September 18, 2023 • 31 mins
Episode 275 - "The Baller Alert Show" Feat: Ferrari Simmons & You Know BT Produced by: Octavia March
Special Guest: Isaac Hayes III Founder & CEO of Fanbase
Topics include: Segregation on the Clubhouse App, Investing into Fanbase, Owning Your Content & More.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Borrow with me here, you know, BT, it's just so
low shot of O C T. Color what we see,
whole game, rid of Butler be something. Oh, you can't
stand on their own. See I already know you can't
bother with me because I brought up with.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The squad of me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
They get a little bit called Melo.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Bathera Bler Welcome to the bar B Blert Show podcast
O C T.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Whatep.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's what you know is the case?
Speaker 5 (00:29):
The third is here?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Whatever the studio that we broadcast out of every single
show we got joining us one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We see you every day. But you haven't been on
the show people, it's been a minute. It's been almost
a year. But it's been great, man.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I mean there's been a lot of changes.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah. Man, you guys have really brought a lot of
energy to the office.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I love it. A lot of a lot of dope
people come through. I hear so much. You know, good things.
A lot of a lot of viral moments have come
out of this office in the last probably almost a year.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know you like this my stay at my shit. No,
I just like it.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
No, it looks good though. It's like the waited y'all
really have given us a vibe and I think, I mean,
that's what the office is for Ushoe content. So it's
been incredible. I love it looks great.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Now you've been all in the media.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
Man, what's your Clubhouse got going on?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Clubhouse? Clubhouse kind of came at me. Man.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
They they changed the way that they they the app works,
and a lot of users started leaving and coming to
fan base. It started about this time last week, like Thursday,
like a week ago. It started about a week ago
and we just noticed its up chicking users and over
the weekend we had probably got thirty forty fifty thousand
(01:44):
new users, like quick though, like really fast. We've had
steady growth, but it's gone out of nowhere. So I
go on the app, you know, talk a little bit,
have a little conversation and Grant Cardon for the people
that know Grant Cardons real estate mogul. He you know,
he leaves his message where he does, like it was
a single message that he doesn't like Clubhouse, and I
just shot him a little message like yo, you need
(02:06):
to come on over the fan base and check it out.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And so come to death Row.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Yeah, right, So the head of community at a clubhouse.
This dude named Joe kind of hopped in the feed
and expressed his disdain from me, saying that that that
that grant needs to come to fan base. And I
think that that pissed a lot of people off because
the clubhouse themselves promote Clubhouse on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Yeah, because he was kind of trying to say that
the way that you, as a CEO is marketing your app,
which is fan base on their platform, is kind of
like distasteful.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Here's the thing that makes that funny. Clubhouse is value
of four million dollars. They raised three hundred million dollars.
In comparison to us we have we're about value to
eighty five million dollars and I raised about nine point
five million dollars. But why do you care? I'm I'm
a fly to you guys like you're letting me know
(03:02):
that you're bothered. You understand what I'm saying if you
really and you really pressed about it, and if you
got to like if you if an employee of the company,
the head of community is mad that I'm saying something like, oh,
come and check out another app. If you don't like it,
then y'all are y'all will worried. So you got I
think today's scared. And you know one thing about it.
I love your clop back. Oh yeah, I tend to
(03:24):
well it's not that I see, but I don't. I
leave people alone and then somebody messes with me. Then
you know, I respond. But you know, I mean the
people have the people have.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Chosen, and that's going to say.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Obviously, this has definitely helped you because a lot of
their users went to you.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
We had like over forty k new.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Users, right, yeah, forty thousand. It's more than that. Like
I said, we're almost at half a million users for
fan base, which is a big milestone.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But it was like all over the world.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
It was like India, Moga, d Shoe, Stockholm, Sweden, London, Bangkok, Thailand,
like you know, Canada, Like we see these places all
over the world and they're starting to move their communities
over to fan base, which is causing massive views of growth.
I'm closing this last rank, this last round of funding
for the campaign on start Engine, so we're almost air
(04:15):
right about three point eight million dollars and we're stopping
at five million. So it's been like dope, it's been
like Okay, let's lock this up. So this is the
best week, I'll say you right now, this is the
best week that fan Base has had as a company
since I've launched the company.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, people are pulling up.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
And real quickly. I know, we just delve into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But can you tell people who don't know what fan
base is exactly what that is?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, So fan Base is is my version of social
media for the future. I think that subscriptions are about
to take over the world. Fan Base is designed with
six media verticals to post, so it's free to download,
free to use, it doesn't cost anything, and you can
post content behind the paywall or not and half subscribe
(05:00):
from either two dollars or ninety nine cents a month
to ninety nine ninety nine a month. And it's a
black founding. And the reason why that's important is because
most of these startups make they're billions of dollars off
of our community. Right are we are the gasoline to
the engine, like we are never the We are never
the vehicle, right, We're always what powers the vehicle. And
(05:23):
so when that happens, there's no you know, the money
doesn't go to these young kids and make all these
cool dances and the constannots of the world, and all
these people like they're getting paid.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Some of them are, but most of them are.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
So for every const and not, there's probably fifty thousand
that aren't, but they're still contributing content, making this company
worth multi billions of dollars. And so the design of
fan Base was to number one, let anybody on the planet,
no matter what race, age, you are, whatever where you
are on the planet, you can be yourself. We don't
suppressure content, and you can make money. And so I
just wanted to you know, if you're not this is
(05:56):
the thing about disruption, if you're not pissing people off,
not doing it right, that's what you're supposed to come
to the party and ruin it for everybody. You're supposed
to come in there, like I'm supposed to ruin it
for clubs. As a competitor. It's but see, I don't
think fan Base is a competitor at the clubhouse. I'm
thinking I don't think fan Base is a competitor to
any social media platform because number one, I think all
(06:17):
these apps have a lifespan. They're going to live and
they're going to die. I don't think there's any immortal
social media platform. I think there's one, but I'm not
gonna say. But like my Space is dead, Facebook's a
singing citizen, right, Instagrams and Middle Asia a doult Snapchat,
some millennial TikTok and centennial I be. I built fan
Base to be the successor platform. So they're more in
competition with me than I am with them because I'm
(06:37):
over here doing subscriptions. I'm letting everybody get their content
scene I'm not. I'm letting everybody be themselves. I'm not
shadow banding people all that kind of stuff. So I
just want people to have fun, especially young people to
to you know, make money, and apps need to be fun,
and we haven't. We're having fun over on fan Base.
That's the thing is fun, it's new. And then and
(06:57):
then allowing people to invest. You got to think about
these companies, like think about like I said, I'll use
Clubhouse as an example. You're a four billion dollar company.
You raised three hundred million dollars. What percentage or what
part of the users of that platform actually own a
piece of the company. Probably next to nothing, Yeah, probably nobody.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
And what I noticed about Clubhouse too, is that like
our culture built Clubhouse absolutely, and you know, when it
was sold at a billion dollars, I didn't see anybody,
you know, like yourself a mesia state, like all these
people that was drawing me in, you know at the
time to even be a part of an app like that,
(07:36):
and I was like, they don't support you know, our culture, like.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And the irony in that is there was not an audio.
