DON TRIP & STARLITTO in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast - The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Be crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Bro, we got I can't help but say your name?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
How you rap it?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Start?

Speaker 4 (00:12):
Need all?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I got to said like that every.

Speaker 5 (00:16):
Time I used to, especially in my quote un quotes
groogs when I was that's all I listened to you,
y'all man, amongst others. But it was like there would
be the most memorable moments I remember.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Because I was trying to find myself and y'all.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Were like one of the people that will help me
with music. When I listened to y'all music, bro helped
me wanting like on this money. You see what I'm saying,
Like I need wrapping as money. I want the same things.
So like anything that was motivational to me, I always
made sure I kept.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Listening to it. And y'all were definitely one mole one bro.

Speaker 6 (00:51):
Y'all did that. So how did all that start? Squeare
one ship? I mean obviously with solo this so we
was already kind of doing our own thing.

Speaker 7 (01:02):
But we crossed paths just rab hustling on our journeys.
We was in completely different chapters of our stories. Like
I think the time we met, I was probably six
years from signing my first deal and really was at
the spinish line of that and about to pivot into
the independent space and then Bros about to sign It

(01:24):
was like right before he signed the interscope there and whatnot.
Yo got it was actually the person that ended up
like physically placing us in the same you know, same
room or whatnot. But I had met his music a
few months before, like a couple of different like a
couple of different people like put me on his music,

(01:44):
and so I was hip to it and then got it.
Actually made the introduction. I was kind of on my
last days in a partnership with him and he was
trying to sign Trip at the time, so he made
the introduction and it was really just like lightning in
a bottle. I mean, talk about it on the album's
on the outros called origins. We can't tell the story

(02:05):
and like song for him in more detailed, but like
right away, it was just you know, like I said,
our respected is peing and that they was called. But
actually working together just came so easy, a second nature.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
That we just we just ain't stopped saying.

Speaker 8 (02:22):
I was turned in five and you know, I want
to say the whole ship was It was initially Craig
idea to make it, uh, you know, to make it
a joint tape when we hadn't made it as far
as calling it step brothers or or whatever we was
going to do with it. But you know, we really
was just recording songs and at some point we looked

(02:45):
like ship. We got quite a few records and we
only I want to say that was like the first
studio session. That was like, you know, that was our
first time actually working with each other, and we cranked
out some.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Much music and like you know, our songs.

Speaker 8 (02:57):
Yeah, you know, we both realized right then that the
the chemistry was there and it was organic when you know,
when I first met him and say, hey man, let's
do a shipload the records together. And like you know,
even though the song said, when you say, let's become
best friends, it shit just it built itself. And since
since it happened the way it happened, we just embraced it,

(03:19):
you know, instead of I think in a lot of
cases it be uh, it be egos involved.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think I don't know how.

Speaker 8 (03:26):
It happened, but when we met each other, there was
no ego. You know, it was you know, it was
genuinely us meeting each other and it was. It wasn't
even meet meeting Starlito. It was you know, met meeting
Jermaine and him meeting Chris, and shit just clicked. And
since it worked, you know, we both viewed it the
same ways. You know, why stop.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
It if it's working.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
And even early on we knew what we were doing
was unique because in a lot of cases, when you
see groups, they either started together so they've been in
a group. But when you see groups that get formed,
they don't get formed from two people meeting. They give
for him from a producer saying, you know, I got
this idea, he go find one nigga from somewhere and

(04:07):
another nigga from somewhere and some more niggas.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
And put them together, and the fall apart because.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
People like I never fun with that nigga know that was.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
But we ain't have that.

Speaker 8 (04:21):
So I think that's why it worked though, because you know,
we met, we met on our own terms to speak.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
You know, it wasn't this is the most low key
nigga I know.

Speaker 9 (04:31):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
This nigga came to myself one night in Nashville.

Speaker 10 (04:34):
It's ain't what I gave a nigga shout out of
everybody in the crowd laved they didn't believe that.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
I ain't put him on blas to the end though
man had to.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's crazy like y'all style, y'all flow when.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Becoming an artist and you're trying to figure out like
your typical Scott like you said, you use individuals, so
you already know how it goes.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Hook Bird's hooked bird.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
When y'all do you, it's kind of like po Eddie,
You're not you're not listening to hear this.

Speaker 10 (05:10):
I don't want.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I ain't spending here this in the club.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm listening because I want to.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Hear what y'all saying. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
What y'all like, how y'all know that y'all were like,
we got to come at these figs storyline, Bro.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
That's what That's what might have worked right away. Even
the ship that I heard before I met him. He
might rap for three minutes straight great, like just snapping
from the time to be come on, and he's still right, no.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Face but.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
Down.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
I don't see the problem, bro, And.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
So I'm like, damn this nigga got something to say,
Like you know, I'm from Nashville. I spent a whole
lot of time in Memphis. Right away, I'm like, this
nigga the best rapper I ever heard come out of mythics, like.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Right away, and us working was like now I got
like a.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Complimentary voice too, like our stories ain't worlds apart what
we got to say.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
But it was like it was the lyrics, it was
the bars.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
It was a rap, and it was like literally like
that the movie you meet somebody that's just like you
in the regard to like take the the rap, the
you know, the yeah, the purist like we rappers, rappers
like we you know, it's the bars, like you said,
so you know, we can find a good hook or
but like on the concept. Then it's like you might

(06:32):
have a story to tell. This's got two different perspectives.
That song ain't ain't gonna be as interesting if it's
just me doing it. If I got a second.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Voice, you'll always bounced off.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
We would say something was hold up, hold up what
he did?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I gotta rewind?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
What a story regard?

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 10 (06:48):
Always my introduction the Lido, way back when you was
all starting and you had you came out. I think
my initial introduction might have been with the g Easy
Ship the mixtape Jesus You Had You and Jesus put
Some put some ship out, bro. It's like, that's that's
still like legendary trap ship in Atlanta. Yeah, they're fucking

(07:11):
the Great Goose.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
It was a time.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Everybody hoods No Great Goose. What the was in that
bird man?

Speaker 6 (07:20):
It was just affordable, bro, They made that ship available.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
They made it affordable. But nigga, when the nigga got
that Great Goose man, it's Finnish.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
Introduction.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's a part.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
We're turning up that letter to my son before we
even see the original. Motherfucker. That was hard.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I ain't had. I was like, dang, I feel for this.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
That nigga looks like he just went through that ship
right now, like for real.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm like, I hope that that was a real time.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
I originally recorded that the one on You two two
thousand nine two. I was in Team maybe two thousand eleven,
But my song was born in two thousand and nine.
It was a couple of months after I was going
through that ship in real time. Then the fucking song
made my life worse in the beginning because after I

(08:14):
put that regular out, when I put it on YouTube,
I didn't get to see him for the first year
of his life. It's you know, so it got even worse.
But then, you know, as time progression, it made it
where the song made me able to financially take care

(08:34):
of the people around me.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So the money kind of changed the narrative. I can
see them now. I gotta pay more now, but I
can see them now. So you know, it was you know,
I looked at it like it was an even swap
instead that night a little bit more.

Speaker 9 (08:51):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I want now.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Pain and fuck I feel, don't mention me, and none
of your little interviewers, uh kick me out.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Your little uh. But that's it changed. It changed the
trajectory of the of the relationship.

Speaker 8 (09:20):
Though it got real rocket the first couple of years,
and then later on maybe ship maybe like five years ago,
sho just started being.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
A little smoother.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
That's a good way to clean that up.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh yeah, you know, it is what it is. But
even with that, I think I said that last time
I was here.

Speaker 11 (09:42):
My my.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
My perception of child support is different than it was
when I initially got it on child support because I
look at it now, like you.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Know, my my my goal is to make sure my
son don't got to be the man of the house.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
And I ain't in that house. So since I'm not
in that house, I'm already behind the ball.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So I gotta do what I have to do this.
You know, I still have to do what I have
to do to prevent it. In order to do that,
I got to help in that house.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
Now I can't physically be there, and you know it's
a you know, it's a there are boundaries. But for
the most part, I gotta still have to make sure
things that right because when he turned when he turned seventeen,
and he can go do other ship and you know,
you know, you're only human. It's only so much of

(10:33):
your mama not being able to pay the bills. You
can take before you start trying to help your mama
pay the bills.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
So what do I do do?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I say, Man, I don't even ship. Ain't my woman.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
I ain't gonna pay, no pay. You know, I ain't
gonna help. If I don't help, then he'll be selling
dope like I was selling dope. Do you know it's
a new ship you can do now, But you get
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
He's only gonna saying, man, I already know what's going on.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
Let me get exactly because in order to keep him
from going down on the same road, I gotta extend
myself a little more. And you know that's an ongoing
battle because I got a wife and a child by her,
so you know, I it's certain things a woman is
never going to understand when it comes to being a father,

(11:17):
and you know, so for her sometimes it feel like
I feel like she's sharing her.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Husband in real time.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
You know that's a bullet I got a bite because
it's either you know, it's either that or I'm I'm
absent in.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
It in the but as as as a man, as
a man, you just gotta understand to let her know
that that, no, you're not sharing your husband.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I just have remunich with someone. But that's what I'm
saying for you. So you just got to understand that
so she might understand it today and tomorrow is the
whole different things.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
I got to reading.

Speaker 10 (11:58):
You know that ready to ask you this ship because
they changed the question. They be like, so right, put
the sou.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
In front of the question.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
They come up with a bunch every time. Enough, yeah,
but right, so.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
You know it gets tricky, but so far so good.
I can't you know, I can't complain.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I know in a lot of cases, if I don't
make it happen, ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
You know, I take it.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I take the builder with the sweet.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
The return of the investment is I get to raise
my son to be better than me.

Speaker 10 (12:32):
So whatever, that's that and so bid Let me ask
you all this, you know, being both solo artists, what's
the creative process when it comes to doing it.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
As a group.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
First and first, we were always in the sign room
with a stuff brothers wor like don't send me no
feature right, Like I mean he just did twenty four
hours twenty four months. But for some of those we
might send it off for like solo stuffcause working on
our own projects before. But these it starts with getting
in the sign wrong and like for this project, we

(13:06):
did seventeen songs and.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
It's sixteen of them mate album.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
It's like you're not just doing anything and throwing away
songs or it's like everything say right right, we're in
a certain pocket automatically because a big part of it
is us pushing each other. So I think we we
start with I guess beat selection and a lot of

(13:31):
that is nonverbal, Like I can just tell.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
When he like a beat. You know what I'm saying,
He's just get on apad.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, it's just initially initially, yeah, you know, I chimed
out as a conversation.

Speaker 8 (13:47):
You know, I'm in the zone, insane thing for him.
For him, we get to standing up, pacing and ship
we got something stop. Yeah, so we know when we
started doing. You know, we both can tell we're playing
in the beat. If I look over to him and
he ain't already up and moving around, Let's move to.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
The next one. And you know, we don't sit and
listen to five minutes of the fucking beat. That's right,
and we don't need that. It either grab you or that.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
And in some cases, and uh, you know, for other
Step Brothers projects, in some cases, you know, we got
to go through a couple of beats to find the
bill we're looking for.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
But for this one, I don't really know what the
fuck it was. But for this one, turns and ship
on first couple of seconds. If we're vibing with it,
then we go with that. If we're not, then we
let's go to the next one.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
And uh, some of the sessions even involved the producer
being present and they'll play a beat which was which
even that was all right because when that happened, we
picked the first beat they played. So you know, we
didn't say this is we didn't play in it. I
don't know what you're about to play. I don't know
what it's gonna sound like.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
And this shit just happened.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Excrew me.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
But I think what make our shit work is we
don't question it.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Like you know, we ain't sitting trying to We already
did this, so we didn't do this, so we should
do this when the.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Music starts speaking to us. Was just started, assistant.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
But I think it's I seen y'all live a couple
of times, a few just even online. I think it's
something to have the trust of your counterparts, definitely that
you're working with. And I would say what y'all do
is close as comparison.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
To what the way your niggas do them drop? I
told you last time, the whey y'all do them drops?
Niggas you don't they say you feel being fucking Alaska
January the third?

