June 16, 2025 • 16 mins
DC Young Fly, Lex P and Drea Nicole sit down with Vic the Barber at Backwoods Backstage!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, you know what time it is? Man bad
Wood backstage? You dig what I'm saying. Got the beautiful
poor minds in the building. You know what time it is?
Third party? You dig what I'm saying up the eighty
five South TC, young Flizzle.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
But like I said, it's not about me.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You might have seen him on Instagram. You did.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
He's a you know what, he's the coldest white boy
I know. Man can come to the barbecue.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You heard the bar because a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Lot of y'all gonna eat.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Y'all have cut so it's definitely gonna cut your hair
and it gonna be up to park right and dig
what I'm saying. Hey, Man, he's a good hearted brother.
You dig what I'm saying. And he's go viral every
chance you see him. Y'all make some noise for big.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I appreciate that, brother. Thanks you always carpet for me.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh way, Bro, when we saw you, we were like man,
push over man, especially poor mind saw you look at
it that way back, so we had to make sure
you stop through Man.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What coome Dreamville?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
What's hand it?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah? Appreciate that, bro. Have you been here before?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No? Nigga's my first time.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What you think it's lit compared to like another festival?
What you feel about Dreamville?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Peaceful?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah? How to interact friends Atlanta?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
This would have been shut down three hours ago. Come on, man,
But you know it's it's a beautiful event. You dig
what I'm saying. And it's not about us, bro, It's
about you.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know we don't saw you on the on the net.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Giving out free haircuts, not only just giving out free haircuts,
taking the time out to actually get to know the
people who you're talking to. You feel what I'm saying,
allowing them to tell their story and then you are
giving off some some good energy back on just showing
them like it's really people out here that that kept
for him. You feel what I'm saying. So the message
that you send out to the world, bro, you feel me.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's appreciated and thank you, Bro.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I appreciate that a lot appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's appreciated. Like, so, what made you, first of all,
as a barber, want to give out free hackut?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
But that's your trap.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, that's how.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You make money.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Why did you say I'm gonna leave a barbershop to
go outside to give people hair cut for free.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, I'm for favor in North Carolina, which is Dreamville,
you know, Carolina rays Man. So come up from a
small town like that, you know. Barbara was my way out.
And then I moved to Lanta twenty nineteen from cutting
my mom's garage and favor of cutting my brother garage,
getting my license. And then eventually I knew if I
wanted to go to the place that I was dreaming about,
I gotta go somewhere that I could make that happen
(02:34):
at So Atlanta was gonna give me an opportunity to
jump in, meet people, network and just see success up close.
Like seeing a guy like you. I remember seeing you
at Bowlero years ago. You don't remember, but I remember
I seen you, and I remember I was like, Yo,
that's DC. I'm at Bowlero. I just moved to Atlanta.
I just seen DC at the Bolero, you know. So
(02:54):
stuff like that motivate me. When I get to see
that it's really possible, and a person like you, you
just a testimony to that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
So when the pandemic happened, I came to Atlanta with
a goal to cut all the rappers, cut all the
artists I can, and I did. So I got up there.
I'm charging one hundred dollars a haircut. It's it's cool.
It's a hustle, but for a purpose to inspire, I
wanted to do something that was more attainable to other people,
to everybody that could be watching. So when the pandemic happened,
you know, I couldn't do my thing. I couldn't cut
(03:21):
trap got shut down. So now what am I going
to do? I can't even get to a person. So
I just had to listen to what God was telling me.
Because I think pandemic was kind of a transformative time
for a lot of people. You really got to dig
deep and figure out what you're here to do. So
in that time, you know, I felt like I was
always called on to use my voice of some sort.
So during the pandemic, I started making small motivational videos.
(03:44):
Because if I can't cut hair or what else can
I do? Shit, I could talk, You'd have to put
me in the dirt for me to start talking, you know,
So I keep talking and I made small motivational videos.
People appreciated it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So when we.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Got out, you know, I'm thinking I got a passion
to cut, but I got a purpose to inspire. How
do I do these two things other because they both
live together and they both can exist together. But I
came with an idea like, y'all go give a stranger
a cut, and that'll be my stage to speak. I
won't wait for another person to say, all you got
another experience, come talk to my school, or come here
speak on this stage, or and now we need you.
