March 12, 2025 • 28 mins
In Episode 20 of The Backcourt Podcast, YES Network’s Sarah Kustok and NetsDaily’s Lucas Kaplan spotlight Noah Clowney’s return and his ongoing development. They break down the team’s recent games—the highs, the lows, and everything in between—as the Nets look to close out the season strong. Plus, Lucas tests Sarah’s Nets trivia knowledge.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You are now in the backcourt a Brooklyn Nets podcast
presented by Ticketmaster. I'm Lucas Kaplan, writer for Nets Daily,
also have Nets Film Focus. We have some great stuff
coming for you in that regard some content on the
Nets x's and o's as of late. But also joining me,
of course, is Sarah Kustack. You know her from Yes
Network broadcasts and a bunch of other places. So Sarah,
(00:29):
how are.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We We're great? We're great. Coming off of a win
here in Cleveland, the Nets snap their seven game losing
street opportunity to potentially snap a streak of the Cabs tonight,
so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yep. That reminds me to tell you we are recording
between a Nets back to back, Sarah making time in
a very busy schedule. As she said, she's out in Cleveland.
The Nets beat the Los Angeles Lakers last night in Brooklyn,
then they flew immediately out to take on the Eastern
Conference's best team. So by the time you're hearing this,
(01:03):
that game will have been decided. We'll have more fun
stuff to talk about for next week. But as you mentioned,
coming off a win in an electric Barkley Center filled
to the brim, obviously, lots Lakers fans, lots of Nets fans.
It was a really fun time. And so what do
you think the main takeaways from this past week.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Are, Lucas, I think there's a lot to take away
when you look at the week as a whole, and
maybe a handful of situations and areas that the Nets
could have been better, could have improved. You go back
to that loss against San Antonio, obviously, the loss against Charlotte,
and then the opportunity to kind of redeem themselves with
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how they were able to close out the game. And
the big thing that stood out to me was that
second half at Berkley's, a tight game, of which it
was the Nets that got down early in that one.
Unlike the Effer games I mentioned San Antonio Golden State Warriors,
I'm losing. I'm losing track of our days and games
and weeks where you're setting the tone jumping out to
a big lead. Same thing at Charlotte, having a big
(02:03):
lead and relinquishing it. I think this was a very
different look and it was the Nets who were struggling
with how they're able to convert from the field from
the three point line, and the Lakers hide cooking despite
the fact that they were missing handful of key players,
including Lebron James, our friend Dorian Finney Smith, and I
think overall, you know, the big part of the season
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has been about growth, about experiences, shared experience, and then
how you find a resiliency to learn from those, and
that to me was the sign of growth of Okay,
you're able to not only fight back from a big hole,
hold on to a lead, have a back and forth
finish in a electric barklay center, and find a way
to shut the door. And that was really really impressive
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because they did it on both sides of the floor.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They definitely did it on both sides of the floor.
It was a journey to being able to clean up
the glass. For me this week, it was a journey
to being able to apply pressure against you know, opposing
ball handlers. We've talked about it a lot on this podcast,
trapping near half court, extending the defense, applying pressure. But
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in the first two losses the Nets had this week
against Golden State and against Charlotte, they gave up a
ton of offensive rebounds and second chance points. Now part
of that, obviously, Charlotte especially missed a ton of shots early,
so you have more opportunities to grab, you know, offensive rebounds.
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But finally, you know, against the Lakers, the Nets only
allow eight offensive boards, they grabs sixteen for themselves, all
while forcing fifteen turnovers and only turning it over seven times.
So when you create a possession disparity that big, that's
going to lead to a win. And it's funny. I
thought it was actually good for them to go down early,
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like I felt like, it's almost relaxes you. I don't
know if you have gotten that sense where NBA leads
are hard to keep, so it's just kind of inevitably
right that if you go up double digits in the
first half, it means almost nothing based on how good
everybody is at scoring the ball now. So I almost
felt like being on the other end of that for
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the Nets against LA kind of took the pressure off
them a little bit in a weird way. I don't
know if you felt that last night at the game.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't. I appreciate this opinion, and I'm not disagreeing
with it, but I'm not sure that's I'm not sure
I know what you're saying, though, I'm not sure that's
how I would frame it because I think so often
we the Golden say Warriors game for example, Yeah, I loved,
loved the startpack ber. Yeah, and they always seem to
That's why I'm really excited. I guess, well, the listeners
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will in viewers will see what happens because this will
drop after the Cleveland Cavaliers came earlier in the season. Here,
this is the Cavs were on a I think at
that point a sixteen game maybe, with seventeen maybe, and
it just took them down to what the game plan,
the execution, the focus, the sense of purpose, the energy,
all of that always seems to be at a heightened
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level when they're playing some of the best competition, the
best teams in the league. And I love that. I
love that for this group. I love it for the
coaching staff. And it doesn't matter who's playing or what
the lineup and roster looks like, it feels that way.
And so it felt that way with the Warriors. So
you love that out of the gates, that's the tone
they said. But to your point, in every game, it
always seems like, oh you let go of this lead. Well,
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that is the NBA, and that is runs and at
some point it doesn't matter more often than not what
leads look like with the amount of possessions, with the
pace you're playing at, with three point shooting, all of
that a twenty point lead, it's some juncture for these
type of individuals and the level of talent you can
come back from that deficit. So I don't know if
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the relaxing, but more so just kind of having a
chip on their shoulder and realize that, Okay, these are
the things we need to do against this Lakers group.
And that second half you saw it in the defense
of intensity, the communication, how locked in they were, and
obviously the three point shooting. The Lakers are a team
that want to pack it in the paint unless you
just let it fly, and that has worked well for
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them defensively. But at some juncture a three point shooting
team like Brooklyn you were glad to see. Okay, those
shots now, those quality looks created are starting to go through.
