🔍 1. Hillary Clinton and the Russia Hoax Allegations
- The hosts claim that newly declassified documents show Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan to link Donald Trump to Russian election interference in 2016.
- The plan was allegedly intended to distract from her own email scandal.
- The documents reportedly include emails involving George Soros’s Open Society Foundation and Clinton’s foreign policy advisor, Julianne Smith.
- The podcast alleges that the FBI and media were complicit in spreading the narrative, which they describe as a deliberate disinformation campaign.
🇮🇱 2. Democrats and Israel
- Cruz criticizes Senate Democrats for increasingly voting against military aid to Israel.
- He claims that more than half of Senate Democrats supported a resolution to block weapons sales to Israel, which he interprets as a shift toward pro-Hamas sentiment.
- The discussion includes criticism of international allies (UK, France, Canada) for recognizing a Palestinian state, which Cruz argues rewards terrorism.
📰 3. Media Bias and the Gaza Photo Controversy
- The New York Times is accused of spreading Hamas propaganda by publishing a misleading photo of a malnourished child in Gaza.
- The podcast claims the child’s condition was due to pre-existing health issues, not Israeli actions, and criticizes the Times for issuing a low-profile correction.
🇨🇳 4. Harvard and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)
- The hosts discuss a congressional investigation into Harvard University’s alleged ties with the CCP.
- Whistleblowers reportedly revealed that Harvard has formal partnerships with CCP training institutions.
- The podcast argues that China uses these relationships to influence U.S. academia and train future American leaders with pro-CCP ideology.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is a verdict with Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you,
and it's really nice to have you with us wherever
you are around the country. We've got a lot to
unpack on this show, Senator, including a new smoking gun.
The Russian hoax exposed even more, and we're being told
now that Hillary Clinton apparently greenlit the entire idea to
(00:24):
hide her email scandal, and declassified documents are now showing
exactly that well.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Newly de classified documents show, as you noted, that Hillary
Clinton personally approved the Russia hoax and she did it
to distract from her own email scandal. She did it
with the complicity of the corporate media, and she did
it with the complicity of the FBI. These emails are
bombshell emails that show that George Soros and his foundation
(00:53):
was intimately involved in the entire operation and that this
was a lie from day one, and the political operators,
including Hillary Rodham Clinton, knew fully well that it was
a lie. On top of that, we had a vote
this week on Israel, and I will tell you every
day every week, the Democrats abandoning of the state of
(01:15):
Israel gets worse and worse and worse. This week, more
than half of the Senate Democrats voted to cut off
military funding for Israel. The degree to which today's Democrats
have been captured by the pro Hamas radical left wing
of their party continues to get worse, and it is
dismaying and sadly they were echoed by the governments of
(01:35):
Great Britain and France and Canada all this week. The
left has decided Hamas, they stand for Hamas, and they're
no longer willing to stand with Israel. And finally, a
new story about Harvard's tie ties to the Chinese Communist Party,
their explicit partnership with a major organ of the Chinese
Communist Party to train the leaders of China. The leaders
(01:59):
that are involved in horrific human rights abuses, the leaders
that are involved in the tyranny of the Chinese government
are more and more Harvard trained. We're gonna lay out
the evidence for that.
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you when you found out the Russian hoax is now
(04:05):
being exposed? And what was your initial reaction to Hillary
Clinton greenline this? It's like for me, I was like, Yep,
that makes sense, Yep, that adds up, Yep, that matches.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Look, the evidence has been coming over the last several weeks,
so Telsea Gabbard released significant evidence that the intelligence community
had been telling Barack Obama and the Obama administration that
Russia was not trying to hack the election. They'd been
doing that for months. We covered that on a previous pod.
And then this week the portions of the classified annex
(04:35):
of John Durham's Special Council investigation were released, and they
were released by my colleague Chuck Grassley, who was the
chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I got to say,
it is stunning what is in these new lead to
classified documents. So they reveal quote confidential conversations between members
(04:57):
of the Democratic National Committee and Georgie Soros's Open Society
Foundation that occurred before the twenty sixteen election, and in particular,
accorded to the declassified files, Hillary Clinton personally approved a
plan that had been proposed by her foreign policy advisor,
woman named Julianne Smith, to quote smear Donald Trump by
(05:21):
magnifying the scandal tied to the intrusion by the Russian
Special Services in the pre election process to benefit the
Republican candidate. And by the way, Julianne Smith was later
appointed to serve as ambassador to NATO under President Joe Biden.
So it turned out this was this was a profitable
role for her to be involved in this massive hoax.
(05:44):
There's an email in particular that is that is really remarkable.
It was written by Open Society Foundation's senior vice president,
a fellow named Leonard Bernardo, and it was dated July
twenty seventh, twenty sixteen. And here's what it says. Quote
hr R CHRC stands for Hillary Rodin. Clinton approved Julia's
(06:04):
idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering US elections. This
is in July of twenty sixteen. That should distract people
from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes
to the Olympic level. And his email continues quote the
point is making the Russian play a US domestic issue
(06:29):
in absence of direct evidence. CrowdStrike and Threat Connect will
supply the media, and GRU which is the foreign intelligence
arm of Russia, will hopefully carry on to give more facts.
(06:49):
And Oka, I gotta say, this is Hillary explicitly signing
on and counting on, counting on the assistance. And then
he goes on to say he says that the Clinton
campaign's plan included quote raising the theme of Putin's support
(07:12):
for Trump and pushing public opinion to quote equote the
Russian leader's influence campaign with actual election infrastructure hacking, and
it involved distributing quote the necessary information through the FBI
affiliated technical structures, in particular the crowd strike and threat
(07:33):
Connect companies, from where the information would then be disseminated
through leading leading US opinion of publications. And that's another
email from Bernardo. And then the email predicts and this
is stunning that the FBI would quote put more oil
(07:54):
into the fire of the Russia collusion narrative. This was
an explicit plan by the Hillary Clinton campaign and by
Hillary Clinton herself to use the FBI to spread a
lie about Donald Trump. And it was in order to
try to win the election. And thank god, the American
people were not deceived and they elected Donald Trump over
(08:17):
Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
When it went to the FBI, how they categorized at
the time the dossier and everything else. It was paid
for by Hillary Clinton, partially her campaign and then the
Democratic National Committee. They created it out of thin air,
and then they went to the FBI. And even the
FBI had classified, if I remember correctly, as quote user
(08:38):
generated and even offered. I think it was like a
million dollars to steal if he could verify any of
this dossier, which he never got paid on because he
couldn't do it well.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The Steele dossier was designed to be a lie, and
it was straight out opposition research. It was paid for
by the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was paid for by
the DNC. They paid over a million dollars and and
and they hid the fees, uh that they they hid
them as quote legal fees to their law firms, Perkins cooy.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They had five point six million in legal fees that
were paid in one bill and they they hid that
amount in there. And and once they created the Steele
dossier that just made blatant lies about Donald Trump, Uh,
they then gave it to the FBI, and and and
Obama DOJ and FBI officials were active in covering up
(09:30):
that this came from the Hillary Clinton campaign. And understand
this is during the presidential campaign, this is while the
campaign is in full speed. This this false oppo research document.