Speaker 6 (15:38):
You like Elastic January third? Writing songs? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
It's quite a few back and forth records, and we
ain't saying all right, I'm gonna write an eight and
then you write like I might just go in there.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Until I get stuck and then it's your time. And
it ain't even nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Say something that once you're stuck in me, you ran
right when it happens, and every other facet of the music.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
You can tell when you listen to a nigga and
the first eight balls is hard, then you're like, what.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
For crazy?

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Right, But he's just trying to get his twelve.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I ain't no need for that.

Speaker 9 (16:16):
You know.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
He go in and if it takes more than ten
seconds to think of what you for to say next
you're done. I'm gonna follow it and we're just gonna
continue that until you know to one of would say
all I think song long enough or you know we've
done it long enough.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
But that's what I mean, Like, we don't sit and question.
It ain't no no road book to this ship and
Joe that you.

Speaker 10 (16:39):
Can exchange like little secrets of recording with each other.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, definitely, this is how
you do that ship.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
I do mine like.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
We've been doing the ship since fucking twenty ten to
twenty eleven, so it ain't even no secret.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Already.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, it's kind of mean in the middle. It's like,
you know, I used to do ad libs like heavy,
Now you don't do them at all. Like at some
point I just kind of noticed, like damn niggas is
when't take Jay.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Back out of there. I'm like, so now I'll be
doing his ad libs in the background, him doing no
ship like that.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
But when did y'all realize, like, all right, we really
can't be on song with other niggas like other people
can't even be on.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Ashole like y'all. Y'all know, y'all like anybody else.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
We never had a rap feature on stuff. Brothers like
only features vocalists because niggas can't represent.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
But we do the records in person. Yeah, I don't,
you know, I don't have a thousands.

Speaker 8 (17:50):
If you came to a solo don trip studio session,
it's me and the engineer. I might have a few
of my brothers in there, but they got to serve
a purpose. You can't just come and kick and come
hang out. I feel like that's the same as you know,
me coming to your job and just chilling. You know,
I'm gonna just sit on fucking counter while you work
the register and we're just gonna waste your time.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
While you on the clock. I'm sorry, I'm about to
stop doing it. That was good for me to hear.
But it's plenty of ship. Just after Spight, I go
go to Walmartey sit and just post up. Yeah, man,
we'll do that in the studio.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
So what we're doing step Brothers records.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
It's the same deal ship for the session probably had
I have my brother, you know, make sure we don't
got to leave and go get ship. Cameraman and the
engineer and occasionally a producer. But that's how we work.
So in order to do a feature, they got to
actually be present that Kevin Gate's feature. It happened because

(18:54):
case was in the studio, was while we was recording.
We don't really I don't know, you know, while we
working that. No, at no point do we say, oh man,
I want to put another person in here.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
We got what we need, okay for these visuals, right,
I just got one recruit. You ain't gotta wear the shot.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
We already we were ahead of you. Next lost the
other day we wrote into the script. I just got
to figure out what to submit it for.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Y'all want in the video that too, But I want
to produce a video like I want to.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I want to hear one of the songs. You're paying
for it, so no, no, no no, I want to
produce the video for you mean direct directed the video
because the producers pay for Yeah, but what I'm saying
just make I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I'm playing, y'all.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, I want y'all gonna sing the song.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
I'm listen to that be I'm gonna tell you gonna
be the guy y'all can see that bit.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Come on, like you're gonna come on. Oh, I'm like,
you go here, ship start lead out.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I'm like, ship, it's gonna be a story, and I'm
gonna let I'm gonna listen to the story.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Know how you're coming.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
I'm gonna listen to the story. I'm gonna here the seriousness, dude.
You know what I'm saying, The severity of the ship.
You feed me, who's the problem, who's the trouble? Who
gonna save somebody? Cause be plenty of time, y'all niggas
saved somebody. Oh like these nigga really, brother, for real?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Being in the car, don't shoot them.

Speaker 12 (20:16):
I'm like, so, I wanted to bring on the bitch
in the light, like she's a movie already. Y'all been running,
y'all been rapping movies since a g.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Yeah, that's a couple of them onst that's a couple
of yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Putting this bed in and direct the video.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, sir, he said, produce it too. I don't know
what I mean. That's that's the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
I ain't coming for them to say, y'all got a budget.
I'm gonna go here to figure it out for y'all.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I just want you to blend me with your prison.
That's how I fuck with it.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
Hey man, welcome back to the eighty fist. I ain't
even talk to who we ain't here with today started.
We don't even want people who are not interested.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
We don't troll with people who just beat up here.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Just talking wet man.

Speaker 10 (21:14):
At this point, these ain't even guess no more family
this family, man. That's why that's why I start off
organic like that.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I don't know which camera.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
That's why the cameras.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
It was red, like any DC said he wanted direct
the video. You ain't even see the other cameras. He
ain't the podcast cameras. They think we just they think
we just look like this and something.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Producing.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Wonder why the audio snow kripply?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
We got microphones.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Ain't no microphone sitting right here. Understand you got motherfucking
the same.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
You see, Yeah, yeah, under cover.

Speaker 10 (22:06):
Yeah, we're doing big ship over here, Dainty fast Stamp
Show to do some big media. This ship ready to
be on TV already. We just ain't got the call
back yet. They think we won't stop cussing, no care
and everybody that cuts they got us flu up.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
We will come up with some new customers on their FLA.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
The T on the black and flat, the bn T
dal match for these lemon farmers. Man, you know how
we do it on Aty fast Stap Show. We're only
talking indeed to get a legends. That's real shipod legend

(22:57):
that get legends. Man, say that again, that's told legendaries.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
I FuG with that wrong.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
That means.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
They didn't when it's all ship and done, when they
going through the artifacts, when they're going through and they're
picking up the bones and ship.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Oh this was a real name.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Damn the window just the whole gtail the Boston the music, and.

Speaker 10 (23:25):
It was a message in that ship. Every time you
hear him rapping, they hit you with one every time.
Just said he's been a real nigga since he left
his mama offer. That's before she even got pregnant again.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
To come out, got to come out.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
You know you've been class that.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Help get.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, before I got here.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Ship.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
See niggas be thinking you're a realm but nigga, you
a real.

Speaker 11 (24:02):
Nig gotta be a tagpole, no cap nigga.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
We were tackpoles.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Man, Come on man, no cap yoah, come on man.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
But we got in the building, low.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Step brothers man. We got untart leader and done tripple.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Him talking about na yep, bro the nigga don't matter.
Same mama, different dad. It ain't that different MoMA, no matter.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Put it on the whole state of Tennessee.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
No cap Nashville, sho, no camphus Memphis main. You can't
say Memphis without saying Memphis.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
But they grade commify.

Speaker 13 (24:51):
If you just feel like it's just his own state,
you forget it's in Tennessee.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
That you forgot the last time we was in Nashville,
we had the white People ship.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
The four felling white.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Foe was in the elite, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
They was on some other ship though they was on
shooting basketball and ship.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, the white fo some mother ship.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
When they be when they get pink, they get red
and still.

Speaker 10 (25:19):
Pregnant girl your blood press, the pregnant girl in there
all the I'm talking about, she's pregnant.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Pregnant.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, at least she had twins. Hey man, she with
the oscerge on machine. She in the blood Come on,
be crazy.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
The cowboy black dude, it was no ost. We made
the whole song about him.

Speaker 10 (25:41):
She's making another up, the cowboy black dude with the
white woman, the one we did the song about what happened.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
I don't know. I ain't getting an update on. This
is what happened when you get you a white woman
ship crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
My boy Harry, call the call it and call the
girl at the at the show with a little.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Nigga that she was crazy.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
And then.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
Then he didn't bring you slipping with the other niggas girl,
whole love triangle his partner.

Speaker 13 (26:15):
He could wait to tell that evening he baby on
then bring me hot got so on the same I.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
Said, it's all the ship we having in that day
to fans sat the nigga did the hold back them.
That was in North Carolina. Wait, DC, you evil his

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health and stiff that. I don't even know if he
set that up or if he knew that was going.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
A little part from the look you feel.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
So he was alrighty, show the nigga, pull me to design.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
He was like, he ain't gonna believe it.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I said, what he like, brod here with a little nigga.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
She brought the TV for me and wo woo woo,
and he drew, can he keep bumping it to me
and walking back?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You feel me? I'm like, so? Was he like, bring
me out on? Stay bro?

Speaker 6 (27:06):
I wanna co front.

Speaker 14 (27:10):
I'm like, I'm like, no, I bring you a can
you know, nigga, you'm a pocket for nigga.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
You know, ain't nobody gonna stop it.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
If I'm telling you know what you want to do
it now?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
He's like, look, bring me.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
I said, look all right, you gotta put that in
the bug because we're from the hood.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I said, hey, what your agg got?

Speaker 6 (27:35):
Threty said say what the you gonna say?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
And get off?

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
That nigga went up.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
There and saying this ship that was so nig I
thought it a bullet.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Shit and he said that and then they agreeing to it.
He like, don't what your man, that's some of the
wildest ship I real He getting there with the other
nigga girl, the nigga in the front with his blade.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
He telling him I've been fucking baby. Whoa who?

Speaker 10 (28:03):
I said, just get back, get back five that five regular,
get us right.

Speaker 11 (28:12):
We have we even fight about everybody won't say what
they want to say anything.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
What it is? Everybody winning. Look y'all said earlier, y'all
did forty three. Ship is on the last.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That's a lot of guy.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Damn, I'm gonna do on this.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
We're still.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
A added today.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
And we ended the last tour in Atlanta, so I
hope to come back here and ship whatever, you know,
whatever the opening doors for. We went to Spice winning
no existing last round. I went to Bosman, Montana, the
colder and place for the morning, the more.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
More bangla dish from the producer bangladh Yeah, I thought, bank.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
That's what I was.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I knew that.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
He was on here a couple of weeks ago. He only, yeah,
we're trying to trying to go over man. Now let
me ask you this.

Speaker 10 (29:13):
It's a lot of a lot of music right now,
especially country music. They add rapport to the country music
and ship. I know y'all said y'all ain't had no features,
But are y'all open to do feature?

Speaker 6 (29:26):
What you meaning?

Speaker 10 (29:27):
In different genres with them? I'm just saying, in different
genres of music?

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, he yah. I've been doing some writing with with
in the country music line.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
You know, I'm in Nashville music money is made my
way down the music ro trying to trying to get
in Yeah, because I feel like my pen you know,
like you said, it's an artifact outlive me. So whatever
space I can get in with with that talent and
skills said, writing is right. Poetry is a beat behind

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the guitar cooling.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Taylor Swift gonna see this ship? Is she gonna hit y'all? Look,
that's gonna be back.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
But who inspired y'all? Though? Like going to the lane,
y'all went.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
To inspired right now?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Or inspired to start?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I mean, like to beat this talented you have to
relax and listen to artists you like.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
But it's different now than it was then. Okay, they
starting the right now, I can't much listen to rap
music that's understandable. I don't believe nothing they be saying.
But what happened? You know, I don't know. I think
I've been uh, I don't know it like I don't.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
I heard so much bullshit that it's hard to give
anything a try because for.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Me, it gotta be both ways.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
What you just said got to match you when when
it ain't no beat, when I you know, when I
bump into you and I ain't on no super macho
man ships, I ain't you know, I ain't saying you
gotta be the fucking gangs of the world and no ship,
But how you conduct yourself got a match. And in
most cases that don't like you'll see, you know, the
nigga that say stand up nigga, ya YadA yalla, and

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then he on fucking Twitter arguing with another nigga about
a bitch you dang'.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know, they ain't part of what this is.