There was no audio on fan Base, fan maatesees didn't
have audio. Well, the reason why I built audio into
fan Base is because the first million users on Clubhouse
asked to invest and they said no. Then they ran
out and raised one hundred million dollars at a billion
dollar evaluation. So I said, we're going to build audio
because I was already at already raised three million dollars.
So I said, the next round, I do. I just
(08:01):
let people invest who wanted to own part of Clubhouse.
Now they can own part of this version of audio,
so that it's monetized for people to have that. So again,
if you're not pissing people off, I think, you know,
disruption is the name of the game. And they showed
their hand, they really, you know, showed their hand at
their little upset, but I think that's just a part
of this growth though. I think the team has been
(08:22):
working extremely hard. We got a bunch of new functionality coming.
We're closing this round. If you got I'm not gonna
put you on the spot. But if you guys aren't
fan based investors, you should be fan based investors. Let
me tell you why. Because we've had the best week
we ever had. The minimum to invest in the company
is two hundred and forty five dollars, right, That's like
I say, people buy shoes. I see people go, you know,
(08:43):
getting drinks at the club, have a good Saturday night.
Imagine that, and then you spend the same amount of
money on shares and fan base in eight years from now,
you're like, wait, that company that I spent and were public.
Wait my two hundred and forty five dollars is worth
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, Like, oh Apple, Like
that's what.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's why.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That's the opportunity that I'm giving people on why I
think it's so important because we all can we all
control the ability to make the platform valuable by using it.
I'm gonna get baller alert on fan base and audio rooms.
You guys should pull up on the audio rooms now
because they get a little spicy. Okay, we're down, they're down.
They're a little they're a little spicy. But it's a
great way to build like real time audio. Like my version,
(09:24):
my version, my vision of audio is different from what
these other platforms are doing. But it's truly entertaining. I mean,
our rooms are getting mastered to there. They're crashing the app.
Then we got to wake up at three I've been
up to three o'clock in the morning every day this
week because it's like literally the app will be like glitching,
and then we got to wake up and fix it.
And I gotta go like host rooms, and people are saying,
you know, a whole group of people want to move
(09:46):
over from from club.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All because you're getting so much traffic. Yeah, it's it's
forcing us to grow, it's forcing us to be better.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That's good. That's a good thing. Crashing app is good.
That's why I say, crash our app. Keep doing it
because it makes us better. We have to fix the
app to make it dope. I just did a We
just did the first ever in the history ever academic
partnership within HBCU and a social media platform like academically
so with CAU so I was down at CU yesterday.
Fan Base is going to be taught as a class
(10:15):
at Clark Atlanta University. So tons of things about marketing,
emerging technology, you know, building an audience, all these things.
You know, these kids that are really really interested, and
so they were excited. I showed them the app. I
got to show them the whole app. They got excited
about three things. The first thing they got excited about
was making money because I went live and made like
(10:36):
fifty dollars in like five minutes, and they were like, Okay,
that's crazy. Second thing was you can move your content
from Instagram over to fan Base and it stays on Instagram,
but you just migrated over, so it just ships it over.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You can do that on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
And the third thing that they got excited about, which
I was really surprised, that they wanted to invest. And
I was like, you should invest because you guys are
the ones that are going to benefit this two hundred
and forty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I know college kids don't have a lot of money,
but some of them do and have the ability, and
it's a better investment than I'm gonna go, you know,
run out and this weekend and hang out with my
friends spend two hundred forty five dollars on some things
that I'm never going to get back there that are
not tangible. So that was the best part about that.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
So we'll be right back, but more of a baller
Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of the
baller Alert Show.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (11:25):
This is Isaac Hay's the third founder and CEO fan Base,
and you're tuned into the baller Alert Show.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know, you've been building this app for a while,
just like you said, as a black app, and like
you said, just getting up at three o'clock.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
In the morning.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
As it's growing, it's crashing and you have to you know,
fix it and things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Can you kind of like take us into what that's like.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah, well, I mean I have an amazing team. My
CTO Ramiro and the team are incredible. They build the
best product ever. Like I said that nothing speaks better.
I can never speak for fan Base better than the
app itself. Could you just download it, you use it,
you see for yourself. What's going on. It's been fun
because I'm a newbie to the space. This is the
(12:08):
first time I've ever tried to build an app. I
think that's a I think that's a blessing though, because
I do not have a blueprint, so therefore I do
not follow any rules that anyone told me to do.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I don't. I haven't been to Silicon Valley one time.
I have it. No, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
No, because listen, my friends, a lot of my friends
that are in this space follow the rules and they
got burnt.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They got bad.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Business deals, they got kicked out of their companies, they
got screwed over by investors and stuff like that. And
so me, coming from the music business, I understand that
nothing is more shady than the music business. So tech
it is like chech is like it is nothing, text nothing.
I'm ready, I got thick skin. You know, you're getting
judged as a producer whether your beats are hot or not,
or whether you can make it as a producer your
whole life. So I'm like, I don't. I'm not tripping
(12:51):
about none of that. So not going to.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The VCS, like VCS were like, oh.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Why would you want to be why would you want
to go against Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook like they're giants, and.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Those are the people that give they give me money.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
So venture capitals, so are the ones actually fund these startups.
And what's crazy is if you've been seeing what's going
on with Arion Simone and Fearless Fun where they're trying
to sue because of affirmative action. They're trying to block
her because her fund is is dedicated towards women of
color right specifically to fund their businesses. And so I
forget that asshole's name the guy, but he's trying to
sue her because of the Supreme Court decision to make
(13:28):
it illegal for her to give that money, like it
should just be for everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Four hundred billion dollars of capital got distributed last year
to all startups. Less than half of one percent went
to minorities period. That's women, black, Latino age. It's like
less than half of one percent. So the other four
hundred billion, damn near went to white men. And that's crazy,
(13:53):
and so it's really really hard. And then they're bad.
They're bad deals. Like it's like I always say, like
think about this. I'll give you my example.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Of tech.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
For anybody that knows music, think of vcs as the
record company, and think of startups as the artist. So
if I'm fan based, I have no buzz. I'm just
starting out. So if I go to a vcman like, yo,
can I have some money for my startup? Sure, here's
half a million dollars for twenty five percent of your company.
That's the terrible deal. But somebody that doesn't know better
or is really trying to get on and they'll take
(14:23):
that right. So for me, when I heard that that
was the deal, and then the VC was asked me
should I be Should I should I? Why would I
want to go up against Zuckerberger? I'm like, because I
can build everything you can build, but you can't build
black people. You can't build black culture. These apps don't
work without us. Like we see the economic value that they.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
I don't see any of our people with executive job
rolls at end of these major corporations either. Like I
was just you know, looking at Clubhouse, and I was like,
so it it ain't no black executives over they had.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
They had no that's what they had black executives over there.
