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August 21, 2025 38 mins

Episode 402 "Giveon" Feat: Ferrari Simmons & You Know BT Produced by: Baller Alert

Topics Include: Songwriting, R&B Music, Mental Health, Past Jobs, Celebrity Encounters

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They get a little they called me.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Broadcasts a lot from the Nagel Law Firm Studios. The
Ball Alert Show, brought to you by Revote.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I go by the name for.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I go by the name. You know, b team, Give
me out of the building.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to the show, My brother.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Man?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Man? Looking like you're about to perform right now?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Man, I left my boots at home, not me. Got
wine on?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Now? How you doing? Brothers?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I feel good. I haven't been there in a minute. Yes,
it's it's just cold in l A at night. That's
that's why. So this ain't I.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Don't like that.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
No, this is hot.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
No, I ain't gonna lie like that. It's hot cold
at night, hot during the day.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
That's you'll know how to how to operate. You don't
know how to sweater and shorts.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Come on, bro, that's that's that's that's a good combination.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Keep a keep a wet keep keep a sweater in
the car.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Nah all you got to keep the sweater on you
because when the sun goes down, I.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Gonna get a little cold outside. See he made the mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
When we was at BT, I say, hey, man, it's
la it's gonna get cold at night.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
He thinking. We in Atlanta, so he wearing all this
shorts and all this stuff. He's like, oh man, it's cold.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I said, I told you got it started getting cold
around seven though.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Nah, it's crazy, y'all. Just out well.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We had some industry stuff to do, so we were
doing we were in the media house, the BT Media House,
doing ball over and then it just went into some food.
And now it's seven thirty eight o'clock. You know, the
sun start going.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
To the hotel. I'm over here, like, damn, it's cold.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, it couldn't have been too cold though.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Right from West Palm Beach, Florida. Bro Oh yeah, don't
get cold. It's stinky out there though.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And then you know, I've been in Atlanta for a while.
I just don't like cold weather period.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
And that's funny. We see you at the Media House.
You flew in like Batman and then flew out.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, we said, you've got like two seconds, two seconds.
I was this this let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's so funny story before we even start. Heartbreak Anniversary, right,
it's one of my favorite songs. I'm getting married. I'm
talking to my DJ for the wedding. It was like,
it was like, what songs you want to hear. I
was like, I want to hear Heartbreak Anniversity.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Everybody was like, bro, what it's not a wedding song.
I was like I like the song though, so I
went over with my wife.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
When you know, we was engaged at the time. I
was like, I want to hear Heartbreak Anniversary.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Was like, no, bad, So we still played it at
the end.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Of the Yeah, but that's really I was like, songs,
good music, good music, good.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Music, good music, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
But the lyrics, yeah, he was getting married.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I let the lyrics up. I was like, yeah, this
is not a wedding song.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
That's for divorce. Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I wanted to hear.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
What I like, that's all you know, because I was drunk.
Oh you get drunk or your wedding, that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
One more groomsman.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It was lit.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I had Pastor Troy performed at my.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Web perform Yeah, like a from the.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
South, Bro, my wife is from Georgia. No, he's not
a real pastor. He's a rapper pastor.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's what you sounds like, don't play.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I don't know Pastor.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Troy Man Pastor Troy is like old boy that passed away. Man,
he passed away.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Mac dra the rapperm messing up. Yeah you left.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's a it's a.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's a.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's a rapper from the West Coast that passed away.
But he has some hits.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yes, I mean it's come back, not looking like that.
T C and Race and everybody on the other side.
The whole team is like, anyway, we got a real ratchet.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
At my wed. I thought he was in the preaching No, no,
no his name.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
He was in the rapping.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You get time google past.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
I mean, I gotta, I gotta after this. I'm gonna
do my whole.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
You're gonna go down a rabbit hole and it's gonna
be like.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
But you was talking about you knew the yun ain't twins.
You said you used to listen to the n My
mom would play whisper. So yeah, I was a kid,
and I was just like, but I di ain't know
what they was talking about. I didn't even know either
until I got older. And when he said wait to see,
I said, oh, yeah, listen to this.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
See what.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I was just like, hey, wait t see my head
because we should be playing the clean version.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Like that's all I remember. I see that on the
radio all the.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Time, made fun records. But now that I'm understanding, it
was called action.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
The verses was called action. The hook is called action.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
They was at Sea World percolating? Who was You didn't
see them at Sea World? They was let's start an interview, bro,
my pastor Troys got so Pastor Troy.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
We read You're gonna be like you performed in my
wedding reception. It was crazy, it was drunk, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Pass wedding. It's percolating. I'm trying to writing it down.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Is your name giveon Yeah, that's your real that's on
your driver's license, government name. My mom give it to me,
she says.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I mean fact, She says.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
She wanted me to be a given person.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Are you a given person?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Especially to like my family, my homies, friends. I'm a
gifter when I'm dating some people going now, you.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Know on the side they call that trick.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
On your girl. Yeah, no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
If you if you know a lot in the beginning,
my boy, it's a lot like because you trick later.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
You don't trick in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
But you're married.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, when I like you for real, that's when you
start oh yeah, boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Booms with a girlfriend. Okay, like, hey you my girlfriend.
Here's some this or some that. But I like it
as like like a surprise too. Though it's not.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like you said surprise, Yeah that's my.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Like I come home from somewhere.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
But she got to spend on YouTube though, right, I mean, yeah,
I've been spent on before, but it's like I don't.
It's not a requirement. I've been. I've been, but that's
what I'm trouble.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
But that's that's what makes it like, Okay, yeah, you
actually like me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Because my wife took me the Hawaii mm hmm. That's
what I was like, Yeah, I really love you.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Like no one's ever boyfriend and girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yes, his boyfriend and girlfriend. She was like, man, let
go to Hawaii.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
I was like, all right, whatever, next thing, I know,
I get a ticket notification.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Hard to accept it or were You're just like.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I was still. It took a while and we were
gone for five days.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I remember, I say, I said, your girl got money.
My girl like you.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
But but I said your girl got money because you.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Know, I behave like this is the first woman I behave.
I don't do nothing. How long y'all been there that
nine years?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Hey man? We interviewing you.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Man, I was just saying, look, let's get back to it.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know what. You know what it is.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
He doesn't do interviews, right, so he's not used to
having to answer all the question so he used to
You probably used.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
To ask people, Yeah, you know what, let's go to commercial.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
When we come back, we're going to actually start the interview.
Give you on in the Building Baller Show.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
On Revolt That's right, and we are back right here
to bat Alert Show on Revolt TV. Give you on
is in the Building? I promise you how the interviews
starts now.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Now, would you say your contemporary R and B?