Speaker 10 (31:19):
That said that said, when you said that, I thought
about it's a lot of motherfuckers that.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's what I'm saying. What I'm saying that that she got.
I don't give no ships that she got. What I
got to do with he got, he got? I'm on Twitter.
What you're telling me for you tell the whole world
right now, you be with the whole nother nigga. You
don't even know that nigga is seventh grade?

Speaker 7 (31:40):
Right?

Speaker 6 (31:41):
And what is twitter argument is?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (31:46):
You can start with two motherfuckers, you can really arguing,
but then there's gonna be some niggas under the comments.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
Gonna make it work.

Speaker 10 (31:57):
Said the man, Hey, fit your me and hook that
went on your Facebook and crapt through out there and
put them in the bench.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You can't be with all these.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
Niggas, but they gonna tecknowledge.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
You're gonna your head, put your business there. That's what
you did. You open the door for that.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
But I'm saying, if you're supposed to be superstreet Man
and you know them, be the same niggas somebody I don't,
you know, don't do the internet beefing. And then nigga
got ninety six posts, but you on internet beef you know, podcast,
that kind of ship, all that kind of shit. Even
though it's small ship. That ship showed me where you're
really staying with it.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
Sometimes I think just for safety rappers gotta throw some
extravagant ship in there.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
You see how they've been I't be tripping about this.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Look just for safety, right. You see how they've been
using all the lyrics against rappers.

Speaker 10 (32:47):
I think just to throw that ship out, you gotta
start throwing like three four balls or just make extravagant
ass ship be Like, you.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Can't use this because in the next line, I said
I bought the dinerspa.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Come on, that's just kind of like throw them off all.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
The same nigga that said I had more rights than.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
You can't use that.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Come on, man saying ship, get you out and get in.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I trippering on that.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
I'm talking about this ship you're talking about that supposed
to be real, that's supposed to you know, it's supposed
to be.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Getting everybody all your nigga he was at my house, Like, nigga,
you was there.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
I think goes with you, like he said, well, he
really do listen like R and B and ship only
in his own time, but like the time changing out
agent information and transparency ship, Like, it's very easy to
see if somebody is the real thing, if what you
see is what you give or the opposite. So I'm

(33:59):
probably it's far extremes as Craig as far as like
not inspired by anything, but I'm I guess I'm always
looking for like a brother, fresh air, some some.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Different, and I ain't Yeah, the same, same old bullshit.
I can't get jigger with it.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
I don't want to hear you talk about one. I
ain't a party person, and that'd be the gistion. What
niggas got, you're gonna tell you got how he function
hole and got some money.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
What you doing between that? I don't care about none
of that. It's the other ship that be missing. Where
the real life ship? Right, you're gonna be hearing it.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
Who always been that.

Speaker 8 (34:42):
Type of ARTI though, then you hear the nigga that
kills seven hundred people and that's all he's doing. He
killed him spending and spending rose weed and spend some
mo I don't want to hear that niggas that didn't
what you do all day.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
And then you got the niggas that been married for
the last thirty years and every song he talking out
the holes.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
You got a wife. That's what the nigga missed.

Speaker 15 (35:06):
Freakings and that but you missed so much that you
never mentioned. But even then, I'm like, I look at that.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Like, like, you know, you ain't really stand true to
what you're saying you staying true.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
To because even if that's what you missed, you got
nothing about you nowhere period. No one knows in your
music that you married. Say you married, or say nigga,
you married, and you're fucking miserable.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Just don't fake for me. If you're gonna fake for me,
I'd rather be on TV where I know that this
is fiction.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
Don't give me something that's supposed to be your true
art and it's you know, really somebody else.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
But I do know some people getting only rap about
ship that they made up.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Like I got some dollarhood wrong with that, and.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
That's how some people, you know, that was the introduction
route was, like I said, the top the most recent
artists that that I was like inspired by, moved by
it was probably the Russell And that's like the new
age rap hustling.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
I'm twenty plus years in and watch the ship change
drastically four or five times over the course of my career.
So to see somebody that I probably hadn't heard of
like maybe two years ago, like kind of like killing
it on their own terms and rewriting the rule books,
so to say, like Nigga be and crocs and ship
just walk around smile. It's like, yeah, I mean and

(36:40):
turn that into an endorsement and ship and.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
He threw it.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's all I can appreciate. Who'll be fire with child?
I like seem bad, like I like being and get out.
I love you go hard.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
You know who's been fir with yiad storytelling Five.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
To America's George Loony, America's George.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
America's George.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's a that's a city that George smile city Americans.
George name Loon. I't never heard him. You had confused, man,
I thought, I just I'm like, I was like George
Americas nowadays, George, it's a city Americans.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
To Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I had looked at up Looney.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Yeah, but drummer boy, Okay, drummer produced one on the.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Drum did that's my guy?

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah? He popped up over here.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
It was so often, but I think it was it
was easy to be inspired before we was doing this too,
because like something to something inspired, like something you know.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
Before we was.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
I know, for myself, I wanted like a rapper was
like one of the coolest things to be on time,
Like like growing up, coming to age, when you're in it,
your you know, your perspective is different, Like you said,
you're looking like, man, these niggas lame hell versus you know,
coming up like damn, I want, I want some money,
I want I want the girls, I want to whatever.

(38:14):
You know what I'm saying, whatever you're in it FORO.
And also that was like on some same thing, like
we wanted to be regarded as dope. You know, at
a point it used to rap used to be like
a skill. Shit actually had to be you had to
be talking about something. It's changed and now it's like
niggas just gotta believe you'll go kill twenty people. You

(38:34):
just you know what I'm saying, street cred or whatever
your look or whatever kind of cum before the music
all the rap.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
So it's it is.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
That's why I said, I'm inspired by like people I
see like changing the game as far as how to
hustle the ship but show it's more bread than any
than it ever was. But the means to it get
a little tricky because you've got to just figure it out.

Speaker 16 (38:57):
It's overstaturated too.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
When you get you're good but music you got to
keep eating them though. Yeah, you just got to keep
giving them something. Drop wait and drop they wait for ship. Wait.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
By the older artists, older than us, they can stay relevant,
like kind of like NAS put out a bunch of
albums in theast few years and it's it's current, like
trying to repackage nineteen nineties Nas.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
You know, you got hit Boy and like itself, you know,
current on even squad Face and juven with the tiny
desk just reminded like.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
This, what the fuck we do? Like it's still better
than all this ship.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
Listening to Crazy that's like it's you know, because we're
closer to what We're closer than them than we are
like the newer White.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
And what we do is more like what they do.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
But I think, I think even when y'all remind us
of stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Ship, like, oh, hey, artists, the.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
One that's coming up that's gonna have to be sounded
like something. Make sure you sound like something because you
want to.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Be this age instead of able to pop out show
y'all nigga, like let me show you what you really
because ain't nobody want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Ship when you fort it? Nigga, No, that's what you
made that team.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
I want to hear that.

Speaker 10 (40:17):
Keep motherfuckers who ford it we I'm requesting some forty
en up rap.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
What you saying, you know what I'm saying, like when
you for it, I'm not going to hear the ship
that we wanted to hear when you were six teams
ship played out.

Speaker 10 (40:31):
Yeah, but I've been telling all the rappers who come
on here, man, forty old niggas, we need some ship too.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
We might have for the old niggas we got, we
need a whole y'all are talking about.

Speaker 10 (40:43):
Relate to the only niggas who forty gonna be able
to relate for them. Don't make nothing for them. Young
niggas the same.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
We need this ship about a eight b pm too much.
Just clean up to I'm gonna wash the car, but
gonna what they gonna say the kids like that for
your damn kids school, because me and your mama and the.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Time to me and your mama, and he wants I agree,
he wants to agree. They're going we want, we want
gonna they took the kids school, kids school. You know

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they ain't coming home three o'clock.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Your mama, you got four.

Speaker 16 (41:40):
Be Hey, we ain't gonna clean up. We're gonna make
no clean up, clean up stuff up that the kids
don't ten. He ain't cleaning.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
But don't touch it, not with your head.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Take with the death.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
Won't got none of that kind of busy.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, that's a little different. Get crazy here. Who is
making that type of music? Though? It's the people out
there making it, especially like on Spotify. I think that's
the greatest thing about it being.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
It's enough space for everybody to beat themselves, even although
it's not what happens in most cases, but it's enough
of it for people to like what they for you
to receive what you like. So you know, even with that,
I think, you know it's pros and cons. It's over saturated,
so it's harder to find.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
I think people lost the concept of you can like
more than one thing. Remember back in the.

Speaker 10 (42:41):
Day when we used to watch videos, They'll play motherfucking
ice Cube America's most wanting and then rested development.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Qut. I think we losing our genres. Man, everything don't
have to be I.

Speaker 8 (42:59):
Think what that Two people lost the concept that it's
okay to like something that you like. You don't gotta,
you know, have to be the most popular thing. You
don't got to be what he liked. I don't gotta
not like it because he don't like it, and vice versa.
I don't gotta like it because he like it. I
think that's part of it too, Like you know, people,
people kind of get you to tangle in public perception

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when you.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Say it's the ego and now it's the time where
you can just freely be a nigga.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I listen to.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Regae music sometimes I don't want to listen.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Yeah, I don't want everybody had a shit gig already today.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Like today, I'm gonna ask for nothing. You need already
know what you want to do.

Speaker 10 (43:43):
I got a whole bunch of different playlists. I got
one playlist ain't nothing but puts the ass R and
B on that. That's the name of the playlist. Puts
the ass, R and B. What they saying, Man, I
got a whole playlist and ship make you feel like
we just broke up.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
I'm talking about this called tell Summer Wrong. The sad

(44:18):
songs you can think of Cross Your Man.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
All that Ship is on the Whole the Women that's
on my playlist.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
I got all that ship.

Speaker 10 (44:30):
Then I got a white people song playlist where I
have just made a hit list of all my favorite
white people song.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I can't say that I do.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
I got you. I don't know, man, what's some of
the white people's songs on? Man? I got the Doobie
Brothers on there.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
I don't know none of them. I got what's what's
the song?

Speaker 10 (44:49):
Casey and the Stunts Most Whole another Casey and the
Sunshine Man. Because sometimes when I be rying by myself,
sometimes I just want to.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
Hear that white boy play that funky music. Because when
you listen to the song, it's like the white boy
figured out that he.

Speaker 10 (45:06):
Knew how to play funky ship, like he's seeing other
white people trying, but then he snuck on badself and
then like practicing like you hear this ship, and they
had to be around some niggas. That's what the whole
song is really about. It's about like how he didn't
know that he could play that funky music. And the
crazy part is the niggas behind him like plays the music.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
They called him white. Yeah, that had been around he
white ones. He didn't even that's what they're saying. It
sounds like black man, tell you book and play that
funky music to you.

Speaker 17 (45:45):
That's the whole white man advice.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I ain't known man oh man.

Speaker 10 (45:54):
Yeah, Steve Miller band on Abra Cadabra, I don't know him.
He's the joker and the smoker in the Midnight Tooker
Hotel California, Bro the Eagles in the Red Hot Chili Pepper's.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Version, I want, I want to Eagles console.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Come on man, no no, no, no mean concert in
my life.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
Come on, man, the pink, the wall, come on, man,
you hit my six. I got George Michael, the careless
whisper on now, George Michael.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
That's when the cocaine was pure. Because that do you
listen to what he's saying. You can tell the cocaine
hitting him tonight.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
The music Steve.

Speaker 18 (46:45):
So loud, it's the same boy, so loud, the same
Come on man.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I wish that we could have.

Speaker 10 (47:04):
Used this frowning and told the nigga phone man play.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
The next version solo. Yeah, I ain't thinking about that,
you got.

