Devin Haney in the Trap!

Devin Haney, the undisputed lightweight boxing champion of the WORLD is in the Trap!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Who you want to fight, man, I mean I want
to fight. I want to fight everybody you want to fight.
But really a southingt man, I'm the chat they should
want to fight me. I like le. I like that
speaking to wish. Welcome back to the fire. We've been

(00:32):
kicking so much as longly. Ghetto legends too. Come on,
now we figured we should bring a ghetto legend in
here who we're kicking people as vicious. The nigga don't
even need no loan intro nigga. All I'm gonna say,
ain't nobody to beat. Come on, whenever they see his

(00:56):
father like that, they're getting the ring with chicko things
like that when I posted, yeah, because I get tanged

(01:16):
and all the ship that they want to tell that
time like no man, none other thing. The young legend
Devin hand go, let's go. Let's go. Man. Before we
even getting talking about this box and ship talk, let's
talk to San Francisco ship. Yeah. I mean I was

(01:37):
born in San Francisco, but you know I'm from Oakland.
Yeah on the town. I think was about to get
into that right. Yeah, So it's town business over here.
My mama from spis called my post open, so you know,
I still got both both times coming from from home,
and y'all got some some you know, rich history with

(01:58):
the fighters out of opening, Like do you feel like
that's you know, more pressure on you to be one
of the greatest because you know, you got a couple
of people that come out to tail. We got some,
we got some good fighters. But I just feel like, no,
nobody really like get it out of Oakland, Like nobody
really carried Oakland, like like like I'm like I'm doing,
especially at such a young age, like putting it on

(02:18):
the back. Of course, andre Ward, That's what I was
just about to say. Nobody like really like took it.
Took it there, bro, What got you in the fight game?
When I was young, I was fighting a lot of school.
My dad took me to the gym one day because
he like, you know, I got to fight at school.
He like, if you want to keep fighting at school,
gonna take it to the gym. You're gonna get beat
up every time you keep fighting. I'm gonn keep bringing
you back to the gym and you will get beat

(02:39):
up at the end of gym. And it didn't work.
I mean, he wanted you to come to the gym.
J Yeah, but it didn't work because you know, I
want some some niggas asked in the gym, and then
I started fighting in the school and ship, so it
didn't work. When you got it, he was like, yeah,
I just need somebody answer, Ye okay, do like you

(03:09):
know that crazy that pronuct was this little they canna
win it. Damn we don't brown the channel'll be getting
tested though, yeah the same sh that cool. We can't

(03:31):
do ship with me. While you brought it down here
being being a fighter in the game now like it's
it's a lot of it's different than what it was.
I'm sure you know. You know as a as a fighter,
you're probably a fan of the sport. Like do you
think that the intensity of boxing and what boxing was,
let's saying in the nineties or the eighties, with your

(03:53):
history and aspect of knowing the sport, do you think
it will ever get back to that as far as
get back to what I mean as far as the
intensity to being a number one sport, Like you know,
boxing at one point, like everybody was, all the big
fights were made, everybody who was somebody I'm talking about
the Duran's versus the sugar rays versus the you know
what I mean, all of that type with the with
the guys, it's not so much of a business all

(04:15):
the time was like the two best people getting the
ring and fight for the sake of the boxing. Um. Yeah,
I mean, it's way more money in the squart of
boxing now, so of course it's gonna be even more
of a business than it was back in the day.
They were fighting for like chrombs compared to what we're
fighting for these days, So of course it's gonna be
way more business in it. And but I do feel
like the bestest fighting the best. We got more understood

(04:36):
the champions than probably ever before, like you know, guys
who unifying the whole division. So um, we may not
like you know, fully like respecting now, but eventually, like
from years down the line, we're gonna we're gonna look
back and say like this was a good era of boxing. Okay,
So who was the fight that that you want to
see as a fan not just as a you know,

(04:58):
it's two fights I want to see. I want to
see Deonte Wilder and Anthony Johnshure and I want to
see and I want to see Bud and Spence Spence. Yeah,
that's the one I want to But I also want
to see Ryan Garcia and Javonte Day. I want to
want to see you fight them. I would love to

(05:19):
fight either one of them. You have a spot in
the Yeah, spark a spark Tank and I spark Ryan.
So when y'all be sparring, do y'all y'all be trying
to speak each other out or y'all to be going
in there blue for blow? Yeah, I mean we should.
I look at sparring like a fight, like, because what
you're gonna do in Spain the same thing you're gonna
do in the fight. You can't just like turn to
switch on and turn it off. What they doing practice,

(05:42):
he gonna do in the game. So that's that's how
I feel. So I take spawn serious. I'm trying to
knock it again. Who we go? Good? What do you
mean me? But that's why I love boxing, because both

(06:04):
of them. Biggs, he was sitting right there that nig.
That's what we all don't talk about, right because I mean,
as the day, it's it's it's it's practices, it's sprange.
They say, what's done it They're just supposed to stay
in Jim, But I mean, this is how you bring fights,

(06:25):
this is how you do it. But back on what
Chico said, like looking at how Boston is now, it's
got like different avenues, different ranges and ship. Like my
brother was a big boxing friend. That's how I knew
about Boston because he probably bought every fight. Every He
sat in the front with his recliner eating the state,
watching Sugar Ray all these niggas. And it's like when

(06:49):
you see like to Jake Paul's and ship going on
in the celebrity boxing, how do y'all feel about this?
Because exhibition I mean, but he the first one who
took it. It was like, I'm gonna be the main
front of the ex submission fights and called out and yeah,

(07:11):
but now he's fighting for real, so I mean, he
just it was like you know, a gateway and he
bought like way more eyeballs to the sport of boxing,
and so you gotta respect it. He actually could fight.
He actually really taking a ship serious, so you're gonna
respect it. I mean. But with that being said, like
the level of competition is always something that's you know,
talked about in boxing, like they always say you're fighting

(07:32):
cab drivers, You ain't fighting nobody that really got the
skill set to really challenge you. Do you think that
on that side of the game, the exhibition side, even
though it's bringing eyeballs, do you think that it hurts
the sport because guys who got the opportunity to really
turn up and fighting him with the skill set on
getting those opportunities. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
That's a tough question because at the end of the day,

(07:55):
he really not even a real fighter, for real, for real, Like,
I mean, he keeps making this transition, so but he's
not really a real fighter. So he talked like one
because he trying to make his transition. He marketing himself
better than a lot of other people. Is so you
got I disrespect what he's doing for real, for real.
What makes you a professional and what makes you not?