They laid them all off because the way that they
were doing audio wasn't working and they went a different
direction and the app got really toxic.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Me and you were talking.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
About that like that, like the appline Clubhouse was like
it got like it got like bloods and crips over there.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Like yeah, like it's it's really like Clubhouse really started
as an invite.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was like you had to get invited.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
It was like exclusive thing that everybody was on because
you know, we was all bored in the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And you know, then I will always see you on there.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I would see like Measy, which is twenty one Savage Manager,
and you know, everybody just be on there discussing politics
or you know talk, you know, talking about random stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Then I was like, now, man, it's like gangling on Clubhouse.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
You know, anytime I see it on social media, it's like,
you know, involve some b.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
For so one one one creator Clubhouse got murdered from
another from another user on Clubhouse, like they stopped them
and killed them or something of or something. And then
and then if people don't know what doxing is, you
guys know what docs. So doxing is that's when the
people that's when they your public information. So they would
post your address and tell your address on Clubhouse, and
(16:04):
then people would pull up the kids at they school
or pull up to their house wun to fight and
get into altercations. And first thing I said is that
culture's not coming.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
To fan base, like and how would you prevent that?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Because because because the bad apples that behave like that
won't be on the Apple long enough. Because because and
here's another thing that happened with Clubhouse, because this is crazy.
I was, I was up all night, but I got
up today and I spoke to a large group of
Nigerians that used Clubhouse and they were like, yeah, we
(16:36):
have a seventy five thousand member group on Clubhouse and
I was like, I've never seen you guys. And that's
because Clubhouse was segregated. So they pushed all the white
people to one side, the black people to one side,
the Latinos, the Asians, the Africans. They separated everybody. And
so that's not how audio is supposed to because we're
supposed to communicate and talk with each other. Like I'm
the kind of person like I want I want the
(16:58):
Trump supporters on fanbase, I want them in audio rooms.
Because that was the cool part about Clubhouse You get
to list you could be a fly on the wall
of a community that you never like. Oh, I get
to sit here and listen to these these these a
millionaire real estate guys talk about how they do deals
and just sit there and listen to this.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yep, I remember that not only Clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Do you feel like segregation is throughout all the social
media platforms?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
No Clubhouse was.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
The Clubhouse was that was done during the pandemic because
of Trump. So people were getting on there and they
were and there was a lot of anti and so
what happened was what really changed It was it wasn't
the black stuff. It was a lot of anti Semitic
things that were being said. And then that started trending
on Twitter. And that's when Clubhouse said, Okay, the Trump
supporters got to we got to push them to one
side because Guota bron was coming on there like it's Clubhouse,
(17:44):
Like it's Club's gonna allow anti Semitism and did it.
So they had to separate everybody, and so they pushed
the black people to one side. The Jewish community, they
did all that they and so they separated everybody. So
now there's this echo chamber of just black people. So
you go in the hallway on Clubhouse and it's all
these rooms of people just doing drama rooms and arguing
and fighting all day. With other social media platforms, I
(18:04):
don't think they necessarily segregated. I do think that it
beholds social media platforms to have very famous white creators
and white stuff.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Because they suppressed they suppressed black content on a lot
of these apps. And we had a guest come by
name Robbie World. Yeah he's a content creator, but I
think awkward was like, you know, what are you guys
doing to kind of like stop that from happening.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
And he was like, man, we tried everything. When you
tried everything, I ain't gonna like we tried everything. We
tried striking. It was a TikTok strike we did. It
wasn't posting. At the end of the day, when it
comes to it, we just really just want to have fun,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
And it's just not fair for a creator that just
want to have fun and they getting limited on their views,
you know what I'm saying, so and then getting it
stolen from other people.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I'm gonna look at that. Robbie come to fan base,
come on over, like, here's the thing. The generation that
Robbie's from are the influencer generation. They they wanted to
get large on social media to get brand deals. That's
how you make your money. I get famous and then
a corporation come in and pays me to sponsor this
(19:19):
and do ads and all that kind of stuff. The
generation after them subscription kay Sannat, I predict right now,
say this right now and look at the cameras straight face.
I predict that Kaysuannat will be a billionaire within five years.
I promise you he's going to be a billionaire within
five years. Because that there's nothing That's why I built
fan base. There's nothing in between him and the entire
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planet from people subscribing to him. You don't know who
Kaisan that is? If you if you if you saw,
if you saw, Kaysannatt is part of this this group
called a MP. They're gamers and their streamers and they
stream on Twitch all the time. So he became very
very popular a couple months ago, a few months ago
over the summer, because he streamed for an entire month live,
so he big brother his entire life for thirty days
(20:03):
in a row and he got three hundred thousand subscribers
on Twitch and then he became the most successful Twitch
streamer ever. And the kids, you might have heard a
couple of weeks ago he tried to do some sort
of event in New York City and do a giveaway
and then they rushed the park and they had to
call the police out and clear everybody out. And Kay's
an amazing kid, funny dude, great personality. But the power
(20:24):
that he has on the culture, the effect that he
has on young people.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Because I said that to the kids.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
At Clark, Yeah so ky so Yeah. So I said
that to the kids at Clark. I said, I think
Kyle's that's going to be a billionaire within five years.
They said five, probably three. Yeah, Like they get it
because they people. That's the thing why I say subscriptions
are important. People want to see people go from the
bottom to the top. These kids want to see Kai
(20:49):
go from playing video games in his bedroom to being
part of AMP to being one of the largest and
most successful gamers and creators online. They want to see
ice Spice go from Because the success of ice Spice
is having right now, it's not overnight. It might look
overnight but I was I was looking like she was
around in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty building her sound,
(21:10):
crafting her sound like it's twenty twenty three, so she's
been doing it for two or three years before that.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Like yourself, you've been building this thing for so long.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, you start so fan base.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I founded the company in twenty eighteen, launching in twenty nineteen,
and then COVID shut us down, but that's why I
was able to raise the capitol, and then when we
got money, twenty twenty one is kind of when we
really started. And so again, our growth was like gradual
all the way from twenty twenty all the way to now.
But the last seven days it goes like whoop and
then go in a straight up line. It's like boom.
It's like, oh, okay, we up. So persistence is extremely important.
(21:44):
And I say that and another thing that I was
gonna make a post about this, but I didn't. But
it was the most It was the realest shit ever.
And Summer Walker and Usher and twenty one Savage put
out this song right god, good good, and I loved
the record and I tagged everybody in the record. And
then when you tag people, they send them a DM. Right,
(22:06):
So I went to my messages and I said, oh,
it send it to Summer. And the crazy thing is,
I've never DMed her, but when I go to my messages,
it's like twenty sixteen, she DM me about her cleaning
service business. Wow, like she was on her grind and
it's amazing, like how far she's come in that period
(22:28):
of time. But she sent me a DM like yeah,
I'm doing this x y Z we can do this,
and da da da da, and it was just and
I never saw it, but crazy, it's like that's what
I mean. You never know it like her life from
that point on. But she was grinding, like she was
on her shit like she was. She was persistent NonStop.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I think it was like it's like maybe a year
or two later Girls Need Love came out and then
that was it. It was like all right, ween she
and live look back. But you never know when your
moment's going to come. So it's not about it's not
if it's when. It's about keep doing what you're doing,
being persistent when it's going to happen and successful. So
so back to like what was going back to what
(23:06):
was going on, Robbie. I think what's important about that
is is like subscriptions are are going to change the world.