And I think that varied by them attacking the basket,
getting in the mid range players seeing it go through,
and then on the flip side of things, the three
point shots started going through. But the other big number,
and you had mentioned this with the turnovers for the
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nets taking care of the basketball, the nets attacking the
offensive glass. But they created nineteen points off turnovers, and
that type of pressure that they put on Los Angeles,
especially down the stretch, especially the way they made it
so difficult between Lukadancic and Austin Reeves their two primary
scores and go to players and the ones that would
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be the highest usage with the ball in their hands.
They struggled, and I credit the Nets defense for how
difficult they made every look, every catch, showing bodies, multiple players,
different looks, all of those things. I think they should
feel really really happy about, or at least please with
themselves and giving themselves a foundation now to continue to
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build on.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And what was also evident about that Los Angeles went
on Monday is the standard to which Brooklyn's coaching staff
holds these guys to to which the team holds itself.
Because I think it is easy to say, well, we
create a lot of points off turnovers. That's how we
generate our offense. That's what we do, and they did
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it again. As you said, nineteen points off fifteen turnovers
really help them win that game. But it's not just
enough to do that if you're sacrificing maybe interior defense,
if you're sacrificing defensive rebounding, and Cam Johnson admitted postgame,
he said, you know, it is difficult because let's say
you trap at the top of the key or whatever,
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get a four on three. The offense can kind of
play in the middle of the floor. They can crash
hard from the corners, but it really is just about
effort and recovering. And if we do that, we truly
believe that we can create turnovers and pack the paint
and have a strong presence at the rim. And last
night against the Lakers, they shoot just forty percent from two,
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which is sixteen percent below league average. As I said,
the Nets win the glass. So I think Monday night
is really what it looks like when it all comes
together for Brooklyn. It starts up top, but what really
kind of makes or breaks them on defense is the
ability to make those second third efforts getting back to
the rim. We should also mention that since we recorded
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last time, Noah Clowney has returned. He's played three games.
Brooklyn's twenty year old sophomore. He was out for a
long time with a pretty rough looking ankle twist. This
was no normal kind of ankle sprain. But he missed,
including the All Star break. He missed fifteen games, you know,
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plus that extra week of the All Star break, and
he actually led the nets in scoring in his third
game back against LA. What did you see from him?
I know it's you know, three games, still getting his
feet wet, obviously, but general impressions, but to.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That point, still getting his feet wet, but also just
doing so really confidently. And I think, you know, you
look at a player like him in that Los Angeles game,
the importance of whether it was some of the playmaking
he had, the shots he had, and just the confidence
that he seemingly always has when he's on the floor.
Even look at closing out the game and you know
that last possession and his awareness, quart awareness and just
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heads up play. I think there are so many aspects
of his game that you like, and not only like
because of how he's producing now, but the upside of it.
And three point shooting is always something new point to
and he's a player who's showing an ability to not
only take those shots, feel comfortable taking those shots, do
so at a high level of effectiveness, but also just
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his steady the presence of his demeanor and disposition. I
think we're learning that and you know, for a young
player and how he shows up, I think that's something
you could tell that there's things that irritate him or
anger him, or the competitive nature comes out. But I
think overall you see a level of stoic stoicness if
that's if that's the right way to frame it for him,
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that I really value when I think as he gets
more experience, as he grows, as he gets more run
in time on the floor, that's something that's going to
continue to be such a great asset for him and
for this group on both as.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The floor minor correction for me, Noah. That was his
second game back, even more impressive against Los Angeles he
played first against Charlotte. Another positive that I want to
shout out and I guess now we can you know,
go kind of game by game is You mentioned how
detailed Brooklyn's game plans are and how they really rev
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it up for some of the best players and teams
in the league, and Golden State was a shining exam
of that.
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Speaker 1 (11:34):
What was so I guess off putting to Golden State's
offense and unique about the way Brooklyn attacked them because
I was talking to some people that cover the Golden
State Warriors and like, for example, Warriors enter the ball
to the post to Draymond, they run a lot of
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split actions. You know, he'll kick it out, He'll find
shooters from there. The Nets the side from the beginning
to try to deny Draymond Green those catches. Nick Claxton
guards Draymond. He's fronting the post preventing those catches. And
I was asking my Warriors friends, like, have you seen
a team try to do that? And they said, honestly, no,
not to our memory. We obviously haven't seen teams try
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to double Steph in the backcourt and you know, be
this physical with him off the ball. So something that
stood out to me this week and I posted it
a bunch of times on social media, was just it's
near playoff level game planning. It feels like from Brooklyn's
coaching staff against a lot of these elite players and teams.
And it felt from where I was sitting and you
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were sitting closer than me, just so physical and like intense.
And I know these are kind of buzzwords, but what
were your impressions of just how they came out defensively
against Golden State and really how they have done that
all year against the Thunder and SGA, against Denver and
nikol Jokich, you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You said it, and I appreciate that you said about
the playoff level right game planning, because that's really what
this is for this Brooklyn group of how they're going
to continue to learn. And I wish I wish I
had in front of me and Lucas. I know you
were sitting there at the press or it was I
believe a pregame press conference at home, and maybe it
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was the Golden State Warriors game where it may have
been a question that you asked for. Jordy Fernelle was
talking about with a young group, with a growing group,
you know, three tenets of a defense that you try
to start to implement. Do you remember this?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I'm you keep going, I'm gonna find the quote.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, but he was he was talking about you can't.
He believes you can do them all. But it's almost
like a piece meal of Okay, let's let's start with
this and then build to this, and let's start with
a level of pressure in physicality, and then let's build
to these whether it's switching schemes. And I think a
part of it is you know if you're if you're
gonna and maybe it is the pick and roll defense
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or the switching defense, or you know how you're gonna
play certain styles and what that looks like in the
study build, And to me, that's the long vision growth
in teaching these players. And regardless, I appreciate that part
of this too is these players getting experience just as
pros and as professionals, and whether it's here in Brooklyn
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next season, whether it's a different stop, whether no matter
what it may be, the understanding of how important that
is in the systematic ways in which so many NBA
teams play, because you see that crossover across the board.
