June 25, 2021 • 37 mins
Episode 148 - "The Culture Deserves It" Feat. Ferrari Simmons & Su Solo Produced by: @iHandlebars
with special guest: Ceaser of Black Ink
Topics: working with Mary J. Blige, Notorious B.I.G. & more.
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":The Culture Deserves It"
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:25):
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Bawler Alert Show starting for Ry Simmons and Sue Solo. Yes, sir,
(00:47):
welcome to the Fall Alert Show podcast. I go by
the day with pit cifics and it's your best friend.
Sue Solo, Welcome to the Ball Show Podcast. You ready
to get into it? That's good in case you missed it. Alright,
chall So if you believe that racism is taught, then
I would agree. A nine year old Caucasian shall had
(01:08):
a few words for her school board after seeing Black
Lives Matters posters on campus. Listen to this little child.
I looked up onto the wall and saw a BLM
poster and an Amanda Gorman poster. And least you don't
know who that chick is. She's some girl who did
a poem that Biden so called inauguration. I was so mad.
(01:29):
Does not matter the color you make the posters and
the font you use, we all understand the meaning. It
is a political message about getting rid of police officers rioting,
burning buildings down while King Governor Walts just sits on
his throne and watches Yo, the micro water. Listen, the
(01:49):
micro aggression in her voice is absolutely little girl, you
know who that chick is? Okay, Now, the fact that
she is so mad and so sure she even knows
what the Black Lives Matter movement is actually about really
tells us a lot about her upbringing. And I'm just
gonna say this because I really don't care. It's sad, Okay,
(02:10):
it is sad. Your mama and your daddy is sad,
all right. Now, moving on. I interviewed Rapper to See
not too long ago, and you know what, he was
as cool as hell. He seemed to have his head
on straight. And like me, he's a bit of a
conspiracy theorist. But I did not see this one coming. Y'all.
Listen to what he said about pop Eyes. Why after
(02:30):
the Popeye's chicken said, which came out A pandemic was
a thing. That will tell me did the world not
go in a hole? What's Popeye? Alright? Boom, We're gonna
kill Papa's all right. It's a lot of black folks
that I actually never had it, and that's probably why
I never got the covids. I mean, Tucy might be right.
(02:52):
I had a young gripper from here. Okay, now, so listen.
At this point, it really is just whatever you believe
about the global pandemic, because everybody just saying whatever you
want to say. All right, that is what's new with Sue.
In case you missed it, We'll be right back. Stay
tuned with more of the Baller Alert Show. Back to
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the Baller Alert Show start. Ferrori Simmons and Sue Solo
Faller Nation joined us in welcoming and American producer who
was a known hit man. Amongst the hit man that
helped make music Moogo Shaan Kom's bad Boy Records of Vibe,
A man who's behind some of our favorite classics behind
the notorious B I. G. Faith Evans, V. Mary J.
(03:36):
Blige and more, Ball the Nations. Snap your fingers or
clap your hands for Chucky Man. Let's dope to be here.
Appreciate it. How you feeling today's sir? And I'm good
man anticipating this when you know what I'm saying. Ball
Alert is like one of my favorite spots, you know
what I mean. So, Chucky, you've been in the game
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since the nineties, the early nineties at that you have
a crazy resume. What are some of the classics that
people may know you for and don't know that you
had anything to do with them. I mean one of
the biggest ones would be Big Cooper, you know what
I mean? Um, and then My Life you know that one. Um,
(04:20):
But then a lot of people don't realize I did one,
Mike so Nas you know, Wow, that's one of the
biggest songs ever. Yeah, but I mean, you know it's
you know, I've always been a little key with it,
you know what I mean. Um, So it's you know,
it's partly my fault that people don't know these things.
But I mean they know the records, and you know
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these records have been a part of of hip hop
and pop culture. So you know, I just feel good
about that that that my contributions have helped, you know,
push this thing along, you know. All right, So so
paint the picture for me. It's the nineties. You know,
you're talented, you know your how the help to become
(05:02):
a hitman at that um well, you know, it was
a mutual friend that that kind of pushed the situation
with me and Puff, And you know, at that time,
I was just submitting songs and one of those songs
was the one song that Mary liked, which was to
be with You record. So you know I heard at
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that time she was just picking a bunch of songs
and nothing really attracted her, but that one song came
in and was like, yo, I want to do this.
So that's when Puff really said, you know what, let
me get ready. We we decided on a management agreement,
so you know, he was my manager. But then you
know a lot of the work that I was getting
was worked to help him solidify himself as a producer.
(05:44):
So we kind of made that pack that you know,
we're helping each other, you know, and you know, that's
pretty much how the story started. I was really the
first one. Uh you know son he was working with
a couple of producers at that time. You know, EASYMBI
was in a situation. Um Rashard tumming on Dice was
in the situation. But you know, I was the first
(06:06):
one that was kind of signed under management. So you know,
when I got there, it was just like okay, I
got this DC thing, this hospitality thing, and I played
like eight different instruments, so I started going around the
different sessions and just contribute, you know. But that was
also getting me on projects. So when you hear the
guitars on Ready to Die, that's me with easy Mobile,
(06:30):
you know what I'm saying. So, like, you know, it
started from there pretty much. Wait wait wait, wait, let
me interrupt. Let me interjet because this sounds really good
and it sounds like you have been making a lot
of money. So I want to ask you what was
the biggest first check that you got and how much
was it and what the hell did you do with it?
(06:51):
Go with that, man, I mean, it was when I
signed my publishing agreement, you know what I mean, when
I signed with Sony and um, you know at that time,
you know, step over the mouth, don't skip over the
mouth truck. It was it was, it was, you know,
my first million dollars came from Badward. You know that
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that was you know, our agreement, like Puff felt that
strongly about the union that you know at that time
for me to be a new producer coming in the game,
and you know, that was my contract. And then from
there it was the publishing Tony Publishing, which I just
re read did my agreement with Big John over there?
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So shout out the Big John and all of the
people over that, Sony, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
I gotta kicked in, you know what I mean. And
the crazy thing is a million dollars then was was
a little more than a million dollars. Now, yeah, real
real talk, real talk. But you know it's like I said,
a lot of it had to do with that that
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that trust, you know what I mean, because you don't
just signing people and giving them that type of a
situation if you don't think that it's going to work
out or think that you know, you're capable of making
it happen with them. So I still got to get
a puffle out of credit for just seeing, you know,
seeing seeing something to me that I probably didn't even
seeing myself at that time because you know, I'm coming
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from d C. You know, he was in the game.
I'm trying to get there, you know, and that was
just the startup. So that was a dope to me,
like one of the dopest stars, you know, to get
it kicked in. Yeah. I can't imagine it could have gotten, honestly,
any bigger than that at that time, especially being in
black culture because he was he was the man, he
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was real talk. I mean, you know, I was just
I was lucky, you know to have had uh, somebody
because did anything about it. At that time, it was
no Internet. It was really no way to get to
people other than for you to actually meet them and
then you have to actually you know, meet them in
(09:02):
a way where they want to even deal with you.
You know what I'm saying. It was a weird time,
but I was lucky enough to have somebody there to
kind of like, you know, at least have a bridge
into it. Um and it got that song placed and
you know the rest of the rest kicked it in.
That was it. That was history, you know, Chuck, Chuck,
(09:22):
I got a question. I know you have a Biggie
story that you can tell us, because you know, I
grew up listening to bigg He never met him. I
was a kid when he passed away. Um. You know,
so I kind of was. I kind of came in.
