1. European Union vs. Elon Musk and Free Speech
- The EU fined Elon Musk’s platform X (formerly Twitter) $140 million under the Digital Services Act (DSA) for failing to comply with transparency and moderation requirements.
- Ben and the Senator argue this is an attack on free speech, claiming the EU wants to impose censorship globally, including on American platforms.
- They highlight a letter from the EU in August 2024 urging Musk to censor content related to Donald Trump’s interview, framing it as an attempt to silence political discourse.
- The discussion emphasizes the contrast between U.S. First Amendment protections and Europe’s regulatory approach, warning of potential ripple effects on American free speech.
- There’s a call for the Trump administration to retaliate with sanctions against the EU, such as tariffs, to prevent foreign influence on U.S. speech norms.
2. Tucker Carlson’s Ties to Qatar
- Tucker Carlson’s visit to Qatar, where he interviewed the Prime Minister during the Doha Forum.
- Ben and Senator Cruz criticize Carlson for allegedly failing to ask tough questions about Qatar’s:
- Support for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.
- Funding of anti-American and anti-Semitic propaganda, including protests on U.S. campuses.
- Lobbying efforts in Washington and influence campaigns targeting conservative figures.
- Restrictive policies on women’s rights.
- They express concern over Carlson reportedly buying property in Qatar, framing it as aligning with a regime hostile to U.S. interests.
- The commentary portrays Carlson as sympathetic to authoritarian leaders (similar to his interviews with Putin and Iran’s president), undermining American values and Trump’s foreign policy.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, come in is verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben
Ferguson with you and Senator it's nice to be back
with you. As we've got several big stories of chat about.
One of them includes free speech and a total assault
on anything that looks like free speech coming out of
the European Union. Now they're going after X the platform
as well in a shocking move.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah. No, it really is a very dismaying development the
past week, which is the European Union find X and
find elon Musk one hundred and forty million dollars for
failing to comply with what they call transparency. And what
that means is they want X. They want X to
be censoring people. They want X to be silencing people
who are speaking. We're gonna break that down because that
(00:45):
is a real threat to free speech in the United States. Secondly,
there was a big gathering and Cutter and Tucker Carlson,
We've talked about him a lot on this podcast. He
flew to Cutter, he interviewed the Prime Minister of Cutter
and it was an opportunity. Cutter is behind a lot
of bad things in the United States. They're funding a
lot of bad things in the United States. It was
(01:06):
an opportunity for Tucker to really call him to account
all of that in today's podcast.
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really want to just take a moment and break down
for people so they understand what's happening in Europe. And
(02:18):
the reason why you should care if you're listening to
this or watching this show in the US is Europe
can have a major influence on the US. Number one,
but two, it gives crazies on the left in this
country real ideas and they can say, look, this is
what Europe is doing. This is what Europe has done.
And now we're saying Europe not only target free speech.
(02:41):
And we've witnessed people getting arrested for what they've written
online that was on a thread against a person, Wasn't
a thread against sufficient, wasn't something like that. We're talking
about free speech here is disappearing. But now they're also
targeting the platforms that allow for people in their country
to actually say what they do believe or what's on
their mind. And that is even I think more scary.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, we've talked about that. The single most important step
for free speech in our lifetimes was Elon Musk's buying Twitter.
Twitter was actively censoring conservative views, it was promoting left
wing views. Elon came in. He spent nearly fifty billion
dollars to buy Twitter, and it transformed it because he
created a free speech oasis. It is now the public square.
(03:27):
And I will say, with that exaggeration, I don't know
that Donald Trump wins in twenty twenty four if Elon
Musk had'n bought Twitter. Because the corporate media so utterly corrupt,
they were pushing the Democrat talking points, they were silencing
any point to the contrary, and Twitter being open and
allowing free speech gave an opportunity to actually drive the facts.
(03:49):
So when the Democrats would say the border is secure,
Twitter would light them up because you'd actually get the
facts that twelve million people were invading at the border,
and people understood. Now, the EU, the European Union, is
trying to go after Twitter and they want Twitter to
actively censor their content. Doing that would really hurt free
speech in America. Let me read from the New York Times,
(04:11):
not a place I often read from, and here's their story.
Elon Musk's X hit with one hundred and forty million
dollars fine. In Europe, the case over online transparency has
become a point of contention between the European Union and
the Trump administration. The European Union find X the social
media company owned by Elon Musk one hundred and forty
(04:31):
million dollars on Friday for violating one of the bloc's
major laws targeting the technology industry. The case has been
seen as a test of European officials' willingness to aggressively
regulate tech companies at the risk of antagonizing the Trump administration.
X is the first company that's no surprise, the first
(04:52):
company to be fined on the European Union's Digital Services Act,
a sweeping law intended to force law large internet companies
to protect their platforms against manipulation and illicit content. The
Trump administration has criticized the policy as an attack on
free speech and American tech firms. Regulators in Brussels said
(05:13):
the penalty against x was not about free speech, but
about the company's lack of controls to prevent the platform
from being abused. That includes x x's deceptive design that
allowed users to mislead others about their identities, opaque advertising practices,
and refusal to provide independent researchers with access to public data.
(05:34):
Look at the end of the day, and one of
the things x has done recently is they've started displaying
on users what country they're coming from. That is really transparency.
I'm all for more transparency. And I've arged elon like
we are saying in American debate, a lot of X
users from foreign countries, for the Middle East, who are
(05:56):
pushing anti Semitic content, who are pushing anti American content,
who are pushing anti free enterprise and anti capitalist content.
And they're from the Middle East, they're from China, they're
from Asia. And that transparency, like identifying foreign actors, that's valuable.
