November 5, 2025 • 46 mins
🗳️ U.S. Election Analysis
The hosts express deep concern and disappointment over recent election results in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York City, which they characterize as a “disaster” for Republicans and conservatives.
Key Points:
- Virginia: Republicans suffered major losses, including the defeat of Winsome Sears and Jason Miyares. The hosts cite massive Democrat spending and controversial candidates like J. Jones, who allegedly made violent remarks.
- New Jersey: Jack Ciattarelli lost to Mikie Sherrill by a wide margin, surprising the hosts who expected a stronger Republican showing.
- New York City: The election of Zohran Mamdani (referred to as a “communist jihadist” by Cruz) is described as alarming. Cruz accuses Mamdani of supporting Hamas and promoting radical ideologies.
- California Proposition 50: Passed to redistrict and create five new Democrat seats, which Cruz claims is a power grab and anti-democratic.
The tone is highly critical of Democratic strategies, voter behavior, and what the hosts see as a growing radicalism within the party.
🇮🇱 Ben Ferguson’s Visit to Israel
Ben Ferguson shares emotional and spiritual experiences from his first trip to Israel, including:
Highlights:
- Spiritual Pilgrimage: Visits to the Sea of Galilee, the Whaling Wall, and the tomb believed to be where Jesus was buried and resurrected.
- War Zone Encounters:
- Met families of children killed by Hezbollah rockets while playing soccer.
- Visited northern Israel near the Lebanon border, witnessing destruction and meeting displaced farmers.
- Described the “Pager Attack” — a covert Israeli operation targeting Hezbollah leadership using explosive-laden pagers.
- Met with Holocaust survivors and families of hostages taken during the October 7 Hamas attack.
- Psychological Warfare: Ferguson recounts stories of hostages being mentally tortured, lied to, and starved.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome. It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
with you. It is election night in America. I am
in Israel right now. It's about six fourteen in the
morning in Israel. I don't even know what time it
is in Washington, d C. Right now. That's how jetlagged
I am. And we are doing a joint podcast today
with Verdict with Ted Cruz, my show, the Ben Ferguson
(00:21):
podcasts as well, to cover everything going on with the
election and also some incredible moments in Israel. Center. It
is official New York is turning red, communist red. The
big red Apple is now a communist red apple. Let's
start with that.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, listen, it is eleven to fourteen pm in Washington,
D C. And then I got to say tonight was
a terrible night for Republicans. It was a terrible night
for conservatives, and it was a terrible night for America.
The damage in New York City, the damage in Virginia,
the damage in New Jersey, the damage in California has
(01:03):
been enormous. We're going to break down this really disappointing
and dangerous electoral result that happened tonight. We're also going
to talk about the fact that Ben is on the
ground in Israel. What is he seeing, who is he
meeting with? What is the dynamic. Israel has just won
a war. They have just defeated Iran in a twelve
(01:24):
day war. They are still battling Hamas. There's an historic
peace steal that President Trump has negotiated, but Hamas is
resisting and violating the peace steal. We're going to talk
about what Ben seeing on the ground, all of that
on Today's Verdict.
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make a difference with every call you make. So centater,
as I sit here right now and many of you
are going to get to watch this on YouTube, as
we're also putting this up on YouTube this episode, I
am in Israel. This is my first time. So I've
had five trips planned to come to Israel. The first
four got canceled, one from COVID, the other three because
(03:45):
of wars that'd broken out. This dates back all the
way to two thousand and four, thousand and five and
the first time I'm supposed to go to Israel, and
I cannot tell you you've been here. Just being able
to do simple things like going to the Whaling Wall,
staying here in Jerusalem have been a spiritual journey that
I would tell everyone listening to verdict right now it
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is safe to come to Israel right now. That is
the one thing that's very clear from the ceasefire. There
are lots of people coming back to see this incredible country.
But if you are a person of faith and you've
experienced this, coming to Israel connects so many dots. I
was at the Sea of Galilee yesterday and getting to
witness as historians and religious leaders were telling the stories
(04:28):
of the Bible, where it was the Beatitudes, where there
was walking on water, whether it was the fish that
continued to feed, seeing the miracles of Jesus before your
very eyes, overlooking this incredible country, while at the same time,
being moments away from where this war was taking place
and people are being killed was a somber but special moment.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So, Ben, have you been to Israel before? Is this
first trip?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
This is my pilgrimage, very first time ever?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, it is amazing. I've been a number of time
to Israel, and it is a breathtaking place. It is
a place all of history converges on. It is the
birthplace of Christianity, is the birthplace of Judaism in Israel
and Jerusalem. You walk down roads the city of David,
(05:18):
which is this underground archaeological excavation under Jerusalem. You walk
down the road from from the pool of Shiloh to
the old Temple where Jesus most certainly walked, and you
walk along it and there are platforms that a street
(05:38):
preacher and a itinerant preacher would stand and preach on,
and you stand. I've stood on those platforms, and it
takes your breath away that Jesus Christ almost certainly stood
on this particular piece of stone addressing the crowd of
the Israelites who were there in Jerusalem. The Sea of
(06:00):
Alle You look at you imagine Jesus walking up to Peter,
walking up to fishermen and saying, follow me and let
me make you fishers of men and not just fishermen.
And it is it's a beautiful place. It is a
profound place. So tell me when did you arrive and
what have you done on the ground at Israel.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So arrived on Monday after delayed flight missed missed a
flight because of actually the shutdown is what we're told
with And then we had a time out with with
with the with the air traffic controllers and also the
crew on the plane. So we sat on the tarmac
for about five hours in Houston and then they said
you got to got the plane. We've lost our crew
because of the rules. And this is a TSA And
(06:41):
it was at the very beginning of kind of the
break are part of a broader.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Group or like what what's the reason for going to Israel?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, so I was asked to come over from the
Israeli government and also came with the CEO of i
f c J, the International Fellowship of Christ Jews. Uh,
there is a a Christian leadership conference happening here as
well at the same time. Uh. That is uh, it
is one that's been postponed because of the war, and
so I was asked to speak at that. UH. This
(07:09):
is a conference where BB is speaking, where you have
the Mayor of Jerusalem is speaking, you have the US
Ambassador Mike Huckabee as well, and it is bringing Christians
together back to the to the Holy Land. But then
what also has happens. They've set up these incredible moments
and tours where I've been able to meet with with
with some of the victims of the war UH and
(07:30):
go and see UH where the war is taking placed.
So yesterday we actually went to the border UH with
Syria and with Lebanon and went literally to where we
could see Hesblah looking at us.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And was met with the parents of the kids who
were killed on the soccer field. Tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, So last night I have and I will try
not to get emotional, but it's hard not to. I
was asked to come and to meet with the families,
some of the families whose children twelve children that were
killed while playing soccer on a soccer field. It made
international news. We covered it on this show, and they
asked me if I would meet with the families and
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hear the family stories and I was there and the
parents were talking of this was one of the little
girls you can see who died and her mother was
the first one to speak. And the age of the
kids want to tell the story. They were all different ages.
They were very young to a seventeen year old if
I remember correctly. Some of it was through translation, but
(08:31):
you can kind of see the different ages here. Some
of them are obviously most were younger, but you can
see there someone's a little bit older and junior high.
You can see that's one of the oldest kids there,
and that was you know, it's it's incredible. But we
sat there and we were hearing their stories, these kids,
and at the very end, they said they'd like to
present me with things. I didn't know they were going
to do this, and I put the picture of on
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social media, but the mother of this young girl said
that they wanted to give me something. And I didn't
see the ball before they brought it out, but these
pictures on this ball, so people understand their stickers. They're handmade.
And they said they wanted to say thank you for
standing up for their kids and for telling their story
to the world, because they they want people to understand
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what it's like to live in Israel and what was
taken from them from by the way market.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
These were children that were doing nothing. They were they
were playing on a soccer field. There were being kids
and suddenly Hesbala rocket came over and killed them all.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and it was a the way that they described
it was they didn't care who they killed. There was
there was a lot of media spend that well, this
this soccer field maybe wasn't directly target Hesbla doesn't care
who they killed. They just want to kill Jews.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
One of the other and one of the points ben
that's important with both Hesbela and Hamas most of the
rockets they fire have no guidance systems, so they literally
just fire a rocket in the air towards is filled
with explosives, many times filled with anti personnel shrapnel, ball
bearings and nails and screws and things that would rip
(10:09):
human flesh apart, and they just fire them towards Israel
because they figure, you know what, they're Jews over there,
so let's just kill as many of them as we can,
and whether it kills little kids, normally, in the vast
majority of the times, military targets are not the targets.