I mean, he had a short career anyway. But at
the same time, you know, I kind of didn't realize
or understand why he died, you know, because I was
a kid. Um. I know you have a story to
(09:44):
tell us about you in the studio with Biggie or
come on, man, give us some Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
let's let's let's let's talk about I almost didn't make. Um,
I almost didn't make Life after Death. Um. At that
particular time for me, I was work and on my artists.
I had an artist signed the Effort. It's a guy
named Frankie. And I was just trying to devote my time,
(10:06):
you know, watching Pump and seeing how much Heed to
vote at his time in the building this company. I
wanted to put that same energy into mine, you know.
And at that time I was just focused on that,
and I had went into the studio. I think I
went to Daddy's house to grab something and Big was
in the other room. He sent somebody in there to
talk to me, like you're big one. The haul is
(10:27):
shoot and say okay, So I go in there. This
is right after the accident, sees he got the cane
and all that. So I walked in. He's like, yo,
what's up man, You ain't doing nothing on my album,
like he was closing out the Life After Death album.
So I was like, no, I even like that. He said,
come on you. I was like, first off, you got
one of the biggest records on my last album, so
(10:48):
it's gonna look real funny that you don't have nothing
on this. So I'm about to take offense if you don't.
You know, if you don't jump on this record, we
might have me issues. So I you know, he's that
real that he pulled me up, you know what I mean.
So I said, cool, let me let me finally sit
with Puff and kind of here what what was happening?
(11:08):
And he played me a bunch of records and he
played Storytell and if you go online, it's an original
version of it um and they couldn't clear that sample.
So I was like, okay, so that's my end, I
was saying. So I was I'll replay this sample. And
get us through the door. So I basically it was
it was a night of the Grammys. I'm in the
studio with a big boats I on, you know what
(11:30):
I mean, like just finishing it up because they're closing
it out. If it doesn't happen tonight, it's not gonna happen.
So I finished that up. And you know the sad
part is I never really got to talk to Big
to see how he felt about it, you know, but
I know it made the record, so um you know,
all of that stuff kicked in like like right after
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you know, um man that story to tell kid flow down.
Remember that's one, Remember that one? So chucky. At the time,
did you know that you were working with not only
classic music, but classic artists? I mean, yeah, It's like
(12:13):
it's funny with me because I get personal with people,
you know. When you know Big and and we used
to hang out all the time, you know what I mean.
I remember him having issues with Safe. You know what
I'm saying, I'm coming to be like dope, I want
to fix my marriage Joe, And I'm like, come on, man,
you out here and how are home coming? Going nuts?
(12:34):
And you're tik about fixing your marriage. Come on church,
you know what I'm saying. So going nuts? Like how
I mean, he was big. You've seen what it was
he you know he was a gym or not. I
mean big was I mean he got married because he
loved her, but he was big because he was big.
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So it was just you know, he was that player.
He had that in them, you know what I mean.
And and and that's was the thing that broke them up.
You know what I'm saying, that that's the part that
that killed it. But you know, I'm I'm hearing all
of these stories and I'm catching the vibe. So, like
I said, I was around, I was around people in
different lights. You know. USh it was only what seventeen
(13:16):
and something crazy, you know, But he was in the house,
you know what I mean. Mary, you would hang with
her and we're having so much fun. And then she
get on the microphone and then we realized, Wait, aut
job was hanging with Mary. You know what I'm saying.
Like I didn't realize it until I realized it. But
you could feel the part about them just being real people.
(13:36):
You know, if you if we don't know nothing else
about these artists, we liked them because of that you know,
and that's really what it was. Just being around family.
You know, puff created this energy where it was just
like young black up and coming like the next That's
all that was around. Is everybody that was a Craig
mac over here, like everybody around was on their up.
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So it was it was a blessing to come into
a situation like that. Because it's question we all got
that vibe. Okay, question, if you had to give us
your top five and you know we have a lot
of listeners on the Ball the Show podcast, if you
had to give it us your top five of the
records that you had something to do with or do
(14:20):
you have a top five? Or is this is gonna
be hard for you to say. I mean it's you
know what, it probably won't be what most people would
think would be my top five. You know what, Let's
brag a little bit. Let's brag. Come on, give us,
give us, give us a list, give us about ten
records you have something to do with Bonnie and Sean,
with Sean, you know, can't you see what total Dey're wrong?
(14:42):
Would be one of my favorite records. Like I said,
I got records that people probably wouldn't recognize that they
need to go back and here it's a song called
rest of My Life with nas and the final one
would be Another one that most people don't understand is
Chuck Baby. I produced the record with Chuck Brown Soul
searches down here in d C. And um, you know
(15:03):
it's like a d C classes, you know. But I'm
super proud of that record. That's like total total record
was a big record. Yeah, man, I mean shot off
to Rashard Tumblin Dice he you know, it was like
a synergy around us, like it was walking the room
and just started working. So Rashard had something going. I
(15:23):
came in and added some pieces. You know. Puff put
the cherry on top of as Big to get on it.
I think he paid them five thousand longs to know
what I'm saying. But Big was a hustler, so he
snatched it. It, did it and done. You know what
I mean was family. So it was a lot of
a lot of good love back then. So Mary J.
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Blige is in the spotlight right now. Heavy you know
she She's always in a spotlight to me. But as
of right now, my life celebrates the anniversary this year
the Mary J. Blige My Life documentary is actually out
on Amazon pime um. How is think that the fans
(16:05):
are going to react to this documentary and what does
it mean to you to actually be a part of
it to some degree, I think the fans are gonna
love it because it goes back to what I was saying, like,
she's a real one, you know she She's a super
real one, and this story shows you behind the curtain.
You know, we already see this Wizard of Odd story,
you know what I'm saying, And what's out in front
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is one thing. You go behind that curtain, it ain't pretty,
you know what I'm saying. To keep up that that
look of what's out front. But she was, she was
so dope that she just said, you know what, that's
the best way for me to to to be able
to connect with the people is to just be as
real as possible, you know what I'm saying. And with
the crazy part about it was real painful for her
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after the success of the record, because you think about it,
You're going through a situation that's probably the lowest point
in your life, and that was being broadcasts all over
you know what I'm saying, and you gotta get on stage,
you gotta single for four and these these songs are painful.
So you know, I give a lot of credit to
her to be able to, you know, just expose herself
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like that. You know what I'm talking. I'm talking about
some ugly truths in it, and this documentary it just
you know, it packages it up. It packages it up
for everybody that loves her to really understand, you know,
all that goes on with her, you know what I'm saying,
just from just being married, you know. Um And and
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I'm I'm proud of it. I really like how it
came out, you know. I like the fact that this record,
I mean, for a time that we were just I
don't know, it's like being a somebody that builds houses
and you're just making sure to screws in the right place,
and you know what I mean, and then you just
step away, you off to the next house. But then
for people to come back and just look at the
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house and admire and just see the art in the
work that we put in, you know what I mean,
It is incredible. Twenty five years of of of a
situation that took four months. That record was done in
four months, So it's like, you know, I'm I'm I'm
overwhelmed with I don't even know how to put this
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right now. So I'm just happy and I want everybody
to just check it out, you know, and look at
it from a couple of different angles. You know that
there was a lot of it was a lot of love.
