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Speaker 1 (00:01):
They tried to bankrupt us, they tried to imprison us.
And I'll never forget walking out of that jail cell
with my father in New York after the thirty four
felon accounts right which have all been overturned, and I said, Dad,
we either win the White House or you and I
are in jail for doing absolutely nothing wrong. That's how
diabolical either the pendulum was.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good Friday morning. It's so nice to have you with
us on the forty seven Morning Update, and this morning
show is going to be a little bit different, and
I think you're really gonna enjoy it. Eric Trump has
a new book that is out about his family being
attacked not only by the deep state, but also by
the private sector. He talks about the lawsuits against his family,
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the raid of mar Lago, the debanking and deplatforming, and
then the federal government and other state governments coming after them.
It is truly an incredible conversation that Senator Ted Cruz
and I had with him. So today's show will be longer,
but this is everything that he had to say about
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Speaker 2 (03:02):
Story number one.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Eric Trump has a new book out talking about the
weaponization of the private sector against his father, the government,
the federal government against his father, and state governments that
attacked his family. He was subpoenaed countless times, and you'll
be shocked to hear him talk about how much money
it costs to defend themselves from these frivolous and ridiculous lawsuits.
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Senator Cruz and I had the privilege of sitting down
with Eric to talk about his new book, and I
want you to hear what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
You know, Ben, I got to say We try to
count on being honest and candid with our viewers and listeners,
and yet you just claim that we're going.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
To take a break from politics.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And this is about as far away from taking a
break from politics as I can possibly imagine. Today, we
are very pleased to welcome our friend Eric Trump, President
Donald Trump's son, who has a brand new book. A
brand new book came out this week. The book is
entitled Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save our Nation.
He is in the midst of his nationwide book tour
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right now, and and in classic Trump fashion, he's on
the list. And there's only one place to be on
the list, and that is at number one. It's the
number one best selling book in America right now.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
And Eric, this is your first book. It ain't bad
debuting at number one. Congratulations and welcome mister senator.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now it will probably be my last book as well,
because we're not I'm not doing this again. You know,
the return, the return on time of books is especially
when you put your heart and soul into it. But yeah,
we're number one on Amazon, We're number one on all
the lists, and it's I mean, it just went viral.
I think you know, people in this country are pissed
off and and mister Centaer, you you've done a better
job fighting against a weaponization of government that I would
say just about anybody other than maybe Donald Trump, right,
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who's had to face all of this. And you know,
I became the pinata in this whole fight because I
was the one guy who didn't have constitutional protections. I
was a civilian, you know, I was the guy that
was running the Trump organization. I was the guy that
ran everything that was outside of Washington in DC from
my father when he went into the White House. And
what they tried to do to us, what they tried
to do to our family, what they tried to do
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to this nation, what they tried to do to you
and all your viewers on this show is unthinkable, and
somebody had to materialize it because there's the greatest governmental
corruption this nation has ever seen.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, you're right, and they launched everything they had at
your father, at your family, four separate indictments. On top
of that, the asinine case from the New York Attorney
General trying to argue that somehow global international banks are
innocent wifes who are deceived and are apparently are unable
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to value real estate because you know, giant banks have
never had to value real estate in the past. I
will confess for me, maybe the most absurd moment of
all of it was when the idiot judge in New
York valued bar a Lago at eighteen million dollars, which
I'll confess I saw it.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I would have bought it for that.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I saw your dad not shortly after that, and I
offered it on the spot. I said, mister President, I'll
give you twenty million right now.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Well they too, I mean, as you as you know.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
You can't buy a hot dog stand in Palm Beach
for eighteen million dollars. And and that notion that to me,
it was the most ludicrous. It was a relatively small
detail of what was a pile of idiocy upon idiocy,
But you guys were the targets of it, and and it.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
It cannot have been fun.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Mister Center.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I became the most opeenion man in American history for
doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm not Hunter Biden. I never
had a speeding ticket in my life. I've lived a
very straight, very good life, hard working guy, no games,
never even approached a line. You know, raised right, you know,
and and they tried to destroy us. I was the
one that was ganging calls from the FBI. You remember
the Rushia hoos very well because you were probably the
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best person at fighting against it. Eric, I hear you
have secret servers in the basement Trump Tower communicating directly
with the Kremlin. I go, excuse me, I literally started
mister center. I started laughing. I started laughing. I go,
First of all, you don't keep servers in basements, because
basement's flood. Second of all, were like largely cloud based.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
And they did it so a.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Greedy woman could get about three extra votes, right, and
they used that as their explanation as to why she lost.
