Episode 290 "Mariah The Scientist"

Episode 290 - "The Baller Alert Show" Feat: Ferrari Simmons & You Know BT Produced by: Octavia March

Topics include: Mariah The Scientist - Million Dollar Record Deal, Industry Secrets,Young Thug, Marriage & More.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
World with me here, you know, BT know how it goes,
shout out oct no real color what we see?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Whole game? The butler something, Oh, you can't stand on
the house, you see. I already know you can't with
me because with the squad of me they get in.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
They called me.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello. Ball Alert Well to the Baller Show. Podcasts available
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subscribe on YouTube page at Baller alert TV. I go
by the name of Ferrari Simmons. I go by the
name you know, BT see with that right, the scientists
of the building. It's not with us, y'all know. Code on.

(00:41):
It's cold outside, and it's cold outside fifty eight Okay,
it's very nicely.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Teeth I have in viziline. I just got it this year.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But you have diamonds in your teeth too.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
No, that's like a case.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Okay, my bad, you ahead. I did have a visilin.
But maybe it's the maybe it's the ray bad metas
that I have one. Anyway, Mariah, how you doing? Where's Mariah?
The scientists from She's from Atlanta. She's from Atlanta. What
part of Atlanta? Okay, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
In the swats really, and then we moved to the
east Side.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Really, so do you where do you claim?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I claim the east Side? Okay, I mean I claim both.
If the conversations are deep enough.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So did you grow up wanting to be a scientist?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Really well, I wanted to be like a doctor in
the medical field. You're off, it gets very smart you.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, well that makes you feel Is that your name? Mariah?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And then where did the scientists come from? Is that
really what happened?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I went to school for biology in New York, even
though I see you've got a spell house.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I did not go to Spelman, but it was for homecoming. Anyway,
we're talking to Mariah here.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Yeah, and you know what, when you first hopped on
the scene, I thought that, don't judge me. I thought
that you were like a scientist that became a singer.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that's what I just said.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
That.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, like I'm thinking, like, you're a real scientist. She
went to school for fool when she was but she
she did you graduate?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
She just said, wait, wait, wait, now what you just
sayn She said she didn't graduate? But I stayed for
a long time, I say for three years. Okay, she
knows a periodic table better than you probably probably saw.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Probably do you know what to know how to wear
a coat when it's cold?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
When she she like she said she did time in
New York at Saint John, so cold here is nothing
compared to New York.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Was some different be brick? Can we can we discuss
the music part? Because you're in school and you're doing
stuff like this, How did the music play into it?
Have you always been singing? No?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I always like music. Well, I went to in elementary
school that was like a acquire of course, and I
have like some memories of like that. I like wanted
to be more involved in it, and then I just
stopped doing it after elementary school. And then when I
got to college, I just made a song.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Why it was for X?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It was it?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
This song? No love song? Love song?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Whatever? Okay?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
What what was the tone of the song.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It was like a lovey dovey song. But I don't
have excess, So I really tried to eliminate this part
of the story.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Where you don't have excess. No, I don't have them,
got it? Say? Lest So you made this song? Yes
about a guy or about somebody? And who heard it?
What happened?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
My friends heard it. They liked it, and they said,
keep doing it. Put it out. So I put it
out on SoundCloud.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You put it out on SoundCloud. That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
When I put a couple of them out.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And then.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
But I was kind of like I was quiet in college,
so nobody really knew me like that. And then I
think we started to hear what was on SoundCloud though,
and then they were like, that's that's you kind of
and then here we are.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Did you shoot a music video?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Of course? Who had the money for that?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I mean you had a phone.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
But did you when you when you was putting on SoundCloud?
Did you put it under maraud of scientists?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I did, so you came up with your own name.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I did.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
So you sat there like work of it.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
But well, they needed to know where to find her
in science class when they were trying to find her
on SoundCloud.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Why do you want to get rid of it?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I thought it was like kind of corny, but everybody
was like, no, that's so marketable, you need to keep that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I mean, I've never heard of anyone named the scientist
the creator. Yeah, well who's the scientist though? Yeah? That's
what I'm thinking, Like I've never heard of scientists.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, I do like that, it's it could be misleading, though,
I do like that part, you know, but I don't
know because people be like that sound like a rap name.
It's like, but I'm not a rapper.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But what happened next? So it's on SoundCloud people that
starting to say that you Eventually, then what happened?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And then I started getting these calls. I don't even
know how to get my phone number, but it started
with like Chubby and then I guess maybe it was
because the kids there, at least the ones who were
like social socialized, they were like talking about it. And
then I guess some kind of way it was getting
to like some New York and ours, and then I

(05:22):
guess he probably heard about it and heard that I
was from Atlanta, and then he hit me up and then.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
So that was cool, but I moved on and then
you know what you did? Sign At that particular.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Time, I waited a little bit.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Okay, did you consult anybody about this?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Not?

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Well?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Okay, So eventually I met Tory Lanez and then we
had like a what is it called? Not not it's
not distribution, it's a an arrangement production deal okay, and
then but we didn't really get that until after I
started to like find labels that I like and he
was like, I don't think you should sign to a label.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
And then, but that's what Toy was saying.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, so he advised you to go independent maybe, but
I just felt like it was never really gonna be
independent because it was going to be signed to him. Oh.
I think he just didn't want me to sign to
nobody else.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Now what year is this If you don't mind me.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
That it's in like twenty eighteen, okay or twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
That's not too long ago.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, it wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
So Tory Lanez you met him, he wanted you to
you guys did a production deal and he told you
don't go to a label pretty much to pretty much,
you know, sign his label or did he use that
I'm gonna walk you into the label.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
No, it was like the labels were coming to me
and he was like, you don't need to do that.
Were good.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
How'd you meet him?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Maybe? Like a Okay, So I have a friend named Beijia.
She lives in California. She's also from Atlanta though, and
she's like a real like social like influence, hardcore influencer
from the beginning too, like Tom Blade time, she just
like always on shiit ahead of time. So she was
like post my music and he had a photographer and
I guess they knew each other and was listening to

(07:05):
the music. Then he showed it to Tory and then
Toy was calling me, and then we started working together.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Okay, d Tory look at you and said I need
to work with her, I think.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So he was like, I just want to. I feel
like I love your sound. I want to help you
and this and that. So, you know, it was like
at first it was like a he didn't openly say
I want to do a deal. It was just like,
I fuck with your music. I don't want to look
out for you.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And then it was like, oh he want a deal though,
Oh because he wants to control the situation.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think so a little bit. But it's I mean,
I feel like that's how it goes a lot of times.
It's business. And I feel like if I saw me,
I would probably try to sign this shit too, you know,
but that's good.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
My question, so, how are you financially at this particular moment.
Are you making money?

