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May 2, 2025 • 91 mins

British sensation ESTELLE sits down with Karlous, Clayton and DC in the trap for another classic conversation on the latest episode of the 85 SOUTH SHOW!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You u from the island.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Your people yep, off well off Trinidad. Okay, that's man
in London and here I am.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, that's what's up. That's what's up.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
How long you been over here?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
This would be the seventeenth years?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Oh you.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Like they ain't been over here.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Now you're good, you're back here. It's like you from
count the Road. He didn't look like.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
South Side, won't you Chicago?

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Chicago?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
You had him always fucked up.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
What is the first thing you fell in love with
when you got here?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh that's tough.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
Because I watched those videos, but it like, uh, British
people trap pc ast for the first time.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
My goodness, that's it is so funny, hilarious.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's funny to me, my little susn't. I'll tell you,
I'll tell you stuff. Feel like my cousin went to
chick fil A when he came here and then did
a whole like girlst chick fil A, Like you've had
chick fil A anyhow? Let me think I went to
New York. Okay, you know they had it's.

Speaker 7 (01:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, still Vis and all that type place.
Yeah yeah, I about to say so you see the
comparison like I.

Speaker 8 (01:35):
Mean it's when we travel we type in so it'll
just be like, yeah, we've.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Been to Nando's, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:41):
Yeah, yeah, we know.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I ain't been no like I've been no.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
And they got.

Speaker 7 (01:51):
It's like an African style, uh South African green chicken,
and then they got all these little sauce that's hot.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Really ship it. But yeah, but it still gives it
to all.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Type of it's getting done both.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
That's crazy.

Speaker 8 (02:07):
It's feels like everybody loves spicy food.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
You don't like it.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I knew when you get old, you got refluent, I
got I got time.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
This is me up like this and.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Like nothing like that way up you.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Got about your spend it.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Nigga God.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Rolling down.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
But there's always a lot of back and forth.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
But with the Americans in the in the Black Bridge
now a lot of discourse.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
We love, we rock with y'all.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
We want y'all to know that sometimes you know, motherfuckers
might just say something out of pocket ship.

Speaker 8 (03:06):
But yeah, it's the stigma of Americans like we.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Don't want to know.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Oh we don't know.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
You see what I'm saying, Like anybody that's African that
stays in another country and stags anywhere else. That's just
like you're from London, like, so you you dealing with
a whole nother systematic whatever old president is going on
in London that we don't even know that.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
And that's the part I would say to people like, look,
you can find a point of reference. It's the same ship,
different currency rights that same ship, different currency deal with
it too. But people come here and say wow ship.
People go there and say wow ship.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, it's just.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
No see this the land of the freedom.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You can say wow.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
If we say all type of wild ship just head
you know what they flow up?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You want everything?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
What's the meaning? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Over here, oh man.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
We just be doing ship.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
But I think we cordially like gravitating and finding our
way back, you know what I'm saying, because it's I
think that the internet has helped us.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
And it's a lot of.

Speaker 8 (04:28):
Even y'all coming over here like enlightened us and putting
us up on gas.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Whatever, just about like tell us some ship we need
to know, right, we might be overlooking.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
My things always travel Like look, I came here when
I was twenty seven, and I've traveled literally traveled the world,
partly because of music. But also I'm in quizzing to
move around when I'm around, but the more I travel,
the more I'm just like everything is literally the fucking
say you go to Korea and find fried chicken just
like here it's back in London, just made like how

(05:00):
we make it if Mamma makes it, Like how much
that's not domin you make it.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
It's just that that is part of the world you resigned,
spices you had that bought you for others.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Yeah, that ship was good everywhere right, like this ship
was good. Way it came from so good that motherfucker
was like, hey man, we.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Do that me really.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oil? Are you wanting to meet.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
Put the oil in the podcast with the indie?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
We need buy that too. That's where it came from.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh yeah yeah yeah real for real?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
This like so so you said I just heard you
said you got him.

Speaker 8 (05:40):
Twenty six, Like, first of all, there was a life
you was already living when you're stepped into America, when
you saw.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
The lights and saw everything.

Speaker 9 (05:50):
Moving, like what was your first week likeright.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I was staying with I remember I told you
all the specifics, but stay with my friends at her
friend's house and I stayed at the top of like
stayed with my homegirls friend's house at the top of
her place. And a while lady she lived in Chelsea.
It was me black and.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Okay, we New York, Chelsea Market.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Down the street from Chelsea Market. I don't have a
frame of reference of what's where. I know I'm in Manhattan.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Came into the Rice backroom, but.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I know that in the New York I was like
New York, you.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Know, it's part of the charm of New York. I'll
stayed there for a while, and then I moved to
Wall Street. I didn't know where I was again, but
just knew it was quiet and dark. And I moved
to Brooklyn and I stayed pretty much for the entire
time I was in New York. I was out on
the road and I'll be back.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
Mm hmm, okay, right, okay, So once you doing music
at that time, so.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
We ain't going on musically when you came, so you asked.

Speaker 11 (07:31):
Them, so then okay, okay, yeah, okay, oh.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Yeah, they were trying to they were trying to call
your blood. Yeah, I mean, come out here, you want
a ship.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
But it makes sense. I had my day in London
and then she reached the end of that rope and
they were trying to do anything so so much your
legend and he was like, which line you here?

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I took like three years to get that done. It
was a lot. I was recording myself, I was flying
back and forth. I had my house, a lot going on.
So by the time I signed my deal, I realized
I had to kind of be in front of their faces.
Wanted to make things move, because I mean, if I'm
the home and I'm I'm sorry story, everybody.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Get that money.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Okay, just the Boteah, well you're good.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Everybody my keys.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Oh oh, the whole mic, he said, the whole thing. Okay,
oh okay.

Speaker 12 (08:50):
Come.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
See that ship is so fresh right there.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Man, okay, okay, we really do here.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Okay, right, are you good? Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
So really be some ship.

Speaker 8 (09:12):
She leaving now, she leaving out, So we're gonna we're
gonna running back when you got here, She's like, yeah,
I stayed.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
On top of the White Lady, and uh, let's how
you he over there?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Like, man, she ain't even tell him to spit out.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It was nothing.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Tell him about the quarry, got.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yeah, sold, everything moved to America.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
He met a man on my face.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Talking about sucking asshole. Thank you. I'm thinking you came
I'm the asshole.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
She was all there, okay, oh.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
We got my bother podcast. Oh y'all craziness for.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Hell no, leave it. We need the ambiance.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
O y'all last, Oh, oh y'all lad.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Stop alright, DC must have gave you these little thing
ass pants. DC gave you these wrong me.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I'm been throwing all my pants like that away in
the mirror.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
If you do that, I don't.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Give me.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
You know what you boy that didn't you know me?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Boy my life because I was trying. I don't know
what I was getting twenty eight. I'm like, why why
was I getting waist.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Twenty I'm thirty one for really twenty eight?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm talking. I'm trying not well.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Belt.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, I want to brace man. Yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
Y'all ain't table we did at you said this is
my swag.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't know, No, I ain't know they was gonna.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Be there tight back a little none of them.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I had a legging bro.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Hey, we're gonna make the clip go viral with DC
with legging making a series.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
Joe was like what the And I was in Unkland too,
they even they ain't even say nothing.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Stretch fans with the angles out he.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Cut oh, cut up, I would sell give me a
town check.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I went just doing, said why y'all selling me?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Let me hear you get it?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
One, two, three, four, five, twelve and.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Twelve and two and a hundred debated.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Pounds. You know when you started doing I need I need,
I need a beat machine. You need want I need
a beat machine? Jenny Ky like what jail.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yaio?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Then walking back to eighty five, self shut.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Whush, don't go wait to guests come in the house
with us today. This long restinated here makes a beautiful music.
Come on, man, she is a cultural icon. Look and
she from across that water, across that.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Across the pond with us today, isn't it who? We have?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
None other.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
American?