(04:15):
I'll create my stage. And that was just a barber chair.
That's what we do for others. You know, that's the
beauty of making somebody laugh for give them a fresh cut.
It's like we're here to serve other people. And you
know I gave somebody a free cut on the street,
and you changed my life.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
A story, a story that can be impactful and that
you can learn from. Tell so many words, like so
what made you want to get into like barbering?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Bro Like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Y'all use half scissors, you got real clippers with that
with the guard and all that. Because I'm been in
both barber shops. Well, I'm like, ain't your clippers cut on?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
You don't want to that you don't want to cut.
I don't want to sing.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They like what made you start?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like, cause I'll be barbering myself, like what made you
want to you know what I'm saying, become a barber man.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I was just a hustler growing up, fourteen fifteen, get
my own money. And then you know, I wasn't into
school like most of us. I didn't want to go
to college. I didn't know what I was going to do.
I didn't have like, yo, I'm going to be a
doctor and aspire to be whatever. I just had a hustle.
My dad told me from a young age, a man
don't ask a mom for money. If you want to
get it, you gotta go get on your own. So shoot, man,
I was trying to figure out how to get it,
(05:20):
and I thought I had to go to college. I
thought I was getting forced to, so I asked my
my barber. Because I was working at the restaurant at
the time. I didn't want to work in the restaurant
no more. I didn't want to be the dude like
I was scared of the dudes in the back because
I ain't want to get to that age like I'm
in the back of a kitchen making pizza all day
like you know, and it's everybody got a hustle and
do what they got to do. But I was looking
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at it like, man, I don't want to be stuck here,
you know. So I asked my barber, what shall do
to make money? He said, if you learn how to
cut hair, you make money for the rest of your life.
I was like, damn rest of my life and money
in the same sentence. I got to see what acted
on you. So I was that was gonna be my
hustle in college. So I started the beginning my senior
year of high school. And then by the time I
was gonna graduate, and I grew a passion for it.
(06:04):
And God told me that if I took it seriously,
with open doors for me. And that was the first
time I ever heard the word of God in my life.
Was he told me to take barbering serious and open doors.
So I was too scared to see my life without it.
I was too scared to see what happened if I
didn't do it. So I had to go back home.
I told my parents, like yo, I had already went
to the open house, got my college classes paid for
schedule picked out, I had the book back the lanyard.
(06:25):
I'm like, damn, I'm about to go to college. I
had to come back home that day. God told me,
you know, take it serious, and I had to tell
him I'm gonna go straight to barber school get my license.
And I had a small agreement. I was trying to
tell him I'll go to college right after, Like if
I get my barber's license, I promise you, right after
I graduate, I'm gonna go back to college and get
my degree. And the back of my mind, you kid, nah,
(06:46):
I knew I was Nah, I knew I was going back,
but I had to get my license, so they let
me go. And then, you know, I just try to
make them prou since then let.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Me ask all your stuff because it's like two different worlds,
I know for me and and wemen, like when we
get our hair done, know, we go to black girls
they do our hair, and I think it's the same
thing for you know, black men. So do you feel
like in the beginning you had to like convince him, like, bro,
I really know how to cut hair, Like I know
what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, it's all from
anything your work. I always speak for yourself. And you know,
my first cut was on my best friend Justin. He's
black and you know a lot of my friends growing up,
you know, we're also black. And I think that's just
what I was funny. You know, my OJ's a Jamaican man.