Speaker 6 (07:49):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I wasn't making any money school.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Still, you're still in school right now. I dropped out,
So you dropped out? This made this made you drop out?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
No, I had already dropped out.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Why did you drop out of college?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So it's like a crossroads in college where it's like
I had a scholarship for undergraduate school. They do not
give scholarships out like that. For medical school. It's really
like rare so and medical school is expensive. It's more
expensive than So.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You did undergrad then, is what you saying?

Speaker 6 (08:14):
I did?

Speaker 1 (08:14):
I mean I didn't finish. I did three out of
four years, and so I just started weighing the odds,
like I don't know about this. And then we had
an Eastern break and I just stayed home from the
Easter break. I didn't go back. I left all my
shit in the dorm. Yeah, that was like a little risky.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
What'd your parents say?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I didn't tell my dad because he's more strict, but
my mama was like, you need to go back, and
I was like, I ain't going back. So I didn't
go back. And then eventually when the school year was over,
we had to go back and get all my stuff.
M So at that point it was like in between
me dropping out during Easter break. It really wasn't that long, honestly,
I felt. I mean, I'm appreciative that it went, you know,

(08:51):
as fast as it did, but I guess like Tourri
and them, Chubby and them, they were calling like right
after that Easter break, Chubby was calling before Easter break,
and then like in between the rest of that school year.
Then it's like I got to know tour That was cool.
He taught me a couple of things. I appreciate that.
Fast forward maybe like less than a year later, then
I signed a deal. So how did that deal come about?
It was with RCA, So there was like a couple

(09:13):
of people before that. Maybe I'm not gonna second. Arista
was the first people that came, and of course it's like,
oh my god. Then now they're like showing me their
track record and it's like they have had Whitney Houston
at Oh my god, the people who sign Whitney Houston. Well,
you know, it's like all of that. And then I
wound up going with RCAO because I felt like it
seemed like they had a diverse staff. That doesn't always

(09:37):
mean anything, but in the moment, it seemed like they
have Like what.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Did they offer you that that stood out the most
besides the diverse staff.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I think that after it was like multiple different labels
coming after my first you know deal, it was like
it gave me more leverage maybe to ask for what
I wanted, but I asked it for my masses and
my where. It was like, they ain't gonna get it.
You ain't never made no music like you have no,
you have nothing?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, now who this lawyer you worked for it? He
worked for the label too? Oh yes, but she didn't.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
She wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Name is Gillian Barr. She works in New York.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
But she supported your uh, what you wanted and you
got it.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
She was just like it might be hard to get
those things. But I was like, I'll tell you exactly
what I said. I said, I want to owe my
messes and I want a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Did you get it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I did?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
But then that's something like this morse period started right,
not remorse, but it was like, damn, they gave me
this stuff and I've never done this though, they've never
even they never even heard me sing in person. I've
never done a show. At this point I've never ever performed.
It's like I literally just made some songs on SoundCloud
and these people signed and he was like, so.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You felt bad for taking the money I did?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I felt like Dad, and it's like listen, I can't
get you out of this. You know you brought this up.
You know, he like saying stuff like that. And then
it's like, I mean, but it was like a growing thing.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
But they supported you so and I know it's like,
you know, the thing is on you now, like what
you're gonna do? So you just had to turn up?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah I did. It was slow. It was a slow start,
but I feel like now it's turned But how was
it having a deal though? Was they like on you,
like to push you to make music? They already gave
you everything. My honest opinion is that in the beginning,
and this is for anybody who wants to make music,
the beginning is like, we believe in you, we love
your sound, we love your vision. We don't want to
change anything about you. We want you just how you are.

(11:39):
And then it's like then you sign this, like but
we need to do this, that, this and that and
blah blah blah, and it's like you feel obgated to
do it because they gave you a shitload of money,
you know, and then you wind up doing it, and
it's like that's there is a political aspect. I'll tell
you that for sure, it's a political aspect. But then
eventually it was like, that's like when a TikTok thing

(12:01):
was like booming, right, And I feel like that's when
labels just like whatever infrastructure they had and will usually
depend on and rely on for like their methods and
their their strategy on like making an artist. I feel
like it went out the window that TikTok stuff, the
internet stuff. It was like they expected you to be
on that internet. They don't want anybody else in their
office to have to do it.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's like that's almost want you to work.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
She got a TikTok that went viral.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I do, but I don't really care for the TikTok thing.
It's not that I dislike TikTok, don't get me wrong,
but I feel like it just requires a lot of
interaction with the phone and like the public and like
a public opinion that's not really your thing. You have
to submit to that if you want that to work
for you. And it's like I wouldn't say.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
You could tell you artists. I feel like every artist
hates stearing it. Some artists love it, some artists hate it.
Depends on who you are.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
There's a lot of attention. Now. I had a question
for you. I was a music director at the Preview
his radio station, and a single You're single, I remember
when you had first got to that label came across
my desk feature in a Little Baby. How did that
come about?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So there's this producer name Earl Earl on the beat
and he may like act up, you can get snatched
up and so, but I've known him for a long
time and he played me in his beat and I
was like, immediately when I heard it, I thought, I
feel like little Baby would just go crazy on that song.
Particularly that's when Baby was like and he and I
was like, I really need this, and my label was like,
you ain't gonna get a little Baby. We can get

(13:28):
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
But that's what I'm saying. But it was hard to
get him at that particular moment. And you got list though,
and she got her million dollars and she got her.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I did, but he wasn't hearing me. So then I
had to here.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, okay, So.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
He told Torri yes, and then we paid him. Obviously,
I don't know what his rate was. Back then he
was starting a two hundred occasions and I appreciate that.
And actually he gave me my first gold record. Nice
And I don't even know if you know that, but
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now. Is Mariah at this particular moment you're signed? Are
you in a relationship then?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't know. I think I was just doing my
thing back then.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
What is doing your thing mean? You know what women
mean by doing that thing.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I probably had a couple of boyfriends.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You were just entertaining the ol me.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I don't know if I can say about it, like
if my main relationship is not working out, I'm not
gonna like just like get rid of it. You know,
it can still be around, but it's just like, you know,
you just feel like, yeah, waters you know, like it

