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October 4, 2025 • 31 mins
  • Cause of Shutdown:

    • Shutdown occurred after Congress failed to pass funding past September 30.

    • Cruz argues Democrats deliberately blocked a CR to appease their progressive base.

  • Senate Dynamics:

    • A CR passed the House but failed in the Senate, receiving 55 votes instead of the required 60.

    • Three Democrats (Fetterman, Cortez Masto, Angus King) voted with Republicans to keep government open.

  • Partisan Framing:

    • Democrats are motivated by hatred of Trump and internal party pressures.

    • Schumer is depicted as fearing a primary challenge from AOC and pandering to the left wing.

  • Policy Disputes:

    • Republicans claim Democrats demanded benefits such as free healthcare for undocumented immigrants and removal of work requirements for welfare.

    • The conversation suggests these were “unrealistic demands” meant only as political theater.

  • Impact of Shutdown:

    • Essential services (military, law enforcement, FAA) continue, but workers go unpaid temporarily.

    • Nonessential services like national parks and Smithsonian museums shut down.

  • Political Messaging:

    • Cruz and the host argue this is the “Schumer shutdown,” not a bipartisan failure.

    • They highlight Democrat statements from past years criticizing shutdown tactics, suggesting hypocrisy.

    • WATCH WH Hakeem Jeffries VIDEO HERE
  • Strategic Angle:

    • The Trump administration is said to plan permanent layoffs (“reduction in force”) of federal bureaucrats during the shutdown, targeting those seen as left-leaning.

    • This is framed as a strategic opportunity to reshape the federal workforce.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Democrats are holding Americans hostage, refusing to do what Republicans
did seven times during the Biden administration simply agreed to
a continuing resolution until the broader government plan, the financial
plan could be agreed to. But this time the Democrats
said no. Why they want to hurt Americans and they

(00:24):
want to put illegal immigrants first. We have a lot
to talk about when it comes to what all happened,
and now this all comes down to the Senate because
the overall plan has already made its way.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Out of the House. So what is next.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I want you to hear what Senator Cruz had to say,
because all this revolves around what's happening in the Senate.
The United States government is shut down. The Democrats they
did it on purpose. Apparently it was their plan. And
the question is for how long have they been planning
on doing this sat This is going to be a
very interesting show. This all revolve around the Senate. That

(01:02):
is something that maybe some people don't realize. Everything's come
out of the House. We're now to the Senate side
of things, and I want you to explain what it
was like in the hours leading after this shutdown. Was
there ever a chance in hell, that the government wasn't
going to shut down.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
No, that there was never a chance. It is just
after midnight, so the government is shut down just for
a few minutes. But I think the government shutdown is
going to last at a minimum of days. It may
be weeks, and it may even be longer. Really, yes,
this could extend for a significant period of time. And

(01:40):
understand this is the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump.
So I got to say. We had the vote tonight.
There was no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome. Out of
one hundred senators, all of us knew the outcome. The
vote was fifty five to forty five. So three Democrat

(02:01):
senators voted to keep the government open.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You have a pretty big deal, right, I mean, did
you think those three were going to go?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Where? Did you think it was going to be a
unanimous vote?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I mean Fetterman and two others like that's that is significant.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, look Fetterman, I was not surprised. So Fetterman voted
to keep the government open. Courtes Master voter to keep
the government open, and Angus King voted to keep the
government open. That's not shocking to me. It's fifty five
to forty five. Now why did the government shut down? Look,
the basic operation of government is the federal government cannot

(02:36):
continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds. Under the Constitution,
Congress has the power of the purse, So Congress appropriates
the spending of money. A typical fiscal year is October
first to September thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
spend money expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
of ways you can extend the government funding. One is

(03:15):
an appropriation and so they're typically in a good year,
they're thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind of
major segment of government. For a number of years, the
appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way that
government authorization occurs is through what are called crs. CR

(03:35):
is short for continual resolution. A continue resolution is essentially
Congress saying, what we are spending. Now, we can continue
continue the status quo identically for x period of time. Now,
the House of Representatives passed a CR, a clean CR
to fund the federal government through the middle of November.