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean, but I like to use the term
rhythm and blues because sometimes R and B it feels
like it's describing a certain sector and soul gets left out,
like the Teddies, the Luther Vandraws, the the al Greens,
the more soulful classic acts from the seventies. So I'll

(08:21):
say I'm contemporary rhythm and blues contemporary soul.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Do you feel like R and B is what rhythm
and blues is back?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I don't think you're left, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I feel like anytime I'm here is is here because
I take the I take the space really serious. I'm
not if you hear a body away from me, you know,
there's a lot of effort put into it, and there's
an effort to elevate the sound in general. That's why
my newest album, Beloved, I'm like, I want to make

(08:52):
it to a point where no one can drop anything
less than this, So I'm raising the standard.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Is that why you don't drop as often as your
fans will want?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yes, Well, it's a couple of reasons. So the main
one is all my music is autobiographical, so I'm writing
based on life as it happens. So and I'm not
really in control of the flow of stories I have
to tell.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, like when somebody drag your name through the mud? Yeah,
through the mud. That was the first song I said, Damn.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
That's how I kicked the door down. And in the
streams were just cinematic. I wanted to I'm big on
world building, I'm not a single artist. I'm an album artist.
I'm a world building, live playing album artists. So mud
was just perfect because it just sets the tone. Really,
it's just the bravado of it, just like it's like