And then it was a peachment number one, and then
it was a peachment number two, and then it was
them attacking Cavanaugh. And then it was one hundred and
twelve subpoenas that I received for again doing nothing wrong.
And then it was a weaponization of every attorney general
and district attorney in this country, whether it be Latitia
James or Alvin Bragg or Cy Vance or Fanny Willis
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and her boyfriend in Fulton, Georgia, you know, or Jack
Smith or Comy and everything that they did. Then they
spied on her campaign. Then they did the weaponization of Faiza.
Then they took my father off the ballot in Colorado,
and then they took him off the ballot in Maine.
And when that didn't work, they tried to silence his
voice and get rid of his First Amendment right.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
So what did they do?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Took him off of YouTube, took him off of Twitter,
took him off of Facebook, took him off of Instagram.
And when that didn't work, when we popped up true social,
what did they do. They had every judge imposed gag
orders on him and then they rated mar A Lago.
I was the guy that got the call when thirty
FBI agents were outside screaming in a phone to me
turn off the security cameras at mar A Lago. They
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did everything they could and then they de banked us,
and then they deplatformed us. And they were doing it
to the people in this country as well. They were
debanking them. They were going after their pastors, they were
going after their churches. They were weaponizing the irs. You know,
they were skipping great people who had worked their butts
off their entire year because of dei hires and literally
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ruining upward mobility of people across the country. They were
corrupting their children, they were teaching them revisionist history. This
siege wasn't just against the Trump family, it was against
all of us. It was against both of you. It
was against every person that's watching us right now. And
people are pissed off in this country, and that's why
this book went to number one.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You mentioned mar Lago a second ago and getting that
phone call. Can you just explain how insane that day
must have been because I know people we saw it
on TV, but you were on the inside. And when
you're getting a phone called, they're telling you to turn
your cameras off.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
So like, what time of day is it, what are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It was about seven fifty eight o'clock in the morning
when I got a call from my team. They say,
the thirty FBI agents and they have a search warrant.
I go, what are they searching? I'm not sure if
I understand, Like we have like such a great relationship
with law enforcement.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It was bizarre at the time. I go, how would
I not know about this? From Secret Service? How would
I not know? I mean, they didn't give anybody warning
and I'll never forget, I said, I finally figured out
what they were doing, and I said, did anybody let
my father know? And it was my team, really and
they said no, and I go, we'll call him right now,
and we met in his office and that's when he
wrote up that beautiful tweet, as you remember. And the
FBI was so damn pissed that we sent out that tweet.
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They wanted to have the narrative, they wanted to be
able to release the story, and instead my father writes
that beautiful tweet. You know, right now, the FBI is
raiding the famous Mara A Lago, my home, you know,
and in the world when the world couldn't stand it.
It was the worst decision that they ever made. And remember, Senator,
they said it was on behalf of Nara right National Archives.
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Does anybody I went on Hannity that night, I go,
does anybody actually believe with glorified library send thirty FBI
agents to invade Mara A Lago with firearms? Give me
a break, right, And then sure enough it comes out
there was Joe Biden, and it was Merrick Garland, and
it was the whole host of criminals that weaponized the
entire system. But I'll never forget that call. Thirty FBI
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agents outside of mar A Lago. They searched Milania's room,
they search Baron's room. They took attorney client privileged documents,
they took hippa documents.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
You can't make it up.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I know you're going to try to terrorize the New
York Times a little bit. That's the hardest thing is
just to screw with them and be at the top
of their list. So everyone listening, I hope you'll buy
the book just so we can screw with them a
little bit. Center you've been at the top of that list.