So the shop I grew up, the shop I grew
(07:30):
up in was Jamaica. So you know, I just had
good rules, good people around me, and man that put
me on early and you know, man, it's just I
love cutting hair.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, So then you know in the barber shop, he
stand out anyway. So motherfucker sitting there watching for them, like.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yeah, man, they got to see if it's good.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Bro, They're like you not. You're like, yeah, but I'm
gonna go to him right, let me go to here.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
So obviously you do a lot to give back to
the community, a lot of philanthropy with doing that. What
is one experience that you where you felt like you
were really making an impact on the community, man.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
One. You know, it's hard to pinpoint like one thing
that I felt like change everything. I think coming back
home for one of our givebacks and I being a
god bless man, the mayor blessed me with the key
to the city on my hometown, and I feel like
that was like wow, you know, I wanted to all
I ever wanted to do being a barbarous like yo,
show kids another way to do it. With a trade,
you could be celebrated and you can live your life
(08:27):
to the highest that you could see it with whatever
it is that you love. And I just wanted the
shown what was possible with barbering. So I don't want
you to feel like, you know, if you ain't if
you ain't as funny as this do it, or if
you can't hoop, or if you can't wrap, like yo,
there's some other stuff out there for you. No matter
what it is, it ain't lame to cut. It ain't
lame to pick up the camera and shoot, you know.
So I just wanted to show people that it was
possible whatever it is that you love.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, who was like a moment like when you were
cutting their hair, You're like, Okay, I'm like cold, I'm
making it Like.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I cut Barack Obama last year.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Big flakes.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That man, Old beezy man.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Get what he Wow?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
He was like nobody And that's a real nick. Yeah,
you got the president say only nobody cut my help.
He did, you could cut my hair.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I had some rappers and not want to cut. I
had some artists and I get a cut. But man,
when they told me he was gonna let me cut
his hair out, I lost it. Yeah, were you nervous?
Hell yeah, I feel like I was gonna put that
third time.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You were like, come on, man, it's like.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Right, So look I have I have forty five minutes
on the dot to cut my rock. So they said,
when he walked through the door, your cameras gott to
roll on the time of gonna start, but you gotta
be ready for the walk through. You know how production
is okay before before you get to the story.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
How do you even set up a meeting to cut
the president?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
How did they approve it when they'd be like, hey,
he with it?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Like now, that was a long process. But you know
he was a guest on my show Deep Cut, my podcast,
and it was around election time. Man, I try to
be tactical with I had a vision for it and
one of my mentors, this guy changed my life. This guy,
Scott buden Nick. He works in prison reform in California.
He made arc Anti Recidivism Coalition. You know, we're working
(10:25):
on some stuff in the prison together. But you know,
he was a board member on one of Obama's foundations
years ago, and I sent him the idea maybe six
months before he was going to be here for the riley,
and I was like, Yo, what do you think about this?
And he was like, I gotta do the right email
that could get it to the right person, to get
it to the right person to think about it, to
get it to the next person that might think about it.
(10:45):
So it was like four or five months of back
and forth on emails, man and God's grace, Bro, I
was manifesting it. I remember when we sent the initial email.
Every day but I would go to the sauna and
I would be by myself. I would say it out loud,
I'm a couple ofack. Obama, I'm about a couple of tomorrow.
Would say it every day, Bro. So it was a
long process. But anyway, they said I had ten they
said get to the door. I had forty five minutes.
(11:08):
So talk about being nervous. I had to be ready
at my chair and I had to be ready just
to like clippers ready, cameras rolling, and it was like
five minutes of a wait, but it felt like an hour.
And I swear I've never felt like I never passed
out of my life, but I promised you right there,
I felt like I was. And then you would hear
his voice on the other side of the door, and
you would tell he coming coming. Hear when you hear it,
(11:33):
when you hear his voice, it's like it's it's just
it's insane. So I still, can you cut Barack Obama's hair?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Like?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What are your next goals?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Where do you go from?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
There?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Man?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Man like?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Man like?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I said? Me and my guy Scott, we opened the
barber school in the California prisons this year for the
guys to get their license while they're incarcerated. So, I mean,
I'm writing my first book. But I mean, I don't know.
I could never even told you I would cut Barack
Obama here, like if you ask me the same question
years ago. So I think God want to hear his
name on the highest stage possible, So wherever he gonna
(12:07):
take me, And I'm willing to go, And I ain't
think I'll make it this far, but I'm just shit hello,
grateful to be here.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So when you're getting your barbering license, like, do you
have to know how to cut.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
All the hairstyles? Nah, you really don't. You know, like
a lot of people cut really well without going to school,
and you know a lot of people that God licenses
obviously can't cut. A lot of people that can't cut.