(14:36):
might not work out.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
So you were dating at that particular moment, I was dating?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yes, Okay, I probably was in that relationship. I don't know.
I don't remember that. I don't even I don't remember
any of that.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know, when the scorpion moves, she is a scorpio.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You know, we water sized, so you know, okay, hey,
y'all are crazy, Okay, y'all more crazier, you know, silent crazy, interesting.
I would like to do some research on it. Yeah,
go ahead, scientists, Okay, fireuarious air.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Water sign you're air, I am.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yes, but you're the water barrier.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
But you're.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I'm a scientist.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't believe idding what Rick Ross said. He said,
when girls get to ask, and you know, it's this time.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It's conversational.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
So my question to you is the reason why I
went personal because I know your personal life has your
You're human, so you have to have a personal life.
And now now that you are in a relationship with
somebody very very big, how does that affect your personal life.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
The way he's my personal life? You know, I put
a lot of priority on my relationship above like all,
because that's what is important to me. And like I
want to be married, I want to have a family,
you know, all that good stuff. So I feel like
I definitely prioritize that. But I mean, besides that and work,
like that's my life. How was it? What was your
initial thoughts, you know, getting with the man who already

(16:11):
has children. So before him, I always said I would
never date a man with kids. I always said that
I was just like not going for it, you know.
But I didn't like meet him with the intention of
dating him or like trying to holler at him or
anything like that and go into it with any assumptions,
you know. And then I found out, you know, cause
I have heard he had I had heard he had kids,

(16:33):
but I didn't know how many kids he had. I
didn't know like what the dynamic was. And then eventually
it was like, I have kids, so but it was
like it was okay. I mean I've met his kids,
you know, I met his children's mothers.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Were they receptive to you mostly?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
You know what I mean. Obviously it's like I feel
like with children, it's like you got to be careful
and stuff. You know, you don't want to introduce everybody
to your kids or to your children's mothers, you know.
So I feel like it was definitely a process. But
I mean I feel like it's all in the family now.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I mean, yeah, how are you able to maintain you know,
a strong relationship Now?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I feel like we talk a lot, which I'm grateful
for because when he first got locked up. It wasn't
like that. It was like they had him on a
strict like schedule with when he can use the phone,
when he can use the phone, and then eventually it's
like they developed a new schedule and they have like
a tablet's there, so you know he has more options

(17:30):
and like ways and accessibility to communicate. You know, it's
more accessible now, which is great.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
How did you guys end up meeting?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
He DM me, and he said something like no, Actually,
when I look back on it, I messaged him a
long time ago and said have birthday, but he didn't
see that. It's like years ago. And then he messaged
me again after that and said something like asked me,
was I signed? So I honestly, in my opinion, I
thought he was like trying to do some business. I
mean maybe that was like That's what I thought. So

(18:03):
and then eventually I made a song that I wanted
him on and then I was like, hey, I got
this song. I want you to get on it. He
was like okay. He never said send me to He
said send it to me, but he said when you
get back to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Pull up on me. And that was and that was
then he said pull up and then you met Jeffrey
and not you on thub.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And he was just like tall and he was just
like he was just like he stood on the other
side of the room, very calm. It wasn't like, you know,
aggressive energy. But then when we did talk that day,
he was like, I know that you want a song
for me. This is way bigger than a song though,
because I won't shoot.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
When you've seen him, were you initially attracted to him?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I just I was shocked.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Wait what was your answers?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
He asked me what I want you question? That's not question,
that's a statement. And I like that. But I feel
like he was just like so, I don't I don't
like saying intimidated. It wasn't that, but it was like
he was just like tall and he has like a
really like strong presence without really saying anything. So I

(19:18):
kind of was just like I was nervous. He made
me nervous.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
And he's Leo too.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
He is a Leo.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, he is absolute to that shut out to the Leos. Yes,
now what do we have coming out right now?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
To be eating Alive project?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's what she was gonna do with the with the scorpion.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
She's going to eat him alive.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
She's seen him the room. Can we can we talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Some songs on there are pretty old, as old as
maybe four years, and then there are some songs on
there that are as new as like four months old.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
So it was just like a working thing. And initially
I had like an idea for it, like I'm gonna
use this and that and that's gonna be And it
was like I was just like making stuff over time though,
and it just became like a compilation. You know, your
creativity is so good, Like I must commend you because
like the production of your records, you know, whoever vocal

(20:16):
arranges your stuff to your visuals, Like how much are
you a part of that process? And how do you
go about picking your producers? I am overly a part
of it, and I am a control freak.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So my art I don't know, because at a certain
point it's like too much, you know, it's too much
to do. It's like in the beginning, you can easily
be everything because you have the time for it, and
then eventually it's like you don't really have the time
for so much of it, so it's not necessarily compromise.
It just drives you more crazy, you know. But I
feel like with the beat thing, in the beginning, I

(20:52):
was always getting my beats so off YouTube. I still
get my beats off YouTube, but I am currently locked
out of my YouTube account. Why because it's attached to
my Gmail and so when you log in, the Gmail
has like this two factor thing and the phone that
is connected to I still have the number, but I

(21:12):
don't have the phone and I can't find the phone anywhere.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
So I mean I can resolve it by going to getting.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
New get a new phone, get a new phone, new
some card.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
And that's fine, but it's like who who wants to
do all that? And so I've been procrastinating, so I've
been locked out of.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
It for dude, really, okay, have an assistant.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I do not, and I think I need one.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah, I know you do.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I think I need one.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's ahead, go ahead, solicitate getting an assistant. That's your camera.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I'm not ready yet.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I don't want to have to be like, hey, but
you know what if I had an assistant. I think
the thing I will make them do most is go
get me.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Food, Is that the way to your heart?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I love food, but I'm kind of picky though.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
So we're young, thug takes you for your first date.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's a place called our NT's chop House. Chop house,
I think, and it's in like, yeah, I go to
food and that was like our first like one on one.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Did he win you over with that food and all
that or he had already wanted?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, okay, okay, I think we were in a relationship.
I know that sounds like, so you didn't go on
a date until after you got a relationship, but we
did everything after we got a relationship because he was
just adamant about that. Okay, fire, I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
What's your favorite song? Off to be eating a live?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I don't have a favorite. I love them all. I
love them all and I listened to it all the
time and I feel like it's my best work. I
just love it and I think now, So the difference
between like my previous projects and like where I'm at
now is like all of those projects I had music
before that I was willing to put on a project

(22:59):
and that was like I have I still have other
music obviously, but it's like I feel like my next
project will be from scratch, you know, instead of being
like like all new songs here. Yeah, Like I want
to just go to a studio, like I want to
start on it from scratch and see what happens, because
I never did that.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
So what are the fan favorites. I know some fans
been hitting you up like this is my favorite, it's
my favorite.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
They've been saying they really like different Pages and love Sick,
and I know they like Ride.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
With the.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I know it's got to be tough for you mentally
dealing with that that he's locked up right now?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
How do you It was way more sensitive about it.
I was like crying all the time. I was just
a hot mess.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Did you speak to somebody or I did?