It was just concocted. It was just created out of
whole cloth. It became the basis for for then an
FBI investigation, and and that FBI investigation was then uh
(09:53):
eagerly leaked uh to the press, and the press breathlessly
reported on it. And the fact that the FBI would
investigating it took it as as confirmation that that that
Vladimir Putin was behind the Trump campaign and the entire
the entire operation was a deliberate and false, uh misleading campaign.
(10:18):
They that they they knew that it was. And and
you know, here's one thing John Solomon uh says about
the Durham Annix that just got released. Quote, this is
the smoking gun evidence inside the Durham Annics. If it
is authenticated by further investigation, it means liberal mega doner
George Soros's team knew the whole Clinton plan for Russia
(10:41):
Gate hoax four days before FBI opened up the probe,
and so did Obama, Brennan and Comy. This was a
deliberate lie, and everyone involved in it knew they were lying,
and they were lying, number one, because they wanted to
(11:01):
effectively steal the election, mislead the American people. And by
the way, the Washington Posts of the New York Times
both won Pulitzer Prizes for reporting on these lies, for
repeating these lies, for being an avenue of propaganda and disinformation. So,
of course the Washington Post and New York Times are
(11:23):
very reluctant to cover what's being released now because it
shows that they operated essentially as misinformation arms of the
Hillary Clinton campaign. They did it at first hoping to
win the election through deception, but then after the election
was over, after Donald Trump was elected to his first term,
they did it within the government to try to undermine
the newly elected president of the United States. And understand
(11:46):
to do this it takes a real contempt not just
for the incoming president, it takes a contempt for the voters.
It takes a contempt for the democratic process. For someone
that's in a senior government position, whether at the FBI
or at the CIA or the Department of Justice, to say,
I don't care that the American people elected this president,
I don't like him, I disagree with him, and so
(12:09):
I'm going to abuse my government position in order to
try to destroy the presidency from within. And this was
not accidental, This was not based on misunderstandings. This was
a deliberate lie, and they knew they were lying.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You look at this and you say, okay, this is
a massive scheme. Now the question is I go back
to it. I feel like I ask you this a
lot when we have these issues come out. Will there
be any accountability for this? We know that there's some
that were pardoned by Biden, for example, that there's the
question of was that the auto pen That doesn't come
(12:48):
into play here. With Hillary Clinton, there have been people saying, Wow,
you're not going to be able to get anything here
because it is what it is. Politics is dirty? Get
over it. Is this in the category of politics is dirty?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Get over it? Or is there more there?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So look, I hope there is accountability. Pambondi, the Attorney General,
has created a strike force that is investigating these lies,
investigating this cover up. The challenge is going to be
the Statute of Limitations, and look at statutal limitations. It's
it's ordinarily for something like this five years. The Statute
Limitations is designed to stop prosecutors from bringing cases on
(13:23):
things that are many, many years decades old. And there
are a lot of reasons for that. But for most
of this conduct it has passed the Statute of limitation.
There's some exceptions. So for example, Andrew McCabe, the Deputy
director of the FBI, lied to Congress and he did
so within the last five years. And so McCabe McCabe
(13:43):
of all of the players. Probably faces the greatest legal
jeopardy because he's got If it can be demonstrated that
he deliberately lied to Congress under oath, that that is
a felony that carries jail time with him with respect
to other conduct, other lies done under oath. If it
happened before the Statute of Limitations. The only way to
(14:04):
bring a prosecution is for the prosecutors to argue that
the information was concealed and that told the Statute of limitations.
That's a plausible argument, but it's difficult to prove it's not.
Courts don't agree with that often, and so that makes
it more challenging to bring those cases.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
So is this more of an issue now? Of all? Right?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The American people know they relied to they know that
there's corruptions at the highest level in our government. They
know that they did this while they were in power,
and they know they did to also cover up. And
Hillary Clinton has still not been held accountable. I mean,
some could argue maybe on election day when she's running
against Trump, but with the email scandal and the declassified documents,
(14:44):
you look at what she did compared to what they
rated Marlago over it is disgusting the abuse of power
by the Democratic Party over the last two administrations when
they've been in power.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
It is And you look at a press release the
Hillary Clinton campaign put out and and it reads as follows,
quote Hillary for America a statement on US government formally
naming Russia responsible for election related hacks. John Podesta, chair
of Hillary for America, released the following statement Friday, quote,
the world now knows beyond a shadow of a doubt
(15:17):
that the hack of the Democratic National Committee was carried
out by the Russian government in a clear attempt to
interfere with the integrity of our elections. The only remaining
question is why Donald Trump continues to make apologies for
the Russians. Trump's initial reaction to the hack in July
was to invite further intrusions by the Russians, even after
he was reportedly briefs on the very findings that were
just publicly announced by the US government officials. He stood
(15:39):
on a debate stage one week ago and played dumb
about Russia's role in this hack. He has repeatedly praised
Vladimir Putin, outlined a list of pro Putin policies, and
has done hundreds of millions of dollars of business with
Russian interests. Every word of what that press release said
is false. They knew it was false, and they were
willing to campaign based on Lawe and Hillary Clinton, according
(16:01):
to this emails, personally approved those lies.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Senator, I want to get to this other big issue,
and that is Democrats are not just abandoning Israel. They
are straight up anti Israel, and they're showing it now
as they're voting. A record number of Senate Democrats are
going to block weapons sales to Israel. They're doing it
numbers we've never seen before. And this on top of
(16:29):
the fact that The New York Times has had to
basically correct the claim about a viral photo of a
starving gods a boy they blamed on Israel and actually
wasn't true at all, and they didn't correct it like
in the paper. They did it on x on their
PR account that like no one follows this is now
(16:49):
how bad it's gotten not only in the media but
also in DC.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Well, you know, when I arrived in the Senate thirteen
years ago, there was meaningful bipartisan support for is It
was one of the issues that you could see Republicans
and Democrats come together. Twenty thirteen. When I got here
was the beginning of the second term of Barack Obama,
and Barack Obama began to turn the Democrat Party against Israel.