Speaker 10 (47:25):
I used to stay out of white people's business, but
I had to put plain white teas.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
Hey there Delilah on that ship. Yeah, they was really
going through it, bro, what they have? What is that?

Speaker 10 (47:37):
For some reason, the Lilah just up and moved to
New York City, no explanation or nothing.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
This nigga still fuck with her. He been calling the phone,
writing the little letters and ship.

Speaker 10 (47:48):
He just had to funk around to write a phone.
That was it that nigga was just wondering, Hey there, DELIGHTA,
what it like in New York City?

Speaker 6 (47:59):
Do you know what he is for? Wherever he is?
That ships a thousand miles away.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Left me stupid A damn.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
It's like in California. Yeah, that's a lot of this ship,
which which Jon.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'm like, it's good that I can't let you get do.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
I'm like, this ship tell maybe what you care? You
never work.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Bad way, Damn, boy's good.

Speaker 10 (48:44):
If you ever worked in hotjail, you know, a whole
bunch of white people selling that gym' supposed to know
you love what the bug good here?

Speaker 6 (48:51):
But that personally white people. That's for white people. Somebody
black roote that song that's something to do with the Backstreet,
and it was.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Like, Wow, I was like, wow, man, why music be
too good? Oh man, boy, good man.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
You gotta have multiple playlists, man, I.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Get out white pop, whites out white pop.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
You like pop?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I like the pop, the pop com because I was
like a jacket aroostore. I guess anybody that was in
the pop I know about some pop?

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Why I know all the words?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Why do I know all the words?

Speaker 6 (49:36):
Good Man?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Real good? Wow Man? I don't know, man, White people
music might not be as extensive as yours.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Your ship. I'm a Mississippi.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
I heard a lot of white people. Yeah, everywhere we
went we heard from white people. See yeah, yeah. And
the part is man's it's some old racist motherfuckers that
got some dope ass music too.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
But it's still fucking right with the music.

Speaker 10 (50:12):
A lot of like the early rock ship that was
just like a lot of songs that they just took
from black people and made them in the rock songs anyway,
it was exist.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
What about the kids niggas' I'm crazy, motherfucker.

Speaker 10 (50:25):
They they had the whole doing shoes, So you don't
know kids who kids had the hole? They probably the
motherfuckers who invented having the holes.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Not these niggas. It was just like them. That's how
they got them chopping in the same.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
Section the hole. You know, they getting the hose with
full makeup on.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Niggas doing it now.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Pray didn't even take the makeup off for the whole
towards I guess right towards what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (51:13):
While they was active on the road getting the whole,
they stayed in because the hose don't need to know
my real face, because the whole see me out with
my family.

Speaker 16 (51:24):
Right right?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Is this guy you don't need to know, don't know
who you want to just set me on the drum.
He had the most man, he had the most whole.

Speaker 10 (51:40):
You don't know how to break down broh. Yeah, it's
the group of structured and everything. Like if you're on
the football team, you're the quarterback. You don't have time
not hop you're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I saw quarterback here, hold one all.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
They don't make stirst quarterback unless you got top not.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You can't be first thing unless you got top. You
th you can throw? Well, how your hold? Get another
bitch and get on the bitch, Get another bit, get

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on the bitch. That's that's a mark.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
You don't see how they treat you all right.

Speaker 10 (52:28):
Man, you can't be all right under saying because I
don't want the back last. But it's the poor relation
to all of this. They gonna think we're just talking
about the holes. But men who watching the show know
exactly what we're talking about, not the hose. It's not
like real prostitutes.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
Women hear us, They think we mean like disposed.

Speaker 10 (52:58):
I have yet to meet those guys who do that
them probably, Yeah, that's in America.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
It's there.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, Well, I'm just letting them noise.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
But there's a lot of people out here in financial relationship.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Women.

Speaker 10 (53:20):
I ain't even say it ain't them because we can
only speak on our tack. You got to address the
men who allowed us.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
And yeah, it's a nigga getting paid to be in
a relationship right now.

Speaker 10 (53:30):
He is paying to keep the relationship going. Other time,
there's a few jigglows out here thriving.

Speaker 19 (53:37):
But I don't know.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
Ordinarily I would be opposed to the nigga having to
pay for it, but I think I think that's a
whole lot better than kidnapping women and you know, going
sery killers, you know, doing.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
All the extra ship.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Rather you're just.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
They don't cant, but that's what I'm saying. Would rather
I'm rather just buying.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Then you know some people are having that.

Speaker 10 (54:05):
I already said it that they should legalize prostitution. At
least medical.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Got to spotify for medicinal use.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
You got some I you profid in in your talking
about going to the.

Speaker 9 (54:28):
Can.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I get some of the in the car, No, in
the car. It comes with the with the ticket, with
the whole sponge, the your eleven.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
I got pussy call. Look just right here, I take
once of the month.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
You gotta have living Nega be the over long as
I suppose home.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Dismissed me.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
Nigga said the candle fit. What's it called.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Gonna?

Speaker 6 (55:14):
I'm pull enough to get my spy at three thirty
a m. In the car with the heat on.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I'm the pre order. Listen, I'm on the Black Friday list.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
I already got my tickets. But fun what you're talking about?
Pre order?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I take zero zero one, I'm first zero zero two.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
What kind of condition you gonna? What? You gotta go
to the doctor this last day you got?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
You got the way, you got.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
The figure out.

Speaker 10 (55:45):
He's gonna come back and tell you. Look, get in there,
start crying if you grab you, go in there and
give you one off.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Telling you homeless, telling you you ain't got no more
to stay, before.

Speaker 10 (55:58):
You start talking, start crying, before you patially working long hours.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Everybody that that crying, you walking into everybody the water
you lit.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Everybody crying right.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
The whole Wait, bro, sow me one nigga that would
have to st up with a ring on acting like
he's crazy my white.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Looking for.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
You know, they said he get thirty five a month,
you're coming back next week?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Would have suit boy, you stupid buss Hell no boy,
that would that will stop a whole lot of ship.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
Though it will be a whole lot less badly, it's.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Gonna stop a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
They got him over there Asian, they got like an alleyway.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
It ain't even alloyy you bron down there. Then, No,
you got niggas that be having a little little middle class.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
The niggas that be tending.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Bro, they don't even use they need to go there.
They be like, let me go, like in Masade places
and they be.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Like hey hey, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
He'd be like, hey, how you doing.

Speaker 20 (57:19):
Look I want a little the sun was like masig
he was like, yes, I want me, I want nick.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
She's like you want to look like yeah, She's like
seventy more dollars.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
They might have been asking.

Speaker 14 (57:44):
The nigga got a hundred videos and the ship bron
you keep doing he said, but he cut it off.

Speaker 13 (57:53):
You want a nigga know, but this nigga tray going
spot Oh man, well she'd be funny in here.

Speaker 10 (57:59):
Bro it do be money because you they bust those
massage parsies like every week, and then you they show
the like when they show the prostitutes that they busted
in your city, it makes you so.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Disappointed in your city. Really, after putting in work right,
then you see what your city is doing. It makes
you want to lose your question who the fuck was bad?

Speaker 6 (58:30):
What was it from them?

Speaker 21 (58:32):
They were running up to? Whoever those guys are. Let
us know when y'all catch them. Them niggas need to
be outcare they usuld at least post their pictures so wishes.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
Don't tell me this the prostitute this.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Wait to work to your hands creak.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
All right?

Speaker 7 (59:07):
So us as a rap group, they inspiration. I was
thinking about it, like we had the ugk Our cast. Hey,
by J G et cetera. So probably nineteen fifteen, like
two man groups. They kind of, I guess somewhere paved
the way, gave us some some example to work from

(59:29):
y'all as a collective. Who was y'all inspired by as
far as like a group, because I ain't seen no ship.
It was like, I mean, you had the kings of comedy,
like toured together with y'all actually like you know, performed together.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
I think our chemistry came from wild'n out like he
built from wild'n out. Because we realized, and I don't
don't get me wrong, everybody and why not is a family.
But it's just like certain ones you click on certain
distr ship like I may click others on some other ship.
I may click with them on some other ship, but
I end up clicking with him on some comedy ship.

(01:00:05):
You see what I'm saying. And then it was more
so like my first go round, first night flying, I'm
flying with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
This nigga to go the wild or not we get stuck.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
This was stepped our relationship because it's like, all right,
we're in a blizzard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
We by ourselves, nigga.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
We really it's me and you. I know you.

Speaker 14 (01:00:24):
You don't know me, but we f find out. Nigga,
I can't leave you. You can't leave me, Nigga, like
nigga fuck that niggas Nigga. We probably the only two niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
In the airport.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
So we we figured out who we was then and
when we went to wild was like, I could fuck
with Lahama. And then he saw an interview with me
saying that how I fought with him as an og comedian.
He was just already like, oh no, I gotta fuck
with him because he finished step into a lane and
he gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Need a little guidance, you dig know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
So when we built that chemistry, when we built that chemistry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
From wilding out, we was already tight.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
When he asked me to do this, I was just
trusting him as a friend and trusting him with his
with his vision. We really still don't have nothing that
we go from with like who we look at to
do this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Because it's still fun to us, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
It was just an energy of chemistry knowing that like,
all right, we comedians over here, this job, how could
we make this shit fun to us?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
And we got a space to just be like, remember all.

Speaker 20 (01:01:28):
The ship they said we couldn't do it all that, Yeah,
they do this ship right here.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
You feel what I'm saying, So that's crazy. That's that's
similar to like y'all was asking how it happened. Origin wise,
it was other rappers around. Like I said, it was
literally a rapper that that brought us together, and it
was on some business ship. But it was even the
first studio session, it was other rappers that he came
to my spot, other rappers that came there that day,
And he tell the story better than me with I

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lined him up with one of my people that spent
some money with him.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
They also spent some money with the other rabbit though, And.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
But what he took from it was, you know what
I'm saying, He had a different appreciation for even just
a gesture. But on the other side of it, it
was like, like I said, I had been in it
a little bit longer. He was at a he was
at a turning point, and I felt like he had
more like greater potential than I signed it like nineteen,
I didn't know if the fuck was what was going on.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
I was just happy to be signing with.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
Cash money universal more time it was some dream come
true type shit. But now I'm five six years later,
like I see the game, the business for what it is,
and like, even though I didn't know him like that,
I wanted to see him do more with it than
I was able to do or and that was like
that was one part of it, and like you said,

(01:02:47):
it just kind of setting a rapture to the side
to to just level with somebody like I fuck with bro,
you know what I'm saying. I fuck with how he
moved hisself. He like came in like, man, down, I
ain't been wearing Dury. I ain't gonna start wearing Dury now,
Like just small ship like that. I'm like, damn, you
know who he is kind of thing. So it made
it easier for me to share what I did have,

(01:03:09):
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't it wasn't resources
as much as like knowledge and way like you said,
it was people telling us don't do the ship that
we was gonna try to do.

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
But for us, it was like we're doing anyway. And
then to be able to look back, like remember when
they didn't want us to do the ship exactly right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And so.

Speaker 10 (01:03:32):
What they're gonna do a lot of ship. What they're
gonna do, trouble, what are they.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
Going to do. It's still gonna be the whole uh
my motivational you want to do that nigga might hit
the cold.

Speaker 13 (01:03:47):
That nigga might hit the cold and be like DN
you can believe it, like what I'm gonna anyways, Like
just but.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Yeah, that's that's dope though, because I ain't feel like
I had.

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
Like a blueprint following no directors. I'm sure y'all had inspiration,
you know, just personally over people.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yeah, comedy comedy wise, but when it come to like
what we're doing, like on the stage, were looking at each.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
Other, you know what inspiration for this?