But that's not what the European Union is doing. And listen,
they want you know, they say it's about misinformation, but
(06:16):
understand what the European Union wants is they want views
they don't like censored. And so I'll tell you I've
called on President Trump this should not stand that the
European Union will not reverse this fine. I've called on
the President to sanction the European Union to use our
economic leverage. We're not going to let Europe force their
(06:39):
censorship on the United States of America. I think this
is a really important testing moment for the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You know, I got an interesting briefing on this earlier
today from a legal group that's freedom of speech that
reached out in the EU and they said, Ben, what
we are witnessing right now is trying to in esse
force companies to pull out and to just say, hey,
we would rather have no free speech, and this is
(07:06):
what we'll do to get to a financial point where
X would have to make a financial decision. The fines
keep racking up on them, finally they just say, hey,
we're not going to do business there. They actually believe
that this could even be the governments in multiple countries
now saying we don't want free speech platforms. If we
(07:28):
find you in that platform, you'll just say fine, we'll
shut it off to your part of the world.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, and understand this in the context of Back in
August of twenty twenty four, the EU sent a letter
to Elon Musk demanding that Elon Musk censored Donald Trump. So,
if you think this is about transparency, it's not. Let
me read you some of that letters. So this is
August twelfth, twenty twenty four. Dear mister Musk. I'm writing
(07:55):
you the context of recent events in the United Kingdom
in relation to the planned broadcast on your platform X
of live conversation between a US presidential candidate yourself, which
will also be accessible to users in the EU. I
understand that you're currently doing a stress test of the platform.
In this context, I am compelled to remind you of
the due diligence obligation set out in the Digital Services
(08:18):
Act as outlined in my previous letter. As the individual
entity ultimately controlling a platform with over three hundred million
users worldwide, of which one third is in the EU,
that has been designated as a very large online platform,
you have the legal obligation to ensure x's compliance with
EU law and in particular the DSA and the EU.
(08:42):
This notably means ensuring on the one hand that freedom
of expression and of information, including media freedom and pluralism
are effectively protected. That sounds good, but here's the other part.
And on the other hand, that all proportionate and effective
mitigation measures are put in place regarding the amplification of
(09:02):
harmful content in connection with relevant events, including live streaming,
which if unaddressed, might increase the risk profile of X
and generate detrimental effects on civil discourse and public security.
This is important against the background of recent examples of
public unrest brought about by the amplification of content that
(09:24):
promotes hatred, disorder, incitement to violence, or certain instances of disinformation.
It also implies one informing EU judicial and administrative authorities
without undula delay on the measures taking to address their
orders against content considered illegal according to national and or
(09:45):
EU law, and two taking timely, diligent, non arbitrary and
objective action against receipt of notices by users concerning certain
illegal content. Three informing users concerning the measures to ti
taken upon receipt of the relevant notice, and four publicly
reporting about content moderation measures. In this respect, I note
(10:09):
that the DSA obligations apply without exception or discrimination to
the moderation of the whole user community and the content
of X, including yourself as a user with over one
hundred and ninety million followers, which is accessible to EU
users and should be fulfilled in line with the risk
based approach of the DSA, which requires greater due diligence
(10:31):
in case of a foreseeable increase of the risk profile.
As you know, formal proceedings are already ongoing against X
under the DSA, notably in areas linked to the dissemination
of illegal content and the effectiveness of the measures taken
to combat disinformation. As the relevant content is accessible to
EU users and being amplified also in our jurisdiction, we
(10:54):
cannot exclude possible spillovers in the EU. Therefore, we are
monitor the potential risks in the EU associated with the
dissemination of content that may incite violence, hate and racism
in conjunction with major political or societal events around the world,
including debates and interviews in the context of elections. Let
(11:14):
me clarify that any negative effect of illegal content on
X and the EU, which could be attributed to the
ineffectiveness of the way that X applies the relevant provisions
of the DSA, may also be relevant in the context
of ongoing proceedings and of the overall assessment of x's
compliance with EU law. This is in line with what
(11:35):
has already been done in the recent past, for example,
in relation to the repercussions and amplification of terrorist content
that incites violence, hate and racism in the EU, such
as the content of the recent riots in the United Kingdom.
I urge you to promptly ensure the effectiveness of your
systems and report measures taken to my team yours sincerely,
(11:57):
Tiy Breton. Look, that was literally in August of twenty
four the EU was telling X, you're about to interview
Donald Trump. He's running for president, he was going to
be elected president just a few months after that, and
we want you to silence what he says. If he
talks about the open border, if he talks about murderers
(12:19):
and rapists and gang bangers, terrorists coming across the southern border,
we want you to censor that because you know what,
it may make the terrorist and illegal immigrants in Europe
unhappy if they hear that Donald Trump opposes that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It is Look, it also sounds like they were hoping
that they would basically say, we're just going to not
even take the risk, just cancel the whole interview with
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Silence Trump, is what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Silence Trump, don't do the interview. Then you don't have
to worry about any of these issues with us that
we're writing you about right now. That is an unbelievable
amount of pressure coming from the EU to try to
say to Twitter you want to do or ex you
want to do business here, you better play by the
rules that we're giving you, and we're telling you don't
interview the leading candidate for the presidency and the Republican
(13:06):
Party and listen.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Europe does not have the tradition of the First Amendment
of the United States. The First Amendment protects free speech.
We have a robust free speech culture. Europe has far less.
They are willing to regulate free speech. But what they're
trying to do here is silence free speech in America.
They're trying to find American companies and by the way,
under Joe Biden, the Biden administration was going to the
(13:30):
European Union saying, will you find American companies to force
them to rein in their content. This is something that
the Biden administration encouraged. And I got to tell you,
I believe that the Trump administration is going to stop this.
I will be shocked if Elon Musk pays this fine.
I am publicly calling on the Trump administration to impose
(13:53):
sanctions on the EU, and sanctions that are of order
of mag.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
When you talk about sanctions on EU, give exams impulse
for everybody that's listening or watching, Look, could look.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Look a five percent tariffs and all goods from the EU.
I mean that would by the way, that would run
into the billions of dollars, and suddenly Europe would have
a choice, do we want to spend billions of dollars
in order to find X one hundred and forty million dollars.