(17:15):
That turn accelerated dramatically during the Biden administration, and Joe
Biden ended up being the most anti Israel president and
the most anti Israel administration we've ever seen. Joe Biden,
in the midst of a war that Israel was in,
cut off weapons, froze weapons to Israel, and did so
specifically to prevent Israel from killing terrorists Hamas, terrorists who
(17:37):
had attacked Israel viciously in one of the most horrific
terrorist attack in world history October seventh, where Hamas murdered
over twelve hundred civilians, targeted civilians directly, raped and murdered
women and little girls. And the Democrats, looking at the
aftermath of this, more and more of them decided they
(17:59):
stand with Hamas, and sadly, there is a real and
growing pro Hamas contingent of the Democrat Party today. This week,
Bernie Sanders brought a resolution trying to block weapons sales
to Israel. Now Bernie Sanders has been rabidly anti Israel
for a long time, most left wing socialists and Marxist are,
(18:21):
but Bernie Sanders resolutions trying to cut off Israel usually failed,
and usually failed with a big, big vote. Well, this
week the Senate rejected it again, and we rejected it
by a vote of seventy to twenty seven. But there
were twenty seven votes in favor of Bernie Sanders's resolution.
There are only forty seven Democrats in the Senate. That
(18:41):
means more than half of the Senate Democrats voted to
cut off funding for Israel. That is a dramatic shift.
And by the way, if you compare it to in
April we had a similar vote and only fifteen Democrats
voted for it. In November of twenty twenty four, eighteen
Democrats voted for for it. So so moving up to
(19:02):
twenty seven is a major shift and and and it
is a disturbing pattern where when faced with a choice,
do we support Hamas or do we support Israel? More
and more Democrats they're afraid of the aocs, They're afraid
of the ilhan Omars, they're afraid of the Rashida Talibs.
(19:22):
In the House, the the pro Hamas squad, and they're
also afraid of the radical protesters on college campuses. Understand,
those protesters are funded by George Soros. They're funded by
the same people who fund the Democrat Party. And more
and more elected Democrats have decided that that that they
will not anger the pro Hamas radicals and and and
(19:43):
so I've got to say it is sad to see. Uh,
but let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
By the way you mentioned yeah, well, and let me
ask you this.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So, look, we know that there's more people on the
House side, so you'll get some you know, fringe groups
in the House side on the Democratic Party already, even
like more hardcore conservacicy in the past with Conservative caucuses,
you can see numbers move there. The Senate's kind of
been like the place of elder statesmen, and like there's
(20:13):
certain issues that you kind of just see that like, hey,
we're going to be the adults in the room. I
think that's the scariest part of these votes I'm witnessing
now is this has moved from the House and the
radicals there that you kind of expected through that the
AOC and her group, right, you expect it, But now
it's moved into the Senate Chamber. And that is really,
(20:37):
I think telling about the anti semitism of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
More than half of the Senate Democrats voted to cut
off military funding for Israel. That's a milestone that's never
happened before. And by the way, it happened at the
exact same time that we saw three governments worldwide, governments
of US allies but that are led by leftists. The
government of the United Kingdom, the government of France, and
(21:02):
the government of Canada all came out in favor of
recognizing an independent Palestinian state. And I want you to
think about the message that the UK and France and
Canada are saying. They're saying to Hamas your terrorism worked.
They're saying to Hamas, we're glad you murdered twelve hundred
innocent civilians. We're glad you raped women and little girls.
(21:22):
By the way, they're also saying to Hamas, we're glad
you continue to keep hostages to this day. You do
not release the hostages. They're saying to Hamas, we're glad
you're responsible for starving Palestinians and Gaza. Understand that the
human suffering in Gaza is the direct result of Hamas.
Hamas could end this right now. And Donald Trump, by contrast,
(21:43):
put out a tweet this week and he said Hamas
could end the suffering right now by stopping fighting and
releasing the hostages. They don't want to, and in fact,
Hamas is actively negotiating. You know what, they're negotiating for
cut off food aid for Palestinians and Gaza. We Hamas
want to control all the food because it's one of
(22:05):
the ways we keep in power is by starving anyone
who opposes us. That is who the United Kingdom and
France and the Canadian government is supporting. And that is
also sadly who now a majority of Senate Democrats are supporting.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You also look at the media, and there's a second
part of this conversation. The New York Times has had
to roll back acclaim they put it out there of
a viral photo of a starving Gaza boy. It was propaganda.
It was clearly propaganda from the terrorists and those that
want you to somehow believe that Israel's starving kids. It
(22:46):
did not happen that way at all. The New York
Times was forced to correct it, and I think they
did it in such just a disgusting way because they
issued their statement sharing how they quote originally didn't include
this boy's pre existing health condition, But they didn't really
do it in the newspaper like on the front page,
(23:07):
where the same way they did the picture, the damage
already been done. They corrected the story by going to
the New York Times p R Twitter, not even the
New York Times Twitter account, the New York Times pr
account that virtually no one's gonna see.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, look, this was not a picture that that they
just had as a kind of side note in a
small story. This is a picture the New York Times
put on the front page. It occupies more than half
of the front page, above the fold. It is a
massive picture, and it's a horrible picture. It's a picture
of a little boy. He appears to be starving. His
(23:46):
spine is sticking out. I mean, it's a very disturbing.
It's an eighteen month old child, which which they they
said he was starving, he faced life threatening malnutrition, and
they blame that on Israel and they used it to
push Hamas's propaganda. After they did that, the New York
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Times was forced to issue a correction and they did
the correction, as you noted on Twitter where no one
would see it, And their correction says that what they
didn't tell people Here's what their statement was.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Children in Gaza are malnourished and starving, as New York
reporters and others have documented. We recently ran a story
about Gaza's most vulnerable civilians, including Mohammad Zakira al Mataqua,
who is about eighteen months old and suffers from severe malnutrition.
We have since learned new information, including from the hospital
that has treated him and his medical records, and have
(24:38):
updated our story to add context about his pre existing
health problems. This additional detail gives readers greater understanding of
his situation. Our reporters and photographers continue to report from
Gaza bravely, sensitively, and at personal risk, so that our
readers can see firsthand the consequences of the war. That's
(24:58):
their fairly ridiculous retract where they admit they're lying to you.
Now here's what they didn't tell us That Muhamma's mother
indicated that her son suffers from quote a muscle disorder
through which he received specialized nutrition and physical therapy. And
another journalist reported the young boy has quote cerebral palsy,
(25:21):
hypoexemia and was born with a serious genetic order. So
they showed a child who's very sick, but he's not
very sick from starvation, he's very sick from other medical conditions.