(09:45):
like fingerpointing music.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, it's like wipe that dirt off.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
There's really an experience more so than you're just going in.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
There to record exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's like much more than a job.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I mean, I make music because I have to. I
literally it's like my my therapy. That's why it's tricky though,
because if you're doing something because you have to, and
it's like your therapeutic process is your it's so vulnerable,
and then you put it out to the world to critique.
And I don't have a stage name, so any critique

(10:19):
is actually like I feel like you critiquing me as
a person people I never even met. Like that takes
a lot of courage. I could be running around just
hidden in Italy, in a random place somewhere, but I
still time and time again decide to be courageous enough
to put this flaws and vulnerability out to the public

(10:40):
to even be nitpicked. It's hard, though, in.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
The industry where you can create a persona. Did you
ever think about a stage name or you always knew that?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Nah?

Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think because my name is just so unique and
I never met another give Yon.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So you never thought of saying, yeah, that's what that's
what them girls was telling you, right, I like them
name it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
No, I never maybe like maybe for an album. Maybe
I'll do like an alias for an album at some point,
but like now, I never was like I'm gonna go
buy a different stage name. I kind of regret that, though.
I feel like it would have been easier to turn
it off and on.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
So so you feel like there's no turning it off
being given.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
On unless I but the stuff I like to do
on my downtime is it kind of feels off because
I'm I'm going to coffee shops, I'm thrifting, I'm going
to art galleries. I'm going to watch classic movies. So
I'm not it's not really a frenzy.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You really can't do that.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
You're doing that, yeah, security, No, Nah, you can't.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You can't do that, sir.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
I've been The most that's gonna happen is it's actually great.
People actually feel bad coming up to me. I think
it's because of the music I make. They're like, I'm
so they apologize for even coming up.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
To me walk I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I just want to tell you, and
I think it's because of my writing. You can tell
that I'm it's more of a it's super personal and
I'm not doing it for fame or anything. So they
probably feel bad knowing that I'm a more private, keep

(12:34):
to myself person. So in the worst case is they'll
be like, can I get a picture? That's worst and
best case I'm like, yeah, sure, because that's what happened
to me. Though I had that fear of like because
I blew up during the pandemic when I haven't experienced
any type of notoriety. So I was at the house like, dang,
do I need a security everywhere I go? Do I

(12:54):
need to go to a grocery store? Do I need
to this?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
This? This?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
So then I would like I started to create some
type of like agoraphobia, like social anxiety because I was like, oh,
and then I would go out and then I'll be.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like, I wonder if the people looking at me they
know who I am. I don't nobody give it?

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Then nobody care it's not even that serious. And if
they do, that's just like, yo, I like you. I'm
like yo, I like it too.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Thanks.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
So then it's just like and nobody. It's not like
anybody gonna try to harm me that that just wouldn't.
That would just be random, like what.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
And I think it's your demeanor.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
You seem like a very chill person, and I think
that also helps with people being like, Okay, this person
is And it's like the places that you ad like
if you.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
At a coffee shop, if you reading a book.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
This is like like a hey, one time a team macha,
I'm a lot to You're.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
A fool for that yet not me. I don't like coffee.
You don't like coffee. I got a story about it.
What's the story?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
When I work at Chucky Cheese.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
You worked at Chucky Cheese, got it?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I used to get in the Chucky thing too, every
every thirty minutes and throw tickets up for the kids
to grab, and I'll be talking shit in my head
like look at these little more because they can't hear me.
So I'm mumble, I'm like I got me in this
ship and then somebody, somebody shout it in the bathroom

