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September 21, 2025 • 31 mins
  • Martyrdom & Spiritual Framing

    • Charlie Kirk is depicted as a martyr for Christianity and conservatism.

    • His words made him an “evangelist, apologist, and political strategist” who believed God gave was his platform.

    • His assassination is spiritual warfare.

  • Political Consequences

    • Conservatives unite after his death.

    • We portray accountability for left-leaning individuals (teachers, online users, military personnel) who allegedly celebrated the assassination, noting job losses, suspensions, and public exposure.

    • JD Vance (as Vice President) is said to host a tribute episode of the Charlie Kirk Show from the White House.

    • The Pentagon is depicted as cracking down on servicemembers celebrating the killing.

  • Cultural & Generational Commentary

    • The narrative contrasts left vs. right responses to anger (riots vs. prayer vigils).

    • Cites polling data suggesting younger generations (especially Gen Z) increasingly accept political violence.

    • Frames this as a product of “radical left indoctrination” in schools and universities.

  • Political Leaders’ Responses

    • Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is quoted at length from a vigil, portraying Kirk as a defender of faith, freedom, and debate.

    • President Biden (not named directly, but referenced) allegedly ordered flags at half-staff.

    • Senator John Fetterman is quoted criticizing his own party’s extremism and rhetoric, urging Democrats to lower the temperature.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There are two things that are happening right now in
this country because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. One
is truly a spiritual revival we are witnessing right now,
as attendance at church across the country in many places
was as high as it is on Easter Sunday and
Christmas Eve services. We are also witnessing a younger generation

(00:24):
who is now proudly standing up like never before for
what they believe in instead of being bullied into silence
by the radical left. We are also getting to know
the stories of Charlie Kirk and just how dedicated he
was to what he believed in. There's also a second

(00:46):
part of this story, and that is the accountability for
the radical left. We are witnessing now. Leftists who celebrated
Charlie Kirk's assassination are being held accountable, being fired at
a rapid rate, and conservatives are uniting to make sure
that these individuals, especially at high schools and colleges, are

(01:10):
no longer in a position to indoctrinate a generation to
believing that violence is the way to silence speech that
you disagree with. Before we get into all of that, though,
I want you to hear some truly inspiring words by
the pastor of Charlie Kirk and what he had to

(01:34):
say about Charlie, his friend and his passing. Listen carefully.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Charlie Kirk is irreplaceable. Charlie Kirk is a once in
a generation mind and soul and anointing and heart. Charlie
Kirk was a rare combination of evangelist, apologist and political strategist.
One of our most recent communications, he said, thank you.

(02:02):
I have a ton of questions. I didn't ask for it,
but I have become a high profile defender of the faith.
I need to be the best I can. I said,
I'd be honored to serve for free, invisibly as needed.
You have an anointing to steward and it's massive. Proud
of you and pray for you and your family daily.
Charlie Kirk and I had been communicating. I was on

(02:25):
vacation with my wife and he was asking one week
could get together for a half day. He had a
bunch of questions about the Christian faith that he wanted
to wipe bard out, and I told him it would
be a great honor of my life to try and
serve him He told me that he felt like God
gave him this platform an opportunity so that he could
become an evangelist and apologist to the next generation. He

(02:48):
wanted to make it his primary message and life work
to proclaim the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
which is evangelism, and then defend it by answering criticisms, questions,
and objections, which is called apologetics, which means to defend
the faith. Charlie Kirk stepped into a level of spiritual

(03:10):
warfare that I believe moved him to the top of
the enemy's hit list and to some degree contributed to
his assassination, his murder, and has martyrdom today. And I
do not use those words lightly. Those are entirely accurate
and fit the description of the demonic activity that we
saw today. Charlie wanted people to meet Jesus Christ, and

(03:32):
he wanted to do the best job that he could
presenting the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And as a result,
Charlie was going to campuses and he was proclaiming Jesus
and he was answering questions, and he was a generational
master in doing what the Bible says and that is

(03:53):
to give an answer to everyone for the hope that
you have with gentleness and respect. He was a joyful,
happy warrior. He had a great smile. He was kind
to his enemies. He tried to have a good time
even when they were trying to give him.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
A bad time.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
His impact on this generation cannot be overstated. I believe
it is absolutely non hyperbolic to say that he is
the greatest conservative voice of this generation alive on planet Earth.
And one of the last times I saw him was backstage.