It's hard to get there.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Well, I will say, Eric, you should brace yourself. It
doesn't matter how many copies of the book you sell.
The New York York Times is going to insist that
that like Left Handed Transgender Witches, is the number one
book in America, And to be fair, in the New
York Times newsroom, it probably is the number one book
in America. But but if you get outside the New
York Times and to the rest of America, there are
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a lot of people right now that are going to Amazon.
Go to Amazon right now. By Eric truck Trump's book.
Keep it at number one, Annoy a liberal by two,
buy one for yourself, and buy one to give a
liberal just to drive them crazy, and and and to say,
explain to me again how you think weaponization is a
bad thing. Because because your your liberal friends, to the
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extent you have any that they haven't defriended you, they're
not going to have an answer to that. Eric, tell
me what was your dad's reaction when you went in
and and told them, okay, the FBI agents are here.
I assume he was pissed, but like, what was his
immediate reaction when you tell him that.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
It was actually remarkably calm.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know, it's it's you know, I've seen my father
pissed many times, but he doesn't get pissed off and
in situations of kind of like great angle stress. Right,
it's no different than Butler. But you know, almost foreshadow
Butler is the same thing. It's it's I probably would
have been Piston Butler, And I think he was actually
remarkably calm, especially in the aftermath of what happened. And
you know he was always his commist in the worst moments, always,
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I mean, and centator. Do you saw many of them?
I mean, you were there for many of them in
so many different ways. You know, he never let emotion fly.
It was it was a very He goes, you gotta
be kidding me, all right, honey, meet me in my office.
You know, we're going to write up a statement. And
that's when he let that truth fly. And you know,
the rest is history. I mean, for the next month,
they had helicopters buzzing over mar a Lago and you
know the scenes of that front gate. You remember this,
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the cop car from the front gate of mar Lago.
I mean, mar Lago became, not that it wasn't probably already,
but he became the most famous property in the world
based on that raid and what they did, and then
the aftermath of all of it, we find out Jack
Smith was bringing in classified folders and effectively staging photo
shoots on.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The office floor of my father's office.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But you know, as I said before, guys, I mean
they were going through Malania's closet, they were going through
Baron's room. They they literally they took his medical records
right like hip a related records that pissed off the judge.
I can only tell you they took attorney client documents right.
That also really pissed off Aileen Cannon, the judge on
the case. You just you couldn't believe it. And then
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you know, again, all of this was stage. You think
Donald Trump just leaves classified folders fanned out perfectly on
the floor. I mean, it was all staged. It was
all set up. They wanted to imprison him. They wanted
to take his voice. They wanted to imprison him. They
wanted him behind bars. They didn't want him to be
able to campaign. They wanted to weaponize the system in
any way, shape or form, and they weren't able to
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do it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
A lot of people remember the deep platforming, and you
mentioned that earlier, and you go back to the end
of his first term in office. But one of the
things you mentioned earlier on was they tried to ruin
your businesses by d banking. You can you explain for
people that don't understand just how critical that was in
a time and the Trump organization. You've been handed the
family business to run it, and now you're finding out
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you can't even have banking the way that you need
to have banking to literally run businesses, whether you're big
business or small business. A lot of people listening right now.
If you don't have a bank, you don't have a business.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yeah, Ben, it was that times one hundred.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean they they literally it was coordinated by the administration,
There's no question about it. And they called up and
they said, listen, congratulations, you cancel the account. I was
getting these letters. I got one from Capital One. They
had three hundred bank accounts. And these aren't like baby
bank accounts. These are massive commercial buildings that have hundreds
of tenants, you know, thousands of people working in these buildings,
hundreds if not thousands, of vendors, heavy real estate taxes.
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I mean people, hundreds and hundreds of people depend their
livelihoods depend on on these businesses. They've got complicated lock
box provisions and loan you know, loan documents, thousands of
inputs coming in like this, you know, and they just
called up. You know, your accounts are going to get closed.
You've got one or two days to move them, and congratulations,
you're done. All because we wore a hat that said
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make America Great Again.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
That was read.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
These weremmercial buildings, These were condominium associations, These were small
golf courses, these were you know, residential shops. These were
scrow accounts, things that had nothing to do, nothing to
do with politics whatsoever, and they canceled us like we were dogs.