Speaker 13 (13:25):
Yeah, that's all we That song made us all you
shout out us? We didn't get shouted out.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, that's all tell you.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
It made me feel like we was in a long
distance relationship. Didn't nobody wanted to buy the ticket first?

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Wow, bro, I started a little lady with an accident.
I was yelling for anything.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Look, she's going to come over here. Christis yeah, what
is that?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Then?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Everyone stop? It's terrible, terrible, this is wildly this is terrible. Bloody.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, I don't say bloody.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We say bloody, say bloody, say bloody.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
What do you want to be like?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Bloody?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Listen, Bro, that's that's right. Listen, it's bro. So there
you go, you ah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
That was.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
This goes off the rails.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
This is another This is a little part of London.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The same bloody all right. So I was saying it
like this. New Orleans has an accent. Of course, Georgia
has an accent. Depending on what part of Georgia you
come from, the accent gets more severe or it gets less, right,
So that's exactly what it's like. I'm from West London.
I don't North London is speak different to South London.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Area.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
There, Yeah, little things from.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
The west, from the west, from the west side.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
It's the.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
West side of the u K.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Is the west side of the West side.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Of London, the u K. That's I feel, that's everything.
That's everything. Okay, be closer to the island whales in
the UK in the.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
UK now because confusing because London is England everybody so
being you're thinking, this is your own country.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
So London the city inside of England, the country house
in the UK, the whole maybe the continent.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So it was in Scotland island, Paris is in.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Paris is not Paris is in front others. That's as
the fund, don't.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You know talking about right for much it just all
ran together. Yeah, Europe, y'all.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
Europe that like y'all have a lot of countries close together.
You see where we got to go to another just
in the country.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Well to be to be fair though, like look, it's
all it's all just like masses of life.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Like, so which one of the biggest.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Probably Asia, like that's the biggest continent.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm talking over there with jib oh London. London represents London.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
Okay, like Cali like Calia is like to the outside world,
they don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
California like six things. Yeah, well i was six different
cities in the state of California. I'm gonna fight, you
know what.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I'm saying, Like how big is I won't to know
how big?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's big? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's big. London is
the city inside of England, the country which is quite big,
just al must at the bottom off to the right
is if I'm getting right, is to the left is Whales,
and it gets to the top is Scotland. And in
the middle is like northern England. Poland's in the whole.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Other city that's about Northwey.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, that's the whole other country.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Also mid You ain't gonna stay so.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Do we get that?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Can you draft Sweden from from right there?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Probably? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Why ain't nobody said about Denmarket?

Speaker 4 (17:42):
How do we get there?

Speaker 6 (17:43):
We're gonna discuss the whole nova scoti alright, nothing, all right, no, no,
So nobody want to bring up Belarus?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Geography?

Speaker 8 (17:56):
What about amstand damn with smoke weed?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Pounds on pounds?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
How did we get here? That's how do we get here?

Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's a geography?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Les really was I really? I want you to know
that I knew it was a rap?

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Did I tell you?

Speaker 6 (18:13):
And yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
We do?

Speaker 12 (18:13):
Got we're supposed to be talking about she was a
rapper and sold everything and all that.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's what was That's what got left out.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah it wasn't. You didn't say I did. Why do
you know? Is he I did?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Do?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
That I'm trying to playing me like coming out.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
All.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
The only thing I did that was a lot was
I did like a posture feed between the S and
the L like it's because trying to be a small rapper.
And then everyone just kept confusing. Now I was just like,
it's thet's just.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Gonna well, you don't she was a dope.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I felt like I was good. Yeah, records top twenty.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Top, so you don't round the ne dyin.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Top now. I had reconsized with awards on my very
first album, The eighteenth Day, and it's a song called
ninety eight. I can never tell people I'm not my
age because I have a whole record called ninety eight
year that maybe and yes it did his see this
is why it's kind of why I'm here, like you know,
like it's one of the ones like that joining them

(19:42):
heard and loved when I met them and they were like,
you know, she's she's really doing it, taking off or
crazy going for a while seventeen years in the US,
I'm doing this since it came.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
So was it a feeling of I think you kind
of said, I just want to make sure. Was it
a feeling of I did all I could do here.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah it worked.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I didn't. I didn't hit the charts. I did like
this my ceiling, let me go ahead.

Speaker 8 (20:12):
So it really was speaking on it, like what is
the ceiling in London looked like? When you're saying all right,
I got to go to another country to succeed more.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
All right.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
So the short version of the long version of my
story is I started as or River, worked in a
record shop, did every single thing you could possibly think
of to like know how to be an independent artist
right wing, worked in a video company that had to
make music videos, worked in a record store, learn about
virayl on, how to sell your vinyl and what. So

(20:41):
I my own label put out all my mixtapes, sold
five thousand myself and a month back to when I
went to labels first and said hey, I'm an artist.
I got easternmos. They were like, uh, that's cute, and
I was like cool. So when I sold it, did
my thing came back with some numbers and they were like, well,
tell me more. Right, caught the eye of another A

(21:03):
and R who was like, I'm doing a deal. When
you signed it was my first artist went back to
the same label. I was like and they ended up
signing me, so my own label, by this label, let's
do the deal. Did the deal before I went. And
I don't know if this is a story that people
might know. Before I went and signed, I was recording

(21:23):
all the time. I would just put out my own money,
go get my things done. I went to America a
few times. I came to LA a few times and
I would recorded like corrupt and a bunch of like
oh geez, James the barge and things like that, go back.
I was getting it done. The second or third time
I came back out to record, I bumped into Kanye
and John. It's maybe like two thousand and two, and

(21:48):
Kanye and told him I want to meet John because
I heard John on the music on his mixtapes. So John,
I ended up going to the studio they signed me.
It was a lot of prayer in that entire period,
from writing a talk about it and I'm sure sure right,
I met John ask him to be on a record
that I had written called Hey Girl. It was my

(22:08):
first album. I took back and this label wanted to
sign right. They were like, after this record comes out.
My first two singles three in ninety eight, way above
what they thought it was going to do, I say
to them, So John's like, I'll work with you on
the next album. I stay cool, take it to the label,
like John's going to welcome me. At this point, Johnny
is like Grammy Award winning get lifted. He's taking me

(22:31):
on the road with then they know, just as a
team like legend. So but he's he's working, but he's
really co signing everything as far as the UK and
taking me on the road. And no American artists or

(22:53):
big artists has done that for an artist that was
still building. So I take the take the music here.
Then I'm I'm like, I started this new album, John,
that just don't help me? Does that produce it? And
I says to me who And I said.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Let me go?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
And that's in London.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
This is London. I still let me go. Let me
go please.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I got to go.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Stop everything pretty much. I got Union Jack right.