And that's what I love, That's what I love about
this coaching staff of understanding. We're gonna we're gonna ask
a lot of you, we're gonna demand a lot of you,
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and we're gonna do this at a very very high level.
And then once we start hitting at this type of
pressure defense, turning turning teams over. You know, however, you're
gonna start playing certain coverages. Okay, now we're gonna add
this layer on because you've you've gotten to a point
where you've handled this, and now we're gonna we're gonna
start switching more. We're gonna communicate this and and to me,
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that goes back to when we're talking about why the
defense has improved over a significant stretch and what it
had done, and maybe there are some dips and some
ebbs and flows to it. It's a part of that
lack of thinking because all of a sudden becomes muscle
memory all but all of a sudden, it becomes instinctual
as opposed to thinking where you're supposed to be or
what I'm supposed to be doing, or the communication of
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players is much more free. And that's what I love
that I think we're seeing in this group, we're seeing
in this team, and that felt evident in that Warriors game.
So back to your original question, Steph was frustrated. Steff
one of the greatest players in the world, and you
could tell there was a level of frustration because of
that physical play, because bodies were getting into them because
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of the amount of pressure. There Upon, atum show into
and just different looks, and I love that. I love
that you're able to continue to see that. It was
very similar with Luka Dancic last night, and he's obviously
a very different player in how you're playing him, but
it was a Okay, make everyone else beat us, because
we're going to make this as challenging as possible for
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you to get the ball where you want to go
and for you to score and you to be highly efficient. Yeah,
Lucas still comes away with a triple double, but it
wasn't a thirty seven fifteen and twelve triple double. You know,
it was a lower level of efficiency and credit to
Gabe Vincent had a night, Jordan Goodwin had a night,
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you know, awesome, and that those are pro players and
that may happen. But I think often the understanding of
this is our game plan. We're going to roll the
dice on that, as opposed to a you know, perennial
All star, future Hall of Famer getting to do whatever
he wants and getting his and getting everyone else.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Theirs Luca twenty two, eleven and twelve on eight of
twenty six with five turnovers. I think you take that
every day of the week. And as you said, Jordan
Goodwin makes his first four threes, Dawn connect gets hot,
Gabe Vincent gets hot. These are all catch and shoot
threes that they really put up numbers on, and at
the end of the game, the ball's not in their hands.
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So you're having guys that are eight of twenty six
or Austin Reeves three or fourteen have to make these
decisions and their numbers would have been even worse. They
hit a couple logo threes to you know, in kind
of desperation time, try to cut into the nets lead
very I'm very happy that you brought up that quote
and to just to brag it was my question.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I knew it. I knew it. Yeah, go LK.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I think this was the most interesting and kind of
revealing quote from the last week from these press conferences too.
So I asked Jordie about you know, playing thank you,
this is great, this is real reporting right here, Jordi Fernandez, Uh,
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you know runs these very aggressive defenses, traps, playing up
the floor, And so I asked, you know, what kind
of goes into that philosophy, because I feel I, oh,
like you know, for a while in the NBA it
was drop coverage, protect the rim, you know, the Bucks
winning that title in twenty one that way, I think
was really influential. But he asked, you know, I disagree
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that it's such a league wide trend. Quote. If when
you watch the best defenses in the playoffs, the best
defenders pick up full court, they can do everything. So
going back to the best defensive teams in the NBA,
they're able to do one, two, and three. You can
play up the floor, so trapping, hedging, blitzing, you can
play down the floor, packing the paint, drop coverage all that,
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or you can switch. When you're a young team, it's
unfair to ask them to try to do all three things.
You try to do one, and in my opinion, you
try to do what's most aggressive first and then you
evolve to be a team that can switch coverages easily
and still be very good. And I thought that quote
was very illuminating because he's telling us very gracious, very
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thankful to him for you. Obviously you didn't have to
say all that, telling nets fans, this is why I'm
doing this, this is why we play defense this way.
To me, it makes a lot of sense. If they're
going to try to master or really excel in one coverage,
it might be the type of coverage that has these
young guys, these hungry dudes, flying all over the floor
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and creating turnovers. To me, I think it's much more
fun to watch Zia Williams, Keon Johnson, Jalen Wilson, Noah Clowney,
Nick Laxton try to cover as much ground as possible.
It creates energy, and I think for a young team,
creating that energy on defense, to me, seems like a
pretty good way to go. And I appreciate Jordy for
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saying that, and I think that they probably would have
won that Golden State game. The issue was not I
think in the second half how aggressive they were on defense.
I think they kept that up. I think Steph making
a couple threes that ignited some crazy threes that ignited
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the crowd, and this happens in a lot of Golden
State games. Kind of got to them. Some overreactions, maybe
double teaming the perimeter, Draymond Green slips to the basket
for a dunk, and so I think in the first
half for me, it was they lived with Steph and
a couple other guys hitting tough threes, and I think
in the second half they kind of, I don't want
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to say wilted to that pressure, but maybe overreacted and
ended up giving up some open layups. And fast forward
a week later against the Lakers, Lakers shoot forty four
percent from three, forty percent from two. So the nets
never wilted, they never overreacted to Jordan Goodwin, Dalton connect
these guys hitting threes, and so between that and the rebounding,
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this week kind of self contained, felt like a self
contained journey. It felt like they started doing these things
not really excelling at some and then they've kind of
put it all together. So I felt pretty satisfied by
these three games, even though it was just one and two,
especially with Noah coming back, and again like kind of
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an encapsulation of their season almost to me, a very
like fitting week to have in March.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well said, you nailed.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It, so moving on, I feel like Brooklyn's finest. We
can give it to Noah Clowney for coming back playing
two really exciting games. I don't know if there's anyone
else you had in mind that you wanted to shout
out anything like that.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, I mean I would sick with Noah. I just appreciate.