And the New York Times happily plays the role of
Hamas's propagandists, and sadly Senate Democrats are cheering on that
(25:43):
false propaganda. Interestingly enough, the pattern of this is exactly
the same as the pattern of Hillary Clinton signing off
on the false Russia story. It is take a lie,
count on the corporate media to spread that lie, count
on Democrat politicians to spread that not lie, and count
on friendly governments to spread that lie as well. And
(26:04):
and everyone involves knows they are lying, but their political
agenda in this instance they hate Israel, they want to
undermine Israel, and they want to elevate Hamas, and sadly
that more and more Senate Democrats are falling into that camp.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Senata, I want to move to this new report that's
come out, and it is something that we have been
really like raising the flag on, saying pay attention to this,
be careful where you send your kids to college, be
careful that they're going to be indoctrinated to hate America. Uh,
and be careful where you send your kids, because there's
(26:39):
a lot of money that's coming in from countries that
are trying to undermine America and hate America. We're now
seeing more of this at Harvard, with Harvard's ties now
directly to the Chinese Communist Party elites. That has been
revealed on a level we haven't seen before, and it's
(27:00):
been more shocking of where Harvard's getting their cash. And look,
China is not doing this because they like Harvard. They're
clearly doing it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
For influence, unquestionably, and you know, you know, some have
criticized the Trump administration going after Harvard University. Harvard is
the most influential university on the face of the planet,
and it also many universities in America have been in
bed with the Chinese Communist Party. The Chinese government spends
(27:30):
millions of dollars trying to get influence and trying to
brainwash our students, trying to control our universities, and far
too many universities have been really eager to participate in that.
And Harvard has been right at the front of the
list well this week that the House of Representatives has
an investigation and they sent a letter to the President
of Harvard. This is a letter from John Mullinar, who
(27:50):
is the chairman of the Select Committee on the CCP
in the House. It's from Tim Wahlberg, who's the chairman
of the House Committee on Education and Workforce. And it's
from Alie Stephonic, the chairwoman of House Republican Leadership. And
here's what the letter says. It's addressed to the President
of Harvard University, Alan Garber, and it says, Dear President Garber.
The Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party and the
(28:12):
Committee on Education and Workforce have identified new evidence related
to Harvard University's connections to the Chinese Communist Party and
request additional information. During our investigation, multiple whistleblowers told us
that Harvard has maintained close formal relationships directly with Chinese
Communist Party entities. Specifically, whistleblower information revealed ties between Harvard
(28:37):
and the Central Organization Department of the Central Committee of
the CCP, as well as certain Chinese government entities. The
CCP Organization Department is one of the most powerful bodies
within the Communist Party. It is responsible for the regimated,
regimented training program centered on Shijingping thought provided to the
(28:57):
party elites, and controls the p placemen of CCP members
in key leadership positions. The whistleblowers also revealed that Harvard
cultivates ties with elite CCP members. For example, whistleblowers reveal
that the Harvard Kennedy School hosts a formal partnership with
the Chinese Executive Leadership Academy Poodong, which is controlled by
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the CCP Organization Department. Under that partnership, the rising CCP elite,
who are being prepared for senior Communist Party leadership positions,
participate in training at Harvard in the United States. Additional
publicly available information indicates that some of these relationships have
been in place for at least a decade. In twenty sixteen,
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a high ranking member of the Chinese Academy of Social
Sciences stated that Chinese Quote Party and government cadres participate
in education and training run by the CCP Organization Department.
The Chinese government sends some cadres aba abroad to the
John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. This
(30:05):
is shocking, and it certainly appears from this investigation. And
they request all documents related to any engagement between Harvard
and the CCP and the government of China, and a
list of all money that has come from China and
the Chinese government. And my prediction is Harvard is going
to fight tooth and nail not to turn this over
(30:26):
because they don't want people to know just how eager
they have been to be in bed with the communists
running the Chinese government.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Can we also just be very queer, like China doesn't
do this because they like higher education or they're just
trying to get let's say they're students in That would
be like the most g rated version of the story
that you could tell. They're doing this to buy genuine
influence at the highest levels in academia and America. And
also this could have major consequences for the US when
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it comes to national security or spies and countless other
infiltration activities that they're part of all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Look, that's exactly right. You look at Harvard trains many
of our nation's elite. For example, I just typed in
a quick list on on on Ai how many senators
went to Harvard, and Ai promptly gave me an answer.
There are currently twelve senators who are Harvard alumni, and
I will admit sadly that it came back and says
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the list includes individuals like Ted Cruz, Tim Kane, Jack Reed,
Chuck Schumer, and Mitt Romney. So so I'm a little
embarrassed to be the first name on that list. But
that is part of the reason that that that that
Harvard puts that Harvard, that China puts that money into Harvard,
into Columbia, into elite universities across this country. Is they
(31:51):
want to train America's leaders. They want to train members
of Congress, they want to train members of the executive branch.
They want to train federal judges. They want to train
the foreign pologies apparatus uh and and and they are
trying to train them uh and and they're trying to
propaganda as they use this for brainwashing, they use this
for espionage. And and far too many of our universities
(32:12):
have been so eager to take the money. Uh that
that that they have welcomed Chinese communists with open arms.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
When you look at where they are right now and
you look at Harvard, is this just about the money,
do you think or is this also about the fact
that Harvard has no problem agreeing on a lot of
issues with China.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, it's both and and listen, the Harvard faculty is
is hard left. One one point I've I've said many
times is that when I was a student at Harvard
Law School, there were more professors who were Communists than
there were who were Republicans. And and that's not hyperbole
that there were at least a dozen professors who openly
said they were Marxists, that they were followers of the
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teachers teachings of Karl Marx, and and followers of of
you know, Karl Marx is the father of Communism. When
I was a student there there was only one professor
who openly identified as Republican. That was Charles Freed. And
by the way, Charles Freed, the loan Republican on the
faculty voted for Barack Obama, so so their loan Republican
voted for Obama as well. That that was the range
(33:19):
of thought thirty years ago, and it is much much
worse now, as you know. My most recent book is
entitled Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism, in America, And
the opening chapter talks about cultural Marxism, how it it.
It grew at Harvard University, it spread to universities throughout
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this country. It spread to K through twelve, education, to journalism,
to big business, to big tech, to entertainment, uh and
and and sadly, you know, I called the universities the
Wuhan lab of the Woke virus because they're where it
was created, They're where it mutated, and they're where it spread.
