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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, So Joe Biden does this interview with George Stepanopolis,
and the reason why he did this interview is pretty simple.
He's trying to say, hey, we don't I'm not totally senile,
I'm in charge, I'm the president. Everything's okay. You don't
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need to worry. It was just a bad night, and
that was the message that he needed to send to
the American people. If you watch the interview, I don't
think it was a disaster. I also don't think it
helped him at all. I don't think that it helped
him actually in any capacity. I think it just kind
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of solidified what we were all thinking, and what we
were all thinking, is this a really old, seenile guy.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I also want to go back to something else that
I've said for quite some time, and that's this. I
believe that this is going to go down history as
the biggest cover up in modern political history of the
cognitive decline of Joe Biden. We're going to find out
that everybody around him, for not weeks, not months, but years,
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has been covering for his declining health and mental incapacity.
I also think we're going to find out that Joe
Biden wasn't actually running the country. And that's something else
that I think is really important that we understand that.
Like I don't believe that he's in charge. I don't
believe that he's actually the president. I think he's president
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name only. But who is running the government right now?
Because it is not this guy? And I think most
people would agree with me that he is not running
the country. So let's also just deal with that reality
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
In this interview, he was trying to explain that, hey,
I just had a bad night, I had a cold,
I was jetlagged from twelve fourteen days before the debate,
and I just got too tired.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And that's just the way that it is.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, that was the goal here, That's what he was
trying to explain or solidify to the American people. It
did not go well because his answers, well, they were
pretty much terrible. I'm going to go through this even
in the first excerpt that ABC News put out, And
I also want to say something else. I saw a
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lot of people online like, man, Georgepnopolis is not letting
out man. He's hard hitting tonight in this interview, do
not give him any credit and let me explain why
he was brought in to be a hit man for
the Democratic Party to take out Joe Biden in this interview.
He was there put there by the Democratic Party, by
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the elite in Washington, by the donors right, because he
is a hardcore Democratic operative that masquerades as an ABC
News guy. Now he was Bill Clinton's guy, and they said,
with the final nails in the coffin, and that was
his objective in this interview. And you could tell from
the very beginning he had his marching orders. The Democratic Party,
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the establishment, the money people, and everybody else in the
media were saying to George, go take out Joe Biden.
He was a hit man for the Democratic Party to
get rid of him, because at the end of the day,
the only thing this really is about is the Democrats
now believe that Joe Biden can't beat Donald Trump. And
since they believe that now since the last debate, they
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want to get rid of Joe Biden, and they're turning
on him and they're all united against him because they
want him gone. Now can they stay this way through election?
They know there's about a two week window here for
them to get rid of him. If they don't then
they'll have to jump behind him and say, you know what,
he's doing much better, and you know what, he did
have a cold, and they'll go back to all the
lies they've been telling us for the last three years
about Joe Biden's cognitive decline. But right now the media
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has turned on the president, clearly, the liberal media. They
want him gone. They want someone else because they don't
want to lose power. And I want you to listen
to this first question from George. This is the one
they released, and I want you to listen to Joe
Biden's excuses slash response.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Let's start with a debate.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You and your team have said you had a bad night,
but your friend Nancy Pelosi actually framed the question I
think is on.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The minds of millions of Americans.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Was this a bad episode with a sign of a
more serious condition.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
It was a bad episode, no indication any serious condition.
I was exhausted. I did listen to my instincts in
terms of preparents and the bad nights.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, you say you were exhausted, and I know
you've said that before as well, but you came and
you did have a tough mind.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But you came home from Europe about eleven.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Or twelve days before the debate, spent six days in
Camp David.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Because I was sick. I was feeling terrible. As matter
of fact, the doc's with me, I asked him. They
did a COVID test. But you're trying to figure out
what's wrong. You did a test to see whether or
not I had some infection, you know, lirus.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I didn't. I just had a really bad cold.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Now you notice the language that was used there by
George Stepanopolis. This is language to take out the president.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Was your humiliating debate a bad episode or a sign
of a more serious condition? So now they're accusing the
president implying that he has dementia or Alzheimer's. Biden's response quote,
I was exhausted, ABC. Why wasn't your week holdaway at
Camp David enough rest time?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Biden? I just had a really bad cold.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now there were some that would think at that moment, right,
all right, Well then Stepanopolis would kind of like let up.
He didn't why because his job was to take out
the president? Keep listening.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Did you ever watch the debate afterwards?
Speaker 6 (05:57):
I don't think I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That is the Joe Biden that everyone saw during debate
the other night. Not a hard question. Did you ever
watch the debate afterwards? Joe Biden? I don't think I did.
I don't think I did. You wouldn't know if you
watched the damn debate after the debate. Now, I want
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to be clear, I don't think Joe Biden had to
watch the debate like he knew it was a disaster.
He knew it was a train wreck everybody around him.
You may go back and watch the debate again to
get ready for the next debate in theory right, and
see what mistakes you made, and not to take debate
or whatever it may be for planning purposes. But the
question was did you ever watch the debate after the debate?
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Biden quote? I don't think I did. The fact that
he can't even remember if he did or didn't watch
the worst debate in political history after he did, it
tells you how far gone this guy is. And listen,
stepping off was again goes all in to take out by.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, don't try.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
What I want to get at is what were you
experiencing as you were going through the debate.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Did you know how badly it was going?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, look the whole way I prepared nobody's fault of mind,
nobody's help of mind. I prepared what I usually would do,
sitting down as I did, come back foreign leaders or
the National Security Council.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
For explicit details.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And I realized part way through that, you know, although
I get quoted The New York Times had me down
at ten points before the debate nine now or whatever
the hell it is, the fact of the matter is
that what I looked at is that he also lied
twenty eight times. I couldn't. I mean, the way the
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debate ran not my fault. Nobody else is all. No
one else is all.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But it seemed like you were having trouble from the
first question in, even before he spoke, well, I just
had a bad night.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, I just had a bad night. So that is
the excuse.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
They've clearly planned out that excuse, They've explained that excuse,
They've made it abundantly clear that that excuse is going
to be the excuse they're going to use the entire time. Right, Well,
I just had a bad night. I just had a
bad night. I just had a bad night. Is that
enough to turn it around. I don't think so. I
don't think that excuse is going to fly with the
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American people. And then it got even worse for him
because there were other questions that he asked, and they
are ones that were not I got your questions, per se,
but there's certainly questions that the president couldn't answer.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
For example, do you dispute that there have been more laughses,
especially in the last several months.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Can I run one hundred and ten flat?