Capital One was the worst. JP Morgan was horrible, Bank
of America was horrible. First Republic was terrible. But it
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wasn't just the banks. It was platform Shopify. Shopify literally
gave us a notice they do all the e comm
platforms in the middle of the night turned off our
accounts like we were nothing right. We were selling golf
polos that we have, you know, from mar A Lago,
and they did everything they could to hurt us, to
turn off the rails right again. They wanted our voice gone,
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They wanted us bankrupt, they wanted the name off of
every building. They wanted us thrown out of New York.
You had Letitia James that was trying to repossess our assets.
I mean it was almost like forfeiture. It was not constitutional.
Hence the reason the appellate courts throughout the case five
zero and we got a resounding victory two weeks ago
or three weeks ago. Guys, they tried everything they could
and because I was the guy outside of Washington, DC,
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because I ran the company, it all fell on me.
That's how I became the most opened person the history
of this country, having never done a damn thing wrong.
They wanted to get to my father coming through me.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
That Now, were these business accounts, personal accounts both? I mean,
how many accounts are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Roughly like what.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Five five hundred, you know, lots of those being business accounts,
all of them being us. You know, my wife has
a like athletic clothing line. You know, JP Morgan Chase
wouldn't open up an account, so you know, for for her,
she's not Donald Trump, She's not the Trump organization. They
did this to everyone in the family. If you even
came close, you know, if you even came close. I
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have a little farm with a couple of buddies. They
canceled that account doesn't wear a Trump.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Name, it can't. They were indiscriminate.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
If it was six degrees of sep in narration from Trump,
they canceled us. And honestly, guys, you know, I've been outspoken,
you know, a big fan of you know, cryptocurrency. That's
how I found crypto because I realized how quickly financial
institutions can be weaponized against the American people, and realize
that there's nothing that can be done on you know,
using traditional financial institutions that can't be done better, faster, cheaper,
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safer and more efficiently using cryptocurrency.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
And I'm the biggest proponent of it.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Did did they even even purport to give you any
explanation or do they just say no, it's canceled like
like that that they didn't Was there any details or
you just get phone calls or get an email and say, okay,
this this account's done.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Other other than a lot of those, you know a
lot of the people that worked in the in the
banks who otherwise said this is the most I can't
believe it. I can't believe what my bank's doing. This
is all political. That's what they're saying in the corridors
every day. They canceled you for political reasons. There's no
other explanation they're telling us. You know, they're telling us
we can't talk to you ever.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Again.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I was unbelievable, and I would not wish that on
my worst enemy. To take the rails of being able
to pay employees, these are housekeepers, these are janitors, these
are engineers, these are secure officers, these are drivers, hospitality workers,
to not be able to pay them a salary, all
because somebody wanted to politicize a system against a candidate
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because they happened to be a conservative and they believed
in making America great again.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Sata, this is a story that we're hearing about the
weaponization of the private sector, not the government, the private
sector against the Trump organization. The moment that he just said,
five hundred bank accounts just shut down, I'm shocked by that.
I think you were as well.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
That number.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I'd never heard anything remotely close to that. I mean,
that really is stunning. So you're running your families outside businesses,
you get these calls. What do you do when you're
given what you said twenty four hours forty eight hours notice,
like were there banks that were willing to welcome your
business or what did you do with five hundred accounts
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being canceled.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You're a lot of attorney generals and you had a
lot of government in tutions that were going to these
banks saying don't even think about it, don't touch that account.
You know, Letitia James was doing that to the bonding
companies when we had to after the initial ruling, when
we had to post a six hundred million dollar bond.
By the way, that that was like five times the
size of the Boeing bond that that made them. You
know that literally, I it was the biggest bond ever
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seen in the country, you know. And she was going
to the very same institutions saying, don't even touch that bond.
So we had to post a bond based on the
court before we had everything overturned. And she was going
to the biggest insurance company saying, you don't touch that bond.