And and and Harvard was ground zero for that spread.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Final question on this, will Congress be able to really
do anything on this issue to stop this type of
money coming into these universities.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Look, I hope.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
One of the very first pieces of legislation that I
passed thirteen years ago was legislation that banned Defense Department
money from going to universities that have Confucius institutes. Confucius
institutes were paid for by the Chinese Communist government. They
were at universities all over the country. I got that through,
I got that passed and signed into law. I actually
(34:36):
got bipartisan support for it, and as a result, dozens
of Confucius institutes shut down all over the country. So
we can make a real impact. I've got more legislation
to require transparency of foreign money going to universities. We
ought to know about it. And look, the Trump administration
is trying hard to expose this and to stop it,
(34:58):
and I salute the president for doing Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is a verdict with Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you,
and it's really nice to have you with us wherever
you are around the country. We've got a lot to
unpack on this show, Senator, including a new smoking gun.
The Russian hoax exposed even more, and we're being told
now that Hillary Clinton apparently greenlit the entire idea to
(00:24):
hide her email scandal, and declassified documents are now showing
exactly that well.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Newly de classified documents show, as you noted, that Hillary
Clinton personally approved the Russia hoax and she did it
to distract from her own email scandal. She did it
with the complicity of the corporate media, and she did
it with the complicity of the FBI. These emails are
bombshell emails that show that George Soros and his foundation
(00:53):
was intimately involved in the entire operation and that this
was a lie from day one, and the political operators,
including Hillary Rodham Clinton, knew fully well that it was
a lie. On top of that, we had a vote
this week on Israel, and I will tell you every
day every week, the Democrats abandoning of the state of
(01:15):
Israel gets worse and worse and worse. This week, more
than half of the Senate Democrats voted to cut off
military funding for Israel. The degree to which today's Democrats
have been captured by the pro Hamas radical left wing
of their party continues to get worse, and it is
dismaying and sadly they were echoed by the governments of
(01:35):
Great Britain and France and Canada all this week. The
left has decided Hamas, they stand for Hamas, and they're
no longer willing to stand with Israel. And finally, a
new story about Harvard's tie ties to the Chinese Communist Party,
their explicit partnership with a major organ of the Chinese
Communist Party to train the leaders of China. The leaders
(01:59):
that are involved in horrific human rights abuses, the leaders
that are involved in the tyranny of the Chinese government
are more and more Harvard trained. We're gonna lay out
the evidence for that.
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you when you found out the Russian hoax is now
(04:05):
being exposed? And what was your initial reaction to Hillary
Clinton greenline this? It's like for me, I was like, Yep,
that makes sense, Yep, that adds up, Yep, that matches.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Look, the evidence has been coming over the last several weeks,
so Telsea Gabbard released significant evidence that the intelligence community
had been telling Barack Obama and the Obama administration that
Russia was not trying to hack the election. They'd been
doing that for months. We covered that on a previous pod.
And then this week the portions of the classified annex
(04:35):
of John Durham's Special Council investigation were released, and they
were released by my colleague Chuck Grassley, who was the
chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I got to say,
it is stunning what is in these new lead to
classified documents. So they reveal quote confidential conversations between members
(04:57):
of the Democratic National Committee and Georgie Soros's Open Society
Foundation that occurred before the twenty sixteen election, and in particular,
accorded to the declassified files, Hillary Clinton personally approved a
plan that had been proposed by her foreign policy advisor,
woman named Julianne Smith, to quote smear Donald Trump by
(05:21):
magnifying the scandal tied to the intrusion by the Russian
Special Services in the pre election process to benefit the
Republican candidate. And by the way, Julianne Smith was later
appointed to serve as ambassador to NATO under President Joe Biden.
So it turned out this was this was a profitable
role for her to be involved in this massive hoax.
(05:44):
There's an email in particular that is that is really remarkable.
It was written by Open Society Foundation's senior vice president,
a fellow named Leonard Bernardo, and it was dated July
twenty seventh, twenty sixteen. And here's what it says. Quote
hr R CHRC stands for Hillary Rodin. Clinton approved Julia's
(06:04):
idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering US elections. This
is in July of twenty sixteen. That should distract people
from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes
to the Olympic level. And his email continues quote the
point is making the Russian play a US domestic issue
(06:29):
in absence of direct evidence. CrowdStrike and Threat Connect will
supply the media, and GRU which is the foreign intelligence
arm of Russia, will hopefully carry on to give more facts.
(06:49):
And Oka, I gotta say, this is Hillary explicitly signing
on and counting on, counting on the assistance. And then
he goes on to say he says that the Clinton
campaign's plan included quote raising the theme of Putin's support
(07:12):
for Trump and pushing public opinion to quote equote the
Russian leader's influence campaign with actual election infrastructure hacking, and
it involved distributing quote the necessary information through the FBI
affiliated technical structures, in particular the crowd strike and threat
(07:33):
Connect companies, from where the information would then be disseminated
through leading leading US opinion of publications. And that's another
email from Bernardo. And then the email predicts and this
is stunning that the FBI would quote put more oil
(07:54):
into the fire of the Russia collusion narrative. This was
an explicit plan by the Hillary Clinton campaign and by
Hillary Clinton herself to use the FBI to spread a
lie about Donald Trump. And it was in order to
try to win the election. And thank god, the American
people were not deceived and they elected Donald Trump over
(08:17):
Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
When it went to the FBI, how they categorized at
the time the dossier and everything else. It was paid
for by Hillary Clinton, partially her campaign and then the
Democratic National Committee. They created it out of thin air,
and then they went to the FBI. And even the
FBI had classified, if I remember correctly, as quote user
(08:38):
generated and even offered. I think it was like a
million dollars to steal if he could verify any of
this dossier, which he never got paid on because he
couldn't do it well.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The Steele dossier was designed to be a lie, and
it was straight out opposition research. It was paid for
by the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was paid for by
the DNC. They paid over a million dollars and and
and they hid the fees, uh that they they hid
them as quote legal fees to their law firms, Perkins cooy.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They had five point six million in legal fees that
were paid in one bill and they they hid that
amount in there. And and once they created the Steele
dossier that just made blatant lies about Donald Trump, Uh,
they then gave it to the FBI, and and and
Obama DOJ and FBI officials were active in covering up
(09:30):
that this came from the Hillary Clinton campaign. And understand
this is during the presidential campaign, this is while the
campaign is in full speed. This this false oppo research document.