Speaker 7 (08:53):
No?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
But I'm still in good shape.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Are you more frail?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
No? I know you spoke at my schedule.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Come look at my schedule. So again, do you dispute
that there have been more lapses, especially in the last
several months, Biden, I'm still in good shape.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Are you more frail? Bien?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And look, everybody watching this knows he's more frail. George
Spinopolis knows it. The only difference is they've been lying
to you about how frail he's been for years, and
now they want to get rid of him because they
think he's going to lose to Trump. So this is again,
don't give credit to George Sepanopolis for actually asking tough
questions and not backing down. He was given marching orders
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to the Democratic Party and the machine go take out
the president of the United States of America, and he
tried his damnedest to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So you spoke with your doctor after the debate. What
did he say?
Speaker 6 (09:45):
He said, he just looked at me. He said, you're exhausted.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I said, I am medical doctor's child. We everywhere every
president knows that. You know, medical doctors some of the
best in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Child.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We everywhere I go, I have an ongoing assessment of
what I'm doing. They don't hesitate to tell me if
they think they'reself the wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't believe this, and I don't think anyone else does.
Biden says his doctor quote just looked at him after
this humiliating debate performance and said, you're exhausted. He spent
an entire week hold up at Camp David, resting and
preparing for the debate. And now he wants you to
believe that the problem was jetlag and a cold. Now,
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the President got away with some generic answers early on Stepanopolis,
And again, don't give him credit because he was sent
to do this interview to take out Joe Biden by
the Democratic Party. And then he was started to really
ask about mental capacity, and have you had neurological tests
that were done? Have you had a cognitive evaluation for
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a full using words like Republicans have been using and
Donald trumpan using words like quote full neurological and cognitive evaluation?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mister president, the president say listen, I.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Know you say you have an ongoing assistant.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Have you had a full neurological and cognitive evaluation?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I get a full neurological test every day with me,
and I've had a full physical I had, you know,
I mean I've been able to read through my physicals.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I mean, yes, answers.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I know he's lying, right.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Biden admits he has not had a full neurological and
cognitive evaluation. He says he has one every day. No,
he doesn't. Now if he's taken one, they've hidden it.
They certainly haven't given to the American people like they
certainly haven't told us. And we deserve to know this.
And that's why stepping up what is saying this because
he knows he can't answer the question. So then ABC
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News moves on to this, Well, look like, can you
be effective right what we're watching right? Now is someone
that's not effective, right, So let's ask the question and
listen to the response from Biden, which literally doesn't make
sense when he claims that he's quote the guy that
shut down Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine. He's
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not shut him down at all.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Elections are about the future, not the past. They're about
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yesterday, And the question on so many people's minds right
now is can you serve effectively for the next four years.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
George, I'm the guy that put NATO together the future.
No one thought they could expand it. I'm the guy
that shut Putin down no one thought could happen. I'm
the guy that put together the South Pacific Initiative with Alcus.
I'm the guy that got fifty nations not only in Europe,
outside of Europe as well to help Ukraine. I'm the
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guy that got Japanese to expand their budget. So I mean,
for example, when I decided we used to have forty
percent of.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
The computer chip and we invented the chip, that little
chip in the computer.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Chip, I mean, this is not an answer to the question.
It's not even close to an answer to the question.
That was asked, and the question that was asked he
did not answer. There was no solid answers from the
present there. I'm the guy who's shut down Putin, Like,
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what world are you living in? You haven't shut down
Vladimir Putin. And then the other question he went back
to afterwards, and the question was, all right, are the
American people going to get to actually see any medical
records on you? Are you going to take a medical evaluation,
an independent cognitive, you know, evaluation, so that that the
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American people don't have to just trust you and the
White House who's been lying to us about your condition
listen to the President refused to say the American people, yes,
you can see that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yes, I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation
that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And release the results to the American people?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every
day I have that test.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean again, he says the same thing he said
earlier lying to the American people. He also was asked
about the reality of the polling data. Hey, mister President,
your polling numbers are dismal. We've never seen somebody be
elected with a thirty what is it six percent approval rating?
Like this is really bad? What did Joe Biden say
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in response to that? To George Spanopolis, Listen, it's been.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
A two man race for several months. Inflation has come
down in those last few months. He's become a convicted felon. Yeah,
you're still falling further behind you.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Guys keep saying that, George, do you look, do you know,
pulling better than anybody?
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Do you think polling data as accurate as it used
to be?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't think so, But I think when you look
at all of the polling data right now, it shows
that he's certainly ahead in the popular vote, probably even
more ahead in the battleground states. The other key factors
there is it shows that in many of the battleground states,
the Democrats who are running for cent in the House
are doing better than you are.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, that's not unusual in some states.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
But carried an alf a lot of Democrats last time
I ran in twenty twenty. Look, I remember them telling
me the same thing in twenty twenty. I can't win.
The poll show I can't win. Remember twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty the red way was coming before the vote.
I said, that's not going to happen. We're going to win.
We did better in off throw than almost any income
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a president ever has done.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
This is the host.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why are you so behind President Trump? Do you think
that polling that is accurate? Well, President Trump is certainly ahead.
Biden then basically brain malfunctions and is confused and then
starts talking about other issues that have nothing to do
with that. Joe Biden's claiming he's not behind in the race.
Everyone knows he's behind the race.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Do you really believe you're not behind right now? I
think it's all pulsters I talked to tell me it's
a toss up. It's a toss up. And when I'm behind,
there's only one poll I'm really far behind. CBS poll
and NBC, I mean, excuse me, and.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
New York Times.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
In NBC both you have you about six points behind
in the popular vote.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
New York Times had me behind before anything happened to
do with this race, had me behind behind ten points,
ten points had me behind, not this chase of chases
in the debate.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So, in other words, don't believe you're lying eyes yet again,
I'm not behind the race. Why well, my polling data
tells me you're wrong, and I don't believe your your polls.
And then George Stepanopps tries to even help him there,
rescue him a little bit, right, say well, it's actually
when he can't remember where the other poll came from,
stepping off was in step tent Is like, yeah, it's
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New York Times, mister President, like he was actually I
think he felt bad for him, And then he insists
his humiliating debate performance didn't negatively impact him. He's looking
at George Epanopolis and telling George my debate did not
affect the polls at all.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Biden also claimed that he brought down inflation, which was
a perfect one point four percent when Joe Biden took office,
and they let him get away with this lie on ABC, Listen,
how do.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You respond to critics who say that by staying in
the race, you're doing the same thing?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Oh come on, well, I don't think those critics know
what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
They're just wrong.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
It's wrong.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Look, Trump is a pathological liar.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Trump is he is.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Have you never seen anything Trump did the benefit of
somebody else, not him.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You can't answer right now, questioned him in his allies
as persistently as any journalist.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Well, I know you have. I'm not being critical.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I'm not being critical, but look, I mean, the man
is a congenital liar, as I said. They pointed out
in that debated life twenty seven, twenty eight times, the
Times or whatever number over twenty times talk about how
as good as economy was, how he brought down inflation,
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and how this is a guy who, unlike only other
presidents of other than him, and it's Hoover, lost more
jobs than he created. This is the guy told us
some completion in our arms to deal with COVID, but
over million people died.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
He didn't actually say that, but who cares, right? Joe
Biden claims that President Trump was lying about how he
brought down inflation, which was a one point four percent
when Biden took office, and then won't answer the question
about how bad things are now, right. He also, Joe
Biden says everyone is telling him to stand the race.