It's just fire it towards Israel, and if we killed Jews,
we celebrate. And that, tragically is what happened at the
(10:31):
soccer field.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's exactly what happened. And not far from where that
soccer field attack happened, we went to an orchard. What's
one thing that you learn so much from being here,
but there is a lot of farming that has done
in Israel. Israel does an amazing job with water and
turning saltwater into fresh water. It is what is kept
this country alive and not dependent on others, especially in
(10:55):
war when people would shut off water to Israel. It's
the desert and what they've done is unbelievable. We talked
about that, learned about that, but we went to a
basically a kibbutz. It's a neighborhood. And in that neighborhood,
you know what they you know what the they.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
In northern Israel, southern Israel, where the where's the kobuts?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You went to the tip of Northern on the opposite
side of where the attack happened. The initial attack happened
in October.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
This okay, so right by the Golan border.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
With Lebedon and Hesbelah. So if you're looking at the map,
this would be in Syria hes Blah at the northern point.
And they started us there because they said they wanted
us to understand that the goal, by the way, for
folks from both sides, for folks.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
At home to understand. So Israel is a very small nation.
It's about the size of the state of New Jersey. Yeah,
where October seventh happened was in the southern part of Israel.
It's right by the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip is
along the Mediterranean in the southern part, and Hamas, which
is the terrorist major terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip,
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entered into southern Israel and murdered over twelve hundred Israelis,
raped women and little girls, took over two hundred Israelis hostage.
It was also one of the worst American terrorist attacks ever,
as we saw dozens of Americans murdered, dozens of Americans
taken hostage. Now northern Israel, which is up by Lebanon
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and Syria, what you have up there is Hesbela, hesbel
As a different terrorist organization. Both Hesbela and Hamas their
patron is Iran and Iran funds over ninety percent of
Hamas's budget, Iran funds over ninety percent of Hesbel's budget.
When October seventh first erupted, Israel quite rightly declared we
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are going to utterly destroy Hamas. There was an interesting
period that extended for weeks and then even a couple
of months where it wasn't clear if Hamas would be
or rather Hesbela would be drawn into this. Hamas was
the ressor on October seventh, and Hesbela had the opportunity
just to shut up and not engage, and then Hesbela
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pretty quick decided nope, we want to raise our hand,
we want to engage, and began just just firing rockets,
a massive barrage of rockets in northern Israel, thousands and
the kids.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I was told yesterday by the US government about sixty
percent of all the rockets on hand that Hesbla had
in their arsenal were shot during this war.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Repeat that. That's a powerful.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Statement, sixty percent. And as we had our briefing from
the Israeli government, we actually went to this neighborhood, this kibbutz,
and in this neighborhood their sin for being targeted by
Hesbla was that they that they farm pink Lady apples
that we eat in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And by the way, much of northern Israel was evacuated
because the rocket attacks were so intense that the Israelis
couldn't live there anymore, because you couldn't go into your
own home without risk of rock blowing it up.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And so the.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Amazing thing is Hesbela literally volunteered and said, hey, we
want to be part of this, and then the Israelis
carried out the Pager attack, which remains one of the
most extraordinary military and intelligence operations I think the world
has ever seen. Where I mean, I've joked, but this
is not a joke. If you wrote the Pager Attack
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as a script to a movie, nobody in Hollywood would
buy it. If you wrote it as a jacent Bourne movie,
they say, this is ridiculous. You're telling me. Israel creates
a shell company in Hong Kong, builds pass years in advance,
makes them heavy duty, kind of serious, hardcore pagers and
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in beds where the battery would be a tiny little explosive.
Then gets this shell company in Hong Kong to sell
the pagers to Hesbela, Like, how the hell do you
do that? I don't know how you sell pagers to Hesbela,
but the Masad does, Israel does sells them to Hesbela.
And then this remains the single most targeted military and
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intelligence attack I think in history, because it was Hesbela
leadership that decided, Okay, who is it that gets these pagers?
I'm going to give it to every crazy ass terrorist
we have in lemanon the people that I want to
be able to page and say, hey, would you go
blow up a bus, would you go blow up at
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a mall? Would you go murder children? Take this pager?
And then Israel in a simultaneous moment, detonated all the
pagers and took out every person that was injured, every
person that was killed, with very minor exceptions of someone
who was really close to a terrorist. They were personally
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selected by the leaders of Hesbela. Hesbela decided which terrorists died.
And by the way, within a day or two, there
was a second operation where Hesbela was using walkie talkies.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Those blow up and filtrated. Yeah, they blow those up
as well.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah. By the end of it, I think every Hesbela terrorists,
every Hamas terrorists, every Iran I r GC terrorists, like
every time a phone rang, they jumped. It was extraordinary
and it was a response to so what Hesbela literally
volunteered and said, we want to be decimated as bad
as as Hamas, and Israel said, well, happy to oblige.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You go back to this neighborhood. And as we went
into this neighborhood, which the people have a lot of
them have still not returned. Some of the farmers are
coming there to farm. But Hesbelon knew the houses that
they were blowing up in this neighborhood were farmers. They
knew that they were families. And what they did would
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to justify their attacks early on was when the people
had fled, the Israeli military would take back in to
the husband of the home to go get some of
their belongings before they would flee again. And they justify
if the military walking in the house is the reason
to blow the house up. And so I met with
a farmer who had three children the exact same age
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as my kids. Wow, and he was showing us his
neighborhood and he was talking about how I had to
come back to tend the fields because this is my home.
And I was literally under rocket barrage and would come
to work knowing that Hezbollah was targeting the houses. And
so finally after a few days that the homeowners said
to the military, don't go back into my house, because
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as soon as you go in there, they blow up
my home and everything is destroyed. We went into a home.
The books of the children were still there, the stove
was still there the way it was set. That morning,
the one of the homeowners offered me a piece of
a broken pot of their home and a burner of
the stove and said take it back, and a piece
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of their tile in their children's bathroom. I'll put it
on my desk for the rest of my life. But
to hear them talk about the brute of Hesbla, knowing
that you're blowing up a farmer's home who has never
bothered you in your entire life for sport. It was
just for sport at that point, it was even killing
a person pure They knew that they were, yeah, just
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pure sport and hatred, like we're going to blow up
your neighborhood because you are Jewish. We know you're not there,
we know you have fled, but we want you to
come back to destruction in ruins.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And so you've been in northern Israel. Have you been
in Tel Aviv? Have you been in Jerusalem? Where else
have you been been in?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So? Been in Tel Aviv as well, which is an
incredible city. I didn't realize how much it's like New
York City or a major It's a very modern sitate
life city, thriving, modern city, a lot of technology out
of out of there that is actually exported to the
rest of the world. It's incredible the minds that the
brilliant minds that are working in Tel Aviv. I'm staying
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in Jerusalem. I do want to say.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
One other thing is that where you are now is
Jerusalem at the King David Hotel.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, I'm in Jerusalem. I met not the King David.
I'm at the it starts with an A. I can't
remember the name. I'd have to look around the room
and find it. But it's right at the entrance of
the of the markets here, and it's a beautiful market
that they have built this city to try to revive
Jerusalem and make it even more for tourists. It's incredible.
The people he are so kind. But one other thing
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I want to mention about this trip so far is
I met with the mother of one of the hostages
that was taken that became unfortunately, she became famous. If
you remember the videos that came out, there is a
girl that's been separated from her boyfriend. She is in
between two terrasts on a motorcycle and she's reaching out
and screaming for her boyfriend who is being held with
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his arms and minds back by two terrasts and they're
separating them. And that video just went viral early on
in the moments after he was held underground for two
years without seeing sunlight and was starved, was returned. They
just re reunited. You may have seen that video of
them in the hospital finally getting to see each other
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again and hugging and falling backwards as they hug on
the hospital bed, and the mother was telling the story
of her son and the trauma, the way that they
were mentally tortured and lied to, that there was destruction
of all of Israel, been destroyed, That they were told
that their loved ones had been killed, their family members
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had been murdered, that no one had survived, that they
were going to die, that they were going to dig
their own grapes. Some of them did to see the torment,
and I think that's one of the things i will
forever remember from this trip and I'm grateful for it.