Speaker 14 (23:24):
I'm like, John Leon is gonna help her? She said too, Lennon,
bro John D thinks doesn't know.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
She doesn't know here, so this is working with John.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Lennon's crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
That Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I was like, you guys don't get it.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I have to go.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
So they didn't have a problem, then you go. They did.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
They took three years to figure that deal out there
they did. When we decided, when was like pretty much
don't let her go. It really was. It took a
bunch of prayers and a good lawyer, me sitting on
his like on his phone every day like what do

(24:19):
we hear back, you know, and continuing to record, and
then like one night came and like yeah, come into
her and signed the deal. I was like okay, and
pretty much maybe like six months or four months after that,
I moved. I sold all my bits at the house,
sold on my shoes, on my thing, because I feel
like this, if you can get it one time, you

(24:40):
can get it again. So I needed money. It was
it was I was really working off my own steam
making sure that I could record and keep it going.
And it took three years. So in between my the
last major hit maybe two thousand and four in the
UK two thousand and six seven was when I moved,
and it was just like there was not another check coming.
Then it was me doing shows, trying to and it

(25:03):
was wild time. So sold on my ship, left, came
over here and started again, went crazy and worked my
awes yeah, yeah, working ever since.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Beautiful that's beautiful. Yeah you came in with the with
the Kanye coach home and.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, but they seen me working.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
You know you're from so you knew you was you
was like, I know I can pop because I popped
right from And that's a big thing. I think in
anything making it, you got to make it wherever you're
from all at least be able to rock this before
you go trying to take something else.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
So confidence, how was that connected? Like even though you
popping in the UK, how was you able to come.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
On here and make those connections with Kanye and well,
I say signed me. Well again, I know them from
I was over there, so we were friends and we
were cool and I understood John And when I was
in London was coming over there touring all the time,
John tanking the road with.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Him because they need artists from the country.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, so it's a work ethic thing. I think. You know,
I wasn't going to just hang out with was like,
I was like, come on with me, I love.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
You.

Speaker 8 (26:26):
Knowing there with the with the mindset of saying like
I'm popping here and I know you need is going roll,
but not knowing I ain't gonna make.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
That connection when I go to no, we're all fans
of music. To you go, I look at it like that.
I'm a big fan of music. If you're doing great
music and the things sounds good, I want to be involved,
you know, especially if you want me to be involved,
I'm gonna be involved. And there was like a kinship.
There was like a thing. He would be like, how
do you get these melodies? And I'd be like, but
you say the word so well. So we would studying
each other and I think that was like a great

(26:56):
musical thing at the time.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
So you said you start that rapping, though, when did
you like kind of transition to singing or did you
always throw the melodies in the music.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I sang all the time half my first album, Miss
Singing and Rapping the first song people heard from me.
And I think how it became known on the scene
out there was from rapping because it was easy to
do open mic rapping than do open mic singing. Good
every thing right, Yeah, everyone was like, oh gosh, she's
really I was like, yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
So when when did you feel like you were gaining
some momentum in America? Because that's what you know like think,
you come from another country and you go somewhere and
it's already a tough crowd, and now when did you
start to feel like, Okay, now it's working out, Like
I'm getting somewhere.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
With this and this is going to sound crazy. It
wasn't with American Boy, right, It wasn't. It was with
thank You.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
It was with thank You.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
When I would go out, I went out on the
road to promote thank You, and I would do all
of the different spaces and all the different venues and
all the venues I missed the first go round and
they would be singing album cuts but me, and then
they would be into thank You so hard. I was like,
I'm so sorry you guys like to shrek it up.
I understand why you like it, but like, I'm so
sorry you're coming through the art because I was going

(28:15):
through it too. It's like, but that was when I
felt like, oh no, no, people fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
You go and do it. Help them get through it though.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
Sometimes you're giving off game or they was like I
wouldn't never looked at it like that.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Thank You.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Your music helped me.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
It was a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It was a lot of that that happened so and
then people like yesterday, was it two or three days ago?
We was at the Apollo and this lady came up
to me and she was like yes, like he got
me through and I was like, which one. So she
looked like she was from the West Indies, so I'm
thinking she's gonna say come over, and she was like
conqueror and she almost stood there and cried at me,

(28:52):
and I was like, please don't crab, please don't, please
don't on my face. My face is being ready to
go on stage. I understand that she really stood there
and was like thank you. She had a whole moment
like those moments let me know, Yeah, you're doing the
right thing.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Come over hard though too. Yeah, that's when it was,
and that's when I felt like it was going crazy
with the reggae on the island. Melodies and beats was
going crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
At that time. Your ship just came in like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I like to take it back, like what what made
you want to pick up a mic? Like what made
you want to tap into that? Because some people who
just you got people to do. You got some people
who've been on a baby.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I mean first time I remember singing, I was
maybe seven. Second time I remember singing, I was maybe twelve.
I say that two different ways. So the first time
I remember singing, sitting at church, I was seven. I
was scared out with that's holding the tone right. Second
time they asked me to sing my little brother and compete.

(30:00):
You know, he was trying to sing and I was
singing it with him, and they were like this is
really you know, they clapping shit, and I was like
it wasn't terrible. I could do this. As I got older,
it became a thing of now, this makes me feel
joy inside, Like I could go sit in a room
for hours and dissect every harmony and look at them
like Carlos flowing around the room and you know that

(30:20):
kind of thing, and I don't care, don't talk to me.
I'm ready off there, like do do do do do
do do? Like my family's like which she's upstairs, and
I would be in my joy bag for like a
week doing that ship you know, after school, jolt to
see whatever who was popping at the time, fully focused

(30:42):
and I was like, this is this is what I'm
gonna do. This is I think I'm gonna do this
and then throwing it further back remember being three and
watching Bob Marley on TV my parents and he was
performing Zimbabwe at the Rainbow Yeah, and so old DVD
or thing you I watched, but that performance he was

(31:05):
like he was in the spirit, right, he was like no,
he was like he was he had on his he
had we had a green jeans show on he had, yeah,
and he was like he was singing Zimbabwe ice clothed
wild And I remember being three thinking that's it, and

(31:26):
I feel like that was the beginning to start for me.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
What was the what was your house like?

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Because you know, everybody got up on Saturday mornings and
was cleaning up, So what was the you grew up on?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
We did that. We had Mary, of course, we had
n some One. We had every lovers, Dennis Brown, Freddie McGregor,
all of that, right, you had freaking Stevie and Luci
Van Dress and all of that. And then because we
were young kids in London and we want to hear
pop music, yeas dran Juran, it's it's you know, of

(32:00):
them mixed up in it too. That was Meiling, Kim Obscure,
Aies groups and then the Pope, so we had it
all mixed up. But My parents were like, you're gonna
know music. You're gonna know soul music, and you're gonna
know African music, and you're gonna know reggae, and that's
all that's what you do. So that's what sounds like.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's how you build a range man, That's how you
build a.

Speaker 11 (32:24):
Real artist, because it's like you don't pull You're pull
them from everything you've ever listened to, the shows.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know what I'm saying, What did you guys?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
What did you listen to early?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
What did you love him.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Back?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's all right? What happened?

Speaker 7 (32:46):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Changed, and you like insane.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Medi in the house, bro, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (32:59):
And it went from tr little booty smoking Northful you know,
then it goes to the basis like that.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
But my start offs pop off.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
I think Michael Jackson was like our biggest star.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
So it was like, you're gonna listen to anything music,
at least start with him.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Listen. Michael was a stafpour in our family.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, you weren't getting away from.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He's around the world. That's what say this more stuff
that's similar my.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
Household, Michael Jackson, Haylen Wet watch everything.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
On Sunday.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
You don't hear no rep nowhere, like on all the
stations they just played like gospel they got and the
like to the Blue they started playing the blues. So
but like that, it wasn't you know like as we're
growing up and we're getting outside more and more and more,
it just became.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Like even it's just something that we did too. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
You just played the call him the oldest, Just play
the oldest Sunday. You know my parents, but you know
we were just like we don't from in Mississippi is
North Mississippi, right, So the Old head Station come in
crystal clear coming in. I'm talking about like you get
no standing.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's like it's a CD.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
It might cut in and out, but the Old Head
Station coming so quick, come on man, and we uh
where I grew up, right outside of Memphis. So we
had Isaac Hayes on Sunday, Isaac Bubbaly hay. He was
like it's hay I butter Soul Sundays and he was
just played none but like school nomb but the old schools.