(04:34):
It was actually some months ago, I believe, when JD
Vance was in town and Charlie invited me to come
meet JD in the greenroom and hang out with him.
And I walked in with a big smile.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
He gave me a big.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Hug and he said, he said, I need you to
be praying for me, Pastor. I said, absolutely, I pray
for Charlie every day my wife and I have, and
for his beautiful family. He said, he said, I think
they're going to try and kill me. And he said
if we lose, I think they're going to incarcerate me.
Here's a young man with a family who's willing to

(05:07):
sacrifice his own life and well being, and the joy
he had with a wife whom he very much loved
and children that he completely adored. For the sake of
selfless service and sacrifice out of love for others. Charlie
is was and will forever be one of the most

(05:29):
significant men who walked on planet Earth in his generation.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
You listen to Charlie's pastor there talking about how much
he wanted to prepare, how much he wanted to make
sure that he was prepared for the questions about the Gospel,
about his faith being an apologist. That is how much
he cared about spreading the Gospel to the world. There's

(05:56):
also incredible things that have come out of this, giving
an example of that that happened and was just sent
to me a moment ago. JD. Vance, the Vice President
of the United States of America, will have the quote
honor as he put out on social media of hosting
the Charlie Kirk Show. He said, please join me as
I paid tribute to my friend. Apparently he will be
doing this from the White House. There's also part of

(06:22):
what Charlie's legacy was, and it was an important one,
was making sure that the Left didn't get a hold
of our children indoctrinate them the way they've been doing
it in such a radical way, and we're now witnessing
leftists who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination are being fired at
a rapid pace. Those leftists who celebrate the assassination of

(06:46):
Charlie are now facing serious consequences, consequences of sunlight after
they were excited that Charlie was murdered. Others are being
identified and called out, then placed on leave or suspect.
According to a running thread that keeps count on social
media platform x As you know, we understand how extreme

(07:10):
the left has become, but what we are witnessing right
now is that there are many who are dedicating their
time to exposing far left radicals, and one of those groups,
Libs of TikTok, is doing a lot of the heavy
lifting when it comes to pointing out how much violence
and hate are still brewing on the left regarding Charlie.

(07:34):
A teacher, for example, at King Elementary School posts a
video online appearing to celebrate Charlie being assassinated. This person
teaches your children. Any comments and guess what happened when
that was posted about a teacher at King elementary school.
There has now been accountability. There was another post by

(07:56):
another teacher at another high school in Maine and what
happened there. She said, we're not offering sympathy moments after
Charlie Kirk was shot. This teacher has also been exposed.
Republican activist Scott Presler is also creating a database of
such behavior and encouraging his followers to send him any

(08:18):
examples that they see online. Another Pennsylvania teacher by the
name of Susan in another high school. One of Pressler's
posts made it clear this is a woman who said,
so yeah, I don't really care that someone shot him dead.
F him. This is another teacher teaching your children, and

(08:40):
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to be brought up. And you understand now how this
younger generation has become so violent because the radical left

(11:17):
that is controlling our schools and these teachers that I
was just mentioning are in doctrine in your kids to
believe that violence is okay if it's against someone you
don't like. How bad has it gotten? The radical Democratic
Party has done this to our youngest generation. Political violence
is never acceptable, is the poll question of Baby boomers.