It's like when you look at the Motown story and
you think about all that love that went into making
those records. Puff took a page right out of that book,
and that's what we were doing. It was just it
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was a lot of God around, you know, it had
to be for that record to turn out that way
and still be relevant, you know. So I'm happy it
is absolutely still relevant. I mean, I think it's I
think that that's kind of what makes a classical classic,
is that new generations to come can still relate to
the music and still feel it. I'm just happy they
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let me be the canvas. You know, when when when
you're an artists, if you don't have a good canvas,
your paint not gonna stick right, you know what I mean,
something he's gonna be right. So that's just the part
that I feel like I played with that, Like, you know,
the master Chef, you know what I mean. But they
were they were the you know, they weren't agreed. They
just let me season and you know, let me do
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my thing, and that kind of trust, you know, is
important because I was brand new, you know. She she
had a list of producers from the previous project, but
they all came in kind of you know, we just
sold three million that I that, you know what I mean,
that she just she's real. She's like, you know what,
I'm liking what this is doing. So if she asked,
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puff would it be cool if we did the whole project,
It's I was only contracted to do one song, you
know what I'm saying, So it just flipped the whole script.
Likes Joe, she wants to do the whole album. Mean
what we were doing. They never met the talk about
with that. So that's how fast it happened. But I
mean because of that synergy of everybody just being around
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each other. It's like, that's what made it happen as
fast as as it did and as dope as it did.
Like every day that raised was supposed to be on
My Life album. I don't know if you remember that song.
It was on the show soundtrack. It's a song called
every Day, and that was actually supposed to be on
the My Life album, but I think because the time
of them made of the double album, so then they
(20:28):
were like, you know, and then also Who Shot You
was an interlude on My Life album. People don't know that,
like Pluff went and got big off the street. It's
a Friday night, you know what I'm saying. So he
comes in, he shoots that that line, that rhyme. I mean,
he said something even crazier than that, Like he said,
(20:51):
he said some crazy stuff, and it was so crazy
that they were gonna they were gonna have to put
the uh, the parental sticker on her album if they
would have kept his version. So that's why they switched
it up and got Keith Murray because Bigg's verse was
so gangster. But look at the time frame. Everybody's trying
to think that he made Who Shot You behind that situation,
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but look at the time frame that was before that
was before that was ninety four. It was like summer
ninety four that he wrote that. We will be right
back with more of The Baller Alert Show. You're listening
to a special edition of The Baller Alert Show. Mary
Serai Simmons and Sue so Long. This is special cloth alert.
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Now I wanted I wanted to shift gears a little
bit um and we're talking very professionally. How is this
taken off? How is this success that you've had in
your lifetime taking a toll on you personally? I mean,
it's to me, it's all one and the same. Like
I don't I'm not a I'm not a famed cat,
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you know what I mean. So I'm all about the work.
I always try to let the work speak for ourselves,
and that keeps me in a real space. You know
that I'm I'm I'm I'm approachable. You know. I try
to look at every situation is as real as it is,
or you know what I'm saying, trying to get the
reality of each situation. So I don't, I don't know.
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It's no separation to me. I try not to do
that because you you know, you start to create these
different levels and all that does and sometimes it will
bring you down. So I stay low to the ground,
I stay right connected to because the streets dictate everything.
This is That's how I always feel about it. If
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they don't move in the streets it's not gonna move.
It's like the foundation. So I stay connected to that
type of life, like I focus on real people like
in my music, you know what I mean, not the guy,
not the guy in the suits, in the in the
offices and this and that, they're gonna like it if
the people in the streets like so always and that
was always be in puffs uh um connection to He
(23:03):
stayed in the quasions. I loved him for that. But
I always stayed in the street so he could always
look across the room and know the perspective I'm coming
from is to make sure that the everyday person respects
what we're doing. And thank you for that, because you know,
we talked about mental health a lot on our show,
and I like, I like that you said that, you
know you you stayed real grounded, because I think a
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lot of people don't realize that when you stay grounded
and you keep you here low um, that helps your
mental state of mind as well. So you know what,
I was lucky enough to be crowned. You know, I
gotta give give a lot of things to the people
that that that were around that raised me. I came
up in a term where you know, you're doing stuff
in the street, You're gonna get checked. You know. We
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used to bust bottles in the in the alley, just
busting bottles like food, and somebody came and checked that.
You know what I'm saying, And that that that type
of community, that type of you know, that type of
energy around you is going to push you to you know,
try to succeed, because it's more to life than just
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you know, doing doing reckless stuff, you know what I mean.
And I'm at the point right now I reach out
to these youngest I try to talk to him because
they need, you know, they need to see that there's
no difference. You know a lot of people feel like
you're old or you're young. Nah, even you fly or
you're not. It's not even a really old or young
(24:28):
to it. You know what I'm saying. Uh, Douggie Fresh
is still one of the dopest people that I know.
It's not about what record he put out, you know
what I'm saying. He can staying get drop him in
the middle of the street with nothing and see what happens.
He'll rock the whole you know what I'm saying. So
it's never really about an age thing. It's just about
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what you know, how you know, how, what's your codes?
How how you working? You know what? What? What are
the things that matter? And a lot of people don't
really have those those codes. So it's it's it's almost
if you meet somebody, you talk to him, you just
just talk about life. Just get on a life page
and see what's happened. You know. I'm down for that.
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So I wanted to ask you if Mary J. Blige
does a versus battle one, who do you think could
go up against her? And too? What would be the
first song that she should start with? Oh? Man, who
do I think will go up against her in a
versus battle? I know everybody off the top of sake faith,
(25:33):
you know what I'm saying, just because of that, the
time frames and things like that. Um, But uh, with her,
I mean I'm all the way up there with Anita
Baker and all of that. Like for me, with her,
it's it's different things, you know, um, because she has
(25:55):
the soul about her, She has this like hood about her,
you know, and and all of these things come from
that place of just being in you know, being in
the hood and hearing these songs like those were those
were medicine. What I'm saying that that Anita Baker's songs
just record that ship was medicine. It's almost the same
(26:16):
as the medicine with my life out. So I would
I would, you know, I know that seems crazy to
say that, but I would probably go with that. I
would go with with Anita Baker with her Now, it's
not crazy. I actually think you are giving um an
opinion based off of some ship that you really know. Okay,
(26:36):
it's not crazy at all. Are the phone calls going
crazy now? With this documentary coming out and like the
resurface of one of the men who are responsible for
its success. I mean, yeah, it's it's it's it's like up,
you know, a little bit more than normal, but you know,
it's it's a lot of this. It's a lot of
the same people though, you know, it's a lot of
(26:57):
people that's been you know and know having me in
their prayers and things like that. So it's just been
a lot of reassurance that you know, uh, you know,
I was a part of something that I helped create,
something that's like, you know, a soundtrack for all of us,
you know, and and and it's here forever. I mean,
we just survived. You know, I put that in the
(27:19):
classic box with you know, the Oasy Brothers and and
you know, certain situations like that. So I'm ecstatic things
are happening, you know, just from that level. But you know,
I have, UM, I have some things that that are
in the works too, you know, that are about to
get ready to surface. Because one thing that most people
don't realize is the fact that I am from d C,
(27:41):
and d C has uh music in that town, you know,
is go Go music. The crazy part about it is
a lot of people don't realize how much Go Go
has played a part and pushing hip hop you know,
UM and and and just pop culture in general. You know,
when you look at Beyonce is one of her biggest
(28:03):
records was done by Rich Harrison, who I'm gonna tell
you off the top and his brain was thinking go
Go when he made that record. And it's that pocket
in that field. So I have a documentary coming out.