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Not?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Therapist understands that. I don't feel like anybody understands that,
unless it's like somebody who's been through that. But obviously
I didn't know it was gonna take this song. And
I feel like I see a lot of people commenting
on it like just Beach Dormer's fuck and just and
that and blah blah. It's like she don't know how
long he gonna be in there? What is she doing?
And it's like, I feel like, if you found somebody
that you really want to be with, it's like, would

(24:06):
you just abandon them?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
So you actually read the comments and see the negative.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Comments, like sometimes you don't even have to read it
because it's just in your face, you know. So it's
not like you even have to go search. And it's
like I could log into Instagram and just it'll pop up,
you know, and it's like or they'll tell you in
it repeatedly and then eventually you see it. It's like,
but I feel like at this point, I've learned to
just like it's not about that, It's about me.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
How do you how do you cope with it?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Like what do you do? I do not miss a visitation?
For one.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Do you get to hug them when you you can't
touch them? So you can't touch them?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
No, it's okay. It's okay because I feel like it's
our relationship is pretty strong. And then obviously besides it,
I just have turned into like a real workout. If
I'm not at work, I do not leave the house.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
They probably have support groups for people who.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Go through Like I don't want to talk to anybody
about it, you know. It's like I don't want to
talk to them.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I like friends or anything. You don't have any friends,
but you got some people.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Like.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Maybe somebody like that, you know what.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yandy definitely could give you advice.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I thought about asking somebody about it, who Monica Yama.
I met her and she was really nice, But I
haven't asked her about it, but I probably would, you know.
But I don't know if I'm prepared for that conversation
because it's like, I don't know if it worked out
for her. So it's like I kind of just want
to just stay on my own path, you know, and

(25:31):
just like focus on it. But I feel like I
have a song on project where I'm talking about it
and it's called us that people really like that song,
but it's like I feel like I talk about it
a little more in depth, you know. But I mean,
it's just the way it is right now, and I
feel like I have accepted that that's the current state
of my relationship. That doesn't mean it's always going to
be like that, but it also means I don't know

(25:52):
the timeline on it.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Appreciate you sharing that, And I feel.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Like if Monica, it'll organically happen, you know, for them
to brace you, right, And she's really cool. The times
that I have spoken to her or like interacting with her,
she's been really nice. She used a scorpio.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, so she definitely understand I think so.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think she would.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Do you do you think that marriage is the next
step for you?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I mean when he gets out of jail. Yeah, yeah.
I don't think either of us want a jail wedding. Yeah,
but I do definitely. I feel like he definitely wants
to be married, and I feel like I do too.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Do you ever imagine life outside once he's out?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
For sure? You talking about all day, all day long.
I mean, I feel like being imaginative can help every
human being on earth not lose your mind.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
It is like a little slight state of delusion, it is,
But I feel like being in love making hard to
make a lot of really like touching music. You know,
people don't want to hear that happy stuff. They want
to hear like everybody wants to hear down Wall let

(27:05):
them Ryan, They you know they want to hear shit
like that.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, Well, they just want to hear stuff that you know,
people can relate to.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, I got some love songs on there though, and
I feel like they like it a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
We'll be right back with more of a Baller Alert show.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
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Speaker 1 (27:29):
Been writing a scientists and I would love if you
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and feel free to share your opinion in the comments.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I all know about y'all. It's like when I listen
to R and B, like I want to hear the
sad song.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I'm glad that you talk about this. Let me ask
you something, Okay, what does R and B mean to you?
Not rhythm and blues? I mean, like, what defines R
and B to you?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
What defines R and B to me? I think R
and B is so I think R and B is
is something that brings.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
What does that mean? Is that something that is kind
of is about the lyrics, is about the sound.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
That's really hard. I think I know where you're going
with this. I think I've seen this on the internet.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Because actually, I'm glad that you just said that, because
I would like to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. I
think R and B rap is a form of music.
R and B is for people who can sing and
express themselves through that space. I don't think it's different
from rap. Well, it's different from rap because one of
some people are rapping and then some people are singing.
But the emotion is the same whether you're rapping or saying.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Like it's like a lyrical thing mixed with them.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, because it is a passion you felt, you felt
the way you may have a slow R and B
sad song. I can have a rap sad song too.
You could have the same emotion. I just that person
can't sing. This person can. I do think R and
B is more of a beautiful experience because it sounds
and it soon as you it sues you better than

(28:57):
me hearing.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
The audio and just the difference.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
But I feel like you want to say something you
listening right, Okay. I did an interview Complex and they
asked me something about genre, and I said, if I
could coin the term of a new genre, it would
be A and B and it will be a mix
between alternative and R and B. Now, A and B,
that's what I said. Now in hindsight, it's a spectrum

(29:24):
in my opinion, Okay, it's a spectrum. I felt like
my comparison in that interview was if Lnadel Ray, who
was talking about touching and soulful concepts or you know,
like points of whatever. It's like her music is considered alternative,
but like somebody else who makes something similar to that
is considered R and B or like soul neo soul,

(29:47):
this and that, blah blah blah. It's like, what really
is a definitive factor?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Now?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Let me pull my phone out on this project. Let
me pull it up, me pull it up.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, you've been ready to drop these facts.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I just know because I was just listen to a
lot of music, you know, and I do, I really do,
and I and I'll be paying attention to like what
is why do they categorize it as such and such
A I feel like it's like, I'm gonna be honest,
I feel like it's discriminatory.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
It is if you're black and you're singing it's R
and B and.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
It's like and it's no problem with having a If
you want to say this is a category that black
people fall into because black people got the opportunity to
tell their story through this avenue, that's fine. Just say
that that's what it is. But don't say it's because
it's something else, but.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
That's but that's how it is today. It wasn't like that.
Like John B back in the day was considered R
and B.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And that is I feel like this.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Version that's actually that's actually it's actually blue Eyes.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
So so is it R and B? Is it something else?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Let's see what your definition? What you got?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
You've heard the song of Okay, now let me play
you this other song. The production is similar, the lyricism,
it's similar. Cindy Lauper's music is considered when you go
to her and you go to her projects pop. For example,