I don't know if they would or not. I think
they'd reverse. So I'll tell you today I met with
the Foreign Minister of Latvia. And so often foreign heads
(14:28):
of state, foreign ministers come to DC, they come meet
with me, and the Foreign Minister of Latvia. I like
her sheet. She's a nice woman and we've met before.
And one of the things that we were talking about
the challenges in Europe. We were talking about increasing energy
exports from the United States, from Texas to Europe. All
of that's important. But I told her, I said, minister,
(14:48):
I want you to hear something. Americans are really, really
deeply pissed off that the European Union is trying to
find X for allowing free speech. Yeah, And I told her,
I said, you need to take back to the EU.
I believe the Trump administration will sanction Europe if you
continue this. And I said further, I said, look, there
(15:09):
are voices within the Trump administration that are arguing for
America disengaging for Europe. Arguing for essentially an isolation is
foreign policy that says we don't care what Europe does.
You guys, go on your own way. It's not our
problem now. As you know, I disagree with that. I
think Europe we have many of our oldest alliances in
the world. I think being a good friend to our allies,
(15:32):
being a strong and formidable enemy to our enemies is
really important. So I don't want to write Europe off.
But I told the Latvian Foreign minister today, I said, listen,
when the EU does things like finds x for allowing
free speech, you end up making my position much harder
because you fuel the folks in the Trump administration that say,
(15:54):
screw Europe, let's withdraw altogether, because those guys they hate us.
I don't think you're hates US, but I do think
they have a different free speech tradition than they do,
and in my view, we should not allow the EU
to impose their government censorship perspective on America. I think
(16:15):
we had to press back really, really vigorously on this.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more on that one.
It also brings up another very interesting conversation and it
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foreign influence, and there is a lot of people that
are like I don't understand why it's a big deal
that a bunch of Americans that are conservative influencers are
(17:44):
running to countries like Qatar, taking trips over there that
are being paid for by them, and putting up what
I would describe as propaganda on social media on behalf
of Katar. But people that see they're like, what's the
big deal? Tucker Carlson shows up speaks this Doha forum.
Why is that a big deal? Why should I care?
I want you to explain before we get to Tucker,
(18:08):
what Katar has been doing to influence America, so people
understand who we're dealing with and why you might want
to ask the question why would you be going there?
I forget Tucker's name. There are a lot of concerns
I know that have been taking these types of trips recently.
They're trying to buy influence in the conservative movement, and
it's frustrating me because I don't think people understand the
(18:31):
threat that Qatar is to this country at all.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Look, Qatar is not our friend. Qatar is spending hundreds
of millions of dollars lobbying the United States government. They
are spending millions of dollars funding bots you look at
the anti Submitic content, you look at the anti American
content that is online, Qatar is funding it. By the way,
you look at the anti Semitic protests on college campuses,
(18:55):
Qatar is funding that that they are profoundly hostile to
American I will tell you there was a conference this
past week in Doha, which is in Qatar, had a
number of Americans go. They're the most prominent of which
was Tucker Carlson. And I want to tell you. Look,
I sent a tweet so Tucker Carlson was going to
interview the Prime Minister of Qatar, and listen. I have
(19:17):
been very vocal that I think Tucker Carlson has become
the most dangerous demagogue in America. I think he's doing
enormous damage. But I try to give him an opportunity.
So here's what I tweeted before his interview. I said
the following. For years, Tucker Carlson has been accused of
being on the payroll of Qatar. For years, he has
denied it. This is now a beautiful opportunity for him
(19:42):
to try to clear his name. Tomorrow, Tucker is interviewing
the Prime Minister of Qatar in Doha, Tucker knows how
to ask tough questions. Here are a few he should ask.
Number one, Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece for anti Americanism,
anti Semitism, and Jahadis terrorists. Why does Cutter pour countless
(20:03):
tens of millions into supporting it? Number two? Why does
Cutter back the Muslim Brotherhood? A group designated as a
terrorist organization by several of Cutter's neighbors, and which President
Trump is also moving to designate. Number three? Hamas planned
the October seventh atrocities while Cutter hosted hamas leadership. This
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included the kidnapping and murder of dozens of Americans. Even
the Biden administration wanted Cutter to expel Hamas after hostage
talks collapsed. Why did Cutter keep hosting hamas leadership?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Let's just pause it for one second as you were
tweeting this out, because I don't think we'll understand they
were actively hosting these terrorists.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
The leaders of AMASA live in Cutter. They live in
opulent mansions, They live like billionaires while they are murdering
not just Israelis, but Americans, while they are raping not
just Israeli's but Americans and Cutter is embracing them and
they're like like movie stars living and Cutter by the way.
Number four, Speaking of which, on October seventh, twenty twenty three,
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Cutter issued a statement saying Israel alone was responsible for
the violence. Then in September of twenty twenty four, Cutter's
amir said Israel was responsible for the war expanding to Lebanon.
Is that still Cutter's position? Number five? Cutter is the
only Gulf country that still maintains male guardianship and travel
(21:38):
restrictions for women. When do you intend to join the
civilized world? So if you actually believe women have rights,
that ain't the case, And Cutter thiks numbers do.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
You mean by that real fast so that people understand
the context of it, of what you because it made
just sound like, okay, what does that even mean for women?
What is life like there? Explain how that's so far
back in the Stone Ages?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Look, the rights of women are severely livered limited and Cutter.