But you know, you get your lives. It like earning
your stripes, right, No, you earn your stripes, you.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Go through school, you pay your dues, you can cut
your You could head anywhere cause you got your life.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
You could yeah, I mean, yeah, pretty much if you
gotta be Cause there's hours per state. So if you
get to their state, like North Carolina it was fifteen
hundred and twenty eight hours because there's only one other
state that got more hours of requirement, I could cut
here in like all fifty states except for like one
or two. So you're pretty much good. But man, get
your l's regardless, like anybody. If you chase, if you
(12:55):
ain't got your life back, plumbing, electrical, like whatever, go
get it.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Man, if I wasn't doing anything social media, then barber
and alone would make me be able to take care
of my family. So but I'd be wanting the kids
in Atlanta and the kids in Fayerville, the kids back home,
like man, pick up a trade. There's not too many
barbers out there. I promise there's enough hair to cut.
Everybody living ever grows. Everybody hair grows. Even if you
ain't got a lot, you gonna have to get something.
So and now they adding hair, so we could go
(13:22):
to Turkey, go ahead and get you a new hairline, saying, look,
that's the BBL for men nowadays. You go to Turkey,
you set.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
It, is it? Really?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
So having a train is so important and I love
how you use yours being a barber to segue into
so many other areas. So could you tell us maybe
some goals that you have for your podcast because you
also have a podcast.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah that's where we had Obama Deep Cut podcast. But
you know, the goals take to you know, make the show,
keep doing keep telling stories. Uh. Like I said, I'm
writing my first book, so telling my own story is
gonna be part of this journey too. But shoot, man,
I don't know, man, I just want to see the show.
I gotta have DC on there. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Man, One thing, I ain't letting nobody cut my head
A long time, but I cut you cut your hair?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, come on, you remember the first time to cut
on hair?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The first time, the first time, I had to cut
it all off because I messed up. I had me
and my nephew because I realized I messed him up
by cutting his hair all off, and I was like,
you know what, I'm gonna cut mine too, so you won't.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Be out here messed up by yourself.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But my nephew used to cut hair, so that kind
of got me. Okay, he never went to the barber
barber shop?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Where is that line?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You know? Outside? What's have you ever got cut somewhere? Crazy?
Not in the barbershop before?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah? Outside studio? You know how it be?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
If they pull up, they pull up, you know what
I mean? The charity event, yo, I'm gonna get one
too with the kid.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, I'm it.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
See what you get a fight again.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
About cutting it out?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Man, I'm not ready to get it off. I'm ready
get back to I.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Don't hair cut, you know what I'm saying. But I'm
gonna keep my hair on.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You know, it represents strength.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
There's a lot of work it is.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But you can hook me up, my little bitty bees
in the back.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
We get you to get together knowing no.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Man, we appreciate you for stopping through.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Anything you got going on, Man, make sure you let
poor minds know you, let eighty five know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You dig what I'm saying. And we're proud to have you.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Man, Bro, I'm so proud of you. Bro. You inspired
me so much. You have no idea. Man like this
is so dope. Bro. Noah, Bro, go inspire each other. Brother,
Thank you man, Thank you to these ladies. Man. I
appreciate the.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Con so much. This is amazing. Man.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
What backstage?
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Man and man, y'all already know who having and hot
of ship man, the hottest gear, the hottest apparel. Man,
it's eighty five South.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Bro, it's too many flavors. Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
When in the vault, y'all know what's going on.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Man, we got to.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Drop dead Fred red Man living.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
In my shitty Man. Come on, man, y'all know who
having this ship? Man? If I don't know nobody to
do it like good man.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
We're too wrong with the clothing. Man'll look at the NL.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
I know the folks don't get down like that.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Man, Come on, man go crazy, Man, I don't know
those folks don't get down to get that rom what
ain't hundred that just like that butterfly say, man, come
on then we got to fit.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Come on that.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Ain't nobody else doing it like yeh bro, Fred Pegg
got damn Felix F four one you f four one, you go,
craigle f one you ad n your Craig go crab
ben Ko crag and me got the motherfucker man a
man eighty five eighty five A pair of coo dot
com bro tapping.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Ain't nobody doing it like a bro? Keep it keep
it up like let let's let's stop playing. Don't nobody
to do it like a tap in
All right, you know what time it is? Man bad
Wood backstage? You dig what I'm saying. Got the beautiful
poor minds in the building. You know what time it is?
