September 20, 2025 • 29 mins
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Stephen Colbert
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The cancellation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert is presented as a business decision, not political censorship.
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Executives reportedly decided months earlier that the show was not financially viable, losing tens of millions annually.
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The narrative dismisses the claim that Colbert was targeted due to pressure from Trump.
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Jimmy Kimmel
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Kimmel’s suspension is linked to his controversial comments about the Charlie Kirk incident, but the commentary stresses that his ratings collapse and loss of advertiser-friendly demographics were the decisive factors.
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Affiliates like Nextstar and Sinclair reportedly refused to continue carrying his program.
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The document argues that ABC/Disney tolerated his divisive rhetoric for years until viewership became unsustainable.
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Free Speech vs. Business Decisions
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Ben pushes back against framing these actions as “censorship” or “free speech suppression.”
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It stresses that private companies acted due to financial losses, not government interference.
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The writer warns conservatives not to advocate for FCC crackdowns, as weaponizing government against speech could backfire politically.
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Criticism of Media & Late-Night Hosts
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The episode portrays mainstream media, Colbert, Kimmel, and their peers (like Jon Stewart and Jimmy Fallon) as biased, dishonest, and partisan, often accused of misleading audiences and alienating half the country.
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Late-night TV is depicted as in decline due to excessive politicization and hostility toward conservatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, let's start with the issue that the media
has decided to go all in on, and they're claiming
that this is what dictators and tyrants do. They're claiming
that Donald Trump has gotten late night comedians fired Stephen
Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel, and they're saying, like, who's going
(00:23):
to be next, And this is what a dictator and
a tyrant does. That is a lie, and we're going
to talk about that lie. So you understand it. When
Stephen Colbert was his show was canceled, all right, And
it's a different way than being fired. It was a
canceling of the show for one reason. It was the
(00:45):
canceling of the show because it wasn't making money and
apparently it was losing listen carefully like forty million dollars
a year. That is a lot of money. There was
not pressure from the President the United States of America
for Stephen Colbert's show to be canceled. There have been
a lot in the media that are now rewriting history
(01:07):
as we speak, and they're saying that in fact, the
people that are in charge of the network have now
explicitly said that CBS was not threatened or pushed to
do what I just said, like that didn't happen. And
so if you look at the facts, it was a
(01:28):
money issue. The show costs way too much money to produce,
and the ratings weren't there. Now, when Stephen Colbert was
let go, I said this on CNN at the time,
and I made it very clear, and I said, what
you guys are not understanding is this is not canceling
of an individual because of what he said. In fact,
(01:50):
I believe that CBS would love to keep Colbert on
attacking conservatives as long as they could. In fact, they
did it to the point where they were upside down
losing money on this show and there was no way out.
And so they had made the decision. They said months
earlier now in interviews CBS executives, months earlier, they decided
not to move forward with the show, not to renew
(02:11):
the show. So when you look at this and you
look at Colbert, it's a lie to say that Stephen
Colbert was canceled because of Donald Trump. In fact, let
me just let you hear from the ex Paramount chief
who is insisting that Colbert's cancelation had nothing to do
(02:34):
was seeking the Trump administration's approval for what is being
described as a mega merger. So this is again the
grand conspiracy theory of the left. Listen to her tell
the story in her own words.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Outside of the settlement, there are other actions taken to
ensure there would be regulatory approval. I think about rollbacks
of DEI policies. I think about some things like the
cancelation of Steve Colbert's show. You know that was never
explicitly stated as being part of getting regulatory approval, but
it's something that I think a lot of people assumed.
Do you think that they made the right choices to
(03:10):
ensure that they got the regulatory approval.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm not going to tie any of that to regulatory approval.
I can tell you that we had been looking at
late night. It was financially not viable. It had been
that way for a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We paused. Listen to what she just said. Her words
right there was that I can and you know what, screw,
I'm going to back it up. I'm going to back
it up so that you can hear her words again.
It wasn't viable, she said, and it hadn't been viable
for a long time, meaning they let it go way
past the expiration date because they loved the propaganda of
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their network attacking conservatives night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It was financially not viable. It had been that way
for a long time. We had made a decision months
prior to the announcement that we were not going to
be going forward with that show. I love Stephen, he
does a great job, but we really needed to be
in a financially viable business and you saw we did
that with James Corden as well. And in terms of DEI,
I think the reasons why DEI exists matter and will
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always matter, and we need to continue to fight for
those issues. But I think the way in which DEI
has been executed has often led to more problems than
it solved. So any of the changes that were made
or continue to be made, but under us, I think
we were trying to create an environment that would address
the issues in a different way.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So translation, this is all PCBs. I'm going to go
back and I'm going to play for you what I
said on Stephen on Stephen Colbert being canceled. Now, this
was the night after Stephen Colbert was canceled. I said
this on Abby's show on CNN, And this goes to
the core of why his show was canceled because he
(04:51):
lost his audience.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They're going to get effected by some of this too,
I would say s Letterman A Leno did a much
better job of having on George Bush and then having
on Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They actually did a better job.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It was a different time, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
My point is if you stop doing it, and there
are people like me that just we don't even care.
I don't even know when the show's on. That's how
irrelevant it is. Because once he hate Once it was
so clear how much sustain he had for conservatives, and
it wasn't funnymore, you're gonna lose your show.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, listen, I really yeah, I honestly I'm with
Cherrey on this one. I mean, I think you can.
I think it's a little speculative that Elizabeth Warren of
it all, but there's no question that the direction of
linear television is going in a certain place. So that
is the by far, probably one of the bigger factors.
Can I give you a quick on yeh.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I just love there how they will not accept
the truth Colbert had made your disdain for conservatives and
it wasn't funny anymore, and he lost his audience, and
that's what led to the cancelation. The ex paramount chief
insisting Colbert's cancelation had nothing to do with seeking Trump approval.