Males are treated as the decision makers. They have control
over their wives, they have control over their daughters, and
the rights of women are severely diminished and Cutter, so
that's an obvious question to ask of like why don't
you believe women have any rights? Number six, how much
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is Cutter paying to fund anti Semitic protests on US
college campuses? Understand, we saw protests all over America. Cutter
was spending millions of dollars to fund that. And simple
question why? Number seven, how much is Cutter paying to
spy on US government officials and why? And to be clear,
there were multiple news stories Cutter hired spies to spy
(22:44):
on me because they viewed me as the US government
official most skeptical and antagonistic of Cutters, so they're actively
spying on me. And number eight, finally, how much exactly
are you paying conservative influencers to come to this conference
and participate? Now, if Tucker had asked those questions, it
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would have been a big deal, like he could actually
he had the Prime Minister every one of those questions
they don't have a good answer to. But he didn't
ask those questions. He didn't ask any difficult questions. He
did the same thing he did when he interviewed Putin,
which is he embraced him and kissed his rear. End
He did the same thing when he interviewed the president
(23:28):
of Iran. Which is he embraced him and kissed his rear.
End Tucker has a pattern. If you're an enemy of
America who wants to murder Americans, he will not ask
you a single hostile question. I want you to listen
to this exchange. This is a snippet of the back
and forth between Tucker and the Prime Minister of Cutter.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So last question, I've been personally not to make it
about me, but I have been criticized as being a
tool of Katar, and I just want to say what
you already know, which is I've never taken anything from
your country and don't plan to. I am, however, tomorrow,
buying a place in Quitar because I am paying a
HI check in Doha Yah. And I'm doing that because
(24:09):
I like the city. I think it's beautiful, but also
to make a statement that I'm an American and a
free man and I'll be wherever I want to be,
which I think is important. But that does kind of
leave us in a place where I have not taken
any money from Qatar. I have instead given money to Quitar,
and I wonder if you feel that that means I've
(24:31):
bought you and you will now spew my prop again.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Thank you just asking me. Whatever you want me to
do for you, I will do it. But look, Tucker, Unfortunately,
as I told you that there are a lot of
players putting a lot of efforts to sabotage the relationship
between Katara and the United States and to try to
demonize anyone who will come to this country. Our efforts
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when we are lobby or doing you know, our outreach
in the United States is to make sure that this
relationship is safeguarded and the relationship for us is mutually beneficial.
We are not getting it from the United States, it's
we are Instead, we are buying from the United States.
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We are partnering with them. We are investing in the
United States, United States investing and Cutter, and this relationship
has been always a two ways relationship. And we pay
all these amounts for lobbying only to protect and to
safeguard this relationship. If we we are not like being
(25:40):
attacked and under a lot of like this information campaign
that's been unfortunately funded by other players who doesn't want
to see a US Cutter relationship flourish. We wouldn't. We
would spend this money for better things, you know, to
do with that relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean, you look at that question Center and it's
one of those that just you scratch your head because
there's just part of this You're like, wait, what did
I just witness? What did I just watch? There? Like
how is this real? And the idea of like I'm
buying a place have never taken anything. I just like
it here it shows I'm a free man. Didn't ask
(26:22):
any questions, not a single tough question of a man
that is allowing terrorists to sit in his country and
to orchestrate more tears texts and have killed Americans.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So understand this government that is hosting Hamas, that is
celebrating Hamas, that is funding anti American propaganda and anti
Israel propaganda and anti Semitic propaganda. He's the Prime Minister,
says to Tucker, ask me whatever you want, We will
do anything you want. He also says to Tucker, we
are spending vast amounts and lobbying. Understand, Cutter spends hundreds
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of millions of dollars lobbying the United States government, the
United States Congress. By the way, Tucker is obsessed with
because he's decided that Jews are the source of all
evil in the world. And Cutter pays two to three
times as much as APAK does in lobbying. Do you
know who APAC is. Apack are Americans that it is
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not the government of Israel. APAK are Americans who want
American Israel to have a close relationship, and so American citizens,
many of whom happen to be Jewish, although not all
of them, who support a lot of actually Christian evangelicals
also who support a strong relationship between the United States
and Israel. They do write checks, but they write checks
that that are on order of magnitude anywhere from a
(27:37):
third to a half what Cutter, the foreign government writes
they spend hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying our government.
And I got to say, Tucker, Tucker claims to be America. First,
he is literally buying a home in Cutter Cutter who
is actively funding anti American propaganda, anti Semitic propaganda. And
(28:00):
by the way, Tucker says, oh, I've never taken a
penny from you. By the way, you know, I don't
know what kind of sweetheart real estate deal he's getting,
But who the heck what American? Let me ask you, Ben,
you know a lot of people do you know any
other American who wants to buy a home and cut
her No.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
In fact, I've known a lot of international people. I've
never heard of anybody going, yeah, I'm head, never to
cut her to go buy a home, not like, not
one time, No one. And I know people outside the US,
they've never said that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Look, and I think there's a reason for it, which
is that I don't know why. I've had conversations about
why Tucker has decided by the way, Tucker is actively
attacking President Trump's foreign policy. He is furious that President
Trump decided to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities, and even
more mad that that bombing was incredibly successful. It was
(28:51):
the single most important foreign policy and national security decision
that President Trump has made in the second term. And Tucker, I.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Think start War three. I'm pretty sure that's what they
said was going to happen. Isn't that right? It was
going to start World War three?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So let's be clear, it's not they. Tucker predicted if
Trump bombed Duran. Yes, he said it would cause World
War three. Number one, he said thousands of Americans would die.
Number two, and he said America would lose, Iran would
beat US. In World War Three. Now, every one of
those predictions was laughably absurdly wrong. And yet Tucker is
(29:29):
now buying a home and cut her and saying, Hey,
you crazy theocratic Islamist America, hating radicals, you're my people.
That is really, really, really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, the questions that we just asked there, I really
hope that all of you will share those on social media.
Share the episode on social media, share the video we
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Speaker 2 (29:54):
Let me ask you a question, Let me ask a questions.
Why do you think Tucker didn't ask a single one
of the questions I suggested? I sent eight, and they
were not They were not ridiculous questions. They were actually questioned.