(08:16):
Because right now, even with exhibitions, right yeah, I mean
begin televised wing ass, we're making money like the boxes.
What makes it different? Yeah, I mean it's different when
you when when you actually a pro, you the gloves
get smaller. Um, the rules is different. I mean when
the exhibition you can make up the rules. However, however,

(08:37):
the gloves they'd be fighting with like sixteen hours gloves.
When you when it's a pro fight, a real pro fight,
you fight with eight hours gloves. You know what I'm saying,
That ship is sanction is totally different. Boy is really
the gloves is not to protect the fighters, that's to

(08:59):
really protect at your hand, That's what I'm saying. So
it's more glove than eight hours gloves. But he ever
get hit with one of them, you likes in that gloves.
We heard it so mad. That tired me. Nigga, Like
when they have missed you here that ship like shot
going to cross that ship. The big of the glove,

(09:22):
the heart of the Yeah, I don't want to glood glove. Man,
I never forget bro. We was fighting. I was where
I really started because the nigga was staring ship with
my little nephew and he went from my neighborhood. So
I was like, a nigga, you're gonna put the gloves
on off the punch your And he was laughing like
I'm like I'm putting the gloves on im. Like, nig

(09:45):
you don't put them on. I'm just gonna punch your
ass anyway. So when I put them on, I started
walking thore that. He was like, all right, we put
them on right. I'm beating him. I'm beating him. Poo.
I don't know where this motherfucker came. I don't know
where his right hand came. When he came when this
need to hit me? All I heard in the whole

(10:05):
neighborhood was like, but here here, I'm like, I need
to be looking this way, and you feeling So I
knew from a fist and the glove that was too different.
Now I got hit with a fist and that was
the hard of ever got hit in my life with
a glove. And it was almost because you just got
more one more texture, so you could really just hit

(10:26):
a nigger as hard as you want because you because
you ain't got to worry about really hurt you. But
you still can. You know, I've learned just in the
way just you know, I got a boxing ship in
my basement, man, and it's like I've learned just and
hitting the heavy bag, specifically with the gloves on your wrists.
It's really with a pain coming because you got to
know how to hit that bag right. And it's like

(10:48):
you know how you however, you boil your fish and
however you hold your hands, you could be your knuckles
could be heard, your risk could be heard, could be heart.
Have you ever had any of those issues? Because you
know Floyd always knowing for breaking his hands and always
my after my hands, after my last time, my whole
hand was swollen like that. Just just come with it,
get used to it. Yeah, yeah, he used to get

(11:09):
used to it. Do they have anything like in fight
that that kind of helps you know, anything that's that
you did? I mean, I don't know, you know what
like hand raps, cloves that's it? Ain't then you can
do about it. Wants you start hurting, you gotta just
keep punching to them, gonub they gotta cut them unders
off anywhere? Who you watch like who? So minyo man,

(11:33):
I'm sugary fan me. I feel like I'm gonna sugar
all day every day. So like motherfucker's seventy six times
in a little and he didn't get hit. The motherfucking counted.
It was smooth. Sweety was one of my favorite Roy Jones. Jones, man, man,
that broke my heart. Now you gotta watch Sugar Ray Robinson.

(11:57):
They just a lot of his old faction like this
motherfucker was fighting with the camp Callawaito people whooping swooping
his ship at the way at the same time. And
the thing about Sugar Ray Robinson is like sixty of
his fights was before they had cameras. This film and
his fights and he was fighting, and I know for

(12:24):
me if he was Roy Jones fan. You know you're younger,
but I remember when this ship happened. Man, it wasn't
when he lost the Tarbert that broke my heart. When
that they got knocked out by Glenn Johnson with the
white gloves on. Man. Roy died. I thought stayed in
the hospital all weekend. I was scared head in the ring,

(12:44):
my nigger. I was hurt because they hit him with
the smelling sauces and he still ain't get up. I'm like, oh,
this niggadn't killed Roy and that ship hurt. I know
that was right after Tarer because he remembered that motherfucker
raising rudder. Yeah, yeah, that was the hell of a name.
I love all them, but I don't know. It's something

(13:06):
about Floyd. Floyd different, just different, mastered it. You have
a favorite Floyd fight, Um, I like the early ones.
It's a top for me. It's two different. I love
all his fights, like just the art, just the hit,
did not get hit like Florida Shaly that he got

(13:27):
caught because got caught, and then he just it's only
two people who probably really had a chance with him, though,
who I don't think I think you know why. I
think Pat had a chance. No, but you want to
know why. You want to know why. I think Pat

(13:47):
gave Floyd problem because that was that was the most
Floyd has been hit body wise. He was hitting him
like he was giving him the body. He was giving
it to him. But you gotta understand every shot count,
even if it's a block. You still hit my hand,
you did hit my shoulder. I don't even hitting him
my line. I don't think he packed. I can't really
do nothing with Floyd. Like I feel like y'all like

(14:09):
Lloyd did more with Floyd. Y'all see more than what
we see. To the every person, he's like, I just
hit you three times, but you like you ain't hit
him Floyd. Floyd most beautiful shots was him and our
tural guy. That man, what he did, what I study
before my last favors man, the way he did. I mean,

(14:30):
I'm talking about it was crazy, man, he was watching
me and my cousin always used to watch fights for
my uncle and ship. And after that fight, my always say, man,
it's two things you never do. You're never spitting the
win because that ship gonna blow right back in your face.
And you never bet against Floyd Maywell. And that was
the really ship ever, because that nigga is just like
he's just so brilliant in the ring, just as the
defense is the hardest part of boxing, because to hit

(14:53):
the motherfucker. Every time you throw a punch, you open
to get hit. So when you throw a punch and
you don't get hit, after you threw up bunch and
you throw three folk and don't get it, it's like
this nigger is not a human man like the ship.
Floyd say, when you come back to the corner, I
don't have ship to do with boxing. Come on, we're
going to the club after this dude, right there, kitchen,

(15:20):
all right, man, hey, j ware to six at eight
o'clock PM. Guess what I wanted to be in Northfolk,
Virgine at the Harrison Opera House. That's right me. At
the end of the day, the tourist come to Yo City,
make sure you get those tickets and come fuck with
your boy, because you know I talked to the type
of ship people like to pull up. You can watch