It was about the show was unsustainable. So now you
(06:04):
fast forward to right now and they're all saying that,
you know, Stephen Colbert, and now you've got Jimmy Kimmel,
this is all about a dictator. All right, Let's look
at what Kimmel said. Kimmel said, quote, we hit some
new lows over the weekend with a maga gang desperately
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trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
anything other than one of them. Okay, that's a lie.
We know he wasn't a conservative. We know he's a liberal.
We know he hated Charlie Kirk. We know that he
wanted to take out Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk was
saying mean things he believed about his lover and he
couldn't take the hate anymore, and so he said I'm
going to kill him. That's his own words and his
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own text messages. So he's lying to you, and he
knows that he's lying to you. When he says this,
he's trying to say, this is somehow maga kid. Everybody knows,
the reason why I killed Charlie kirkis because he hated
the maga kid. He hated him, He hated him. Back
to the exact quote, Charlie Kirk is anything other than
than one of them, and doing everything they can to
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score political points from it. That's also not just a lie,
it's sick. And by the way, look at the time frame.
By the time Kimmel did this monologue, it was already
extremely clear from the governor, local law enforcement, and our
federal government law enforcement that Charlie Kirk accused assassin and
by the way, in his own words, was a leftist
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in a relationship with a furry transsexual. That's not a
maga kid, okay. And knowing this, Kimmel still told tens
of thousands of people who still watched the show that
the alleged sassion was in fact magas. So it's his fault,
Donald Trump's fault, It's conservative's fault that Charlie Kirk was killed,
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which doesn't make any sense logically, but hey, who cares
about facts, right, Let's not even care about facts at all?
The second reason why he was fired is because already
the show was losing money. And so you had two
of the country's biggest affiliates. And again, this is not
cancel culture. This is this is Nextstar in Sinclair Media
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who had had enough. Both of those networks that are
affiliates told Disney and ABC that they were done during
airing a late night show that is attacking literally their audience,
and it's a show that is only pleasing to LA
and New York viewers and maybe Boston and some other
places like that. But in normal America, no one is
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watching Jimmy Kimmel anymore for the reasons that I just stated.
And he had lost his audience in the core demographic
that you need. With an audience, okay, in a core
demographic that you need, it is a the younger generation,
and that's how you buy ads. He was down to
like one hundred and twenty something thousand. He was over
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a million a decade ago. This was a massive drop
in audience size. And so when you have Nextstar in
Saint Clair, who are about to make him even smaller,
both of them telling were done with the show because
we're done with him attacking Americans never forget if this
was really about cancel culture. Is that is the left
trying to claim that this is like a dictator and tyrant,
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like getting people fired in media. Jimmy Kimmel would have
been fired, okay when he said that people that went
to a hospital and if it's overcrowded, they hadn't gotten
the COVID vaccine deserved to die and not get care.
He did not get canceled, and he said that why
because I believe ABC and Disney love this guy. They
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held on to him while he was losing money for
a very long time. Yes, they were then finally at
the point where they were looking for an out Stephen
Colbert was not fired for censorship. It was because the
show sucked. He wasn't funny anymore. He hated half American
alien of them, and there wasn't enough audience left to
cover that. That is a very risky bet now, per
(10:04):
the Hollywood Reporter, Disney asked Kimmel to address the lie
he told in a way that quote would take down
the temperature what he planned to do, by the way
we were being told on Wednesday night. Instead, the report says,
was going to fan the flames with the Maga fan base.
Someone who worked on the show basically confirmed this while
claiming to deny it. No, no, The source said Jimmy
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was not planning of making it worse, but he also
wasn't cow telling to Maga. Okay, so now we know
now by the time all this had happened, so you
understand the timeline, sixty six big affiliates of the roughly
two hundred affiliate stations had said they would not carry
the episode, and that's when ABC announced it was suspending
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the program. And that's when the left and the crazy
media started to blame the FCC. When the Trump administration
had allowed ABC Disney to brazenly violate the public interest
clause in the broadcast for five years, four years in
the Trump's first term and nearly a year into Trump's
second term. That is how you could argue this right.
(11:08):
And the arrogant Jimmy Kimmel is the one who got
him suspended. And it wasn't for what he said the
other night. It was for alienating and attacking over half
the country every chance he could. And then when he
had his screw up, he refused to do the decent
and honorable thing, and that's when affiliate said, we're done, right,
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we are done until Jimmy Kimmel agrees to retract his
lie and tell the truth. We're done now. I don't
know if Kima will ever apologize, because he's got a
money where he can just say, here's a middle finger.
I don't care, but I do think it's interesting how
the media is trying to protect him. All the other
late night hosts, by the way, they're a narcissists, trying
to make it about themselves too in this big kumbah
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Yah United moments, And I'll read you some of that
in a moment so that you can hear what they're saying,
because it is pretty disgusting. But Jimmy Fallon, responding to
Hanimmel situation, said quote, I know Jimmy Kimmel and he's
a decent, funny and loving guy. That's not true. If
he was, he wouldn't have said that people deserve to
die if they didn't get the COVID vaccine. Like I'm
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going to call bs there. And the way that they
did their monologue was like this me too type movement. Right,
we'll stand with you, We'll stand with you, And it's
pretty pathetic, but also I would say not surprising, because
this is what the Democratic Party has become. They have
become a group of radical extremists, and a small group
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of them are just i would say, straight domestic terrorists,
and this is what they believe. All right, I want
to take a moment and I want to talk to
you real quick about what you can do to help
the people in Israel. It was nearly two years ago
that the terrorists murdered more than twelve hundred innocent Israelis
and they took two hundred and fifty hostages. Today it
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seems as if the cries of the dead and dying
have been drowned out by the shouts of anti Semitism
and just pure hatred, not just in America but around
the world. And the most brutal attack on Jewish people happened.