You know, you're you're registered in New York and if
you touch that bond, I'm going to think less favorably
on you. That's how badly they weaponize the system. What
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do you do when you get those letters? You want
to crawl under your desk. And honestly, I had I
had probably one hundred people in the company that didn't
sleep for a six month period of time, who were distraught.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
And thank god, we had enough.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Little local banks you know that that you move all
the accounts unthinkable right to these little local branches who
want to take your money. But these weren't the Morrigan's,
these weren't the Bank of Americas. They were still a
little they were small little mom and pop regional banks
that did the right thing and honestly probably saved us
based on the fact that they were willing to do
the right thing. This didn't just happen to us. I
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was on the campaign trail. I'd hear from people every
single day. You know, my bank canceled me. Why well,
my company makes the spring, and the spring goes in
a fishing reel, and that fishing reel sold at bass
pro shops, and bass pro shops sells twelve games duck
hunting Ammo, and they thought the affiliation. I heard this
everywhere I went. I heard it from the crypto guys.
I believed in bitcoin, I believed in stable coin. I
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believe in the future of kind of modern finance. And
because I believed in crypto currency, my banks canceled me. Well,
COVID canceled me, Bank of America canceled me. Guys, I
heard this all over the place. You know, we need
to make this illegal, and it is. It's illegal in
a lot of states and under a lot of banking clauses.
But the fact that you can literally, I mean, could
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you imagine if if eighteen and TI or of riz
and just decided to cancel all conservatives phones.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
If you can't bank, you can't survive. If you can't bank,
you can't eat. If you can't bank, you can't pay employees.
And yet they turned us off like we were dogs.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
How much money do you think that Trump when you
guys were out during the four years and under siege
like this, How many business deals got blown up because
people were afraid even to just do business with you,
because they're afraid their business would be affected negatively and
they could be targeted. I'm assuming that was a reality
for quite some time.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well, I talk a lot about it in the book.
I mean there were reporters that just made their whole livelihoods.
David Farrenholt from the Washington Post and and and others,
you know, made their entire livelihoods calling up, you know,
vendors of ours, calling up our employees, calling up brides
and grooms that we're gonna get married at one of
the properties, one of the hotels.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And they were harassing people that were getting married at
Trump resorts.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh I have I have more emails than you can
possibly imagine. You know, I hear you're gonna go get
married at at MMR Lago. Oh really, you know this
might have to make the front cover of our respective paper.
You know, can you please give me comment? And these
brides and grooms are saying, I just want to get
married in peace, you know, I just you know, there's
a beautiful property. I'm not a political person. I just
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you know it's it's a five star property. I love
the place. It's convenient, my family lives nearby. Whatever the
hell of the reason they were doing that. They were
extorting employees. They were going up to employees, and they
frankly tried to do it to me. Hey, you tell
us anything about Donald Trump, will let you go.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
You know, all your problems.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They tried to turn you against your own father.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Alvin Bragg, Are you kidding me? The Cyrus Vance, all
of them. They weaponized every da in and AG to
try and flip every single person to say anything negative,
to get any negative testimony against Donald Trump for their
own political purposes. Absolutely, that was the whole game they played.
And no one in our company broke. Guys, this was
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the siege that I dealt with every single day, right,
I mean it was it was all of these factors
that came together, all at once, all the time, doing
anything they could to to to just chop us off
at every single I mean, when they made up the
dirty dossier, when they made up right, I mean, they
have stories about prostitution in there, about golden you know,
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what's right. What do you think they were trying. They
were trying to divorce my father, They were trying to
destroy his marriage. They were trying to break up our family.
That's what they were trying to do. Also, a greedy
woman could get, you know again, two more votes. These
people are sick, These people are deranged, and there's been
zero accountability for any of it. And as a son
who fought by my father's side every single day during
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this battle, somebody had to tell this story. Somebody had
to tell the inside perspective of the lens that a
corrupt government will go to besides just spying on campaigns
and despite just you know, raiding homes, you know, all
the things that they did to try and destroy us,
to try and destroy make America great again, and try
and destroy conservatives all across the country.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Look, it was unmitigated evil, and it was driven part
of it was driven by hate. Today the defining characteristic
I think of the Democrat Party. Is they hate your father. Yeah,
and they hate your family. I mean that anything connected
to your father they hate. And I think it also though,
was a deep contempt for democracy. I think every one
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of these indictments. I think the weaponization that we saw
their underlying terror is that the voters would do what
they did in November of twenty twenty four and vote
to re elect your father. And this was all about
undermining democracy and preventing the voters from doing that. You know, Eric,
you mentioned earlier that you describe yourself as as the
most subpoena man in America. How many subpoenas did you get?