Speaker 10 (01:04:20):
The blueprint would be that Jamie Fox, the Fox Foxhole,
the Fox whole radio shit used to do on the
exem Joint And then I used to just ride around
like just listening to that ship and the like it
was so ahead of his time. They just comedians having
the Jamie Fox Foxhole where he was just having comedians

(01:04:42):
on just talking ship, just roasting talking ship, just about anything,
and it was just so ahead of his time.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
And I was like.

Speaker 10 (01:04:53):
When they stopped doing that, this was just a little
bit before they actually made the transition to the podcast
and it wasn't no black comedy podcasts nowhere.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
So that's the that's the ship that like as.

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
Far as the media side of it, that's what that's
the inspiration for me because I got to see something
that I thought was ahead of his time and then
to see that it was this is where the genre
is going to the digital side made me like shit,
got to get on because it's like, I know, like
you said, you know a lot of rappers, you know
a lot of rampers, but it ain't everybody you can

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have chemistry with. These are the niggas that I have
organic conversations with. Whether we're performing or not, we still
might end up in front of the hotel talking for
three hours and go catch the flight just because we
talking to kind of ship that we like to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
We talk how we want to talk, and how we talk.
It ain't no cut on it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
Yeah, that's that's a sign because I sat in a
thousand sessions, but you really, you don't just jail with
everybody on rock, with everybody saying like I mean, I'm
come to do the work and do my job.

Speaker 6 (01:06:03):
That's a given.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
But for this project, it was sessions when we probably
got to the studio and chopped it up like this
for hours and kind of man when the studio cut
a beat on kind of but them conversations leads to
the song.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
It's like the the bond kind of set the tone
for for the music itself versus the opposite. Like we
was talking about niggas and groups stand, I don't even
like each other right away from this, I don't like
that mother right.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
Small, Hey get your mane.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
That's right, there's only one in the middle of that's
cool with one cool both of.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Yeah, work one more of them. It was one more
of us. I don't think of the work.

Speaker 10 (01:07:03):
Gotta ask for the fans. Man that y'all had no features?
Who did y'all think it's gonna be the first actual
feature in the step brother series.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
We talked about this the other day. I'm gonna throw
it out there just because I think it'd be cool.
We talked about I think we mentioned about biology. Yeah, hey,
j G would be like, that would make sense, you know, just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
We could make happen.

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
You definitely could. But it has to be another group.
You know what I'm saying, something that can kind of match.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
You know what I ain't saying.

Speaker 10 (01:07:48):
I don't like I said this, be careful what you
say on the magic couch. You say some ship on
the magic couch, the funk around it happened.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
I ain't said, you know, I ain't said amongst us
because I don't believe you can speak things into existence, but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I do believe you can speak either way. I had
reached out.

Speaker 8 (01:08:10):
To Jada Quse people trying to see if it was
possible for us to get a Jada, Jayla and Styles feature.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
You know, we know we made it further along then out.
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (01:08:25):
It would be for the tandem the way, you know,
that's part of where we come from.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
As far as a duo duo, a Jada and Styles share.

Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Versus, I don't know why they don't much share versus,
which it's I can't remember the name of the song,
but it's a song that they actually do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
But most of the time when they going back and forth,
it's Jada and Styles.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
Yeah, we're gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Yeah, they got a ship, a shipload of records.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
Where they know where they go back and forth.

Speaker 22 (01:08:56):
That means, yeah, closest inspiration like stylist on the trade boards, but.

Speaker 11 (01:09:07):
They'll end up catching the verse in the hook that
up making it a song.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
You see what I'm saying, y'all make a story every time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
But see they can do that too. They got a
record called The heightst I want to say it's on
the second maybe their first album, but it's styles and
Jaja and they telling the story of the robbing the bank.
What look you're talking about?

Speaker 8 (01:09:30):
So you know, I think even in that, even in
that field, they could still uh you know, I should
think it will compliment what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Same for balling G And they can hold their own too.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Yeah, true, that for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:09:42):
I think that's the most important part of it. You know,
because if it's gonna be a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Feature, if it's gonna be.

Speaker 8 (01:09:49):
It's gonna be a sweet you know, they almost ain't
worth doing then because you know, you wanted to bring
something that we couldn't provide on our own.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
But I want half faster. I could have half faster myself.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Yeah, I think them two would be the Yeah, he
might not feel as well, but I I like boosting Web.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I've been good.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
I don't know his relationship to that music. I was
speaking for myself.

Speaker 8 (01:10:23):
I'm I'm an avid fan, but you know, I definitely
respect you and appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
I think there's extreme amount of value to what they did.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
Who were boosting web in me.

Speaker 10 (01:10:36):
You know how like in the biblical terms, would like
God just be picking, like you picked apostles from people,
like from just different areas.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
He picked boosting with from like to represent like ghetto history.

Speaker 8 (01:10:53):
Yeah, they too important. Yeah, they definitely. I will definitely
give them that man you know who will go crazy
on on the.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Song with y'all this hold up. I gotta say this
this one.

Speaker 10 (01:11:04):
I knew where it was a problem when that niggas
said the girl be cleaning the cooking and cooking and cleaning.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
Yeah, like this ship. You didn't want the more cooking, clean,
clean cooking.

Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
All that this when I knew he gave him the
people don't when the niggas said the shell gas too high,
then go to circle, carry.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Good, not break.

Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
We needed them affirmations as black people bringing that out
of each other.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
Yep, you know who be found with y'all uh pin
wire though pen wheel.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
We instarted them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in contract. Well, I don't know, I
don't know how their relationship is Jordan Lorton.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
What crazy?

Speaker 8 (01:12:21):
Yeah, definitely, definitely that's one of them groups that you know,
like I said that, that was one of them groups
that inspired.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Us, and which was I think that's another thing that
made it work so well for us.

Speaker 8 (01:12:33):
I don't know how he how he looked at it
prior to us meeting, but I always wanted to be
able to to do to do title records with another person,
and up until then I would have to write the
whole record for.

Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
For that to happen.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
And when we met, you know, it's like I finally
found a person I get, you know, almost like you
know right well vice versa. You know, it was like,
now I don't have to be both or like he
said earlier, you know, I could write this song from
two perspectives, but it would sound so much better if
that other perspective was another person.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
And our case.

Speaker 8 (01:13:10):
You know, when we found that, because I always wanted
to be able to I started rapping with my brother.
At some point my brother stopped, well I won't say stopped.
I think at some point I got more serious about it.
It became something for me and not so much for him,
so he didn't love it. And since he didn't love it,
you know, it didn't it didn't grow or aspire to

(01:13:33):
be more than what he was. So in that, you know,
me really being knee deep in music, I ain't you know,
I lost the counterpart so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
So you know, but wait right, and then you know,
when we linked, it was worlds apart, were years apart,
but when we linked there, you know, it was refreshing.

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
I'm like, damn, you know, I don't and I don't
got to coach from through he got it, so you
why way to meet you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
But right right, you know, and that ship just.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
All the child so you know, I probably always one
of the brothers down the period. Yeah, yeah, rap, it
was like my peers.

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
It was people I had chemistry with working but like
I feel like me and your guy had a serious chemistry,
like collaborate, but we was even more pronounced alo artists,
like with two separate deals.

Speaker 6 (01:14:25):
Yeah, the same umbrothers.

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
So it was like, well, you kind of focused on
your ship and don't focus on mine. They just running
parallel even if we're in the same.

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
Car kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Like it's tons of artists like the same way we
did by songs I got in the studio Gucca mind
did buy six songs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
The first time, the same with Yeah yeah, I think
you did too.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
I mean me and Dog probably did ten records.

Speaker 7 (01:14:50):
It just so it was like perfect timing, I think,
along with the course we was honest, like I said,
we was passing each other and going in a different direction.
Like I said, I'm coming out of being signed, like
fuck this ship, he about to get signed, and so
it's kind of like word, all right, I'm fucking with
what you got going on, but I'm finna just try
some ship, just do whatever, because I've been trying to

(01:15:12):
do it that way and this ship really like for me.
And then you look up and he gets to a
point where like fuck this ship, Like it really like
coming out of that now I'm figuring out the independent
grind that much more so we just like kind of
keep versus you pass somebody on their way down. We
can't the childhood like you know what I'm saying, parallel yeah,
and uh really elevating, you know, bringing each other up.

Speaker 23 (01:15:36):
But but when need y'all notice, like all right, we're
grown now, right, like y'all ain't know each other coming up,
y'all heard of each other, but y'all grown like at
this point, you know, we've been through things. You know,
trust some people is number way, Like you know, you
you don't show no face expresion, so you.

Speaker 11 (01:15:52):
Don't need no don't don't even know if you like
him or not. I don't know, like you hear me
all right, so like when you see.

Speaker 10 (01:16:03):
That's what made me fuck with him though, though my
favorite Doune Trip song is I don't give a fuck
if they don't like me, do.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
You You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:16:11):
That's one of the ones that if they made a
movie about my life, they bitch coming up about thirteen minutes,
about thirteen minutes right in thirteen fourteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
I'm gonna find a reason for that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
But when y'all knew, like like when y'allknew, like okay, yeah,
shout out, shout out.

Speaker 8 (01:16:31):
Real for me, it was the first day we met
because like he was speaking about getting his people to
spend some money with me. I ain't noticed Nigga at all, Like,
you know, we was familiar with each other's music, but
I really came to his spot because the other person
had a you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Know, I don't know how they worked it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:51):
I don't know how it came about, but his people
was buying a vers room somebody I was with, so no,
I'm just a fly on the wall. They upstairs recording.
I'm downstairs chilling, and then you know, somebody can. I
don't even remember who came and got me, but you know,
somebody came and got me. It was like, you know,
uh start wanting to holler as you you know, I

(01:17:13):
come up. He was like, you know this guy want
to get a verse for me and my ship.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
I'm with it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:18):
And even right then I didn't even know do that
never fucking heard of me. I ain't find this out
until you know, dude, we recorded it. They did like
the light mixing. He didn't dipped, and they was having
a conversation. He was like, yeah, I played the song
and so so and so. I told him, you know
it's worth fucking with. I'm like, damn, you know he
owed me that he ain't know me. You know, he

(01:17:39):
the game might have heard some records. Well, we ain't
never met him't owe me no favors, and he deem
in favor and it wasn't even on no you know,
cut me in kind of shit and that that that
did everything because at that moment, I was on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
The road and I was selling dope. So I ain't
had no no I had no I had no traditional job,
ain't got no fucking money, put up no kind of
ship like that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
So I'm on the road.

Speaker 8 (01:18:01):
I can't sell dog on the road. We you know,
I'm on the road with God. I'm on this store bus.
So I ain't really got no bread like that. I got,
you know, enough to maintain, but I can't really do shit.
So when he made that move for me, you know
that ship, it meant everything.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
Because I needed it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:17):
And you know again, at the same time, I got
a child, so you know, I got it everything everything
I could spare. We was getting down to the to
the pennies, and you know, when he looked out for me,
then that meant something to me. So that alone made
me say, I you know, you know it's worth exploring.

(01:18:37):
You know, I got to give him a fresh shake
because he owe that. And if he'll do that for me,
and I'm a complete stranger man, you know, I can
only imagine what you do for the people you care about.
And then you know, from that, I think that's what
opened the door to give it a fresh shake. And
you know, time just prevailed. You know, we've been through shit, shit, you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Know our ups and down. We got of course more
of course, of course more upstand down.

Speaker 8 (01:19:05):
But that's because even when like it, ain't many people
you can disagree with without falling out with.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
We gotta be able to disagree, That's.

Speaker 8 (01:19:14):
What I'm saying, And that was the thing that for me,
that's what what meant the most to me, that we
could disagree with each other. They never get heated, but
we can strongly disagree with each other and it won't
go no further than that disagreement. The disagreement don't turn
into us having a quarrel with each other. I ain't

(01:19:34):
beefing with him now because we ain't agree from it,
I can't really like I should don't get out of hands.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I can't even remember a.

Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
Time we disagree, but whenever it happens, we find a
way to agree to disagree with me in the middle, and.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Sometimes you don't have to do way.

Speaker 8 (01:19:54):
But that's that's that's a very that's a hard thing
to acquire when you're dealing with two people who help
famil well, that too, but we felt, like you said,
that was a point in his life.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
He felt like he got it together for himself and
vice versa. I ain't. I don't think I gotta do
what you say and he don't got to do what
I say. But the fact that when the egos evolved,
think that's what created the space for us to be
able to do that. I ain't look at it like nigga,
who were you? Fuck?

Speaker 8 (01:20:23):
How you you know what makes you think you know
the better way to do it? We sat and you know, again,
we mad in the middle no matter what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
And the fact that we can disagree, I think that
means everything, because that means neither one of us is faking.
And you know, if he can genuinely say nah, I
don't like the idea, I don't like this or that,
and you know, we find a way around or like
you just said, sometimes shit you do with that one
and I'll do this win and it shit work.

Speaker 8 (01:20:49):
But in a lot of cases, you can't really get that.
A lot of the people, you know, we all have
experience it. You know, you got friends and family that
don't fuck with each other, and you're like, damn, why
why you know why you don't fuck with He can't
tell you why we can ask niggas, what do you do?

Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
You don't even remember he even going to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Don't like don't like you like? That ain't a strong
enough game, right that it don't make sense. But that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:21:15):
We never even when we bump heres, well we don't clash.
And that you know that from early on that let
me know that you know, it was a genuine person.
And then like I said, we spent more and more
time to like a real step brother.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, real step We can argue by outside house.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
We're gonna be nigga as. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 8 (01:21:37):
It's you know this ain't that I will proudly inherit
any beef he got it is what beef ain't no good?

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Well no, you know it be on the other end.
You know, they got beef for him and he don't
got beef for them. But you know that's that's just lie.
Success give that to you no matter what you do.

Speaker 8 (01:21:56):
Yeah, and for me, you know, people don't you know
when people say stuff about me. They said in a
comment sation, I don't have real people.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
The seventh graders man, the white seventh graders that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
Now that's what you got in the coming. Yeah, you
gotta throw some d in that. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 8 (01:22:21):
On the chage while you put all the extra ship
in the comments. I just don't go about it in
the amount of they go about it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
I think the confirmation for me with with Craig was
it was on a couple levels.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
One, I don't think they know his name Craig, Craig.

Speaker 19 (01:22:40):
Everybody, Okay, that's okay, Okay, put me on game crag.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I'm good.

Speaker 7 (01:22:49):
So it's him being unapologetic like overall, like the same
way you said, like you really you don't know where
yeh with it. And it's because he's just kind of
really don't give.

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
And like when I was able to see like, oh this.

Speaker 7 (01:23:06):
That's really in general how you feel about everything and
everybody that level. Right, So I was like, I fuck
with that because I always said I can honor respect
somebody that's the same, like even if if I don't
like you, I can accept you being the same amount
of time.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
Changing and uh.

Speaker 7 (01:23:26):
Early on, like I remember him being like misunderstood and uh.
And to me, I was like drawn to it because
I felt like it was the same thing, like I'm
tested gifted since I was a little kid, like I
always you know, I was tall, Like you're the smartest
person in the room, you need to find another room
to get in, because that's that's what comes with it,

(01:23:47):
us people not understanding. Like like I said, I'm hearing
them rapped the first time, I was like, yeah, he
out of here cold. But then it's like people that
was trying to do business with him was kind of
trying to change what he was doing. I'm like, I
don't make no fucking sense. I think it good enough
to fuck with, but then you want to change change it.
And I went through that, so it was kind of
like you don't want to watch somebody make the same

(01:24:08):
mistakes and bump ahead and so regard. But also, like
I said, along the way, I saw that he wasn't
listening to ship, and I was like, you would have
never been happy if you did that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:20):
Well, that's why I couldn't do it, because it wouldn't happen. Man,
it was ship they was asking me to do. I
don't like or any of the like, because I want
to do it. I ain't going to do nothing that
I can proudly stand behind, even if it was a mistake.
If I was walking and I slipped all right and
they got slipped, I ain't see the fucking water.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
I slipped so big. But like it was ship.

Speaker 8 (01:24:43):
They was asking me to do that, just I just
couldn't rock with Like. We went and did a fucking
I did a show in New York. They got me
in the fucking strip club. They trying it wasn't a show.
They tried to turn it into I'm in the strip
club and they playing a letter to my son.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
They like, let's perform. I said, what the listen to
my son? The business naked listen to this ship don't
even make sense. They were like, man, we're gonna get
a DJ that spending one hundred times. I'm like, if
we in the fucking strip, this don't make any I
really didn't want to be there, but I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:25:17):
Like, but that was the idea and what I gathered.
I'm like, man, y'all, y'all take y'all blueprint from something
else that worked. You ain't even realizing that this is
a different thing. After that, they was like, man, you
don't got no stage presence. So they went and hired
Dougie Fresh to teach me how to then that they

(01:25:40):
went high Uggie Fresh to teach me how to subform.
So when they did this, right, I'm in suck. I
had already been doing this ship for too long anyway,
and the nugget.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Press is great.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Before I was just saying Douggie at performing in the
middle of Thest. Memphysico.

Speaker 19 (01:26:02):
So when when they when they hit me with that, Oh,
but it got dagg fosed to do the no I say, hey,
you say, oh hey, Oh, I said, nigga, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Look, I'm like, man, I'm from a different player. You
can't do that, all right. So look, so I'm supposed to.

Speaker 8 (01:26:21):
Sign off on them hiring Dougie Fresh, I wouldn't cooperate. Instead,
I flew all of them to a show in like
Little Rock, I said, because clearly y'all got a misconception.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
We get to Little Rock, I'm performing all the music
that I made before I signed. This is the like
me and ship. You know that shit existed before I
dealt with them. I'm playing this ship, this ship wall
to wall. They are they nervous because you know, this
is a different, different atmosphere.

Speaker 8 (01:26:49):
Everybody it's water wall and this bitch. Nobody got searched
to come in. It's nobody got searched to come in,
this bitch. So if we got a thousand guns, the
crowd got six thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Everybody nervous, and the fucking crowd no ship. Word for word.

Speaker 8 (01:27:03):
I didn't win any crowd of perform and everything. When
whant to show over, You're like, man, that was different.
I said, yeah, now you you see, I do know
what the fun I'm doing. You're supposed to be trying
to meet and compliment you thinkgga, said Douggie Fresh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
All right, Au, trying to make you a perform but
not knowing how you performed.

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
They didn't take the time to see how you performed first.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Right, Then they turned.

Speaker 6 (01:27:26):
Trip, let's do it one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Come on, look support, Look, you gotta perform that ship.

Speaker 8 (01:27:50):
Then they made an the man right they went and
got they did involved.

Speaker 6 (01:27:55):
And I don't even know if you could tell this story, but.

Speaker 8 (01:28:03):
The puffy, he suggested, all everything he was doing was
via email. We can sit and have a conversation and
nothing transpires. As soon as I leave I get to
my hotel, gonna get a fucking email with nineteen people involved,
when only four of us was having a conversation, man
Puffy said, I need to wear the leather vest.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I need to cut a mohawk in my head.

Speaker 15 (01:28:26):
I'm trying to tell you today to secondary.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
While they were suggesting that I do this right, this
is right, one of the niggas got damn.

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
Look. It was right before I did the.

Speaker 8 (01:28:39):
Double A sale cob right, So while they suggested this,
I'm like, man, I'm not rocking with this. Then we
turned around and we end up doing a double A
sales shoot and to a Puffy artist was a part
of Machine Gun Keller and uh Freshman Chale.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I don't know if they ended up wearing it, if
they both ended up wearing on the cover, but both
of them niggas had leather vest with no shirt on
the change. I think Machine Gun Keller had the mohawk.
H Frenchton cut its hair into mohawk, but they had it.
Was like they had gave me the bad boy kit.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
They was like, no, this is what you nigga. You
over here we live in vice in mohawks. Nevianced in maaw,
because what you're doing is cool. Yeah, we gonna step man.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
When they when they suggested that you don't even talk
to him when his family just like that made everything
kind of kind of go sour. And then later on
they wanted.

Speaker 8 (01:29:35):
They wanted me to let stack Quote write for me
for what well, they thought stack Quote was like the
hardest nigga on the planet and I think cold too,
but not to the point where they was like, let
you know, he's gonna teach you how to write songs.
I'm like, no, knock the stack Quote.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
It is what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
But I was like, where the sons he wrote? If
you know, if I'm I'm not doing it right, show
me the right ones that he did. And this ship
never transpired. Then you stop hearing about stack Quote. And
I'm like, okay, so I was just just supposed to
follow that blind man.

Speaker 6 (01:30:09):
You can't keep protecting these people.

Speaker 10 (01:30:11):
You need to say the name of this plays them.

Speaker 6 (01:30:15):
No black people need to be.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Look, if you've been rocking with me, you know that's cool.

Speaker 8 (01:30:26):
And Dre that everybody cool, and Dre couldn't give me
the cool, Like Crig said, they made a lot of suggestions.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I just stand firmly on saying no, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:30:35):
And that that was the one that was the one
that stood out was the step Brothers one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
He told me to do step Brothers't.

Speaker 7 (01:30:44):
We recorded the whole project in three studio sessions, so
it was a short amount of time and the project
was done.

Speaker 6 (01:30:50):
So we're in l A.

Speaker 7 (01:30:51):
I think we did two songs, was out there and
got it mixed and uh yeah, that mohawk wouldn't that
wouldn't have been Man, I wouldn't be.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
Here right now to myself.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
You gotta be yourself, so you know, we gotta tape
it up. But that the thing drink.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
But they would be the sort that gotta be like, hey,
what if I need it?

Speaker 7 (01:31:24):
Like they told him, we got the type done, were
playing it, We're in the studio mixing it. They are
paying no attention to like the entire first project with
they just it was just like an afterthought. It was
like because niggas got agendas, they want you to work
with their people. They want a bigger prophet ship. Really

(01:31:44):
at the end of the day, like what's good naturally
work organic? And they told him, don't do it, you know,
and he said all right, and then we dropped it
the same day. Problem hung up the phone and then
hit upload and yeah, I'm like it was lost, you know,
what I'm saying because even in my situation, like I

(01:32:06):
ain't had a leverage that he did in that time.

Speaker 6 (01:32:08):
I got in them situations and probably.

Speaker 7 (01:32:10):
Like listen for a little bit more because I was,
like I said, I was younger, I was more impressionable,
and I'm looking at and what y'all doing is working
so well that I really.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Just want taking I'm thinking you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
Right, You're not saying they didn't. It just wasn't for me,
you know what I'm saying. I was supposed kept doing
whatever the.

Speaker 8 (01:32:26):
Fuck got me, And that was my problem because initially
I'm sitting I'm thinking, you know, I'm gonna soak it
in y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
You know, y'all got more experience than me.

Speaker 8 (01:32:36):
But at some point I noticed, like you know, y'all
niggas is trying to put me in the cookie color.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
You ain't paying attention to what's going on.

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
Am I.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
You either fuck with me or you don't fuck with me.
And you're trying to just like, look, look you bought.

Speaker 6 (01:32:51):
We don't fuck me. I need it. Get that, damn mother.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
We're trying to see you haven't given.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
Us the yet. Right, come on, man, you play hardball.
It got real wild. Then we put the type out
and it was like, man, it's amazing, just like this niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Changing to him.

Speaker 6 (01:33:18):
I looked at him on okay think at that point.
And he also didn't give a about that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
You showed your card. I see what I see you
what you are?