If you are in fact America first, and you're interviewing
the leader of this country, that that that that is
funding things that are profoundly anti American, anybody would ask
(30:18):
if you and I were interviewing them, we would ask
those questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think it's the same reason why he gave a
powderpuff interview with Vladimir Putin. I think it's the same
reason why he was sitting down with the head of Iran.
It is because when he goes there, he knows the
role he's playing, which is a propagandist for those countries.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I wish that were not the case, but but I
can't argue against that. He does not ask a single
question defending America. Instead, he just embraces leaders that that
that that are doing enormous damage to Americans, and and
and and and that, by the way, is I think
significantly undermining President Trump as well.
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Well, come in is verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben
Ferguson with you and Senator it's nice to be back
with you. As we've got several big stories of chat about.
One of them includes free speech and a total assault
on anything that looks like free speech coming out of
the European Union. Now they're going after X the platform
as well in a shocking move.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah. No, it really is a very dismaying development the
past week, which is the European Union find X and
find elon Musk one hundred and forty million dollars for
failing to comply with what they call transparency. And what
that means is they want X. They want X to
be censoring people. They want X to be silencing people
who are speaking. We're gonna break that down because that
(00:45):
is a real threat to free speech in the United States. Secondly,
there was a big gathering and Cutter and Tucker Carlson,
We've talked about him a lot on this podcast. He
flew to Cutter, he interviewed the Prime Minister of Cutter
and it was an opportunity. Cutter is behind a lot
of bad things in the United States. They're funding a
lot of bad things in the United States. It was
(01:06):
an opportunity for Tucker to really call him to account
all of that in today's podcast.
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really want to just take a moment and break down
for people so they understand what's happening in Europe. And
(02:18):
the reason why you should care if you're listening to
this or watching this show in the US is Europe
can have a major influence on the US. Number one,
but two, it gives crazies on the left in this
country real ideas and they can say, look, this is
what Europe is doing. This is what Europe has done.
And now we're saying Europe not only target free speech.
(02:41):
And we've witnessed people getting arrested for what they've written
online that was on a thread against a person, Wasn't
a thread against sufficient, wasn't something like that. We're talking
about free speech here is disappearing. But now they're also
targeting the platforms that allow for people in their country
to actually say what they do believe or what's on
their mind. And that is even I think more scary.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, we've talked about that. The single most important step
for free speech in our lifetimes was Elon Musk's buying Twitter.
Twitter was actively censoring conservative views, it was promoting left
wing views. Elon came in. He spent nearly fifty billion
dollars to buy Twitter, and it transformed it because he
created a free speech oasis. It is now the public square.
(03:27):
And I will say, with that exaggeration, I don't know
that Donald Trump wins in twenty twenty four if Elon
Musk had'n bought Twitter. Because the corporate media so utterly corrupt,
they were pushing the Democrat talking points, they were silencing
any point to the contrary, and Twitter being open and
allowing free speech gave an opportunity to actually drive the facts.
(03:49):
So when the Democrats would say the border is secure,
Twitter would light them up because you'd actually get the
facts that twelve million people were invading at the border,
and people understood. Now, the EU, the European Union, is
trying to go after Twitter and they want Twitter to
actively censor their content. Doing that would really hurt free
speech in America. Let me read from the New York Times,
(04:11):
not a place I often read from, and here's their story.
Elon Musk's X hit with one hundred and forty million
dollars fine. In Europe, the case over online transparency has
become a point of contention between the European Union and
the Trump administration. The European Union find X the social
media company owned by Elon Musk one hundred and forty
(04:31):
million dollars on Friday for violating one of the bloc's
major laws targeting the technology industry. The case has been
seen as a test of European officials' willingness to aggressively
regulate tech companies at the risk of antagonizing the Trump administration.
X is the first company that's no surprise, the first
(04:52):
company to be fined on the European Union's Digital Services Act,
a sweeping law intended to force law large internet companies
to protect their platforms against manipulation and illicit content. The
Trump administration has criticized the policy as an attack on
free speech and American tech firms. Regulators in Brussels said
(05:13):
the penalty against x was not about free speech, but
about the company's lack of controls to prevent the platform
from being abused. That includes x x's deceptive design that
allowed users to mislead others about their identities, opaque advertising practices,
and refusal to provide independent researchers with access to public data.
(05:34):
Look at the end of the day, and one of
the things x has done recently is they've started displaying
on users what country they're coming from. That is really transparency.
I'm all for more transparency. And I've arged elon like
we are saying in American debate, a lot of X
users from foreign countries, for the Middle East, who are
(05:56):
pushing anti Semitic content, who are pushing anti American content,
who are pushing anti free enterprise and anti capitalist content.
And they're from the Middle East, they're from China, they're
from Asia. And that transparency, like identifying foreign actors, that's valuable.
But that's not what the European Union is doing. And listen,
they want you know, they say it's about misinformation, but
(06:16):
understand what the European Union wants is they want views
they don't like censored. And so I'll tell you I've
called on President Trump this should not stand that the
European Union will not reverse this fine. I've called on
the President to sanction the European Union to use our
economic leverage. We're not going to let Europe force their
(06:39):
censorship on the United States of America. I think this
is a really important testing moment for the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You know, I got an interesting briefing on this earlier
today from a legal group that's freedom of speech that
reached out in the EU and they said, Ben, what
we are witnessing right now is trying to in esse
force companies to pull out and to just say, hey,
we would rather have no free speech, and this is
(07:06):
what we'll do to get to a financial point where
X would have to make a financial decision. The fines
keep racking up on them, finally they just say, hey,
we're not going to do business there. They actually believe
that this could even be the governments in multiple countries
now saying we don't want free speech platforms. If we
(07:28):
find you in that platform, you'll just say fine, we'll
shut it off to your part of the world.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, and understand this in the context of Back in
August of twenty twenty four, the EU sent a letter
to Elon Musk demanding that Elon Musk censored Donald Trump. So,
if you think this is about transparency, it's not. Let
me read you some of that letters. So this is
August twelfth, twenty twenty four. Dear mister Musk. I'm writing
(07:55):
you the context of recent events in the United Kingdom
in relation to the planned broadcast on your platform X
of live conversation between a US presidential candidate yourself, which
will also be accessible to users in the EU. I
understand that you're currently doing a stress test of the platform.