Is when we talk about what this is like, the
psychological warfare center and the evil of Hamas and Hezballah
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has no ends. Whether it's blowing up farmers' homes for sport,
whether it is killing children, is that the soccer ball
and seeing these kids their only crime was being Jewish
and playing sports, that's it. Look, I met.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Kill civilians are the embodiment of evil, and sadly we
live in a world where where evil is plentiful.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's incredible. So today I'm going to be leaving with
the government and going down to the side of the
attack at the festival uh and I'm going to be
meeting with some of the hostages there. I'm going to
hopefully tell those stories as well in one of our
next episodes, because it's just telling their stories and letting
people understand what happened that day, and going to go
to the kibbutz that were attacked there and and tour
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the homes of the of the the children that were
that were murdered in their cribs. I'm going to meet
with the families of the elderly that were killed, including
Holocaust survivors. I met with some Holocaust survivors that were
had to are homeless in essence and had to move
to Jerusalem to survive the war. I met with them
as well. Incredible stories. So we'll have more of that,
I promise you coming up in other episodes. But I
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want to say to everyone that is listening, if you
are a person of faith, I the pilgrimage to come
here and to see I think the hope of our
faith and Christianity, to walk where Jesus walked, to walk
where he carried the cross. I did that the first
day I was here.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And to be able to just see the Sea of
Galilee and witness where so much of our biblical eighty
percent of the biblical history, uh, and in the in
the Bible with Jesus, I got to witness from sending
him one place one It's amazing. And it spread to
the war.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Where they believe Jesus was crucified, where they believe he
was buried, and and and and where he rose again
in heaven.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I got to go to the tom Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean standing in the tomb, I look as
a believer, it takes your breath away.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. The the the as I described it to family
in a text, I said, the level of feeling I
would say the Holy Spirit in these places is something
I've never felt before. Uh. The second closest I've ever
spelt to that type of spiritual gathering of Christian was
honestly Charlie Kirk's memorial and it was incredible. Two of
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the biggest spiritual moments in my life have happened in
the last sixty days, both in a weird way around tragedy,
which also is why I think it's incredible when you're
Christian that you know that God is still a God
of hope.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Amen, let's talk about bad news here at home Tuesday. Yeah,
the election, really bad election, all right, So let's start.
Let's start with Virginia. So Virginia, we're sitting here, It's
now eleven thirty six pm on the East Coast. We
have ninety five percent of the vote in and Abigail
(23:37):
Spanberger the Democrat, has fifty seven point four percent of
the vote. When some Earl Seals has forty two point
four percent. So it's at this moment, Yeah, it is
one million, nine hundred and five, four hundred and fifty
two votes to one million, four hundred and two and twenty.
And I will say four years ago, Glenn Youngkin won
(24:00):
and it was a great moment for American Glenn is
a good friend. Virginia turned red in this race. Winsome
and I went and helped do a fundraiser for wins
a couple of weeks ago. Winsome is an African American woman.
She's a strong conservative. She was an immigrant from Jamaica.
She is a marine veteran. She was a strong candidate.
(24:22):
She was massively outspent. I think she was outspent more
than two to one, maybe even three to one.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
That being said, you go back to the debate between
Abigail Spanberger and Winsom Earl Series. I've never seen a
more lopsided debate. Abigail Spanberger stared ahead, refused to look
at her, Like you and I have both seen, I
don't know, hundreds of political debates a lot. I've never
(24:50):
seen a political candidate refused to make eye contact with
their opponent. She literally, her attitude was one of contempt,
like you don't exist and you don't merit even my attention.
And I got to say it makes me sad. Look
given the money. Differentially, I'm not shocked that the Democrat won.
(25:13):
We're looking at right now a fifteen point win. That
is yeah, really really bad news.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's also I think one of the things that was
the most shocking about Virginia is we break this down,
I'm not surprised Democrats won there. I do think it
was a left winning state Youngk and when he won,
it was a perfect storm. You and I, I think,
are the first to admit that. And I love doing
this show with you.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, and I campaigned for Glenn all over Virginia. I
spent two days on the road with Glenn barnstorming the state.
We won it four years ago, but this is a
different environment. Yeah, it was a perfect storm, and he
was better funded than.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
No doubt about it. But there was a perfect storm
with the issue there with parents and rights and schools
and the cover up of well in Loudon County ideology.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So it's worth remembering what happened in lowde County right
before Glenn Youngkin's race where you had a teenage boy
in high school who went into a girl's bathroom in
high school. He was dressed as a girl, he was
in a skirt, and he sexually assaulted He sexually assaulted
a teenage girl, and the school covered it up. They
(26:23):
hid it, and the father of the teenage girl went
to the school board confronted them and said, my daughter
was raped in your school and you're not acknowledging this,
and and and they yelled at him. They said, no,
there has never been a boy dressed as a girl
who sexually assaulted anyone. That was a lie. By the way,
(26:44):
this same sexual offender was transferred to another school where
he sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Another girl again.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, he did it again. But they ended up arresting
the father of the girl, of the victim. And that
moment was such a clarifying moment. You also had the
the you know, Randy Winingarten, the head of the teachers unions,
campaigning with Cherry mcculluff, the Democrat nominee, where mccaulluff said,
(27:12):
your kids are not yours to educate, we're in charge
of your kids. It was a perfect storm. Now there
was a state's property and the voters said, well now
at the same time tonight, and we're now at eleven
forty pm. Eleven forty pm with ninety four point six
(27:33):
percent of the votes in Mikey Cheryl in New Jersey
won fifty six point two percent and Jack Chittarelli won
forty three point two percent. So the it's very very similar.
The vote totals are right now, one million, seven hundred
and seventy four one hundred and seventy eight votes for MIKEL.
(27:55):
Cheryl the Democrat and one million, three hundred and sixty
five thousand, fifty two project Chittarelly. I gotta admit this
is an even more surprising result for me than Virginia.
Of the three major elections tonight, I was most optimistic
about New Jersey. Chittarelli seemed an implementum that there were
(28:19):
a bunch of Democrat mayors and elected officials that were
endorsing him. And you know, this is just that that's
what a thirteen point differential as we sit here tonight,
that is a massive, massive loss. And what is disappointing
is is that's not just a loss in Virginia and
(28:40):
New Jersey, but Virginia, New Jersey are historically the first
off year election after a presidential election. They are frequently
a Canarian a coal mine. So you go back to
after Obama was elected, you had Virginia, New Jersey with
elected Republicans and it proved a forerunner of a great
(29:05):
Republican victory coming. This ain't good to have double digit
losses in both New Jersey and Virginia. It is a
really bad sign. If you're a Democrat tonight, you're thrilled,
you're encouraged, And if you're a conservative, you're someone who
loves America. This is a major warning sign.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I'll say this, it's a warning sign. But I
also want to put it in perspective because these are
states that are that are not Republican states, true, So
I do want to put that in perspective. I also
want to say, and I want to give a little
bit of hope here. The amount of money that came in,
and let's go back to Virginia for a second, was astronomical.
You had a candidate that won on the ballot in
(29:45):
Virginia that had text messages came out saying he wanted
his political opponents to die, including their children, and said
in those text messages that it's only when Republicans are
basically murdered, their children are killed, that then they will
move to our idi. That is the same type of
conversations that I've been having in Israel about what Terrists believe.
(30:05):
And yet that person also won in that race. So
I go back to Democrats are angry. They are mobilized
right now. Mundani for example, in New York, which we're
gonna move to in a second, and a straight up
communist is now going to be running the America's greatest city.
He just wrapped up his speech there in New York City.
But the amount of money that Democrats put into Virginia,
(30:27):
which again is a Democrat state, we did not have
a perfect storm on the issues this time like we
did with Younkin last time. I think young Kin was
a better candidate. I just want to be clear about
that from a political perspective of which can it was
better and Virginia we had some momentum there. It's still
a very liberal state. Is New Jersey is a liberal state?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, But let me say a couple of things. Number One,
Virginia and New Jersey are both very liberal states. Virginia
has a ton of government workers in northern Virginia. The
Democrats have just use the longest government shut down in
American history, and they nonetheless had.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Any maazing on purpose victory.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It was on purpose. So one of the things I said,
the Democrats would not open the government before today because
they believe the shutdown energizes their base. I predicted we'll
see the government open either later this week or early
next week. And yet apparently all of these government workers
who are not getting paychecks, who haven't gotten paychecks for
(31:29):
thirty five days, they all voted left wing. They all
voted Democrat, even the folks that that Chuck Schumer and
the Democrats purposely shut down their jobs, that their ideology
mattered more than their own home mortgage. And I gotta say,
you under explained.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Let's also explain that the political side of Virginia for
people that don't live in DC or never have or
never worked in DC. So the majority of people that
work in government in d C. And that's a lot
of employees. If you kids, a lot of them don't
live in DC. Disar of Columbia is different, housing, different schooling.