(14:27):
exactly in the stall in front of the toilet. I'm like,
you did this shit on purpose. All you have to
do is sit down. So I'm like, in order to
get rid of them, yep, in order to get rid
of the smell, they said, pour coffee on it and
you a scar for Like, yeah, I can't. I can't
disassociate coffee and shit. So you're drinking ship with ice.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Let's go to commercial yo yo.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah where we were at, back the Nagle love for
the studios.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
That's right, and we are back to Battler show right here.
O Revolt TV give you on is still in the building.
We having a pretty crappy conversation right now.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
I'd like how you were so transparent about you. I
worked the Chuck E Cheese.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I worked at Alamo. Would you work with that sprint?
Sprint talking like that yesterday? I heard sprinting In a minute,
is that still a company?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's not somebody they merged.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I forgot who mobile? So people be acting like people.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Uh you know, I was talking to uh to what
about boys and and I said, you know when people
hate on you, I said, the thing that they do
is like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I heard you used to work at Chuck E Cheese.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Before you did this, you'd be like, like, okay, okay,
where the.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Bubba Gum Shimp Company.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
I don't know if y'all have Oh yeah, I have
heard of that before me with It's like it's based
off of the movie for us seriously, Yeah, like all
day of the movie plays. Oh that's why I never
met Tom Hanks. But if I do, we got a problem.
I've seen him every day for five years.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Five years a waiter.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Well, I started as a host and then I went
to a server, terrible server though, you were a terrible Yeah.
I never went back to the tables, and that's customer service.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I was horrible.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
People did that because you'll be like, wait, where's my service?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
What were you doing? Forget?

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I wasn't like trying to think I don't know
what the hell I was doing.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I would like forget.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
I was at work musicians and this was a long beat,
long beach because that's where.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
You you were doing this to make money to for music.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, and just like it was tricky though, because I
didn't I didn't know anyone in music.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I didn't even know if.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
It was even a realistic thing because I had no
no connections, no resources, So I was just like, I'm
gonna just get a job while I figured myself out.
But also I was always just working on the craft.
But the thing is, what is it possible to even
do this, like as a career.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Now, how was you in your relationship with your auntie?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Because I've seen that you said you started feeling disrespectful
because your auntie didn't ask you. I can't believe you're
this person now you all right, I'm five years mom,
Yeah you're one.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
She's just like, so can't believe it because no one
in our family. This is like the first anything, no,
no nepotism at all. So she's just like, what what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You're two? She like, this is like a dream. I
can't believe you did it. You're three? She like, you
really did it? Y're four?

Speaker 5 (17:51):
She like, I just can't. I feel like I'm not
a wak right now, I can't believe you did it.
And I'm like, now my feeling is getting hurt cause
now like you you two in disbelief because.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
She's like, year five, you like you really did it? Huh.
I'm like my son, you this one.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I'm like, yeah, like before I was like, yeah, crazy right,
year five, I'm like, what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
You didn't think it was gonna work. You didn't think
I was gonna be and believed.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Mama's being mom, MoMA's being Mama. Yeah, you got any siblings? Uh, well,
I got my dad.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I got siblings on my dad's side and on my
mom's side, but I grew up with the siblings on
my mom's side and she had four boys. But that's
why I started writing, because there was there was only
a couple emotions that were even allowed in the house
between us.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Otherwise it would just be like that we antrol each
other and he mad.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
I'm just like, But then I found out at an
early age, like I could just express myself through this
and it's more palatable, palatable to people because they take
it more. It's just vulnerability instead of like, you know,
by to judge someone's journal, like that's kind of I mean,
in an intimate setting, on a grand scheme, grand stages,

(19:09):
people people judge our journals.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Now, as an artist of your caliber and also a writer,
are you also open to having writers co write with you? Yeah,
but I know sometimes y'all take that personal.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Now, it is like you do want to. But then
I think once you proving yourself, like road Hits by myself,
it becomes less about being the one holding the camera
or acting, and you're okay with being a director and
being like this, this, this, But I still haven't found that,
Like I can't just take a whole song.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I was gonna ask the next question, have you ever
not written a damn thing?

