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August 18, 2025 12 mins
  • International Diplomacy & Peace Talks

    • Focuses on a summit held on August 15 in Anchorage, Alaska, involving Vladimir Putin, Ukraine's President Zelensky, and Donald Trump.
    • Claims of progress toward a peace framework between Russia and Ukraine, including:
      • Russia offering to withdraw from small areas in exchange for concessions.
      • Ukraine rejecting demands like renouncing NATO membership and acknowledging Russian sovereignty over Crimea.
      • Discussions of NATO-style security guarantees for Ukraine.
  • Political Commentary

    • Strong criticism of Democrats and mainstream media, accusing them of misrepresenting the summit and undermining Trump’s efforts.
    • Defense of Trump’s role in the negotiations, portraying him as making more progress than previous leaders.
  • Marco Rubio’s Statements

    • Rubio is quoted extensively, defending the negotiation process and emphasizing the need for mutual concessions.
    • He argues that peace requires compromise, not surrender, and stresses the importance of private diplomacy.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you see that Hillary Clinton yesterday said that if
you got this deal done and not capitulate to Putin,
that she would nominate you for the Nobel Peace Price.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
At President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate
him for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, that was very nice.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I may have to shug liking her again.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good Monday morning. It's nights. Have you with us on
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story for you, Donald Trump moving towards peace, brokering a
deal between Ukraine and Russia and hosting Zelensky. So why
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the meeting even happened, because they hate Trump more than
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Speaker 4 (02:56):
Story number one.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
We've got a major story that we've got to talk
and I've got all the information you're gonna need and
it deals with Vladimir Putin, Ukraine Zelensky and Donald Trump.
As you know, the summit took place on August the
fifteenth and Anchorage, Alaska, and officials present, including Marco Ruvio
and many of the envoy on the US side said

(03:18):
that there was real progress that was made. Democrats in
the media, of course, using the Sunday morning shows to
lie to the American people. We also now know through
sources the territorial proposals have been floated. In fact, quote,
a potential peace framework is emerging. Putin reportedly offered to
withdraw from small areas in southern Sumi and other areas

(03:42):
in exchange for larger concessions from Ukraine. However, the ideas
remain controversial and unresolved. Notably, Russia wants Ukraine to renounce
NATO membership, partially lift sanctions, and acknowledge Russian sovereignty over CRIMEA.
Ukraine firmly rejecting these conditions publicly today. But then there's

(04:04):
where are we actually compared to the posturing in public. Well,
one of the things we are learning about is security guarantees.
In a notable development, Putin apparently agreed to allow the
US and Europe to offer Ukraine NATO's style quote unquote
security guarantees ach into Article five protections. That is a

(04:25):
historic shift in Russia's posture. Now there is no agreement yet,
despite Donald Trump calling the talks productive, and the media
is saying they're a failure. This seems to be working
towards a real formal agreement, and both sides are acknowledging
that major points will have to be discussed, but they're
willing to do it, all right. I want you to

(04:47):
hear what Marco Rubio had to say. He was on
face the nation Democrats saying that Donald Trump got played
by Vladimir Putin. It's absurd. They weren't in the room.
No he didn't, but there's nothing to say that that's
actually what happened.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Of course, the media is running with it because that's
what Democrats are saying, and why because they would rather
score political points against Aunt Trump then stop the senseless
killing between Russia and Ukraine, with the innocent children and
women and seniors and men and women in general that
are being forced to fight in this war. I want
you to hear the Secretary of State Rubio on Ukraine

(05:23):
and what he says. This meeting with Zelenski is going
to really look like this week, Miley.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
If Vladimir Putin is going to be offered land that
he has not seized yet but negotiates his way into,
doesn't this set a dangerous precedent that the United States
now accepts this concept that it is okay to seize
land by force.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Well, Putin's already sees land by force, and that in
and of itself is not a positive president.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
This whole war. Are you demanding a withdrawal for president?

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Well, again, here's the In order to have a deal
here to end, to reach the end of this conflict,
both sides are going to have to make concessions.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
That's just a fact.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Any negotiation, no, no, but if but this is not
about accepting. This is about what Ukraine can accept and
what Russia can accept. They both have to accept it,
otherwise there won't be a peace deal. Okay, if there
aren't concessions. If one side gets everything they want, that's
called surrender. That's called the end of the war through surrender,
and not what we're close to doing anything close to it.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
So in order for there to be a peace deal,
this is just a fact. Like it.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
It may not, it may be distaste, but in order
for there to be an end of the war, there
are things Russia wants that it cannot get, and there
are things Ukraine wants that it's not going to get.
Both sides are going to have to give up something
in order to get to the table in order to
make this happens. That's just the way it is, and
I mean, the sooner we accept that that's the reality.
Now what those things are, it's going to be up
to both sides. There's no conditions that can be imposed