(31:17):
Diana Ross music is considered R and B. Every single
project on our music it's categorized Army who was a
Sindy law Ferson too. Let's see, that's a good question.
Let's see do you know no, but.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I'm guessing if it's like one of the Big four,
that is why it's pop.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
If because compared to you, you got Atlantic compared to Motown,
Black and White.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, and understood though I understood the point.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
The point is like when they put up music out
and it's like this is considered such and such. It's
like they have this big, huge, platform and all these
other apps.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
They get more radio played, they get more awards.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Suddenly it's like this is R and B and we
we and this, this is it. This is the one
category for us circle and I just feel like that's
just even like a lot of Diana Ross's own music
has similar structure sonically to Michael Jackson's music. He's considered
king of pop pop? That's it. Why is some music
R and B?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
And I feel like it's a marketing tool too. I
feel like when people label something that's pop, that's a
marketing tool. And people would label something as R and
B is and.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Not only that, not to cut you off, but Michael
he was also signed to Columbia, I believe forever.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Sony, You're right, it was Sony since ninety one.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
He was signed.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yes, Sony, do get your point of what you were saying.
There are categories that people will say and I don't
even know who are the people selecting this and saying
let's put that there. Who are that?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
And it got people with.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
The most money they up on the internet when I
said that, and it was like I feel like people
thought I was discredited R and B and R and
B is like you know, it has opened a lot
of different avenues for black people and this and that,
and it's like, that's not what I'm I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is they're snubbing us, of course.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
But I think the reason why people is probably coming
at you on the internet because you said I want
to create a genre, and people are considering your music
in a certain genre. I feel like people kind of
look at that. It's like, you know, you know how
people on the internet, if you say anything against the
grain on the Internet, it's like.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's outside of the norm. So it's right there, you
got familiar. So they was like, she don't know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
The people who are making those opinions about whether or
not they feel like my music is R and B
and I it's like, I can guarantee you they have
not listened to my entire musical catalog. You just haven't.
For example, her last project, like sure some of it
is R and B, but like a lot of that
was all turned to do and I just it's considered
R and B off top. It's like why for like

(33:46):
Grammy nominations or like any any nomination or major award
show it's like all the black singers are in one category,
and then it's like all the white singers are like
spread out. It's white singers in black categories. But it's
not the other way. It's it's like that board. I
can't remember the last of this conversation. To have it longer,

(34:07):
because like, you have to come back and talk about this,
like I'm glad that that y'all were willing to know.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I want to have it, like I hope you had
a good time, because we need you to come back.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I haven't. I would for sure you will.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
You will, you will come back, you will.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
We need more conversations like this because this is this
is really important because I feel like a lot of times,
you know, artists, you guys do interviews and then y'all,
y'all don't get to really express in detail on what
you really mean by what you say.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's like us, we're we're black podcast, but you know
a lot of the big issues.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, people they rather go to like white podcasts, you
know what I'm saying, to give them, And.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That's another thing I feel like, even like with a
black podcast, it's almost like black podcasts are prolific with
black people it's like for a white podcast, it's like
they spread it out and make sure you see it everywhere.
It's like, I feel like they'd be doing that shit
on purpose. But then you have somebody like iHeart or
like somebody that really gives you the platform to like
be spread out and then.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
We had to fight for But why does anything have
to be black nowadays?

Speaker 4 (35:12):
It's like that's just that's just the way of the world.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But because even but even to go back in my
last point about this is, you know, even in Motown
and all these other people, you the goal and back
in those times were to get a crossover record so
that you can make more money and you can get
to a wider audience and you can go pop.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You don't want to stay in the ardila.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
What does crossover mean? Is it the change in lyrics,
because like, for example, they're now using Jess lyrics against
him in court. Now, this is why this is absurds me.
Ask anybody whose main music. This is what they was saying.
They were saying when you read a lyric, or you
you were cite a lyric, that means you're adopting the
significance of the statement. You you're you're living by it,
you're dying by it. What you're saying when us you're

(35:55):
saying confessions. Everybody thought he had a baby on the way.
Did he cheat on his girlfriend at the time? Sure
he did, But does that mean that the song he
was singing was about it?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
But wait, wait now cheating on his particular and it's
about the record.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And the crossover comes from the producer the songwriter, because
that's why a lot of these people get what works.
That's working. Let's keep making that. Let's keep signing people
that do do the same thing so that we can
get those records. And I just wonder, like when they
say crossover, does it just mean that you have now
stripped the song of lyrics that other people can understand,
you have assover?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Is you erase the line you have wide audience.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Everybody and doing that?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
What exactly? What is what is the basis or template
forgetting that?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Is it just because you have template? I don't think
it's so.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's the like I said, it's the whoever the hottest
producer is right now, whoever is the hottest songwriter, who
who has those songs?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
They can give you that type of song.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
About This is what cross you Over. I do think
that that also, so it determines a real hit record
because if everyone likes it and not just a particular
group of fans, if it goes everywhere and it spreads everywhere,
that's how you know you have a bona fidy Charles
Georgia on My Mind crossover record.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Do you feel like now the way or the trajectory
to get something like that has been compromised for the
sense of when you put a song out, it's almost
like it's not like selling records on the shelf right.
You don't have to actively go and purchase this. But
it's like if TikTok says it's a thing, now it's
a crossover record.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
TikTok is just one is its own little bubble now.
It used to be like that, but I just think
it's changing to a point where it's like its own
bubble because they have TikTok Billboard chart.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I had a song go viral on TikTok. It wasn't
just TikTok. They were listening to the song everywhere spread.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I just think that that means it's a hit record everywhere,
not just TikTok.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Okay, but TikTok put it there. What I'm saying, it's
a lot of records like that, it's a lot of
records that could be cidered could be considered a hit record,
but it hasn't made it to the platform of exposure.
You haven't made it to It's not like when it's
being sold on a shelf and target or wherever. It's
not like that.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I could say, I give, I can do another examples
where it'll blow up on TikTok and it don't blow
up nowhere else.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I feel like there is I think TikTok starts
the conversation does exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
But see, you make great music, so it's gonna blow
up on TikTok regardless, because you're gonna blow up in
other places outside of TikTok.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Well, what I'm saying is there are a lot of
people that make great music. I know for sure, I'm
not the only one. However, if TikTok, and I don't
want to only say TikTok, but you know, maybe in
other places I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Know where, we know.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
That it's gonna go up. It don't even have to
be like you know, for example, there's a lot of
people who would say, who would argue And I'm not
giving my opinion on this one way or another. There
are lot of people who will argue that I Spice
Me is a particular genre of okay, but a lot
of people will not argue that A lot of It's
definitely controversial there. But it's like if TikTok decides it

(39:10):
it's a hit, you know, well.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It'll get you in the door.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
But in order for you, but in order for you
to cross over or to get that mainstream attention, is
it's going to take that conversation to get a label
behind you.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
You need to suspend it that you need them, you
need the promotion, you need them.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
When my song went viral on this song has went
platinum in a span of less than a year. The
song went platinum when that song went viral on TikTok,
I was getting out of my deal. They put no
money behind that, zero dollars. They did not support that
in any capacity.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
But if they did, but they did, it'll be big.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
They didn't, it would have been but they didn't. But
in order to get that record, they would have to
have pushed it because it would have been had all
I'm saying I mean, well, I can put out a
TikTok hick too, but I ain't you. I do feel
like if you have the resources to support and sustain
something like that, you can be huge.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
But he just get a hit record. He just went
three million. He just went viral on TikTok. He just
did three million views on one clip. But that's bt.
He doesn't put out music.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
But guess what if he did. I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I think people don't take I think people don't take this.
I think I think you're right.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
I think TikTok does push the music, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But do people take TikTok record seriously?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
No, don't be mad at us.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
No, I don't think people say TikTok serious.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I feel like, begin with, but guess what the ship
is streaming?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
No, it's not dope. Artists are doper on. You said,
have you had the experience of like a massive hit record?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I would say no, me personally, I have not? Right, yes, right,
So I feel like once you have that experience, I
think the conversation you'll have a more insight on it
and you could tell us. But here's my thing, Drake,
and nicely, what the label that he has. He's been
with them for a long time, right, and they have
withstood the time, I mean the test of time. They