A lot the majority of my friends that work in
(32:07):
politics in DC live in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So inwout the jobs, the agree and I don't know
that I would say the majority of the people, but
a large percentage live in northern Virginia, a large percentage
live in Maryland, and a significant percentage live in DC.
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I mean, I think Virginia the ripple effect is maybe
a better way of describing it, which is, if you
live in Virginia, the chances that you are either a
related or one of your very good friends is missing
a paycheck right now is extremely high.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And thencrats knew that they're so partisan.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And they wanted the governor. Yeah, they wanted it.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
They're just angry, and I want to to say, I
want to underscore something you said. Look, the governor's race
is very disappointing. The one that is frankly shocking is
the Virginia AG race. So j Jones, the Democrat won.
He won with fifty two point nine percent. He beat
Jason Miarrez. Jason Millars is the incumbent Republican. He's Cuban American.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
He got forty six point seven percent, So it was
as of right high ond eleven forty seven. Jay Jones
got one million, seven hundred and three hundred and seventy
votes and Millar's got one million, five hundred and thirty three,
eight hundred and forty one votes. That is truly shocking
because J Jones is the one who texted that he
(35:42):
wanted to see the children of the Republican Speaker of
the House murdered. And it was at a time of
political violence. This sick, depraved psychopath. And I'm sorry if
you were wishing. And by the way, he knew those children.
That these were not abstract children. He knew his colleague.
They were both serving in the state legislature. He knew
(36:04):
his colleagues children, and he said, I want to see
them murdered. He also said he wanted to see his
colleague murder and at the time of glorifying violence. And
there was an enormous discussion. Now, Abigail Spangberger refused to
condemn him, And I will say the Democrats the degree
of message discipline. Not a single Democrat in Virginia that
(36:25):
I'm aware of or nationally condemn J. Jones for saying
and writing he wanted to see the children of his
political opponent murdered. Look, the Democrat party the message disciplined.
If he were Republican, they would have thrown him overboard
in a heartbeat. But the Democrats don't care. They're just like, nope,
(36:46):
we're on this team. A little bit of murder of
children doesn't matter. We're in support of it, I gotta say,
and there was a lot of polling. Look when some sears,
the polling had shown for a fair amount of time
that she was losing Millara is the polling has shown
that he was winning. And so this is a surprising
(37:07):
result that we're looking at a five to six point victory.
That means they're Democrats that do not care. I've got
a candidate who wants children to be murdered. That's my guy.
Like wow, that is a depressing and sad statement of
(37:27):
where we are as a country.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
It is and if you go from that to New
York City, which look Mandani said in his speech moments ago,
this is a clear victory for people wanting change. This
race Center was really about class warfare. It was about
Robin hood campaign. For him, it was a straight up communism.
(37:50):
I mean the red apple is literally a communist apple.
Now a man that wants to take from the rich,
give to the poor, push people out that are wealthy
and successful them into port to being poor, and run
people out of the state that he says don't want
to pay their fair share or they are fighting him.
He's all about giving away free stuff, whether it's free
bussing or free food, free grocery store like. This is
(38:13):
full blown communism, is what he's an advocate for. A
guy that's never had a real job in his entire life,
a guy that's radical. His parents a radical as well.
He won overwhelmingly in New York City. That is the
biggest concern for me is that this cancer of socialism
the Democratic Party is spreading, and I would say spreading
(38:33):
rapidly to America's most biggest and most important financial city.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Look, comrade Mondami is now the mayor of New York.
That is incredibly distressing. This man is a communist and
he is a Jahadist, and those are not I'm not
using those as empty epithetic.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Explain that the jihadis aspects of people. Know what you
mean by that.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So so listen. This is someone who is cheered for Hamas.
He has called for the eradication of Israel. He is.
He is an Islamist. He believes in political Islam. He
had told the people of New York the police brutality
in New York was trained and taught by the IDF,
(39:19):
the Israeli Defense Forces. That's psychotic. He is a communist
and I don't say that in the sense that like
sometimes people say, oh, democrats are all communists. No, know,
this is someone that calls for seizing the means of
production in society. He is an explicit and this is
something that's called the Red Green Alliance, which is the
(39:42):
alliance between Jahatis and communists, and Mamdani is the intersection
of both of them. There are some Republicans that are happy.
They're like, Okay, this is great. Will We'll have great
victories in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight because
there's such a whack job as mayor of New York
that in every other state will be able to campaign
(40:03):
against Comrade Mamdani. I am not celebrating. Look New York.
New York's not my favorite city in the world. But
New York is a crown jewel of America. New York
is the financial capital of the world. New York is
the media capital of the world. By any measure, New
York is one of the most important cities in America.
(40:27):
And to have New York now governed by a radical
communist jihadis let me tell you what's going to happen.
More people are going to die in New York Comrade
Mandani is going to wage war against the NYPD. I'm
in New York quite a bit, I can tell you.
I actually can't tell you how many New York cops
have said they're terrified of what's going to happen if
(40:49):
this guy wins. You're going to see the police.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
He's made it clear in the past he wants to
get rid of all police. He said he wants to
abolish the police. He believes there should be no police
force in New York City.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Look, there's going to be more in New York. There's
gonna be more rapes in New York. They're gonna be
more children attacked in New York. We're going to see
more with resources fleeing New York, coming to Florida, coming
to Texas. And the results as of eleven to fifty
two PM, Mom Donnie fifty point four percent. Andrew Cuomo,
(41:23):
who was the governor of New York. He's a Democrat,
he's not like a right wing guy. He's Andrew Friggin
Cuomo forty one point six percent, and then Curtis Silwa
seven point one percent. Now, look, I would have liked
to have seen Silwa drop out.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, to give Alomo on TV.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, to give to give Cuomo a better chance of
winning seven percent is just a spoiler. And but I'll
tell you what's distressing. As of right now, even if
Silwa dropped out, if you gave every bit one hundred
percent of Silba's votes to Cuomo, and you wouldn't have
there some people that would say, I'm not voting for Kuoma.
But if he gave one hundred percent, Soa as of
(42:03):
right now, had one hundred and forty one hundred and
twenty seven votes. Cuomo had eight hundred and fifty four thousand,
seven hundred and eighty three. If you add those two together,
it's still less than what Mandani had of one million,
thirty five thousand, six hundred and forty six. So Mondami
right now is at fifty point four percent, which means
it means it didn't matter. A majority of New Yorkers
(42:25):
wanted a communist Jahatist. And I got to say, you know,
a couple of days ago, like we saw some Jewish
rabbis in New York endorsing Mandami. I got to tell
you a buddy of mine, I went to college with
very smart guy, brilliant guy. He was a college debater
actually had debated with him. But he is a liberal Democrat.
(42:47):
He is a Jewish New Yorker. I was in New
York three four weeks ago and we spent about an
hour sitting around around a glass scotch where he was
explaining he had voted from Mondami and I don't know
what say to that, like, it is truly terrifying.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
This's where the Democrat Party is going.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
This is the future of the Democrat Party. You might think, Okay,
that vodes well for America because the rest of the
country will move in the direction of common sense. I
got to say, at least New Jersey and Virginia are
not encouraging that regard.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Finally, want to get your
quick thoughts. It is official. I'm looking at the numbers
on the TV right now. California has passed Proposition fifty.
Tell people what that is quickly and your reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So California wants to redistrict. They're going to redistrict to
create five new Democrat seats. California is already one of
the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country. I think
eighty two eighty three percent of the seats are Democrat,
even though only about sixty percent of the votes are Democrat. There,
we're gonna jack it up to over ninety percent Democrat.
(44:03):
They're just that they're trying to eliminate Republicans. They're telling
Republicans in California you have no voice. And this is
an example Democrats do not give a damn about democracy.
This is all about power. Now you're gonna see other
Republican states respond. You're gonna see other republican states redistrict.
(44:24):
They claimed they were doing this in response to Texas,
but Texas was went from about sixty three percent Republicans
to about seventy six percent Republicans. Texas votes overwhelmingly Republicans,
so by any measure, even under the new map, Texas
is markedly less gerrymanner than California used to be. And
(44:48):
they decided eighty three percent is not enough. We want
to get north of ninety. This is pure power. This
shows Gavin Newsom has contempt for democracy and and it
is sadly typical of where Democrats are Nashley.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, it is, It truly is. And they just said,
if you're a Republican in California. You have zero representation here.