(06:43):
on Ukraine. They're going to have to accept things, but
they're going to have to get things too. And so
for example, Ukraine is a sovereign country. They have a
right like every sovereign country does in the world, to
have the enter into security alliances with other countries to
prevent an invasion in the future, to prevent threats to
the national security. That's not an unreasonable record us. That's
something needs to be worked on. Territories will have to
be discussed. It's just a fact. And there are things

(07:05):
that maybe Russia's holding now that they're going to have
to give up.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Who knows.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
The point is we need to create a scenario where
that becomes possible. And that's why this has been so hard,
because neither side up to now has been willing to
give on some of these things.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
But we'll see if that's possible.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
It may not be, but we're going to try and
we're going to do everything we can to try to
achieve a peace.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Now, think about what Marco Rubio just said there. He
says we're moving towards peace. Why would anyone want a
root against that? Why would you want to root against
President Donald Trump? If he is able to get these
parties to the table, which, by the way, is exactly
what he's moving towards right now, getting closer than anybody
else has, and he now has at least a framework,

(07:44):
and that is part of what Marco Rubio also said
on Face the Nation, reminding the host we are moving forward,
whether you like it or not.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Ask about the security that you just mentioned there, because
Italy's Prime minister says that President Trump provide the idea
of security guarantees inspired by NATO's Article five and a
collective security clause that would involve the United States. How
does that work? Are these US troops that we're going.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
To mons, Well, that's what we're going to be working on.
That's why.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
That's one of the reasons why you know, I talked
yesterday to all the national security advisors and a bunch
of them from the different European countries. There are European
leaders coming here tomorrow, Heads of state coming tomorrow along
with President Zelensky to discuss this in more detail. I mean,
the constructs of something like this needs to be built out.
One's a concept is one thing. The reality you know,
how it's built and how it would work is another.

(08:35):
But those are the kinds of talks that we're going
to be having with them, along with some of the
other issues that are at play. But that that is
one of the if you were to break this thing down.
I mean, there are obviously there needs to be an
agreement on territories and where the lines are going to
be drawn.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's not going to be very easy. That's going to
be tough.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I think there has to be some discussion about security
guarantees for Ukraine because they don't want this war, None
of us want to see this war in the future.
They're a sovereign country. They have a right to have
security agreement with other countries and security alliances with other countries.
And then there's the whole issue in construction, how do
you rebuild the country? Well, potentially, like I said, that's
what we're going to be having a conversation about, and

(09:10):
that's what we're going to be meeting. That's why they're
all coming here tomorrow, and that's why we've been talking
on the phone for the last forty eight hours with.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Them, and even leading up to it throughout the week, there.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Were various meetings just to sort of build out some
of these ideas. So all of these right now are ideas.
There are concepts that require some more specificity. We'll need
to work with our partners to see what that looks like.
And I think that's an area where potential progress is real.
But that alone won't be enough. There's a bunch of
other things that have to be worked through.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Here.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
We're going to be working right Notice how he's like,
we have things to work through. There's no way everything
could be agreed to to stop a multi year war
in a three hour time span when only one of
the two parties is in the room with President Trump.
You think about their definitive success. It was an immediate
end of the war, a ceasefire immediately. When Donald Trump

(09:53):
walked out of that meeting in Alaska. That was never
going to happen. Everyone knows that was never going to happen.
There are concessions that may need to be made. There
are security guarantees that need to be made. And this
goes back to how much the media hates Donald Trump.
They would rather him fail then stop the senseless killing
around the world. Now here's something else that also. Senor

(10:16):
Rubio said that it's important listen carefully.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Aim any concessions that Vladimir Putin made during this meeting.
Has he any prog of any concession in your program?
Why would I do that? Where is the quessure? Because
you can't have a piece agreement.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Now, you can't have a piece agreement unless both sides
give and get. You can't have a piece agreement unless
both sides make concessions. That's a fact, that's true, and
virtually any negotiation if not, it's just called surrender. And
neither side is going to surrender. So both sides are
going to have to make concessions. So of course concessions
were asked. But what utility would there be of me
going on a program and tell you we've wagged our

(10:52):
finger at Putin.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And told them you must do this and you must
do that.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
It's only make it's only going to make it harder
and less likely that they're going to agree to these things.
So these negotiations, as much as everyone would love it
to be a live, pay per view event, these discussions
only work best when they are conducted privately. Negotiation serious
negotiations in which people who have to go back and
respond to constituencies, because even solitarian governments have constituencies they

(11:19):
have to respond to. People have to go back and
defend these agreements that they make and so and figure
out a way to explain them to people. So we
need to create space for concessions to be made. But
of course the concessions were asked.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of course concessions were asked. We work and do these
discussions in private. Isn't it amazing how the media they
believe they're so important that they should be in the
middle of negotiations between Russia, Ukraine, the EU and the
United States of America. Leave it to the liberal media
to act like this while also hoping that the president fails.

(11:51):
The good news is the meetings are continuing and it
looks like President Trump is getting closer to peace, certainly
than anyone else has been able to do in the world.

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