(41:12):
were there in the moments of selling records on the shelf,
they have been there after the Tiktac shit, you know.
If I'm not the second that's Republic. Republic also has
coiler Ray, they have nigm Nas. They are very have
a very integrated system with that side of the internet.
A lot of labels I do not feel like have
fully comprehended it at this point. I don't feel feel

(41:32):
like they fully comprehend. But what I'm saying is they
support him. They've already they know what it takes to
take a Drake record, regardless from scratch and put it
in a place for it to be number one no
matter what. That doesn't mean that everybody feels like it's
a hit. That doesn't mean like, you know, it just
means that he's already established. He's already established for sure now.

(41:55):
But there is a break. To me, there's a splitting
time where it went from that traditional to this ship,
you know, And I just feel like now I do
feel like TikTok can give you the platform.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Agreed, could we just interviewed the g Way girls. Well
famous salary, but it got them in the door.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
It is their job now to make something headphone, but
it's their job now to to come with something.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
That's why I say you're different because you have a
body of work to support ktokt a fan.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Base before that. I'm gonna be honest with you. If
my song just like went up and I didn't have
that and it's and I also feel like artists who
don't have that underneath them kind of like the you know,
the foundation to that, I feel like it'll fall through.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Yeah, because if you don't, if you don't have the foundation,
then it doesn't matter having a big record on social
media if you don't have anything to support that. The
good thing with you is you actually have a fan
base like women, me and everybody.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
You could see what sticks to the wall like you could.
You could try and keep trying to see what sticks
to the wall. A lot of people don't have that,
But like I said, TikTok will at least give you
the conversation.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
It's up to the artists to make a hit record.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, I don't know. It's a little bit of sweet though,
still because It's like some people will come to my
shows now and it's like they met me at that song.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
That. I don't dislike it, you know, but it's like
it was more intimate when they knew every song and everywhere,
which I still do, you know, which I honestly, the
one thing I'm most grateful for is like when I
go to my shows or people will send my shows,
I know for sure that it's not like they know
this one song and they only know the words of
this song, and I feel like I see that a lot.
But I feel like in my shows, they know every song,

(43:44):
and I'm you know, that's maybe what I'm most grateful
for that they have like they're invested in it, you know,
in me, and that's nice.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
You gotta come back. Listen. I'm gonna braak some I'm
gonna break some real R and B heads in here.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I'm gonna make some calls. You know, I'm talking about
Grammy Award winning our R and B producers. I'm a brand.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
You have you guys, some R and B worker.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
It's some people.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'm gonna say, tell me, we gonna have rappens.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
We gotta go tell Maria aside is that it started
at one o'clock and it's really gonna be it two.
Don't don't.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
You holding up? Don't tell Marida side before we get
out of here.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
We do have a pep talk.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Hello everyone, my name is Marita Scientists, and there's gonna
be a lot of people who can tell you or
we'll tell you that you can't do it, but you're
gonna tell them that you can't.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
We'll be right back. Stay tuned with more of the
Baller Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of
The Baller Alert Show.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
If you're a real baller, you need to be thinking
of big bitch.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I'm not talking about no thank a real baller. That's
it's time to get your stuff together because real ballers
get their stuff together, they get their finances together, they
get their credit together, they get their money together.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
So if you are a real baller right now.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Y'all need to be top ten. I'm just saying, bitch.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Back with more the ba BLA.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I hope y'all enjoyed that Mariah the Scientistists.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
She was so much fun and that conversation is to
be continued because she will.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yes, But our next guest has authored over ten e books,
mentored over a thousand students, coached over two hundred students,
won the one hundred K in a Day Award, and
did a Ted talk y'all Getting Money child with an
estimated sales track record of one point five million.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
You better say it?

Speaker 4 (45:48):
How much should I say that?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
We had?

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Over three?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Over three?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Well, you have accomplished a great deal. He is not
only a military veteran, but you are all so a
father too. When you were right here with us telling
everybody to think big on THEHP.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Durin de Levante heylme you came here, smell it like money,
Malmo money. I'm like, oh my god, Now can you
can you kind of start from the beginning exactly, so
for someone that's just seeing your face for the first time,
what exactly do you do?

Speaker 5 (46:27):
All right? So you asked two different questions, just said,
start from the beginning and then what do I do?
So two parts beginning. I'm from Jamaica. I'm not from here.
I wasn't born here. I came here when I was
twenty years old. I left everything that I knew in
Jamaica and I decided I'm going to take a chance
on me. So I left my mom my, sisters, everybody
back home. Came to a complete foreign country with no family, nothing,

(46:50):
just just just the hopes and aspiration that yo, I'm
gonna figure this out. So left there, went to dairy
queen was working making seven twenty five in an hour.
I thought I was killing it.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
They got some ice creamer Bro, that's flame burger my favorite.
I just talked past day queen, like the ice cream
fire is fire.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
No.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Back in the day, my favorite was a peanut buster Parfe.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
That one was good.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
It's so complicated to make that perfect. It is Bro,
the soft serve. It works. It was great.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
And then left New Hampshire, come to New York. No
family in New York. I got my note, I got
my godfather's number right, and my godfather said, yes, come
to New York. We'll figure it out. Went to New York,
moved out. About a year later. I needed to do
my own thing. Got a job at five guys Now
making eighty twenty five fifty cents an hour, and I

(47:45):
was the best fry cook on the line. I don't
care what nobody said. Them fries were coming up great
than Cajun fries were phenomenal, right, nineteen times it had
to shake the basket.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I was good, right, So.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Fast forward, joined the military. Fast forward a few more years.
Now deployed, but still knew nothing about credit. And for
those of you that are seeing me and hear my
voice for the first time, my name is the Rain Delavante.
I'm your favorite consumer law expert. I teach people how
to repair, rebuild, restore their own credit using consumer laws.

(48:17):
I also educate and teach credit repair professionals how to
grow and scale their credit repair business using four key
principles lead generation, lead conversion, client, ascension, and continuity. Implementing
those four can scale any business one twenty eight percent
off the rip.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Question where did you learn this?