Third party? You dig what I'm saying up the eighty
five South TC, young Flizzle.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
But like I said, it's not about me.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You might have seen him on Instagram. You did.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
He's a you know what, he's the coldest white boy
I know. Man can come to the barbecue.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You heard the bar because a.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Lot of y'all gonna eat.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Y'all have cut so it's definitely gonna cut your hair
and it gonna be up to park right and dig
what I'm saying. Hey, Man, he's a good hearted brother.
You dig what I'm saying. And he's go viral every
chance you see him. Y'all make some noise for big.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I appreciate that, brother. Thanks you always carpet for me.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh way, Bro, when we saw you, we were like man,
push over man, especially poor mind saw you look at
it that way back, so we had to make sure
you stop through Man.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What coome Dreamville?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
What's hand it?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah? Appreciate that, bro. Have you been here before?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No? Nigga's my first time.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
What you think it's lit compared to like another festival?
What you feel about Dreamville?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Peaceful?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah? How to interact friends Atlanta?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
This would have been shut down three hours ago. Come on, man,
But you know it's it's a beautiful event. You dig
what I'm saying. And it's not about us, bro, It's
about you.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know we don't saw you on the on the net.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Giving out free haircuts, not only just giving out free haircuts,
taking the time out to actually get to know the
people who you're talking to. You feel what I'm saying,
allowing them to tell their story and then you are
giving off some some good energy back on just showing
them like it's really people out here that that kept
for him. You feel what I'm saying. So the message
that you send out to the world, bro, you feel me.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's appreciated and thank you, Bro.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I appreciate that a lot appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's appreciated. Like, so, what made you, first of all,
as a barber, want to give out free hackut?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
But that's your trap.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, that's how.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You make money.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Why did you say I'm gonna leave a barbershop to
go outside to give people hair cut for free.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, I'm for favor in North Carolina, which is Dreamville,
you know, Carolina rays Man. So come up from a
small town like that, you know. Barbara was my way out.
And then I moved to Lanta twenty nineteen from cutting
my mom's garage and favor of cutting my brother garage,
getting my license. And then eventually I knew if I
wanted to go to the place that I was dreaming about,
I gotta go somewhere that I could make that happen
(02:34):
at So Atlanta was gonna give me an opportunity to
jump in, meet people, network and just see success up close.
Like seeing a guy like you. I remember seeing you
at Bowlero years ago. You don't remember, but I remember
I seen you, and I remember I was like, Yo,
that's DC. I'm at Bowlero. I just moved to Atlanta.
I just seen DC at the Bolero, you know. So
(02:54):
stuff like that motivate me. When I get to see
that it's really possible, and a person like you, you
just a testimony to that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
So when the pandemic happened, I came to Atlanta with
a goal to cut all the rappers, cut all the
artists I can, and I did. So I got up there.
I'm charging one hundred dollars a haircut. It's it's cool.
It's a hustle, but for a purpose to inspire, I
wanted to do something that was more attainable to other people,
to everybody that could be watching. So when the pandemic happened,
you know, I couldn't do my thing. I couldn't cut
(03:21):
trap got shut down. So now what am I going
to do? I can't even get to a person. So
I just had to listen to what God was telling me.
Because I think pandemic was kind of a transformative time
for a lot of people. You really got to dig
deep and figure out what you're here to do. So
in that time, you know, I felt like I was
always called on to use my voice of some sort.
So during the pandemic, I started making small motivational videos.
(03:44):
Because if I can't cut hair or what else can
I do? Shit, I could talk, You'd have to put
me in the dirt for me to start talking, you know,
So I keep talking and I made small motivational videos.
People appreciated it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So when we.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Got out, you know, I'm thinking I got a passion
to cut, but I got a purpose to inspire. How
do I do these two things other because they both
live together and they both can exist together. But I
came with an idea like, y'all go give a stranger
a cut, and that'll be my stage to speak. I
won't wait for another person to say, all you got
another experience, come talk to my school, or come here
speak on this stage, or and now we need you.