Get out, leave the state, and we will not listen
to a word that you say. It's amazing. It is
like you said, it was a rough night for Republicans.
I say it again, putting it in perspective. These are
all places that lean Democrat. They had a lot of money,
(45:28):
they had a lot of momentum. They wanted to show
some victories against Donald Trump. The government shutdown clearly had
a big impact in the Virginia race there and and
I'm still in shock by where we are in New
York City. Uh with it with a full blown communist there.
We're gonna keep talking about it. We'll keep you informed,
and we'll also I will be giving you the stories
coming up in two days about seeing where this masker
(45:51):
took place on the October seventh attack in Israel, and
the victims I'm gonna meet with will have all that
for you on the next verdict. Also this one is
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
with you. It is election night in America. I am
in Israel right now. It's about six fourteen in the
morning in Israel. I don't even know what time it
is in Washington, d C. Right now. That's how jetlagged
I am. And we are doing a joint podcast today
with Verdict with Ted Cruz, my show, the Ben Ferguson
(00:21):
podcasts as well, to cover everything going on with the
election and also some incredible moments in Israel. Center. It
is official New York is turning red, communist red. The
big red Apple is now a communist red apple. Let's
start with that.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well, listen, it is eleven to fourteen pm in Washington,
D C. And then I got to say tonight was
a terrible night for Republicans. It was a terrible night
for conservatives, and it was a terrible night for America.
The damage in New York City, the damage in Virginia,
the damage in New Jersey, the damage in California has
(01:03):
been enormous. We're going to break down this really disappointing
and dangerous electoral result that happened tonight. We're also going
to talk about the fact that Ben is on the
ground in Israel. What is he seeing, who is he
meeting with? What is the dynamic. Israel has just won
a war. They have just defeated Iran in a twelve
(01:24):
day war. They are still battling Hamas. There's an historic
peace steal that President Trump has negotiated, but Hamas is
resisting and violating the peace steal. We're going to talk
about what Ben seeing on the ground, all of that
on Today's Verdict.
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as I sit here right now and many of you
are going to get to watch this on YouTube, as
we're also putting this up on YouTube this episode, I
am in Israel. This is my first time. So I've
had five trips planned to come to Israel. The first
four got canceled, one from COVID, the other three because
(03:45):
of wars that'd broken out. This dates back all the
way to two thousand and four, thousand and five and
the first time I'm supposed to go to Israel, and
I cannot tell you you've been here. Just being able
to do simple things like going to the Whaling Wall,
staying here in Jerusalem have been a spiritual journey that
I would tell everyone listening to verdict right now it
(04:05):
is safe to come to Israel right now. That is
the one thing that's very clear from the ceasefire. There
are lots of people coming back to see this incredible country.
But if you are a person of faith and you've
experienced this, coming to Israel connects so many dots. I
was at the Sea of Galilee yesterday and getting to
witness as historians and religious leaders were telling the stories
(04:28):
of the Bible, where it was the Beatitudes, where there
was walking on water, whether it was the fish that
continued to feed, seeing the miracles of Jesus before your
very eyes, overlooking this incredible country, while at the same time,
being moments away from where this war was taking place
and people are being killed was a somber but special moment.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So, Ben, have you been to Israel before? Is this
first trip?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
This is my pilgrimage, very first time ever?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, it is amazing. I've been a number of time
to Israel, and it is a breathtaking place. It is
a place all of history converges on. It is the
birthplace of Christianity, is the birthplace of Judaism in Israel
and Jerusalem. You walk down roads the city of David,
(05:18):
which is this underground archaeological excavation under Jerusalem. You walk
down the road from from the pool of Shiloh to
the old Temple where Jesus most certainly walked, and you
walk along it and there are platforms that a street
(05:38):
preacher and a itinerant preacher would stand and preach on,
and you stand. I've stood on those platforms, and it
takes your breath away that Jesus Christ almost certainly stood
on this particular piece of stone addressing the crowd of
the Israelites who were there in Jerusalem. The Sea of
(06:00):
Alle You look at you imagine Jesus walking up to Peter,
walking up to fishermen and saying, follow me and let
me make you fishers of men and not just fishermen.
And it is it's a beautiful place. It is a
profound place. So tell me when did you arrive and
what have you done on the ground at Israel.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So arrived on Monday after delayed flight missed missed a
flight because of actually the shutdown is what we're told
with And then we had a time out with with
with the with the air traffic controllers and also the
crew on the plane. So we sat on the tarmac
for about five hours in Houston and then they said
you got to got the plane. We've lost our crew
because of the rules. And this is a TSA And
(06:41):
it was at the very beginning of kind of the
break are part of a broader.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Group or like what what's the reason for going to Israel?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, so I was asked to come over from the
Israeli government and also came with the CEO of i
f c J, the International Fellowship of Christ Jews. Uh,
there is a a Christian leadership conference happening here as
well at the same time. Uh. That is uh, it
is one that's been postponed because of the war, and
so I was asked to speak at that. UH. This
(07:09):
is a conference where BB is speaking, where you have
the Mayor of Jerusalem is speaking, you have the US
Ambassador Mike Huckabee as well, and it is bringing Christians
together back to the to the Holy Land. But then
what also has happens. They've set up these incredible moments
and tours where I've been able to meet with with
with some of the victims of the war UH and
(07:30):
go and see UH where the war is taking placed.
So yesterday we actually went to the border UH with
Syria and with Lebanon and went literally to where we
could see Hesblah looking at us.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And was met with the parents of the kids who
were killed on the soccer field. Tell us about that.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, So last night I have and I will try
not to get emotional, but it's hard not to. I
was asked to come and to meet with the families,
some of the families whose children twelve children that were
killed while playing soccer on a soccer field. It made
international news. We covered it on this show, and they
asked me if I would meet with the families and
(08:09):
hear the family stories and I was there and the
parents were talking of this was one of the little
girls you can see who died and her mother was
the first one to speak. And the age of the
kids want to tell the story. They were all different ages.
They were very young to a seventeen year old if
I remember correctly. Some of it was through translation, but
(08:31):
you can kind of see the different ages here. Some
of them are obviously most were younger, but you can
see there someone's a little bit older and junior high.
You can see that's one of the oldest kids there,
and that was you know, it's it's incredible. But we
sat there and we were hearing their stories, these kids,
and at the very end, they said they'd like to
present me with things. I didn't know they were going
to do this, and I put the picture of on
(08:54):
social media, but the mother of this young girl said
that they wanted to give me something. And I didn't
see the ball before they brought it out, but these
pictures on this ball, so people understand their stickers. They're handmade.
And they said they wanted to say thank you for
standing up for their kids and for telling their story
to the world, because they they want people to understand
(09:16):
what it's like to live in Israel and what was
taken from them from by the way market.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
These were children that were doing nothing. They were they
were playing on a soccer field. There were being kids
and suddenly Hesbala rocket came over and killed them all.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and it was a the way that they described
it was they didn't care who they killed. There was
there was a lot of media spend that well, this
this soccer field maybe wasn't directly target Hesbla doesn't care
who they killed. They just want to kill Jews.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
One of the other and one of the points ben
that's important with both Hesbela and Hamas most of the
rockets they fire have no guidance systems, so they literally
just fire a rocket in the air towards is filled
with explosives, many times filled with anti personnel shrapnel, ball
bearings and nails and screws and things that would rip
(10:09):
human flesh apart, and they just fire them towards Israel
because they figure, you know what, they're Jews over there,
so let's just kill as many of them as we can,
and whether it kills little kids, normally, in the vast
majority of the times, military targets are not the targets.
It's just fire it towards Israel, and if we killed Jews,
we celebrate. And that, tragically is what happened at the
(10:31):
soccer field.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's exactly what happened. And not far from where that
soccer field attack happened, we went to an orchard. What's
one thing that you learn so much from being here,
but there is a lot of farming that has done
in Israel. Israel does an amazing job with water and
turning saltwater into fresh water. It is what is kept
this country alive and not dependent on others, especially in
(10:55):
war when people would shut off water to Israel. It's
the desert and what they've done is unbelievable. We talked
about that, learned about that, but we went to a
basically a kibbutz. It's a neighborhood. And in that neighborhood,
you know what they you know what the they.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
In northern Israel, southern Israel, where the where's the kobuts?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You went to the tip of Northern on the opposite
side of where the attack happened. The initial attack happened
in October.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
This okay, so right by the Golan border.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
With Lebedon and Hesbelah. So if you're looking at the map,
this would be in Syria hes Blah at the northern point.