Speaker 5 (19:49):
And that's hard because it's like my favorite I think
my favorite thing about my writing is besides the melodies,
is the concepts, like super nuanced concepts that people haven't
thought of. And I found out I find out with
writers it's a little more vague sometimes because they're just
they're not they're not always writing from their own personal

(20:12):
experience and just writing a good song. So it's like
it's a dance. I'm still trying to figure it out
because I don't want to have to write all these
songs that's not I don't. I understand people take pride
in it, but I'm like, I've proven it already. I
just want to make it be a part of good music.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
And it's probably it's probably a lot of work. It's
so much work.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's so much work, and then you can write a
full song and be like, Okay, let me edit because
I'm I'm just a fan of writing in general, because
I think as I expand the world of giving on
these these stories still need some like some of these
songs and albums need like some film adaptations to them

(20:54):
because they're so relatable and so.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Nuanced.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
So it feels specific in all of these things. So
I'm like, I would love to one day just when
people see my name that I like wrote a movie,
people tune into that because it's like, oh, Gibeon wrote it,
so it's going to be quality and honest and believable.
So and I just study writing and that makes a
songwriter process harder because now I'm elevated my taste, so

(21:20):
now I'm aware of what could be better.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Now.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, because now you've become a picky eater you like exactly,
You're like, man, I can tell you ain't really experienced.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
That wrote that yesterday, Like label stop.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Sending me these guys like I don't like the Yeah.
So but when I do sit down and like co
write with somebody in it, it's more so to fill
in the blanks. What about production though, production, Oh, no,
I'm I just offer what's world and a vision. But
my producer who found me, his name is seven Thomas.

(21:56):
He's like top symptoms. He's a he's a mastermind, like you.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Have to curate together for the vibe to be perfect
or do.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Sometimes he can send you write.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
To it now.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
I just I just I could write to it just
on my own and then we come in. But he's
also an amazing vocal producer. He'll be like, you should
redo this, m you should so he can range and
he don't want to found me.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
He's so he's like he's kind of like yo, Quincy
Jones exactly.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
That's a perfect example. And I learned through production and
everything through him. So I remember, I got to a
point where I was like, yo, I want to learn
how to play more and produce.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I don't think you got time.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
That takes a long time.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Even for example, like because we interview rappers too, rappers
can do a song in like ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
They were doing like eight songs in a session. I'm like,
why was that, bro?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
It could take y'all a month.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
A month year to do. But that's why, that's why
we need you to get songwriters, because.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Three years without an album is great and it's that
things getting mad, be getting mad?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Bro, what do you call them?

Speaker 5 (23:04):
By the way, I don't have a name, but I've
been calling like I've been doing meet and greets for
I've been doing meet and greets and talking to them,
and then my album is Beloved, and naturally I'm just like,
thank you, love it. Mm hmm, So like for now
it's kind of my beloved. But then I can't because
when one of the homies walk up, I'm dapping them up.
So I'm like, oh wait, I can't put them all
in one group.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So you can my beloved. Yeah, I'm like, you gotta
do it and walk off stage the meet and you
gotta walk off Oh yeah, yeah, look like did this
niggas has called me beloved?

Speaker 5 (23:44):
It's hard to like, it's hard unless you have a
majority of one group, one demographic for sure, like a
like a Playboard CARDI could be like vamps because it's
like mostly guys and it's like that that's kind of
a harsh thing to just call.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
A girl who's a Playboard CARDI fan. That's like, honestly, no,
that could work. Could work. Who else is on Rihanna?
She calls.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
The Navy.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's hard and I think I feel like, I feel like,
do they have to name themselves?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Sometimes?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
I think sometimes they just create, Like I think the
fan base just create and say hey, this is and
then you talk.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
To your fans too, so you know, of course the barbs.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's yeah. So you know, I'm pretty sure they're gonna
start coming on over when this comes out of.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
It, because I've been calling or at least for this tour. Okay,
it's run okay for sure, or.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Maybe just call the women beloved and then just or.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Just thank you, thank you, well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
We're going to go to commercial when we come right
back more give you right here on The Ballert Show
by Revolt.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
That's right, man, that we are back right here the
ball Alert Show on Revolt TV. Give y'all still hanging
out with us. Man, We're having a great conversation.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
But let's get a little you my boy, let go,
uh it is now time for do like that camera
and you shot out your crush or somebody that you
know is a crush that you are talking to. What
would you have to say to that particular person crush,
like a celebrit crush.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
It could be any crush. What do I say to them? Anything?