Speaker 6 (01:33:29):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
And when it was when it when you didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
Know if it was work or not, you ain't believe
in it because it won your idea and your ideas
was all the goof of ship because it worked for
so and so. And then when it did work, you
ain't say, damn, you was right. How you know now
I'm gonna have to lean more into your ideas?

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
No, you said, I knew I believed in it. We
knew this was gonna work.

Speaker 8 (01:33:52):
You do interviews and ship about how well it worked
because y'all knew it was gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
I'm like, damn, like I said earlier, you gotta be
who you said you are. And they ain't standing on it.
It was a lot of weird ship.

Speaker 8 (01:34:02):
And then I started peeping. I called, you know, I
called people brother brother man, and they started saying it.
And I had my brothers with me, so they started
telling us, you know, we're family and all that extra ship.
We never bought into, none of that ship. That's like,
you know, it's like a strange offerings of kids from Canny.
They talked a long time ago, strange with danger. So
you know they're doing all their brothers brother ship and

(01:34:24):
like it was like one day we was just Nigga's
here and then tomorrow now everybody's now, we're brother Now,
y'all adopted our shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Ain't talk like us now. And Pill used to call
them fool and gay, but they I don't think they
ever done nothing that was actually gay. But Pill, just
if I don't like you, he don't like, he don't
care like he don't.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
He understood absolutely nothing about the business. He didn't care
about what was supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I ain't fucking with him, so he Pill would come
We did this ship go bad?

Speaker 6 (01:34:59):
Though?

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
It started going bad immediately because well off the rip,
yeah yeah, Well initially they was just supposed to be
making beachs and I was supposed to reimburse them for
the beach to turn into something that it wasn't. They
wanted to sign with cash money and they don't. They

(01:35:20):
wanted to sign cash Money. They was all the way
up Baby's ass, the way Baby treated them and the
way they held the regard that held them and didn't
match either way.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
They wanted to be cash money. And I'm looking at
it like, all right, from cash money, I.

Speaker 8 (01:35:36):
Gotta compete with Nicki, Minaj, Drake, Wayne and the other
seventeen thousand people that they got. And I'm like, you know,
they already competing with each other themselves. Somebody, No, I
don't think I like that idea. And while they spending
that idea, Jim and Ivean called me personally somebody you know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
A yeah, pretty much, but you know from there, I
sat with Jim Iveen and he was eager to work
it out, no matter how he had to work it out.

Speaker 8 (01:36:07):
And I'm like, no, this is I get to, you know,
at least in some fashion have a say in how
this go. They was already cut in the fold, so
I couldn't do nothing about that. But I sat with Jimmy,
and Jimmy may sure like he was determined to not sign.
He was determined not to sign me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
As just an artist.

Speaker 8 (01:36:27):
But what most people People wouldn't know it because no
album came out, but I was actually in a joint venture.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
It was my label Cool and Dre label in the Scope.

Speaker 8 (01:36:39):
But that only happened because I sat with Jim Iveen
and he understood that, you know, wasn't no way to
really maneuver out of the situation I was in. And
jim was like, all right, you know, I'm gonna put
enough money up they ain't gonna have no choice. What
he taught me, I didn't notice until he told me.
But in the Scope and cash money are both under Universal,
and Universal got a no com peak.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Clause with they with their subsidiaries.

Speaker 8 (01:37:03):
So when Jimmy put a number up, he knew that
cash money wouldn't match. So since they wouldn't match cooland
Dre had to you know, they had to go with
what makes sense monetarily.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
But even then.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
That was the beginning of me playing my own, uh
my own ball. Then I knew none of this was
in their favor because everything before that was was in
their favor and wasn't in mine. So to try to
make shit work, they went and got they was doing
a lot of dumb ship that I don't know what
they thought was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Then that first thing that offered me was.

Speaker 8 (01:37:39):
A Lamborghini and a necklace. And I'm sitting in the
truck just like that. Yeah, in the truck, I'm like, trip.

Speaker 6 (01:37:47):
Look at what we got.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
The pick picked the Lamborghini you want?

Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
I don't know why I think like I think, But
I was staying with my mama in East Memphis and
my mama got a she gotta like. Her driveway was
a sepish.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
I can't.

Speaker 8 (01:38:03):
I can't drive so ibody. I can't park it in
the driveway. We don't got no garage. I parked a
bitch on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Y'all can have me dead in the week, somebody, Okay,
I said, I can't park no lamborghinning East Memphis. I'm
thinking they're gonna get more realistic. They said, well where
you want?

Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Mention in la or Miami. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:38:24):
When they hit me with you, I said, you do know, dude,
what got me here was a letter to my son.
I told you I can't see my son. Do you
really think moving me to l A or Miami is
gonna help me see my son?

Speaker 6 (01:38:40):
But you get over there for when she finally just
let you see them, you'll be able to get there.

Speaker 17 (01:38:49):
Fast, this necklace, You're getting your family back, so whatever
until she ceased this, So what do you.

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
Think turn turn it around once? When all that ship
went went? So what do you think turned it around
for you?

Speaker 7 (01:39:12):
Like career wise or you know what I'm saying, to
get out of that space until.

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
Like you know, more prosperous.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Two things.

Speaker 8 (01:39:20):
While I was in the middle of it, but you
knew more of my disgrunt on this than most people did.
But while I was in the middle of it, I
had went to a while I was I was, I
was involved. They had me on a panel, like a
hip hop panel on one of BT college tour things.
On the panel they had, uh, what is it, DJ,

(01:39:46):
what College Park is something? It was she was thin
it was smirk when smirking. Well, College Park was on
the panel and Rocco was on the panel.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:39:57):
They had asked College Paul something about something about Soldier
Boy and how he managed to, you know, really go
in and make his own terms. College probably was like
he had the leverage see the person that they wanted him,
so he in real you know, in real time, he
get to make the rules because it's you just trying
to court meet but so when he sat down, like, damn,

(01:40:20):
that's really how you gotta floy it because I'm the
commodity that's not them. And then they asked Rocco a question,
to ask Rocco, how do we make how do we
maintain relevance even though he not a mainstream artist, And
Rocco said the way he maneuver.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
You know, in the music business, when you meet the artist,
you don't meet the artists. You meet his management. The
management is who chop it up with you.

Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
The artists stay off in the background, and whenever that
term is over with you got a relationship with that manager,
you don't even remember the fucking artist. Rocco was like,
you know, for me, I don't let my manager play
that role.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
I do that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
I meet the people myself. So when he said that,
that stuff with me. So after that fucking seminar or
whatever that was called, I.

Speaker 8 (01:41:11):
Went back to LA and I purposefuly met every person
in the end the school building, and I started growing relationships.
I grew relationship with a guy named both of them
passed a guy named Mail Carter who also worked with
a guid in them later on, and a guy named
mar Brown, and both of them hit me to a

(01:41:32):
lot of shit that was, you know, a lot of
shit I needed to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Mail is how I found out about the Douget Fresh shit.
I went folds to note but used to run with
Wou Tang, and he was like, he understand where they're
coming from.

Speaker 8 (01:41:47):
It's just premature. He was like, you know, they not
looking at the package. They think they know what's going
to work, and they ain't. You know, they ain't sat
down with it. And I could respect that because he
ran with Wou Tang and what I'm expect expecting him
to do was be pro fucking Dougie Fresher, be pro
the whole New York idea, and he was against it

(01:42:09):
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
And then my relationship with Mar later they had uh.
Later they did, uh, you know the drop list. The
drop list.

Speaker 8 (01:42:19):
I don't know what it is now, but it used
to be every September in December. So Mar hit me
to the drop list. He said that they was discussing
it in September and my name came up and he
made sure I wasn't on the list. So when he
said that, I'm like them, Okay, I appreciate it. It's
a guy from inniscope. I don't know where he at now.
We share a birthday, so we stay in touch, but

(01:42:40):
I don't know where you're working. His name Don Clemens.
This nigga used to work like what's the home of
name in basketball? Used to wear the suits Craig something
he passed used to be like a.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Pretty That's how Don Clemens is this niggas was This
nigga was dressed up on a regular fucking day doing a.

Speaker 6 (01:42:59):
Nine of five.

Speaker 8 (01:43:00):
He was fucking like he just left out of uh
what dapper dam like he left every fucking day either way.
I'm sitting with him and he was like he was
over everything that involved money being spent on me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
I'm sitting with him and he was like, no, being
dropped ain't the worst thing in the world. I'm like, fuck,
you called me in here to tell me that. He
was like, you know, it's ways to maneuver around that,
he said. You know, I've watched you built the relationships,
you use those resources that you created.

Speaker 8 (01:43:28):
You don't need to be tied in to do that.
It's gonna be tougher, he said, but look how you
got here. So from that, I left that meeting and
I called you know. I called Marl later on. I
told him we listen next drop list, make sham own it.
He was confused, like, I don't know why the fuck
you want that now? Explain to him like Don Clements

(01:43:50):
explaining to me. I was like, I'm with it. I
might not agree, but I got you. He said, next
drip list is and decn I didn't know it was
decemb I ain't know it was that fucking soon, like
it's in December.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Mark did whatever he had to do.

Speaker 8 (01:44:04):
Mark called me to congratulations you dropped, So all right,
what's the next steps? He was like, you know, they
can get whatever together. He's gonna let me know after that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
I owe so much fucking money the in the scroll.
I owed like a million some dollars of in the score.

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
So when you get dropped, you they senior receipt.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta. You know, you gotta recoup it.

Speaker 8 (01:44:25):
Anyway, I ain't put no album out, so there was
I know there was no product to recoup it, so
I got to recoup it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
I just so happened.

Speaker 8 (01:44:33):
I had peeped all of the place, cooland Dre was
on them. Niggas was charging me to be at the studio.
They flocked me in and I'm waiting for my room
and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Somebody supposed to be taking care of it. So you know,
I got to come to the studio first, which was weird.

Speaker 8 (01:44:49):
I all right, whatever I'm chilling, were waiting and one day,
like one of the tricks they was doing, they wouldn't
hire people, they would only hire interns. Then when that
intern turn them out high new interns. This particular intern
don't know that you ain't supposed to bring the invoice
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Every other artist, you know, they bring the invoice. Pat
Joe sign, bust around sign. He ain't know he brought
it to me to sign. I'm like, what the fuck
is this? I read they had tried me like three
grand for being in the studio. I'm not in the
control room. I'm in't liking the fucking liby. I've been
sitting here. He let me. I was waiting on a
hotel key, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:45:26):
So when I peeped that that say I ain't recording
with y'all no more, you know, I called on to it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:32):
So what I did I went back home.

Speaker 8 (01:45:34):
I continued recording in my own studio. But I had learned,
you know this shit is itemized. I said, all right, perfect,
I got some Valiance cameras this shit, so it was perfect.
I'm always in the studio because now I said, you
can chob.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Me for just for being there.

Speaker 8 (01:45:46):
Right, all right, Well, I don't know her last night,
but the account finishchol name was Sarah or something.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
She called me told me how oh X amount of dollars.
I'm like, all right, well I got to send right.
I did that next, But I told I got to
send Miami wards. Because you know, I've been recording and
everything I've done, I paid for myself. Every video you
saw from me came from me.

Speaker 8 (01:46:12):
So when I did that, they basically was like, well,
well then the audist came shortly after that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
When we got the audit, they you know, they said
they seen everything we spent money on.

Speaker 8 (01:46:25):
And my studio surveillance footage is what helped my case
because you know, I was flying private, I was flying
first class. I was going from LA to Miami and
back to Miami. I mean back to LA from Miami.
I was staying in condos and shit. But while I
was doing all of that, I was really sitting in
my studio all none of your dates match up because

(01:46:46):
all of the dates you're saying I was flying and
doing all this shit. Here's footage I'm in my studio
with my little brother recorded me. I can't be in
two places at once.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
So they looked at it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:57):
They like, well, you know, fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Wasn't really they ain't making enough money from me for
it the matter, So.