In this context, I am compelled to remind you of
the due diligence obligation set out in the Digital Services
(08:18):
Act as outlined in my previous letter. As the individual
entity ultimately controlling a platform with over three hundred million
users worldwide, of which one third is in the EU,
that has been designated as a very large online platform,
you have the legal obligation to ensure x's compliance with
EU law and in particular the DSA and the EU.
(08:42):
This notably means ensuring on the one hand that freedom
of expression and of information, including media freedom and pluralism
are effectively protected. That sounds good, but here's the other part.
And on the other hand, that all proportionate and effective
mitigation measures are put in place regarding the amplification of
(09:02):
harmful content in connection with relevant events, including live streaming,
which if unaddressed, might increase the risk profile of X
and generate detrimental effects on civil discourse and public security.
This is important against the background of recent examples of
public unrest brought about by the amplification of content that
(09:24):
promotes hatred, disorder, incitement to violence, or certain instances of disinformation.
It also implies one informing EU judicial and administrative authorities
without undula delay on the measures taking to address their
orders against content considered illegal according to national and or
(09:45):
EU law, and two taking timely, diligent, non arbitrary and
objective action against receipt of notices by users concerning certain
illegal content. Three informing users concerning the measures to ti
taken upon receipt of the relevant notice, and four publicly
reporting about content moderation measures. In this respect, I note
(10:09):
that the DSA obligations apply without exception or discrimination to
the moderation of the whole user community and the content
of X, including yourself as a user with over one
hundred and ninety million followers, which is accessible to EU
users and should be fulfilled in line with the risk
based approach of the DSA, which requires greater due diligence
(10:31):
in case of a foreseeable increase of the risk profile.
As you know, formal proceedings are already ongoing against X
under the DSA, notably in areas linked to the dissemination
of illegal content and the effectiveness of the measures taken
to combat disinformation. As the relevant content is accessible to
EU users and being amplified also in our jurisdiction, we
(10:54):
cannot exclude possible spillovers in the EU. Therefore, we are
monitor the potential risks in the EU associated with the
dissemination of content that may incite violence, hate and racism
in conjunction with major political or societal events around the world,
including debates and interviews in the context of elections. Let
(11:14):
me clarify that any negative effect of illegal content on
X and the EU, which could be attributed to the
ineffectiveness of the way that X applies the relevant provisions
of the DSA, may also be relevant in the context
of ongoing proceedings and of the overall assessment of x's
compliance with EU law. This is in line with what
(11:35):
has already been done in the recent past, for example,
in relation to the repercussions and amplification of terrorist content
that incites violence, hate and racism in the EU, such
as the content of the recent riots in the United Kingdom.
I urge you to promptly ensure the effectiveness of your
systems and report measures taken to my team yours sincerely,
(11:57):
Tiy Breton. Look, that was literally in August of twenty
four the EU was telling X, you're about to interview
Donald Trump. He's running for president, he was going to
be elected president just a few months after that, and
we want you to silence what he says. If he
talks about the open border, if he talks about murderers
(12:19):
and rapists and gang bangers, terrorists coming across the southern border,
we want you to censor that because you know what,
it may make the terrorist and illegal immigrants in Europe
unhappy if they hear that Donald Trump opposes that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It is Look, it also sounds like they were hoping
that they would basically say, we're just going to not
even take the risk, just cancel the whole interview with
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Silence Trump, is what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Silence Trump, don't do the interview. Then you don't have
to worry about any of these issues with us that
we're writing you about right now. That is an unbelievable
amount of pressure coming from the EU to try to
say to Twitter you want to do or ex you
want to do business here, you better play by the
rules that we're giving you, and we're telling you don't
interview the leading candidate for the presidency and the Republican
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Party and listen.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Europe does not have the tradition of the First Amendment
of the United States. The First Amendment protects free speech.
We have a robust free speech culture. Europe has far less.
They are willing to regulate free speech. But what they're
trying to do here is silence free speech in America.
They're trying to find American companies and by the way,
under Joe Biden, the Biden administration was going to the
(13:30):
European Union saying, will you find American companies to force
them to rein in their content. This is something that
the Biden administration encouraged. And I got to tell you,
I believe that the Trump administration is going to stop this.
I will be shocked if Elon Musk pays this fine.
I am publicly calling on the Trump administration to impose
(13:53):
sanctions on the EU, and sanctions that are of order
of mag.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
When you talk about sanctions on EU, give exams impulse
for everybody that's listening or watching, Look, could look.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Look a five percent tariffs and all goods from the EU.
I mean that would by the way, that would run
into the billions of dollars, and suddenly Europe would have
a choice, do we want to spend billions of dollars
in order to find X one hundred and forty million dollars.
I don't know if they would or not. I think
they'd reverse. So I'll tell you today I met with
the Foreign Minister of Latvia. And so often foreign heads
(14:28):
of state, foreign ministers come to DC, they come meet
with me, and the Foreign Minister of Latvia. I like
her sheet. She's a nice woman and we've met before.
And one of the things that we were talking about
the challenges in Europe. We were talking about increasing energy
exports from the United States, from Texas to Europe. All
of that's important. But I told her, I said, minister,
(14:48):
I want you to hear something. Americans are really, really
deeply pissed off that the European Union is trying to
find X for allowing free speech. Yeah, And I told her,
I said, you need to take back to the EU.
I believe the Trump administration will sanction Europe if you
continue this. And I said further, I said, look, there
(15:09):
are voices within the Trump administration that are arguing for
America disengaging for Europe. Arguing for essentially an isolation is
foreign policy that says we don't care what Europe does.