Speaker 11 (34:34):
Bro because I know when I used to wrap my hunty,
you know, we all had liked one three one on that.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
But when I get in my hunt cut, I would say,
my new more music than anybody, like out of my
mama and my daddy could My mama didn't kill just keep.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
It on, want to stark. She didn't want to catch.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Because you've never heard before, and that was moving out
the wait for Jesus man what.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
But when I get called with my Auntie, she put
it on one on four point one, that's the old
school shape.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
That's when I started hearing all the brother loandro, who
that is that woman'll be playing into her car?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm like, aunt like, who is it?

Speaker 8 (35:31):
So I wasn't the interne when we didn't have accents
like that, so it was like I would have to
pick back.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Up on him. When I hear it again, I was
like whatever party was listening to.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
We went through a whole here where like my parents
what super gospel?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I went to church and my mom and that throughout
my mom throughout her.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I just to this day she threw the.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
She thought it was because it was secular my feelings
geese and it was this about of too, like I
still dream about that because I wanted it when I
grew up anyhow, and she they got rid of all
the specular music in the house and so it was gospel.
Going to my auntie's house, she would play Luca Stevie

(36:15):
Alley's on them.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
I don't know it.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
What was her thing? Like her guy, she loved that.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It was crazy.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
But see when you was thinking about it though, like
growing up, like when we were kids, kids like the
ages generation early nineties, like black people used to take
pride in their music collection.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
But you used to have to have a music collection
to have one right who you were. And then the
other day, the other thing I noticed is I listened
to what my parents was listening to now, like the ship.
I'd be like, I don't want this ship now. I'm like, man,
put that ship on that night, man, God damn, put
on that side.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Shut the up.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
They were playing boys, and I said, I want to
cook the radio off.

Speaker 11 (36:57):
But as the nineties, baby, I always took Friday when
I saw somebody who had like a music collection on
c book and I'm like, but.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
You got the experience all things like yeah, all the
song like you know songs.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Why can't get this ship in my household?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:15):
You wouldn't even real rewinding and.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
You better get the single.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You want to hear that again?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
You got the album? Yeah, but the.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
Album you ain't gonna do all that. Goddamn fan the
grooves scratch ship up. You were kind of skipped. But
a CD like that Road the whole way?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Who was the lot of pusson? You think that I
had like a full out CD that you could be
like beginning getting at the end.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I can't even think recent, Like everything in my mind
is further.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, I think I think Urban Legend was CD cd C.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
That's so fast. Oh see they got them first DMX
hell is High. I let that bitch ride start to
finish Juvenile four.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Hundred degrees four hundred, four hundred at aliens.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, that ride on you.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, I will play speaking Box and let the lot lo.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Let both timeth.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I thought, why through that?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
They're always trying to break flat people.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
They killing mic last album, the one that won out
of the gramms. That's not what? What's that big Creek?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
I can listen to some big Christ Okay, that's true, Chain,
that's true.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
One the sigh string calling Future No Dope on Sunday,
String Caller No dope on sun whim sending in front
of stunt no cap that when you know, I started
almost stop selling because you know what.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
But the nigga rabbit ain't got morals, man, man, you.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Know who.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Get a gap?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Rock was hard?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
That street call of Future he ain't got to touch
t I first.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
He had what's the best mode mixed tape? The Future joining.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Ain't got yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
That one everything, you know, even though the album where
they said he was going pinistry, Yeah come back he said, man,
let me let me here.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
It's crazy how we developed your musical taste though, because
my dad was a big fan ghetto boys, and you know,
he would have all these rap albums that were like
that he really loved.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Like would you say, like this is my question, I
getting to like American?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I know, I know that's a question even South that
would you say you were more East Coast fans with
West Coast East Coast shelf?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I can't say't say that we liked at all. It
was about fifty to fifty. We liked it all.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
We always kept our music separate, like like when somebody
from the South, it was pretty much like they automatic,
But then it's like, we had certain elements that we
liked from West Coast music, like like even though it
was like a lot of who you Like lyricism and

(40:43):
the word playing of the East Coast they were more
focused on actually like who could say the most ship.
But like the West Coast, the flow was way different.
It was like they weren't trying to over compensate with it.
They would like, let that dope ass be play or
do a cool ass flip on an old school classic
and just keep it real light. But on the East

(41:04):
Coast they gone, they're trying to wrap detail for me.
The East Coast just wrapped from Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
East Coast.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
For me, both though we rocked with who Rocked with Us?
And that was the South.

Speaker 7 (41:20):
So like the East Coast, we liked them until they
started showing this thing. They was the first because they
would come down here and start shopping on us, shipping
on us on the radio.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Like we love Who Tang?

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Who Tang had a woo wear store here in Atlanta,
Like I beg my mama to take me to that
bitch that she was full of weed smoke, she still
let me get the stir See.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
That's the biggest difference the West Coast never shipped on
the South. Yeah, yeah, and and we rocked.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
With Everybody's one of the first East Coast artists that
was on a lot of down south here you come
down definite wall like everybody from Project Pat to Look
John to motherfucking I.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Can say that.

Speaker 7 (42:03):
I can say that for Nor, I can say that
for Cam and them. Yeah, I say that for Wu
Tang and the No Nas. Yeah, like yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Way more love than it was hate that they were
trying to like make it feel like right.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
And Ray Kawan too of course. But see that's what
but West two shows, I mean Tupac ship like, he
was real dynamic, but he could give you both like
one your love don't sound nothing like to live and
die in that like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
But I think a lot of that ship like it.
It made us ship like ship like like.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
Oh, she can't listen to them because they damn now
on the same ship went on because we really weren't hit,
you know what I'm saying, because we weren't playing their music,
like even like like.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
I said, my household, I didn't even know about that.
She doesn't want side of the World until I went on.

Speaker 8 (42:58):
Somebody House and somebody playing this you nobody, and I'm
like i gotta write their name.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Down and go back home.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Like it was.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Rather you needed a buffer in between them, bro, you need.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I didn't started this and everybody, but since.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
We on the conversation music, you don't work with a
lot of legends, facts like who are some of your
favorites to work.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
With or who is the one who had you kind
of like believe we're in this month.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
It threw me completely because I remember a sob when
I came here. I was like, I'm gonna live my
life in between the student your sessions. I would be
outside of the clubs two stepping on tables. I had
to give up vodka because it was like not did
too much, no more.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Went crazy wild, had a very fun time. It was.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
From ninety nine, the old five Pete.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
It was a beautiful time and I remember like having
a good time. A bunch of Gucci made records in
a row, and then I did a record with Jerry
Wonder Fat them sounds to put it down. I literally
had moved to the West Coast at this point, like
doing a whole other thing, doing cartoon voices and whatnot,
and Jerry hearsed me like, yes, Gucci may wants a

(44:45):
record that we did finally free.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Hmm what me?

Speaker 8 (44:52):
May you know?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Because it was like I met like it was all flashbacks.
So like I said, dancing on tables and all the
different clubs going to on the road, and that was
a joint that was all like crew, like Lemonade, Freaky Girl,
you know, all of them in that era. That was
our ship. I'll turn up like let's go me and
my homegirls and my assistance and whatnot, and so then
I want to record with him.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
It was just like this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Oh my god, he knows that's the fun time. Yeah,
that was one. I mean that's one. But look, I've
done so many racers with so many people, and I've
got things that are coming out with people who growing up,
I wouldn't even think that they need my name, and

(45:43):
I met some of them because of my radio show.
But it's just like I look at it all like mine,
it's a blessing. I get to do this for a living.
I get to do this and wake up in the
morning and be like I sang a song and they
understand all the ten thousand hours playing and they Yeah,

(46:03):
but the hours of no sleep, you know them, days
of like I got to start my favorite shoes.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
What's your what's your creative process?