It's like, you know, like when you can pull out
like I pioneered. And I say this because I know
it sounds crazy and people would not probably believe it,
but I invented in that purchased subscription from person to person.
(23:26):
It didn't exist. So when I'm telling you right now,
when you see Instagram have subscriptions and TikTok and Twitter
and Snapchat where you can take.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Your phone, I think Instagram just started doing subscriptions.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
No, but that's my point is when you can take
out your phone and press buttons. If I can go
on my if I can go on my phone right now,
right and go to fan base and find an artist
like fine, let me see, let me find uh okay.
If I get to hit a button right and hit
that button and then hit subscribe and then just subscribe
like that again, I invented that. No other app able
(24:00):
to do that. You cannot do that with any other app.
So that's what makes it important is because now there's
nothing in between the rest of the world and all
of you from making money.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Now one thing.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I don't care if, like so, if one hundred thousand
people want to subscribe to you, there's nothing stopping from
tapping that button and hitting that button. And that's to
every single person. And I say all the time, if
you're not you're not monetizing your content today, five years
from now, you're going to be out earned by somebody
that's less talented than you are that decided to do
do so. It's not about talent, it is about persistence.
(24:33):
I think there's a lot of talented people out here
in social media that I think they can dance and
they can act and they can sing, and they're upset
that they're not famous. But it's like, you got to
think differently. You're not these all these apps, like every
single body on social media shadow band. We're all shadow band.
You me, everybody's shadow band. It's done because that's how
they make money. A simple, simple statement. When I say
(24:54):
that you're gonna have the aha moment. And I think
I said this before, but when I was here last time,
But why would Instagram let you press button and send
a video content to a million people when they charge
Coca Cola to do the same thing.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
We'll be right by stay hulled with more of The
Baller Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of
The Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
What's Up?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
This is Isaac Hayes, the third founder and see of
fan Base, and you're tuned into the Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
You know, I was talking to somebody about that, and
now that I remember, it was you that said that,
because I was like, man, I said, I think what
social media is doing now. They're they're forcing you to
pay to get your content to be seen.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah, they're forcuning you to run as yourselves because if
they could, right, if I could just post what reason Okay,
I'll say this, like, what reason would Coca Cola pay
Instagram or Facebook to run an ad? If I could
come directly to someone like Robbie who has over a
million followers and just take put your commercial on our page,
(25:57):
you know what I'm saying. It's like they would never
run ads. So they gotta smush your ship down because
that's how they make money. And then they lie to
you and say, oh, we want you to post more
so you trick the algorithm. But what you're giving them
is more real estate.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
And have your baby on live.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, that was that was a
little extreme.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Millions and millions of views on.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Her page, right, But and my point was she could
have put that behind a paywall.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Because now you saw she could.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Have did a whole baby, she could have done a
whole maternity special, and they would have paid for that
base on fan base.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
So what's the future of fan base?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So the future is content, like so fan base Plus
and I'll show you guys like you guys might not
have seen this. And this is why I say it's important,
is that we launched fan Base Plus on desktop and
so so fan Base Plus on desktop is where now
it's like YouTube, So you can upload free videos up
(26:57):
to two hours and you can or you can put
them behind a paywall. So if you have a TV show,
a documentary, reality series, a maternity special, a concert, whatever
you want, you can put it behind a paywall and
charge anywhere from two dollars and ninety nine cents to
ninety nine ninety nine a month for people to see
that content your Netflix. And that's that's that's important because
of the writers strike that's going on right now, like
(27:18):
all these all these people are out of work. They
just need to start making their own shows and putting
and then distributing them on fan Base because like, you
don't have to worry about the studio anymore. You can
just take your money and then it's direct to you.
You're not going through Netflix, you're not going through Disney Plus,
you're not going through Hulu or Amazon Prime, you're not
going through none of the major networks like ABC and nothing.
It's just like, Okay, It's like the successive fan base
(27:40):
is gonna be kind of a hybrid of what Es
did when she went from awkward Black Girl to Insecure.
That same thing is gonna happen on fan Base Plus.
But it's never gonna leave because the show's gonna grow.
Then they're gonna get more subscribers, and they're gonna get
better equipment, and they're gonna get more money.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
They can get more subscribers.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Now, when you own some of that content, what if
people post on your.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
No and I want to make it. I want to
make it that way for a reason, unless we do
like exclusive partnerships. Your content is your content. So if
your stuff blows up and Netflix wants to come and
buy your show and say, hey, we want to buy
your show and take it off fan base and put
it on a major, a major platform. You can do that, right,
but you have a decision to make because once you
do that, the opposite is you don't own the content anymore.
(28:25):
You don't call the shots, and you don't make the
lion's share of the revenue on fan base.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You do.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
You own it, you call the shots, you make the
line share. The revenue is your stuff. To do with it,
what you want to do with it.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So, if you're a content creator, please y'all subscribe to
fan base. Get yes, get your user id, password, everything.
Everybody go over to fan base, May Isaac, y'all gonna.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Lee clubhouse and then invest invest in the company because
you can go to start Engine, dot com slash fan
base to invest. The minimum to invest is two hundred
and forty five dollars. I'm about to close this raise
and then we're about to do something really, really big,
So actually own a part of it. I always plug
the raids because like ownership is extremely important. Do you
know that Facebook is worth five hundred billion dollars with
(29:09):
the B? Do you know that TikTok is worth three
hundred billion dollars with a B? But boy, my god,
all the dances and all the music that we put
on there, and we don't have any generational wealth and
no ownership or no equity and all that, especially young
people artists, like it's gonna change though, that's why, that's
why I'm being disrupted.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But yeah, for.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Sure, their platforms own a piece of their stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Yeah, well it's not that they own a piece of
this stuff. They're just running all these ads and making money.
They're making so much money off ad revenue, and so
it's important that we do that, and you know, that's
that's my goal. That's why, that's why I'm here to
talk about that, other than the clubhouse mess. With fan
base going viral, people are hitting us up. Then it's
like again, it's like I'm independent. I sold I sold
(29:52):
nine and a half million dollars worth of shares out
the truck of my car like master p and so
now we now were coming to the charts. So now
when the phone start ringing, it's not going to be
I want to give you half a million for twenty
five percent of your company. It's going to be I
want to give you one hundred million for eight percent
of your company.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I'll take that deal.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
You will be a billionaire very very soon.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And we're so proud of you, and thank you for
stopping bother the Butlo Alert Show.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Always welcome.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Before we get out of here, though you got to
leave us with a pep talk.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Your moment is your moment.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I met some young people this week that were concerned
about success and how they're want to be successful at life,
and I was like, never, never judge your life on
everybody else around you. Your time is your time. When
it's your time to shine, it's your time to shine.
Samuel Jackson is the highest grossing box office actor of
all time, and he didn't blow up till he was
forty five. So imagine if you're nineteen years old and
(30:45):
your moment is when you're forty five. You have to
keep going. You never know you've got time right use
that time though while you're young, while you can stay
up till three in the morning, seven days a week,
like I have to really, you know, harness your goal,
harness your craft, and work hard. So when you see
someone like Ice Spice make it it's not overnight. It
was her time and she was working. And so some
(31:07):
people work a really long time to blow up and
be successful. So persistence in the same way that I
say with fan bases, I've been persistent. We've had this
startup for four plus years and we've had the best
week ever in year five.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
If I would have given up two years ago, we
would have never got to this point. So that is
why you have to be persistent and don't worry about
everybody else's race. Your race is your race. Run your
race and don't worry about everybody else.
