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July 16, 2025 14 mins

1. Allegations Regarding President Joe Biden’s Use of the Autopen for Pardons

  • The podcast claims that President Biden may not have been fully aware of what he was signing via autopen during his final days in office.
  • It references a New York Times article and a forthcoming book titled Original Sin.
  • Allegations include:
    • Biden’s inner circle blocked him from campaign prep and briefings.
    • Chief of Staff Jeff Zients approved the use of the autopen for multiple preemptive pardons, including for Anthony Fauci and General Mark Milley.
    • The legitimacy of these pardons is questioned, with Donald Trump calling it a major scandal.
  • The narrative suggests that Biden’s aides, not the President himself, made final decisions on pardons.

2. Proposed Legislation to Designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a Terrorist Organization

  • Senator Ted Cruz is introducing the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act of 2025.
  • The bill proposes a bottom-up approach to designation, differing from past efforts that failed due to the non-violent status of some Brotherhood branches.
  • It urges Secretary of State Marco Rubio to:
    • Catalog global branches of the Muslim Brotherhood.
    • Designate those meeting terrorism criteria.
  • The bill outlines three pathways for designation:
    1. Congressional action under the 1987 Anti-Terrorism Act.
    2. State Department designation.
    3. Designation as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist group.
  • The legislation is supported by GOP senators and aligns with actions taken by countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.
  • Cruz compares this effort to Trump’s 2017 designation of Iran’s IRGC as a terrorist group.
  • The document includes Cruz’s direct statements, emphasizing the Brotherhood’s global reach, violent ideology, and alleged ties to groups like Hamas.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We had a big win with the Supreme Court on
the Department of Education, and we want, as you know.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
We want to bring education back to the States, take.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
The federal government out of it. A little tiny bit
of supervision, but very little, almost nothing.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Like to make sure they speak English. That's about all
we need.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Good Wednesday morning. So nice to have you with us
on the forty seven Morning Update. And we've got two
major stories we're going to be dealing with this morning.
First up, Joe Biden in serious trouble with the auto pen.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Apparently he was not the one making the decisions.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
At the end of the day when it came to
who was going to receive a presidential pardon in the
final hours of his presidency. This could spell major issues
for people like doctor Anthony Fauci, and I'll have more
on that in a moment. Also, the Muslim Brotherhood is
an organization that many other countries have already designated as
a terrorist organization, Yet why has the UN It's America

(01:00):
not done so so far? Well, there's new legislation to
make that happen, and it could be a major moment
for this White House, including the possibility of an executive order.
We'll have those details for you as well. It's the
forty seven Morning Update and it starts right now. Story
number one in a shocking article coming from the New

(01:21):
York Times, Yes, that New York Times, the liberal New
York Times, they are now claiming that Joe Biden did
not know what he was signing when it came to
many of the pardons on his way out of office.
And the New York Times article by Tyler Peger this
week coming out, quoting from the forthcoming book Original Sin,

(01:42):
stated that Biden's inner circle blocked Joe Biden from campaign
prep and removed him from pole briefings. We're now learning
even more about what was actually happening around the president.
It was more than just blocking him from those types
of things. But apparently he didn't know what he was
signing when it came to the auto pen.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Donald Trump saying this about the president.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Listen carefully, right, I get we get thousands of letters
a week. Says here write thousands, I mean tens of thousands.
Sometimes I look at a room. There's a room where
we have many, many people working, responding and sending letters back.
That's what an autopen supposed to be. To write to
a young seven year old boy that writes to the

(02:28):
president and he wants to be president someday and he
loves America. That's what the autopen's supposed to be. It's
not supposed to be for signing major legislation and all
of the things. No, the outopen, and I doubt he knew.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I doubt I doubt they even.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Spoke to him about it. I think they had. It's
called a free wheeling autopen. Like Biden was never for
open borders. Biden was never for transgender for everyone. So
I don't think he I think the radical left people
that took the took over the White House, and if
I didn't win, our country was finished.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Not only did President Trump say that, but he went
on to say this as well.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Look, the auto pen, I think is maybe one of
the biggest scandals that we've had in fifty to one
hundred years. This is a tremendous scandal. And I know
the people on the other side of the Oscia desk,
that resolute desk unfortunately used it before me. But you know,
we have our choice of seven disks. You're all beautiful,