(15:41):
that fight before. This man just how he was just
letting his hands go like crazy. He didn't give a
funk about nothing Art two got. He had no respect him.
He just was taking it. Oh my god, he hit
that nible a six piece when he hit him to
the body around the back. That I was like, oh
stop it. But she just ain't I like about floor

(16:02):
right in his earliest stages, he was knocking niggers out
and then he was like, you know what, I damn
the knockout. I need to steady. He understood it's not thematics.
He's like, okay, I ain't the knockout. It is cool
that it may win you around a Guess what if
I throw more punches and land. It's all about the
school courtre. You don't even care. His uncle's and them

(16:30):
was his uncle and his daddy. Both of them was
professional fighters too. So when you grow with people who
understand the game. And that's why I want to ask
you about now, just having your father in your corner,
how much do you think I've an advantage. Do you
think that gives you having your dad in your corner
and give me a huge advantage to My dad been
there since day one, since my first day in the gym,
So everything, every everything I learned, my dad been there

(16:51):
through through every step of the way. So he knows
what I know basically because he learned the ship. He
was there when when I learned the ship. So so
he know, like it's like like he know where I
got in the tour box. He knows like like a
video game. He knows, he knows my moves, he knows
whatever what I can do? What's the one should? He
tell you the most? Man? He telling me something much ship.

(17:16):
So my dad, when I say we we studied the
job for so long. Like in defense, like I remember,
like my dad he used to set up like rocks
outside the house and I used to have the spar
niggers with no head gear and I couldn't throw, no punches,
and I had to just do work on all defense.

(17:38):
But I couldn't throw. Everything was deep and they could
do as anything that they wanted. So they used to
be tearing it up. I used to have to just
take it, take it. I used to be hot, mad,
going the house mad as fuck. But I mean it
just made my defense so good. Then he started to
let me do my jab, just my job, one thing
I can do with my job. And so I started
working the job. I saw my job got so nice.

(18:00):
It was the only one he would let you throw,
the only one he let me throw. You had to
make that big gloves on me. So I had these
big ass gloves. I can my ship coming slow, they spin,
they ship coming fast, they slipping my ship pop. I'm mad,
but it made my job. Wait, I feel I got
the best job. And they gave you a level of
composure because not getting mad and a fight, it's very

(18:23):
very important, like keeping your composure even if you you know,
I think that's something that you hit a big shot
and that's one shot you right, you know what I'm saying.
So what's the biggest shot you think you've ever got? Here?
With the biggest I found the name before halenard as
he like I said, he hit me boom. I didn't
even feel like he could punch Harden to that to
that time where he hit me, I didn't even see

(18:44):
the ship. He was looking at his own back. So
you see that, Yeah, so yeah, he hit me. I
had to hold all adver tires grass up, and what's
the biggest shots? You think you'd never hit the motherfucker?

(19:05):
And I hit the motherfucker. Damn the thought I killed
him hitting one overhand right and I got knocked out
of the year for that one because I hate that
is so hard I was doing named Tonio Moran. Damn,
I'm looking up. So how do you go pro? Because
I would think about going to the locker room after

(19:26):
the fight is fucking his face was like that I
had a stack of money on this ship. Don't understand,
Like that's the type of stuff that we gotta go
through to to feed our families. So even with the
amateur like anybody could be an amateur, that means you're

(19:47):
just trying to fight. What makes you pro? Like how
do you get qualified for pro? That's the thing about boxing.
We don't got to go through like a league or
we don't got to go through nothing like any You
can be pro right now, don't you need to fight?
They got some fights on Instagram that wouldn't dude, like,

(20:10):
I ain't got my brother. Get your man the list
so you can just sign up right, Let dad anybody.
Anybody can turn bro, that's the only thing about boxing.
Anybody can turn pro. But that means you can't fight
on the street no more. That's not true because your
hands are not weapon. That's not true. Yeah, that's a myth.

(20:30):
That's somebody that I thought you were a professional fighting
and you punched. That was motherfucker's that couldn't fight the live.
My hands work registered weapons. Shut out. That's camps who

(20:52):
can't fight for him, be acting like he boxing. So
I go sign up at the boxing him and be like, oh,
now I can't fight because my hands are registered. Go
to any station and say, y'all want to register my hand.
And I just wanted to tell everybody who watching this ship,
don't ever find the neggatid Bucks ever in your life.

(21:13):
It's not My uncle got beat up by the neggataid Bucks.
They called somebody. Y'all got to come down. They called
my dad. They're like you gotta come down. Here in
the background like yeah, man, this nigga hit me with
a back. We go down. Now go to the projects
and ship. They're like, no, they didn't hit your brother back.
The whooped your brother? I see you, motherfuck hitting you

(21:40):
so many different stones like push me track, Yeah, I
think on the back. I know I got an kidding
ship shot me. That pain that comes you get hit

(22:01):
the it's one you get hit the faces, get hit
in the face. But that bye hit nig in to
the body. That's that weird nig Kenney's I feed on
my say, the boy said, Rodney Williams ting to you,
my nigg that's parents. That made me feel on my Yeah,

(22:26):
nigga Rode, they made you piss on yourself. Yeah it was.
I mean it was in a fight. He was boxing.
But yes, sir, did you peep then or you keep on?
There's no there's no there's no pause in the miss.
It comes immediately. You got to hit you like, who's
pet nigger man out? Then we're fighting and I threw

(22:46):
a miss to hit me right here, fop down, the leg,
the boom, everything. I'm just on that bench. Und He
felt so bad. It was like, bro, you good. You
don't want to never make that noise. Man, You ever
hit and the and make that noise that that's everything's done.

(23:12):
You're on your way to see you kiss blood if
you get Yeah, that's them. You get hit so hard
your body's immediate response is the pissing your body. Sure
ship that with a game that body before that body
different man the chain, you get hitting the chain to

(23:33):
sleep or you get dropped that body when you sitting,
they get hitting the bodies laugh at you in the body.
And so what at how many niggas average things, you know,
just going home and doing some sit up before they
go to sit something A body trying out? You care
about it? The head You're like, yeah, I'm talking about Yeah.

(23:58):
The noise that you are nigg on, it's gonna be that.
You're gonna doubt you, nigga. That's why I got asked.
You couldn't ask. They're gonna like pick me. You're tripping. Yes,
you had one knocked out, you man? And you guys

(24:20):
who a spa in sparing though sparing fights? Real? How
you weren't do that that to help me? She is
that how you work? You gotta stay relaxed. You gotta breathe,
your man relaxed me. You can bring how you did
not breathe? N you can't breathe. You can breathe. When
I happened was all of the air got knocked out
of you? Nigger? You need to get that air bad.