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Whatever? You why would I was just texting.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
But if they were watching this particular clip and they
see your face right now, this is.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
That moment for you to express yourself.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
I'll see you soon.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh okay, this this is your crush. Like, make you
sing too, I'll be singing.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
But don't. I'm not like a crush guy. Okay, okay, you.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Haven't met any celebrity that you like. When you was
working at Chuck E Cheese and Gumbo and you was like,
man if I meet.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
This person bubble gum. When you hear that, you went
on Instagram like, man, I can't wait till I run
into her.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And you're thinking too long now now, because I'm not.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
I was never a celebrity crushy guy because I was
just like a normal, normal girl. What can you say
in Good Life? Because we like the girls who ain't
on TV.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
So the young lady that you're crushing on right now,
is she a normal girl?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Normal in the most Non, I don't know if people
get offended.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, like that's no, Yeah, no, she's not a celebrity okay.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, it's just like I think that's just naturally what
it would I gravitate to.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
But it's not like.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Particular, like nah, I got you cutting off, So I'm
just like, nah, this is just But right now it's
like it's it's time to be single.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Though. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I get in relationships kind of fast, so I just
try to stay away from it because I don't know
how to go slow because I'm like, if I like you,
then what do we Let's go like all right, sure,
let's try it and then we can find out sooner
if it's gonna work or not, you know. So right
now I'm trying not to deal with no crushes.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Hey, you're about to go on the road, man, you
gotta be single. Yeah, you gotta be a thought when
you touring and stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
But I got all that out though it's probably gonna
it's not not my first on first roadio.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I used to be like, oh, yeah, you're on tour.
It's supposed to let a rock star lifestyle.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
You're supposed to But I'm like, I'll do it if
it happens. But I'm not like in search of it
because I realized there's a couple of cities I'm been
to multiple times that I don't even know the city.
Like I'm I'm here in Atlanta and I'm like, oh,
I don't know my spot, I don't know where I
want to eat. I don't know anything. Coming years we

(27:51):
get the lemon Pepper. You had the lemon pepper ranch sprinkle.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
No, it's not like a cupcake. You ain't never been
to Magic City, had a little limit pep. I want
to Magic City on accident.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
You gotta go with us?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Accident, Yeah, because I was go with us, bro listen,
I want to.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
I was opening for snow a Legra twenty nineteen and
I kept, yeah, this is my first tour, and I
was like I was asking everybody like yo, I'm hungry,
Like where can I get some food? Magic City Wings,
Magic City Wings, Magic City Wings, Magic City Wings.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
And I was like all right, and it was what
Spotify rep was there too. I forgot his name though.
I was like all right.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
There was like we're gonna go to Magic City and
I'm thinking it's just like Causin. I don't know if
y'all have them here, but in LA we have this
store called like Party City.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, Well I'm down in Atlanta. But yeah, I
think they closed down too.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
So to me, it's just like family, fun, little restaurant
Magic Maybe somebody come out a little city.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Didn't know it was a strip club.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I was like, boo, you didn't know Magic City was
a strip club? No, So then we go.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'm like, we pull up to we pull up to
the parking lot. I'm like, yo, it's that restaurant jumping.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's like real whips in the parking lot. And then
it was like dark.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
So I was looking down so I could see my
watch my step while I'm walking, so I'm still not
even it's not registering, like and then I look up,
I see stripper pos I'm like what? And then I
see also I've never been in the strip club before.
That was the first and only time I've ever been
to it.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
What.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
I'm like, what's going on? And then I start seeing
strippers and I'm like, what's the surfers? I was so
confused all that as.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
You thought that was just a service. I mean it is.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
I was just I would hear about Atlanta all the time.
And then the wings took like forty five minutes.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's what look, that's where you partake
in the activities. And then about about.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Time I had a girl with me, we both I
was I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna do this show,
take you to dinner.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Side note before we get into this. By side though,
put you down. Next time you come and get with
the team. We want a blue flag.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
What food is that?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
No, no, no, See that's another strip club.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
You know. You know, West Coast people don't the club.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
West Coast people do not like to take Listen. I
love your magic. Everybody going to magic. Take your blue flame.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
My boy, I'm scared of club man.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You gotta go easy.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
You gotta take them to Cheatah, bro, you gotta clubs.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
He's gonna take you to Cheatah. It's gonna be elegant.
That's that's where you're gonna take a girl.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
To a night dinner. What about a restaurant? Restaurant? I
don't know. Rest now, it's gonna be some ass in there.
See That's why I'm like, come on.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Like, shake it, shake it, shake it. It's like that.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
But it's like you ever seen you say food? I
want your food is restaurant?