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Do you just get inspired and do it on the spot,
or you got a certain routine that you'd like to
go through now?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
And I say this now because the last thing I
lost the records I recorded, which is my album coming.
I did that in the Pandemic, the Panini, whatever you
want to call it. And it was a four hour process.
I would pray, I'll go what he wants me to say,
and then I get out the way. I just let
it come out, I don't judge it, and leave it
with the producer and leave. And it was four hours

(46:42):
because if I did it, if I did anything more
than four, I started thinking it, start trying to move
the words around, and don't that makes sense that melody
feels too? Did that before? Uh uh uh? And I
just get in the way of it, you know. So
my process now was like pray, go in there, freedom,
singing to my phone, the melody down, and then coloring
the lights right and the words and the melody. So

(47:05):
I'm singing the melody. I look at it like I'm
drawing this and then the words just going here and
that's it. Knock it out, lead the studio.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Let me check with your Is that true? Because you said.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
You and what.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
How did I get that?

Speaker 4 (47:30):
You ain't gonna even mention the lemonade. You know you
need lemonade to make the damn song?

Speaker 8 (47:34):
Now you you you are all around all the stuff, jealous,
Now we need you.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Think that you would get into the cartoon space.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I answer that I prayed about that and I want
to do Yeah I did. It was really like a
I think after a certain period of like being outside
in the world, people like you have a voiceover voice too,
like you should do that. I was like, I want
to voiceover gigs. I want to and it was like
I want to voice over you. They got closed and
I was like, no, I want to do a car too,

(48:05):
because I want my nieces and nephews to hear my voice.
But my sisters were pregnant time, and I was like,
they're not coming here, they're not moving to the York,
but I want them to hear my voice over there
and I want them to know at least that's Auntie.
Like I have a big family, five girls, three boys,
it's nine of us toll and I meant that. I
was like, no, I just want them to be able
to hear my voice. I want an international. I got

(48:26):
very clear about the prayer Butt and after pasturing the
shit out my team, I was like, they were like, what,
this cartoon came in a lot of money. I was like,
what's it about? What it's a cartoon net or like
your the character is cool gardener and she's she's like
a big sister. I was like, I can relate. I'm
the biggest, I'm the oldest, oldest girl. And so they

(48:49):
read it to me and I was like, this is good,
this is easy. We weren't privy to any of the
story arcs. I didn't know any of it. I was
just like, I like purple, it's gardening, it it's my
best my bust stone and the Capricorn, and this is great.
Let's go. And the more I kept doing it, I
just felt like this is this is the biggest honor
of my life. This is amazing, Like thank you God.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
And then.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
The character well, she she well Rebecca Sugar. Again. Their
their partnership, the team, and they created this whole character,
they said based off of a song that I had
called Freak a video. So I did a song called Freak.
I can be a Freak every Day. It came out

(49:32):
in the American Boy.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
But You're freak, So I'm just talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I had this song that was more about just like
feeling yourself and being you like cartoons. Oh God, I

(50:09):
was like, oh, yes, was the video. I drepped it up.
I literally drepped it and I literally was like, oh,
she the character should look like this, And I take
the picture and I do a zoom with the director
like I want to look like this in the video
and they should be. And I was telling them what
it should feel like, and we did the video. The
videos did it sting. Anyhow, she's a fan of it,

(50:33):
and she liked it because it feels like it's like
Baltimore House. It's like, you know, it's club, it's it's
it's dance music. And she was like, yo, I just
love the video. I like how strong and how incredible
you're looking at it, and that's what it should be.
And one of the reasons why I really like I
think it was the right decision. She said something to
the effect of, like someone else like, why is going

(50:54):
it a black woman, you know. And she was like, well,
why not? Every other thing is white and male, why
wouldn't be a black woman. I was just like, and
this is why I took the role, because she you know,
she's she sees what we bring to the world as
women like but she wasn't and she wasn't afraid of
reference that, you know. And so then that was so

(51:15):
groundbreaking for a lot of people. How many seasons, like
six seasons in a movie.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
That's a good franchise.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah, thank you. He was right.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Six plus in the movie.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
Clayton already told you how your song made us feel
as American boys? What was this.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Like? What what made you stick with that concept? How
did that come about? What I was in?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I was in the beach in Miami. I was at
the beach. So I'm recording.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Also conservative.

Speaker 12 (52:00):
On the beach.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Before that.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Okay, I lived my life. Oh my god, I'm on
the beach.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
No, it was four.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Okay, okay, I will crash a four wheel.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I have done.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
This is ridiculous. I have no it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I do not do it.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
It's a good time. But no, I was on the
beach for John Well. No, I was not on the
feature John. I was in Miami and John was recording,
and all the time they was recording, I was like,
I'm going to the beach. This is I'm not staying
in the studio with you people, just moving around. I
had a session with where I am that week and
I'm just waiting to see when it Yeah, because he's

(53:00):
the American boy, and that's that's so we go ahead.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I hate to cut you off, but just the network
of friends that you.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Are saying that, she sounds so great.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
You're just kicking with.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Im on the beach, not like you gotta call and books,
just like he left, gotta do this.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Let me go to the beach.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
That's crazy. That's so good.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Thank you about right Miami.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
What I was, I mean your friends and they respect
your mind, and this is how you're vibing and creating
this That is lead you.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Want to beat you getting mad if you call him William? Okay,
that's the question you get just as mad as jail ed.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
You.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
What do you do like this in the studio while
you're back then.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
You know, get out of here.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
You I see you, Oh my god, Oh.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's why are you like? I'm like, I'm trying to
remember the story.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
I'm just like went to thea.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I went to the beach waiting for my session to go,
and so come back and next day we start the
session and John's like, so, what you been doing? And
I was like, beach hanging out. Sometimes Cuban boys loved me.
I didn't know the Recuban at the time. I have
to correct myself and say this now. It was to
me it was like, oh my goodness, let's speak in Spanish. Yeah,

(54:51):
so we don't have a big Latino community and the
ky So my mind is blow the entire time. And
then just like say what together.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
All d you know? They them up today, all the vibes, and.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'm just saying, like my mind like if they were
great like and also I have the thing where I
listen to people speak. I like to I hear melody
and you know, and anyhow, and Johnes is looking at.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Me like what what I was like?

Speaker 2 (55:28):
They they hold on, you know, don't worry about it's
good will is right.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
About that.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
You wrote about it American one who really Hispanic, and it.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Made it about everybody you were. But the emaginal starting
point was like, oh my goodness, I'm on the beach
and this is just a fun time, you know, like
it was the whole It was on me and my hunggirl. Yeah,
it was a wild I will say it, well, I
will say yes, but you know, like I said, it was.
And then we're fresh from London, so the accents extra strong,

(56:04):
so it doesn't matter black guys. It was just everybody.
It was like, oh my goodness, the British girls and
we were just like, let's go get margarita and like,
but what's the way home?

Speaker 4 (56:15):
You come?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
It was a good time.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
That was so it was.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
It was fun. So we go in and John's like,
whatch ha been up to? And I'm like on the
beach and you know, he's like, well, let's right about that.
And the same thing. He goes in and and melodies
and I go into our melody and then we both
call or in the alliance.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Held bring back.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I'm a student.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I'm a student.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I'm right here.