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And and and did you testify a lot of times?
Were they demanding documents? What subpoenas were coming?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
In one hundred and twelve subpoenas.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I sat in more depositions than any human being in
the history of of of depositions. And by the way,
these are like big boy subpoenas, right, They're all coming
from you know, your close friend Elizabeth Warren as we
like to call her Pocahontas, and many and many others
we turned over. I mean, they would ask for document discovery,
you know, please give us every email in the company
and they would list a thousand words, but aside from that,
they would list national and international. Well, all our hotels
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are Trump International Hotel, and all our golf courses are
Trump National Golf Course. You could probably see where this
is going. Every email signature of every person in the
company either has the word national or international in it.
That's their fishing expedition. I actually brought this to the
Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court specifically told them you
can't fish right, and they did it anyway. The judges
didn't give a damn. They wanted to find any comma
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that was out of place, and they couldn't. I mean,
in the Letitia James trial, literally Deutsche Bank was on
the stand saying that Trump was the best lender that
they've ever had.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We made them hundreds of millions of dollars, paid off
every loan, paid it off ahead of time, never missed
a payment. Even in the darkest days of COVID when
they made a shutdown our properties, we never missed, we
never defaulted, we never breached a covenant. And then one
day I wake up to the nightmare of your fine
six hundred million dollars for doing the thing wrong with
banks that loved us, that testified that they loved us.
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I mean, it was you know, and that's because you
had a crooked judge again got overturned five zero at
the next court.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
But they rigged out the entire system.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And you're seeing them do that right now, right, You're
seeing them do that in Washington, DC, where ninety four
percent of the cases that go in front of the
lower course are literally, you know, going against the administration
and then they all have to go up on a
po and get overturned. But guys, the beautiful thing about
the story is we won, right.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I mean, the.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Media loss, the media lost their credibility. No one likes
the mainstream media. I mean, my wife is on Fox
News on a Saturday and nine pm, and she's getting
four extra ratings of CNN on the same time slot
on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in primetime slots.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Right, no one likes the mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
ABC's dead, NBC's dead, CNN's dead, and independent voices like
these podcasts are winning the day.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And by the way, she is doing an awesome job.
I had a chance to be on her show, and
she's she's a great interviewer because she's relaxed, she's having fun,
she's asking real questions and and it's night and day. Uh,
you know, I I will occasionally do do CNN. Poor
Ben was on CNN for six seven years. I actually
think he has a padded room and he like like
puts on a straight actuality.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
He remembers those times.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Fighting comedies for seven years.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Hey, listen, I just came off Caitlyn Collins about twenty
minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Right, So it's not some prayers, you know, it's it's
so bad.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Let me ask you when all of this was coming in.
And it is not exaggeration to say there has never
been a political leader subject to more weaponization.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
More assaults, more.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Insanely unfair attacks than that than your father has been.
Was there ever time that that that you felt yourself
giving in to despair? And and do you think your
dad ever did?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Honestly, it's like we're like masochistic, like we like pain
or something along those lines. Right, It's like a weird trade, right,
And I think it served us well. But now I
think we were so pissed off at that point. We
wanted to fight and we wanted to win, and we
want to save the Constitution. We want to save the
American flag. We wanted to save religion in society. We
want to save the Second Amendment. We want to end
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end wokeness. We wanted to stop the DEI nonsense. You know,
men my size swimming in women's sport. We wanted to
save the greatest country in the world against absolute lunacy.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
And so we never gave up. We never stopped fighting.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
We went out there and we punched back every single day,
and we did that as a family. I never left
that stage, and honestly, I've never been more proud of
a human being in my life.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
All Right, So our guest with us is Eric Trump. Center.