It was just concocted. It was just created out of
whole cloth. It became the basis for for then an
FBI investigation, and and that FBI investigation was then uh
(09:53):
eagerly leaked uh to the press, and the press breathlessly
reported on it. And the fact that the FBI would
investigating it took it as as confirmation that that that
Vladimir Putin was behind the Trump campaign and the entire
the entire operation was a deliberate and false, uh misleading campaign.
(10:18):
They that they they knew that it was. And and
you know, here's one thing John Solomon uh says about
the Durham Annix that just got released. Quote, this is
the smoking gun evidence inside the Durham Annics. If it
is authenticated by further investigation, it means liberal mega doner
George Soros's team knew the whole Clinton plan for Russia
(10:41):
Gate hoax four days before FBI opened up the probe,
and so did Obama, Brennan and Comy. This was a
deliberate lie, and everyone involved in it knew they were lying,
and they were lying, number one, because they wanted to
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effectively steal the election, mislead the American people. And by
the way, the Washington Posts of the New York Times
both won Pulitzer Prizes for reporting on these lies, for
repeating these lies, for being an avenue of propaganda and disinformation. So,
of course the Washington Post and New York Times are
(11:23):
very reluctant to cover what's being released now because it
shows that they operated essentially as misinformation arms of the
Hillary Clinton campaign. They did it at first hoping to
win the election through deception, but then after the election
was over, after Donald Trump was elected to his first term,
they did it within the government to try to undermine
the newly elected president of the United States. And understand
(11:46):
to do this it takes a real contempt not just
for the incoming president, it takes a contempt for the voters.
It takes a contempt for the democratic process. For someone
that's in a senior government position, whether at the FBI
or at the CIA or the Department of Justice, to say,
I don't care that the American people elected this president,
I don't like him, I disagree with him, and so
(12:09):
I'm going to abuse my government position in order to
try to destroy the presidency from within. And this was
not accidental, This was not based on misunderstandings. This was
a deliberate lie, and they knew they were lying.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You look at this and you say, okay, this is
a massive scheme. Now the question is I go back
to it. I feel like I ask you this a
lot when we have these issues come out. Will there
be any accountability for this? We know that there's some
that were pardoned by Biden, for example, that there's the
question of was that the auto pen That doesn't come
(12:48):
into play here. With Hillary Clinton, there have been people saying, Wow,
you're not going to be able to get anything here
because it is what it is. Politics is dirty? Get
over it. Is this in the category of politics is dirty?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Get over it? Or is there more there?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So look, I hope there is accountability. Pambondi, the Attorney General,
has created a strike force that is investigating these lies,
investigating this cover up. The challenge is going to be
the Statute of Limitations, and look at statutal limitations. It's
it's ordinarily for something like this five years. The Statute
Limitations is designed to stop prosecutors from bringing cases on
(13:23):
things that are many, many years decades old. And there
are a lot of reasons for that. But for most
of this conduct it has passed the Statute of limitation.
There's some exceptions. So for example, Andrew McCabe, the Deputy
director of the FBI, lied to Congress and he did
so within the last five years. And so McCabe McCabe
(13:43):
of all of the players. Probably faces the greatest legal
jeopardy because he's got If it can be demonstrated that
he deliberately lied to Congress under oath, that that is
a felony that carries jail time with him with respect
to other conduct, other lies done under oath. If it
happened before the Statute of Limitations. The only way to
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bring a prosecution is for the prosecutors to argue that
the information was concealed and that told the Statute of limitations.
That's a plausible argument, but it's difficult to prove it's not.
Courts don't agree with that often, and so that makes
it more challenging to bring those cases.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
So is this more of an issue now? Of all? Right?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The American people know they relied to they know that
there's corruptions at the highest level in our government. They
know that they did this while they were in power,
and they know they did to also cover up. And
Hillary Clinton has still not been held accountable. I mean,
some could argue maybe on election day when she's running
against Trump, but with the email scandal and the declassified documents,
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you look at what she did compared to what they
rated Marlago over it is disgusting the abuse of power
by the Democratic Party over the last two administrations when
they've been in power.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
It is And you look at a press release the
Hillary Clinton campaign put out and and it reads as follows,
quote Hillary for America a statement on US government formally
naming Russia responsible for election related hacks. John Podesta, chair
of Hillary for America, released the following statement Friday, quote,
the world now knows beyond a shadow of a doubt
(15:17):
that the hack of the Democratic National Committee was carried
out by the Russian government in a clear attempt to
interfere with the integrity of our elections. The only remaining
question is why Donald Trump continues to make apologies for
the Russians. Trump's initial reaction to the hack in July
was to invite further intrusions by the Russians, even after
he was reportedly briefs on the very findings that were
just publicly announced by the US government officials. He stood
(15:39):
on a debate stage one week ago and played dumb
about Russia's role in this hack. He has repeatedly praised
Vladimir Putin, outlined a list of pro Putin policies, and
has done hundreds of millions of dollars of business with
Russian interests. Every word of what that press release said
is false. They knew it was false, and they were
willing to campaign based on Lawe and Hillary Clinton, according
(16:01):
to this emails, personally approved those lies.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Senator, I want to get to this other big issue,
and that is Democrats are not just abandoning Israel. They
are straight up anti Israel, and they're showing it now
as they're voting. A record number of Senate Democrats are
going to block weapons sales to Israel. They're doing it
numbers we've never seen before. And this on top of
(16:29):
the fact that The New York Times has had to
basically correct the claim about a viral photo of a
starving gods a boy they blamed on Israel and actually
wasn't true at all, and they didn't correct it like
in the paper. They did it on x on their
PR account that like no one follows this is now
(16:49):
how bad it's gotten not only in the media but
also in DC.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Well, you know, when I arrived in the Senate thirteen
years ago, there was meaningful bipartisan support for is It
was one of the issues that you could see Republicans
and Democrats come together. Twenty thirteen. When I got here
was the beginning of the second term of Barack Obama,
and Barack Obama began to turn the Democrat Party against Israel.
(17:15):
That turn accelerated dramatically during the Biden administration, and Joe
Biden ended up being the most anti Israel president and
the most anti Israel administration we've ever seen. Joe Biden,
in the midst of a war that Israel was in,
cut off weapons, froze weapons to Israel, and did so
specifically to prevent Israel from killing terrorists Hamas, terrorists who
(17:37):
had attacked Israel viciously in one of the most horrific
terrorist attack in world history October seventh, where Hamas murdered
over twelve hundred civilians, targeted civilians directly, raped and murdered
women and little girls. And the Democrats, looking at the
aftermath of this, more and more of them decided they
(17:59):
stand with Hamas, and sadly, there is a real and
growing pro Hamas contingent of the Democrat Party today. This week,
Bernie Sanders brought a resolution trying to block weapons sales
to Israel. Now Bernie Sanders has been rabidly anti Israel
for a long time, most left wing socialists and Marxist are,
(18:21):
but Bernie Sanders resolutions trying to cut off Israel usually failed,
and usually failed with a big, big vote. Well, this
week the Senate rejected it again, and we rejected it
by a vote of seventy to twenty seven. But there
were twenty seven votes in favor of Bernie Sanders's resolution.
