading that all the time and you get
it wrapped up in it, I know they can really
affect y'all's relationship. But what I love about y'all it
seems like y'all don't really live at a make y'all relationship.
Well no, because one thing about it is none of
those people validate.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Shit, right, you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna be honest.
Excuse me because because I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
To get an I want to say, you know, when
you understand your purpose and understand your solid foundation and
realize you're not.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Perfect, you're gonna go through shit. And we live in
a society to where.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
People they want to give up and they want to
move on to something that they think is bigger and better.
And it's normally not that you know, it's not that way,
but for us, you know, we thank God. Either way,
just keep you to the book and that's what you
gotta do. You can't know one, it doesn't matter if
you're on TV or not on TV. You can't allow
outside people who don't know you to sit here and

(02:34):
get into your head to make you think that there's
something that you know you're not right right, right?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
So, how much of the reality show? Because I watched
Love and Hip Hop? Ever see some child? Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
If you had to give it a percentage of how
real it is?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
How real is it?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I say this?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
How much of our lives do you see a Love
and Hip Hop? You've probably seen three percent.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of one hundred. Think about it.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Let's you know what I'll be trying to get people
to realize if people just thought for one second, Okay,
we're on an ensemble show with a bunch of niggas, right,
how much of our life are you gonna get in
forty eight minutes of an episode?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Okay, and let me get it said?

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Its things you even wanted to show to the world,
Like when stuff happened with me and Rashida. At that time,
they might have not felt it was interesting enough. They
wanted another you know another narrative came out right right.
That's why when you get to watch the journey of
kirkt Rashida. You'll get to see the story. Y'all get
to see the separate and when shit went rough.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
But to everybody looked like Kirk this did all this
crazy shit. That's the way y'all seen it.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, so that's the way they put it out.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
There, And I have no cause with it.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's a business, y'all.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Business.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
We get up and go to work just like.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Hey, it did.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
I won't sell you it didn't happen what we wanted
it to be, showing what it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
But if people watch the show and they response, I
heard each other.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
If it was all real or happened that great.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Pole respond like, it's actually in real.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Time, right yeah, years ago.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
So it's like, you know what, sometimes you don't happen
any fact. The cameras are not with you every day,
every minute. So when you're going through such thing, the
cameras may not be there, but you're like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm going to this job. That's that's then they want
to capture that right right right, a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
But sometimes I captured it a real time because the
camera here with me now right right right right, So
Could you tell us a little bit more about the documentary?
Can you tell us a little more about the documentary.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Documentary is actually starts, and I think I've started around
eighty seven, eighty eight in New York. I came to
Atlanta in eighty eight, so I kind of bring that
journey to Atlanta and growing up in Harlem being around
a Richard.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Do why Altos. I was influenced by a lot of things.
When I came to Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
I brought like a shirt like tr slag, a lot
of stuff. But then Atlanta accepted me in a way
that I only was embraced in love.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
You're gonna get the breaks, the love, the music.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
From two different places.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
You'll come together and we go through a real music
industry before social media had to get to fance, independent
floor flow or with relationships ship from the real story
of relationships, us getting on television how like and the