It happened since the Holocausts, and now it's like they're
trying to act like it never happened. Now, this is
where it is important for us to stand with the
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people in Israel. It's a movement of love and support
for the people of Israel, and this is where I
want you to get involved. It is called Flags of Fellowship.
It's being organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
On October fifth, you can stand with Israel and the
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victims proudly. Just a few weeks away, millions across America
will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity
with the victims of October the seventh, twenty twenty three,
and stand with their grieving families. You can be a
part of this movement as well. And that's what I
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love about what IFCJ does. They're making sure that the
world knows there there are lots of people of faith
in this country and friends and advocates for Israel. They're
going to stand with them. You can get more information
about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement,
including your church. There are going to be countless churches
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around the country they're going to plant flags as well.
So all you have to do to get involved with
Flags of Fellowship movement is go to if CJ dot org.
That's if CJ dot org stand with Israel on October
the fifth. It's just a few weeks away. And if
your church you think would want to be involved, you
can also find out more about how to get your
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church to be involved on a special Sunday at IFCJ
dot org. That's if CJ dot org. I've also one
other point I want to make on this is I've
seen a lot of people saying that this is like
consequence culture, that's like some of new things, It's like
happen in the last twenty four hours. I don't believe
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that that is what happened to Jimmy Kimmel. I believe
that it is actually as simple as they were losing
millions of dollars on a show that no one was watching,
and they saw an opportunity to get out. If he
was making the money, he would still be in the
ar right now, even after what he said about Charlie Kirk,
because he's been able to say things like that for
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a very long time. A great example is just rewind
to when he said it COVID. If you hadn't gotten
the vaccine and show up at a crowded hospital, you
deserve not to get treatment, you deserve to die. And
he didn't get fired then, So this is not a consequence.
I don't believe that ABC News here is doing the
right thing. This was a financial decision. I'm also not
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in favor of limiting free speech, okay, but if you
cheer and mock a violent assassination of someone like Charlie Kirk,
should there be a consequence for that? If you're employed
by a private company like ABC and Disney, even as
woke in liberal and radical as they are, you would
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hope there'd be a consequence. I do not believe ABC
News did this as a consequence for him. It was
a business decision. They had lost a bunch of affiliates
from two different affiliate groups, and they said, well, now
this is beyond unsustainable, so I will not give ABC
News credit. By the way, they still air The View.
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Let's also be clear about that. Now, there's been a
lot that has been said in the last twenty four
to forty eight hours about the FCC and the fact
the SCC should be looking into these shows like The View.
I want to caution you on that, and I want
to make it very clear why I want to caution
you on that. Okay, I know that there are ebbs
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and flows in politics. Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan,
then he gave us then we got Bush, and then
we got Bill Clinton, and then we got Bush, then
we got Barack Obama and then we got Trump, and
then we got Joe Biden. Kamala Harris. I am a
history of the presidency and the history of politics, guy,
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and I can promise you Democrats in my lifetime will
be back in power multiple times. And if we start
using the sec to go after our political opponents, who
by the way, are dying on their own on the
air because the audience is disappearing, because the American people
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are starting to reject this woke, radical ideology of the left.
If we start advocating for people to get fired, then
when they're in power, they are going to come after
us tenfold. They already did it. By the way, the
last time they had conservatives like myself that were canceled
on social media, they had kick Donald Trump off of
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social media platforms, all of them where he had to
make his own. We saw the government conspiring with private
sector to silence and censor into throttle conservatives. We do
not want to play that game. We do not want
to play that game. I'm actually don't think they should
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have fired him a long time ago. I like knowing
that their radical leftists out there that are alienating a
lot of America and bringing them to the conservative side
of things. I actually like that there is Ilama Omars
out there and the aocs because I actually think that
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people are just realizing how crazy the left has become
and how hateful they are. Jimmy Kimmel wasn't funny. He
was mean spirited man like. I think he did more
harm on TV than good for the Democrats that he
had on his show. I think it destroyed late night television.
And there's just a certain point of being like those people.
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I don't want to be associated with this. People are
sick and that's what he'd I think, become to represent.
So I actually liked him on the air. And look, yes,
he quote got fired. Okay, he got fired because of
what he said about about Charlie. No, he got fired
because his ratings sucked and they looked for an opportunity
to get rid of him, and this was the one
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they could do it on. And I'll give you this
scenario on this so that people understand it. Several years ago,
Democrats pushed hard to get rid of conservative talk radio.
They said it was unfair that there were so many
conservatives on talk radio and there weren't enough liberals, and
they were talking about equal time like they wanted it. Basically,
if you had three hours of Limbaugh or Levin or Ferguson,
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that you had to have three hours of counterprogramming of
a left a lefty. That's what they were. That was
their argument. They wanted to shut down conservative talk stations.
Now luckily it didn't happen. I believe now that's exactly
what they would do if they got power. If we
start abusing the power at the FCC to start silencing
people that we disagree with, there will be precedent and
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there will be hell to pay, and you will watch
the number of news talk stations disappear overnight, or they
will start mandating that you put on the liberals to
counter the conservative programming, and that also would kill conservative
talk radio. You don't weaponize the SEC. It is supposed
to be non partisan. It is supposed to be non political.