(03:56):
So if the Senate had passed it.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh, let's be clear. When you say a clean that
means no political sananigans in it. It's literally saying, we're
taking the twenty five budget year and we're going to
say the exact same amount we spent in August, we're
gonna spend September, October, November until we get the new budget.
There is no port barrel extras. There's no political cigan

(04:19):
against from either side.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yes, yes, yes, okay. A clean CR says what we
spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow, that everything just
continues the same, and that's what the House has passed. Now.
The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
is in the nature of an appropriations or a CR,
it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've

(04:45):
got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
as I mentioned, we got fifty five, we got three Democrats,
but we need sixty, which means we need at least
seven Democrats, and actually here we need eight Democrats because
ran all voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes

(05:06):
to fund the government. Well, we only got three, and.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That was on purpose.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I want to pause just for a second to
go back to the cr historically. Let's just go back
to Biden's time in office when you guys were in
the minority. If I'm not mistaken, you guys did this
more than a dozen times where you came to go.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And say, hey, we machanged a thirteen time.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
All right, So thirteen different times y'all came together and
said we're gonna spend exactly what we spent yesterday to
keep the government open so we avoid a government shut down.
And you put the American people ahead of politics. And
that is a bipartisan moment, right, They had to have
some of your votes.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
So look, every time we came to the end of
government funding, you would have enough Republicans join with Democrats
to keep the government funded. Now, what has changed, Well,
several months ago we had another expiration of government funding.
And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, okay,
let's keep the government going. A very reasonable and very

(06:09):
common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
base lost their mind and Chuck Schumer nearly lost his
job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded several
months ago. The left wing rose up against him. And
you want to understand why we have a shutdown. It's

(06:31):
one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and
he sees AOC running up behind him, and he is
terrified he's going to lose his job. So listen, Schumer
knows this is not going to work. He knows this
is failures.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
See just pure cover your als politics one oh one
by Schumer.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So the radical left wing, they hate Trump and they
want today to be a giant f u to Trump.
They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
entire government down because arar. That's what we're watching now.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
By the way, So then hold on, when did this
become the plan? Was this weeks ago? Months ago? Was
this when they had the last year? As I got
the next time it comes up, I have no choice.
I got to shut down the government to flex my
muscles and also to there is a real concern by
him that AOC is going to run against him primary
him in the Senate, by the way, that is after

(07:33):
the next president's election cycle?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And that isn't he up two years after? If I'm
not mistaken, so be a gout five plus years from now.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
So, and to be clear, I predicted on this podcast
the inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for President
campaign is Chuck Schumer because he is desperate for AOC
not to primary him. Yeah, he's gonna say, Alexandra, you
are such a big deal, you were so important. Really,
the Senate's too small for you. Why do you want

(08:01):
to bother being in the Senate? Sue should be in
the White House. Schumer is going to be all in
on that, but he is living with absolute PTSD. He
is traumatized. He sees left wing antifa crazies coming around
on every side, and so from his end, this shutdown

(08:22):
is necessary politically. Now, what did the Democrats demand? They
demanded a lot of things, you know what the number
one demand was.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
By the way, I mean, when you think about that
and the polling data and what it says, I don't
understand why that would make your number one thing, Because
it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
our borders, stopping government waste, front of use doges was
a big part of it. And also making sure that
we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants. Right, no, no, no,
we want to spend one point five trillion if you

(08:56):
want our votes, and it has to be for health
care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work. That's
another thing, and they're like, no, no, no, we buy glly.
You better get minded people that are just straight up lazy,
that aren't that have the ability to work, but you
got to pay them to stay home.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah. A huge pump chunk of this is getting rid
of the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want
anyone to have to work. They wanted them to be
able to sit at home and get government checks. But
did you see the AI video of the White House
put out?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Which one they put out a couple different things. Which
one are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I want you? I want I want to play this
for everyone. This is fake So so all the nattering
nabobs this is fake news. But it is absolutely hysterical
that the White House put out. This is Chuck Schumer
and a Keem Jeffery is explaining what this shutdown is
all about.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Take a listen to this.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes
Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all
of our woke trans Not even black people want to
vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we
need new voters. And if we give all these illegal
aliens free healthcare, we might be able to get them
on our side so they can vote for us. They

(10:14):
can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just
a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know, at
least for a while until they learn English and they
realize they hate us too.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
See, this is when I love AI. This is when
I absolutely love the spoof from the President. And if
you can't see this, you need to go look at it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
We put up on.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Social media, the videos and Importphreeze has got a really nice
Hannibar mustache and a sombrero on.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
So look, pause for a second and realize that was
released by the White House. That was released by the
President of the United States. I feel a little guilty
because we've got some cursewords in there. We try to
avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do you do
when the president has put that out? You put it?