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Start restaurant. You ever you ever played a grand theft auto?
You know, they just be doing this and then you
just be on there. That's what they're doing. They ain't
gonna even know what they're gonna bother. You put you
in the back back of what they got a back area.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
But listen, I'm never going out in a except that
it's time for you got me? What's the things that
get on your damn nerves?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
My boy?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Now, what's something you just can't stand? It could be
a personal place or a thing mm hmm, FaceTime traffic.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Because I got a lot of stuff that be irritating me.
I'm gonna say, come on, give me a you know what,
I'm gonna really say. What when like the audience or

(31:49):
a fan base or just the public discourse about R
and B. Okay, that gets on my nerves because I
don't critique anything that I can't do, and if I
can do it, I won't critique it.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I'll just gonna make what I like.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
And I see a discourse about rhythm and blues and
R and B all the time from people who don't
make it. That gets someone, Yeah, because it's just like
it's like it's almost like a like I understand that sometimes,
like in sports, there's like a Stephen A. Smith that

(32:24):
can he could critique basketball and be like blah blah
blah blah. But the NBA players are gonna be like, what.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Are you talking? You never played yeah on this level
at all. So it's like that, it's it's not that easy.
So that that.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, but like what what is the strip clubs? Yeah,
I don't like people from the West Coast do not
like strip clubs. That's what I've learned.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well, what I've learned is we gotta go to commercial
when we come back. We gotta talk about this tour.
And we got a gift forgive you on. Yes, sir,
it's fro Simons, you know BT ball or Revolt.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
That's right, man, we are back right here, the Ball
Alert show on Revolt TV.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Give you on.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's still in the building. And man, we got a
gift for you.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Shout out the ural watches watch that's right now.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
So we got we got you your oral watch.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yes, sir, let me see. You know I love a
good watch. Yes, sir, Oh, yes, thank you, thank you
as you right there.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you just wanted to
give you something. It's very nice, smooth, you know what,
I'm trincking on me.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Look see we give our gifts to Yeah, yeah, thank
you though I appreciate it. Now you got a tour, Yes, tour,
Fall tour. It's like one of my favorite times to
tour too, because it's not too hot in cities, not
too man.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
He don't like the heat. I don't.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
I like it just right, just growing up and the
best part of the and I get to see because
growing up I'm from Long Beach, LA. We don't really
have seasons like that. It's summer or a little colder summer.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
So I'm excited to just see brown golden brown leaves
and then get people ready for the holidays right.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
After this tour.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's just like it's just a perfect time. And my
whole album was like ninety five percent of it was
made live, so it's meant to be played live, so
it's gonna translate really well on stage. And me and
my band have a lot of chemistry. That's just the
creative direction of everything. It's just gonna be a special
night out. I'm excited for people now.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I did earlier in the interview I know you said
singles ain't really a big deal.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
You are an album artist. Yeah, would you say also
that you're a performance type of artist. Yeah, you love
to perform more so than like shooting a video.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh yeah, definitely. I think it's just it's more of
a flow.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
And then when I'm in flowed, stuff comes out that
I could never have planned, even interviews like this, Like
if I came in here with like a script, it
just wouldn't like the stuff I wanted to say. Yeah,
it would just be like I like those happy accidents.
And sometimes on tour, you just it's just more loose
and relaxed than like even sitting in this I don't
even like sitting in the studio that long, like writing music,