(03:32):
But I chose the resolute and so did he. Unfortunately,
but the people on the other side of the resolute
desk I know them, Lisa, the whole group, and they're
no good. There's sick people. And I guarantee he knew
nothing about what he was signing. I guarantee it.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
This comes on top of new reporting that Biden's chief
of staff reportedly gave approval for autopen pardons on the
final day in office, saying, quote, I approved the use
of the autopen for the execution of all of the
following pardons.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Biden's chief of staff.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Jeff Zenz wrote in an email, it's actually a paper
trail now the former president, Joe Biden's chief of staff
issuing the final approval for multiple high profile preemptive pardons
during Biden's final days in office. Biden's alleged use to
the autopen has become a sticking point now for are
these pardons actually real? Donald Trump has said thousands of

(04:35):
pardons that Biden signed were void and claimed that the
former president did not know what documents he was signing
through the autopen device. Now, Biden has issued a series
of preemptive pardons in the final days when he was
the president, including the former chief Medical Advisor to the President,
Anthony Fauci and the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, General Mark Millie, an attempt to safeguard them

(04:58):
from retribution. He called that from Donald Trump. Now in
an article intended to be his defense of the autopen issue,
it emerged that although Biden reportedly made the decision in
a meeting, Biden's chief of staff is the one who
gave final approval for the use of the auto pen,
at least in the case of Fauci and Millie. The

(05:20):
New York Times is now confirming. On Biden's final day
as president, January nineteenth, Biden had a meeting with his
aids until nearly ten pm to talk about various preemptive pardons.
Emails obtained by The Times show that an AIDS in
a summary draft of the decisions formalized during the meeting

(05:41):
to the assistant of the Chief of Staff at ten
oh three pm. The assistant then sent the email to
the Chief of Staff and others present in the meeting,
requesting approval from the Chief of Staff, not the President,
and the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Bruce will
read at ten twenty eight. The Times is also reporting

(06:02):
the chief of staff then replied, all to the email.
Three months later, I approved the use of the auto
pen for the execution of all of the following pardons.
Biden's chief of staff sent an email, according to Times,
guess what. That chief of staff could not be immediately
reached for comment when being asked about all of this now. Additionally,
the Times report said Biden did not personally approve each

(06:26):
name included in the broad categorical pardons. Rather, after extends
a discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on
the standards he wanted to be used to determine which
convicts would qualify for reduction in sentence. The Time states.
When asked about the Times report, Donald Trump telling reporters

(06:47):
of the White House that Biden's alleged use to the
autopen amounts to possibly again one of the biggest scannals
that we've had in fifty to one hundred years. So
now it is going to be up to the court
decide are these pardons actually legitimate or are people like
doctor Anthony Fauci finally gonna have to face the music.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now story number two, it is a very important.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Piece of legislation that very well could become an executive
order and finally be done in the US something that's
already been done around the world. Texas GOP Center Ted
Cruz is set to introduce a bill that would formally
designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, the Muslim
Brotherhood Terrorists Designation Act of twenty twenty five, which follows

(07:35):
repeated attempts to name the group of terrorist organization. Now
it differs from previous versions as it calls for a
bottom up approach, and, according to a fact she provided
by Sentaer Cruis office, the previous attempts failed because quote,
not all Muslim Brotherhood branches are currently violent and wouldn't

(07:56):
therefore meet the criteria for designation. Now, let's be clear
about what other countries are doing. Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Aradibia, Syria,
and the United Air of Emirates already designate the Muslim
Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. The bill urges Secretary of
State Marco Rubio to catalog Muslim Brotherhood branches that are

(08:17):
designated as terrorist groups and designated additional ones that meet
relevant criteria, and mandates the designation of the Global Muslim
Brotherhood for its support for those terrorist groups that approach
actually mirrors with President Donald Trump did in twenty seventeen
in his effort to sanction Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard known

(08:39):
as the IRGC, an effort that designated the IRGC is
a foreign terrorist group. Now, Cruz's effort is openly supported
by GOP centers from Arkansas, Tom Cotton, for example, and
Rick Scott and Florida, as well as Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania.
Arab allies also appear ready to back the initiative, with