(24:42):
You need to breathe, and he's coming back to here
you again. I don't have told that, nigga weak. Let
me breathe. Yeah, he absolutely right. You can breathe. That
ship just hurt like a mother, like all your It's
like sonic that knocked all the rings out you. So
what did that mean? When the knocks out of it's
like your lungs trying to grasp. Literally, that don't air.

(25:07):
I got hit like I got hit like Mack Nigga.
He was slow too, but he hit. And I don't
know why he was playing football with us, but he
was probably like fifteen and were like twelve. He hit me,
Nigga going, I'm just on the ground. Show the pads
hill Man they like, and I'm like, Nigga, I'm dying
k out of it. When we were doing football, the

(25:28):
coach pick you up real fast. He would grab you
by your ship and I think the coach did that,
but I fell back down. Yeah, like he tried to
get your He was like get up, never stop is god.
You want to see a fight that you know Banah
Hopkins and Delaya. When he hit de Laoiyas, I was

(25:49):
like negger. It was old with that bottom shot. Man,
that's that's one of the most treacherous shots you can
catch somebody with. Like, so what do you I see
lord a lot and doing the exercise. We're hanging off
the edge of the ring and and and it's that
for yeah, that's what that's for your neck and work
your neck out to where like you like like knockouts

(26:13):
be happening when you when like it'd be like the
snap back where you get punching and like you that
are equilivering your whole ship up or if you get
here an uppercut, snap your head and snap your neck backs.
He's working on neck to keep it strong. So it's
really the comeback is what's knocked you out. It's not
the actual punch. That's why we He was like okay, okay,

(26:34):
so like what's what's what do you think as the
boxes is the most if you can put in, you know,
make a list of the most important exercises or training
to do as a box of what do you think
those aren't put this nigga no playing together there knock

(26:55):
his own wind out his own self the sports man.
But I just want to get to but some my
I would just say expawing. Obviously, that's like the most
You can't beat that because that's just more situation and
everything like that's that's damn. They're like a fight. So
I feel like that's like the most important, but just
everything because you want to just dot your eyes and

(27:16):
cross your teeth. You'll never want to be like overly
prepared for you know, do a trillion sit ups, but
you ain't got no endurance. You gotta you gotta do
your road work. You have to do a sit ups,
you gotta do. You gotta do your strength, strength of conditioning,
training up to throw up brown none stop a real

(27:38):
street fighting me time about three minute? No, you found
that man for the thirty seconds, my boy, time we
were wrestling my nigger. I was so tired, we mean
to I had to sit down. Yeah, I've done them
boxing workouts. Them three minutes of just throwing punches and
moving and keeping. You want to know how long a

(28:01):
minute is? Fight? So when do you think that your
win is now starting to funk with you? Once? What
round do you start to feel? Honestly, my like, my
guys ain't crazy, Like I don't get tired like you.
I don't get tired like it's just something I just
don't do my fight. I don't get tired like I
always feel like I can go like five more rounds.

(28:21):
Do you think you round? That was Jack Johnson and
was fighting up like this. I'll leave leave fighting round
round shoulder or what they're still like three minutes, three minutes?

(28:42):
Three people? Now? Yeah? Now we do yeah, now we
do three. I'll do the championship rice three to a
minute rounds. Do you ever go down to ten? Would
you ever go back down to ten rounds? Or all?
Like the big, big ficy championship fights is all twelve,
So once you go twelve is twelve round your favorite
city to fight? And then you got one Vegas Mann,

(29:06):
Vega is beautiful. I gotta kill your fight. I got
Lucas man. That's one of my goals to go to
a fight. Man. That's fight man. You gotta come again.

(29:27):
How wouldn't go see Timmy? You know Tip Firm, that's
my boy man. I forgot, I don't know. I flew there.
I think it's Miami Mimi. Okay, I was there too,
the one he lost the house man because they was
saying they even gonna be the next continuing to fight
fun tap after that, what's crazy he could do that?
He lost to I thought that dude next really beat him.

(29:50):
Wherever be like this sometimes. So what was your first
fight in Vegas? What's the first big fight you first
Vegers I fought? I was in my third fight I
fought in Vegas. I fought up on the Paquia Versus
Bradley undercard. Yeah, you know the one they fought three times,

(30:12):
on the third time, the third time, and then I
headline in Vegas like four fights to go. Three fights.
To explain it different between being on the undercart and
men the headlight of what's that is? It's it's different,
It's I mean, it's just like a different Yeah, you
wait longer, you just like everybody there to see you.
So I was fighting in the daytime. When I was

(30:33):
fighting on the undercard, I was like four pm. Even
people look ship badly, Like my only people was in
there was really my family, like really like you know,
nobody in there. It was a whole empty arena. And
then when I fought, it was filled up. When I
when I headline, it was filled up and it was
off with me three How long you've been a professional Damn,

(30:56):
I think I've been pronounced like seven years. Yeah, you've
got that same it. You still got the same look after,
like you know what after you like you changed the
dream so long then you're like you're living it because
like now I'm like receiving the fruits of it. Like
you know what I'm saying. I was doing this ship
for free for so long, like doing it for nothing,

(31:18):
you know what I'm saying, waiting for me to finally
you know, receive like some money like I was. I
didn't start making money until my nineteenth fight. Before that,
I was, I was fighting for free, just like trusting
in the process on some independent ship. So now it's like, damn,
this ship finally paying off, like change. Yeah, I was fighting.

(31:39):
I was fighting in Mexico, did like all the ways
like my nineteenth fight, well often on but the majority
time that after my nineteen fight, I didn't go back
to Mexico. Why did you go down there just to
just because I was so young, I couldn't fight in
the US. They wouldn't They wouldn't grant me a botching
license because I was seventeen years old, so they didn't
want to, like, you know, me to get hurt and
then me suit him and when I come on Mexico,

(32:00):
let me, let me come over there, just like grown
men in Mexico. It's grown man forty fights round hitting you.
I have to around so I had a head so

(32:26):
you Sam team find neat gown. Yeah yeah seen fighting
grown with the kids almost knut. Know what that you
know that your confidence when you're setting and you're beating
the ship out, growing man, take it over? Give a
fun what they sing? Sir? Respectfully? Disrespectful fun, sir, that's hilaria.