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Well that's just a lie as well, But this is
a deranged individual, not everyone's telling to stand the race.
Gearge Epanopolis is telling him to get out, right, Nancy
Pelosi is telling him to get out. Democratic donors are
telling me to get out. Op eds are telling him
to get it, get out. I mean, this is so
bad right now that you actually have the Economists that
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says why Biden must withdraw the president and is party
portrayed themselves the saviors of democracy? Their actions say otherwise.
They have the presidential seal on the front of a walker.
Even the front of the Economists magazine says, quote, no
way to run a country with the walker with the
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seal on it. Then they put out a tweet and
it says the president of debate was awful for Joe Biden,
but the cover up has been worse. The dishonesty of
his campaign provokes contempt. He must withdraw. All of the
media's turned on him. Okay, all of the media has
turned on him. They're not trying to save him. They
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know they have a short window to get him out,
and that's what they're moving to do.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And when Joe.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Biden's asked about all of the things that are happening,
like hey, should you even stay in the race? Right
Like He's like everyone's telling me say the race. That's
a lie. Everyone's telling you to get out of the race.
So that's why you're having to do this interview with George.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I mean, at a more practical level, Washington Pulls just
reported in the last hour that Senator Mark Warner is
assembling a group of senators together to try and convince
you to stand down because they don't think you can win.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Well, Mark is a good man. We've never had that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
He also tried to get the nomination to Mark'snott. Mark
and I have a different perspective. I respect him.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And if Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi
come down and say we're worried that if you stay
in the race, we're going to lose the house in
the Senate, how will you respond.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I've go into detail with them.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I've speaking of all of them in detail, including Jim Klein,
every one of them.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
They all said I should stay in the race. Stay
in the race. No one said. None of the people
said I should leave it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
But if they do, well, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Going to do that. You sure, well, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Look, I mean, if the Lord of Money came out
and said Joe get out of the race. I got
out the race, and Lord of Money's not coming down.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So he apparently knows God well enough to know that
God's like coming down to tell him to get out
of the race. I go back to what I said
at the very beginning, he doesn't have a plan. In fact,
we know he didn't have a plan, and he answered
this question for ABC News about the plan for his
campaign forget the country. He didn't have a plan for
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how to get out of that's just Hey, I'm going
to do some more events. I guess I'm not dropping out.
I'm the guy.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What's your plan to turn the campaign around?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I saw today? How many how many feature do you
draw crowds?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Like I?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Drin die if I'm any.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
More enthusiastics through today.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, I don't think you want to play the
crowd game. Donald Trump can draw a big crowds, There's
no question about that.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
And you' you can draw a big crowd. But what
does he saying? Who's he have? I'm the guy supposedly
in trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I don't think this interview helped. I don't think it
did anything to make anything better. I don't think it's
gonna make Democrats say, Okay, calm down. I think you've
got another two weeks of a full court press to
get him out. And I think the Democrats are going
to keep writing these articles. They're going to keep calling
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for him to step aside. I think you're going to
see so many different people say that he should step aside.
I think you're going to see them say it over
and over and over and over and over again. And
they're gonna do this for about two weeks now. In
two weeks, if he's still standing and they haven't gotten
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him out, then I think they'll shut up a little
bit and go all right, we're stuck with him, right.
I think you're going to see people like Kamala Harris,
for example, who are going to do nothing to help him.
I think she knows she's second in line, like it's
hers to basically have if he walks away, because she's
the only one that can keep the money in the
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campaign war chest. And I think that's an important point
aspect of this conversation. So you notice we hadn't seen
a lot of her. She's been real quiet. I think
that's on purpose. I think that's done deliberately by her.
I think she understands that this may be her opportunity
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to become the president of the United States of America.
And so everyone around him right now that knows the
polls are real and understands how bad the polls are
for him, they're going to sit there and try to
destroy him and undermine him. You're going to see them
do to him over the next fourteen days what they
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did during the entire four years of Donald Trump's presidency.
And if he can survive it, and there's a very
good chance that he can, let's be clear about that,
then what he's going to do is he's going to say, Okay,
I'm still the guy, I'm still standing, I'm still here.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You can't get rid of me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And they will all get right back behind him, and
they will tell you that things are getting better. They
will tell you that things are looking up. They will
tell you that things aren't that bad. That's what they're
going to do. The big question that everybody is asking
is is Joe Biden going home? Is he going to
go back to Delaware? Is he going to just drop
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out of the race. I want to be clear, I
don't think he's going to drop out. There's a lot
of reporting right now saying that the President is thinking
about dropping out. The Democrats are saying he's got to
drop out. They're losing their minds on TV. The media
is united against him getting out. The Democratic leadership is
united behind getting out. And Biden met with Democratic governors
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and the polls show that he is slipping in his support.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
President Biden huddled with a group of more than twenty
Democratic governors in an attempt to stabilize a standing among
his party's leaders. All right, the President was said to
be mowing the future of his candidcy with key allies,
and a new poll show that Donald Trump had a
widen lead over Joe Biden after the debate disaster. Donald
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Trump now leads President Biden forty nine to forty three
percent among likely voters Nationally. A new poll shows I
don't care about national polls that much because, yes, it
shows your trend, but it is a meany thing because
this all comes down to the electoral college.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So I look at swing states.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What I know right now is the President of the
United States of America, Joe Biden is behind Donald Trump
in every single swing state. Now in Michigan, Joe Biden
sought to reassure Democrats that her husband was up to
the job.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Not all there were convinced either.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
As we are going through this, as they're trying to
convince everybody before July fourth holiday that everything is going
to be just fine. Congressional Democrats have also now become
cautious when defending President Biden's ability to serve and also
win reelection because they're afraid, because all of them on
the House side are up for reelection right every two years,
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they're afraid that Joe Biden may make them lose some
of their seats. And then the question is who would
be the front runner right now if Joe Biden does
step aside. I think it's no doubt right now that
the front runner is Kama Harris. Why because she's the
only one that could actually use the money that's been
raised for the Biden Harris campaign, and it seems very
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problematic for someone to come in with no war chests
and have to start it at zero. Kama Harris would
start with the same amount of money that is in
their bank account right now. Harris is also growing the
support on social media among Democrats because I think they
also understand that the campaign is up and running. They
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don't have to start something new and they don't have
to start raising money from scratch. So you combine all
of those things. And yes, there's a lot going on.