(09:00):
one official telling The Free Beacon in June that any
of the countries in the Middle East that have already
designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization would welcome
the United States doing the same thing now. Cruis's bill
would use three ways to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a
terrorist organization, Congressional action under the nineteen eighty seven Anti

(09:21):
Terrorism Act, the State Department recognizing the Muslim Brotherhood as
a terrorist organization, and specific designation as a specially designated
global terrorist group. This is just some of what they're
now looking at now. The Secretary of State Marco Rubio
would have ninety days after the bill passes to submit
a report to Congress cataloging all Muslim Brotherhood branches around

(09:44):
the globe. The legislation would instruct him to designate any
identified group that meets the criteria. The bill then authorizes
a formal designation for the Muslim Brotherhood's global operation under
the nineteen eighty seven ATA, creating a primary embargo under
which Americans are banned from engaging in financial transactions with

(10:05):
the group and rendering its services.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
In April, Jordan, the country banned the Muslim Brotherhood from
the country altogether according to their charter. The terrorist group
Hamas is a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim
Brotherhood assassinated Egyptian president Inwarsadada in nineteen eighty one for
making peace, by the way, with Israel. The Muslim Brotherhood's
goal is clear to turn the world into a theocratic empire.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Stand with us. Has also said.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in the Egyptian nineteen twenty eight,
is a revolutionary fundamentalist movement to restore the caliphate and
strict Sharia. Islamic law is something that they demand. I
want you to hear more directly from what Centater Cruz
had to say about this legislation and also the fact
that this could become an executive order.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
The Muslim Brotherhood is a global Islamist violent organisation. It
was founded in nineteen twenty eight in Egypt. It was
a fringe group for the first few decades, and then
it grew dramatically inside of Egypt, and then it spread beyond.
The Muslim Brotherhood has branches and countries and territories all
over the world, and they are openly committed to seizing

(11:17):
control of those countries and seizing control of those territories.
They explicitly intend to use violent jihad to overthrow non
Islamist governments. During the Obama administration, they did. They seized
control of Egypt. Mohammed Morci and the Muslim Brotherhood seized
control until they were ultimately overthrown by the Egyptian Army.

(11:41):
By the way, when the Muslim Brotherhood took over Egypt,
the Obama administration cheered them on. And how do we
know that the Muslim Brotherhood supports terrorism because several of
their branches are explicit terrorist organizations. Among those is Hamas
which everyone listening to this podcast knows about Hamas. Hamas

(12:02):
is one of the wings of the Muslim Brotherhood. They
also include other groups that folks may not have heard about,
like Hassum and Lewa al Thawrah, both of which the
State Department says have been associated with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood,
and they are branches that have already been formally designated

(12:23):
as terrorist groups. Other Brotherhood branches are committing terrorism right now,
but they haven't yet been formally designated. Just a few
weeks ago, the Jordanian government disrupted attacks being planned by
Brotherhood members and police raided the Islamic Action Front, which
is the Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood branch. I think it would

(12:45):
make a very good sense for us to vote on
it on the Senate floor, for John Thune to bring
it up and make senators vote. Most of the Democrats
are going to vote now. I think it'd be valuable
to get them on record, force them to vote. But
I'll tell you what I think the real path to
success will be is that we're going to lead the
fight in the Senate. I hope we tee this up
for a vote and if the Democrats block it, which

(13:10):
in all likelihood they will they have for a decade.
What I think is going to happen is I think
the President is going to do this through an executive order.
And I'm certainly urging President Trump to designate the Muslim
Brotherhood as a terrorist organization through an executive order. And
I think the fight that I'm leading in the Senate
helps build momentum for the President to step in and

(13:33):
make this designation. I think it's going to happen. I
think we're going to see it happen this term.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
There's no doubt the Muslim Brotherhood is a global terrorist organization.
In fact, they have chapters in eighty different countries. And
if you want to know what the Brotherhood thinks about America,
they want America to fall in twenty ten. They're Supreme
Guide told their followers to quote be patient because America
is heading towards its demise.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Make no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
It's longer for us to designate the Muslim Brotherhood is
a terrorist organization, and hopefully it's something the President will
be doing very soon.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update
with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever
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