Speaker 8 (56:39):
Had the conversation. He said, all right, now let's write
about this. He takes everything, he goes and make the beat.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
He makes the beat like.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Well, I am had the beat and he was playing
three beats, playing playing three beats. First of all, he
played me wait a Minute, which was the very first single,
and I'm like, oh, that's screaming little such a love
that sample. Let's let's do that one. He's like okay,
So we wrote that record, put it down, and then
American Boy came around and he was like, I don't.
I said that feat is it? And he's like, no,

(57:14):
I don't. I don't know if that's a hit. I said,
that's the one, and if we don't make it back,
I'll go to ib from making your money back. They're
gonna love this in the UK. I'm in Europe. We're good. Yeah,
it'll be good.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
So yeah, you're like, okay, I know this don't work it.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
And that's my thought. No, that's my thought for us
as if I can. If it works for me, it's
something that I believe in and I know that I
can do it at home, going.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Everywhere, like over here, we can't. If you don't work,
it don't work.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
She's like, I could take it to the game. We're
gonna be like, let's try it in the UK. It's
already you should.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Well, that's if it's gonna work. I don't think that's
even a real If you love it, and it's your ship.
It's gonna work wherever you take it. You know, that's mine.
That's that's always been my thing. But selling it to
them was just like, no, give me, I know what
place I can go perform that girl right now. But
other than that, I just loved it and believed in
the record. The baseline is one thing an American boy

(58:22):
that is don't matter if I just have a bass player, Yeah,
that song, I have a hand clap. I can sing
that song. It's just a guitar. I can sing that song.
And that's that's my through line with every single record,
like can I do this, do this, I do this,
I do this easy? Yeah. But that that was literally that,

(58:43):
and we'll put the record out elsewhere, and we came
back around, figured it out and he released it.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
It feel like that's one of them songs that.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
It No.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
He had already recorded a version of it like a
vibe record, and had just released it in the UK
and a very small label and the whole album, so
it wasn't the single of the album, just on this album,
and people who knew him loved him found that record
and they were like, but this is the will I
am record? I was like, excuse me, bro. He was
like he was like, yeah, that was crazy that came up. Okay,

(59:28):
I'm not going.

Speaker 15 (59:36):
No, I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
So I was perfect, especially he we put it out
and it just went and did everything he needed to do.
Kanye go on it maybe six months to eight months
after we recorded it. That's it, uh, and he we
wanted him on it. It wasn't like this is a
thing to make her blow up. It was like the
is gonna go. This is a juggleal how can we

(01:00:02):
make it sleeping over?

Speaker 9 (01:00:05):
I was like, I mean should guy, what's a record
that you win in the studio that you just absolutely
like your feeling world favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Like I think at the time of this is my
I can listen to this like I just recorded. It's
not exactly where I was and this the original demo
vocal from my house, a song called break My Heart
featuring Red Cross. I remember where I was and it
was like forecast in it, which is weird. But the
guy I was with at the time, I was like,

(01:00:40):
I wrote this record out of just a pure blue sky,
like the four hour scenario, and I wasn't doing it frequently.
Then I just did it in that moment and never
did it again for like six years. And at the
time I was like, this is it's not with this record,
and you know, I told the label and that was
the second album all to me. But that record makes
me just feel like I want them and the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Like this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, I don't want to relift a heartbreak. But every
single song, you know, and I feel like I got
to listen new records. This album the same vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It was always a bad excited about it. I'm excited.
What's the name of the new album?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
What is coming?

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
I can't tell you just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Us, but I will say I have four records out
right now, well probably by the time you hear this,
Oh I fire Love on Love and the song cale
New Directions, and these songs were made from like twenty eighteen,
started in twenty twelve. BLUs made from twenty eighteen through
to maybe we're just literally mixing as we go right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Shit, he says, was.

Speaker 16 (01:01:58):
Whoa, it's timeless music, even though you take the studio,
did be recorded with the music you've made, Like you said,
eighteen year dropping twenty five, it takes a minute, it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Takes a million.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Why now when because we need joy, we need love,
and I think if God gave me all this music
to give, now would be the time to get it going.
And also I listen, I pray a lot, as I've said,
and I don't. I don't really. I don't getting my
ego about when, and we have to because people ain't.

(01:02:36):
He gave it to me. He's going to make the
pall straight and let people who need to hear it
hear it. Who is four? Us who is four? And
it's you know, and they're going to get it in
the time they get it in. There's people who were
just discovering I had a reggae album out now, and
I did that in twenty I put that out in
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 8 (01:02:51):
It's like you had a whole reggae I'm just like, oh,
butch up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
But when you're meant to hear it, you're meant to
hear it, not to say that this is what this is.
But I took my time with this and wanted to
wait for the right features. I wanted to put everything
in the right place. As much as I proposed to
be good and let the producer do this thing too.
I didn't want to just be like good. I want
to live with it. I want to ride with it.
I want to see how allowed it to feel and
how joyful. Yeah, this is if this is whacking. It

(01:03:22):
was just me in the house, like just because everything
was quiet or and it wasn't you know, you know
what I love.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
About you, Like we've been following each other on social
media for a long time, but you show a lot
of love to just a lot of a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Like I've been seeing you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
Laughing at the at the comedy pages, the reals and
the music.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
You be all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Man, we live jewel lied, we live everywhere. And I
don't I don't hate. I don't really see the whole. Well,
you can't like this person sing too much because they're
going to think you're too drawing. Like what makes me
laugh makes me laugh, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I just hit that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yeah, and I think you guys are funny. You kept
us alive during the Panditi and before Okay, I was listening. Look,
I was looking on YouTube, like looking at the full
like old shows that you were like, I am going
to see you on Netflix. That ship made my heart thing.
I was so joyful. I was like, this is this
isn't it seems to be proud, like, so appreciate mother.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
What kind of advice do you give artists that come
up to you like the next are still a lot
of London that she's from the East Side though, she
you know, because it's no blueprint to really do what
you've done, but you made it easier for the next
person because you bridge the gap between America.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
And the and the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So well, you know, Lousens did that for me. They
did that for me. Who else a bunch of things
in the UK from Beverly Nighties, Paris. Uh, so many
people did that for me. I can't stand here and
say like I'm the first.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
No, parts not the first, but you got to keep
the legacy going for sure, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Keep legacy talking. Uh, Marsha and flower Tree did that
for me too, right. So what I always tell people,
and it's always a question like, well how do I
how do I like? You're a singer thing, you're an artist?
Be artist. All the other shit you're worrying about is
standing in the way, your ego standing in the way.
Stop thinking overthinking this shit and just create like I

(01:05:25):
did it. I'm writing a book because I keep getting
that question and it's just my perspective. Tweak it, make
it your own.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
My thing is just I'm gonna show you how you
get how I got there. And I had to learn
these lessons on the fly because there was no physical
example of like come here, stay here, move with this person.
Don't do that shit I said, don't do that shit.
It was none of that for me. I was doing
the shit and fuck it. I'm being like, oh God,
let's go again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
So I'm writing all that in the book. But my
main thing is always just create, stop making excuses about it,
make really good music, stop judging the music, don't overthink it,
and pray, like whoever you pray to. I believe in
spirituality over religion.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
However you get to God is how you get to God. Right,
But yeah, the being that is bigger than all of
us for directions and do the fucking thing, like stop
overthinking and stuff. Dude, Yeah, get out your way. That's
my main thing to like, well how are you? And
I'm just like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Here, go doors open. I'm like cool, I'm gonna run
through it full speed. Don't stop running cool, keep going.
All right, we're living in real life. That's my thing. Yeah,
is that okay?