(11:03):
And I gotta say, the video sits today at lunch.
So every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, all the Republican senators
have lunch together. Yeah, today at lunch, John Thune met
with the President, met with Schumer, met with the King
Jeffries at the White House. And so Thune was giving
us a download on that. And you know, Thune was

(11:24):
talking about, Okay, the Democrats they don't want to cut
a deal. They're not willing to give it on anything.
And I will confess. I raised my hand. I question.
I said, John was a King Jeffries wearing the sombrero.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And what did he say?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
He just laughed. But look and everyone cracked up. But
that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down the
federal government because they want free health care for every
illegal alien in America. Yeah, you want to talk about,
like on every issue that's eighty twenty or even n

(12:01):
they're on the twenty or the ten side. The American
people do not support. If you want to have a
referendum in this country, should we give illegals free health care? Wow?
That will be overwhelming. But here's the secret. This shutdown
is not actually about free health care for illegals' that's
what the Democrats have hung their hat on because they

(12:22):
got to say they want.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
So they gotta say something, right.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
This is all about just we hate Donald Trump and
it is Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means
the end of this. Okay, there's no universe in which
Chuck Schumer will get President Trump to agree to let's
give free health care to illegals.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, not gonna happen. They know that.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, they're entering. There's no universe in which Republicans in
Congress are going to say, hey, that's a great idea,
let's give free health care to every illegal. Like that's
you might as well ask for Area fifty one, like
to release the Martians and let them take over the country. Yeah,
that is as likely to happen as free health care
for illegals from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is

(13:11):
not about getting what they're demanding. This is about how
long do they want to demonstrate Orange Man bad?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, and so do you actually believe. And let's go
back to the history of the Senate here. I don't
believe that Chuck Schumer actually wanted to shut down the government.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
No, No, I think he was forced to do it.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
job if the government.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It was help preservation.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
In other words, this is weird.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Chuck Schumer is being held hostage by the Marxist communists
and socialists in his party, which they did not police
and they allowed to take over their party. Then he's
now holding the American people hostage with a government shut down,
which brings me the big question. Even when we've had
shutdowns in the past, there has been some agreement center like, hey,

(14:05):
certain people should deserve to get paid, those that are
in the military, those badges, like the list is not
that long, but the essential important people that deserve to
get a paycheck. We don't screw with them when they're
protecting to fing this country, can you guys, at least
was there an agreement to pay them?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Really?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Okay, so walk us through that, because I'm assuming that
came up at lunch.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So one of the things I did today is I
sent a letter because under the Constitution members of Congress.
Our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
elected to. So I sent a letter and I've done
this during every shutdown, saying while the government is shut down,

(14:49):
don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
lose my pay when the shutdown is over. I'll get
its just deferred, but it's deferred.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
But a lot of people don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
The long which if I think just asinine and I
have family members work in the federal government, and they're like,
the dumb part about this that I think a lot
of Americans don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss
a paycheck in your calendar year. You just miss a
month and then you get it back data, you get
it back the next time whenever the government does open

(15:30):
back up. And so I know people that are in
the FA for example, and they're like, dude, we just
plan our vacations like great trips around shutdowns because we
know we're still getting paid.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
We save not everybody can do that.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
But like they've almost pre planned for this bonus vacation
and they're going to get paid back.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure
number one, government shutdown is a misnomer. More than eighty
percent of the government will continue to operate. So the
basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going. So
the military, our activity and military like defending the nation

(16:08):
against bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching criminals,
that keeps going, the border patrol and ice that keeps going.
The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you get on
an airplane, the air traffic controllers all go to work.
By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two

(16:32):
weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers, coast guardsmen, military,
the federal government nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
shuts down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut down. Then,

(16:54):
remember Nude Gingrich and the Republican Congress were fighting with
Bill Clinton, we had to shut down for a number
of weeks, and I remember there was a headline that
said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent of their
employees is essential and seventy percent is non essential. I
remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new benchline
all those non essential. That's seventy percent they ought to

(17:17):
be done. But what that means, so what will be
shut down? Starting October one? National parks will be shut down.
So I gotta say, if you were planning to take
your family to Yosemite this weekend, yeah, I'm I'm sorry
to say you're out of luck. Yosemite will be closed.
If you were coming to d C to tour our

(17:38):
nation's capital, you wanted to go to the Smithsonian, go
to the Air and Space Museum, it's the Smithsonian will
be shut down. If you look at things like the
National Institute of Health, like research on cancer, much of
that will be shut down.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
All across that non essential.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
When people were gonna say that seems insane, Why wouldn't
we fix that to make sure when we have these
Shenanigan's happened that that's not affected.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
And I think this shutdown will extend. I think it'll
be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
to protect his own rear end and everything else is
secondary to protecting his own political life, So I think
we will see an extended shutdown.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
So is this polling then?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean, how do you decide when you won or
you lost if you're Schumer, Because this is not about
the country hating Schumer. This is only about New York.
I'm protecting a seat from AOC. So in essence, you
don't care how many people hate you in the country.
It's only a New York thing, is that. I mean, well,
they do polling. I mean this is weird.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah. Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
and I got to say, the Democrats are losing the
messaging battle. It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown.
There was actually exchange right before we had the vote
on the CR to keep the government open, and this
is a clean CR. No riders know nothing. This is
just keep every keep the lights.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
On, status quo.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Schumer stood up and was speaking, and all the Senators
or most of us were standing on the Senate floor,
and Schumer said, look, there's been reference to polling, but
the polling has been biased. It's been right wing polling,
for example, the New York Times. And I got to
tell you, I and every other Republican we just started