I feel like everyone had some really solid performances in
a lot of different areas and a lot of different
ways despite the loss. I thought D'Angelo Russell was really
good in that Charlotte game and did an excellent job
just kind of orchestrating what the offense was doing and
how he was able to have his fingerprints in a
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lot of different areas, not only getting his points but
facilitating for others. And again credit to like a play
like Zion Williams who did not shoot that well against
the Lakers, but the defensive intensity. I think you can
kind of go down the list of so many players
understand just because my SHOT's not falling or certain aspects
have not worked well, there's other areas that I could
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still impact the game. And I think that's the continued
growing process for this group of realizing that type of
resiliency within the game. And I think we saw that
from a lot of players, and it culminated with that
win against the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yes, and we didn't talk a ton about the Charlotte
game because I felt the Lakers game, a fresher in memory,
be more important story because it's about the bounce back
from the Charlotte game where the Nets did lose a
second athlete. But we would be remiss not to shout
out D'Angelo Russell, who put up twenty eight points, six boards,
and seven assists in that game and scored fifteen in
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the fourth, almost willing the Nets to victory. Zia Williams
also hit four threes and scored nineteen points in that game.
So guys did have solid performances in Charlotte, and a
three point loss soured that a little bit. But coming
back on Monday and getting to win huge and I'll
ask you. I'll start with you, who is your next net,
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you know, finding these next nets this season scene, Who
can be a part of this long term culture team building.
Who are you looking forward to watching hoop this next week.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think we've I think we've kind of went through
everyone in some capacity, but I will circle back. I
know he's our finest and I know that we've talked
about him quite a bit, but it is Noah Clowney.
The fact that he's returned from injury, he's played in
two games. What does it look like now, is he's
back in the line up, healthier, getting extended run. The
things that we're looking for out of him is this
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season continues to kind of come a little bit closer
to the close, the final stretch run of how he's
going to continue to impact this play by Brooklyn. And
we've seen so much upside, so much positive, so many
things to be excited about. But I think this is
a very real opportunity, and especially this week against some
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great team. You know, you look at playing the Calves
here tonight, this will now have already past. But the
Chicago Bulls team that's ahead of you intent place you're
gonna see Boston twice Atlanta like this. This is a
significant stretch to me, this week of compacted games. Then
I'm excited to watch.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, we got a busy week coming up, all those playing,
all those teams. I was excited to see Noah Clowney
try to get to the rim a little bit, try
to do some stuff off the dribble transition. So against
the Lakers, he scores nineteen points on five of eleven,
but three of eight from three and seven free throws,
so he tacked the glass. He had a couple takes
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off the catch. That's obviously the part of his game
that I think is most intriguing. I think we know
that he can really shoot the three, be a strong
catch and shoot guy. We know that he can cover
a lot of ground and be a long, lanky, disruptive
dude on defense. I think that's the last thing, or
not the last thing, but something that every time he
has a nice take or puts the ball on the
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floor really catches my eye. So Noah's a great choice
for next net, not just over the next week, but
really this final quarter of the season that we're approaching.
I would just like to shout out camp Thomas for
next Net. You know, he's had some big scoring games
since he returned because that's what he does. Did not
play in the Lakers game as he's still returning from injury,
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getting ready to play against the Cavs tonight, against the
Laker or against the Hornet. Sorry, he scores sixteen points
seven of eighteen, but he kind of had a better
first half than the second half. I think Charlotte really
up to the defensive pressure on him towards the end
of the game, and I'm curious just to keep seeing
him handle the ball in late game situations when defenses
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rashed up the pressure, and I want to keep seeing
how camp Thomas responds to that because you know, as
many have pointed out, this is really his first full
year maybe the end of last year as a primary
ball handler in crunch time navigating these situations. A ton
of room for growth there, and he'll keep getting better,
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and I'm just excited to see it. You know, maybe
to night against Cleveland, if the Nets find themselves in
a close game, which they have the last few times
they played Cleveland, with that we will close with everybody's
favorite section of the ball already trivia.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ready, I feel like you've up the difficulty, so we'll try.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
We'll we'll Actually, that's not a great leading for this one,
because I feel like you will know this, right.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Okay, good, you know. I'll take I'll take it. I'll
take a little bit of a softball.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
d'O scored fifteen points in uh in the fourth quarter
against Charlotte, which is the highest scoring fourth quarter from
a net this season. Okay, what is the highest scoring
fourth quarter from a net? All time?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Fourth quarter or quarter?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Fourth quarter? It's actually the same answer for both.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I should know this, but now I want to ask
you if you can give me Is it obvious?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I think it is. It's recent, that's history,
it's Brooklyn history.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, I kind of want to lean towards Joe Johnson,
but that's not it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, man, that's a good that's that's like too smart
of a guest. When he had all those threes against
the Wizards, I believe that's a really good guess. It
was d' angelo Russell and Sacramento come back in the
should in twenty nineteen, when he scored twenty seven points
to a race of twenty five point deficittion Hollis Jefferson with.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That game winner.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So I don't mean to you know, overestimate your abilities,
but I thought you would have.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I feel like I didn't you. You're right, D'Angelo seemed
too obvious to me, and here we are. That's big time. Yeah,
that game was an unforgettable game. I feel like that
some trivia. Yeah, I know, I mean I I am
on the call with Throughcoat tonight and it's still it
always remains. We say, one of, if not our very
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very favorite games. Have re call.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
With that, we will head off to Cleveland. The Nets
play tonight. They have a busy week playing a bunch
of Eastern Conference opponents over the next week. Noah Clowney's back,
D'Angelo Russell's cooking in fourth quarters again, Cam Thomas Trendon
Watford back from hamstring injuries. So everything's coming together for
Brooklyn in this final quarter of this season. We really
thank you guys for listening to the Backcourt. This has
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You are now in the backcourt a Brooklyn Nets podcast
presented by Ticketmaster. I'm Lucas Kaplan, writer for Nets Daily,
also have Nets Film Focus. We have some great stuff
coming for you in that regard some content on the
Nets x's and o's as of late. But also joining me,
of course, is Sarah Kustack. You know her from Yes
Network broadcasts and a bunch of other places. So Sarah,
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how are.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We We're great? We're great. Coming off of a win
here in Cleveland, the Nets snap their seven game losing
street opportunity to potentially snap a streak of the Cabs tonight,
so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yep. That reminds me to tell you we are recording
between a Nets back to back, Sarah making time in
a very busy schedule. As she said, she's out in Cleveland.