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
We're good.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
Because it's like even you know us as comedians and
he's a musician.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
You do is very talented.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Hey, your residuous talents were crazy too.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
So it's just like just to be able to get
some insight on somebody who was creative, just to see
what the process is and how you navigate the decisions,
you know what I mean, because sometimes we do shit
and we don't know the impact that it's having on
somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Like you said, the lady who knew the album cut,
that's her, that's her ship that you know.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
And then sometimes people come up to us and tell
us about a moment that happened, and it's like, man,
I needed wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I was at a point where it would nothing make
me laugh, But I sat and I watched and got
me out of that space. Like that's that's the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Thing, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
They're saying like there's fifty eleven things and even put
so many bodies you just want to execute. You start,
you go out on your value ites like what makes
me fun? What makes me laugh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And you the way you do comedy is observant as fuck,
And I love it, you know, and it's just like
a very like this is this is this is this
is why I follow like because it's it's truth. You know,
it's not it's not made up. Yeah, and I wish
more people would think that instead of thinking me, are

(01:08:09):
we get in the way. This is the way that
this is that is done and I have to present
this way and I have to present that way all right,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
I can't do that.

Speaker 8 (01:08:26):
You're getting frustrated because everything will come with a problem
every once you know that, and you're like, oh see,
I was so focused on thinking that once I get done,
this problem ain't gonna have problems.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
You just gotta learn the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
So yep, it was mean thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
I'm a n R. I'm the a R on the
new DC album We need you What needs you on?
What needs you need? A session? Fact, Yeah, we ain't
gonna We're gonna actually ready for you be quick.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I want to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
For a hour. I'm gonna pray for come on, she's
gonna stop.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
He's a decent.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
American where we're gonna give her so much.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
It's gonna be so much CASTRM five teens and ways she's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Gonna be like come on Man, I'm ready to go around.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
It's on the top on this turn that phones up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Now it's just funny here hearing the journey though, you
know what I'm saying, because as an artist like you
just hear like the process.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
I think, I just.

Speaker 8 (01:09:48):
You know what I'm saying, have finally just got to
a point like bro, it's just the process. The only
thing that's different between you and there was a pla
plaque on the wall and it's literally let me measure
that what it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Feels like, the hanger plague on the walls.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Just that's just from thinking about like you know, you're
growing up, You're sitting in your room. You go from
from the notebook to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Your point. You know how many records will never see
the light day, never get to that one grammy and
that one two million and at one moment and people
coming up saying to get all of those that record
there are there are there are that tapes hard drives
this big and my vocals on him that will never

(01:10:34):
see the light of day, please Jesus, because they were terrible,
Okay to get to that point, And I think it's
just one of the things that I did before I
decided to move. Here was in between all of the
discussion with the label again, I was praying I went
to a real depressive era. I call it depressive, but

(01:10:55):
it wasn't. It was good, like singling me out to
like get me right, and I was like, get clear
on what do you what do you want? I want
to win a Grammy. I'm going to win a Grammy.
I'm winning a Grammy. I wonner Grammy. Like how the
words mean things right? And it took me getting to
that place and then being like, I'm going to get
out the way of the house. I don't know how.

(01:11:16):
I didn't even expect it. When it happened, I was
I got no I got told I was nominated when
I was leaving another hotel in maybe Vienna or something
on tour, and I was pissed. I want to go home.
It was cold, I was tired. I didn't know where
home was. I just moved from London. Family wasn't really
in the US like that. And I got told I
was nominated, and I was big piss going home. I'm

(01:11:39):
coming down at the elevator and I get a phone
call and I'm just like, what are they calling me
for now who else I got paid? Like what the fuck?
Like can you leave me? I just want to get
on the box. I can't even but I'm performing every
night and I'm giving him my all. And they were like,
you got nominated two Grammys. I stopped in the middle

(01:12:00):
of the street in Vienna and did a look at
praise dogs. I was like, thank you, like I had
a whole and then when I wanted, I want it
on the carpet. So the how is inconsequential to God's
saying like I told you you could get it, like
just do the things, put in the work, or just yeah,
out of the way, let me make it so you know?

(01:12:21):
Does I say like there's fifty eleven different songs that
will never see the light of day. There are moments
that I could have taken I didn't take when God
says yes, and when it says your time and you
can't agreement with him and you save your time. It's whatever.
Holding the plaque is one thing. I've had it at
the house. Grammy's cute. But the memory and the feeling

(01:12:43):
of those moments being God like he told me I
was gonna get a Grammy. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
For me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
That's the thing I carried like shit, you don't lie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
You lie, you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Don't look it from you. We're here telling the truth
for the Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
That's the clear understand.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
And to the people who are watching this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I don't know chimes. You have to see people say
this or hear people say this.

Speaker 10 (01:13:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
You gotta speak your dreams into life. Man, you know what.
You can't just sit on that.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
Man because she just said it's crazy. Because like you said,
most y'all did hit me. They said it was specific.
I wouldn't that was specific. Always said I just wanted
to do music.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
That's the face.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
To make it somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
So he's just like you doing the music.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
That's the faith right there.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
You feel like God just we want to know if
you're gonna be bold enough to say it, because you
gotta somebody got to laugh at it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Somebody got to tell you that it ain't gonna have prime.
But you're the one who gotta believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Rights.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
It's what you ain't nobody to say out loud to
nobody around. I did it out loud on my balcony
to nobody else.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
See.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
I always just wanted to make it and gave my.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Family out the goods. That was just the goal he got.
He gave me the gone somewhere else. So he was
just like I gained him same go Now what what
what else?

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Just like music? Easy?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
I was just put you around music for yourself. I'm
put you on the wrong people who that you do music.
So it's not really the plant, it's not really you
want to make it out the hood.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
They really like your music, But what do you want
to what do you want to do with the music.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
It's not just like help I just like being a composer.

Speaker 8 (01:14:35):
Like I realized, like that's what I like to do,
just like by you hearing say that, Yes, you really
just saying I'm like that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
That's it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
It's good that, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
That's all I want to tell the folks stop playing.
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
That's it, that was it. And if you want to
help me, look and I'll give you this if you
want more. Nothing wrong with that. Yes, there's nothing wrong
with saying I like hearing people hear my music and
I like that. But you know what, God, I want
to go on this tour and I want to do
it like this. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Think

(01:15:11):
I think you have a gift and you will to
do with that. Purpose pushes you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
You gotta go stay. I want to cut it out.

Speaker 12 (01:15:27):
I want to cut it down.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Lord, when you cut it out, I made it up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Got cigarette?

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
How you take this?

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
A beauty Charlie, But praise for your front there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
But I said, want you to take the blood. I
want my nephew off some Drew.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Ride.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Oh my god, I know your drilling.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Jesus, Wait a minute, I know you Drew.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
This felt bad too young?

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
He meddled with this stuff. I won't better for it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
I think you have looks.

Speaker 17 (01:16:35):
But that's so funny, brod here the break from from.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Held this week.

Speaker 7 (01:16:46):
I saw what do you want?

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
He think?