But let me let you hear what Tim walt said.
Tim Waltz, governor walking out of this meeting at the
White House about eight o'clock on July third, and this
is what he said to the American people.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Yes, for office president, three and a half, three and
a half years of delivering for us, going through what
we've all been through. None of us are denying Thursday
night was a bad performance. It was a bad Uh,
it was a bad hit, if you will on that.
But it doesn't impact what I believe he's delivering.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
No, I always say this. In November, we've got a
clear choice. The President was very clear that he is
in this to winness, and the president is going to
if president is our nominee, the president is our party leader.
And the President has told us and he was very
clear back there that he is in this to witness.
And so for people, I would say and listen, we're governors.
We don't do handering. That's not what we do. Governor's
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work and get things done. Governor says, tell me the objective,
and we're going to make sure that we accomplish the objective.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And so for people.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
Who who who are who are concerned, I just want
to be very clear on something. And come November, we've
got a binary choice, and the binary choices between someone
who has continually delivered for us in our states and
the people of our states, and frankly, someone who's vision
for the future of this country is downright dangerous. And
so I would tell people it is time to mount up,
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and it is time to get serious and understands this.
Did the President explain that his debt to you on
Thursday night understand the state?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah? Yeah he did, he said, Look he did.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
He didn't listen to himself.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
But I thought he gave a great example when he said, look,
I'm worrying about numbers on this. It's about people, It's
about their lives. This is Joe fram Scranton. He talks
about building the middle class. He did it, he delivered.
And I think this idea that you get in your
own head, you get a little bit cycled up on that.
What we saw him there today was.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
A guy who was the guy that all of us
believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump,
and did beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
With that thank you, and they rushed off.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Now those Democratic governors that went before that microphone are
saying in a very united front, he is still our guy.
On TV, however, the Democrats on TV are saying something
very very different. We have a second House Democrat that
is now calling on Biden to drop out of the
twenty twenty four race publicly. Then a third came forward,
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Representative Moulton, saying, I have grave concerns that Biden can
beat Trump.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So it's not even about that Kaigna decline.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's about, hey, if this guy's gonna lose, he may
make some of us lose. So we're going to bail
on him selfishly because now we no longer like him.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And I want you to hear what CNN said.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
A bunch of Democrats on there and they're talking about this.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
Listen, thoughts are because I've heard that message for months,
right that look at the record, and if he just
articulates the record, that will show in the numbers.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But it hasn't.
Speaker 12 (30:27):
It hasn't shown in the numbers, and those numbers are
getting worse. And he didn't show an ability to make
that case aggressively in the debate. So I wonder where
that leaves us in your view.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Look, I just going to be honest.
Speaker 13 (30:41):
I mean, everybody comes on the air and says all
this great stuff, but behind the scenes it's.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
A full skill panic.
Speaker 13 (30:46):
People are passing around legal memos, PDFs with flying back
and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out what are
the options. How can you replace Biden? How do you
get him to do it in a way where he
feels respected? If he should be respected, who should Kamala
Harris's vice president be. The conversation on air and the
conversation off air are completely different. And so it's the
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same thing with you saw with the Trump situation where
people would come on air and defend Trump and then
you talk to people and then we got a crazy candidate.
We don't have a crazy candidate. We have a great candidate.
We have a beautiful man. We have someone who loves
this country. We have someone who has given his all,
I mean his all to the last drop for this country.
But he may not be able to get across the
finish line. And a mature party has to take that
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into account, and that is what's happening. And so look,
I understand that people want to, you know, defend him
and protect him and give him their space and the
dignity to make his own choice. But there is a
big conversation happening right now about how this happens, not weather.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
How this happens not weather.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You notice how now, all of a sudden this has
started to really change the dynamic.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Here.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
They're saying, I want to get rid of.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Him, and I want to get rid of him right now,
and he has to understand that it's time for us
to get rid of him, and we need him to
go away, and we need him to do it in
a responsible manner, and we're going to push him. Then
you have those the White House who are saying, well,
maybe he doesn't need to go, maybe it's too hard.
And then the question is does Harris. If Harris is
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the one that's going to get everything right, like all
the money, and she becomes a candidate, does she have
a better chance against Donald Trump? That is a fair
question that also needs to be asked now. By the way,
on a side note, the White House is not helping Okay,
the White House is not doing a very good job
of helping at all.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Right now, when they're asked.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Basic questions, Listen to White House Press Secretary being asked
about the new excuse that Joe Biden suffered from jet
lag and that's why he didn't do well at the
last debate.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
There's no question that international travel can be rigorous. I
think the confusion is that he's still suffering from the
effects of that nearly two weeks later. So I can
you articulate a little bit about, like, do you guys
can usually have accommodations for him after he does a
trip that he's going to have jet lag for that
long a period of time.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So can you can you when you say two weeks later,
what do you mean the debate?
Speaker 14 (33:15):
He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen
days before the debate, So his explanation for a four
debate performance is jetlag.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
So what I want to say is it's the jet
lag and also the cold, right. It is the two things,
and that occurred, and you all heard it in his
voice when he did the debate, right, And it is
not even something that we shared ahead of time. You
heard it in his voice and we confirmed it. And
I think that's important to note as well, like it
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is the jet lag and the cold. But I want
to be really I want to be really clearer. This
is not an excuse, right, This is not an excuse.
You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're
giving it an explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It is not an excuse.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I don't want that to be the leading piece of
this ask for the only reason we're sharing this because
it was asked of me here and the President certainly
wanted to give an explanation himself, and that's what he
did yesterday.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
We want to We.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Understand that it wasn't his best night. It wasn't a
great debate. We understand that, and we understand what supporters saw,
what the American people saw, and what you all saw,
and so we wanted to give an explanation. So I
don't want to get into this or are you giving
this excuse that excuse. We're giving you what our explanation was.
(34:31):
We want to continue to make sure that we do
everything that we can to deliver for the American people.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
That's what we're going to continue to do.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I mean, this is one of those when you just
got to laugh.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Joe Biden they're saying, the reason why I had a
bad debate is because he suffered from jet lag, and
that would have been fourteen days before the debate.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Two weeks before the debate.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
They're saying, we had jet lag, and so therefore that's
why I had a bad night is because of the
jet lag from two weeks prior vacation.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But we're not making excuses.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
If I was Joe Biden, by the way, i'd be
firing the White House Press secretary right now because she's
only making you look like you're more incompetent. Make sure
you share this podcast with your family and friends, please,
because a lot of what I just played for you're
not going to hear on the news.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
And I'll see you back here tomorrow
All right, So Joe Biden does this interview with George Stepanopolis,
and the reason why he did this interview is pretty simple.