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Speaker 4 (00:27):
Whatep.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's what you know is the case?
Speaker 5 (00:29):
The third is here?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Whatever the studio that we broadcast out of every single
show we got joining us one more time.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We see you every day. But you haven't been on
the show people, it's been a minute. It's been almost
a year. But it's been great, man.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I mean there's been a lot of changes.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah. Man, you guys have really brought a lot of
energy to the office.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I love it. A lot of a lot of dope
people come through. I hear so much. You know, good things.
A lot of a lot of viral moments have come
out of this office in the last probably almost a year.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know you like this my stay at my shit. No,
I just like it.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
No, it looks good though. It's like the waited y'all
really have given us a vibe and I think, I mean,
that's what the office is for Ushoe content. So it's
been incredible. I love it looks great.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Now you've been all in the media.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
Man, what's your Clubhouse got going on?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Clubhouse? Clubhouse kind of came at me. Man.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
They they changed the way that they they the app works,
and a lot of users started leaving and coming to
fan base. It started about this time last week, like Thursday,
like a week ago. It started about a week ago
and we just noticed its up chicking users and over
the weekend we had probably got thirty forty fifty thousand
(01:44):
new users, like quick though, like really fast. We've had
steady growth, but it's gone out of nowhere. So I
go on the app, you know, talk a little bit,
have a little conversation and Grant Cardon for the people
that know Grant Cardons real estate mogul. He you know,
he leaves his message where he does, like it was
a single message that he doesn't like Clubhouse, and I
just shot him a little message like yo, you need
(02:06):
to come on over the fan base and check it out.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And so come to death Row.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Yeah, right, So the head of community at a clubhouse.
This dude named Joe kind of hopped in the feed
and expressed his disdain from me, saying that that that
that grant needs to come to fan base. And I
think that that pissed a lot of people off because
the clubhouse themselves promote Clubhouse on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Yeah, because he was kind of trying to say that
the way that you, as a CEO is marketing your app,
which is fan base on their platform, is kind of
like distasteful.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Here's the thing that makes that funny. Clubhouse is value
of four million dollars. They raised three hundred million dollars.
In comparison to us we have we're about value to
eighty five million dollars and I raised about nine point
five million dollars. But why do you care? I'm I'm
a fly to you guys like you're letting me know
(03:02):
that you're bothered. You understand what I'm saying if you
really and you really pressed about it, and if you
got to like if you if an employee of the company,
the head of community is mad that I'm saying something like, oh,
come and check out another app. If you don't like it,
then y'all are y'all will worried. So you got I
think today's scared. And you know one thing about it.
I love your clop back. Oh yeah, I tend to
(03:24):
well it's not that I see, but I don't. I
leave people alone and then somebody messes with me. Then
you know, I respond. But you know, I mean the
people have the people have.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Chosen, and that's going to say.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Obviously, this has definitely helped you because a lot of
their users went to you.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
We had like over forty k new.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Users, right, yeah, forty thousand. It's more than that. Like
I said, we're almost at half a million users for
fan base, which is a big milestone.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But it was like all over the world.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
It was like India, Moga, d Shoe, Stockholm, Sweden, London, Bangkok, Thailand,
like you know, Canada, Like we see these places all
over the world and they're starting to move their communities
over to fan base, which is causing massive views of growth.
I'm closing this last rank, this last round of funding
for the campaign on start Engine, so we're almost air
(04:15):
right about three point eight million dollars and we're stopping
at five million. So it's been like dope, it's been
like Okay, let's lock this up. So this is the
best week, I'll say you right now, this is the
best week that fan Base has had as a company
since I've launched the company.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, people are pulling up.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
And real quickly. I know, we just delve into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But can you tell people who don't know what fan
base is exactly what that is?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, So fan Base is is my version of social
media for the future. I think that subscriptions are about
to take over the world. Fan Base is designed with
six media verticals to post, so it's free to download,
free to use, it doesn't cost anything, and you can
post content behind the paywall or not and half subscribe
(05:00):
from either two dollars or ninety nine cents a month
to ninety nine ninety nine a month. And it's a
black founding. And the reason why that's important is because
most of these startups make they're billions of dollars off
of our community. Right are we are the gasoline to
the engine, like we are never the We are never
the vehicle, right, We're always what powers the vehicle. And
(05:23):
so when that happens, there's no you know, the money
doesn't go to these young kids and make all these
cool dances and the constannots of the world, and all
these people like they're getting paid.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Some of them are, but most of them are.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
So for every const and not, there's probably fifty thousand
that aren't, but they're still contributing content, making this company
worth multi billions of dollars. And so the design of
fan Base was to number one, let anybody on the planet,
no matter what race, age, you are, whatever where you
are on the planet, you can be yourself. We don't
suppressure content, and you can make money. And so I
just wanted to you know, if you're not this is
(05:56):
the thing about disruption, if you're not pissing people off,
not doing it right, that's what you're supposed to come
to the party and ruin it for everybody. You're supposed
to come in there, like I'm supposed to ruin it
for clubs. As a competitor. It's but see, I don't
think fan Base is a competitor at the clubhouse. I'm
thinking I don't think fan Base is a competitor to
any social media platform because number one, I think all
(06:17):
these apps have a lifespan. They're going to live and
they're going to die. I don't think there's any immortal
social media platform. I think there's one, but I'm not
gonna say. But like my Space is dead, Facebook's a
singing citizen, right, Instagrams and Middle Asia a doult Snapchat,
some millennial TikTok and centennial I be. I built fan
Base to be the successor platform. So they're more in
competition with me than I am with them because I'm
(06:37):
over here doing subscriptions. I'm letting everybody get their content
scene I'm not. I'm letting everybody be themselves. I'm not
shadow banding people all that kind of stuff. So I
just want people to have fun, especially young people to
to you know, make money, and apps need to be fun,
and we haven't. We're having fun over on fan Base.
That's the thing is fun, it's new. And then and
(06:57):
then allowing people to invest. You got to think about
these companies, like think about like I said, I'll use
Clubhouse as an example. You're a four billion dollar company.
You raised three hundred million dollars. What percentage or what
part of the users of that platform actually own a
piece of the company. Probably next to nothing, Yeah, probably nobody.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
And what I noticed about Clubhouse too, is that like
our culture built Clubhouse absolutely, and you know, when it
was sold at a billion dollars, I didn't see anybody,
you know, like yourself a mesia state, like all these
people that was drawing me in, you know at the
time to even be a part of an app like that,
(07:36):
and I was like, they don't support you know, our culture, like.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And the irony in that is there was not an audio.
There was no audio on fan Base, fan maatesees didn't
have audio. Well, the reason why I built audio into
fan Base is because the first million users on Clubhouse
asked to invest and they said no. Then they ran
out and raised one hundred million dollars at a billion
dollar evaluation. So I said, we're going to build audio
because I was already at already raised three million dollars.