(04:15):
I'll create my stage. And that was just a barber chair.
That's what we do for others. You know, that's the
beauty of making somebody laugh for give them a fresh cut.
It's like we're here to serve other people. And you
know I gave somebody a free cut on the street,
and you changed my life.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
A story, a story that can be impactful and that
you can learn from. Tell so many words, like so
what made you want to get into like barbering?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Bro Like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Y'all use half scissors, you got real clippers with that
with the guard and all that. Because I'm been in
both barber shops. Well, I'm like, ain't your clippers cut on?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
You don't want to that you don't want to cut.
I don't want to sing.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They like what made you start?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like, cause I'll be barbering myself, like what made you
want to you know what I'm saying, become a barber man.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I was just a hustler growing up, fourteen fifteen, get
my own money. And then you know, I wasn't into
school like most of us. I didn't want to go
to college. I didn't know what I was going to do.
I didn't have like, yo, I'm going to be a
doctor and aspire to be whatever. I just had a hustle.
My dad told me from a young age, a man
don't ask a mom for money. If you want to
get it, you gotta go get on your own. So shoot, man,
I was trying to figure out how to get it,
(05:20):
and I thought I had to go to college. I
thought I was getting forced to, so I asked my
my barber. Because I was working at the restaurant at
the time. I didn't want to work in the restaurant
no more. I didn't want to be the dude like
I was scared of the dudes in the back because
I ain't want to get to that age like I'm
in the back of a kitchen making pizza all day
like you know, and it's everybody got a hustle and
do what they got to do. But I was looking
(05:42):
at it like, man, I don't want to be stuck here,
you know. So I asked my barber, what shall do
to make money? He said, if you learn how to
cut hair, you make money for the rest of your life.
I was like, damn rest of my life and money
in the same sentence. I got to see what acted
on you. So I was that was gonna be my
hustle in college. So I started the beginning my senior
year of high school. And then by the time I
was gonna graduate, and I grew a passion for it.
(06:04):
And God told me that if I took it seriously,
with open doors for me. And that was the first
time I ever heard the word of God in my life.
Was he told me to take barbering serious and open doors.
So I was too scared to see my life without it.
I was too scared to see what happened if I
didn't do it. So I had to go back home.
I told my parents, like yo, I had already went
to the open house, got my college classes paid for
schedule picked out, I had the book back the lanyard.
(06:25):
I'm like, damn, I'm about to go to college. I
had to come back home that day. God told me,
you know, take it serious, and I had to tell
him I'm gonna go straight to barber school get my license.
And I had a small agreement. I was trying to
tell him I'll go to college right after, Like if
I get my barber's license, I promise you, right after
I graduate, I'm gonna go back to college and get
my degree. And the back of my mind, you kid, nah,
(06:46):
I knew I was Nah, I knew I was going back,
but I had to get my license, so they let
me go. And then, you know, I just try to
make them prou since then let.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Me ask all your stuff because it's like two different worlds,
I know for me and and wemen, like when we
get our hair done, know, we go to black girls
they do our hair, and I think it's the same
thing for you know, black men. So do you feel
like in the beginning you had to like convince him, like, bro,
I really know how to cut hair, Like I know
what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, it's all from
anything your work. I always speak for yourself. And you know,
my first cut was on my best friend Justin. He's
black and you know a lot of my friends growing up,
you know, we're also black. And I think that's just
what I was funny. You know, my OJ's a Jamaican man.
So the shop I grew up, the shop I grew
(07:30):
up in was Jamaica. So you know, I just had
good rules, good people around me, and man that put
me on early and you know, man, it's just I
love cutting hair.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, So then you know in the barber shop, he
stand out anyway. So motherfucker sitting there watching for them, like.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yeah, man, they got to see if it's good.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Bro, They're like you not. You're like, yeah, but I'm
gonna go to him right, let me go to here.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
So obviously you do a lot to give back to
the community, a lot of philanthropy with doing that. What
is one experience that you where you felt like you
were really making an impact on the community, man.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
One. You know, it's hard to pinpoint like one thing
that I felt like change everything. I think coming back
home for one of our givebacks and I being a
god bless man, the mayor blessed me with the key
to the city on my hometown, and I feel like
that was like wow, you know, I wanted to all
I ever wanted to do being a barbarous like yo,
show kids another way to do it. With a trade,
you could be celebrated and you can live your life
(08:27):
to the highest that you could see it with whatever
it is that you love. And I just wanted the
shown what was possible with barbering. So I don't want
you to feel like, you know, if you ain't if
you ain't as funny as this do it, or if
you can't hoop, or if you can't wrap, like yo,
there's some other stuff out there for you. No matter
what it is, it ain't lame to cut. It ain't
lame to pick up the camera and shoot, you know.