Speaker 6 (01:47:04):
Like, all right, what fuck it?

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
We just frona call it even.

Speaker 8 (01:47:06):
She told me, you know, I counseled what they owe
me for studio time, and they don't counsel with all
of them. So when I got out of it, I
was free and clear. I told them send me termination paperwork.
They sent it to me, cooling Draydon though I had it.
So them niggas told me that since they got dropped
from inn the Scope, that now I'm a epidemic artist.

(01:47:30):
I'm they artist now back to the right, That's what
they said. I'm like, you know, I ain't the smartest
nigg in the world, but you know I can read
paper that saint whatever agreements we signed prior to this
is void. So I got the lawyers in it. Once
they got everything signed and sealed, I'm like, man, you
know I'm good I'm gonna do this shit on my own,
and then any mist of all that's happening. I'm watching

(01:47:53):
Craig with the Trash Bad Game, and I think, yeah,
the Trash Bad Gang and grind hard merch like he
was doing ship that I hadn't thought of.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
I ain't know that was even part of this yet.
So I'm watching that.

Speaker 8 (01:48:06):
Then I'm watching how he was maneuvering and doing it independently.
So from that, I'm like, Okay, I kind of got
the blueprints sitting in front of me. I don't really
got to start from scratch trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Again. I didn't just say, hey, crazy, when you put
your little tape out where you how you do that?
How do you get that ship on Apple and all?

Speaker 6 (01:48:26):
That ship?

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
He broke it down.

Speaker 6 (01:48:28):
He told man, I don't charge niggas three in the studio.
That's not I did that.

Speaker 8 (01:48:37):
Whatever world was saying from that, there was no I
gathered the tools I needed to be able to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
To move out towards, you know, from like I said,
from the relationships.

Speaker 8 (01:48:48):
So our relationship was one I had going into that situation,
and then you know the Marrow, the mail uh and
Don Clemens and ship in Soura because Sala was just
fed up like this, I'm not I'm not going through this.

Speaker 6 (01:49:02):
Ship nigga named Don and dressed like Craig. I gave
you the gun.

Speaker 8 (01:49:07):
Yeah, and we share a birthday, so you know, we
reach out every every August twenty and tell each other
every birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
He wanted people he got like super inspiring ship to
say so he'd be like, you know, uh, the sun
is shining on you, king, and be prosperous. You know, hey,
I appreciate it because you know, like I said, so,
they were.

Speaker 10 (01:49:30):
Doing a lot of cooland Dre was doing a lot
of low damn ship charity for the studio and all this.

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
Oh man, I got a long Listen. Man, that's just
a lot of likely did it to them?

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Listen that I learned a lot of tricky ship from
cooland Drake, and instead of going and doing it again,
I just learned how to look for it. Letter to
my son.

Speaker 8 (01:49:54):
Although I'm grateful for see Lo being on it, see
low end up on it because I believe it in
your ninety front even though we ain't rocking the building.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Ain't supposed to know that. So you go in the
building pushing for something.

Speaker 8 (01:50:06):
I ain't gonna go in there push for the same
thing or go against me, because it ain't a need
for that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Will your ninety front. We're supposed to look like we're
on the same team.

Speaker 8 (01:50:15):
I didn't know that Jim Niggas was going in there
playing the other artists music and shit when they were
supposed to be presenting my ship to interscope, Don Clemens
and Marl Brown. It's me having relationships, is how I
found these things out. There was another guy named Garnett.
He was over everything that go to radio. I went
one day and garn It's like, bro, when are we
going to hear some music?

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
The nigga got seventy songs The fuck you cooland Dress
said they just came up here.

Speaker 8 (01:50:39):
Said yeah, but they keep ain't gonna put up. I
ain't gonna throw under the bus.

Speaker 6 (01:50:42):
They're like, yeah, well you came out here playing so
and some shit.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
We ain't saying, huh, I don't want to hear that
somebody huh. He's like, you know, Jimmy filed up. He's
thinking this shit every time they come. They ain't presenting
him with what he invested in. They trying to get
more money for something else.

Speaker 8 (01:50:57):
So I find this out, okay, they say, in order
for us to get let it to my son added
to radio, Jimmy Ivean requested or insists that it has
a hook on it. That's the only way he's gonna
push your radio now again. See you well, I'm you know,
I'm I believe in your ninety front. So I ain't

(01:51:17):
talk to Jimmy about this.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
And it ain't about you know. This is when I
could still call him. Shortly after I couldn't call he
had changed his number faster than the bitch. But anyway,
when they tell me this, somebody don't I'm trying to
cooperate round.

Speaker 8 (01:51:29):
I don't know this game I'm learning. So they say that,
they're like, you know, we gotta get a hook. Long
story short.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
We landed on sea load doing the hook.

Speaker 8 (01:51:36):
Sea Looa shocked me, A hunted to do the hook,
A hundred to do the video and one of another
hundred to ever perform it. And I ain't you know,
I don't know Sea Loa, So I ain't feel no
way like he ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
Like Craig said, bro, I'm for the text you it's
a complete fucking stranger and he's a legend.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
So you know, I will jessicate you have a copy
and say hey, nigga, I need you to bar.

Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
The way.

Speaker 8 (01:52:00):
But so so with that, I found out later Jimmy
never said that that was their way of taking ownership
of the record. They also went in start they could
claim publishing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
They put a sound. They know, they put a sound
in the song that no one can identify.

Speaker 8 (01:52:17):
The only way you hear this sound is if you
break the stands down, mute everything, then you hear this
one sound they added.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
They added it through the whole beat, and now they
get it for a portion of the publishing because they
co produced it.

Speaker 8 (01:52:30):
If you know one nigga you can call that's going
to tell you everything about cooling Dre. I found this
out after we had to clear everything for Les.

Speaker 6 (01:52:41):
Yeah, I'm sure everybody was with the Runners.

Speaker 8 (01:52:45):
The tag that was on all that all that ship
that was coming out of Miami right then Street Runner
made that originally made that beat. They had already fucked
him over for the beat prior. It is crazy, it
was fact Joe Beat I didn't know this. So in
order for in the sculpture own letter to my son,
they got to buy the beat, except I don't own

(01:53:06):
in fact Joe and whoever owned it, turns out Street
Runner made it. And even when he got it to fact,
Joe cool and drained him. This when where shit fucked
him over on it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:17):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
So Street Runner snapping on me on the phone and
he was like, man, fuck with them niggas. Yeah, yeah,
y'all have them niggas. They just say that, and I'm like,
I just called trying to clear the beat. I don't
even know what the fuck you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:53:29):
I had experienced all the shit like yet, so this
is airly he was telling me, I don't trust the niggas,
all right, So we figure out a way to get
Street Running paid.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
I signed out to get them paid. Them niggas went
and added a sound and cut his check again.

Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
Man, I said, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
I said, Man, y'all niggas must got some real beef.

Speaker 6 (01:53:47):
Them niggas went out their way to make sure you
didn't get all the money. Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
But like I said, it was a lot of shit
the niggas did. That taught me a lot of shit
about the music and the shit that's crazy. One of
the main expenses and this is why I could be
free and clear.

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
They spent my recording budget on Game album. Well they
did it had us both.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
In the same studio. I'm in C and Game is
in A.

Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
I ain't even in B.

Speaker 8 (01:54:15):
I'm in C and Game is in A. Game is recording?
Is that I don't know nothing about none of this.
I ain't noticed until I got to the audit and
I'm reading the audit and I'm reading it and I'm
being charged for being in the studio twice at one time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
I'm like, how how was I in CNA. I'm like,
what the fuck?

Speaker 8 (01:54:34):
So when we started backtracking, I'm all right, you know,
you look at the dates and that's when I flew
out of LA. But I was in c I know,
dang Game was in I remember this because when I
got there they wanted me to meet him.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
And when it ate the me Games, I'm like, right,
I was in the event.

Speaker 9 (01:54:52):
I was.

Speaker 7 (01:54:56):
I mean, you know, mano, this is the closest get therapy,
like they gotta just let a rock but no. But
also it'sy tell you know how cut throat like the
music industry or just hot stakes period. We're talking millions
of dollars, you know what I'm saying, like, without an

(01:55:17):
album dropping, you got a million plus tab.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Ain't even seen half the paper so beautifully independently.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
I think that's why we made it.

Speaker 7 (01:55:28):
That's like, that's the backstory, that's the ordins of it, because,
like I said, even up to that point, I ain't
see that, but I've seen some cold ship myself.

Speaker 6 (01:55:38):
You know what I'm saying, the kind of have me like, man,
I'm cool, Like I'm gonna take the long way to
get there.

Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
Because also by that time, I've seen so many people
fall off that I thought was like own superstars And
I'm like, damn you you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:55:53):
When it when it's.

Speaker 7 (01:55:55):
Like so, I'm like now like so for me, it
was like, let me figure out how to have some
staying power. How can I you know, sustain like a
shelf life with this ship. And it was also like
this ship, I'm gonna just go for what I know.
I'm gonna try some I'm gonna try some new ship.
And uh so, like I said that the overlap because

(01:56:16):
when he came out of that, like he said, now
I'm trialing arrow my way up to really hustling and ship.
Had we started in eleven. By thirteen when we got
ready to do stuff, brother.

Speaker 6 (01:56:26):
Too, he was out of deal.

Speaker 7 (01:56:28):
I charged on Billboard three times like myself not a
not a soul, and like nobody couldn't tell me about
how to do it, win and do it, and it
ain't had to make sense in them. Like I'm sitting
in means with them like it and they scratching their
head like so, who's doing this? Like you said Rocker
and me I called him or you know, I went

(01:56:49):
after I paid, like damn, it's all you. And it's
also like they scratching our ship birth. Yeah, we can't
you know what I'm saying, We can't bound bulls of
this nigga. It's like so when he came around to
doing that, and it's like figuring out, man, it's more
ways to go about it, because like I overachieved for
myself by that time, just on some like fuck it,

(01:57:10):
I'm just going away and uh from there. That's why
I was trying to pivot and get to like what
was the next step for how to even even during
that time, we still ran into ship. You know what
I'm saying, fuck ship and business ship to get tricky.
But it's like what you're gonna learn from you know
what you're gonna take with it to do it better

(01:57:31):
and do it bigger than next go. You know what
I'm saying, And it's it's even and now like I
feel like every time like I'm super excited about this
new project because I still feel like we're going up,
going up.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
What they what they.

Speaker 13 (01:57:48):
Drop the cars next and matter dropping the cars.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
Makes make nice shay my birthday?

Speaker 15 (01:57:58):
Okaydropping in the purpose season he turned then.

Speaker 10 (01:58:03):
Drop the social media, let him know where they can
keep up and find you and follow you get the
two dates.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
You know, man, mister done trip on all that ship
and if it's not, it's not, it's just not that.

Speaker 7 (01:58:17):
Start lead on ground Hard on Instagram, leado six one
five on x groundheart dot com. You can get to
everything else YouTube, Groundheard TV and uh, we're gonna be
together at the time.

Speaker 6 (01:58:35):
Get.

Speaker 10 (01:58:36):
I gotta remind y'all DC want direct one of them
something and produce.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
I'm gonna put I'm gonna put it together produced.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Listen, you ain't got worried about is always pull on
on the git with no.

Speaker 10 (01:58:48):
Cap man, y'all know exactly where we're at. We can't
let y'all leave, because we brought y'all, got some ship
for y'all, got.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Some said about that.

Speaker 6 (01:59:02):
They don't know where we're at.

Speaker 10 (01:59:03):
Man, don't let this be the last time you stuck
through the eighty five South Show A slut lido done trip.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
We off this bird h

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