So I said, the next round, I do. I just
(08:01):
let people invest who wanted to own part of Clubhouse.
Now they can own part of this version of audio,
so that it's monetized for people to have that. So again,
if you're not pissing people off, I think, you know,
disruption is the name of the game. And they showed
their hand, they really, you know, showed their hand at
their little upset, but I think that's just a part
of this growth though. I think the team has been
(08:22):
working extremely hard. We got a bunch of new functionality coming.
We're closing this round. If you got I'm not gonna
put you on the spot. But if you guys aren't
fan based investors, you should be fan based investors. Let
me tell you why. Because we've had the best week
we ever had. The minimum to invest in the company
is two hundred and forty five dollars, right, That's like
I say, people buy shoes. I see people go, you know,
(08:43):
getting drinks at the club, have a good Saturday night.
Imagine that, and then you spend the same amount of
money on shares and fan base in eight years from now,
you're like, wait, that company that I spent and were public.
Wait my two hundred and forty five dollars is worth
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, Like, oh Apple, Like
that's what.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's why.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That's the opportunity that I'm giving people on why I
think it's so important because we all can we all
control the ability to make the platform valuable by using it.
I'm gonna get baller alert on fan base and audio rooms.
You guys should pull up on the audio rooms now
because they get a little spicy. Okay, we're down, they're down.
They're a little they're a little spicy. But it's a
great way to build like real time audio. Like my version,
(09:24):
my version, my vision of audio is different from what
these other platforms are doing. But it's truly entertaining. I mean,
our rooms are getting mastered to there. They're crashing the app.
Then we got to wake up at three I've been
up to three o'clock in the morning every day this
week because it's like literally the app will be like glitching,
and then we got to wake up and fix it.
And I gotta go like host rooms, and people are saying,
you know, a whole group of people want to move
(09:46):
over from from club.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All because you're getting so much traffic. Yeah, it's it's
forcing us to grow, it's forcing us to be better.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That's good. That's a good thing. Crashing app is good.
That's why I say, crash our app. Keep doing it
because it makes us better. We have to fix the
app to make it dope. I just did a We
just did the first ever in the history ever academic
partnership within HBCU and a social media platform like academically
so with CAU so I was down at CU yesterday.
Fan Base is going to be taught as a class
(10:15):
at Clark Atlanta University. So tons of things about marketing,
emerging technology, you know, building an audience, all these things.
You know, these kids that are really really interested, and
so they were excited. I showed them the app. I
got to show them the whole app. They got excited
about three things. The first thing they got excited about
was making money because I went live and made like
(10:36):
fifty dollars in like five minutes, and they were like, Okay,
that's crazy. Second thing was you can move your content
from Instagram over to fan Base and it stays on Instagram,
but you just migrated over, so it just ships it over.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You can do that on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
And the third thing that they got excited about, which
I was really surprised, that they wanted to invest. And
I was like, you should invest because you guys are
the ones that are going to benefit this two hundred
and forty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I know college kids don't have a lot of money,
but some of them do and have the ability, and
it's a better investment than I'm gonna go, you know,
run out and this weekend and hang out with my
friends spend two hundred forty five dollars on some things
that I'm never going to get back there that are
not tangible. So that was the best part about that.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
So we'll be right back, but more of a baller
Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of the
baller Alert Show.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (11:25):
This is Isaac Hay's the third founder and CEO fan Base,
and you're tuned into the baller Alert Show.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know, you've been building this app for a while,
just like you said, as a black app, and like
you said, just getting up at three o'clock.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
In the morning.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
As it's growing, it's crashing and you have to you know,
fix it and things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Can you kind of like take us into what that's like.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah, well, I mean I have an amazing team. My
CTO Ramiro and the team are incredible. They build the
best product ever. Like I said that nothing speaks better.
I can never speak for fan Base better than the
app itself. Could you just download it, you use it,
you see for yourself. What's going on. It's been fun
because I'm a newbie to the space. This is the
(12:08):
first time I've ever tried to build an app. I
think that's a I think that's a blessing though, because
I do not have a blueprint, so therefore I do
not follow any rules that anyone told me to do.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I don't. I haven't been to Silicon Valley one time.
I have it. No, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
No, because listen, my friends, a lot of my friends
that are in this space follow the rules and they
got burnt.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
They got bad.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Business deals, they got kicked out of their companies, they
got screwed over by investors and stuff like that. And
so me, coming from the music business, I understand that
nothing is more shady than the music business. So tech
it is like chech is like it is nothing, text nothing.
I'm ready, I got thick skin. You know, you're getting
judged as a producer whether your beats are hot or not,
or whether you can make it as a producer your
whole life. So I'm like, I don't. I'm not tripping
(12:51):
about none of that. So not going to.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The VCS, like VCS were like, oh.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Why would you want to be why would you want
to go against Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook like they're giants, and.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Those are the people that give they give me money.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
So venture capitals, so are the ones actually fund these startups.
And what's crazy is if you've been seeing what's going
on with Arion Simone and Fearless Fun where they're trying
to sue because of affirmative action. They're trying to block
her because her fund is is dedicated towards women of
color right specifically to fund their businesses. And so I
forget that asshole's name the guy, but he's trying to
sue her because of the Supreme Court decision to make
(13:28):
it illegal for her to give that money, like it
should just be for everybody.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Four hundred billion dollars of capital got distributed last year
to all startups. Less than half of one percent went
to minorities period. That's women, black, Latino age. It's like
less than half of one percent. So the other four
hundred billion, damn near went to white men. And that's crazy,
(13:53):
and so it's really really hard. And then they're bad.
They're bad deals. Like it's like I always say, like
think about this. I'll give you my example.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Of tech.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
For anybody that knows music, think of vcs as the
record company, and think of startups as the artist. So
if I'm fan based, I have no buzz. I'm just
starting out. So if I go to a vcman like, yo,
can I have some money for my startup? Sure, here's
half a million dollars for twenty five percent of your company.
That's the terrible deal. But somebody that doesn't know better
or is really trying to get on and they'll take
(14:23):
that right. So for me, when I heard that that
was the deal, and then the VC was asked me
should I be Should I should I? Why would I
want to go up against Zuckerberger? I'm like, because I
can build everything you can build, but you can't build
black people. You can't build black culture. These apps don't
work without us. Like we see the economic value that they.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
I don't see any of our people with executive job
rolls at end of these major corporations either. Like I
was just you know, looking at Clubhouse, and I was like,
so it it ain't no black executives over they had.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
They had no that's what they had black executives over there.
They laid them all off because the way that they
were doing audio wasn't working and they went a different
direction and the app got really toxic.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Me and you were talking.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
About that like that, like the appline Clubhouse was like
it got like it got like bloods and crips over there.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Like yeah, like it's it's really like Clubhouse really started
as an invite.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was like you had to get invited.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
It was like exclusive thing that everybody was on because
you know, we was all bored in the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And you know, then I will always see you on there.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I would see like Measy, which is twenty one Savage Manager,
and you know, everybody just be on there discussing politics
or you know talk, you know, talking about random stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Then I was like, now, man, it's like gangling on Clubhouse.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
You know, anytime I see it on social media, it's like,
you know, involve some b.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
For so one one one creator Clubhouse got murdered from
another from another user on Clubhouse, like they stopped them
and killed them or something of or something. And then
and then if people don't know what doxing is, you
guys know what docs. So doxing is that's when the
people that's when they your public information. So they would
post your address and tell your address on Clubhouse, and
(16:04):
then people would pull up the kids at they school
or pull up to their house wun to fight and
get into altercations. And first thing I said is that
culture's not coming.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
To fan base, like and how would you prevent that?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Because because because the bad apples that behave like that
won't be on the Apple long enough. Because because and
here's another thing that happened with Clubhouse, because this is crazy.