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And that is the point that everybody needs to just
keep their eye on the ball here and understand that
this is a terrible move by us if we want
to weaponize our government to go after them, because they'll
do it right back to us. And there's an argument
you'll go, well, they already did it to us, So
it's fair game. You cannot get this back in the
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box if you use it to start getting people fired,
because and they will use it ten times harder on
us than we ever could have imagined before. That's how
extreme they are, So don't give them the opportunity. I
don't believe this is abuse of the airwaves, as some
have tried to describe it. I don't believe that. I
want to be clear. I think this was just a
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scumbag whose ratings were down forty three percent. Long before
Charlie kirk Lie happened. You had only one hundred and
twenty nine thousand viewers, and the coveted Demo and Jimmy
Kimmel's ratings have been in the toilet for years, and
finally it got to the point where they just said,
we went out and they and he gave them a reason,
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and Disney said, yay, we're going to save a bunch
of money. At the beginning of the year. At the
beginning of the year, Kimmel had one point nine five
million total viewers. By the end of August, two weeks
before his long overdue suspension, all right, the number had
plummeted to just one point one million viewers. How did
he lose nine hundred and forty thousand viewers in the
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first half of the year because he'd become so mean
spirited and hateful towards Donald Trump in his monologues that
they basically conservatives and even moderates like, I'm done with you,
like you've gone crazy, right, you've gone nuts. You're nowhere
close to being funny where you were The post, by
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the way, and your post pointed out those rating slide
is down forty three percent from January, that is at
one point nine to five million. His August household rating
was a zero point three to five. It marked the
weakest showing of the year, and that what would be
most concerning the ABC Disney is if the corporation driven
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by profit, decided to stay with hate right, because we
were seeing the collapse of Kimmel's viewers. The eighteen to
forty nine age demo, which sets the advertising rates, the
number was at two hundred and twelve thousand and January.
By August that number had dropped to one hundred and
twenty nine thousand, and so Stephen Colbert, by the way,
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he was, you know, they cancel the show. He's still
in the air, but he's gonna be It's at the
end of the year. It's gone. He was some said
fired by CBS. The show was just canceled. It lost
around fifty million dollars a year. It currently attracts, by
the way more viewers at two point five to seven
million total viewers and two hundred and eighty one thousand
and the demo that is coveted for advertisers. So just
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to put it in perspective, Jimmy Kimmel was way I
mean one hundred and twenty nine thousand and the key
demo compared to two eighty one for Stephen Colbert, and
Colbert was losing them money. The Late Night is done
with because they were so hateful for so long that
the that half of America will never watch them, and
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the other half of America has a lot of other
options to watch, streaming shows, on demand shows. The list
goes on and on and so the audience is smaller.
There's more people that spend time on social media than
ever before because of the phone that's in her hand,
so grabbing viewers is extremely hard. He took them for granted.
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He hated on too many people for far too long.
And that's where you get yourself in the situation that
he's in right now. So I don't feel sorry for him,
But I'm also not giving praise to ABC News like
they quote did the right thing. I'm not buying that
at all. And the rich narcissists, they're all getting together
right now. John Stuart, Stephen Colbert make Jimmy Kimmel's suspension
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all about Stuart, by the way, and Colbert, they're all
like woe as me?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
If you're looking for an oasis away from the left
bitter and divisive politicalization of Charlie Kirk's brutal murder, former
comedian John Stuart and Stephen Colbert were not the place
to go. John Nolte's saying this and Breitbart both once
again bus abused their late night purchase to make the
long overdue suspensions of Jimmy Kimmel all about them. Stuart was,
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so you go to make it all about John Stewart.
He rushed into the studio on Thursday, even though he
normally only works Mondays. John Stewart returned the Daily Show
with a government approved program and referred to President Donald
Trump as a great father and dear leader. He joked
about Trump's recent visit to the UK and played a
clip of a reporter's question about Kimmel and whether free
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speech was under attack in America. How dare you, sir?
How dare you sir? Stuart yelled, what outfit are you with? Sir?
The Antifa Harold Tribune. When the audience, Booter expressed this
may Stewart, in a panic, tried to shush them. A
group of correspondents delivered a message in unison and showered
the president with over the top praise as though they
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lived in a dictatorship. Naturally, these soon to be well gone.
Stephen Colbert did the same thing, saying, quote, tonight, we
are all Jimmy Kimmel. That's when he said the start
of his monologue before decrying the suspension is quote blatant censorship.
With an autocrat, you cannot give thee an inch, he said.
If ABC thinks this is going to satisfy the regime, again,
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this is how you have people trying to kill the
president and people trying to kill Charlie Kirk because of
this type of rhetoric. When you have an autocrat, you
cannot give an inch. If ABC thinks this is going
to satisfy the regime. They are woefully naive and clearly
they've never read the children's book If you give a
Mouse a Kimmel and did Jimmy. Let me just say,
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I stand with you and your staff one hundred percent.
Both of them, by the way, are lying with a
claim that the FCC had something to do with Kimmel's suspension,
when it was the affiliates who on the local stations
that said we're not airing the show anymore. And Kimmel's
ratings were in the basement in which he lives. When
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Jimmy Kimmel said that Charlie Kirk's accused of sassion was MAGA,
that was a clear lie. It was a violation of
public interest right and the public interest clause in my opinion.
But again, that is not why they fired him. They
fired him because it was insensitive. They fired him because
his ratings were in the tank. They fired him because
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the money was that the show was unsustainable financially. That
is what it boils down to. And anyone else saying
anything else on one side or the other outside of that,
you're just wrong. You're just wrong. And I go back
to what I played for you earlier with that x
Panier chief. She said it clearly, this is a business decision.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Outside of the settlement, there are other actions taken to
ensure there would be regulatory approval. I think about rollbacks
of DEI policies. I think about some things like the
cancelation of Steve Colbert's show. You know that was never
explicitly stated as being part of getting regulatory approval, but
it's something that I think a lot of people assumed.
Do you think that they made the right choices to
(27:49):
ensure that they got the regulatory approval.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm not going to tie any of that to regulatory approval.
I can tell you that we had been looking at
late Night. It was financially not viable. It had been
that way for a long time. We had made a
decision months prior to the announcement that we were not
going to be going forward to that show. I love Stephen,
he does a great job, but we really needed to
be in a financially viable business and you saw we
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did that with James Corden as well. And in terms
of DEI, I think the reasons why DEI exists matter
and will always matter, and we need to continue to
fight for those issues, but I think the way in
which DEI has been executed has often led to more
problems than it solved. So any of the changes that
were made or continue to be made, but under us,
(28:34):
I think we were trying to create an environment that
would address the issues in a different way.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That is the narrative that they don't want you to know.