He's trying to say, hey, we don't I'm not totally senile,
I'm in charge, I'm the president. Everything's okay. You don't
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need to worry. It was just a bad night, and
that was the message that he needed to send to
the American people. If you watch the interview, I don't
think it was a disaster. I also don't think it
helped him at all. I don't think that it helped
him actually in any capacity. I think it just kind
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of solidified what we were all thinking, and what we
were all thinking, is this a really old, seenile guy.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I also want to go back to something else that
I've said for quite some time, and that's this. I
believe that this is going to go down history as
the biggest cover up in modern political history of the
cognitive decline of Joe Biden. We're going to find out
that everybody around him, for not weeks, not months, but years,
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has been covering for his declining health and mental incapacity.
I also think we're going to find out that Joe
Biden wasn't actually running the country. And that's something else
that I think is really important that we understand that.
Like I don't believe that he's in charge. I don't
believe that he's actually the president. I think he's president
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name only. But who is running the government right now?
Because it is not this guy? And I think most
people would agree with me that he is not running
the country. So let's also just deal with that reality
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
In this interview, he was trying to explain that, hey,
I just had a bad night, I had a cold,
I was jetlagged from twelve fourteen days before the debate,
and I just got too tired.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And that's just the way that it is.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, that was the goal here, That's what he was
trying to explain or solidify to the American people. It
did not go well because his answers, well, they were
pretty much terrible. I'm going to go through this even
in the first excerpt that ABC News put out, And
I also want to say something else. I saw a
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lot of people online like, man, Georgepnopolis is not letting
out man. He's hard hitting tonight in this interview, do
not give him any credit and let me explain why
he was brought in to be a hit man for
the Democratic Party to take out Joe Biden in this interview.
He was there put there by the Democratic Party, by
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the elite in Washington, by the donors right, because he
is a hardcore Democratic operative that masquerades as an ABC
News guy. Now he was Bill Clinton's guy, and they said,
with the final nails in the coffin, and that was
his objective in this interview. And you could tell from
the very beginning he had his marching orders. The Democratic Party,
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the establishment, the money people, and everybody else in the
media were saying to George, go take out Joe Biden.
He was a hit man for the Democratic Party to
get rid of him, because at the end of the day,
the only thing this really is about is the Democrats
now believe that Joe Biden can't beat Donald Trump. And
since they believe that now since the last debate, they
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want to get rid of Joe Biden, and they're turning
on him and they're all united against him because they
want him gone. Now can they stay this way through election?
They know there's about a two week window here for
them to get rid of him. If they don't then
they'll have to jump behind him and say, you know what,
he's doing much better, and you know what, he did
have a cold, and they'll go back to all the
lies they've been telling us for the last three years
about Joe Biden's cognitive decline. But right now the media
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has turned on the president, clearly, the liberal media. They
want him gone. They want someone else because they don't
want to lose power. And I want you to listen
to this first question from George. This is the one
they released, and I want you to listen to Joe
Biden's excuses slash response.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Let's start with a debate.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You and your team have said you had a bad night,
but your friend Nancy Pelosi actually framed the question I
think is on.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The minds of millions of Americans.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Was this a bad episode with a sign of a
more serious condition.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
It was a bad episode, no indication any serious condition.
I was exhausted. I did listen to my instincts in
terms of preparents and the bad nights.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, you say you were exhausted, and I know
you've said that before as well, but you came and
you did have a tough mind.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But you came home from Europe about eleven.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Or twelve days before the debate, spent six days in
Camp David.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Why wasn't that enough rest time, enough recovery?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Because I was sick. I was feeling terrible. As matter
of fact, the doc's with me, I asked him. They
did a COVID test. But you're trying to figure out
what's wrong. You did a test to see whether or
not I had some infection, you know, lirus.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I didn't. I just had a really bad cold.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Now you notice the language that was used there by
George Stepanopolis. This is language to take out the president.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Was your humiliating debate a bad episode or a sign
of a more serious condition? So now they're accusing the
president implying that he has dementia or Alzheimer's. Biden's response quote,
I was exhausted, ABC. Why wasn't your week holdaway at
Camp David enough rest time?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Biden? I just had a really bad cold.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now there were some that would think at that moment, right,
all right, Well then Stepanopolis would kind of like let up.
He didn't why because his job was to take out
the president? Keep listening.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Did you ever watch the debate afterwards?
Speaker 6 (05:57):
I don't think I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That is the Joe Biden that everyone saw during debate
the other night. Not a hard question. Did you ever
watch the debate afterwards? Joe Biden? I don't think I did.
I don't think I did. You wouldn't know if you
watched the damn debate after the debate. Now, I want
(06:22):
to be clear, I don't think Joe Biden had to
watch the debate like he knew it was a disaster.
He knew it was a train wreck everybody around him.
You may go back and watch the debate again to
get ready for the next debate in theory right, and
see what mistakes you made, and not to take debate
or whatever it may be for planning purposes. But the
question was did you ever watch the debate after the debate?
(06:44):
Biden quote? I don't think I did. The fact that
he can't even remember if he did or didn't watch
the worst debate in political history after he did, it
tells you how far gone this guy is. And listen,
stepping off was again goes all in to take out by.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, don't try.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
What I want to get at is what were you
experiencing as you were going through the debate.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Did you know how badly it was going?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yeah, look the whole way I prepared nobody's fault of mind,
nobody's help of mind. I prepared what I usually would do,
sitting down as I did, come back foreign leaders or
the National Security Council.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
For explicit details.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And I realized part way through that, you know, although
I get quoted The New York Times had me down
at ten points before the debate nine now or whatever
the hell it is, the fact of the matter is
that what I looked at is that he also lied
twenty eight times. I couldn't. I mean, the way the
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debate ran not my fault. Nobody else is all. No
one else is all.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But it seemed like you were having trouble from the
first question in, even before he spoke, well, I just
had a bad night.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, I just had a bad night. So that is
the excuse.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
They've clearly planned out that excuse, They've explained that excuse,
They've made it abundantly clear that that excuse is going
to be the excuse they're going to use the entire time. Right, Well,
I just had a bad night. I just had a
bad night. I just had a bad night. Is that
enough to turn it around. I don't think so. I
don't think that excuse is going to fly with the
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American people. And then it got even worse for him
because there were other questions that he asked, and they
are ones that were not I got your questions, per se,
but there's certainly questions that the president couldn't answer.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
For example, do you dispute that there have been more laughses,
especially in the last several months.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Can I run one hundred and ten flat?
Speaker 7 (08:53):
No?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
But I'm still in good shape.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Are you more frail?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
No? I know you spoke at my schedule.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Come look at my schedule. So again, do you dispute
that there have been more lapses, especially in the last
several months, Biden, I'm still in good shape.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Are you more frail? Bien?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And look, everybody watching this knows he's more frail. George
Spinopolis knows it. The only difference is they've been lying
to you about how frail he's been for years, and
now they want to get rid of him because they
think he's going to lose to Trump. So this is again,
don't give credit to George Sepanopolis for actually asking tough
questions and not backing down. He was given marching orders
(09:34):
to the Democratic Party and the machine go take out
the president of the United States of America, and he
tried his damnedest to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So you spoke with your doctor after the debate. What
did he say?