(19:27):
cracking up, laughing, and you could see Schumer he actually
turned red, he looked sheepish because he just said on
the Senate floor that the New York Times was a
biased right wing poll.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
And it was a moment where where like Schumer, you
saw Democrats looking at him going, dude, you look like
that's weak. And that's because the New York Times did
a poll if the Democrats don't get everything they want,
should they shut the government down? And sixty five percent
of America and said no, don't shut the government down.
It was a small percentage. It was just over twenty

(20:05):
percent of Americans that said yes, shut the government down.
So that's who the Democrats are responding to. But they've
got Schumer's message is the New York Times is a
right wing mouthpiece, and how dare you tell the American
people that we the Democrats, are shutting the government down.
This is headed to failure. Everyone knows that, every Republican

(20:27):
knows that every Democrat knows that is there an outcome
where Republicans say, okay, great, let's fund healthcare free illegals. No,
the Democrats will give in. Three Democrats voted to fund
the government. What will happen is the government is shut down.
People are gonna get ticked off, people are gonna want
to like use by the way, things like passport services

(20:51):
will be greatly reduced. All sorts of government. Now now listen,
the military keeps going, law enforcement keep going, Social Security
keeps going, Medicare keeps going, Medicaid keeps going. An awful
lot of government keeps going. But the lack of government
being open will be a serious function. And at some
point we will see seven or eight Democrats say enough

(21:12):
is enough, reopen the government. That will happen. But let
me tell you a huge piece that is an X
factor in this, which is Russ Vote, who is the
head of OMB, the Office of Management and Budget works
for the White House. He put out a memo a
week ago that said, if there is a government shutdown,

(21:34):
we are going to lay off federal workers. We're not
going to give them a furlough.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
on preemptive yep, warning you do this, and here's what
we were going to do. And this might be one
of the best moves I've seen politically in a long
time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
watch what happens, because as a lot of people that are
gonna get lose their job, and that's going to be

(22:01):
on you guys for allowing it to happen.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right, So explain all that.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yes, So Russ is a good friend, he's a strong conservative,
he's a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we're
going to react to that. By the White House has
instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a
riff a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink

(22:28):
slips to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who
are advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what
you are going to see in the next few days,
you are going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired.
You're going to see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired.

(22:49):
You're going to see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And
within a couple of days, we're going to see Democrat senators.
They're going to be in their lunches screaming at each
other because this is frankly an excuse for the Trump
administration to do what they wanted to do anyway, which
is get rid of left wing bureaucrats. But they now

(23:10):
have an incredible justification, which is, hey, Congress chose not
to fund them, so instead of giving them a paid vacation,
stay home several weeks and then we'll pay you back
pay and come back to your job. They're gonna even
pick slip and say you're done, you no longer have
a job. And I think that is going to ratchet
up the pressure on Democrats massively.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
So how quickly can these firings take place? How massive
could they be today? And how much research has been
done behind the scenes to get rid of a lot
of these woke bureaucrats that we that we've been wanting
to get rid of, that the presidents wanting to get of,
the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of like
how I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil

(23:54):
kind of like doage did. Let's find the people we
want to get rid of and this is our chance
to do it, and we and by once it's done,
like it's not like he got one from their jobs back,
like it's done.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
you start seeing pink slips. I think we will see
left wing bureaucrats fired today. I think we'll see them
fired tomorrow. You know. This evening, I had dinner with
the Deputy Secretary of HHS who's a longtime friend of mine.