(32:50):
I gotta answer question because I always everybody we got Yeah,
I know your little boxing. What is a underlying talent
that you really like to do? You some pride? Should
you be going on? You can't wait and take the
gloves off, like I can't wait to play these flowers?
Like I don't know, that's crazy, little I gotta think

(33:13):
about that. Only I can't really say just your ship. Yeah,
I can't say I got like aig like literally seven
since I was seven. Like when I say, like, I
really was like a kid that really like I ain't
go off yourself in the sports seventh grade, I dropped
out the seven grades to box like I really dropped
out of school in the seventh Yeah, because like I

(33:35):
knew what I wanted to do. I put my aunts.
It was no. Dad was like, fuck the grades and
come on, we're going to Mexico. Let's do it. Come
on the rest of the motherfucker's to get their grades right.
It wasn't like nothing like this is like something I knew,
like I had to make it. I was gonna make it,
like I really trusted in my talent. So like it's

(33:59):
really like all I know for real. So the highest
education you got seven that ain't delivered this I was doing.
I was. I mean, I didn't want the basically because
my butt is in the business, so I don't want
to I want to measure He get on his No,
for sure. But but just because what's school, don't you
don't to understand. I knew what I wanted to do,

(34:22):
so I knew. I knew what I had to learn
to be successful and what I wanted to do. I
don't need to go learn about some fucking geography and
some ship that I wonder why I need to learn
that for that. I don't know that ship. Brother, ever,

(34:42):
is he learned about geography because he goes all around
the goddamn globe with boxing ship you don't know more geography,
then you don't ask it ever learning. So now we
just got on his ask for not finishing school and
taking it seriously. Finished though, and my young so I'm
I knew what I had to learn to be successful
in this right and that's important, man. So moving forward,

(35:06):
like what do you see? What do you have a
goal like that? You want to see yourself as just
like an ultimate goal within the sport that you want
for yourself even if whatever you want from from I
want to be I want to be a legend in
the spool. I want to be all time great. I've
been saying soon I want my name to be remembered,
you know, longer than I ever will. So I mean
that's that's meant a hell of a name for yourself.

(35:33):
We got several no cats. I'm telling you gotta check
your own height and then you definitely got one. Your
name comes up a top contended when he got the
different like they got the what are the the IBL,
w B A A w BC. Now when you are
a champion in all those what's the what's what's what's

(35:55):
the difference between being the champion one and then being
undisputed like all the union assume, so like you beat
the champion one or it could be unified. He's like
where you'd be having like two three. But when you undisputed,
you got everything. You got all the belts. If anybody
want to be a champion, they gotta go through you.

(36:15):
They got to go through you, as in the person
who has all you gotta beat me. If now champion
in my weight, you gotta go through that question Like
if you're the sundisputed chap Let's say you're the undisputed.
Let's say somebody else is the undisputed champ and you
beat them, does that make you now the undisputed champ?

(36:37):
But it's very rare that you actually could fight one
person from all the belts. Normally you gotta pick up
a belt here, pick up a belt there, pick up
two belts there. That that's how you become trying to
think people have been it's been eight. I was I
was eight year a braun want tool all little thing

(37:04):
eight in the history of the sport. I think I
know Mike Tyson was understood that that hand he was up.
Floyd was under one was never undersoyed, was never unders
what what what? Belt? Didn't any what? He was a
Yeah he had you know a lot of different belts
at one time, but he never had all the adults
in the weight class. Zab z. What makes you understood that?

(37:25):
All four of them? So? Okay? So god damn it,
you got all for these builds. So what if I
just got one? I can't get the champion in one? No, no,
you you're the champion in three. But you're not understood
it You just in order for you to be the understood,
you got to fight the understand No, you gotta have
all four, no matter, no matter if you pick up one,
here say you fight one, him for one, him for one,

(37:48):
me for one, and here for the last one. You
know he got one, I'm dirt. But what if he
got one? But he want to fight you to be
under stud can he? You're not understanding if I got three,
he got one. So if you got three, you gotta
beat him and get all of them and then h okay, okay,

(38:11):
that's the only way to be on the street. Yes,
whoever got there, they could be four niggers that got
through four belts. Where can be up at the same time.
Can that happen not the same way class, but like
you got like little minor titles, but actually the champion,
oh man. And then you got that's how motherfucker's be that,

(38:33):
you know, getting ducked like a nigga duck. You like
somebody that has been ducked a lot, And it's a
lot of motherfucker's duck that I'm calling back. This is
trying to be undisputed. Some motherfucker's turn and fight down
just so you won't get all the bills for sure. Yeah.

(38:55):
Do you ever go into a fight? What has it?
Hasn't ever been a fight that you went into like
how old this one? This is gonna be one. I'm
a guy. I gotta make sure that I'm right on
this particular one. If you had that opponent yet, I
would say my first fight when I went to Australia
to fight for undisputed, Um, I just was fighting far
away from home. They wasn't letting my dad come in.
He was my coach. They was it was just like

(39:18):
yeah he made it right at the right then ye. Yeah,
they were working with him. The customs and whatever they
were did. The government was nothing, man, So it just
was like everything was just like like funked up. It
was like damn, like the right decision on my team,
but my cut man wasn't there. But I was like,
fucking want of that about yourself and came home with it. Yeah,

(39:45):
and when they tried to disrupt your process, you gotta
whoop everybody ass and be like who else want to fight?
While I'm over by myself? This mother say, when I
get on this plane after the fight, I would have
been talking like boze and I got my shirt off
like my dad. I don't about it. If I started talking,

(40:06):
it wasn't about it. You know. That's put another nigger
on the ball, babet around to tell you to a
blooming onion over that motherfuckerna wash this like it's not
like that. It was cool though, it was cool, but

(40:30):
I had it. I really had a good time over
there in Australia. That's why I really went back twice
because Australian holes here different. I ain't hit on it.
I heard they love n I don't see I pulls
you in America really pusy here, she say, I should have.