You guys, go on your own way. It's not our
problem now. As you know, I disagree with that. I
think Europe we have many of our oldest alliances in
the world. I think being a good friend to our allies,
(15:32):
being a strong and formidable enemy to our enemies is
really important. So I don't want to write Europe off.
But I told the Latvian Foreign minister today, I said, listen,
when the EU does things like finds x for allowing
free speech, you end up making my position much harder
because you fuel the folks in the Trump administration that say,
(15:54):
screw Europe, let's withdraw altogether, because those guys they hate us.
I don't think you're hates US, but I do think
they have a different free speech tradition than they do,
and in my view, we should not allow the EU
to impose their government censorship perspective on America. I think
(16:15):
we had to press back really, really vigorously on this.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more on that one.
It also brings up another very interesting conversation and it
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foreign influence, and there is a lot of people that
are like I don't understand why it's a big deal
that a bunch of Americans that are conservative influencers are
(17:44):
running to countries like Qatar, taking trips over there that
are being paid for by them, and putting up what
I would describe as propaganda on social media on behalf
of Katar. But people that see they're like, what's the
big deal? Tucker Carlson shows up speaks this Doha forum.
Why is that a big deal? Why should I care?
I want you to explain before we get to Tucker,
(18:08):
what Katar has been doing to influence America, so people
understand who we're dealing with and why you might want
to ask the question why would you be going there?
I forget Tucker's name. There are a lot of concerns
I know that have been taking these types of trips recently.
They're trying to buy influence in the conservative movement, and
it's frustrating me because I don't think people understand the
(18:31):
threat that Qatar is to this country at all.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Look, Qatar is not our friend. Qatar is spending hundreds
of millions of dollars lobbying the United States government. They
are spending millions of dollars funding bots you look at
the anti Submitic content, you look at the anti American
content that is online, Qatar is funding it. By the way,
you look at the anti Semitic protests on college campuses,
(18:55):
Qatar is funding that that they are profoundly hostile to
American I will tell you there was a conference this
past week in Doha, which is in Qatar, had a
number of Americans go. They're the most prominent of which
was Tucker Carlson. And I want to tell you. Look,
I sent a tweet so Tucker Carlson was going to
interview the Prime Minister of Qatar, and listen. I have
(19:17):
been very vocal that I think Tucker Carlson has become
the most dangerous demagogue in America. I think he's doing
enormous damage. But I try to give him an opportunity.
So here's what I tweeted before his interview. I said
the following. For years, Tucker Carlson has been accused of
being on the payroll of Qatar. For years, he has
denied it. This is now a beautiful opportunity for him
(19:42):
to try to clear his name. Tomorrow, Tucker is interviewing
the Prime Minister of Qatar in Doha, Tucker knows how
to ask tough questions. Here are a few he should ask.
Number one, Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece for anti Americanism,
anti Semitism, and Jahadis terrorists. Why does Cutter pour countless
(20:03):
tens of millions into supporting it? Number two? Why does
Cutter back the Muslim Brotherhood? A group designated as a
terrorist organization by several of Cutter's neighbors, and which President
Trump is also moving to designate. Number three? Hamas planned
the October seventh atrocities while Cutter hosted hamas leadership. This
(20:25):
included the kidnapping and murder of dozens of Americans. Even
the Biden administration wanted Cutter to expel Hamas after hostage
talks collapsed. Why did Cutter keep hosting hamas leadership?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Let's just pause it for one second as you were
tweeting this out, because I don't think we'll understand they
were actively hosting these terrorists.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
The leaders of AMASA live in Cutter. They live in
opulent mansions, They live like billionaires while they are murdering
not just Israelis, but Americans, while they are raping not
just Israeli's but Americans and Cutter is embracing them and
they're like like movie stars living and Cutter by the way.
Number four, Speaking of which, on October seventh, twenty twenty three,
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Cutter issued a statement saying Israel alone was responsible for
the violence. Then in September of twenty twenty four, Cutter's
amir said Israel was responsible for the war expanding to Lebanon.
Is that still Cutter's position? Number five? Cutter is the
only Gulf country that still maintains male guardianship and travel
(21:38):
restrictions for women. When do you intend to join the
civilized world? So if you actually believe women have rights,
that ain't the case, And Cutter thiks numbers do.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
You mean by that real fast so that people understand
the context of it, of what you because it made
just sound like, okay, what does that even mean for women?
What is life like there? Explain how that's so far
back in the Stone Ages?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Look, the rights of women are severely livered limited and Cutter.
Males are treated as the decision makers. They have control
over their wives, they have control over their daughters, and
the rights of women are severely diminished and Cutter, so
that's an obvious question to ask of like why don't
you believe women have any rights? Number six, how much
(22:21):
is Cutter paying to fund anti Semitic protests on US
college campuses? Understand, we saw protests all over America. Cutter
was spending millions of dollars to fund that. And simple
question why? Number seven, how much is Cutter paying to
spy on US government officials and why? And to be clear,
there were multiple news stories Cutter hired spies to spy
(22:44):
on me because they viewed me as the US government
official most skeptical and antagonistic of Cutters, so they're actively
spying on me. And number eight, finally, how much exactly
are you paying conservative influencers to come to this conference
and participate? Now, if Tucker had asked those questions, it
(23:08):
would have been a big deal, like he could actually
he had the Prime Minister every one of those questions
they don't have a good answer to. But he didn't
ask those questions. He didn't ask any difficult questions. He
did the same thing he did when he interviewed Putin,
which is he embraced him and kissed his rear. End
He did the same thing when he interviewed the president
(23:28):
of Iran. Which is he embraced him and kissed his rear.