It's called Chuckie Thompson Presents DC Go Go, and it
basically breaks down, you know a lot of people don't
(28:24):
understand the music. They don't understand even what it takes
to make Go Go. Then it's also a big movement
behind it, you know, where it's the official music of
the city. And then also a lot of people in
the city they either deem it that Go Go has
been on or that it's a mainstay, like it's just
for the city. It's probably one of the only places
(28:46):
that you can go and see a true art form
still in its truest art form. And I just you know,
I took it as a mission. It's not the Go
Go story. It's my story with Go Go. People don't
even realize that my life. The song I was mimicking
a Go Go band in d C. I I played
that Royer's record like a Go Go band with Clay,
(29:07):
you know what I'm saying. So it's it's behind a
lot of the records that I've made. So you know,
with that being said, it's like everything is uh is happening,
and I think it's happening for a reason, you know.
Definitely for Mary, I really wanted uh. I want to
give a stupid shout out to her man because it's
(29:27):
it's it's just incredible that, you know, for a situation
that she was sad about, you know, and it turned
into all of this to realize how many other people
related to that sadness, you know, and the fact that
I was able to play a part in that, you know,
is amazing. So I appreciate all the phone calls right now.
(29:49):
I'm loving it. I love it, and we absolutely appreciate
you for coming to the Ball of our show podcast
before we let you go, Before we let you go,
we have to have you as a part of our
father mail segments. Go for it all, right, here we go.
I'm gonna read it, dear Rory. My wife is terrible
(30:11):
with money. I have to hide money from her all
the time. I love her with all my heart, but
from managing money to managing credit, she's hella irresponsible. How
do I speak with How do I speak to her
in a way that won't hurt her feelings? Chuck, you
have to go first. I mean, in a situation like that,
you gotta be real. It's money, you know what I'm saying.
(30:32):
I don't think that that's the situation you should play with.
And I'm not saying you should scream and go nuts
when you're talking about it. But you also have to
understand where she may be coming from. You know, you
have to see the root of the problem. Why why
is she acting this way? What is it about money
that makes her? Actors? Right? And you deal with that,
you know, you try to figure out, Okay, you know what,
(30:55):
maybe you can't have this, but maybe we give you this,
and then after this, you know, you just have to manage.
But that that story rains and every household. You know,
I'm saying everybody has to deal with money, but it's
just you know, how real are you with it? Because
the one lesson that I learned is the money always
gets spent. You know, I don't give if you get
(31:17):
a check for forty million dollars, the money's gonna get spent.
The question is is what have you done? You know,
what's the plan? What's the situation? So I would just
say they just need to sit down and just, you know,
be real and then map out a plan. But be
real with the plan. You know, understand where she's at,
why she moves like that, you know, and trying to
(31:40):
try to meet the middle. I love because the reality
is some of us never had no money. So when
you get to a place where you have a little bit,
you don't know what to do with it, you know,
So I love Chucky's approach. Talk to or see what
the rule of the problem is, because she might not
be spending it just because she wants to. She may
(32:00):
just not know how to do any better. So I
definitely agree with R. That's it. You know, she might
be feeling like, you know, money is a band aid
for something, you know what I'm saying. So you just
gotta literally really gotta get into that problem. But what
is it that's doing this, Like, why are you doing this?
You know a lot of people don't tag me in.
(32:21):
Somebody tagged me in. Man, you know I'm a little
I'm a little rente game chop. This is to the dude,
Oh man, get your goddamn feelings out of or why
are you worried about how she feels? Bro her little
as down down and keep it to her raw and
funky so it stank when you talk to her. Bro
stop acting like, oh, I don't want to hurt her spinnings.
(32:43):
If you got damn goddamn, if you shed just spend
the rent money, this is a problem. She's a problem
if both. If your credit is good or her credit
is not good, this is a problem. Okay, by the
credit need to be on point when you sit down,
has thrill goals? Have a list. I am married to
an accountant. She saved my life, Chuck. When I met her,
(33:04):
I had a five ninety five. Chup. Now I'm sitting
next to you and I got a seven credits for
seven five for I say that ship with confidence. All
I'm saying is, she sat me down, and she wrote
down and we figured out the root of the problems.
So Chuck, you all right, we gotta figure out the
root of the problem. But dude, we are your balls,
(33:27):
that bro. I gotta speak to her in a way
that they don't hurt hut all that. When you do
stuff like that, you hurt your films. You know what
I'm saying. It's like, at the end of the day,
it's a team, you know. I always looked at it
like that. Some of the some of the dopest hustlers
that I've ever met. I'm talking about the Eights. Some
(33:50):
of their rules to the organization was if a guy
is not a person that uses his brain, I'm not
enforcing to use his brain. Like, if you're a person
to use your hand, I'm gonna give you that job.
So if you're not the person to manage the money
that that's not your job. Give it to the person
that manages the money. And then guess what. Now you
(34:11):
can live your life. You will have everything you want
and guess what days are gonna be taken care of?
And we're teams. You know that's a good aass point
because sometimes people expect you to be a professional is
something that you don't know it about. So identify the
weaknesses the strengths, and rely on that person for where
they're strong and and support them where they're not. And
(34:33):
but you got there at some point that everybody has
to be real because you might not want to hear
that fact that that's all you need to do is that.
But if you're if you love somebody enough, you know
that that you are in that union that where you're
dealing with money somewhere, and then you know it should
be it should be just you know, second nature that
appreciate you. Thank you now, this is a super dogbity
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got you hYP got my man hype for two second,
admitted he was with a chucky Please tell bother nation
where they can find you, how they can keep up
with all of your current successes. Future successes as successes
where does ball the nation find you? Okay, so right
now you can definitely find me on my Instagram, which
(35:18):
is at chuck like three sixty five. Let me say
that again. At Chuck Like three sixty five, I post
some wow. It's funny, but it's all about life. It's
always real. Just come hang out with me. Also, my
Twitter is CHUCKI Thompson and my Facebook is CHUCKI. Thompson.
So come on all that Chucky Thompson, come come on
(35:39):
fall in line. Yea, welcome on us whenever you are
in Atlanta. Pleasure man. We we had a ball today.
Thank you so much for joining us on. I appreciate,
I appreciate. So so you got any shots before we
can go, because you know what I'm about to say,
So you go ahead and go first. Well first, I
(36:00):
mean shout out to my mom's man. Shout out to
Charlotte Jay Thompson man. And that's my mother and my
sister's Christal and callers. Um. You know my son's Quincy
and Trede, who are also producers. You know the name
of their group is Negative Minds. They're about to get
ready like the scene up. Trust me when I tell
(36:20):
you I didn't even know they were focusing on production
until I heard the records, Like they are amazing. They
do it different than I do it, but they do
it for what's happening right now, and they'll make their
mix between my hip hop and theirs. I didn't know
they were listening to the call that time. So shout
out to my family, man, and uh, you know that's
(36:41):
pretty much it. Man. Love out to the people of Tidy,
which is the northern region of Ethiopia, and I want
to give a big shout out to a really trying
to bring an end to the table eye genocide. People
that are speaking about it, repeat, reposting, retweeting, reaching out
to local government. I appreciate you guys were standing for Tickaday.
(37:04):
Whether you are Ethiopian, eritre and Molly's American, if you
stand on the right side of humanity, this shout out
is to you. Oh and my shoutout is to the
Atlanta Hawks. Okay, hey, New York Nick fans. We told
y'all we beat y'all last. Philadelphia set the ships for fans.
We told y'all we beat y'all ast and hopefully now
(37:26):
we told everybody that's said we was gonna get swept,
and it was gonna be bucks in five when we
beat y'all, and then one trade t L Hawks and
seven Hawks going to the finals. And then when we
get to the finals, Hawks and six chuck. You heard
it first from me. Hey man, I'm with you, Joe.