(11:41):
Ninety three percent say political violence is never acceptable. The
number then goes down with Gen X to eighty six
percent who say political violence is never acceptable. The number
drops even lower with Millennials to seventy one percent. Just
seventy one percent of millennials say political violence is never
accept But here's the number you need to really understand

(12:04):
the left that's taken over our universities, in our schools,
public and private, have convinced the gen Zers the political
violence is acceptable. In fact, just fifty eight percent of
gen Zers say the political violence is never acceptable, meaning
forty two percent of gen Zer's believe the political violence

(12:29):
and what we've witnessed with Charlie Kirk is acceptable. I
want you to think about that. So, Yes, as Reverend
Franklin Graham put it, Charlie Kirk's voice is being magnified. Yes,
churches are full. Yes people are searching. Yes, people are

(12:49):
thinking and talking about what Charlie Kirk believed in. Yes,
more people now than probably ever before are watching and
listening to what Charlie Kirk had said in the past.
But the reality is also very clear. There is still
a lot of hate. There is still a lot of

(13:10):
people out there that are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
I want to play for you with the Speaker of
the House, Mike Johnson had to say, as he was
one of the first to speak at the prayer vigil
at the Kennedy Center that was put on with forty
eight hours notice, and I want you to listen carefully

(13:30):
to his message about who Charlie Kirk was and what
it means going forward.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
All right, thank you all so much. Good to see you,
and they hear that all the way in heaven. I'm
telling you, it's been a very, very difficult week in America.
We all know that it's been a mixture of unspeakable
sadness and grief and anger and even fear. It's as

(14:17):
if a dark shadow was cast over our country, and
certainly here even on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
The leaders of the nation have been shaken.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
As have university students and college students and young people
all across the country, as as if the ground was
shifted beneath us.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
We all felt it deep deep inside.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
And in spite of that, we remember that our dear
friend Charlie would never want us to be overcome by despair.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
He would want exactly the opposite.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know, Charlie Kirk recruited and trained and educated a
generation of happy warriors, and we do well to be
reminded that the best way to honor his memory and
to honor his unmatched legacy is to live as Charlie did.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
That's right. I just have two thoughts.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
At a very brief moment I'm given to speak to
you tonight, I just want to give you two thoughts
in that regard. If we can do two things that
Charlie did, we will honor that legacy. One is to
advance his principles, and the other is to adopt his approach.
Now regarding his principles, Charlie was a man of deep
faith and conviction. Everyone here can testify to that, and

(15:41):
all the speakers will tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I mean he meant it to his core.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
He was authentic, and that's what drew people to the
message so much. And he believed and the things that
are noble and praiseworthy and good that Scripture talks about.
He believed in family and freedom, faith and virtue and patriotism.
See Charlie unders that we live in the greatest nation
in the history of the world.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
It's not even close.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
So I don't care what anybody argues, and Charlie could
beat them all. We're the most We're the most free,
and most successful, most powerful, most benevolent nation that has
ever been on the earth, and Charlie understood why, and

(16:26):
he wanted others to understand it as well, because Charlie
knew that if you don't understand the source of your freedom,
it is easy for it to be taken away. Charlie
believed in the creed of our country, which we will
celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary next year.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Charlie loved to take university students and young people through
the second paragraph of the declaration. We hold these truths
to be self evident. By the way, students, what is
the self evident truth?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's something that's obvious. We hold these truths to be
self evident.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
That all men are created equal, not born equal, created equal.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
That's what Charlie knew.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
And Charlie knew that because of that, because what the
Founder said, what they articulated, that God created us.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
He's the one that gave us our an alienable rights.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Charlie Kirk stood for the principle and he shared it
everywhere he could. Our rights do not derive from the
state or a king. They come from the King of kings.
Charlie also taught so effectively. He did it as well

(17:44):
as anybody in his generation, or possibly for many generations,
that the other principles that come from that what the
founders do and when they put this country together, this
grand experiment in self governance, they understood that we are
made in the image of God.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
And because of that, that's right.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Because of that, Charlie knew and he believed it, and
you could see it and how he advanced this ministry
of his. He knew that because we're all made in
the image of God, every single person has an.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Estimable dignity and value.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
And your values is not related in any way to
the color of your skin or what zip code you
live in, where do you go to school.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's irrelevant.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Your values inherent because it is given to you by God.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
That's what Charlie Kirk believed. That's what Charlie Kirk lived.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
If we could advance those principles that Charlie advanced, we'll
be able to save this great Republican And that's what
he was all about.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
But we should also adopt his approach.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
See, Charlie loved a vigorous debate, but he loved people more.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Charlie.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's right, Charlie. Charlie was never motivated by hate. I mean,
he could cling the thock of anybody in a debate.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
We all know it. But you know what he did
after those debates.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
He was always the first person to reach out a
hand of friendship or to offer an arm around the
shoulder of someone who he felt was lost, because in
many places, in many cases, the people he was debating
were indeed lost, not just philosophically but spiritually. And Charlie
knew the truth, and he knew that eternity awaits us.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
All. We know exactly where Charlie is right now. That's right.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Charlie had such faith and such such belief, and he
wanted to share that truth with others. And what he
was trying to do is pull people back from the abyss,
not just to save a country, but to save souls.
That's what Charlie Kirk was about. And that will resonate.
It goes far beyond him. His legacy is immeasurable. I
used to be a lawyer. I defended free speech and