There are only forty seven Democrats in the Senate. That
(18:41):
means more than half of the Senate Democrats voted to
cut off funding for Israel. That is a dramatic shift.
And by the way, if you compare it to in
April we had a similar vote and only fifteen Democrats
voted for it. In November of twenty twenty four, eighteen
Democrats voted for for it. So so moving up to
(19:02):
twenty seven is a major shift and and and it
is a disturbing pattern where when faced with a choice,
do we support Hamas or do we support Israel? More
and more Democrats they're afraid of the aocs, They're afraid
of the ilhan Omars, they're afraid of the Rashida Talibs.
(19:22):
In the House, the the pro Hamas squad, and they're
also afraid of the radical protesters on college campuses. Understand,
those protesters are funded by George Soros. They're funded by
the same people who fund the Democrat Party. And more
and more elected Democrats have decided that that that they
will not anger the pro Hamas radicals and and and
(19:43):
so I've got to say it is sad to see. Uh,
but let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
By the way you mentioned yeah, well, and let me
ask you this.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So, look, we know that there's more people on the
House side, so you'll get some you know, fringe groups
in the House side on the Democratic Party already, even
like more hardcore conservacicy in the past with Conservative caucuses,
you can see numbers move there. The Senate's kind of
been like the place of elder statesmen, and like there's
(20:13):
certain issues that you kind of just see that like, hey,
we're going to be the adults in the room. I
think that's the scariest part of these votes I'm witnessing
now is this has moved from the House and the
radicals there that you kind of expected through that the
AOC and her group, right, you expect it, But now
it's moved into the Senate Chamber. And that is really,
(20:37):
I think telling about the anti semitism of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
More than half of the Senate Democrats voted to cut
off military funding for Israel. That's a milestone that's never
happened before. And by the way, it happened at the
exact same time that we saw three governments worldwide, governments
of US allies but that are led by leftists. The
government of the United Kingdom, the government of France, and
(21:02):
the government of Canada all came out in favor of
recognizing an independent Palestinian state. And I want you to
think about the message that the UK and France and
Canada are saying. They're saying to Hamas your terrorism worked.
They're saying to Hamas, we're glad you murdered twelve hundred
innocent civilians. We're glad you raped women and little girls.
(21:22):
By the way, they're also saying to Hamas, we're glad
you continue to keep hostages to this day. You do
not release the hostages. They're saying to Hamas, we're glad
you're responsible for starving Palestinians and Gaza. Understand that the
human suffering in Gaza is the direct result of Hamas.
Hamas could end this right now. And Donald Trump, by contrast,
(21:43):
put out a tweet this week and he said Hamas
could end the suffering right now by stopping fighting and
releasing the hostages. They don't want to, and in fact,
Hamas is actively negotiating. You know what, they're negotiating for
cut off food aid for Palestinians and Gaza. We Hamas
want to control all the food because it's one of
(22:05):
the ways we keep in power is by starving anyone
who opposes us. That is who the United Kingdom and
France and the Canadian government is supporting. And that is
also sadly who now a majority of Senate Democrats are supporting.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You also look at the media, and there's a second
part of this conversation. The New York Times has had
to roll back acclaim they put it out there of
a viral photo of a starving Gaza boy. It was propaganda.
It was clearly propaganda from the terrorists and those that
want you to somehow believe that Israel's starving kids. It
(22:46):
did not happen that way at all. The New York
Times was forced to correct it, and I think they
did it in such just a disgusting way because they
issued their statement sharing how they quote originally didn't include
this boy's pre existing health condition, But they didn't really
do it in the newspaper like on the front page,
(23:07):
where the same way they did the picture, the damage
already been done. They corrected the story by going to
the New York Times p R Twitter, not even the
New York Times Twitter account, the New York Times pr
account that virtually no one's gonna see.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, look, this was not a picture that that they
just had as a kind of side note in a
small story. This is a picture the New York Times
put on the front page. It occupies more than half
of the front page, above the fold. It is a
massive picture, and it's a horrible picture. It's a picture
of a little boy. He appears to be starving. His
(23:46):
spine is sticking out. I mean, it's a very disturbing.
It's an eighteen month old child, which which they they
said he was starving, he faced life threatening malnutrition, and
they blame that on Israel and they used it to
push Hamas's propaganda. After they did that, the New York
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Times was forced to issue a correction and they did
the correction, as you noted on Twitter where no one
would see it, And their correction says that what they
didn't tell people Here's what their statement was.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Children in Gaza are malnourished and starving, as New York
reporters and others have documented. We recently ran a story
about Gaza's most vulnerable civilians, including Mohammad Zakira al Mataqua,
who is about eighteen months old and suffers from severe malnutrition.
We have since learned new information, including from the hospital
that has treated him and his medical records, and have
(24:38):
updated our story to add context about his pre existing
health problems. This additional detail gives readers greater understanding of
his situation. Our reporters and photographers continue to report from
Gaza bravely, sensitively, and at personal risk, so that our
readers can see firsthand the consequences of the war. That's
(24:58):
their fairly ridiculous retract where they admit they're lying to you.
Now here's what they didn't tell us That Muhamma's mother
indicated that her son suffers from quote a muscle disorder
through which he received specialized nutrition and physical therapy. And
another journalist reported the young boy has quote cerebral palsy,
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hypoexemia and was born with a serious genetic order. So
they showed a child who's very sick, but he's not
very sick from starvation, he's very sick from other medical conditions.