Speaker 6 (09:45):
He said, he just looked at me. He said, you're exhausted.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I said, I am medical doctor's child. We everywhere every
president knows that. You know, medical doctors some of the
best in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Child.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We everywhere I go, I have an ongoing assessment of
what I'm doing. They don't hesitate to tell me if
they think they'reself the wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't believe this, and I don't think anyone else does.
Biden says his doctor quote just looked at him after
this humiliating debate performance and said, you're exhausted. He spent
an entire week hold up at Camp David, resting and
preparing for the debate. And now he wants you to
believe that the problem was jetlag and a cold. Now,
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the President got away with some generic answers early on Stepanopolis,
And again, don't give him credit because he was sent
to do this interview to take out Joe Biden by
the Democratic Party. And then he was started to really
ask about mental capacity, and have you had neurological tests
that were done? Have you had a cognitive evaluation for
(10:50):
a full using words like Republicans have been using and
Donald trumpan using words like quote full neurological and cognitive evaluation?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mister president, the president say listen, I.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Know you say you have an ongoing assistant.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Have you had a full neurological and cognitive evaluation?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I get a full neurological test every day with me,
and I've had a full physical I had, you know,
I mean I've been able to read through my physicals.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I mean, yes, answers.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I know he's lying, right.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Biden admits he has not had a full neurological and
cognitive evaluation. He says he has one every day. No,
he doesn't. Now if he's taken one, they've hidden it.
They certainly haven't given to the American people like they
certainly haven't told us. And we deserve to know this.
And that's why stepping up what is saying this because
he knows he can't answer the question. So then ABC
(11:48):
News moves on to this, Well, look like, can you
be effective right what we're watching right? Now is someone
that's not effective, right, So let's ask the question and
listen to the response from Biden, which literally doesn't make
sense when he claims that he's quote the guy that
shut down Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine. He's
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not shut him down at all.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Elections are about the future, not the past. They're about
tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yesterday, And the question on so many people's minds right
now is can you serve effectively for the next four years.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
George, I'm the guy that put NATO together the future.
No one thought they could expand it. I'm the guy
that shut Putin down no one thought could happen. I'm
the guy that put together the South Pacific Initiative with Alcus.
I'm the guy that got fifty nations not only in Europe,
outside of Europe as well to help Ukraine. I'm the
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guy that got Japanese to expand their budget. So I mean,
for example, when I decided we used to have forty
percent of.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
The computer chip and we invented the chip, that little
chip in the computer.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Chip, I mean, this is not an answer to the question.
It's not even close to an answer to the question.
That was asked, and the question that was asked he
did not answer. There was no solid answers from the
present there. I'm the guy who's shut down Putin, Like,
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what world are you living in? You haven't shut down
Vladimir Putin. And then the other question he went back
to afterwards, and the question was, all right, are the
American people going to get to actually see any medical
records on you? Are you going to take a medical evaluation,
an independent cognitive, you know, evaluation, so that that the
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American people don't have to just trust you and the
White House who's been lying to us about your condition
listen to the President refused to say the American people, yes,
you can see that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yes, I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation
that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
And release the results to the American people?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every
day I have that test.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean again, he says the same thing he said
earlier lying to the American people. He also was asked
about the reality of the polling data. Hey, mister President,
your polling numbers are dismal. We've never seen somebody be
elected with a thirty what is it six percent approval rating?
Like this is really bad? What did Joe Biden say
(14:28):
in response to that? To George Spanopolis, Listen, it's been.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
A two man race for several months. Inflation has come
down in those last few months. He's become a convicted felon. Yeah,
you're still falling further behind you.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Guys keep saying that, George, do you look, do you know,
pulling better than anybody?
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Do you think polling data as accurate as it used
to be?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't think so, But I think when you look
at all of the polling data right now, it shows
that he's certainly ahead in the popular vote, probably even
more ahead in the battleground states. The other key factors
there is it shows that in many of the battleground states,
the Democrats who are running for cent in the House
are doing better than you are.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, that's not unusual in some states.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
But carried an alf a lot of Democrats last time
I ran in twenty twenty. Look, I remember them telling
me the same thing in twenty twenty. I can't win.
The poll show I can't win. Remember twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty the red way was coming before the vote.
I said, that's not going to happen. We're going to win.
We did better in off throw than almost any income
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a president ever has done.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
This is the host.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why are you so behind President Trump? Do you think
that polling that is accurate? Well, President Trump is certainly ahead.
Biden then basically brain malfunctions and is confused and then
starts talking about other issues that have nothing to do
with that. Joe Biden's claiming he's not behind in the race.
Everyone knows he's behind the race.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Do you really believe you're not behind right now? I
think it's all pulsters I talked to tell me it's
a toss up. It's a toss up. And when I'm behind,
there's only one poll I'm really far behind. CBS poll
and NBC, I mean, excuse me, and.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
New York Times.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
In NBC both you have you about six points behind
in the popular vote.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
New York Times had me behind before anything happened to
do with this race, had me behind behind ten points,
ten points had me behind, not this chase of chases
in the debate.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So, in other words, don't believe you're lying eyes yet again,
I'm not behind the race. Why well, my polling data
tells me you're wrong, and I don't believe your your polls.
And then George Stepanopps tries to even help him there,
rescue him a little bit, right, say well, it's actually
when he can't remember where the other poll came from,
stepping off was in step tent Is like, yeah, it's
(16:57):
New York Times, mister President, like he was actually I
think he felt bad for him, And then he insists
his humiliating debate performance didn't negatively impact him. He's looking
at George Epanopolis and telling George my debate did not
affect the polls at all.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That is insane.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Biden also claimed that he brought down inflation, which was
a perfect one point four percent when Joe Biden took office,
and they let him get away with this lie on ABC, Listen,
how do.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You respond to critics who say that by staying in
the race, you're doing the same thing?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Oh come on, well, I don't think those critics know
what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
They're just wrong.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
It's wrong.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Look, Trump is a pathological liar.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Trump is he is.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Have you never seen anything Trump did the benefit of
somebody else, not him.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You can't answer right now, questioned him in his allies
as persistently as any journalist.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Well, I know you have. I'm not being critical.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I'm not being critical, but look, I mean, the man
is a congenital liar, as I said. They pointed out
in that debated life twenty seven, twenty eight times, the
Times or whatever number over twenty times talk about how
as good as economy was, how he brought down inflation,
(18:27):
and how this is a guy who, unlike only other
presidents of other than him, and it's Hoover, lost more
jobs than he created. This is the guy told us
some completion in our arms to deal with COVID, but
over million people died.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
He didn't actually say that, but who cares, right? Joe
Biden claims that President Trump was lying about how he
brought down inflation, which was a one point four percent
when Biden took office, and then won't answer the question
about how bad things are now, right. He also, Joe
Biden says everyone is telling him to stand the race.