And they started us there because they said they wanted
us to understand that the goal, by the way, for
folks from both sides, for folks.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
At home to understand. So Israel is a very small nation.
It's about the size of the state of New Jersey. Yeah,
where October seventh happened was in the southern part of Israel.
It's right by the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip is
along the Mediterranean in the southern part, and Hamas, which
is the terrorist major terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip,
(11:55):
entered into southern Israel and murdered over twelve hundred Israelis,
raped women and little girls, took over two hundred Israelis hostage.
It was also one of the worst American terrorist attacks ever,
as we saw dozens of Americans murdered, dozens of Americans
taken hostage. Now northern Israel, which is up by Lebanon
(12:17):
and Syria, what you have up there is Hesbela, hesbel
As a different terrorist organization. Both Hesbela and Hamas their
patron is Iran and Iran funds over ninety percent of
Hamas's budget, Iran funds over ninety percent of Hesbel's budget.
When October seventh first erupted, Israel quite rightly declared we
(12:39):
are going to utterly destroy Hamas. There was an interesting
period that extended for weeks and then even a couple
of months where it wasn't clear if Hamas would be
or rather Hesbela would be drawn into this. Hamas was
the ressor on October seventh, and Hesbela had the opportunity
just to shut up and not engage, and then Hesbela
(12:59):
pretty quick decided nope, we want to raise our hand,
we want to engage, and began just just firing rockets,
a massive barrage of rockets in northern Israel, thousands and
the kids.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I was told yesterday by the US government about sixty
percent of all the rockets on hand that Hesbla had
in their arsenal were shot during this war.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Repeat that. That's a powerful.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Statement, sixty percent. And as we had our briefing from
the Israeli government, we actually went to this neighborhood, this kibbutz,
and in this neighborhood their sin for being targeted by
Hesbla was that they that they farm pink Lady apples
that we eat in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And by the way, much of northern Israel was evacuated
because the rocket attacks were so intense that the Israelis
couldn't live there anymore, because you couldn't go into your
own home without risk of rock blowing it up.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And so the.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Amazing thing is Hesbela literally volunteered and said, hey, we
want to be part of this, and then the Israelis
carried out the Pager attack, which remains one of the
most extraordinary military and intelligence operations I think the world
has ever seen. Where I mean, I've joked, but this
is not a joke. If you wrote the Pager Attack
(14:20):
as a script to a movie, nobody in Hollywood would
buy it. If you wrote it as a jacent Bourne movie,
they say, this is ridiculous. You're telling me. Israel creates
a shell company in Hong Kong, builds pass years in advance,
makes them heavy duty, kind of serious, hardcore pagers and
(14:42):
in beds where the battery would be a tiny little explosive.
Then gets this shell company in Hong Kong to sell
the pagers to Hesbela, Like, how the hell do you
do that? I don't know how you sell pagers to Hesbela,
but the Masad does, Israel does sells them to Hesbela.
And then this remains the single most targeted military and
(15:03):
intelligence attack I think in history, because it was Hesbela
leadership that decided, Okay, who is it that gets these pagers?
I'm going to give it to every crazy ass terrorist
we have in lemanon the people that I want to
be able to page and say, hey, would you go
blow up a bus, would you go blow up at
(15:24):
a mall? Would you go murder children? Take this pager?
And then Israel in a simultaneous moment, detonated all the
pagers and took out every person that was injured, every
person that was killed, with very minor exceptions of someone
who was really close to a terrorist. They were personally
(15:46):
selected by the leaders of Hesbela. Hesbela decided which terrorists died.
And by the way, within a day or two, there
was a second operation where Hesbela was using walkie talkies.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Those blow up and filtrated. Yeah, they blow those up
as well.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah. By the end of it, I think every Hesbela terrorists,
every Hamas terrorists, every Iran I r GC terrorists, like
every time a phone rang, they jumped. It was extraordinary
and it was a response to so what Hesbela literally
volunteered and said, we want to be decimated as bad
as as Hamas, and Israel said, well, happy to oblige.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You go back to this neighborhood. And as we went
into this neighborhood, which the people have a lot of
them have still not returned. Some of the farmers are
coming there to farm. But Hesbelon knew the houses that
they were blowing up in this neighborhood were farmers. They
knew that they were families. And what they did would
(16:46):
to justify their attacks early on was when the people
had fled, the Israeli military would take back in to
the husband of the home to go get some of
their belongings before they would flee again. And they justify
if the military walking in the house is the reason
to blow the house up. And so I met with
a farmer who had three children the exact same age
(17:07):
as my kids. Wow, and he was showing us his
neighborhood and he was talking about how I had to
come back to tend the fields because this is my home.
And I was literally under rocket barrage and would come
to work knowing that Hezbollah was targeting the houses. And
so finally after a few days that the homeowners said
to the military, don't go back into my house, because
(17:29):
as soon as you go in there, they blow up
my home and everything is destroyed. We went into a home.
The books of the children were still there, the stove
was still there the way it was set. That morning,
the one of the homeowners offered me a piece of
a broken pot of their home and a burner of
the stove and said take it back, and a piece
(17:51):
of their tile in their children's bathroom. I'll put it
on my desk for the rest of my life. But
to hear them talk about the brute of Hesbla, knowing
that you're blowing up a farmer's home who has never
bothered you in your entire life for sport. It was
just for sport at that point, it was even killing
a person pure They knew that they were, yeah, just
(18:15):
pure sport and hatred, like we're going to blow up
your neighborhood because you are Jewish. We know you're not there,
we know you have fled, but we want you to
come back to destruction in ruins.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And so you've been in northern Israel. Have you been
in Tel Aviv? Have you been in Jerusalem? Where else
have you been been in?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So? Been in Tel Aviv as well, which is an
incredible city. I didn't realize how much it's like New
York City or a major It's a very modern sitate
life city, thriving, modern city, a lot of technology out
of out of there that is actually exported to the
rest of the world. It's incredible the minds that the
brilliant minds that are working in Tel Aviv. I'm staying
(18:55):
in Jerusalem. I do want to say.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
One other thing is that where you are now is
Jerusalem at the King David Hotel.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, I'm in Jerusalem. I met not the King David.
I'm at the it starts with an A. I can't
remember the name. I'd have to look around the room
and find it. But it's right at the entrance of
the of the markets here, and it's a beautiful market
that they have built this city to try to revive
Jerusalem and make it even more for tourists. It's incredible.
The people he are so kind. But one other thing
(19:22):
I want to mention about this trip so far is
I met with the mother of one of the hostages
that was taken that became unfortunately, she became famous. If
you remember the videos that came out, there is a
girl that's been separated from her boyfriend. She is in
between two terrasts on a motorcycle and she's reaching out
and screaming for her boyfriend who is being held with
(19:45):
his arms and minds back by two terrasts and they're
separating them. And that video just went viral early on
in the moments after he was held underground for two
years without seeing sunlight and was starved, was returned. They
just re reunited. You may have seen that video of
them in the hospital finally getting to see each other
(20:06):
again and hugging and falling backwards as they hug on
the hospital bed, and the mother was telling the story
of her son and the trauma, the way that they
were mentally tortured and lied to, that there was destruction
of all of Israel, been destroyed, That they were told
that their loved ones had been killed, their family members
(20:26):
had been murdered, that no one had survived, that they
were going to die, that they were going to dig
their own grapes. Some of them did to see the torment,
and I think that's one of the things i will
forever remember from this trip and I'm grateful for it.