(35:12):
because I'm like, that's when I'm in like scientist mode
and making sure everything is right.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
So I mean that's what we do. We you know,
labels and everybody, they sent us prep sheets.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I don't I don't read. I don't read I read it.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm gonna listen to the music.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I'm a study and then we're gonna flow because we
like to have a conversation and we like the the
dope accidents that may may or.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
May not happen.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, exactly on the interview, like you're.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Talking about coffee, man, I'm like, damn, now you're gonna
have me start thinking about some coffee like that Like that?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
We do have one more statement before we get out
of here. It is the mental health check in courtesy
of the Faith Project with a Keisha. How does give
you strengthen or keep his mental health intact?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
What do you do?

Speaker 5 (35:59):
I say, the two most important things to me will
be working out. It could be something small, just run,
weightlifting those little things. Or just like your core family friends,
because conversation pull up, conversation pull up and not even
on some what you've been going through. It could just
be like a normal just aging combo and not energized you.

(36:22):
So yeah, I think surrounding yourself with your family friends
and keep your body moving.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well. Listen, I appreciate you. I know BT does as
well spending some time with us. Bro. Hope you enjoy
your gift.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Watch Yeah, and one time for all the beloveds that's
watching right now, said you had a crazy meet and
greet too yesterday.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
dB DBS Yeah it was yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Louis V told us he said, man, you had a
line wrapped around the building waiting.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
It was too long. It was a lot of people there.
You was tired of taking pictures.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
No, I was just like, oh that's good though, Yeah,
it's good. And then they'll never forget that in Atlanta,
you know what I'm saying, Like Atlanta has a thirst
for R and B. Bro Like you know, we be
turned and have like turned up music, but it is
an audience that loves your music in particular. So I
was just happy to see you come to the market too,
because yeah, we's number seven in the country. You might

(37:21):
to be number six. People keep moving here, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Population yeah, yeah, number seven right now. We just traded places,
but we right behind Houston right now.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta come back, and you gotta
come to my R and B party. I have a
We play real R and B music. Yeah, it ain't
where you know you go to R and B part
and they play R and B for thirty minutes and
they about trapping out for three hours. No, we got
we play real R and B music. So when you
come back, is it on a specific Wednesday week? We
do it on Wednesday every every Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I feel like they told me about that. They did
tell you about that. We tell I was sleep he said,
I was sleepy.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
But what we will do is we won't go to
the strip club. But I get the I get the
lemon pepper ranch sprinkles.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Wings delivered from agus. Yeah of course, yes, yeah, yeah,
so they got to go in there to get it. Yeah,
Robert gotta go to get That's how I get. That's
how I get Roscoe's chicken. I don't I don't go
in there. I'll be in l A. I'm like, I'm
about to get this delivered right to the hotel. That's crazy.
Way you don't know about Rosco.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, we have to do I'm thinking I was thinking
something else, yeah Roscoe.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, I was thinking like.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
I'm thinking chick.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah I know.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
That was like, I mean, we know about it though.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
We go to l A A in l A. Yeah.
Out here, No, I wish they had the Roscos out here.
That's what I wish. Yeah you got yeah, give you
and the bell.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
We appreciate you man. All Revolt from Studios piece
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