(37:48):
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Are we in? Sup sup a soup a sup wor
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Bawler Alert Show starting for Ry Simmons and Sue Solo. Yes, sir,
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welcome to the Fall Alert Show podcast. I go by
the day with pit cifics and it's your best friend.
Sue Solo, Welcome to the Ball Show Podcast. You ready
to get into it? That's good in case you missed it. Alright,
chall So if you believe that racism is taught, then
I would agree. A nine year old Caucasian shall had
(01:08):
a few words for her school board after seeing Black
Lives Matters posters on campus. Listen to this little child.
I looked up onto the wall and saw a BLM
poster and an Amanda Gorman poster. And least you don't
know who that chick is. She's some girl who did
a poem that Biden so called inauguration. I was so mad.
(01:29):
Does not matter the color you make the posters and
the font you use, we all understand the meaning. It
is a political message about getting rid of police officers rioting,
burning buildings down while King Governor Walts just sits on
his throne and watches Yo, the micro water. Listen, the
(01:49):
micro aggression in her voice is absolutely little girl, you
know who that chick is? Okay, Now, the fact that
she is so mad and so sure she even knows
what the Black Lives Matter movement is actually about really
tells us a lot about her upbringing. And I'm just
gonna say this because I really don't care. It's sad, Okay,
(02:10):
it is sad. Your mama and your daddy is sad,
all right. Now, moving on. I interviewed Rapper to See
not too long ago, and you know what, he was
as cool as hell. He seemed to have his head
on straight. And like me, he's a bit of a
conspiracy theorist. But I did not see this one coming. Y'all.
Listen to what he said about pop Eyes. Why after
(02:30):
the Popeye's chicken said, which came out A pandemic was
a thing. That will tell me did the world not
go in a hole? What's Popeye? Alright? Boom, We're gonna
kill Papa's all right. It's a lot of black folks
that I actually never had it, and that's probably why
I never got the covids. I mean, Tucy might be right.
(02:52):
I had a young gripper from here. Okay, now, so listen.
At this point, it really is just whatever you believe
about the global pandemic, because everybody just saying whatever you
want to say. All right, that is what's new with Sue.
In case you missed it, We'll be right back. Stay
tuned with more of the Baller Alert Show. Back to
(03:13):
the Baller Alert Show start. Ferrori Simmons and Sue Solo
Faller Nation joined us in welcoming and American producer who
was a known hit man. Amongst the hit man that
helped make music Moogo Shaan Kom's bad Boy Records of Vibe,
A man who's behind some of our favorite classics behind
the notorious B I. G. Faith Evans, V. Mary J.
(03:36):
Blige and more, Ball the Nations. Snap your fingers or
clap your hands for Chucky Man. Let's dope to be here.
Appreciate it. How you feeling today's sir? And I'm good
man anticipating this when you know what I'm saying. Ball
Alert is like one of my favorite spots, you know
what I mean. So, Chucky, you've been in the game
(03:57):
since the nineties, the early nineties at that you have
a crazy resume. What are some of the classics that
people may know you for and don't know that you
had anything to do with them. I mean one of
the biggest ones would be Big Cooper, you know what
I mean? Um, and then My Life you know that one. Um,
(04:20):
But then a lot of people don't realize I did one,
Mike so Nas you know, Wow, that's one of the
biggest songs ever. Yeah, but I mean, you know it's
you know, I've always been a little key with it,
you know what I mean. Um, So it's you know,
it's partly my fault that people don't know these things.
But I mean they know the records, and you know
(04:41):
these records have been a part of of hip hop
and pop culture. So you know, I just feel good
about that that that my contributions have helped, you know,
push this thing along, you know. All right, So so
paint the picture for me. It's the nineties. You know,
you're talented, you know your how the help to become
(05:02):
a hitman at that um well, you know, it was
a mutual friend that that kind of pushed the situation
with me and Puff, And you know, at that time,
I was just submitting songs and one of those songs
was the one song that Mary liked, which was to
be with You record. So you know I heard at
(05:23):
that time she was just picking a bunch of songs
and nothing really attracted her, but that one song came
in and was like, yo, I want to do this.
So that's when Puff really said, you know what, let
me get ready. We we decided on a management agreement,
so you know, he was my manager. But then you
know a lot of the work that I was getting
was worked to help him solidify himself as a producer.
(05:44):
So we kind of made that pack that you know,
we're helping each other, you know, and you know, that's
pretty much how the story started. I was really the
first one. Uh you know son he was working with
a couple of producers at that time. You know, EASYMBI
was in a situation. Um Rashard tumming on Dice was
in the situation. But you know, I was the first
(06:06):
one that was kind of signed under management. So you know,
when I got there, it was just like okay, I
got this DC thing, this hospitality thing, and I played
like eight different instruments, so I started going around the
different sessions and just contribute, you know. But that was
also getting me on projects. So when you hear the
guitars on Ready to Die, that's me with easy Mobile,
(06:30):
you know what I'm saying. So, like, you know, it
started from there pretty much. Wait wait wait, wait, let
me interrupt. Let me interjet because this sounds really good
and it sounds like you have been making a lot
of money. So I want to ask you what was
the biggest first check that you got and how much
was it and what the hell did you do with it?
(06:51):
Go with that, man, I mean, it was when I
signed my publishing agreement, you know what I mean, when
I signed with Sony and um, you know at that time,
you know, step over the mouth, don't skip over the
mouth truck. It was it was, it was, you know,
my first million dollars came from Badward. You know that
(07:14):
that was you know, our agreement, like Puff felt that
strongly about the union that you know at that time
for me to be a new producer coming in the game,
and you know, that was my contract. And then from
there it was the publishing Tony Publishing, which I just
re read did my agreement with Big John over there?
(07:35):
So shout out the Big John and all of the
people over that, Sony, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
I gotta kicked in, you know what I mean. And
the crazy thing is a million dollars then was was
a little more than a million dollars. Now, yeah, real
real talk, real talk. But you know it's like I said,
a lot of it had to do with that that
(07:57):
that trust, you know what I mean, because you don't
just signing people and giving them that type of a
situation if you don't think that it's going to work
out or think that you know, you're capable of making
it happen with them. So I still got to get
a puffle out of credit for just seeing, you know,
seeing seeing something to me that I probably didn't even
seeing myself at that time because you know, I'm coming
(08:19):
from d C. You know, he was in the game.
I'm trying to get there, you know, and that was
just the startup. So that was a dope to me,
like one of the dopest stars, you know, to get
it kicked in. Yeah. I can't imagine it could have gotten, honestly,
any bigger than that at that time, especially being in
black culture because he was he was the man, he
(08:41):
was real talk. I mean, you know, I was just
I was lucky, you know to have had uh, somebody
because did anything about it. At that time, it was
no Internet. It was really no way to get to
people other than for you to actually meet them and
then you have to actually you know, meet them in
(09:02):
a way where they want to even deal with you.
You know what I'm saying. It was a weird time,
but I was lucky enough to have somebody there to
kind of like, you know, at least have a bridge
into it. Um and it got that song placed and
you know the rest of the rest kicked it in.
That was it. That was history, you know, Chuck, Chuck,
(09:22):
I got a question. I know you have a Biggie
story that you can tell us, because you know, I
grew up listening to bigg He never met him. I
was a kid when he passed away. Um. You know,
so I kind of was. I kind of came in.