Is when we talk about what this is like, the
psychological warfare center and the evil of Hamas and Hezballah
(20:49):
has no ends. Whether it's blowing up farmers' homes for sport,
whether it is killing children, is that the soccer ball
and seeing these kids their only crime was being Jewish
and playing sports, that's it. Look, I met.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Kill civilians are the embodiment of evil, and sadly we
live in a world where where evil is plentiful.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's incredible. So today I'm going to be leaving with
the government and going down to the side of the
attack at the festival uh and I'm going to be
meeting with some of the hostages there. I'm going to
hopefully tell those stories as well in one of our
next episodes, because it's just telling their stories and letting
people understand what happened that day, and going to go
to the kibbutz that were attacked there and and tour
(21:33):
the homes of the of the the children that were
that were murdered in their cribs. I'm going to meet
with the families of the elderly that were killed, including
Holocaust survivors. I met with some Holocaust survivors that were
had to are homeless in essence and had to move
to Jerusalem to survive the war. I met with them
as well. Incredible stories. So we'll have more of that,
I promise you coming up in other episodes. But I
(21:55):
want to say to everyone that is listening, if you
are a person of faith, I the pilgrimage to come
here and to see I think the hope of our
faith and Christianity, to walk where Jesus walked, to walk
where he carried the cross. I did that the first
day I was here.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And to be able to just see the Sea of
Galilee and witness where so much of our biblical eighty
percent of the biblical history, uh, and in the in
the Bible with Jesus, I got to witness from sending
him one place one It's amazing. And it spread to
the war.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Where they believe Jesus was crucified, where they believe he
was buried, and and and and where he rose again
in heaven.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I got to go to the tom Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean standing in the tomb, I look as
a believer, it takes your breath away.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. The the the as I described it to family
in a text, I said, the level of feeling I
would say the Holy Spirit in these places is something
I've never felt before. Uh. The second closest I've ever
spelt to that type of spiritual gathering of Christian was
honestly Charlie Kirk's memorial and it was incredible. Two of
(23:06):
the biggest spiritual moments in my life have happened in
the last sixty days, both in a weird way around tragedy,
which also is why I think it's incredible when you're
Christian that you know that God is still a God
of hope.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Amen, let's talk about bad news here at home Tuesday. Yeah,
the election, really bad election, all right, So let's start.
Let's start with Virginia. So Virginia, we're sitting here, It's
now eleven thirty six pm on the East Coast. We
have ninety five percent of the vote in and Abigail
(23:37):
Spanberger the Democrat, has fifty seven point four percent of
the vote. When some Earl Seals has forty two point
four percent. So it's at this moment, Yeah, it is
one million, nine hundred and five, four hundred and fifty
two votes to one million, four hundred and two and twenty.
And I will say four years ago, Glenn Youngkin won
(24:00):
and it was a great moment for American Glenn is
a good friend. Virginia turned red in this race. Winsome
and I went and helped do a fundraiser for wins
a couple of weeks ago. Winsome is an African American woman.
She's a strong conservative. She was an immigrant from Jamaica.
She is a marine veteran. She was a strong candidate.
(24:22):
She was massively outspent. I think she was outspent more
than two to one, maybe even three to one.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
That being said, you go back to the debate between
Abigail Spanberger and Winsom Earl Series. I've never seen a
more lopsided debate. Abigail Spanberger stared ahead, refused to look
at her, Like you and I have both seen, I
don't know, hundreds of political debates a lot. I've never
(24:50):
seen a political candidate refused to make eye contact with
their opponent. She literally, her attitude was one of contempt,
like you don't exist and you don't merit even my attention.
And I got to say it makes me sad. Look
given the money. Differentially, I'm not shocked that the Democrat won.
(25:13):
We're looking at right now a fifteen point win. That
is yeah, really really bad news.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's also I think one of the things that was
the most shocking about Virginia is we break this down,
I'm not surprised Democrats won there. I do think it
was a left winning state Youngk and when he won,
it was a perfect storm. You and I, I think,
are the first to admit that. And I love doing
this show with you.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, and I campaigned for Glenn all over Virginia. I
spent two days on the road with Glenn barnstorming the state.
We won it four years ago, but this is a
different environment. Yeah, it was a perfect storm, and he
was better funded than.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
No doubt about it. But there was a perfect storm
with the issue there with parents and rights and schools
and the cover up of well in Loudon County ideology.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So it's worth remembering what happened in lowde County right
before Glenn Youngkin's race where you had a teenage boy
in high school who went into a girl's bathroom in
high school. He was dressed as a girl, he was
in a skirt, and he sexually assaulted He sexually assaulted
a teenage girl, and the school covered it up. They
(26:23):
hid it, and the father of the teenage girl went
to the school board confronted them and said, my daughter
was raped in your school and you're not acknowledging this,
and and and they yelled at him. They said, no,
there has never been a boy dressed as a girl
who sexually assaulted anyone. That was a lie. By the way,
(26:44):
this same sexual offender was transferred to another school where
he sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Another girl again.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, he did it again. But they ended up arresting
the father of the girl, of the victim. And that
moment was such a clarifying moment. You also had the
the you know, Randy Winingarten, the head of the teachers unions,
campaigning with Cherry mcculluff, the Democrat nominee, where mccaulluff said,
(27:12):
your kids are not yours to educate, we're in charge
of your kids. It was a perfect storm. Now there
was a state's property and the voters said, well now
at the same time tonight, and we're now at eleven
forty pm. Eleven forty pm with ninety four point six
(27:33):
percent of the votes in Mikey Cheryl in New Jersey
won fifty six point two percent and Jack Chittarelli won
forty three point two percent. So the it's very very similar.
The vote totals are right now, one million, seven hundred
and seventy four one hundred and seventy eight votes for MIKEL.
(27:55):
Cheryl the Democrat and one million, three hundred and sixty
five thousand, fifty two project Chittarelly. I gotta admit this
is an even more surprising result for me than Virginia.
Of the three major elections tonight, I was most optimistic
about New Jersey. Chittarelli seemed an implementum that there were
(28:19):
a bunch of Democrat mayors and elected officials that were
endorsing him. And you know, this is just that that's
what a thirteen point differential as we sit here tonight,
that is a massive, massive loss. And what is disappointing
is is that's not just a loss in Virginia and
(28:40):
New Jersey, but Virginia, New Jersey are historically the first
off year election after a presidential election. They are frequently
a Canarian a coal mine. So you go back to
after Obama was elected, you had Virginia, New Jersey with
elected Republicans and it proved a forerunner of a great
(29:05):
Republican victory coming. This ain't good to have double digit
losses in both New Jersey and Virginia. It is a
really bad sign. If you're a Democrat tonight, you're thrilled,
you're encouraged, And if you're a conservative, you're someone who
loves America. This is a major warning sign.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I'll say this, it's a warning sign. But I
also want to put it in perspective because these are
states that are that are not Republican states, true, So
I do want to put that in perspective. I also
want to say, and I want to give a little
bit of hope here. The amount of money that came in,
and let's go back to Virginia for a second, was astronomical.
You had a candidate that won on the ballot in
(29:45):
Virginia that had text messages came out saying he wanted
his political opponents to die, including their children, and said
in those text messages that it's only when Republicans are
basically murdered, their children are killed, that then they will
move to our idi. That is the same type of
conversations that I've been having in Israel about what Terrists believe.
(30:05):
And yet that person also won in that race. So
I go back to Democrats are angry. They are mobilized
right now. Mundani for example, in New York, which we're
gonna move to in a second, and a straight up
communist is now going to be running the America's greatest city.
He just wrapped up his speech there in New York City.
But the amount of money that Democrats put into Virginia,
(30:27):
which again is a Democrat state, we did not have
a perfect storm on the issues this time like we
did with Younkin last time. I think young Kin was
a better candidate. I just want to be clear about
that from a political perspective of which can it was
better and Virginia we had some momentum there. It's still
a very liberal state. Is New Jersey is a liberal state?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, But let me say a couple of things. Number One,
Virginia and New Jersey are both very liberal states. Virginia
has a ton of government workers in northern Virginia. The
Democrats have just use the longest government shut down in
American history, and they nonetheless had.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Any maazing on purpose victory.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It was on purpose. So one of the things I said,
the Democrats would not open the government before today because
they believe the shutdown energizes their base. I predicted we'll
see the government open either later this week or early
next week. And yet apparently all of these government workers
who are not getting paychecks, who haven't gotten paychecks for
(31:29):
thirty five days, they all voted left wing. They all
voted Democrat, even the folks that that Chuck Schumer and
the Democrats purposely shut down their jobs, that their ideology
mattered more than their own home mortgage. And I gotta say,
you under explained.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Let's also explain that the political side of Virginia for
people that don't live in DC or never have or
never worked in DC. So the majority of people that
work in government in d C. And that's a lot
of employees. If you kids, a lot of them don't
live in DC. Disar of Columbia is different, housing, different schooling.
A lot the majority of my friends that work in
(32:07):
politics in DC live in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So inwout the jobs, the agree and I don't know
that I would say the majority of the people, but
a large percentage live in northern Virginia, a large percentage
live in Maryland, and a significant percentage live in DC.
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I mean, I think Virginia the ripple effect is maybe
a better way of describing it, which is, if you
live in Virginia, the chances that you are either a
related or one of your very good friends is missing
a paycheck right now is extremely high.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And thencrats knew that they're so partisan.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
And they wanted the governor. Yeah, they wanted it.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
They're just angry, and I want to to say, I
want to underscore something you said. Look, the governor's race
is very disappointing. The one that is frankly shocking is
the Virginia AG race. So j Jones, the Democrat won.