So I just wanted to show people that it was
possible whatever it is that you love.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, who was like a moment like when you were
cutting their hair, You're like, Okay, I'm like cold, I'm
making it Like.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I cut Barack Obama last year.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Big flakes.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
That man, Old beezy man.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Get what he Wow?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
He was like nobody And that's a real nick. Yeah,
you got the president say only nobody cut my help.
He did, you could cut my hair.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I had some rappers and not want to cut. I
had some artists and I get a cut. But man,
when they told me he was gonna let me cut
his hair out, I lost it. Yeah, were you nervous?
Hell yeah, I feel like I was gonna put that
third time.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You were like, come on, man, it's like.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Right, So look I have I have forty five minutes
on the dot to cut my rock. So they said,
when he walked through the door, your cameras gott to
roll on the time of gonna start, but you gotta
be ready for the walk through. You know how production
is okay before before you get to the story.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
How do you even set up a meeting to cut
the president?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
How did they approve it when they'd be like, hey,
he with it?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Like now, that was a long process. But you know
he was a guest on my show Deep Cut, my podcast,
and it was around election time. Man, I try to
be tactical with I had a vision for it and
one of my mentors, this guy changed my life. This guy,
Scott buden Nick. He works in prison reform in California.
He made arc Anti Recidivism Coalition. You know, we're working
(10:25):
on some stuff in the prison together. But you know,
he was a board member on one of Obama's foundations
years ago, and I sent him the idea maybe six
months before he was going to be here for the riley,
and I was like, Yo, what do you think about this?
And he was like, I gotta do the right email
that could get it to the right person, to get
it to the right person to think about it, to
get it to the next person that might think about it.
(10:45):
So it was like four or five months of back
and forth on emails, man and God's grace, Bro, I
was manifesting it. I remember when we sent the initial email.
Every day but I would go to the sauna and
I would be by myself. I would say it out loud,
I'm a couple ofack. Obama, I'm about a couple of tomorrow.
Would say it every day, Bro. So it was a
long process. But anyway, they said I had ten they
said get to the door. I had forty five minutes.
(11:08):
So talk about being nervous. I had to be ready
at my chair and I had to be ready just
to like clippers ready, cameras rolling, and it was like
five minutes of a wait, but it felt like an hour.
And I swear I've never felt like I never passed
out of my life, but I promised you right there,
I felt like I was. And then you would hear
his voice on the other side of the door, and
you would tell he coming coming. Hear when you hear it,
(11:33):
when you hear his voice, it's like it's it's just
it's insane. So I still, can you cut Barack Obama's hair?
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Like?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What are your next goals?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Where do you go from?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
There?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Man?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Man like?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Man like?
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I said? Me and my guy Scott, we opened the
barber school in the California prisons this year for the
guys to get their license while they're incarcerated. So, I mean,
I'm writing my first book. But I mean, I don't know.
I could never even told you I would cut Barack
Obama here, like if you ask me the same question
years ago. So I think God want to hear his
name on the highest stage possible, So wherever he gonna
(12:07):
take me, And I'm willing to go, And I ain't
think I'll make it this far, but I'm just shit hello,
grateful to be here.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So when you're getting your barbering license, like, do you
have to know how to cut.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
All the hairstyles? Nah, you really don't. You know, like
a lot of people cut really well without going to school,
and you know a lot of people that God licenses
obviously can't cut. A lot of people that can't cut.