I mean, he had a short career anyway. But at
the same time, you know, I kind of didn't realize
or understand why he died, you know, because I was
a kid. Um. I know you have a story to
(09:44):
tell us about you in the studio with Biggie or
come on, man, give us some Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
let's let's let's let's talk about I almost didn't make. Um,
I almost didn't make Life after Death. Um. At that
particular time for me, I was work and on my artists.
I had an artist signed the Effort. It's a guy
named Frankie. And I was just trying to devote my time,
(10:06):
you know, watching Pump and seeing how much Heed to
vote at his time in the building this company. I
wanted to put that same energy into mine, you know.
And at that time I was just focused on that,
and I had went into the studio. I think I
went to Daddy's house to grab something and Big was
in the other room. He sent somebody in there to
talk to me, like you're big one. The haul is
(10:27):
shoot and say okay, So I go in there. This
is right after the accident, sees he got the cane
and all that. So I walked in. He's like, yo,
what's up man, You ain't doing nothing on my album,
like he was closing out the Life After Death album.
So I was like, no, I even like that. He said,
come on you. I was like, first off, you got
one of the biggest records on my last album, so
(10:48):
it's gonna look real funny that you don't have nothing
on this. So I'm about to take offense if you don't.
You know, if you don't jump on this record, we
might have me issues. So I you know, he's that
real that he pulled me up, you know what I mean.
So I said, cool, let me let me finally sit
with Puff and kind of here what what was happening?
(11:08):
And he played me a bunch of records and he
played Storytell and if you go online, it's an original
version of it um and they couldn't clear that sample.
So I was like, okay, so that's my end, I
was saying. So I was I'll replay this sample. And
get us through the door. So I basically it was
it was a night of the Grammys. I'm in the
studio with a big boats I on, you know what
(11:30):
I mean, like just finishing it up because they're closing
it out. If it doesn't happen tonight, it's not gonna happen.
So I finished that up. And you know the sad
part is I never really got to talk to Big
to see how he felt about it, you know, but
I know it made the record, so um you know,
all of that stuff kicked in like like right after
(11:51):
you know, um man that story to tell kid flow down.
Remember that's one, Remember that one? So chucky. At the time,
did you know that you were working with not only
classic music, but classic artists? I mean, yeah, It's like
(12:13):
it's funny with me because I get personal with people,
you know. When you know Big and and we used
to hang out all the time, you know what I mean.
I remember him having issues with Safe. You know what
I'm saying, I'm coming to be like dope, I want
to fix my marriage Joe, And I'm like, come on, man,
you out here and how are home coming? Going nuts?
(12:34):
And you're tik about fixing your marriage. Come on church,
you know what I'm saying. So going nuts? Like how
I mean, he was big. You've seen what it was
he you know he was a gym or not. I
mean big was I mean he got married because he
loved her, but he was big because he was big.
(12:54):
So it was just you know, he was that player.
He had that in them, you know what I mean.
And and and that's was the thing that broke them up.
You know what I'm saying, that that's the part that
that killed it. But you know, I'm I'm hearing all
of these stories and I'm catching the vibe. So, like
I said, I was around, I was around people in
different lights. You know. USh it was only what seventeen
(13:16):
and something crazy, you know, But he was in the house,
you know what I mean. Mary, you would hang with
her and we're having so much fun. And then she
get on the microphone and then we realized, Wait, aut
job was hanging with Mary. You know what I'm saying.
Like I didn't realize it until I realized it. But
you could feel the part about them just being real people.
(13:36):
You know, if you if we don't know nothing else
about these artists, we liked them because of that you know,
and that's really what it was. Just being around family.
You know, puff created this energy where it was just
like young black up and coming like the next That's
all that was around. Is everybody that was a Craig
mac over here, like everybody around was on their up.
(13:59):
So it was it was a blessing to come into
a situation like that. Because it's question we all got
that vibe. Okay, question, if you had to give us
your top five and you know we have a lot
of listeners on the Ball the Show podcast, if you
had to give it us your top five of the
records that you had something to do with or do
(14:20):
you have a top five? Or is this is gonna
be hard for you to say. I mean it's you
know what, it probably won't be what most people would
think would be my top five. You know what, Let's
brag a little bit. Let's brag. Come on, give us,
give us, give us a list, give us about ten
records you have something to do with Bonnie and Sean,
with Sean, you know, can't you see what total Dey're wrong?
(14:42):
Would be one of my favorite records. Like I said,
I got records that people probably wouldn't recognize that they
need to go back and here it's a song called
rest of My Life with nas and the final one
would be Another one that most people don't understand is
Chuck Baby. I produced the record with Chuck Brown Soul
searches down here in d C. And um, you know
(15:03):
it's like a d C classes, you know. But I'm
super proud of that record. That's like total total record
was a big record. Yeah, man, I mean shot off
to Rashard Tumblin Dice he you know, it was like
a synergy around us, like it was walking the room
and just started working. So Rashard had something going. I
(15:23):
came in and added some pieces. You know. Puff put
the cherry on top of as Big to get on it.
I think he paid them five thousand longs to know
what I'm saying. But Big was a hustler, so he
snatched it. It, did it and done. You know what
I mean was family. So it was a lot of
a lot of good love back then. So Mary J.
(15:43):
Blige is in the spotlight right now. Heavy you know
she She's always in a spotlight to me. But as
of right now, my life celebrates the anniversary this year
the Mary J. Blige My Life documentary is actually out
on Amazon pime um. How is think that the fans
(16:05):
are going to react to this documentary and what does
it mean to you to actually be a part of
it to some degree, I think the fans are gonna
love it because it goes back to what I was saying, like,
she's a real one, you know she She's a super
real one, and this story shows you behind the curtain.
You know, we already see this Wizard of Odd story,
you know what I'm saying, And what's out in front
(16:27):
is one thing. You go behind that curtain, it ain't pretty,
you know what I'm saying. To keep up that that
look of what's out front. But she was, she was
so dope that she just said, you know what, that's
the best way for me to to to be able
to connect with the people is to just be as
real as possible, you know what I'm saying. And with
the crazy part about it was real painful for her
(16:50):
after the success of the record, because you think about it,
You're going through a situation that's probably the lowest point
in your life, and that was being broadcasts all over
you know what I'm saying, and you gotta get on stage,
you gotta single for four and these these songs are painful.
So you know, I give a lot of credit to
her to be able to, you know, just expose herself
(17:13):
like that. You know what I'm talking. I'm talking about
some ugly truths in it, and this documentary it just
you know, it packages it up. It packages it up
for everybody that loves her to really understand, you know,
all that goes on with her, you know what I'm saying,
just from just being married, you know. Um And and
(17:34):
I'm I'm proud of it. I really like how it
came out, you know. I like the fact that this record,
I mean, for a time that we were just I
don't know, it's like being a somebody that builds houses
and you're just making sure to screws in the right place,
and you know what I mean, and then you just
step away, you off to the next house. But then
for people to come back and just look at the
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house and admire and just see the art in the
work that we put in, you know what I mean,
It is incredible. Twenty five years of of of a
situation that took four months. That record was done in
four months, So it's like, you know, I'm I'm I'm
overwhelmed with I don't even know how to put this
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right now. So I'm just happy and I want everybody
to just check it out, you know, and look at
it from a couple of different angles. You know that
there was a lot of it was a lot of love.