CNN Brian Skelter on the cancelation of Cobert the Late
Show another form of he said capitulation by CBS to Trump.
There's no indication that that is true. That's another lie
put out there by Brian Skelter on cancelation of Colbert.
(28:58):
And now they're doing the same exact lie, the same
exact lie when it comes to why Kimmel's gone. Kimmel's
gone because they were losing too much money, and Kimmel's
gone because the show sucked. Don't forget Share this podcast
please with your family and your friends whereover they are,
(29:20):
and I will see you back here tomorrow
All right, let's start with the issue that the media
has decided to go all in on, and they're claiming
that this is what dictators and tyrants do. They're claiming
that Donald Trump has gotten late night comedians fired Stephen
Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel, and they're saying, like, who's going
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to be next, And this is what a dictator and
a tyrant does. That is a lie, and we're going
to talk about that lie. So you understand it. When
Stephen Colbert was his show was canceled, all right, And
it's a different way than being fired. It was a
canceling of the show for one reason. It was the
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canceling of the show because it wasn't making money and
apparently it was losing listen carefully like forty million dollars
a year. That is a lot of money. There was
not pressure from the President the United States of America
for Stephen Colbert's show to be canceled. There have been
a lot in the media that are now rewriting history
(01:07):
as we speak, and they're saying that in fact, the
people that are in charge of the network have now
explicitly said that CBS was not threatened or pushed to
do what I just said, like that didn't happen. And
so if you look at the facts, it was a
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money issue. The show costs way too much money to produce,
and the ratings weren't there. Now, when Stephen Colbert was
let go, I said this on CNN at the time,
and I made it very clear, and I said, what
you guys are not understanding is this is not canceling
of an individual because of what he said. In fact,
(01:50):
I believe that CBS would love to keep Colbert on
attacking conservatives as long as they could. In fact, they
did it to the point where they were upside down
losing money on this show and there was no way out.
And so they had made the decision. They said months
earlier now in interviews CBS executives, months earlier, they decided
not to move forward with the show, not to renew
(02:11):
the show. So when you look at this and you
look at Colbert, it's a lie to say that Stephen
Colbert was canceled because of Donald Trump. In fact, let
me just let you hear from the ex Paramount chief
who is insisting that Colbert's cancelation had nothing to do
(02:34):
was seeking the Trump administration's approval for what is being
described as a mega merger. So this is again the
grand conspiracy theory of the left. Listen to her tell
the story in her own words.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Outside of the settlement, there are other actions taken to
ensure there would be regulatory approval. I think about rollbacks
of DEI policies. I think about some things like the
cancelation of Steve Colbert's show. You know that was never
explicitly stated as being part of getting regulatory approval, but
it's something that I think a lot of people assumed.
Do you think that they made the right choices to
(03:10):
ensure that they got the regulatory approval.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm not going to tie any of that to regulatory approval.
I can tell you that we had been looking at
late night. It was financially not viable. It had been
that way for a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We paused. Listen to what she just said. Her words
right there was that I can and you know what, screw,
I'm going to back it up. I'm going to back
it up so that you can hear her words again.
It wasn't viable, she said, and it hadn't been viable
for a long time, meaning they let it go way
past the expiration date because they loved the propaganda of
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their network attacking conservatives night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It was financially not viable. It had been that way
for a long time. We had made a decision months
prior to the announcement that we were not going to
be going forward with that show. I love Stephen, he
does a great job, but we really needed to be
in a financially viable business and you saw we did
that with James Corden as well. And in terms of DEI,
I think the reasons why DEI exists matter and will
(04:12):
always matter, and we need to continue to fight for
those issues. But I think the way in which DEI
has been executed has often led to more problems than
it solved. So any of the changes that were made
or continue to be made, but under us, I think
we were trying to create an environment that would address
the issues in a different way.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So translation, this is all PCBs. I'm going to go
back and I'm going to play for you what I
said on Stephen on Stephen Colbert being canceled. Now, this
was the night after Stephen Colbert was canceled. I said
this on Abby's show on CNN, And this goes to
the core of why his show was canceled because he
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lost his audience.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
They're going to get effected by some of this too,
I would say s Letterman A Leno did a much
better job of having on George Bush and then having
on Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They actually did a better job.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It was a different time, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
My point is if you stop doing it, and there
are people like me that just we don't even care.
I don't even know when the show's on. That's how
irrelevant it is. Because once he hate Once it was
so clear how much sustain he had for conservatives, and
it wasn't funnymore, you're gonna lose your show.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, listen, I really yeah, I honestly I'm with
Cherrey on this one. I mean, I think you can.
I think it's a little speculative that Elizabeth Warren of
it all, but there's no question that the direction of
linear television is going in a certain place. So that
is the by far, probably one of the bigger factors.
Can I give you a quick on yeh.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I just love there how they will not accept
the truth Colbert had made your disdain for conservatives and
it wasn't funny anymore, and he lost his audience, and
that's what led to the cancelation. The ex paramount chief
insisting Colbert's cancelation had nothing to do with seeking Trump approval.
It was about the show was unsustainable. So now you
(06:04):
fast forward to right now and they're all saying that,
you know, Stephen Colbert, and now you've got Jimmy Kimmel,
this is all about a dictator. All right, Let's look
at what Kimmel said. Kimmel said, quote, we hit some
new lows over the weekend with a maga gang desperately
(06:25):
trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
anything other than one of them. Okay, that's a lie.
We know he wasn't a conservative. We know he's a liberal.
We know he hated Charlie Kirk. We know that he
wanted to take out Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk was
saying mean things he believed about his lover and he
couldn't take the hate anymore, and so he said I'm
going to kill him. That's his own words and his
(06:45):
own text messages. So he's lying to you, and he
knows that he's lying to you. When he says this,
he's trying to say, this is somehow maga kid. Everybody knows,
the reason why I killed Charlie kirkis because he hated
the maga kid. He hated him, He hated him. Back
to the exact quote, Charlie Kirk is anything other than
than one of them, and doing everything they can to
(07:07):
score political points from it. That's also not just a lie,
it's sick. And by the way, look at the time frame.