You and I were just talking with him about this
really his family being under siege. You talked about these
big boy subpoenas part of that is to financially hurt you.
What did you, guys spend just doing the fighting of
all the lawsuits against you during that four year period.
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How much did it cost you?
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Roughly four hundred million, guys.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I laugh when people, oh Trump is profiting off of government,
I go, wait, wait, excuse me. If you want to
come in, I'll break down the finances you want to
Trump's profit. We spent four hundred million dollars to defend
ourselves against nonsense, the fact that we did not have
secret servers communicating with the Kremlin, the fact that Don
wasn't a Russian agent. Remember you had Adam Schiff out
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there every single day. Donald Trump Junior is a Russian agent. Guys,
if he wasn't, if he wasn't protected by the speech
and debate laws, you would have, honestly, the guy would
have been worth a zero. He would have been living
in a shoe box based on the fact that you
would have sued him for slander and taken everything that
he ever had. It was all made up lies. They
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did everything they possibly could to take us down. We
spent over four hundred million dollars between that. You know, Letitia,
you know Alvin braggs I advance, you know if Fanny, I mean,
I could.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Go on and on the raids themar alig.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
What was the worst to deal with Between Alvin braggs
I vance, Letitia, James jack Smith?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Who was the worst?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Probably did Letitia? Have you want to know the truth?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I mean, it was so corrupt and I don't know
Alvin braggbys you had Brshawn, I mean, Judge Barshawn's daughter
is like that, the head digital fundraiser for the Democratic Party,
and the guy wouldn't recuse himself, and literally, you'd be
sitting in these courtrooms, guys, and I would not leave
my father's side. I sat next to him every single day.
If he was there, I was gonna be there as
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a son to support him, you know. And most of
the time some of these cases I wasn't gagged in
so normally I was the guy in the courthouse steps,
you know, shouting and yelling at the cameras as to
what the hell was actually going on, because that's the
only way you could communicate a message. But guys, I
mean you had liberal and I mean liberal reporters who
were in that courtroom shaking their heads saying none of
this makes any sense. I mean, they shut down all
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of Manhattan Lower Manhattan for a hundred thousand dollars payment
that my father didn't even make, made by a lawyer.
They indicted him thirty four times. I mean, you know,
al Capone had had one felony indictment. They indicted my
father thirty four times for one hundred thousand dollars payment,
by the way, by a district attorney who ran on
the premise, you know, of reducing what you know, just
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decriminalizing just about anything. You know, you can shoot somebody
in the face in Times Square and it was decriminalized,
and you're gonna let them out, and you know you're
gonna have community policing and all sorts of nonsense. I mean,
he ran on the premise of literally emptying Rikers Island
so you had no criminals in there. Yet you know,
thirty four felonies in six month period of time is
shutting down New York in the FDR drive every day
over one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I mean, it wasn't believable.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
If only your father were mugging people in Times Square,
then Alvin Bragg would never have prosecuted him. But instead
he committed the unspeakable sin of not only being president
of the United States, but being an extraordinarily successful and
bold president of the United States, which which is an
unpardonable sin. All right, we don't have much much time left,
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but but I want to take it a little bit
lighter and and ask what was it like like your
father is is unique. I've never in my life, have
I met anyone remotely like your father. He and I
have spent a lot of time together. He has extraordinary courage.
But before he was president, what was it like growing
up as a kid with Donald Trump as your father? Like, like, like,
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how what was he like as a dad when you
were ten?
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Honestly, the greatest dad you can ever imagine.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Expected big things from us, right, I mean every day
I go give him kiss before I went to school. Honey,
no drink drinking, no drugs, no smoking. You better get
good grades. And by the way, never trust anybody. Right
he did once in a while I had that he
never never trust anyone. Hey, that's probably that was going
to be. I said, I've probably benefited us pretty well,
so amazing guy. You know, listen, we're spoiled as hell,
and that we lived in you know, Trump Power. We
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had a beautiful roof over our head. We were always
well fed. We we had the best education. But we
were never handed money. We're never handy cash. If we
wanted something, if I wanted a fishing rod, congratulations, your
work for it. I got on our construction sites when
I was eleven years old, doing demo, doing electrical HVAC
you know, running back hose excavators. You know, I grew
up working with my hands on our construction sites, with
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many of the guys that work for me today. And
you know what, he wanted us to learn a trait.