It's like when you look at the Motown story and
you think about all that love that went into making
those records. Puff took a page right out of that book,
and that's what we were doing. It was just it
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was a lot of God around, you know, it had
to be for that record to turn out that way
and still be relevant, you know. So I'm happy it
is absolutely still relevant. I mean, I think it's I
think that that's kind of what makes a classical classic,
is that new generations to come can still relate to
the music and still feel it. I'm just happy they
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let me be the canvas. You know, when when when
you're an artists, if you don't have a good canvas,
your paint not gonna stick right, you know what I mean,
something he's gonna be right. So that's just the part
that I feel like I played with that, Like, you know,
the master Chef, you know what I mean. But they
were they were the you know, they weren't agreed. They
just let me season and you know, let me do
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my thing, and that kind of trust, you know, is
important because I was brand new, you know. She she
had a list of producers from the previous project, but
they all came in kind of you know, we just
sold three million that I that, you know what I mean,
that she just she's real. She's like, you know what,
I'm liking what this is doing. So if she asked,
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puff would it be cool if we did the whole project,
It's I was only contracted to do one song, you
know what I'm saying, So it just flipped the whole script.
Likes Joe, she wants to do the whole album. Mean
what we were doing. They never met the talk about
with that. So that's how fast it happened. But I
mean because of that synergy of everybody just being around
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each other. It's like, that's what made it happen as
fast as as it did and as dope as it did.
Like every day that raised was supposed to be on
My Life album. I don't know if you remember that song.
It was on the show soundtrack. It's a song called
every Day, and that was actually supposed to be on
the My Life album, but I think because the time
of them made of the double album, so then they
(20:28):
were like, you know, and then also Who Shot You
was an interlude on My Life album. People don't know that,
like Pluff went and got big off the street. It's
a Friday night, you know what I'm saying. So he
comes in, he shoots that that line, that rhyme. I mean,
he said something even crazier than that, Like he said,
(20:51):
he said some crazy stuff, and it was so crazy
that they were gonna they were gonna have to put
the uh, the parental sticker on her album if they
would have kept his version. So that's why they switched
it up and got Keith Murray because Bigg's verse was
so gangster. But look at the time frame. Everybody's trying
to think that he made Who Shot You behind that situation,
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but look at the time frame that was before that
was before that was ninety four. It was like summer
ninety four that he wrote that. We will be right
back with more of The Baller Alert Show. You're listening
to a special edition of The Baller Alert Show. Mary
Serai Simmons and Sue so Long. This is special cloth alert.
(21:38):
Now I wanted I wanted to shift gears a little
bit um and we're talking very professionally. How is this
taken off? How is this success that you've had in
your lifetime taking a toll on you personally? I mean,
it's to me, it's all one and the same. Like
I don't I'm not a I'm not a famed cat,
(21:58):
you know what I mean. So I'm all about the work.
I always try to let the work speak for ourselves,
and that keeps me in a real space. You know
that I'm I'm I'm I'm approachable. You know. I try
to look at every situation is as real as it is,
or you know what I'm saying, trying to get the
reality of each situation. So I don't, I don't know.
(22:20):
It's no separation to me. I try not to do
that because you you know, you start to create these
different levels and all that does and sometimes it will
bring you down. So I stay low to the ground,
I stay right connected to because the streets dictate everything.
This is That's how I always feel about it. If
(22:40):
they don't move in the streets it's not gonna move.
It's like the foundation. So I stay connected to that
type of life, like I focus on real people like
in my music, you know what I mean, not the guy,
not the guy in the suits, in the in the
offices and this and that, they're gonna like it if
the people in the streets like so always and that
was always be in puffs uh um connection to He
(23:03):
stayed in the quasions. I loved him for that. But
I always stayed in the street so he could always
look across the room and know the perspective I'm coming
from is to make sure that the everyday person respects
what we're doing. And thank you for that, because you know,
we talked about mental health a lot on our show,
and I like, I like that you said that, you
know you you stayed real grounded, because I think a
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lot of people don't realize that when you stay grounded
and you keep you here low um, that helps your
mental state of mind as well. So you know what,
I was lucky enough to be crowned. You know, I
gotta give give a lot of things to the people
that that that were around that raised me. I came
up in a term where you know, you're doing stuff
in the street, You're gonna get checked. You know. We
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used to bust bottles in the in the alley, just
busting bottles like food, and somebody came and checked that.
You know what I'm saying, And that that that type
of community, that type of you know, that type of
energy around you is going to push you to you know,
try to succeed, because it's more to life than just
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you know, doing doing reckless stuff, you know what I mean.
And I'm at the point right now I reach out
to these youngest I try to talk to him because
they need, you know, they need to see that there's
no difference. You know a lot of people feel like
you're old or you're young. Nah, even you fly or
you're not. It's not even a really old or young
(24:28):
to it. You know what I'm saying. Uh, Douggie Fresh
is still one of the dopest people that I know.
It's not about what record he put out, you know
what I'm saying. He can staying get drop him in
the middle of the street with nothing and see what happens.
He'll rock the whole you know what I'm saying. So
it's never really about an age thing. It's just about
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what you know, how you know, how, what's your codes?
How how you working? You know what? What? What are
the things that matter? And a lot of people don't
really have those those codes. So it's it's it's almost
if you meet somebody, you talk to him, you just
just talk about life. Just get on a life page
and see what's happened. You know. I'm down for that.
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So I wanted to ask you if Mary J. Blige
does a versus battle one, who do you think could
go up against her? And too? What would be the
first song that she should start with? Oh? Man, who
do I think will go up against her in a
versus battle? I know everybody off the top of sake faith,
(25:33):
you know what I'm saying, just because of that, the
time frames and things like that. Um, But uh, with her,
I mean I'm all the way up there with Anita
Baker and all of that. Like for me, with her,
it's it's different things, you know, um, because she has
(25:55):
the soul about her, She has this like hood about her,
you know, and and all of these things come from
that place of just being in you know, being in
the hood and hearing these songs like those were those
were medicine. What I'm saying that that Anita Baker's songs
just record that ship was medicine. It's almost the same
(26:16):
as the medicine with my life out. So I would
I would, you know, I know that seems crazy to
say that, but I would probably go with that. I
would go with with Anita Baker with her Now, it's
not crazy. I actually think you are giving um an
opinion based off of some ship that you really know. Okay,
(26:36):
it's not crazy at all. Are the phone calls going
crazy now? With this documentary coming out and like the
resurface of one of the men who are responsible for
its success. I mean, yeah, it's it's it's it's like up,
you know, a little bit more than normal, but you know,
it's it's a lot of this. It's a lot of
the same people though, you know, it's a lot of
(26:57):
people that's been you know and know having me in
their prayers and things like that. So it's just been
a lot of reassurance that you know, uh, you know,
I was a part of something that I helped create,
something that's like, you know, a soundtrack for all of us,
you know, and and and it's here forever. I mean,
we just survived. You know, I put that in the
(27:19):
classic box with you know, the Oasy Brothers and and
you know, certain situations like that. So I'm ecstatic things
are happening, you know, just from that level. But you know,
I have, UM, I have some things that that are
in the works too, you know, that are about to
get ready to surface. Because one thing that most people
don't realize is the fact that I am from d C,
(27:41):
and d C has uh music in that town, you know,
is go Go music. The crazy part about it is
a lot of people don't realize how much Go Go
has played a part and pushing hip hop you know,
UM and and and just pop culture in general. You know,
when you look at Beyonce is one of her biggest
(28:03):
records was done by Rich Harrison, who I'm gonna tell
you off the top and his brain was thinking go
Go when he made that record. And it's that pocket
in that field. So I have a documentary coming out.