(19:52):
religious freedom and all that in the courts, and we
tried to We talked a lot about advancing and preserving
the free marketplace of ideas. I think Charlie Kirk offered
more productive content the free marketplace of ideas than anyone
in its generation and arguably in the last one hundred.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Years of US history.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I could go on and on, but I'm out of
time because you have a lot of great people to
hear from tonight. Everybody has a story about Charlie and
they're all worthy to be shared, and I wouldn't know.
We'll be doing that for many days to come. I
just leave you with the thought from Edmund Burke. It's
attributed to him, and Charlie knew this quote well.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
He was my friend. We talked about these things.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
He reminded young people, all that is necessary for the
triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Charlie
Kirk did so much in his short life that he
spurred that on in other people. He inspired it in
other people, and that message and that truth will go
more boldly now than it did while he was here.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
It will go forward with power and strength.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
I've been asked to offer a brief word of prayer,
so if you would do that with me, Heavenly Father,
we come to you tonight in sadness, but also with
grateful hearts, because we know that your truth endoors. We
know where our dear brother and friend, Charlie Is. We
thank you that he is receiving his reward and that
he's heard those words that we all aspire to hear.

(21:32):
Well done, good and faithful servant, Father, help us to
remember the principles of your word that Charlie worked every
day to advance. That we do not return evil for evil,
but we over to come evil with good. And we
pray that you bless our friend and brother's legacy, that
it goes on roars on throughout the nation. That you

(21:55):
pray and encourage and inspire Erica, the children, the Kirk family,
the Turning Point staff, and all the volunteers and supporters,
and every student around the nation who is who has
already connected to this organization, and the eighteen thousand plus.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Enquiries that they received this week for new chapters.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Heavenly Father, we pray that you bless that in such
a supernatural, exponential way that no one can explain it,
but that your spirit has been involved. We pray and
believe all this, and we commit our great nation to
you in Jesus' name.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
You here the speaker of the house there, Mike Johnson,
telling that incredible story of Charlie Kirk, his life and
his legacy. We are also hearing from the Pentagon there
will be as they are describing it a zero tolerance
policy for the cheering of Charlie Kirk's assassination. Pentagon officials

(22:57):
are now actively monitoring an alarm wave of public celebrations
over the assassination of Charlie Kirk and weighing action against
any military members or Department personnel who are involved. The
Defense Secretary p Deadseth, along with multiple other military and
department leaders, said the department is quote tracking celebrations of

(23:17):
Kirk's death among personnel and promised the issue will be
addressed immediately. In the wake of the assassination, there is
a lot of left leaning users on X, Blue Sky,
and TikTok that are openly cheering the conservative leader's murder.
Several accounts llegey tied to military personnel popping up quote

(23:41):
it's unacceptable for military personnel and Department of War civilians
the celebrator mock the assassination of a fellow American. That's
of the Pentagon's chief spokesman, Sean Parnell, a friend of mine,
by the way, posts on X saying the Department of
War has zero tolerance for it. It is unacceptable for
military personnel, Department of War civilians to celebrate or mock

(24:02):
the assassination of a fellow American period. The Department of
the Air Force is also aware of inappropriate comments concerning
recent political violence. This behavior is unacceptable and contrary to
our core values. Airmen and guardsmen are expected up hold
the highest standard of professionalism and conduct at all times.