Speaker 5 (48:37):
I'm self educated. I got a high school diplumber everything
that I know now, but.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
They don't teach the taxes and stuff like that, or
are credit. So how did you How did you do it?

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Did you go on to denied for anything? Yeah? So,
the frustration of not being able to do what you
want when you want it can lead to one of
two things. It can lead to a solution where you
figure it out for yourself, or you just lay down
and become a victim, just like everybody else. So I
chose to solve my own problem educate. So I educated myself,

(49:10):
paid for masterminds, paid for mentorships, and no, I'm the
best at consumla.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So in order to get that the money to fund
you know, your education on like you said, paying for
mentorship and paying for all that stuff, how did you
get that? Was it the military checks that were doing that?
Where where did the military come in at?

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Okay? So the military came in at it was supplying
me for I've been in the military now on twelve
eleven years, right, six of which I was active duty,
and I drank the kool aid where I was in
the forty forty forty club. Well, in the military, it
would be the twenty twenty twenty club. So the twenty years, right,

(49:53):
do the military for twenty years retire, go get a
go get a house or a white picket. Fans use
the VA home, loan all of that great stuff. Drank
the whole kool aid, right, and then you find out
that the kool aid is actually what going to keep
a lot of people broke, especially a lot of people
in the military, because now they push use the VA
home loan. There's nothing wrong with using the VA home loan, right,

(50:16):
But you're going into a house with no equity because
it's zero down already, you're at a disadvantage. There's no
equity in there, and you're getting a primary residence who's
paying for it, not tenants, you are unless you get
a multifamily. That's where it comes in where it can
be beneficial to get a two, three or a four unit,
or you can get a four unit with a commercial space.

(50:38):
That's where it caps at.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right. So if you're doing that, you can benefit from it.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
But they're not teaching you that part. They're telling you
to go get a home. They're not telling you go
get a house. Go get a home. When you think home,
you think family, dog, whatever, Right, you're not thinking about investment.
But that's what keeps the news around. People's that financially
and it also happens with a lot of entertainers, artists,

(51:06):
everybody you can think of. Wrong education.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I didn't learn this until I bought my own home
and I saw, wait, I saw my equity in my house.
My house was almost double what I paid for it,
and I kept saying, damn, I could have did this
and not living it and then charge on to I
just kept saying in my brain, Wow, I didn't understand it.
And then when they if they build around the property
like commercial space, it makes your property V I'm not.

(51:31):
I didn't learn any of this until I bought a home.
I didn't learn about conventional loan or non conventional loan
and v a loan. I didn't know about none of
this until I bought a home because I wasn't educated
on it.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Amazing it is, but it's designed that way, like don't
hate the game, you just learn how to kind of
do it.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Kind of made me mad because I was just like, damn,
why didn't anybody tell me about this? Because they don't
want They don't want us to know, but not saying you,
but who is they?

Speaker 5 (52:02):
All right, so let's think of who runs America. You
have to go back that far. Who owns this country? Yeah,
that's the question you need. Who made the education system?
And here you all know, no, John D. Rockefeller the
biggest oil mogul in the history of America, right, his.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Biggest oil oil correct?

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Correct? Yeah, so he wasn't creating the educational system for freelancing,
free enterprise and entrepreneurship. He needed workers his factories and
oil rigs. Now they were going so fast. And his
friends were Henry Ford Edison, Andrew Carnegie, Woodroff Wilson, the Rothschilds,

(52:48):
all of these people right there. They're not looking for
independent thinkers. They want people that can fall in line
and go work. So what they did they gave them
these retirement plans. This is where the idea was birth
for the forty forty Club. And then they went and
changed the whole educational system to produce workers. What's the mantra,

(53:11):
Go to school, get a job, retire off of twenty percent,
get a house and a dog with a white picket fence.
And then you go to school and get a job.
And then you pay fifty to one hundred thousand dollars
to get a degree. And then now you're making thirty
five thousand with that degree if you're lucky, if somebody

(53:31):
hires you, right, and then now you are stuck with
a student loan for the rest of your life today.
And then you get a mortgage, right, you get a house.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
It's a thirty year loan, twenty or whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
In the first five to ten years off that mortgage.
Most of the money that you're paying is going towards
the interest, the interest, the principle.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
But then what happens after seven to eight years, you're
gonna tell you, oh, refinance, we're gonna drop it one
percent and you can save on it. But you just
resetted the whole thing. With the first five to eight
years of that refinance, it's going right.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Back to interest.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
So by the time you're ten or fifteen years in
half the mortgages, the mortgage should have already been paid off,
but you paid all that to interest, correct, and very
little went to principle. Correct.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
But every time you.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Refinance, you're restarting that whole five to take. It's not
designed for you to win. And if you don't escape
the rat race, or if you don't get out of
the rat race and want more, you will not escape
the rat race until you decide that you want more.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Same thing with cars. Correct.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Yeah, when you say I want more, your mind starts
to say, yo, this is not it. Twenty nineteen, when
I was sick and tired because I was just broke,
busted and disgusted, and I was sick and tired of
just not being able to do what I want to
do right. I was a victim of subprime lending where
when I attempted to get a car, my first A

(55:00):
two thousand and seven is an Utima in twenty thirteen,
I couldn't get approofd for it because my credit was
so bad. He had seventy five thousand miles and I
still couldn't get approved.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
I had to get a co signer, right. But I
didn't know that I was putting my friend in such
a situation where I didn't know what co signer meant
at the time. So I if I say I'm not
gonna pay, they're gonna call my boy. That's the predicament
I put him in. And I didn't know. And there's
a lot of people that's co signing for people right

(55:33):
now that's putting them in these predicaments and they don't
know what they're doing. You want to be a good friend,
or they know you're just a great person, and they
know if you're the great person in the family that
has somewhat good credit, you're the one who's always standing
in security for them. And then you go to help John,
Mary and everybody, and before you know it, they start
defaulting everybody's coming back to you because when they pulled

(55:57):
your report, they see that you have a government job
or you have a stable job where you're making sixty
to eighty thousand a year. So instead of going after
your cousin, that's the primary no that'd beat anyway, We're
going to come after you because more than likely you
got the money to pay. So when I learned all
of this, I started reading my first book that I

(56:17):
read front to back, Rich Dad, Poor at and the
first thing that stood out to me in that book
was the rich don't work for money. They have money
work for them. And we had the system all backward.
We were taught to go and prostitute or time for money.
So we go trade all of our precious time for
a little bit of somebody's money. Time the most precious