The Nets beat the Los Angeles Lakers last night in Brooklyn,
then they flew immediately out to take on the Eastern
Conference's best team. So by the time you're hearing this,
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that game will have been decided. We'll have more fun
stuff to talk about for next week. But as you mentioned,
coming off a win in an electric Barkley Center filled
to the brim, obviously, lots Lakers fans, lots of Nets fans.
It was a really fun time. And so what do
you think the main takeaways from this past week.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Are, Lucas, I think there's a lot to take away
when you look at the week as a whole, and
maybe a handful of situations and areas that the Nets
could have been better, could have improved. You go back
to that loss against San Antonio, obviously, the loss against Charlotte,
and then the opportunity to kind of redeem themselves with
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how they were able to close out the game. And
the big thing that stood out to me was that
second half at Berkley's, a tight game, of which it
was the Nets that got down early in that one.
Unlike the Effer games I mentioned San Antonio Golden State Warriors,
I'm losing. I'm losing track of our days and games
and weeks where you're setting the tone jumping out to
a big lead. Same thing at Charlotte, having a big
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lead and relinquishing it. I think this was a very
different look and it was the Nets who were struggling
with how they're able to convert from the field from
the three point line, and the Lakers hide cooking despite
the fact that they were missing handful of key players,
including Lebron James, our friend Dorian Finney Smith, and I
think overall, you know, the big part of the season
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has been about growth, about experiences, shared experience, and then
how you find a resiliency to learn from those, and
that to me was the sign of growth of Okay,
you're able to not only fight back from a big hole,
hold on to a lead, have a back and forth
finish in a electric barklay center, and find a way
to shut the door. And that was really really impressive
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because they did it on both sides of the floor.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They definitely did it on both sides of the floor.
It was a journey to being able to clean up
the glass. For me this week, it was a journey
to being able to apply pressure against you know, opposing
ball handlers. We've talked about it a lot on this podcast,
trapping near half court, extending the defense, applying pressure. But
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in the first two losses the Nets had this week
against Golden State and against Charlotte, they gave up a
ton of offensive rebounds and second chance points. Now part
of that, obviously, Charlotte especially missed a ton of shots early,
so you have more opportunities to grab, you know, offensive rebounds.
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But finally, you know, against the Lakers, the Nets only
allow eight offensive boards, they grabs sixteen for themselves, all
while forcing fifteen turnovers and only turning it over seven times.
So when you create a possession disparity that big, that's
going to lead to a win. And it's funny. I
thought it was actually good for them to go down early,
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like I felt like, it's almost relaxes you. I don't
know if you have gotten that sense where NBA leads
are hard to keep, so it's just kind of inevitably
right that if you go up double digits in the
first half, it means almost nothing based on how good
everybody is at scoring the ball now. So I almost
felt like being on the other end of that for
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the Nets against LA kind of took the pressure off
them a little bit in a weird way. I don't
know if you felt that last night at the game.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't. I appreciate this opinion, and I'm not disagreeing
with it, but I'm not sure that's I'm not sure
I know what you're saying, though, I'm not sure that's
how I would frame it because I think so often
we the Golden say Warriors game for example, Yeah, I loved,
loved the startpack ber. Yeah, and they always seem to
That's why I'm really excited. I guess, well, the listeners
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will in viewers will see what happens because this will
drop after the Cleveland Cavaliers came earlier in the season. Here,
this is the Cavs were on a I think at
that point a sixteen game maybe, with seventeen maybe, and
it just took them down to what the game plan,
the execution, the focus, the sense of purpose, the energy,
all of that always seems to be at a heightened
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level when they're playing some of the best competition, the
best teams in the league. And I love that. I
love that for this group. I love it for the
coaching staff. And it doesn't matter who's playing or what
the lineup and roster looks like, it feels that way.
And so it felt that way with the Warriors. So
you love that out of the gates, that's the tone
they said. But to your point, in every game, it
always seems like, oh you let go of this lead. Well,
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that is the NBA, and that is runs and at
some point it doesn't matter more often than not what
leads look like with the amount of possessions, with the
pace you're playing at, with three point shooting, all of
that a twenty point lead, it's some juncture for these
type of individuals and the level of talent you can
come back from that deficit. So I don't know if
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the relaxing, but more so just kind of having a
chip on their shoulder and realize that, Okay, these are
the things we need to do against this Lakers group.
And that second half you saw it in the defense
of intensity, the communication, how locked in they were, and
obviously the three point shooting. The Lakers are a team
that want to pack it in the paint unless you
just let it fly, and that has worked well for
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them defensively. But at some juncture a three point shooting
team like Brooklyn you were glad to see. Okay, those
shots now, those quality looks created are starting to go through.
And I think that varied by them attacking the basket,
getting in the mid range players seeing it go through,
and then on the flip side of things, the three
point shots started going through. But the other big number,
and you had mentioned this with the turnovers for the
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nets taking care of the basketball, the nets attacking the
offensive glass. But they created nineteen points off turnovers, and
that type of pressure that they put on Los Angeles,
especially down the stretch, especially the way they made it
so difficult between Lukadancic and Austin Reeves their two primary
scores and go to players and the ones that would
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be the highest usage with the ball in their hands.