(40:55):
Did you see it was round, cranky, like it was
like wrestling the crow like I was all in the
kangaroo patch, you know what I mean? Like, you know,
you just you just put out a showing man. You

(41:17):
know I watched the fight. You know what I mean?
You did this ship in the fight, I mean the
whole fight. Uh, so what do you want to do next?
Is anybody you got on the ready or we're gonna
go see what little Chinko talking about. You know he
got a fight coming up, and uh, you don't watch
him and U I tell who I hold. That's my nickname,
little man Chinko. It was the time when they was

(41:42):
looking at him like he was the greatest ship ever. Yeah,
it was looking at him like that, but changed. But
what happened really's got the guy anymore? So, right, But
you know I will show him that, you know, if
we make the fight happen, that he's not that guy anymore.
That his time came. And yeah, I don't want to

(42:05):
give a shout out to clear the shield. She just
wanted she comes to. Uh, one of the greatest knockouts
you'll ever see is and Wolf when she knocked out
that big with them American shows on WHOA. You know

(42:27):
you can't asked me when your ship ain't even breathed knu,
but you're saying that and wolf knockout. Oh my god,
I'm trying to forget it, but y'all have brought it
right back to disgracious man and as a span of
the sport, who was somebody that you like, felt like
had a bunch of potential that that didn't get to
what you felt like they could have been like a

(42:48):
b like he had crazy potential, like he was the
next fucking like big next Floyd. That's that, ye be?
Like he could have ain't so much money in the
squart of boxing. But I mean he let the outside ship,
you know, get to him. But hopefully he could bounce back. Yeah,

(43:09):
I wanted to. I wanted to come back. I messaged
him all the time, like please, man, get back on
your ship. You deserved to be up here at the top.
You already know what it is, y'all. Hey man, a
gl the Gateway Center arena at College Park called the
Park Atlanta. You know, they was kind of we're going

(43:33):
to get legend, we're gonna discuss all that. We're gonna
discuss what's real Atlanta and what you know Atlanta? And
do you know all that? I can't wait to tell. Yeah,
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(43:54):
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all work them days anyway, because it's almost New Year.

(44:14):
So you know how you seen Christmas chick? Come on,
see spend that Christmas money, nigger, you already know, get
it out the envelope of the car by ticket, no cap,
that's what it is. And two days. We're doing two days.
So if you missed the first day, you ain't gonna
miss the second one. Right, you're gonna hear bad DeAndre

(44:42):
war retied when he did, man, I was like, damn slim,
Like why you I mean, you never know you know
what I'm saying, Doing a little bit. I wanted to
see him a haf in to take but you never
know what he was going through. Like you know what
I'm saying, We ain't in there taking a punch of
for him, so right, how he feeling and what's what's
called going on? So you can't knocking for returning? What's

(45:02):
the what's the guy who got hit and he ended
up being like paralyzed? He was he was a dark
It was a great continuer. It's on YouTube like he
was a great continuer. But he got hit at the
end of the fight and he failed. Yeah, like Preacher
or something pretcher like that ever occur to you, Like

(45:25):
you know how dangerous the sport is. Yeah, you're going
You're going to the ring now, I don't really think
about that, to be honest, Like I know, I know
how dangerous it is. But ship, I've been doing it
for us so long. That's all. It's all I know.
So I'd rather, you know what I'm saying, some ship
go bad. I'd rather be doing it something doing it,
you know, with something that I loved and Bush and

(45:45):
they could be out at the club or something happened.
They could be out sucking around, something happened. But there's
something I truly, truly love to do. So something gonna happen,
at least something. I gotta answer this because everybody want
to know. Man, you know, it takes a lot of
discipline to do this ship. How you stay off the pussy?
I mean, yeah, you gotta be strong to make it

(46:06):
loosely shut. That's why they that's gonna happen. They're gonna
pluck your and they fucking so you were about you.
You believe that you were bad, bad, that's for sure.
That's no. You can't get no boys. Like a lot

(46:29):
of people say it's a mental thing, but I believe that.
You know, I feel the difference when I when I
go fuck and go train or go spar whatever, then
when I don't, you know, the one second, Brould, you'd
probably be like, what I'm mad about about fighting that

(46:51):
this guys? Okay, I can you be angry right out
some pussy Richard? Kay, it's not. But I just feel
that ship in my eggs, Like you know, I feel
like my legs do be getting like a little weaker.
So you know, I do sacrifice, and you know, you discipline.
So right after the fight in the locker room, what
they cut these motherfucker's off. Still stay right here. So

(47:15):
what's so what's like the most Like, even though you
gotta have the discipline, what are you making sure that's
intact before? Because you know you got your jab on right,
like you said, you want your live right. What has
to be intact and be there everything? Yeah, what you
like you said, like you that's what we do. Like
the whole training camp, we're just you know, preparing to
be perfect on that one night. So ship, we're trying

(47:38):
to make sure everything is on point, like ain't nothing
that like we just be like trying to make sure
everything I want. I can't really say, like the dad
and I'm ask you about that, what part of that
you hate? Like I got all of it all the time.
I said that, Like that's the worst crazy I could
discipline from sex. You know what I'm saying, Like I
feel like all that ship is just moder like like

(48:01):
too much of anything could kill you. So you know
what I'm saying. I feel like, but when the dieting,
oh my god, that's ship. I mean man, yeah, all
that should be hard. You know what I'm saying. When
you couldn't wait, you'll be hungry, be fucking craving sweets
and craving fried foods and pizza. You can't you fish

(48:23):
grilled fish, like just hell of fish and chicken and
the chicken. But it's like if the food don't be nasty,
but you just be tired of it. Like now I'm
trying to go Eastern French fry. Let me get aver

(48:48):
that myself. But that's the part of it that I know,
just I couldn't imagine man, just the work in the
part of it because you love the sport, but that died.
You gotta think like you know, like once you made
it to a certain level, you eat at the best
restaurants in the world. You go to the you're getting
the best dishes, the best food whenever you feel like
it to where you gotta just one day about to

(49:11):
fight a boy to sign this contract eight weeks out,
I gotta cut all that ship out and go drink
a gallon of water. Fucking day. Ain't some drinks, some
smoothies and ship you like and you need to make
one for sure. So because it never a time when
it's more than eight weeks that you can do. Is
the highest the tier fight you give yourself more time?
Or is it always an eight week window. I mean

(49:32):
that's like the ideal time is eight weeks of like
just strict, you just locked all the way in it.
But sometimes you know, we know we're fighting nine sense
out of time. We know we're fighting like ten to
eleven weeks before before so we you know what I'm saying,
we start training ship, but two months eight weeks is
when you just lock all the way in. Run your
camp for you but team. But you know, I got