By the time Kimmel did this monologue, it was already
extremely clear from the governor, local law enforcement, and our
federal government law enforcement that Charlie Kirk accused assassin and
by the way, in his own words, was a leftist
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in a relationship with a furry transsexual. That's not a
maga kid, okay. And knowing this, Kimmel still told tens
of thousands of people who still watched the show that
the alleged sassion was in fact magas. So it's his fault,
Donald Trump's fault, It's conservative's fault that Charlie Kirk was killed,
(07:51):
which doesn't make any sense logically, but hey, who cares
about facts, right, Let's not even care about facts at all?
The second reason why he was fired is because already
the show was losing money. And so you had two
of the country's biggest affiliates. And again, this is not
cancel culture. This is this is Nextstar in Sinclair Media
(08:14):
who had had enough. Both of those networks that are
affiliates told Disney and ABC that they were done during
airing a late night show that is attacking literally their audience,
and it's a show that is only pleasing to LA
and New York viewers and maybe Boston and some other
places like that. But in normal America, no one is
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watching Jimmy Kimmel anymore for the reasons that I just stated.
And he had lost his audience in the core demographic
that you need. With an audience, okay, in a core
demographic that you need, it is a the younger generation,
and that's how you buy ads. He was down to
like one hundred and twenty something thousand. He was over
(08:59):
a million a decade ago. This was a massive drop
in audience size. And so when you have Nextstar in
Saint Clair, who are about to make him even smaller,
both of them telling were done with the show because
we're done with him attacking Americans never forget if this
was really about cancel culture. Is that is the left
trying to claim that this is like a dictator and tyrant,
(09:20):
like getting people fired in media. Jimmy Kimmel would have
been fired, okay when he said that people that went
to a hospital and if it's overcrowded, they hadn't gotten
the COVID vaccine deserved to die and not get care.
He did not get canceled, and he said that why
because I believe ABC and Disney love this guy. They
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held on to him while he was losing money for
a very long time. Yes, they were then finally at
the point where they were looking for an out Stephen
Colbert was not fired for censorship. It was because the
show sucked. He wasn't funny anymore. He hated half American
alien of them, and there wasn't enough audience left to
cover that. That is a very risky bet now, per
(10:04):
the Hollywood Reporter, Disney asked Kimmel to address the lie
he told in a way that quote would take down
the temperature what he planned to do, by the way
we were being told on Wednesday night. Instead, the report says,
was going to fan the flames with the Maga fan base.
Someone who worked on the show basically confirmed this while
claiming to deny it. No, no, The source said Jimmy
(10:25):
was not planning of making it worse, but he also
wasn't cow telling to Maga. Okay, so now we know
now by the time all this had happened, so you
understand the timeline, sixty six big affiliates of the roughly
two hundred affiliate stations had said they would not carry
the episode, and that's when ABC announced it was suspending
(10:47):
the program. And that's when the left and the crazy
media started to blame the FCC. When the Trump administration
had allowed ABC Disney to brazenly violate the public interest
clause in the broadcast for five years, four years in
the Trump's first term and nearly a year into Trump's
second term. That is how you could argue this right.
(11:08):
And the arrogant Jimmy Kimmel is the one who got
him suspended. And it wasn't for what he said the
other night. It was for alienating and attacking over half
the country every chance he could. And then when he
had his screw up, he refused to do the decent
and honorable thing, and that's when affiliate said, we're done, right,
(11:30):
we are done until Jimmy Kimmel agrees to retract his
lie and tell the truth. We're done now. I don't
know if Kima will ever apologize, because he's got a
money where he can just say, here's a middle finger.
I don't care, but I do think it's interesting how
the media is trying to protect him. All the other
late night hosts, by the way, they're a narcissists, trying
to make it about themselves too in this big kumbah
(11:51):
Yah United moments, And I'll read you some of that
in a moment so that you can hear what they're saying,
because it is pretty disgusting. But Jimmy Fallon, responding to
Hanimmel situation, said quote, I know Jimmy Kimmel and he's
a decent, funny and loving guy. That's not true. If
he was, he wouldn't have said that people deserve to
die if they didn't get the COVID vaccine. Like I'm
(12:13):
going to call bs there. And the way that they
did their monologue was like this me too type movement. Right,
we'll stand with you, We'll stand with you, And it's
pretty pathetic, but also I would say not surprising, because
this is what the Democratic Party has become. They have
become a group of radical extremists, and a small group
(12:34):
of them are just i would say, straight domestic terrorists,
and this is what they believe. All right, I want
to take a moment and I want to talk to
you real quick about what you can do to help
the people in Israel. It was nearly two years ago
that the terrorists murdered more than twelve hundred innocent Israelis
and they took two hundred and fifty hostages. Today it
(12:57):
seems as if the cries of the dead and dying
have been drowned out by the shouts of anti Semitism
and just pure hatred, not just in America but around
the world. And the most brutal attack on Jewish people happened.
It happened since the Holocausts, and now it's like they're
trying to act like it never happened. Now, this is
where it is important for us to stand with the
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people in Israel. It's a movement of love and support
for the people of Israel, and this is where I
want you to get involved. It is called Flags of Fellowship.
It's being organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
On October fifth, you can stand with Israel and the
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victims proudly. Just a few weeks away, millions across America
will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity
with the victims of October the seventh, twenty twenty three,
and stand with their grieving families. You can be a
part of this movement as well. And that's what I
(14:00):
love about what IFCJ does. They're making sure that the
world knows there there are lots of people of faith
in this country and friends and advocates for Israel. They're
going to stand with them. You can get more information
about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement,
including your church. There are going to be countless churches
(14:20):
around the country they're going to plant flags as well.