They struggled, and I credit the Nets defense for how
difficult they made every look, every catch, showing bodies, multiple players,
different looks, all of those things. I think they should
feel really really happy about, or at least please with
themselves and giving themselves a foundation now to continue to
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build on.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And what was also evident about that Los Angeles went
on Monday is the standard to which Brooklyn's coaching staff
holds these guys to to which the team holds itself.
Because I think it is easy to say, well, we
create a lot of points off turnovers. That's how we
generate our offense. That's what we do, and they did
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it again. As you said, nineteen points off fifteen turnovers
really help them win that game. But it's not just
enough to do that if you're sacrificing maybe interior defense,
if you're sacrificing defensive rebounding, and Cam Johnson admitted postgame,
he said, you know, it is difficult because let's say
you trap at the top of the key or whatever,
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get a four on three. The offense can kind of
play in the middle of the floor. They can crash
hard from the corners, but it really is just about
effort and recovering. And if we do that, we truly
believe that we can create turnovers and pack the paint
and have a strong presence at the rim. And last
night against the Lakers, they shoot just forty percent from two,
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which is sixteen percent below league average. As I said,
the Nets win the glass. So I think Monday night
is really what it looks like when it all comes
together for Brooklyn. It starts up top, but what really
kind of makes or breaks them on defense is the
ability to make those second third efforts getting back to
the rim. We should also mention that since we recorded
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last time, Noah Clowney has returned. He's played three games.
Brooklyn's twenty year old sophomore. He was out for a
long time with a pretty rough looking ankle twist. This
was no normal kind of ankle sprain. But he missed,
including the All Star break. He missed fifteen games, you know,
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plus that extra week of the All Star break, and
he actually led the nets in scoring in his third
game back against LA. What did you see from him?
I know it's you know, three games, still getting his
feet wet, obviously, but general impressions, but to.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That point, still getting his feet wet, but also just
doing so really confidently. And I think, you know, you
look at a player like him in that Los Angeles game,
the importance of whether it was some of the playmaking
he had, the shots he had, and just the confidence
that he seemingly always has when he's on the floor.
Even look at closing out the game and you know
that last possession and his awareness, quart awareness and just
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heads up play. I think there are so many aspects
of his game that you like, and not only like
because of how he's producing now, but the upside of it.
And three point shooting is always something new point to
and he's a player who's showing an ability to not
only take those shots, feel comfortable taking those shots, do
so at a high level of effectiveness, but also just
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his steady the presence of his demeanor and disposition. I
think we're learning that and you know, for a young
player and how he shows up, I think that's something
you could tell that there's things that irritate him or
anger him, or the competitive nature comes out. But I
think overall you see a level of stoic stoicness if
that's if that's the right way to frame it for him,
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that I really value when I think as he gets
more experience, as he grows, as he gets more run
in time on the floor, that's something that's going to
continue to be such a great asset for him and
for this group on both as.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
The floor minor correction for me, Noah. That was his
second game back, even more impressive against Los Angeles he
played first against Charlotte. Another positive that I want to
shout out and I guess now we can you know,
go kind of game by game is You mentioned how
detailed Brooklyn's game plans are and how they really rev
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it up for some of the best players and teams
in the league, and Golden State was a shining exam
of that.
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Speaker 1 (11:34):
What was so I guess off putting to Golden State's
offense and unique about the way Brooklyn attacked them because
I was talking to some people that cover the Golden
State Warriors and like, for example, Warriors enter the ball
to the post to Draymond, they run a lot of
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split actions. You know, he'll kick it out, He'll find
shooters from there. The Nets the side from the beginning
to try to deny Draymond Green those catches. Nick Claxton
guards Draymond. He's fronting the post preventing those catches. And
I was asking my Warriors friends, like, have you seen
a team try to do that? And they said, honestly, no,
not to our memory. We obviously haven't seen teams try
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to double Steph in the backcourt and you know, be
this physical with him off the ball. So something that
stood out to me this week and I posted it
a bunch of times on social media, was just it's
near playoff level game planning. It feels like from Brooklyn's
coaching staff against a lot of these elite players and teams.
And it felt from where I was sitting and you
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were sitting closer than me, just so physical and like intense.
And I know these are kind of buzzwords, but what
were your impressions of just how they came out defensively
against Golden State and really how they have done that
all year against the Thunder and SGA, against Denver and
nikol Jokich, you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You said it, and I appreciate that you said about
the playoff level right game planning, because that's really what
this is for this Brooklyn group of how they're going
to continue to learn. And I wish I wish I
had in front of me and Lucas. I know you
were sitting there at the press or it was I
believe a pregame press conference at home, and maybe it
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was the Golden State Warriors game where it may have
been a question that you asked for. Jordy Fernelle was
talking about with a young group, with a growing group,
you know, three tenets of a defense that you try
to start to implement. Do you remember this?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I'm you keep going, I'm gonna find the quote.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, but he was he was talking about you can't.
He believes you can do them all. But it's almost
like a piece meal of Okay, let's let's start with
this and then build to this, and let's start with
a level of pressure in physicality, and then let's build
to these whether it's switching schemes. And I think a
part of it is you know if you're if you're
gonna and maybe it is the pick and roll defense
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or the switching defense, or you know how you're gonna
play certain styles and what that looks like in the
study build, And to me, that's the long vision growth
in teaching these players. And regardless, I appreciate that part
of this too is these players getting experience just as
pros and as professionals, and whether it's here in Brooklyn
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next season, whether it's a different stop, whether no matter
what it may be, the understanding of how important that
is in the systematic ways in which so many NBA
teams play, because you see that crossover across the board.