(49:57):
my dad, my brother and my older brother. Uh and
I got a bunch of coaches, got a nutrition is
I got the whole fucking stable. You know what I'm saying,
People that just help from for me to be perfect
for that one night. I want to ask you who
you got on your recovery team like that? Oh yeah

(50:18):
I got I got a girl who like stretches me out.
And you know what I'm saying, make sure all my ship,
my muscles, everything is loose and all that. But yeah,
you got to take care of you. But it man,
that's the key, because no fight you ever go in
like you just a hundred. So you try to be
and you try to be a hundred percent, but it's

(50:39):
just you're training so hard every day that you gotta
You're gonna get hurt, You're gonna get injured, but you
gotta have somebody that's that's there too. You know what
I'm saying, do the ice baths and you know beside you,
and you know, get the knots out and the kinks
and all that ship like the next eight weeks to
the next and coming ship and looking like Devin Nigga,

(51:02):
like the fundn't done. I ain't gonna do they. I
gotta do all work out. I don't pop. You know,
I don't eat chicken. I don't eat chicken, so I'm
gonna go straight with the fish. But you know what
I mean, I just like the challenge of it. That's

(51:23):
why I love the sport of boxing so much, because
just missing the mental challenge of it, it just makes
you something different, man, you know what I mean. I
feel like that to last, like I said, moderation, it's
good to just be able to like you know what
I'm saying, like just working, like get away from that ship,
like get away from all like the party and the
club and everything like just to Yeah, you gotta have

(51:44):
a strong mental and I'm happy that, Like I'm that
I'm able to do that, just to cut everything off
and you say, right now it's time to like it.
I got I just just just the food man. That's
the hardest part that died. That's why I asked, like,
because you be you know, we do ship like this.
You know, our job don't start till eight p m.
With being you know, entertaining the comedians and ship. You

(52:05):
get out the off the show and that you're looking
around they go some fans fucking and you know what
I mean, the fact that you gotta train yourself not
to do that. That's the hot everybody you see people
around you, they eat any they get the funking around.
Ain't no way, i'n church the negg. It's with that
burger that ship. You do that because at the end

(52:27):
of the day, it's your dream and your goals. So
you should be able to you know what I'm saying,
discipline yourself intaving. But my body going to starvation mode.
And I go from I go from cain't wait starving
to everything that I'm praying, I'm eating eating so my

(52:48):
body hold onto it so I can gatin way easy.
So what did you do tonight before when you came
out with the fifty cent the I need this to
I mean, I'm talking about that. Then they said from
that movie, bro, what I say? I was like, bro,

(53:08):
what then your jaw lane was like nigga, I'm like yo,
he was just I'm like, nah, man, you got to
understand that you got look that used to see you
ain't man. Actually on my bad. The closest I've seen
to it was in the UFC. It was not that

(53:31):
bad he was he was that bad. No, I ain't
gonna say it was that bad because I didn't say
you see your heart beat? Yeah, you know what you
like that? What the funk? Man like nigger? You look
like you was great kickbox. I'm like, nah, you eat
that night like to read to get back up to

(53:52):
where like that you had something that Yeah that whatever.
I gotta cut weight first, I'm already cut you gotta wait,
I'm you got you gotta starve yourself. See you know

(54:14):
you don't fly, don't do it. I'm already You're gonna
look like the crip. Keep when you stopped what you
listen to you? I wait, okay, before I had my
first job, wait, before you had your first like a woman.

(54:40):
Then I gotta do I baby, wait before I picked
up the way I had my first job, brod my
first job. I can't over like one F four. I

(55:01):
may get back in the one three, but I'm like
one five. So him weak easy easy see feet ship
one thing of facts. It's like a rubber something. Yeah,

(55:22):
I went through the kidshot screw. But if I don't work,
I don't do nothing all this ship two days. If
I work out a week straight, you will see the
tone of about two days. I won't. I'll be working

(55:42):
out so much that I'd be hungry. Like you know
what I'm saying. My body just be craving that. Like
when you got to eat all that you probably your
calorie intake probably crazy because you yeah, output you're doing,
you keep it. Do you have a personal chef all
the time or just only whet I go in the train?
I can't do I couldn't do it. I can't do it.

(56:03):
I can that what invites you give to the up
and coming fighters? Man? Yeah, I mean just stay down.
I remember when I was just like them watching, you know,
waiting on my on my time to come. You know
what I'm saying. I stayed down, stay disciplined, stay watching
the great, studying the great, studying what they did they

(56:26):
matterism and all that ship and uh it finally paid off.
So just stay down and you know one day you're
gonna your turn will come. Man, mean you coming to
the next fight? Man, we got shot a question? Yeah

(56:47):
what we got? I don't yeah? What about yeah? God
damn me, I don't know. I mean Marcus might daughter
was hell of a champion to fighter. I don't know
where you are now, but yeah he's yeah, now he

(57:15):
put up a hell of a fight with Floyd. But
I don't know where you know, we had spending that
money made off that Dren. That motherfucker's that got the
Portugal right now Levin? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he beast,
He beast. Yeah no, I was coming up with another name.

(57:37):
Uh what's my point of the middle weight? He was no,
not Charlot them the twins. It's crazy to the young
cat man the middle weight man will be best to
middle middle weight middleweight? Right, what do you look like,

(57:57):
young nigga? He cheesing how the time? I don't know
the nick name? Man? Who you know? You're no bossing cat.
You've got nothing to you. I don't nigga with gloves
man got he little young new young game. I don't know.

(58:21):
Wait you're not you're not bro, but you're not talking
about Earl Spens. No, what are you gonna look him
up a little right now? With glove you might go
you might be a different class. Did I bet who
young man? The young nigga man? A blackby cheat each

(58:44):
you want to core not no better way? You like
the way I said she? I don't think why we
know about Oh, they're just Wrongfeed you up fight whoever

(59:14):
there's the lost three young niggers. There's a lot of
young fighters that the sporter boxing has got a bright
future with your boys, man, because there's so many fights
that could be made. You know, Jamon take you know
it's a dog. You know what I mean? Ryan got
seea uh you know all of y'all man you had
with young talent talent. I think what people talking about

(59:38):
the next good place? Yeah, definitely, That's why I said
middleway you gang. He went up? Well, I think I
think that he only went on five pounds, so I
didn't know he went up. I went I think what
people talking about boxing falling off is that heavyweight because
I think y'all kicking and it's not really that's some
of the best fight it's not really just heavyweights. There

(59:59):
go what I'm saying, we don't have like the only
heavyweight that we really got and that's what I think
the masses be looking at, Like you say, this is
some of this is prime. Were all young, Like the
top niggas is never seen nothing like this like young niggas.