(05:37):
real story behind a lot of things you saw television
and our real life. It is thirty years yeah, Upstowns, Triumph,
closed door.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm gonna get on and it got receipts. You're just
not telling you it. You're gonna have some eighty seven
you wanna see it. When I go to eighty eight,
you gonna see it. I was lucky enough to have
all that I loved.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I go far back with you. I've been a fan
a long time. I used to be on line wire.
Oh my god, with it?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Are you put my hands on the back of your head?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
That one important thing I want to say about the
Journey though our documentary, so it's.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Called The Journey The Untold Story and KIRKR. Marashida.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
But you'll see the evolution of Atlanta culture because we
started in Atlanta when it was real dirt, red clake.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
It wasn't those skyscrapers. There was no.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Music scene, there was no none of that. Nigga Jermaine
Debris wasn't who he became. All of that we hadn't developed.
You'll see people and be like, oh ship, that's such
and such.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah, they would sign when they signed, blew up, disappeared.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
You have all and all the receipt Oh wow, it's.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Gonna be monumental. It's like sometime I look at it,
I ain't on in front. I watch certain things. I
might drop a tier because somebody's on here that's not
even here no more. But they had a career it's crazy,
it's real special.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I was going to ask you, You've been able to
like have a long, a long career. So what are
you telling the up and coming artists who come up
and they say, Forshida, how you do it? What kind
of advice are you giving the next generation?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Well, one thing I think that people should do period,
it's just be like your authentic self.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know, we own this, we in this world.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Bigga.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Just want to put on, you know, And when you
put on, it's a constant have to put on to
the point of where you don't even you get lost
in it.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
In it, you don't even know who you are, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
So if you stay true to yourself, work hard, develop
a relationship with whatever your higher power is, and understand
your purpose and walk in it and don't give up,
keep faith, stay focused.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And the last thing I want to say is like.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
This younger generation, they have this instant ratification go on
and they really don't.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Want to work for nothing.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
But what you got to understand is like when you
look at people who have really been doing it and
doing it, you can't deny the hard work that they
put in and the closed doors that happen, and you
just have to stay focused, stay you and stay and
God leads you where you're trying to go.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
That's what eat. I got one more.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Y'all been appreciate ownership for a long time. How did
you feel to see that that's the way with everybody
creating content, all the artists coming out saying that they
rather be independent.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
But y'all, that's been y'all thing for a minute.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
We actually have pretty much been independent most of my career.
And it's money because like my song Marry Me has
like billions of streams, and my song Bubblegum the same
billions of streams and sales and all of that. And
sometimes people don't realize they're scared to step out there
and they think, oh I need a big machine, Oh
I need to do this. No, you can be the

(09:01):
captain of your own ship, create your own destiny.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And just because it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Back in two thousand and seven when I came out
with Bubblegum, doesn't mean that it's not gonna happen for
you later. So if you if you don't be scared,
put your mind to it and go out there and
do it, you'll reap the benefits for the rest of
your life. A lot of these artists people gonna talk
shit about me or receive it. Ain't this guess what

(09:26):
your favorite artists who signed to that big label.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'll forever be more paid. Not being funny, but it's ownership.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
It never stops. So every year when Mary Me goes viral,
every John out here, when Bubblegumm goes viral, got all
of these songs, It's like, that's my four oh one.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
K that's not tired.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, kak. I saw when you was posting the numbers
of the.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Real certifications and there was Yeah, it was crazy. So
big salute to y'all. I gotta ask you this before
you get out of here. I know you love the
old school cars. I see you on Instagram BAM restoring
a lot of the late model eighties BMW business and shit,
what you working on right now?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
You said, what's one? I'm what you're working on right now? Okay,
right now? Working on the first the eighty eight in five.
So I have the first.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I got the first, second and third in fives that
ever came out. I got most of my car lineup
are all appreciating assets. Everything I own except two all
go up in value. So again again, I've learned enough.
You know, we got a ton of property. The music
sells more than and evidence had Kentucky. You know, I

(10:35):
love my cars. I love my even if you talk
new school cars. I got cars from Porsche that everybody
can't even get. Like I mean, I'm like, I don't
want to say I'm like the black guy when they
be like, how you got that?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Because I've been buying them since ninety fours. I can
get things.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Nobody else can get. I just took the delivery of
another one, and we would.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Be what's what's up to my boy? Scott Disney. Scott
Disney is in.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Here right now trying to get one of the ones
that I got.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know what I'm saying, And I think I'm gonna
let them get it. But at the same time, I
love cards.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I'm from Harlem, I grew up in it, and I
brought it to Atlanta so.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I could go on with cars.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Y'all gonna be talking all that.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Since we are at one music face, we gotta do
a little music trivia and see if y'all know some songs.
So I'm gonna say some lyrics and then let y'all industry. Okay, okay,
So if you haven't girl problems, I feel bad for
you saying I got nine to nine problems. And if
you ain't one, hey, okay, baby girl, what's your name?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Let me talk to you, let me buy you a.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know hey, Yeah, that was a great song. Shut
Out to tea pag, shout out to tea pain. Okay,
let's see, I'm a savvage classic Boosie got that.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
When I was about to say one, I thought it
was one and I just making a sience.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I was looking after twenty one period.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Well, we love y'all. Thank y'all so much for joining us.
Thank y'all staples in the Atlanta community and the black
love everywhere.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Hey, Kirk and russhe Beckwoods back Stage eighty past south
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