He won with fifty two point nine percent. He beat
Jason Miarrez. Jason Millars is the incumbent Republican. He's Cuban American.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
He got forty six point seven percent, So it was
as of right high ond eleven forty seven. Jay Jones
got one million, seven hundred and three hundred and seventy
votes and Millar's got one million, five hundred and thirty three,
eight hundred and forty one votes. That is truly shocking
because J Jones is the one who texted that he
(35:42):
wanted to see the children of the Republican Speaker of
the House murdered. And it was at a time of
political violence. This sick, depraved psychopath. And I'm sorry if
you were wishing. And by the way, he knew those children.
That these were not abstract children. He knew his colleague.
They were both serving in the state legislature. He knew
(36:04):
his colleagues children, and he said, I want to see
them murdered. He also said he wanted to see his
colleague murder and at the time of glorifying violence. And
there was an enormous discussion. Now, Abigail Spangberger refused to
condemn him, And I will say the Democrats the degree
of message discipline. Not a single Democrat in Virginia that
(36:25):
I'm aware of or nationally condemn J. Jones for saying
and writing he wanted to see the children of his
political opponent murdered. Look, the Democrat party the message disciplined.
If he were Republican, they would have thrown him overboard
in a heartbeat. But the Democrats don't care. They're just like, nope,
(36:46):
we're on this team. A little bit of murder of
children doesn't matter. We're in support of it, I gotta say,
and there was a lot of polling. Look when some sears,
the polling had shown for a fair amount of time
that she was losing Millara is the polling has shown
that he was winning. And so this is a surprising
(37:07):
result that we're looking at a five to six point victory.
That means they're Democrats that do not care. I've got
a candidate who wants children to be murdered. That's my guy.
Like wow, that is a depressing and sad statement of
(37:27):
where we are as a country.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
It is and if you go from that to New
York City, which look Mandani said in his speech moments ago,
this is a clear victory for people wanting change. This
race Center was really about class warfare. It was about
Robin hood campaign. For him, it was a straight up communism.
(37:50):
I mean the red apple is literally a communist apple.
Now a man that wants to take from the rich,
give to the poor, push people out that are wealthy
and successful them into port to being poor, and run
people out of the state that he says don't want
to pay their fair share or they are fighting him.
He's all about giving away free stuff, whether it's free
bussing or free food, free grocery store like. This is
(38:13):
full blown communism, is what he's an advocate for. A
guy that's never had a real job in his entire life,
a guy that's radical. His parents a radical as well.
He won overwhelmingly in New York City. That is the
biggest concern for me is that this cancer of socialism
the Democratic Party is spreading, and I would say spreading
(38:33):
rapidly to America's most biggest and most important financial city.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Look, comrade Mondami is now the mayor of New York.
That is incredibly distressing. This man is a communist and
he is a Jahadist, and those are not I'm not
using those as empty epithetic.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Explain that the jihadis aspects of people. Know what you
mean by that.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So so listen. This is someone who is cheered for Hamas.
He has called for the eradication of Israel. He is.
He is an Islamist. He believes in political Islam. He
had told the people of New York the police brutality
in New York was trained and taught by the IDF,
(39:19):
the Israeli Defense Forces. That's psychotic. He is a communist
and I don't say that in the sense that like
sometimes people say, oh, democrats are all communists. No, know,
this is someone that calls for seizing the means of
production in society. He is an explicit and this is
something that's called the Red Green Alliance, which is the
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alliance between Jahatis and communists, and Mamdani is the intersection
of both of them. There are some Republicans that are happy.
They're like, Okay, this is great. Will We'll have great
victories in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight because
there's such a whack job as mayor of New York
that in every other state will be able to campaign
(40:03):
against Comrade Mamdani. I am not celebrating. Look New York.
New York's not my favorite city in the world. But
New York is a crown jewel of America. New York
is the financial capital of the world. New York is
the media capital of the world. By any measure, New
York is one of the most important cities in America.
(40:27):
And to have New York now governed by a radical
communist jihadis let me tell you what's going to happen.
More people are going to die in New York Comrade
Mandani is going to wage war against the NYPD. I'm
in New York quite a bit, I can tell you.
I actually can't tell you how many New York cops
have said they're terrified of what's going to happen if
(40:49):
this guy wins. You're going to see the police.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
He's made it clear in the past he wants to
get rid of all police. He said he wants to
abolish the police. He believes there should be no police
force in New York City.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Look, there's going to be more in New York. There's
gonna be more rapes in New York. They're gonna be
more children attacked in New York. We're going to see
more with resources fleeing New York, coming to Florida, coming
to Texas. And the results as of eleven to fifty
two PM, Mom Donnie fifty point four percent. Andrew Cuomo,
(41:23):
who was the governor of New York. He's a Democrat,
he's not like a right wing guy. He's Andrew Friggin
Cuomo forty one point six percent, and then Curtis Silwa
seven point one percent. Now, look, I would have liked
to have seen Silwa drop out.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, to give Alomo on TV.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, to give to give Cuomo a better chance of
winning seven percent is just a spoiler. And but I'll
tell you what's distressing. As of right now, even if
Silwa dropped out, if you gave every bit one hundred
percent of Silba's votes to Cuomo, and you wouldn't have
there some people that would say, I'm not voting for Kuoma.
But if he gave one hundred percent, Soa as of
(42:03):
right now, had one hundred and forty one hundred and
twenty seven votes. Cuomo had eight hundred and fifty four thousand,
seven hundred and eighty three. If you add those two together,
it's still less than what Mandani had of one million,
thirty five thousand, six hundred and forty six. So Mondami
right now is at fifty point four percent, which means
it means it didn't matter. A majority of New Yorkers
(42:25):
wanted a communist Jahatist. And I got to say, you know,
a couple of days ago, like we saw some Jewish
rabbis in New York endorsing Mandami. I got to tell
you a buddy of mine, I went to college with
very smart guy, brilliant guy. He was a college debater
actually had debated with him. But he is a liberal Democrat.
(42:47):
He is a Jewish New Yorker. I was in New
York three four weeks ago and we spent about an
hour sitting around around a glass scotch where he was
explaining he had voted from Mondami and I don't know
what say to that, like, it is truly terrifying.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
This's where the Democrat Party is going.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
This is the future of the Democrat Party. You might think, Okay,
that vodes well for America because the rest of the
country will move in the direction of common sense. I
got to say, at least New Jersey and Virginia are
not encouraging that regard.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Finally, want to get your
quick thoughts. It is official. I'm looking at the numbers
on the TV right now. California has passed Proposition fifty.
Tell people what that is quickly and your reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So California wants to redistrict. They're going to redistrict to
create five new Democrat seats. California is already one of
the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country. I think
eighty two eighty three percent of the seats are Democrat,
even though only about sixty percent of the votes are Democrat. There,
we're gonna jack it up to over ninety percent Democrat.
(44:03):
They're just that they're trying to eliminate Republicans. They're telling
Republicans in California you have no voice. And this is
an example Democrats do not give a damn about democracy.
This is all about power. Now you're gonna see other
Republican states respond. You're gonna see other republican states redistrict.
(44:24):
They claimed they were doing this in response to Texas,
but Texas was went from about sixty three percent Republicans
to about seventy six percent Republicans. Texas votes overwhelmingly Republicans,
so by any measure, even under the new map, Texas
is markedly less gerrymanner than California used to be. And
(44:48):
they decided eighty three percent is not enough. We want
to get north of ninety. This is pure power. This
shows Gavin Newsom has contempt for democracy and and it
is sadly typical of where Democrats are Nashley.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, it is, It truly is. And they just said,
if you're a Republican in California. You have zero representation here.
Get out, leave the state, and we will not listen
to a word that you say. It's amazing. It is
like you said, it was a rough night for Republicans.
I say it again, putting it in perspective. These are
all places that lean Democrat. They had a lot of money,
(45:28):
they had a lot of momentum. They wanted to show
some victories against Donald Trump. The government shutdown clearly had
a big impact in the Virginia race there and and
I'm still in shock by where we are in New
York City. Uh with it with a full blown communist there.
We're gonna keep talking about it. We'll keep you informed,
and we'll also I will be giving you the stories
coming up in two days about seeing where this masker
(45:51):
took place on the October seventh attack in Israel, and
the victims I'm gonna meet with will have all that
for you on the next verdict. Also this one is
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