And that's what I love, That's what I love about
this coaching staff of understanding. We're gonna we're gonna ask
a lot of you, we're gonna demand a lot of you,
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and we're gonna do this at a very very high level.
And then once we start hitting at this type of
pressure defense, turning turning teams over. You know, however, you're
gonna start playing certain coverages. Okay, now we're gonna add
this layer on because you've you've gotten to a point
where you've handled this, and now we're gonna we're gonna
start switching more. We're gonna communicate this and and to me,
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that goes back to when we're talking about why the
defense has improved over a significant stretch and what it
had done, and maybe there are some dips and some
ebbs and flows to it. It's a part of that
lack of thinking because all of a sudden becomes muscle
memory all but all of a sudden, it becomes instinctual
as opposed to thinking where you're supposed to be or
what I'm supposed to be doing, or the communication of
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players is much more free. And that's what I love
that I think we're seeing in this group, we're seeing
in this team, and that felt evident in that Warriors game.
So back to your original question, Steph was frustrated. Steff
one of the greatest players in the world, and you
could tell there was a level of frustration because of
that physical play, because bodies were getting into them because
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of the amount of pressure. There Upon, atum show into
and just different looks, and I love that. I love
that you're able to continue to see that. It was
very similar with Luka Dancic last night, and he's obviously
a very different player in how you're playing him, but
it was a Okay, make everyone else beat us, because
we're going to make this as challenging as possible for
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you to get the ball where you want to go
and for you to score and you to be highly efficient. Yeah,
Lucas still comes away with a triple double, but it
wasn't a thirty seven fifteen and twelve triple double. You know,
it was a lower level of efficiency and credit to
Gabe Vincent had a night, Jordan Goodwin had a night,
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you know, awesome, and that those are pro players and
that may happen. But I think often the understanding of
this is our game plan. We're going to roll the
dice on that, as opposed to a you know, perennial
All star, future Hall of Famer getting to do whatever
he wants and getting his and getting everyone else.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Theirs Luca twenty two, eleven and twelve on eight of
twenty six with five turnovers. I think you take that
every day of the week. And as you said, Jordan
Goodwin makes his first four threes, Dawn connect gets hot,
Gabe Vincent gets hot. These are all catch and shoot
threes that they really put up numbers on, and at
the end of the game, the ball's not in their hands.
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So you're having guys that are eight of twenty six
or Austin Reeves three or fourteen have to make these
decisions and their numbers would have been even worse. They
hit a couple logo threes to you know, in kind
of desperation time, try to cut into the nets lead
very I'm very happy that you brought up that quote
and to just to brag it was my question.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So I knew it. I knew it. Yeah, go LK.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I think this was the most interesting and kind of
revealing quote from the last week from these press conferences too.
So I asked Jordie about you know, playing thank you,
this is great, this is real reporting right here, Jordi Fernandez, Uh,
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you know runs these very aggressive defenses, traps, playing up
the floor, And so I asked, you know, what kind
of goes into that philosophy, because I feel I, oh,
like you know, for a while in the NBA it
was drop coverage, protect the rim, you know, the Bucks
winning that title in twenty one that way, I think
was really influential. But he asked, you know, I disagree
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that it's such a league wide trend. Quote. If when
you watch the best defenses in the playoffs, the best
defenders pick up full court, they can do everything. So
going back to the best defensive teams in the NBA,
they're able to do one, two, and three. You can
play up the floor, so trapping, hedging, blitzing, you can
play down the floor, packing the paint, drop coverage all that,
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or you can switch. When you're a young team, it's
unfair to ask them to try to do all three things.
You try to do one, and in my opinion, you
try to do what's most aggressive first and then you
evolve to be a team that can switch coverages easily
and still be very good. And I thought that quote
was very illuminating because he's telling us very gracious, very
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thankful to him for you. Obviously you didn't have to
say all that, telling nets fans, this is why I'm
doing this, this is why we play defense this way.
To me, it makes a lot of sense. If they're
going to try to master or really excel in one coverage,
it might be the type of coverage that has these
young guys, these hungry dudes, flying all over the floor
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and creating turnovers. To me, I think it's much more
fun to watch Zia Williams, Keon Johnson, Jalen Wilson, Noah Clowney,
Nick Laxton try to cover as much ground as possible.
It creates energy, and I think for a young team,
creating that energy on defense, to me, seems like a
pretty good way to go. And I appreciate Jordy for
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saying that, and I think that they probably would have
won that Golden State game. The issue was not I
think in the second half how aggressive they were on defense.
I think they kept that up. I think Steph making
a couple threes that ignited some crazy threes that ignited
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the crowd, and this happens in a lot of Golden
State games. Kind of got to them. Some overreactions, maybe
double teaming the perimeter, Draymond Green slips to the basket
for a dunk, and so I think in the first
half for me, it was they lived with Steph and
a couple other guys hitting tough threes, and I think
in the second half they kind of, I don't want
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to say wilted to that pressure, but maybe overreacted and
ended up giving up some open layups. And fast forward
a week later against the Lakers, Lakers shoot forty four
percent from three, forty percent from two. So the nets
never wilted, they never overreacted to Jordan Goodwin, Dalton connect
these guys hitting threes, and so between that and the rebounding,
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this week kind of self contained, felt like a self
contained journey. It felt like they started doing these things
not really excelling at some and then they've kind of
put it all together. So I felt pretty satisfied by
these three games, even though it was just one and two,
especially with Noah coming back, and again like kind of
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an encapsulation of their season almost to me, a very
like fitting week to have in March.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well said, you nailed.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It, so moving on, I feel like Brooklyn's finest. We
can give it to Noah Clowney for coming back playing
two really exciting games. I don't know if there's anyone
else you had in mind that you wanted to shout
out anything like that.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, I mean I would sick with Noah. I just appreciate.