(19:01):
Well that's just a lie as well, But this is
a deranged individual, not everyone's telling to stand the race.
Gearge Epanopolis is telling him to get out, right, Nancy
Pelosi is telling him to get out. Democratic donors are
telling me to get out. Op eds are telling him
to get it, get out. I mean, this is so
bad right now that you actually have the Economists that
(19:21):
says why Biden must withdraw the president and is party
portrayed themselves the saviors of democracy? Their actions say otherwise.
They have the presidential seal on the front of a walker.
Even the front of the Economists magazine says, quote, no
way to run a country with the walker with the
(19:42):
seal on it. Then they put out a tweet and
it says the president of debate was awful for Joe Biden,
but the cover up has been worse. The dishonesty of
his campaign provokes contempt. He must withdraw. All of the
media's turned on him. Okay, all of the media has
turned on him. They're not trying to save him. They
(20:03):
know they have a short window to get him out,
and that's what they're moving to do.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And when Joe.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Biden's asked about all of the things that are happening,
like hey, should you even stay in the race? Right
Like He's like everyone's telling me say the race. That's
a lie. Everyone's telling you to get out of the race.
So that's why you're having to do this interview with George.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I mean, at a more practical level, Washington Pulls just
reported in the last hour that Senator Mark Warner is
assembling a group of senators together to try and convince
you to stand down because they don't think you can win.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Well, Mark is a good man. We've never had that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
He also tried to get the nomination to Mark'snott. Mark
and I have a different perspective. I respect him.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And if Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi
come down and say we're worried that if you stay
in the race, we're going to lose the house in
the Senate, how will you respond.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I've go into detail with them.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I've speaking of all of them in detail, including Jim Klein,
every one of them.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
They all said I should stay in the race. Stay
in the race. No one said. None of the people
said I should leave it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
But if they do, well, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Going to do that. You sure, well, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Look, I mean, if the Lord of Money came out
and said Joe get out of the race. I got
out the race, and Lord of Money's not coming down.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So he apparently knows God well enough to know that
God's like coming down to tell him to get out
of the race. I go back to what I said
at the very beginning, he doesn't have a plan. In fact,
we know he didn't have a plan, and he answered
this question for ABC News about the plan for his
campaign forget the country. He didn't have a plan for
(21:44):
how to get out of that's just Hey, I'm going
to do some more events. I guess I'm not dropping out.
I'm the guy.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What's your plan to turn the campaign around?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I saw today? How many how many feature do you
draw crowds?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Like I?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Drin die if I'm any.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
More enthusiastics through today.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean, I don't think you want to play the
crowd game. Donald Trump can draw a big crowds, There's
no question about that.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
And you' you can draw a big crowd. But what
does he saying? Who's he have? I'm the guy supposedly
in trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I don't think this interview helped. I don't think it
did anything to make anything better. I don't think it's
gonna make Democrats say, Okay, calm down. I think you've
got another two weeks of a full court press to
get him out. And I think the Democrats are going
to keep writing these articles. They're going to keep calling
(22:39):
for him to step aside. I think you're going to
see so many different people say that he should step aside.
I think you're going to see them say it over
and over and over and over and over again. And
they're gonna do this for about two weeks now. In
two weeks, if he's still standing and they haven't gotten
(22:59):
him out, then I think they'll shut up a little
bit and go all right, we're stuck with him, right.
I think you're going to see people like Kamala Harris,
for example, who are going to do nothing to help him.
I think she knows she's second in line, like it's
hers to basically have if he walks away, because she's
the only one that can keep the money in the
(23:19):
campaign war chest. And I think that's an important point
aspect of this conversation. So you notice we hadn't seen
a lot of her. She's been real quiet. I think
that's on purpose. I think that's done deliberately by her.
I think she understands that this may be her opportunity
(23:40):
to become the president of the United States of America.
And so everyone around him right now that knows the
polls are real and understands how bad the polls are
for him, they're going to sit there and try to
destroy him and undermine him. You're going to see them
do to him over the next fourteen days what they
(24:00):
did during the entire four years of Donald Trump's presidency.
And if he can survive it, and there's a very
good chance that he can, let's be clear about that,
then what he's going to do is he's going to say, Okay,
I'm still the guy, I'm still standing, I'm still here.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You can't get rid of me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And they will all get right back behind him, and
they will tell you that things are getting better. They
will tell you that things are looking up. They will
tell you that things aren't that bad. That's what they're
going to do. The big question that everybody is asking
is is Joe Biden going home? Is he going to
go back to Delaware? Is he going to just drop
(24:39):
out of the race. I want to be clear, I
don't think he's going to drop out. There's a lot
of reporting right now saying that the President is thinking
about dropping out. The Democrats are saying he's got to
drop out. They're losing their minds on TV. The media
is united against him getting out. The Democratic leadership is
united behind getting out. And Biden met with Democratic governors
(25:03):
and the polls show that he is slipping in his support.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
President Biden huddled with a group of more than twenty
Democratic governors in an attempt to stabilize a standing among
his party's leaders. All right, the President was said to
be mowing the future of his candidcy with key allies,
and a new poll show that Donald Trump had a
widen lead over Joe Biden after the debate disaster. Donald
(25:29):
Trump now leads President Biden forty nine to forty three
percent among likely voters Nationally. A new poll shows I
don't care about national polls that much because, yes, it
shows your trend, but it is a meany thing because
this all comes down to the electoral college.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So I look at swing states.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What I know right now is the President of the
United States of America, Joe Biden is behind Donald Trump
in every single swing state. Now in Michigan, Joe Biden
sought to reassure Democrats that her husband was up to
the job.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Not all there were convinced either.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
As we are going through this, as they're trying to
convince everybody before July fourth holiday that everything is going
to be just fine. Congressional Democrats have also now become
cautious when defending President Biden's ability to serve and also
win reelection because they're afraid, because all of them on
the House side are up for reelection right every two years,
(26:25):
they're afraid that Joe Biden may make them lose some
of their seats. And then the question is who would
be the front runner right now if Joe Biden does
step aside. I think it's no doubt right now that
the front runner is Kama Harris. Why because she's the
only one that could actually use the money that's been
raised for the Biden Harris campaign, and it seems very
(26:46):
problematic for someone to come in with no war chests
and have to start it at zero. Kama Harris would
start with the same amount of money that is in
their bank account right now. Harris is also growing the
support on social media among Democrats because I think they
also understand that the campaign is up and running. They
(27:07):
don't have to start something new and they don't have
to start raising money from scratch. So you combine all
of those things. And yes, there's a lot going on.