Speaker 12 (01:16:49):
No, nobody, nobody, I'm stealing, just gonna let him. It
wouldn't be shipped if we if we didn't get you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
Oh my god, we got YOUSELFO.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I had a wonderful time when I come to the
stuff every time, okay, from food to the to them.
So I had a strip up stories. I was like,
oh God, stricken stories. So this one good time at bank.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
Okay, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
A yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I have gone there one. Wait, a few years ago
a few years ago. I had to show out here
all right because I'm I'm a polite tipper. I don't
like throwing chap people. I'm a free face back no,
I okay like that in their hands, but in their hands, okay,

(01:18:03):
what are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
You go?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
It's just so well.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
And that you did so well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I did great job. It's just awkward for me because
a lot of a lot of ladies with dancing always
like they genuine love. It's not like oh she's just
like no, I love that song. And they came and
hug me, and I'm just like thank you, because it's
just glar everywhere. It's a wild time. I had did

(01:18:31):
a show one time, and I did it after event
at the show, the venue and STEVJ camp. He made
us him and my team. That guy over there hatched
the plan to get me to the homes of Atlanta.
STEVJ was going to be hosting table down there. I am,

(01:18:52):
I'm I'm quite polked. Okay, guys. Again, like I said,
I'm not going to throw money at people. I just
you know, don't show. We get to look and these
guys left me there with TVJ. This is STVJ right
the height of the team on the show Why did
you leave? How would you leave me? In the club

(01:19:12):
for the fun? Okay? And I'm just there looking around
like what really do and our three faces are like,
I me, these is these are generals we are but
like it was very intense. It was so we go
in there. I'm trying to like find my way to

(01:19:34):
like just be for like and be nice. And then
I go to the bathroom and I come back and
he's like, get over here, you guys, stop that shy ship.
And I'm just like, it's okay, okay, I just want
to sit down. And then he gets this lady to
do it Dars for me, and it's just the whole
spectacle and I'm just like, okay, get a stage and
she's like she's going like it's crazy. She's going crazy.

(01:19:57):
Is it's a lot?

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
And he turns to me, Oh god, just say his
boss ship. Oh no. He turns around and I'm looking
I never heard he was.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
He tells around. She's like and this point, everything's wide open,
and I'm just like I don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
To say.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
And he's like, nah, look at the asshole.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
And I was like, no, what.

Speaker 15 (01:20:35):
And it was like at the end of the dogs,
she could see it was just a whole. I was
like to share in my life and especially I took
them like take them out. I was like, okay, here,
you're going this so well, so well, and I gave
her a Bundy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
She was like, I was like, gotta go. It's just
like that was like, I'm not good at that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
I just feel like back up, knew best.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
But the growing up, the woman, the treat you allful family.
It's weird for me to be like I on the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I just didn't feel good. They cussed me out by it.
They laugh for me.

Speaker 11 (01:21:19):
Here they getting naked, so it'd be like, you know what,
that's part of you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Like he spread that puss. Then they turned around the spread.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Like hell no, oh my god, dam and I'm like,
don't do it like that. Curious.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
We used to go to at the Blue Flame.

Speaker 7 (01:21:35):
Right well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Life who got tres.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Flexing, big women flex right, not getting on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
That's too much.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Way you do it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
The whole club going.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Called the ads flat contest. Go on, Christy man, oh man,
you ain't seen no ship like this these days. Getting
out of Prinson, they coming from way back here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
They didn't want to hit a nigga like that for
so long.

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
What the stripper do christ because they didn't give us
six hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Oh my god, strip it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Gotta have your script flood.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
They had me singing American boy. Was it was strange
yea god damn thank you they did.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
They made me saying it was like, did you see
we get screw.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Thank you? This is this is this is my color to.

Speaker 8 (01:22:56):
Come back.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Got stopped back in here. Yeah, you know, something like
killing for killer little stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
As thank you, this is very cool.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Thank you one more.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
Time, because you know the ladyship we had, we ain't
had nothing that fits specifically for them because we went, yeah,
we got some form even for the baby mama.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
If your stomach out this summer, don't even cook it,
don't worry about it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Pull that out. Come on now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Why you like this? This is fine?

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
And I love that little love hard.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
It's just very dope exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
You know, for the love somebody, somebody do that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
It's good. It's bed to make a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
We love the love of love like that because you
pull back up here.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Well, because.

Speaker 6 (01:23:55):
He don't let it be your last let them know
where they can find you on social media.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
You can we can expect the album.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Oh yeah, you can find me at Estelle Darlings, pretty
much everything, Twitter, Instagram, threads, blue sky.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Facebook is for a slash of style. If you're on Facebook, Yeah,
TikTok jumping.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I know a lot of people about to get back
on Facebook.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
I'm about to get back on there because the social
media is kicking me off the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Record together you got it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Yeah, that's really what I want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
I really like okay, but Clark okay, and actually get
my ship, which it's true what I'm saying that playing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Before this, what's the what's.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
The girl sound like?

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Erica?

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Oh wow, we love we love Yeah, we love her.

Speaker 18 (01:24:55):
Favorite and I like something walk or two mm hm,
she's bad. It's a lot of great something walk her back.
It's a lot of them already.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
I'm saying, I'm really only for the soul feel right now.

Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
You already it's just Neil so no, it's just I
know you and her something will be magnificent out of that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Agree.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
I don't know what, but put it together right, you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Suck it up. She already got in in the place
I can tell you by the way she is really
So we'll do what.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Do you have the rustle of the album? I got
your moses on the album else we haven't ever thinking
about this. All the nices on the album. Yeah, that's
Taylor is a singer from DC Credible Arts. The album
that Neil.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
So I'm gonna send my part in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Okay, roughen for me.

Speaker 6 (01:25:58):
I'm saying something. We'll do it like a ninety skiit
like I'm on the voicemail.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Okay, Grace, Okay, told you in the wrap.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
Yeah, I put it at the head.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Okay, this is just now leaving why.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Man, I ain't made it to the end of the album.
I had wrote the little verses you told me. I
ain't got no beat over here. But listen to it,
just just be this. Hold on, say what.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Come on? You say that Hello?

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Hello, Damn, that's gonna be a co.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
We actually listen to voicemail. We were literally this just
to see to listen to the voicemail.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
If it ain't good, what are you gonna call?

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
You call you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
And you listen to yeah right voice, and I need
help for real.

Speaker 17 (01:27:13):
I'm gonna be really listen, listen boy man, Now that
I got to like for something like parent if it takes,
tell me to go to day.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
I still this motherfucker had the same voicemail for at
least thirteen years. What play?

Speaker 6 (01:27:31):
Hey, what's up? You reached Clayton English? I can't answer
the phone right now. The name number and a mess.
I'll get back to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
You, just to get back your name.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
I need my number.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
What the fuck do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
What did you want?

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
I really wish I knew what the you bought it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Nobody?

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
Boys mail, nobody, boysmail standing and the motherfucker you ain't
called back? You know they may because they start assuming
what you're doing. Yeah, man, it's me just hitting you again.
I guess you be as a sleeping south.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
I was trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
You must.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
You know, family right with you? Get with me when
you can?

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
Hey bird now one one now one, nigga lead three.
On the third voicemail, he'd just be like, all right, man,
say that broe what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
I see how it is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
You ain't got to hit me back? Crazy, it's so
far that niggas stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Bro, you gotta hit back.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Think no way you're gonna give me permission.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
You ain't got empty back all right? Then one was
the days of me.

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
You have fifteen unheard messages, Alise, I'm doing that lit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Sh let me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Out here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
That mother fucking crazy man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
This is this is the type of show.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
This is a dude funked up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Keep going, keep going, It's gonna keep going like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
This.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
What's the tears for me? He's really gone?

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Wait a minute, he said, was just.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Yeah, I don't know what you got going on today. Man,
I don't hit you a couple of times money. That
was the day man voicemail.

Speaker 6 (01:30:48):
The town.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Was this ship wasted all that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
I don't remember this well, Stiff.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
We literally sit here and talk ship at.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
You all, and I could just see here look at you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
He was off forever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
This larous a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
No, it's great. Right, you gotta come back when the
album make us part of your promo.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Right, Yeah for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Yeah you have all the songs. It all up.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Well, guys, this has.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Been another great episode of the eighty five Stops Show.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Anything you want to leave me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Have fun, live on off by the album.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
When it comes God first, what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Sure that keep laughing, stay in your joy man, This
is it. Tune into a five styles and stay laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
That's right, because I always remember you ain't got a
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