I feel like everyone had some really solid performances in
a lot of different areas and a lot of different
ways despite the loss. I thought D'Angelo Russell was really
good in that Charlotte game and did an excellent job
just kind of orchestrating what the offense was doing and
how he was able to have his fingerprints in a
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lot of different areas, not only getting his points but
facilitating for others. And again credit to like a play
like Zion Williams who did not shoot that well against
the Lakers, but the defensive intensity. I think you can
kind of go down the list of so many players
understand just because my SHOT's not falling or certain aspects
have not worked well, there's other areas that I could
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still impact the game. And I think that's the continued
growing process for this group of realizing that type of
resiliency within the game. And I think we saw that
from a lot of players, and it culminated with that
win against the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yes, and we didn't talk a ton about the Charlotte
game because I felt the Lakers game, a fresher in memory,
be more important story because it's about the bounce back
from the Charlotte game where the Nets did lose a
second athlete. But we would be remiss not to shout
out D'Angelo Russell, who put up twenty eight points, six boards,
and seven assists in that game and scored fifteen in
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the fourth, almost willing the Nets to victory. Zia Williams
also hit four threes and scored nineteen points in that game.
So guys did have solid performances in Charlotte, and a
three point loss soured that a little bit. But coming
back on Monday and getting to win huge and I'll
ask you. I'll start with you, who is your next net,
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you know, finding these next nets this season scene, Who
can be a part of this long term culture team building.
Who are you looking forward to watching hoop this next week.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think we've I think we've kind of went through
everyone in some capacity, but I will circle back. I
know he's our finest and I know that we've talked
about him quite a bit, but it is Noah Clowney.
The fact that he's returned from injury, he's played in
two games. What does it look like now, is he's
back in the line up, healthier, getting extended run. The
things that we're looking for out of him is this
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season continues to kind of come a little bit closer
to the close, the final stretch run of how he's
going to continue to impact this play by Brooklyn. And
we've seen so much upside, so much positive, so many
things to be excited about. But I think this is
a very real opportunity, and especially this week against some
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great team. You know, you look at playing the Calves
here tonight, this will now have already past. But the
Chicago Bulls team that's ahead of you intent place you're
gonna see Boston twice Atlanta like this. This is a
significant stretch to me, this week of compacted games. Then
I'm excited to watch.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, we got a busy week coming up, all those playing,
all those teams. I was excited to see Noah Clowney
try to get to the rim a little bit, try
to do some stuff off the dribble transition. So against
the Lakers, he scores nineteen points on five of eleven,
but three of eight from three and seven free throws,
so he tacked the glass. He had a couple takes
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off the catch. That's obviously the part of his game
that I think is most intriguing. I think we know
that he can really shoot the three, be a strong
catch and shoot guy. We know that he can cover
a lot of ground and be a long, lanky, disruptive
dude on defense. I think that's the last thing, or
not the last thing, but something that every time he
has a nice take or puts the ball on the
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floor really catches my eye. So Noah's a great choice
for next net, not just over the next week, but
really this final quarter of the season that we're approaching.
I would just like to shout out camp Thomas for
next Net. You know, he's had some big scoring games
since he returned because that's what he does. Did not
play in the Lakers game as he's still returning from injury,
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getting ready to play against the Cavs tonight, against the
Laker or against the Hornet. Sorry, he scores sixteen points
seven of eighteen, but he kind of had a better
first half than the second half. I think Charlotte really
up to the defensive pressure on him towards the end
of the game, and I'm curious just to keep seeing
him handle the ball in late game situations when defenses
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rashed up the pressure, and I want to keep seeing
how camp Thomas responds to that because you know, as
many have pointed out, this is really his first full
year maybe the end of last year as a primary
ball handler in crunch time navigating these situations. A ton
of room for growth there, and he'll keep getting better,
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and I'm just excited to see it. You know, maybe
to night against Cleveland, if the Nets find themselves in
a close game, which they have the last few times
they played Cleveland, with that we will close with everybody's
favorite section of the ball already trivia.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ready, I feel like you've up the difficulty, so we'll try.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
We'll we'll Actually, that's not a great leading for this one,
because I feel like you will know this, right.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Okay, good, you know. I'll take I'll take it. I'll
take a little bit of a softball.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
d'O scored fifteen points in uh in the fourth quarter
against Charlotte, which is the highest scoring fourth quarter from
a net this season. Okay, what is the highest scoring
fourth quarter from a net? All time?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Fourth quarter or quarter?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Fourth quarter? It's actually the same answer for both.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I should know this, but now I want to ask
you if you can give me Is it obvious?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I think it is. It's recent, that's history,
it's Brooklyn history.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, I kind of want to lean towards Joe Johnson,
but that's not it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, man, that's a good that's that's like too smart
of a guest. When he had all those threes against
the Wizards, I believe that's a really good guess. It
was d' angelo Russell and Sacramento come back in the
should in twenty nineteen, when he scored twenty seven points
to a race of twenty five point deficittion Hollis Jefferson with.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That game winner.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So I don't mean to you know, overestimate your abilities,
but I thought you would have.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I feel like I didn't you. You're right, D'Angelo seemed
too obvious to me, and here we are. That's big time. Yeah,
that game was an unforgettable game. I feel like that
some trivia. Yeah, I know, I mean I I am
on the call with Throughcoat tonight and it's still it
always remains. We say, one of, if not our very
(28:00):
very favorite games. Have re call.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
With that, we will head off to Cleveland. The Nets
play tonight. They have a busy week playing a bunch
of Eastern Conference opponents over the next week. Noah Clowney's back,
D'Angelo Russell's cooking in fourth quarters again, Cam Thomas Trendon
Watford back from hamstring injuries. So everything's coming together for
Brooklyn in this final quarter of this season. We really
thank you guys for listening to the Backcourt. This has
(28:24):
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