(56:38):
thing you can never ever get back, and we use
it so nonchalantly and give it away to people that
don't even deserve it. So when I recognize this, the
shift's demanding. The military is one of the biggest time
waststerres on the planet. You will be called up at
four to report for seven o'clock, and then the mission
don't start till one, and you just wait six hours

(57:01):
doing nothing. So my mind started to change, so the
programming got deleted. The old me had to die for
the new me to be born. So when I started
learning this, I started teaching everybody in the military. And
first thing you're gonna hear, oh, you know credit?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Nobody has time for that. This mission is more important.
Go do this, Go to Kuwait, go to Jordan. That's
what everybody's saying. No one knew, So let me ask
you what's on your credit? Oh, I don't know. I've
never even seen my credit report. These are the type
of responses I'm getting. And you would think there is
no for you to be a thought leader. The military

(57:41):
is not where you're supposed to be. The military is
you're supposed to take orders, just do what we say.
Don't think you're not supposed to be a thinker. Right,
So the person that I'm becoming, that programming didn't fit anymore.
So after I read the books and I decided that
it's time for me to make a change in my

(58:02):
own life. I repaired my own credit in six months.
So I went to Kuwait with a five h four
credit score. I came out with a ten. I fixed
it in six months.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Right.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
So then I'm like, wow, I got funding. I got
credit cards now, Navy, Federal twenty five thousand. I'm getting
all of these credit cards. Right. But I learned from
the books with Robert Kiyosaki and all the books that
I was reading that when you have this money, don't
go out and blow it.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
So I was just chilled.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Now I'm not about to repeat past events because I
went on deployment negative fifteen thousand with credit card that
I used a snowball method to pay it off. But
that's something I learned in the book. The book was
ten dollars. But if you want to hide something from
a person, put it in a book. How much are

(58:52):
people willing to bet on themselves to be the change
that they look for? You See, it's easy to blame
you and say the white man held me down or
this person held me down because I don't know. But
when do we take responsibility for own education. I wasn't
born here. I wasn't blessed the way you guys are.
I was running around in Jamaica with beer foot shorts

(59:13):
with holes in it, playing marbles. I wasn't blessed the
way you guys are here in a system that has
credit where if you will, if you have nothing, you
can leverage credit to become something. I didn't know any
of this.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
A lot of people here don't know that either.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
That's the problem because I'm saying I didn't notice until
I became like an older man, I was just like
I hadn't. I literally did not know the usefulness of this.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah, but what are they pushing inside of these schools?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
And that's that they're pushing you to go to college,
get a college degree.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
And like you said, but now you're pushing something.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah, what's this challenge that you have?

Speaker 5 (59:52):
So I'm the challenge is actually going on right now. Right,
So basically I do challenges every month, right, it's this
letter challenge. So what I do is, on this challenge,
I'll get hundreds of people and I'll walk them through
the framework of deleting different items on their credit using
consumer laws. It's not a secret. These laws were here

(01:00:13):
before I got off the plane from Jamaica. Everything that
I'm using is here. It's been here, But I found
it because I was tired of being denied. And when
you were sick and tired of being sick and tired.
You're going to either be a victim or you solve
your own problem. I am a solution orientated person, so
I started learning consumer laws and I knew now that

(01:00:36):
I literally have the power to delete anything. So on
my five day Challenges, what I do is I teach
people how to get rid of bankruptcies, how to get
rid of charge offs, collections, student loans, any item on
your credit, any account on your credit can be deleted.
Late payments. Over one hundred million people within the last

(01:00:57):
three to six months have late payments. That's a lot people.
What does late payments lead to higher interest rates?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Yeah? And then one hundred and sixty five million to
one hundred and ninety million off the population of three
hundred and thirty four million are living paycheck to paycheck.
What do we know about people that live paycheck to paycheck.
They can't afford anything, and now they're rubbing Peter to
pay Paul. Because inflation is going up, prices are going up,
but wages are the same, so the cost of living

(01:01:25):
is more. So now I have to choose do I
pay this credit card or do I feed my kid.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I'm not gonna pay a credit card. You're not feed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
You're not I'm going to feed my child.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
So how can people sign up for this?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Is challenge to do? So the challenge.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Now, all they got to do is text the word challenge.
So once they text me the word challenge, or go
on my Instagram at drain delavante d A r A
I n E d E l E v A n
t e. Once they go to my Instagram, everything is there.
Go on YouTube. My free content on YouTube is better
than people's paid content. Late payment is a thing of

(01:02:00):
the past, and one hundred million plus people don't need
to suffer from it when all they need to do
is learn how to get it deleted.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
What's on YouTube?

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Drain deliver every I made it, Everything's drained de I just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Want you to keep saying it so people A R A.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
V A n t E.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
It's it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
But you see nine out of every ten people that's
hearing this right now, they're still going to sit on
their hands and take no action on their own life.
They're going to remain stuck like trucking the pickup truck
and they wonder why they're not moving forward. You have
to like new life comes from a new mind, and
people want to move forward into a future still thinking

(01:02:40):
in their past. It don't work like that. A new
mind gives new life. The old you must die for
the new you to live. You cannot feed both.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
And that's why we created I Think Big.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
This segment is so important for people like yourself, who's
trying to give people the opportunity to think bigger than
what they already know. You know, So we appreciate you
for coming through and you know, dropping that knowledge. And
I hope everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Takes this seriously and goes to your YouTube. Can you
say one more time?

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Durin de Levante. So that's d A r A I
n E d E L E v A n t E.
That's YouTube, that's Facebook, that's Instagram. The information is there,
but until a person is willing to take action for themselves,
they will remain a victim of society.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
And so the stop scrolling on a TikTok, stop scrolling
on Facebook. And sometimes but.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
After you get stuck, you'd be like, damn, I didn't
think a programming. This is why it took so long
for you to learn this. You're not supposed to learn this.
You're supposed to be ignorant to that information. So when
you come out and you wrap these dead stuff as
an adult. No, it's time for you to work. You're
looking to start a family, you're looking to settle into
a career. Now they have you financially. It's slavery. It's

(01:04:01):
just a different type of slavery.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
So you think you balling, but you really really not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Listen, man, we will talk off camera. Does it cost
anything to do the challenge or anything like that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Yes, So the challenge is if anyone is coming in
on any other challenges, the lowest ticket is ninety seven dollars,
and we have VIP which is two ninety seven, and
then there's an Ultra. It gives one on one laser
Q and a question in strategy and everything for like
seven forty seven or something like that. And for anybody

(01:04:33):
right now that's saying ninety seven dollars is too much,
go to my YouTube channel. I am positive and I
can bid anything right now that you will learn stuff
on my YouTube channel which will get you ahead. And
the key thing is get ahead. But until someone decides
to take action on their life, until you decide to
take action, you will forever be stuck where you.

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