So all you have to do to get involved with
Flags of Fellowship movement is go to if CJ dot org.
That's if CJ dot org stand with Israel on October
the fifth. It's just a few weeks away. And if
your church you think would want to be involved, you
can also find out more about how to get your
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church to be involved on a special Sunday at IFCJ
dot org. That's if CJ dot org. I've also one
other point I want to make on this is I've
seen a lot of people saying that this is like
consequence culture, that's like some of new things, It's like
happen in the last twenty four hours. I don't believe
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that that is what happened to Jimmy Kimmel. I believe
that it is actually as simple as they were losing
millions of dollars on a show that no one was watching,
and they saw an opportunity to get out. If he
was making the money, he would still be in the
ar right now, even after what he said about Charlie Kirk,
because he's been able to say things like that for
(15:22):
a very long time. A great example is just rewind
to when he said it COVID. If you hadn't gotten
the vaccine and show up at a crowded hospital, you
deserve not to get treatment, you deserve to die. And
he didn't get fired then, So this is not a consequence.
I don't believe that ABC News here is doing the
right thing. This was a financial decision. I'm also not
(15:48):
in favor of limiting free speech, okay, but if you
cheer and mock a violent assassination of someone like Charlie Kirk,
should there be a consequence for that? If you're employed
by a private company like ABC and Disney, even as
woke in liberal and radical as they are, you would
(16:09):
hope there'd be a consequence. I do not believe ABC
News did this as a consequence for him. It was
a business decision. They had lost a bunch of affiliates
from two different affiliate groups, and they said, well, now
this is beyond unsustainable, so I will not give ABC
News credit. By the way, they still air The View.
(16:31):
Let's also be clear about that. Now, there's been a
lot that has been said in the last twenty four
to forty eight hours about the FCC and the fact
the SCC should be looking into these shows like The View.
I want to caution you on that, and I want
to make it very clear why I want to caution
you on that. Okay, I know that there are ebbs
(16:53):
and flows in politics. Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan,
then he gave us then we got Bush, and then
we got Bill Clinton, and then we got Bush, then
we got Barack Obama and then we got Trump, and
then we got Joe Biden. Kamala Harris. I am a
history of the presidency and the history of politics, guy,
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and I can promise you Democrats in my lifetime will
be back in power multiple times. And if we start
using the sec to go after our political opponents, who
by the way, are dying on their own on the
air because the audience is disappearing, because the American people
(17:34):
are starting to reject this woke, radical ideology of the left.
If we start advocating for people to get fired, then
when they're in power, they are going to come after
us tenfold. They already did it. By the way, the
last time they had conservatives like myself that were canceled
on social media, they had kick Donald Trump off of
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social media platforms, all of them where he had to
make his own. We saw the government conspiring with private
sector to silence and censor into throttle conservatives. We do
not want to play that game. We do not want
to play that game. I'm actually don't think they should
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have fired him a long time ago. I like knowing
that their radical leftists out there that are alienating a
lot of America and bringing them to the conservative side
of things. I actually like that there is Ilama Omars
out there and the aocs because I actually think that
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people are just realizing how crazy the left has become
and how hateful they are. Jimmy Kimmel wasn't funny. He
was mean spirited man like. I think he did more
harm on TV than good for the Democrats that he
had on his show. I think it destroyed late night television.
And there's just a certain point of being like those people.
(18:57):
I don't want to be associated with this. People are
sick and that's what he'd I think, become to represent.
So I actually liked him on the air. And look, yes,
he quote got fired. Okay, he got fired because of
what he said about about Charlie. No, he got fired
because his ratings sucked and they looked for an opportunity
to get rid of him, and this was the one
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they could do it on. And I'll give you this
scenario on this so that people understand it. Several years ago,
Democrats pushed hard to get rid of conservative talk radio.
They said it was unfair that there were so many
conservatives on talk radio and there weren't enough liberals, and
they were talking about equal time like they wanted it. Basically,
if you had three hours of Limbaugh or Levin or Ferguson,
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that you had to have three hours of counterprogramming of
a left a lefty. That's what they were. That was
their argument. They wanted to shut down conservative talk stations.
Now luckily it didn't happen. I believe now that's exactly
what they would do if they got power. If we
start abusing the power at the FCC to start silencing
people that we disagree with, there will be precedent and
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there will be hell to pay, and you will watch
the number of news talk stations disappear overnight, or they
will start mandating that you put on the liberals to
counter the conservative programming, and that also would kill conservative
talk radio. You don't weaponize the SEC. It is supposed
to be non partisan. It is supposed to be non political.
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And that is the point that everybody needs to just
keep their eye on the ball here and understand that
this is a terrible move by us if we want
to weaponize our government to go after them, because they'll
do it right back to us. And there's an argument
you'll go, well, they already did it to us, So
it's fair game. You cannot get this back in the
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box if you use it to start getting people fired,
because and they will use it ten times harder on
us than we ever could have imagined before. That's how
extreme they are, So don't give them the opportunity. I
don't believe this is abuse of the airwaves, as some
have tried to describe it. I don't believe that. I
want to be clear. I think this was just a
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scumbag whose ratings were down forty three percent. Long before
Charlie kirk Lie happened. You had only one hundred and
twenty nine thousand viewers, and the coveted Demo and Jimmy
Kimmel's ratings have been in the toilet for years, and
finally it got to the point where they just said,
we went out and they and he gave them a reason,
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and Disney said, yay, we're going to save a bunch
of money. At the beginning of the year. At the
beginning of the year, Kimmel had one point nine five
million total viewers. By the end of August, two weeks
before his long overdue suspension, all right, the number had
plummeted to just one point one million viewers. How did
he lose nine hundred and forty thousand viewers in the
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first half of the year because he'd become so mean
spirited and hateful towards Donald Trump in his monologues that
they basically conservatives and even moderates like, I'm done with you,
like you've gone crazy, right, you've gone nuts. You're nowhere
close to being funny where you were The post, by
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the way, and your post pointed out those rating slide
is down forty three percent from January, that is at
one point nine to five million. His August household rating
was a zero point three to five. It marked the
weakest showing of the year, and that what would be
most concerning the ABC Disney is if the corporation driven
(22:38):
by profit, decided to stay with hate right, because we
were seeing the collapse of Kimmel's viewers. The eighteen to
forty nine age demo, which sets the advertising rates, the
number was at two hundred and twelve thousand and January.