I was, I was up all night, but I got
up today and I spoke to a large group of
Nigerians that used Clubhouse and they were like, yeah, we
(16:36):
have a seventy five thousand member group on Clubhouse and
I was like, I've never seen you guys. And that's
because Clubhouse was segregated. So they pushed all the white
people to one side, the black people to one side,
the Latinos, the Asians, the Africans. They separated everybody. And
so that's not how audio is supposed to because we're
supposed to communicate and talk with each other. Like I'm
the kind of person like I want I want the
(16:58):
Trump supporters on fanbase, I want them in audio rooms.
Because that was the cool part about Clubhouse You get
to list you could be a fly on the wall
of a community that you never like. Oh, I get
to sit here and listen to these these these a
millionaire real estate guys talk about how they do deals
and just sit there and listen to this.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yep, I remember that not only Clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Do you feel like segregation is throughout all the social
media platforms?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
No Clubhouse was.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
The Clubhouse was that was done during the pandemic because
of Trump. So people were getting on there and they
were and there was a lot of anti and so
what happened was what really changed It was it wasn't
the black stuff. It was a lot of anti Semitic
things that were being said. And then that started trending
on Twitter. And that's when Clubhouse said, Okay, the Trump
supporters got to we got to push them to one
side because Guota bron was coming on there like it's Clubhouse,
(17:44):
Like it's Club's gonna allow anti Semitism and did it.
So they had to separate everybody, and so they pushed
the black people to one side. The Jewish community, they
did all that they and so they separated everybody. So
now there's this echo chamber of just black people. So
you go in the hallway on Clubhouse and it's all
these rooms of people just doing drama rooms and arguing
and fighting all day. With other social media platforms, I
(18:04):
don't think they necessarily segregated. I do think that it
beholds social media platforms to have very famous white creators
and white stuff.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Because they suppressed they suppressed black content on a lot
of these apps. And we had a guest come by
name Robbie World. Yeah he's a content creator, but I
think awkward was like, you know, what are you guys
doing to kind of like stop that from happening.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
And he was like, man, we tried everything. When you
tried everything, I ain't gonna like we tried everything. We
tried striking. It was a TikTok strike we did. It
wasn't posting. At the end of the day, when it
comes to it, we just really just want to have fun,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
And it's just not fair for a creator that just
want to have fun and they getting limited on their views,
you know what I'm saying, so and then getting it
stolen from other people.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I'm gonna look at that. Robbie come to fan base,
come on over, like, here's the thing. The generation that
Robbie's from are the influencer generation. They they wanted to
get large on social media to get brand deals. That's
how you make your money. I get famous and then
a corporation come in and pays me to sponsor this
(19:19):
and do ads and all that kind of stuff. The
generation after them subscription kay Sannat, I predict right now,
say this right now and look at the cameras straight face.
I predict that Kaysuannat will be a billionaire within five years.
I promise you he's going to be a billionaire within
five years. Because that there's nothing That's why I built
fan base. There's nothing in between him and the entire
(19:40):
planet from people subscribing to him. You don't know who
Kaisan that is? If you if you if you saw,
if you saw, Kaysannatt is part of this this group
called a MP. They're gamers and their streamers and they
stream on Twitch all the time. So he became very
very popular a couple months ago, a few months ago
over the summer, because he streamed for an entire month live,
so he big brother his entire life for thirty days
(20:03):
in a row and he got three hundred thousand subscribers
on Twitch and then he became the most successful Twitch
streamer ever. And the kids, you might have heard a
couple of weeks ago he tried to do some sort
of event in New York City and do a giveaway
and then they rushed the park and they had to
call the police out and clear everybody out. And Kay's
an amazing kid, funny dude, great personality. But the power
(20:24):
that he has on the culture, the effect that he
has on young people.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Because I said that to the kids.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
At Clark, Yeah so ky so Yeah. So I said
that to the kids at Clark. I said, I think
Kyle's that's going to be a billionaire within five years.
They said five, probably three. Yeah, Like they get it
because they people. That's the thing why I say subscriptions
are important. People want to see people go from the
bottom to the top. These kids want to see Kai
(20:49):
go from playing video games in his bedroom to being
part of AMP to being one of the largest and
most successful gamers and creators online. They want to see
ice Spice go from Because the success of ice Spice
is having right now, it's not overnight. It might look
overnight but I was I was looking like she was
around in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty building her sound,
(21:10):
crafting her sound like it's twenty twenty three, so she's
been doing it for two or three years before that.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Like yourself, you've been building this thing for so long.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, you start so fan base.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I founded the company in twenty eighteen, launching in twenty nineteen,
and then COVID shut us down, but that's why I
was able to raise the capitol, and then when we
got money, twenty twenty one is kind of when we
really started. And so again, our growth was like gradual
all the way from twenty twenty all the way to now.
But the last seven days it goes like whoop and
then go in a straight up line. It's like boom.
It's like, oh, okay, we up. So persistence is extremely important.
(21:44):
And I say that and another thing that I was
gonna make a post about this, but I didn't. But
it was the most It was the realest shit ever.
And Summer Walker and Usher and twenty one Savage put
out this song right god, good good, and I loved
the record and I tagged everybody in the record. And
then when you tag people, they send them a DM. Right,
(22:06):
So I went to my messages and I said, oh,
it send it to Summer. And the crazy thing is,
I've never DMed her, but when I go to my messages,
it's like twenty sixteen, she DM me about her cleaning
service business. Wow, like she was on her grind and
it's amazing, like how far she's come in that period
(22:28):
of time. But she sent me a DM like yeah,
I'm doing this x y Z we can do this,
and da da da da, and it was just and
I never saw it, but crazy, it's like that's what
I mean. You never know it like her life from
that point on. But she was grinding, like she was
on her shit like she was. She was persistent NonStop.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I think it was like it's like maybe a year
or two later Girls Need Love came out and then
that was it. It was like all right, ween she
and live look back. But you never know when your
moment's going to come. So it's not about it's not
if it's when. It's about keep doing what you're doing,
being persistent when it's going to happen and successful. So
so back to like what was going back to what
(23:06):
was going on, Robbie. I think what's important about that
is is like subscriptions are are going to change the world.
It's like, you know, like when you can pull out
like I pioneered. And I say this because I know
it sounds crazy and people would not probably believe it,
but I invented in that purchased subscription from person to person.
(23:26):
It didn't exist. So when I'm telling you right now,
when you see Instagram have subscriptions and TikTok and Twitter
and Snapchat where you can take.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Your phone, I think Instagram just started doing subscriptions.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
No, but that's my point is when you can take
out your phone and press buttons. If I can go
on my if I can go on my phone right now,
right and go to fan base and find an artist
like fine, let me see, let me find uh okay.