End Tucker has a pattern. If you're an enemy of
America who wants to murder Americans, he will not ask
you a single hostile question. I want you to listen
to this exchange. This is a snippet of the back
and forth between Tucker and the Prime Minister of Cutter.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So last question, I've been personally not to make it
about me, but I have been criticized as being a
tool of Katar, and I just want to say what
you already know, which is I've never taken anything from
your country and don't plan to. I am, however, tomorrow,
buying a place in Quitar because I am paying a
HI check in Doha Yah. And I'm doing that because
(24:09):
I like the city. I think it's beautiful, but also
to make a statement that I'm an American and a
free man and I'll be wherever I want to be,
which I think is important. But that does kind of
leave us in a place where I have not taken
any money from Qatar. I have instead given money to Quitar,
and I wonder if you feel that that means I've
(24:31):
bought you and you will now spew my prop again.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Thank you just asking me. Whatever you want me to
do for you, I will do it. But look, Tucker, Unfortunately,
as I told you that there are a lot of
players putting a lot of efforts to sabotage the relationship
between Katara and the United States and to try to
demonize anyone who will come to this country. Our efforts
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when we are lobby or doing you know, our outreach
in the United States is to make sure that this
relationship is safeguarded and the relationship for us is mutually beneficial.
We are not getting it from the United States, it's
we are Instead, we are buying from the United States.
(25:20):
We are partnering with them. We are investing in the
United States, United States investing and Cutter, and this relationship
has been always a two ways relationship. And we pay
all these amounts for lobbying only to protect and to
safeguard this relationship. If we we are not like being
(25:40):
attacked and under a lot of like this information campaign
that's been unfortunately funded by other players who doesn't want
to see a US Cutter relationship flourish. We wouldn't. We
would spend this money for better things, you know, to
do with that relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean, you look at that question Center and it's
one of those that just you scratch your head because
there's just part of this You're like, wait, what did
I just witness? What did I just watch? There? Like
how is this real? And the idea of like I'm
buying a place have never taken anything. I just like
it here it shows I'm a free man. Didn't ask
(26:22):
any questions, not a single tough question of a man
that is allowing terrorists to sit in his country and
to orchestrate more tears texts and have killed Americans.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So understand this government that is hosting Hamas, that is
celebrating Hamas, that is funding anti American propaganda and anti
Israel propaganda and anti Semitic propaganda. He's the Prime Minister,
says to Tucker, ask me whatever you want, We will
do anything you want. He also says to Tucker, we
are spending vast amounts and lobbying. Understand, Cutter spends hundreds
(26:54):
of millions of dollars lobbying the United States government, the
United States Congress. By the way, Tucker is obsessed with
because he's decided that Jews are the source of all
evil in the world. And Cutter pays two to three
times as much as APAK does in lobbying. Do you
know who APAC is. Apack are Americans that it is
(27:14):
not the government of Israel. APAK are Americans who want
American Israel to have a close relationship, and so American citizens,
many of whom happen to be Jewish, although not all
of them, who support a lot of actually Christian evangelicals
also who support a strong relationship between the United States
and Israel. They do write checks, but they write checks
that that are on order of magnitude anywhere from a
(27:37):
third to a half what Cutter, the foreign government writes
they spend hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying our government.
And I got to say, Tucker, Tucker claims to be America. First,
he is literally buying a home in Cutter Cutter who
is actively funding anti American propaganda, anti Semitic propaganda. And
(28:00):
by the way, Tucker says, oh, I've never taken a
penny from you. By the way, you know, I don't
know what kind of sweetheart real estate deal he's getting,
But who the heck what American? Let me ask you, Ben,
you know a lot of people do you know any
other American who wants to buy a home and cut
her No.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
In fact, I've known a lot of international people. I've
never heard of anybody going, yeah, I'm head, never to
cut her to go buy a home, not like, not
one time, No one. And I know people outside the US,
they've never said that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Look, and I think there's a reason for it, which
is that I don't know why. I've had conversations about
why Tucker has decided by the way, Tucker is actively
attacking President Trump's foreign policy. He is furious that President
Trump decided to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities, and even
more mad that that bombing was incredibly successful. It was
(28:51):
the single most important foreign policy and national security decision
that President Trump has made in the second term. And Tucker, I.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Think start War three. I'm pretty sure that's what they
said was going to happen. Isn't that right? It was
going to start World War three?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So let's be clear, it's not they. Tucker predicted if
Trump bombed Duran. Yes, he said it would cause World
War three. Number one, he said thousands of Americans would die.
Number two, and he said America would lose, Iran would
beat US. In World War Three. Now, every one of
those predictions was laughably absurdly wrong. And yet Tucker is
(29:29):
now buying a home and cut her and saying, Hey,
you crazy theocratic Islamist America, hating radicals, you're my people.
That is really, really, really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, the questions that we just asked there, I really
hope that all of you will share those on social media.
Share the episode on social media, share the video we
put up on Facebook. We put it up on and Ben.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Let me ask you a question, Let me ask a questions.
Why do you think Tucker didn't ask a single one
of the questions I suggested? I sent eight, and they
were not They were not ridiculous questions. They were actually questioned.
If you are in fact America first, and you're interviewing
the leader of this country, that that that that is
funding things that are profoundly anti American, anybody would ask
(30:18):
if you and I were interviewing them, we would ask
those questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I think it's the same reason why he gave a
powderpuff interview with Vladimir Putin. I think it's the same
reason why he was sitting down with the head of Iran.
It is because when he goes there, he knows the
role he's playing, which is a propagandist for those countries.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I wish that were not the case, but but I
can't argue against that. He does not ask a single
question defending America. Instead, he just embraces leaders that that
that that are doing enormous damage to Americans, and and
and and and that, by the way, is I think
significantly undermining President Trump as well.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I want to take him and just talk to you
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to expand your mind and learn, no matter what your
age is. Senator Cruz and I were at the memorial
service for Charlie Kirk, and one of the people that
spoke was the president of Hillsdale College, and he talked
about meeting with Charlie early on and how he said,
(31:19):
you're going to have to work hard, you're going to
have to suffer, and you're going to have to continue
to learn when he was so young, and he talked
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(31:43):
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And if you didn't say these things in school, or
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