And the New York Times happily plays the role of
Hamas's propagandists, and sadly Senate Democrats are cheering on that
(25:43):
false propaganda. Interestingly enough, the pattern of this is exactly
the same as the pattern of Hillary Clinton signing off
on the false Russia story. It is take a lie,
count on the corporate media to spread that lie, count
on Democrat politicians to spread that not lie, and count
on friendly governments to spread that lie as well. And
(26:04):
and everyone involves knows they are lying, but their political
agenda in this instance they hate Israel, they want to
undermine Israel, and they want to elevate Hamas, and sadly
that more and more Senate Democrats are falling into that camp.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Senata, I want to move to this new report that's
come out, and it is something that we have been
really like raising the flag on, saying pay attention to this,
be careful where you send your kids to college, be
careful that they're going to be indoctrinated to hate America. Uh,
and be careful where you send your kids, because there's
(26:39):
a lot of money that's coming in from countries that
are trying to undermine America and hate America. We're now
seeing more of this at Harvard, with Harvard's ties now
directly to the Chinese Communist Party elites. That has been
revealed on a level we haven't seen before, and it's
(27:00):
been more shocking of where Harvard's getting their cash. And look,
China is not doing this because they like Harvard. They're
clearly doing it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
For influence, unquestionably, and you know, you know, some have
criticized the Trump administration going after Harvard University. Harvard is
the most influential university on the face of the planet,
and it also many universities in America have been in
bed with the Chinese Communist Party. The Chinese government spends
(27:30):
millions of dollars trying to get influence and trying to
brainwash our students, trying to control our universities, and far
too many universities have been really eager to participate in that.
And Harvard has been right at the front of the
list well this week that the House of Representatives has
an investigation and they sent a letter to the President
of Harvard. This is a letter from John Mullinar, who
(27:50):
is the chairman of the Select Committee on the CCP
in the House. It's from Tim Wahlberg, who's the chairman
of the House Committee on Education and Workforce. And it's
from Alie Stephonic, the chairwoman of House Republican Leadership. And
here's what the letter says. It's addressed to the President
of Harvard University, Alan Garber, and it says, Dear President Garber.
The Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party and the
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Committee on Education and Workforce have identified new evidence related
to Harvard University's connections to the Chinese Communist Party and
request additional information. During our investigation, multiple whistleblowers told us
that Harvard has maintained close formal relationships directly with Chinese
Communist Party entities. Specifically, whistleblower information revealed ties between Harvard
(28:37):
and the Central Organization Department of the Central Committee of
the CCP, as well as certain Chinese government entities. The
CCP Organization Department is one of the most powerful bodies
within the Communist Party. It is responsible for the regimated,
regimented training program centered on Shijingping thought provided to the
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party elites, and controls the p placemen of CCP members
in key leadership positions. The whistleblowers also revealed that Harvard
cultivates ties with elite CCP members. For example, whistleblowers reveal
that the Harvard Kennedy School hosts a formal partnership with
the Chinese Executive Leadership Academy Poodong, which is controlled by
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the CCP Organization Department. Under that partnership, the rising CCP elite,
who are being prepared for senior Communist Party leadership positions,
participate in training at Harvard in the United States. Additional
publicly available information indicates that some of these relationships have
been in place for at least a decade. In twenty sixteen,
(29:44):
a high ranking member of the Chinese Academy of Social
Sciences stated that Chinese Quote Party and government cadres participate
in education and training run by the CCP Organization Department.
The Chinese government sends some cadres aba abroad to the
John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. This
(30:05):
is shocking, and it certainly appears from this investigation. And
they request all documents related to any engagement between Harvard
and the CCP and the government of China, and a
list of all money that has come from China and
the Chinese government. And my prediction is Harvard is going
to fight tooth and nail not to turn this over
(30:26):
because they don't want people to know just how eager
they have been to be in bed with the communists
running the Chinese government.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Can we also just be very queer, like China doesn't
do this because they like higher education or they're just
trying to get let's say they're students in That would
be like the most g rated version of the story
that you could tell. They're doing this to buy genuine
influence at the highest levels in academia and America. And
also this could have major consequences for the US when
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it comes to national security or spies and countless other
infiltration activities that they're part of all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Look, that's exactly right. You look at Harvard trains many
of our nation's elite. For example, I just typed in
a quick list on on on Ai how many senators
went to Harvard, and Ai promptly gave me an answer.
There are currently twelve senators who are Harvard alumni, and
I will admit sadly that it came back and says
(31:30):
the list includes individuals like Ted Cruz, Tim Kane, Jack Reed,
Chuck Schumer, and Mitt Romney. So so I'm a little
embarrassed to be the first name on that list. But
that is part of the reason that that that that
Harvard puts that Harvard, that China puts that money into Harvard,
into Columbia, into elite universities across this country. Is they
(31:51):
want to train America's leaders. They want to train members
of Congress, they want to train members of the executive branch.
They want to train federal judges. They want to train
the foreign pologies apparatus uh and and and they are
trying to train them uh and and they're trying to
propaganda as they use this for brainwashing, they use this
for espionage. And and far too many of our universities
(32:12):
have been so eager to take the money. Uh that
that that they have welcomed Chinese communists with open arms.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
When you look at where they are right now and
you look at Harvard, is this just about the money,
do you think or is this also about the fact
that Harvard has no problem agreeing on a lot of
issues with China.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, it's both and and listen, the Harvard faculty is
is hard left. One one point I've I've said many
times is that when I was a student at Harvard
Law School, there were more professors who were Communists than
there were who were Republicans. And and that's not hyperbole
that there were at least a dozen professors who openly
said they were Marxists, that they were followers of the
(32:56):
teachers teachings of Karl Marx, and and followers of of
you know, Karl Marx is the father of Communism. When
I was a student there there was only one professor
who openly identified as Republican. That was Charles Freed. And
by the way, Charles Freed, the loan Republican on the
faculty voted for Barack Obama, so so their loan Republican
voted for Obama as well. That that was the range
(33:19):
of thought thirty years ago, and it is much much
worse now, as you know. My most recent book is
entitled Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism, in America, And
the opening chapter talks about cultural Marxism, how it it.
It grew at Harvard University, it spread to universities throughout
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this country. It spread to K through twelve, education, to journalism,
to big business, to big tech, to entertainment, uh and
and and sadly, you know, I called the universities the
Wuhan lab of the Woke virus because they're where it
was created, They're where it mutated, and they're where it spread.
And and and Harvard was ground zero for that spread.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Final question on this, will Congress be able to really
do anything on this issue to stop this type of
money coming into these universities.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Look, I hope.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
One of the very first pieces of legislation that I
passed thirteen years ago was legislation that banned Defense Department
money from going to universities that have Confucius institutes. Confucius
institutes were paid for by the Chinese Communist government. They
were at universities all over the country. I got that through,
I got that passed and signed into law. I actually
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got bipartisan support for it, and as a result, dozens
of Confucius institutes shut down all over the country. So
we can make a real impact. I've got more legislation
to require transparency of foreign money going to universities. We
ought to know about it. And look, the Trump administration
is trying hard to expose this and to stop it,
(34:58):
and I salute the president for doing Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
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