It's called Chuckie Thompson Presents DC Go Go, and it
basically breaks down, you know a lot of people don't
(28:24):
understand the music. They don't understand even what it takes
to make Go Go. Then it's also a big movement
behind it, you know, where it's the official music of
the city. And then also a lot of people in
the city they either deem it that Go Go has
been on or that it's a mainstay, like it's just
for the city. It's probably one of the only places
(28:46):
that you can go and see a true art form
still in its truest art form. And I just you know,
I took it as a mission. It's not the Go
Go story. It's my story with Go Go. People don't
even realize that my life. The song I was mimicking
a Go Go band in d C. I I played
that Royer's record like a Go Go band with Clay,
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you know what I'm saying. So it's it's behind a
lot of the records that I've made. So you know,
with that being said, it's like everything is uh is happening,
and I think it's happening for a reason, you know.
Definitely for Mary, I really wanted uh. I want to
give a stupid shout out to her man because it's
(29:27):
it's it's just incredible that, you know, for a situation
that she was sad about, you know, and it turned
into all of this to realize how many other people
related to that sadness, you know, and the fact that
I was able to play a part in that, you know,
is amazing. So I appreciate all the phone calls right now.
(29:49):
I'm loving it. I love it, and we absolutely appreciate
you for coming to the Ball of our show podcast
before we let you go, Before we let you go,
we have to have you as a part of our
father mail segments. Go for it all, right, here we go.
I'm gonna read it, dear Rory. My wife is terrible
(30:11):
with money. I have to hide money from her all
the time. I love her with all my heart, but
from managing money to managing credit, she's hella irresponsible. How
do I speak with How do I speak to her
in a way that won't hurt her feelings? Chuck, you
have to go first. I mean, in a situation like that,
you gotta be real. It's money, you know what I'm saying.
(30:32):
I don't think that that's the situation you should play with.
And I'm not saying you should scream and go nuts
when you're talking about it. But you also have to
understand where she may be coming from. You know, you
have to see the root of the problem. Why why
is she acting this way? What is it about money
that makes her? Actors? Right? And you deal with that,
you know, you try to figure out, Okay, you know what,
(30:55):
maybe you can't have this, but maybe we give you this,
and then after this, you know, you just have to manage.
But that that story rains and every household. You know,
I'm saying everybody has to deal with money, but it's
just you know, how real are you with it? Because
the one lesson that I learned is the money always
gets spent. You know, I don't give if you get
(31:17):
a check for forty million dollars, the money's gonna get spent.
The question is is what have you done? You know,
what's the plan? What's the situation? So I would just
say they just need to sit down and just, you know,
be real and then map out a plan. But be
real with the plan. You know, understand where she's at,
why she moves like that, you know, and trying to
(31:40):
try to meet the middle. I love because the reality
is some of us never had no money. So when
you get to a place where you have a little bit,
you don't know what to do with it, you know,
So I love Chucky's approach. Talk to or see what
the rule of the problem is, because she might not
be spending it just because she wants to. She may
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just not know how to do any better. So I
definitely agree with R. That's it. You know, she might
be feeling like, you know, money is a band aid
for something, you know what I'm saying. So you just
gotta literally really gotta get into that problem. But what
is it that's doing this, Like, why are you doing this?
You know a lot of people don't tag me in.
(32:21):
Somebody tagged me in. Man, you know I'm a little
I'm a little rente game chop. This is to the dude,
Oh man, get your goddamn feelings out of or why
are you worried about how she feels? Bro her little
as down down and keep it to her raw and
funky so it stank when you talk to her. Bro
stop acting like, oh, I don't want to hurt her spinnings.
(32:43):
If you got damn goddamn, if you shed just spend
the rent money, this is a problem. She's a problem
if both. If your credit is good or her credit
is not good, this is a problem. Okay, by the
credit need to be on point when you sit down,
has thrill goals? Have a list. I am married to
an accountant. She saved my life, Chuck. When I met her,
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I had a five ninety five. Chup. Now I'm sitting
next to you and I got a seven credits for
seven five for I say that ship with confidence. All
I'm saying is, she sat me down, and she wrote
down and we figured out the root of the problems.
So Chuck, you all right, we gotta figure out the
root of the problem. But dude, we are your balls,
(33:27):
that bro. I gotta speak to her in a way
that they don't hurt hut all that. When you do
stuff like that, you hurt your films. You know what
I'm saying. It's like, at the end of the day,
it's a team, you know. I always looked at it
like that. Some of the some of the dopest hustlers
that I've ever met. I'm talking about the Eights. Some
(33:50):
of their rules to the organization was if a guy
is not a person that uses his brain, I'm not
enforcing to use his brain. Like, if you're a person
to use your hand, I'm gonna give you that job.
So if you're not the person to manage the money
that that's not your job. Give it to the person
that manages the money. And then guess what. Now you
(34:11):
can live your life. You will have everything you want
and guess what days are gonna be taken care of?
And we're teams. You know that's a good aass point
because sometimes people expect you to be a professional is
something that you don't know it about. So identify the
weaknesses the strengths, and rely on that person for where
they're strong and and support them where they're not. And
(34:33):
but you got there at some point that everybody has
to be real because you might not want to hear
that fact that that's all you need to do is that.
But if you're if you love somebody enough, you know
that that you are in that union that where you're
dealing with money somewhere, and then you know it should
be it should be just you know, second nature that
appreciate you. Thank you now, this is a super dogbity
(34:56):
got you hYP got my man hype for two second,
admitted he was with a chucky Please tell bother nation
where they can find you, how they can keep up
with all of your current successes. Future successes as successes
where does ball the nation find you? Okay, so right
now you can definitely find me on my Instagram, which
(35:18):
is at chuck like three sixty five. Let me say
that again. At Chuck Like three sixty five, I post
some wow. It's funny, but it's all about life. It's
always real. Just come hang out with me. Also, my
Twitter is CHUCKI Thompson and my Facebook is CHUCKI. Thompson.
So come on all that Chucky Thompson, come come on
(35:39):
fall in line. Yea, welcome on us whenever you are
in Atlanta. Pleasure man. We we had a ball today.
Thank you so much for joining us on. I appreciate,
I appreciate. So so you got any shots before we
can go, because you know what I'm about to say,
So you go ahead and go first. Well first, I
(36:00):
mean shout out to my mom's man. Shout out to
Charlotte Jay Thompson man. And that's my mother and my
sister's Christal and callers. Um. You know my son's Quincy
and Trede, who are also producers. You know the name
of their group is Negative Minds. They're about to get
ready like the scene up. Trust me when I tell
(36:20):
you I didn't even know they were focusing on production
until I heard the records, Like they are amazing. They
do it different than I do it, but they do
it for what's happening right now, and they'll make their
mix between my hip hop and theirs. I didn't know
they were listening to the call that time. So shout
out to my family, man, and uh, you know that's
(36:41):
pretty much it. Man. Love out to the people of Tidy,
which is the northern region of Ethiopia, and I want
to give a big shout out to a really trying
to bring an end to the table eye genocide. People
that are speaking about it, repeat, reposting, retweeting, reaching out
to local government. I appreciate you guys were standing for Tickaday.
(37:04):
Whether you are Ethiopian, eritre and Molly's American, if you
stand on the right side of humanity, this shout out
is to you. Oh and my shoutout is to the
Atlanta Hawks. Okay, hey, New York Nick fans. We told
y'all we beat y'all last. Philadelphia set the ships for fans.
We told y'all we beat y'all ast and hopefully now
(37:26):
we told everybody that's said we was gonna get swept,
and it was gonna be bucks in five when we
beat y'all, and then one trade t L Hawks and
seven Hawks going to the finals. And then when we
get to the finals, Hawks and six chuck. You heard
it first from me. Hey man, I'm with you, Joe.
(37:48):
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