But let me let you hear what Tim walt said.
Tim Waltz, governor walking out of this meeting at the
White House about eight o'clock on July third, and this
is what he said to the American people.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Yes, for office president, three and a half, three and
a half years of delivering for us, going through what
we've all been through. None of us are denying Thursday
night was a bad performance. It was a bad Uh,
it was a bad hit, if you will on that.
But it doesn't impact what I believe he's delivering.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
No, I always say this. In November, we've got a
clear choice. The President was very clear that he is
in this to winness, and the president is going to
if president is our nominee, the president is our party leader.
And the President has told us and he was very
clear back there that he is in this to witness.
And so for people, I would say and listen, we're governors.
We don't do handering. That's not what we do. Governor's
(28:17):
work and get things done. Governor says, tell me the objective,
and we're going to make sure that we accomplish the objective.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And so for people.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
Who who who are who are concerned, I just want
to be very clear on something. And come November, we've
got a binary choice, and the binary choices between someone
who has continually delivered for us in our states and
the people of our states, and frankly, someone who's vision
for the future of this country is downright dangerous. And
so I would tell people it is time to mount up,
(28:45):
and it is time to get serious and understands this.
Did the President explain that his debt to you on
Thursday night understand the state?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah? Yeah he did, he said, Look he did.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
He didn't listen to himself.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
But I thought he gave a great example when he said, look,
I'm worrying about numbers on this. It's about people, It's
about their lives. This is Joe fram Scranton. He talks
about building the middle class. He did it, he delivered.
And I think this idea that you get in your
own head, you get a little bit cycled up on that.
What we saw him there today was.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
A guy who was the guy that all of us
believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump,
and did beat Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
With that thank you, and they rushed off.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Now those Democratic governors that went before that microphone are
saying in a very united front, he is still our guy.
On TV, however, the Democrats on TV are saying something
very very different. We have a second House Democrat that
is now calling on Biden to drop out of the
twenty twenty four race publicly. Then a third came forward,
(29:52):
Representative Moulton, saying, I have grave concerns that Biden can
beat Trump.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So it's not even about that Kaigna decline.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's about, hey, if this guy's gonna lose, he may
make some of us lose. So we're going to bail
on him selfishly because now we no longer like him.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And I want you to hear what CNN said.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
A bunch of Democrats on there and they're talking about this.
Speaker 12 (30:17):
Listen, thoughts are because I've heard that message for months,
right that look at the record, and if he just
articulates the record, that will show in the numbers.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But it hasn't.
Speaker 12 (30:27):
It hasn't shown in the numbers, and those numbers are
getting worse. And he didn't show an ability to make
that case aggressively in the debate. So I wonder where
that leaves us in your view.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Look, I just going to be honest.
Speaker 13 (30:41):
I mean, everybody comes on the air and says all
this great stuff, but behind the scenes it's.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
A full skill panic.
Speaker 13 (30:46):
People are passing around legal memos, PDFs with flying back
and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out what are
the options. How can you replace Biden? How do you
get him to do it in a way where he
feels respected? If he should be respected, who should Kamala
Harris's vice president be. The conversation on air and the
conversation off air are completely different. And so it's the
(31:09):
same thing with you saw with the Trump situation where
people would come on air and defend Trump and then
you talk to people and then we got a crazy candidate.
We don't have a crazy candidate. We have a great candidate.
We have a beautiful man. We have someone who loves
this country. We have someone who has given his all,
I mean his all to the last drop for this country.
But he may not be able to get across the
finish line. And a mature party has to take that
(31:30):
into account, and that is what's happening. And so look,
I understand that people want to, you know, defend him
and protect him and give him their space and the
dignity to make his own choice. But there is a
big conversation happening right now about how this happens, not weather.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
How this happens not weather.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You notice how now, all of a sudden this has
started to really change the dynamic.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Here.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
They're saying, I want to get rid of.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Him, and I want to get rid of him right now,
and he has to understand that it's time for us
to get rid of him, and we need him to
go away, and we need him to do it in
a responsible manner, and we're going to push him. Then
you have those the White House who are saying, well,
maybe he doesn't need to go, maybe it's too hard.
And then the question is does Harris. If Harris is
(32:17):
the one that's going to get everything right, like all
the money, and she becomes a candidate, does she have
a better chance against Donald Trump? That is a fair
question that also needs to be asked now. By the way,
on a side note, the White House is not helping Okay,
the White House is not doing a very good job
of helping at all.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Right now, when they're asked.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Basic questions, Listen to White House Press Secretary being asked
about the new excuse that Joe Biden suffered from jet
lag and that's why he didn't do well at the
last debate.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 14 (32:53):
There's no question that international travel can be rigorous. I
think the confusion is that he's still suffering from the
effects of that nearly two weeks later. So I can
you articulate a little bit about, like, do you guys
can usually have accommodations for him after he does a
trip that he's going to have jet lag for that
long a period of time.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So can you can you when you say two weeks later,
what do you mean the debate?
Speaker 14 (33:15):
He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen
days before the debate, So his explanation for a four
debate performance is jetlag.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
So what I want to say is it's the jet
lag and also the cold, right. It is the two things,
and that occurred, and you all heard it in his
voice when he did the debate, right, And it is
not even something that we shared ahead of time. You
heard it in his voice and we confirmed it. And
I think that's important to note as well, like it
(33:44):
is the jet lag and the cold. But I want
to be really I want to be really clearer. This
is not an excuse, right, This is not an excuse.
You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're
giving it an explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It is not an excuse.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I don't want that to be the leading piece of
this ask for the only reason we're sharing this because
it was asked of me here and the President certainly
wanted to give an explanation himself, and that's what he
did yesterday.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
We want to We.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Understand that it wasn't his best night. It wasn't a
great debate. We understand that, and we understand what supporters saw,
what the American people saw, and what you all saw,
and so we wanted to give an explanation. So I
don't want to get into this or are you giving
this excuse that excuse. We're giving you what our explanation was.
(34:31):
We want to continue to make sure that we do
everything that we can to deliver for the American people.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
That's what we're going to continue to do.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I mean, this is one of those when you just
got to laugh.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Joe Biden they're saying, the reason why I had a
bad debate is because he suffered from jet lag, and
that would have been fourteen days before the debate.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Two weeks before the debate.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
They're saying, we had jet lag, and so therefore that's
why I had a bad night is because of the
jet lag from two weeks prior vacation.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But we're not making excuses.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
If I was Joe Biden, by the way, i'd be
firing the White House Press secretary right now because she's
only making you look like you're more incompetent. Make sure
you share this podcast with your family and friends, please,
because a lot of what I just played for you're
not going to hear on the news.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
And I'll see you back here tomorrow
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