By August that number had dropped to one hundred and
twenty nine thousand, and so Stephen Colbert, by the way,
(23:02):
he was, you know, they cancel the show. He's still
in the air, but he's gonna be It's at the
end of the year. It's gone. He was some said
fired by CBS. The show was just canceled. It lost
around fifty million dollars a year. It currently attracts, by
the way more viewers at two point five to seven
million total viewers and two hundred and eighty one thousand
and the demo that is coveted for advertisers. So just
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to put it in perspective, Jimmy Kimmel was way I
mean one hundred and twenty nine thousand and the key
demo compared to two eighty one for Stephen Colbert, and
Colbert was losing them money. The Late Night is done
with because they were so hateful for so long that
the that half of America will never watch them, and
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the other half of America has a lot of other
options to watch, streaming shows, on demand shows. The list
goes on and on and so the audience is smaller.
There's more people that spend time on social media than
ever before because of the phone that's in her hand,
so grabbing viewers is extremely hard. He took them for granted.
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He hated on too many people for far too long.
And that's where you get yourself in the situation that
he's in right now. So I don't feel sorry for him,
But I'm also not giving praise to ABC News like
they quote did the right thing. I'm not buying that
at all. And the rich narcissists, they're all getting together
right now. John Stuart, Stephen Colbert make Jimmy Kimmel's suspension
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all about Stuart, by the way, and Colbert, they're all
like woe as me?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
If you're looking for an oasis away from the left
bitter and divisive politicalization of Charlie Kirk's brutal murder, former
comedian John Stuart and Stephen Colbert were not the place
to go. John Nolte's saying this and Breitbart both once
again bus abused their late night purchase to make the
long overdue suspensions of Jimmy Kimmel all about them. Stuart was,
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so you go to make it all about John Stewart.
He rushed into the studio on Thursday, even though he
normally only works Mondays. John Stewart returned the Daily Show
with a government approved program and referred to President Donald
Trump as a great father and dear leader. He joked
about Trump's recent visit to the UK and played a
clip of a reporter's question about Kimmel and whether free
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speech was under attack in America. How dare you, sir?
How dare you sir? Stuart yelled, what outfit are you with? Sir?
The Antifa Harold Tribune. When the audience, Booter expressed this
may Stewart, in a panic, tried to shush them. A
group of correspondents delivered a message in unison and showered
the president with over the top praise as though they
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lived in a dictatorship. Naturally, these soon to be well gone.
Stephen Colbert did the same thing, saying, quote, tonight, we
are all Jimmy Kimmel. That's when he said the start
of his monologue before decrying the suspension is quote blatant censorship.
With an autocrat, you cannot give thee an inch, he said.
If ABC thinks this is going to satisfy the regime, again,
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this is how you have people trying to kill the
president and people trying to kill Charlie Kirk because of
this type of rhetoric. When you have an autocrat, you
cannot give an inch. If ABC thinks this is going
to satisfy the regime. They are woefully naive and clearly
they've never read the children's book If you give a
Mouse a Kimmel and did Jimmy. Let me just say,
(26:19):
I stand with you and your staff one hundred percent.
Both of them, by the way, are lying with a
claim that the FCC had something to do with Kimmel's suspension,
when it was the affiliates who on the local stations
that said we're not airing the show anymore. And Kimmel's
ratings were in the basement in which he lives. When
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Jimmy Kimmel said that Charlie Kirk's accused of sassion was MAGA,
that was a clear lie. It was a violation of
public interest right and the public interest clause in my opinion.
But again, that is not why they fired him. They
fired him because it was insensitive. They fired him because
his ratings were in the tank. They fired him because
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the money was that the show was unsustainable financially. That
is what it boils down to. And anyone else saying
anything else on one side or the other outside of that,
you're just wrong. You're just wrong. And I go back
to what I played for you earlier with that x
Panier chief. She said it clearly, this is a business decision.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Outside of the settlement, there are other actions taken to
ensure there would be regulatory approval. I think about rollbacks
of DEI policies. I think about some things like the
cancelation of Steve Colbert's show. You know that was never
explicitly stated as being part of getting regulatory approval, but
it's something that I think a lot of people assumed.
Do you think that they made the right choices to
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ensure that they got the regulatory approval.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm not going to tie any of that to regulatory approval.
I can tell you that we had been looking at
late Night. It was financially not viable. It had been
that way for a long time. We had made a
decision months prior to the announcement that we were not
going to be going forward to that show. I love Stephen,
he does a great job, but we really needed to
be in a financially viable business and you saw we
(28:13):
did that with James Corden as well. And in terms
of DEI, I think the reasons why DEI exists matter
and will always matter, and we need to continue to
fight for those issues, but I think the way in
which DEI has been executed has often led to more
problems than it solved. So any of the changes that
were made or continue to be made, but under us,
(28:34):
I think we were trying to create an environment that
would address the issues in a different way.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That is the narrative that they don't want you to know.
CNN Brian Skelter on the cancelation of Cobert the Late
Show another form of he said capitulation by CBS to Trump.
There's no indication that that is true. That's another lie
put out there by Brian Skelter on cancelation of Colbert.
(28:58):
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exact lie when it comes to why Kimmel's gone. Kimmel's
gone because they were losing too much money, and Kimmel's
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