He wanted us to learn the value of a dollar.
And by the way, he wanted us to be tired
as hell at the end of the day. You know,
because listen, don't give Type A kids or any kid.
But don't give Type A kids money or free time,
because bad things happen. And he was an amazing father.
He is an amazing father. And everything we've ever done,
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we fought together, whether it's real estate, whether it was
The Apprentice.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I was on that for seven seasons. And then in politics.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I mean, when he decided to run, he said to us,
he goes, you know, kids, let's do this. You know,
I was on Megan Kelly. I didn't know what the
hell immigration was. I mean, Senator, this was not my world.
I built, you know, hotels, and all of a sudden,
I'm in the.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Middle of box, I a wall, and now you're on TV.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I've got ninety illegal immigrants around me, and I'm battling
all of them. And I don't know the first damn
thing about illegal immigration, right. I mean, like, this is
not the world that we came from. But my father's
a remarkable guy. My mother was an amazing powerhouse and strict,
demanded manners, demanded respect, demanded work ethic and either the
greatest parents you can ever imagine. I spent a lot
of time in underseage talking about, you know, being raised
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by them, and you know, it is unique in so
many ways, but they they did everything they could in
this strange world that we lived in to ground us
and make sure we turned out to be hard workers, normal,
you know, and didn't have any of these kind of
Hunter Biden esque problems. I don't have a laptop from hell,
you know. I don't do finger paintings selling it to
you know, foreign nationals all over the world. You know,
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never married my you know, my brother's ex wife, Like,
never did that kind of stuff. No drugs, no you know,
no perversion. I was always a good kid who believed
in God and believed in hard work and you know,
lived an honest life.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Eric.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I can't tell you how many times, dozens, if not
hundreds of times people have commented that one of the
things they admire.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Most about your dad.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Is is you and your brothers and sisters, and and listen,
it is hard for for any successful person to to
raise good kids. It's challenging. There's a lot of pressure.
And and you know, I I know know your entire family,
and I will say literally people early on throughout the
process they'll comment, well, you know, somehow his kids are
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like like not messed up and incredibly successful and put together.
And and I mean, it's all right, let me ask you.
Let's let let's say we have some young parents that
are listening to this podcast. Are there any lessons a
young parent by the way, Uh, you know Ben, Ben
has young kids, I have teenage. Are there any lessons
any lessons from your dad that that young parents should know,
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or lessons that that you've tried to apply.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, keep them poor and make them start working early. Honestly,
I mean that's what it is. Keep keep them poor.
Don't don't give type A kids money and don't give
them endless time. That's just a bad recipe, right, And
and uh, you know, I can't tell you, guys how
many friends I had, you know, who were who were here,
who went to school with me, and you know, three
quarters of them ended up in rehab and a lot
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of them went down bad roads. And guess what they
were getting ferraris you know when they're you know, sixteen
years old, Like, what do you ever want to aspire
to to get if that's if that's how you're being raised.
I mean, does it surprise you that those people don't
have work ethic? Does it surprise you that they would
go down bad roads? And my father would never let
that happen to us. And you know, he made us
work our butts off. And believe me, if I wasn't
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good at what I did real estate wise, I would
not be in this chair.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I mean, forget about nepotism for a second.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It you know, if we weren't incredibly capable, believe me,
I wouldn't be running one of the largest real estate
empires anywhere in the world. And he made us work,
and he made us prove that we were good at
what we do, and we fought every single day, and
we'ren an incredibly tight family. And he's a remarkable person.
He's my best friend. I love him to death, and
I'm so proud of him, especially in a week where
he's accomplished as much as he had. I am so
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damn proud of what he of what he did, and
what he's accomplished and the hell.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Of a journey. Guys. It's all worth it. This is
all worth it.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
The sea is all worth it based on the great
things that are happening to our country and our world.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
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