(01:00:24):
It's the the young generation. Old niggas is like the
they're going out like the only like older like like
but ears like they're like o g s in the sport.
That's crazy, right, the early thirties and how you feel
a yeah, both of them like they go but okay,

(01:00:46):
how do you feel about mother? They go crazy, but
don't get talked about them enough, like they ain't the
top contenders markets just yeah, that's just boxing. It's happening
every sport that's football is niggas and football that's the truth.
They don't get talked about enough basketball. That's just what
is it. That's just anything. You know what I'm saying.
His niggas would be really really like the truth and
whatever it is, but like them, Yeah, same thing with Connor. Yeah,

(01:01:09):
this ship like and then and then and they need
to be somebody at the top who read who you like?
He really not even like that, That's what I'm telling
like that, Yeah, I just I just that in my
in my confused didn't you did you spat Floyd? Floyd? Yeah?

(01:01:29):
I was that. It was good work. It was good work?
Was it? Like what you like? Okay? This o man,
that ship was like crazy. I couldn't believe it the
first round. I don't want to know about round the
first round across the first round, like cross Floyd over
that moment when I like, I was like, like it

(01:01:50):
just didn't even matter no more, like who was in
there and like Floyd whoever? I just started to do
me like it was like it was anybody else you like, yeah,
for sure? He really that works? He really like yeah
hell yeah. And I appreciate it, flip for he was
giving me the opportunity. What I'm saying, like, that's like
you that's being able to play Michael Jordan one on

(01:02:12):
tell us that's a stramb to tell people like it
was it set up, but it was like you want
to he said, come on, no, it was That's kind
of how it was I was in the gym one day,
Flay was in there and he was like Flay was
like love up, like let's let's let's get him. No,

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I didn't gonna hold you. I would be like, hey man,
let run take this dragging off the real quick right there,
the nigger guy. Damn, I don't get myself together. But yeah,
but that's like that's a show on the Hot. I
know he respected Joe Hot for being able to get
in there with him, like like you know that like
when I got in there, I wasn't scared like I

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would in like like I didn't give Floyd to respect
like he was Floyd. I thought him like he was
anybody else. So that was like, you know, I knew
that he respected. To this day, he gonna he's gonna
respect that about me. Like he went in there and
he was trying to really come because they probably show
herself and you know what I mean because at one
point he told me that was trying to you're gonna
be all right where he might have called it one

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that he was like this thing don't give You're serious,
so he wouldn't say he didn't have another nigga boy,
you know. The fun so you represented. Can you're a
young boy, Hey, who's the money? No money like that.

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Don't hit at it, motherfucker. Don't hit him. This is
goddamn like work. I think. Hit him. Don't he screwed
because we don't talking talking look trying to come lookin' that.

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This ain't that HBO and this motherfucker know that. Just
don't hate. We got someplay when they're back. Don't go
in there trying to get this. Ain't that you trying
to be you? I need you to go what we want,
not be so you you you got your own team

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because you know flog out here. You know they represented
you know people that's up on the floor, and you
can tell like the people that's up on the floor
they about to go crazy. What makes you stand out?
I'm gonna market myself and I'm gonna do my own
really Floyd, to be honest, like just seeing his falling
his blueprint and I just did it at a way
your age. I was able to, you know, get the
game early. And that's what I was like, fuck it.

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Like the deals I was being offered, It's wasn't like
I just knew I was worth you have promoter, but
um so what I did was you know, me, my dad,
We was like fuck it, like let's just just wait.
And the deals that they're offering you now if we
it can't be the same deals with you twelve and
Petina know it got to be getting better. It can't

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get it can't be the same if you oh you know.
So we just held out until we found that right
deal and that was when we signed. But we did
a co promotional deal so where it was my company
and their company together instead of just me signing my
whole everything. Just you know what I'm saying, she's giving
him everything. And at that boxing business man, you know,
I gotta give a salute to al hayman Man just

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because a lot of people don't recognize him as a businessman,
but Slim got his hands and so much ship, especially
with boxing and just understanding the promotion of fighting because
it's such an odd to promote the fight, you know
what I mean, to get people interested in two people
getting the ring and beating the ship out of each other.
That's it's a brutesome ship. So when you can market
into making something people want to watch and come to man,

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So you're taking that opportunity to do it on your own.
Salute to you as well. Man, hard thing and she
we're going to the fight. Man, give I ain't gonna
say that to the end because I know how that

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ship is a distraction. Don't look at me. I got
know what the man that fucking fight you they want
to fight. The fight is feminine, won't be I'm gonna

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be over in the corner with the thing of wings.
Every time you look like a nick you're doing your things.
Gottam wait on your boy, whatever your favorite man, I
got to put it in the food. Man, don't let

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it be your last time you said I don't don't
want you to go. Don't that time? Yeah? Yeah, So
like a catchway is like when like saying I'm at

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one thirty five, somebody at one forty. It's a huge
fight that we can make. So we can meet in
the middle. We can meet at one thirty eight, or
you know, sometimes you know, we go a little lower
one thirty seven, depending on who got more leverage. And
they do a catchweight to where you know, I'm not
getting the advantage. Probably that dropping you down at my
weight and you're not getting the advantage and making me
coming up. They do they do a catch weight and uh,

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but it still don't matter because at the end of
the day when y'all coming to gonna be But it
do matter because sometimes when you cut too much weight
and take away from your powers. Yeah, that's why. That's
why Roy Jones was that when he for on top
of that first time, because and then dropped all that
way to come back down, up and down, up and down. Yeah,
he was, he was. He was burnt out. He couldn't.

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He was lost all that way. And he went up
to he went to heavyweight. He gained a bunch of muscle, muscles.
He was trying to get, you know, bigger, stronger to
be competing the heavyweight. So then he tried to lose
the weight and he took away from this muscle. But
it regarding him now it too. That was like you

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g's why he said you got any excuses tonight because
when he came off that dropped all that weight to
come back down, they knew that, you know, just him
coming up losing all that muscle. Nigger, he was done.
And that first fight against Togger, you know what I'm saying,
like that ship Hog, Look, man, we appreciate your stuff
because they poo Bob del Sheet