But you know, you get your lives. It like earning
your stripes, right, No, you earn your stripes, you.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Go through school, you pay your dues, you can cut
your You could head anywhere cause you got your life.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
You could yeah, I mean, yeah, pretty much if you
gotta be Cause there's hours per state. So if you
get to their state, like North Carolina it was fifteen
hundred and twenty eight hours because there's only one other
state that got more hours of requirement, I could cut
here in like all fifty states except for like one
or two. So you're pretty much good. But man, get
your l's regardless, like anybody. If you chase, if you
(12:55):
ain't got your life back, plumbing, electrical, like whatever, go
get it.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Man, if I wasn't doing anything social media, then barber
and alone would make me be able to take care
of my family. So but I'd be wanting the kids
in Atlanta and the kids in Fayerville, the kids back home,
like man, pick up a trade. There's not too many
barbers out there. I promise there's enough hair to cut.
Everybody living ever grows. Everybody hair grows. Even if you
ain't got a lot, you gonna have to get something.
So and now they adding hair, so we could go
(13:22):
to Turkey, go ahead and get you a new hairline, saying, look,
that's the BBL for men nowadays. You go to Turkey,
you set.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
It, is it? Really?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
So having a train is so important and I love
how you use yours being a barber to segue into
so many other areas. So could you tell us maybe
some goals that you have for your podcast because you
also have a podcast.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah that's where we had Obama Deep Cut podcast. But
you know, the goals take to you know, make the show,
keep doing keep telling stories. Uh. Like I said, I'm
writing my first book, so telling my own story is
gonna be part of this journey too. But shoot, man,
I don't know, man, I just want to see the show.
I gotta have DC on there. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Man, One thing, I ain't letting nobody cut my head
A long time, but I cut you cut your hair?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, come on, you remember the first time to cut
on hair?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The first time, the first time, I had to cut
it all off because I messed up. I had me
and my nephew because I realized I messed him up
by cutting his hair all off, and I was like,
you know what, I'm gonna cut mine too, so you won't.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Be out here messed up by yourself.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But my nephew used to cut hair, so that kind
of got me. Okay, he never went to the barber
barber shop?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Where is that line?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You know? Outside? What's have you ever got cut somewhere? Crazy?
Not in the barbershop before?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah? Outside studio? You know how it be?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
If they pull up, they pull up, you know what
I mean? The charity event, yo, I'm gonna get one
too with the kid.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, I'm it.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
See what you get a fight again.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
About cutting it out?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Man, I'm not ready to get it off. I'm ready
get back to I.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Don't hair cut, you know what I'm saying. But I'm
gonna keep my hair on.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You know, it represents strength.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
There's a lot of work it is.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But you can hook me up, my little bitty bees
in the back.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
We get you to get together knowing no.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Man, we appreciate you for stopping through.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Anything you got going on, Man, make sure you let
poor minds know you, let eighty five know.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You dig what I'm saying. And we're proud to have you.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Man, Bro, I'm so proud of you. Bro. You inspired
me so much. You have no idea. Man like this
is so dope. Bro. Noah, Bro, go inspire each other. Brother,
Thank you man, Thank you to these ladies. Man. I
appreciate the.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Con so much. This is amazing. Man.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
What backstage?
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Man and man, y'all already know who having and hot
of ship man, the hottest gear, the hottest apparel. Man,
it's eighty five South.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Bro, it's too many flavors. Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
When in the vault, y'all know what's going on.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Man, we got to.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Drop dead Fred red Man living.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
In my shitty Man. Come on, man, y'all know who
having this ship? Man? If I don't know nobody to
do it like good man.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
We're too wrong with the clothing. Man'll look at the NL.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
I know the folks don't get down like that.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Man, Come on, man go crazy, Man, I don't know
those folks don't get down to get that rom what
ain't hundred that just like that butterfly say, man, come
on then we got to fit.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Come on that.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Ain't nobody else doing it like yeh bro, Fred Pegg
got damn Felix F four one you f four one, you go,
craigle f one you ad n your Craig go crab
ben Ko crag and me got the motherfucker man a
man eighty five eighty five A pair of coo dot
com bro tapping.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
Ain't nobody doing it like a bro? Keep it keep
it up like let let's let's stop playing. Don't nobody
to do it like a tap in
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