(24:25):
This is just one example of how left and how that,
I should say, the radical left has decided to indoctrinate
a younger generation to believe that if you're angry, you
can kill, If you're angry, you can have riots, if
you're angry, you can have violence. And what we've witnessed
since the assassination of Charlie Kirk is this, When the

(24:48):
right's angry, there are prayer visuals. When the left is angry,
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two Patriot. You also had the President of the United
States of America doing something that was incredible, ordering on
Wednesday that all American flags be lowered to have staff
until Sunday evening at six o'clock for one reason, to
honor Charlie Kirk. I look at what is happening also online,

(27:26):
and what we are witnessing right now is people flocking
to videos of Charlie Kirk's most important moments, things that
he said in the past, things that he believed in,
watching church services that he was involved in, commentary that
he was involved in. And there's even some Democrats that
are breaking with their party. John Fetterman being mocked now

(27:50):
begging Democrats to stop calling Trump names the Democratic Party.
He's now a black sheep, as he's been described by
The Daily Beast says of President Trump, it is unprecedented
the number of attacks on his administration. John Fetterman saying,
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(28:13):
we should not have and what are Democrats doing right now?
They're attacking John Fetterman. Take a listen to part of
what he had to say about his own party.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
I'm never going to change my party, but clearly we've
lost the argument. And now right now, I think it's
entirely appropriate to really be honest and just figure out
why exactly have we effectively lost two out of less
three cycles and a lot of the things. We've really
kind of really lost our connection with American voters in ways,

(28:49):
and I think we can't just be well, Trump is
always wrong, or or that we're going to set the
country on fire or whatever. That's just not true either.
Of course. You know, when I represent a state like Pennsylvania,
that keeps you honest and you always can't forget that
a lot of Americans happen to disagree with you. That
does not mean that they are fascists or now they

(29:12):
want to shred the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
But when you hear some Democrats saying Trump is acting
like an autocrat.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yeah, no, that's the thing. I if you actually compare
him to an actual autocrat, that is not just that.
Now last night, for example, people were complain, you know,
they're protesting about oh, that's the Hitler Hitler thing. You
just don't ever ever compare anyone to Hitler and those
kinds of extreme things. Now, look what happened to Charlie Kirk.

(29:40):
I mean, the man was shot. Now we have to
turn the temperature down. It's like, we can't compare people
to these kinds of figures in history. And this is
not an autocrat. This is a product of a democratic election.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
So you don't think that Trump is at all shattering
any of the norms of democracy in any.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
I'm saying he's different, But that's what America voted for Again,
I don't agree with many of these things, but that
does not make him an autocra atic.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But one of the things I hear from Democrats a
lot saying a.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Reason why voters may not like Democrats because they don't
fight hard enough.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Democrats would be fighting harder.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
What do you say to folks, exactly what exactly is fighting?
What is fighting? You know, delay more votes or just
vote every no on everything, or saying well, if they're
doing X, well, then that mean it's wrong that kind
of thing. It's like, what exactly is is fighting?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
I'll give you an example.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
It could be shutting the government down.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like some Democrats say, if this happens, it will be
Trump's fault.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
That's that's not fighting. That's mutilating our nation. If you
vote to shut our government down, you are going to
harm millions of Americans. And why would you do this?
Where's our leverage? It was wrong. It was wrong for
the Republicans to do that. Absolutely, that's true. It is
wrong for the Republicans to do that. It would just

(30:57):
be wrong for us for those things bigger pick.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Sure as a party shifted or have you shifted ideological.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Lan My party is acting in a way. They have forgotten.
They have forgotten one of the reasons why we lost
in twenty twenty four. Some of the most extreme things
were weaponized against that and now some people think, now
we have to double down on those things, or we
must become more progressive or more extreme. That's absolutely just
not that's absolutely not true. The seven or eight states

(31:26):
that are going to determine who's going to be our
next the next president, you know, we have to win
in those states, and I understand what that takes. And
a lot of these ideas that are now putting back
and being reinduced are not going to carry you know, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
You listen to Fetterman and it seems like he's saying
the Democratic Party has left him because of the radicals
which are controlling it. I couldn't agree with him more.
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