If I get to hit a button right and hit
that button and then hit subscribe and then just subscribe
like that again, I invented that. No other app able
(24:00):
to do that. You cannot do that with any other app.
So that's what makes it important is because now there's
nothing in between the rest of the world and all
of you from making money.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Now one thing.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I don't care if, like so, if one hundred thousand
people want to subscribe to you, there's nothing stopping from
tapping that button and hitting that button. And that's to
every single person. And I say all the time, if
you're not you're not monetizing your content today, five years
from now, you're going to be out earned by somebody
that's less talented than you are that decided to do
do so. It's not about talent, it is about persistence.
(24:33):
I think there's a lot of talented people out here
in social media that I think they can dance and
they can act and they can sing, and they're upset
that they're not famous. But it's like, you got to
think differently. You're not these all these apps, like every
single body on social media shadow band. We're all shadow band.
You me, everybody's shadow band. It's done because that's how
they make money. A simple, simple statement. When I say
(24:54):
that you're gonna have the aha moment. And I think
I said this before, but when I was here last time,
But why would Instagram let you press button and send
a video content to a million people when they charge
Coca Cola to do the same thing.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
We'll be right by stay hulled with more of The
Baller Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of
The Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
What's Up?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
This is Isaac Hayes, the third founder and see of
fan Base, and you're tuned into the Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
You know, I was talking to somebody about that, and
now that I remember, it was you that said that,
because I was like, man, I said, I think what
social media is doing now. They're they're forcing you to
pay to get your content to be seen.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yeah, they're forcuning you to run as yourselves because if
they could, right, if I could just post what reason Okay,
I'll say this, like, what reason would Coca Cola pay
Instagram or Facebook to run an ad? If I could
come directly to someone like Robbie who has over a
million followers and just take put your commercial on our page,
(25:57):
you know what I'm saying. It's like they would never
run ads. So they gotta smush your ship down because
that's how they make money. And then they lie to
you and say, oh, we want you to post more
so you trick the algorithm. But what you're giving them
is more real estate.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
And have your baby on live.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, that was that was a
little extreme.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Millions and millions of views on.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Her page, right, But and my point was she could
have put that behind a paywall.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Because now you saw she could.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Have did a whole baby, she could have done a
whole maternity special, and they would have paid for that
base on fan base.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
So what's the future of fan base?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So the future is content, like so fan base Plus
and I'll show you guys like you guys might not
have seen this. And this is why I say it's important,
is that we launched fan Base Plus on desktop and
so so fan Base Plus on desktop is where now
it's like YouTube, So you can upload free videos up
(26:57):
to two hours and you can or you can put
them behind a paywall. So if you have a TV show,
a documentary, reality series, a maternity special, a concert, whatever
you want, you can put it behind a paywall and
charge anywhere from two dollars and ninety nine cents to
ninety nine ninety nine a month for people to see
that content your Netflix. And that's that's that's important because
of the writers strike that's going on right now, like
(27:18):
all these all these people are out of work. They
just need to start making their own shows and putting
and then distributing them on fan Base because like, you
don't have to worry about the studio anymore. You can
just take your money and then it's direct to you.
You're not going through Netflix, you're not going through Disney Plus,
you're not going through Hulu or Amazon Prime, you're not
going through none of the major networks like ABC and nothing.
It's just like, Okay, It's like the successive fan base
(27:40):
is gonna be kind of a hybrid of what Es
did when she went from awkward Black Girl to Insecure.
That same thing is gonna happen on fan Base Plus.
But it's never gonna leave because the show's gonna grow.
Then they're gonna get more subscribers, and they're gonna get
better equipment, and they're gonna get more money.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
They can get more subscribers.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Now, when you own some of that content, what if
people post on your.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
No and I want to make it. I want to
make it that way for a reason, unless we do
like exclusive partnerships. Your content is your content. So if
your stuff blows up and Netflix wants to come and
buy your show and say, hey, we want to buy
your show and take it off fan base and put
it on a major, a major platform. You can do that, right,
but you have a decision to make because once you
do that, the opposite is you don't own the content anymore.
(28:25):
You don't call the shots, and you don't make the
lion's share of the revenue on fan base.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You do.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
You own it, you call the shots, you make the
line share. The revenue is your stuff. To do with it,
what you want to do with it.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So, if you're a content creator, please y'all subscribe to
fan base. Get yes, get your user id, password, everything.
Everybody go over to fan base, May Isaac, y'all gonna.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Lee clubhouse and then invest invest in the company because
you can go to start Engine, dot com slash fan
base to invest. The minimum to invest is two hundred
and forty five dollars. I'm about to close this raise
and then we're about to do something really, really big,
So actually own a part of it. I always plug
the raids because like ownership is extremely important. Do you
know that Facebook is worth five hundred billion dollars with
(29:09):
the B? Do you know that TikTok is worth three
hundred billion dollars with a B? But boy, my god,
all the dances and all the music that we put
on there, and we don't have any generational wealth and
no ownership or no equity and all that, especially young
people artists, like it's gonna change though, that's why, that's
why I'm being disrupted.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But yeah, for.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Sure, their platforms own a piece of their stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Yeah, well it's not that they own a piece of
this stuff. They're just running all these ads and making money.
They're making so much money off ad revenue, and so
it's important that we do that, and you know, that's
that's my goal. That's why, that's why I'm here to
talk about that, other than the clubhouse mess. With fan
base going viral, people are hitting us up. Then it's
like again, it's like I'm independent. I sold I sold
(29:52):
nine and a half million dollars worth of shares out
the truck of my car like master p and so
now we now were coming to the charts. So now
when the phone start ringing, it's not going to be
I want to give you half a million for twenty
five percent of your company. It's going to be I
want to give you one hundred million for eight percent
of your company.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I'll take that deal.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
You will be a billionaire very very soon.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And we're so proud of you, and thank you for
stopping bother the Butlo Alert Show.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Always welcome.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Before we get out of here, though you got to
leave us with a pep talk.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Your moment is your moment.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I met some young people this week that were concerned
about success and how they're want to be successful at life,
and I was like, never, never judge your life on
everybody else around you. Your time is your time. When
it's your time to shine, it's your time to shine.
Samuel Jackson is the highest grossing box office actor of
all time, and he didn't blow up till he was
forty five. So imagine if you're nineteen years old and
(30:45):
your moment is when you're forty five. You have to
keep going. You never know you've got time right use
that time though while you're young, while you can stay
up till three in the morning, seven days a week,
like I have to really, you know, harness your goal,
harness your craft, and work hard. So when you see
someone like Ice Spice make it it's not overnight. It
was her time and she was working. And so some
(31:07):
people work a really long time to blow up and
be successful. So persistence in the same way that I
say with fan bases, I've been persistent. We've had this
startup for four plus years and we've had the best
week ever in year five.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
If I would have given up two years ago, we
would have never got to this point. So that is
why you have to be persistent and don't worry about
everybody else's race. Your race is your race. Run your
race and don't worry about everybody else.
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