(24:25):
He was actually a groomsm in my wedding. Great guy,
I asked him. I said, okay, the White House asked
every cabinet agency preparing list of people for the riff
and he said, yeah, we're doing that. He said, every agency,
when the White House directs us to do that, we
do that. We're going to see I think hundreds, if
not thousands, of left wing bureaucrats fired in the next

(24:47):
several days. I think that's going to put the Democrat
Party in crisis. And by the way, we're not going
to fire people that are critical for the priorities you
and care you and I care about. So we're not
going to see order patrol agents who are securing the
border fired We're not going to see ICE agents who
are deporting gang bangers fired. We're not going to see

(25:08):
FBI agents who are catching pedophiles, We're not going to
see them fired. We're not going to see soldiers and
sailors and airmen and marines who are keeping this nation safe,
We're not going to see them fired. We're going to
see bureaucrats who are shutting down factories, who are destroying jobs,
who are pursuing radical left wing agendas. They're going to

(25:31):
be the ones fired, and ultimately the Democrats are going
to cave. The only question is how long Schumer wants
to go through this charade before he gives.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
In, which brings me my final question, that is the
media does seem to be covering this a little bit
more with honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today
there was a viral clip that is, the tables have
been turned. Democrats are now literally under fire for a
clip that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the
same ones they're accused of using right now. And here's

(26:04):
what it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December
of twenty eighteen, Donald Trumps President Chuck Schimer Nain's peosi
in the Oval office.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Listen, we do not want to shut down the government
because you can't shut down.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Can me say something, mister President North Dakota and.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
The most Unfortunately, we came in here in good faith
and we're entering into this kind of a discussion in
the public.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Transparency.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I know, it's high transparency when we're not stipulating to
a set of facts.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I mean, you listen to that one. They're like, we're
not in favor of it. And then the speaker also
put out a very interesting yes video montage reminding people
the same thing, like, Hey, you guys think that it's
the Democrats. Mike Johnson putting this out and here he
is and what he said to remind the people about
Democrats in their own words, it is not.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
what we want.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
If the government shuts down, it will be average Americans
who suffer most. A government shutdown means seniors who rely
on Social Security could be thrown into chaos. Families will
be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
It's the service members who will work without a pay
check any It's the firefighters who will be furlough.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
This shut down, you know who's going to feel the pain.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know who it hurts you, everyday people and the
most vulnerable seniors, veterans, working families, hungary kids.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Democrats are signaling that they're ready for a fight this time.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Schumer tells me associated press, Well, things have changed. It
is not normal to shut down the government when we
don't get what we want.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I mean, I love them using AOC's words. I feel
like the media has changed a little bit. Here your
thoughts on.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
That, well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice. I
didn't know. I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I
didn't know who that was. So I appreciate that clarity. Listen,
every single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on
record being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it
all down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are. And

(28:22):
I got to say as I was walking off the
Senate floor, so I voted to fund the government this afternoon.
The Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down.
All the reporters were circling, and their talking point that
they really wanted to press is they said Okay, Cruise.
In twenty thirteen, in the fight over Obamacare, you Ted

(28:45):
Cruz forced to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats
are doing now? And I just started laughing at them,
and I said, look, number one. In twenty thirteen, when
I did a twenty one hour filibuster on the floor,
I was fighting for Americans. I was fighting for American
citizens whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed. And they had skyrocketed

(29:07):
because Obamacare was a train wreck. It was a disaster.
It caused a massive increase in health insurance premiums. It
made the health insurance companies rich, and it made millions
of ordinary Americans unable to afford health insurance. And by
the way, I was also fighting for it at a
time when the House of Representatives that was Republican had

(29:29):
voted to fund the federal government, fund the entirety of
the federal government, but not fund Obamacare, so not fund
the law that was causing damage to American citizens. And
I said, here, what's happening is Chuck Schumer is shutting
down the federal government not to help American citizens who
were getting hurt, but he's shutting down the federal government

(29:51):
in order to help millions of illegal aliens and give
them free health care. And he's willing to shut down
your federal government to give free health care to illegals,
and that fundamentally there's a hypocrisy to it. And I
also said, you know, the reporters were like, isn't it
the same? And I said, listen, let me be clear.

(30:13):
In twenty thirteen, it was Chuck Schumer who shut the
government down. Then I was trying to fund the entirety
of the federal government except for Obamacare, and Chuck Schumer
and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut it all down
because we care so much about socialized medicine. And I
told the reporters we had like fifty reporters standing outside
the Senate Florida. I said, look, none of you guys

(30:35):
reported that. You all blamed the shutdown on me because
you're all left wing hacks. Today, all of you are
still left wing hacks. You agree with the Democrats, But
the facts are so overwhelming. It is Chuck Schumer and
the Democrats who are shutting the government down that even
you dishonest liars are reporting. This is the Schumer shutdown

(30:57):
because the House has funded the government exactly the status quo.
The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow. It is the
Democrats who said let's shut it down, and I think
at the end of the day they're going to lose
that battle. But this is what you got to ask
yourself is how long do the Democrats have to perform

(31:19):
for their crazy left wing activists before they allow the
government to reopen.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
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