October 23, 2025 • 29 mins
1. ICE Tracker Controversy
- The central claim is that Democratic members of Congress, particularly Rep. Robert Garcia, are planning to launch a “master ICE tracker” on the House Oversight Committee’s website.
- The tracker is described as a tool to monitor and publicly expose ICE agents, allegedly using community-submitted information.
- The author argues this amounts to doxxing—publishing personal information to harass or endanger individuals.
2. Historical Context of Attacks on ICE
- The podcast outlines a timeline of incidents from 2018 to 2025 involving:
- Doxxing of ICE agents via platforms like LinkedIn, GitHub, and Twitter.
- Protests and vandalism at ICE facilities.
- Violent attacks, including firebombing, shootings, and threats against ICE personnel and their families.
- Federal indictments against individuals accused of targeting ICE agents.
3. Criticism of Democratic Policies
- Ben accuses Democrats of:
- Encouraging harassment of ICE agents.
- Obstructing justice by undermining immigration enforcement.
- Promoting open borders and selectively enforcing laws.
- The narrative portrays Democrats as radical and dangerous, aligning them with extremist behavior.
4. Defense of Trump Administration
- The latter part of the document shifts focus to Donald Trump’s foreign policy, particularly:
- New sanctions on Russia’s oil companies (Rosneft and Lukoil) in response to the Ukraine war.
- Trump’s canceled meeting with Putin, signaling a tougher stance.
- Support from Congress for escalating economic pressure on Russia.
- The tone is supportive of Trump, emphasizing his “peace through strength” approach and unity among Republicans.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I think it's fair to say the Democrats, and I'm
talking about those that are elected, are officially as unhinged
as the radical extremists in their party, those that are
out there that are unhinged fighting against ice agents for example.
Why would I say that, Well, let's just look at
the list of unhinged things Democrats have been doing. You know,
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just over the last couple of weeks, they shut down
the government, leaving federal workers unpaid, to then demand free
health care to illegal immigrants, and now they've decided to
become even more unhinged. Democratic congress people gathering together with
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local leaders in Los Angeles, and what do they say
they're doing now, Well, this is what they're doing about
ice agents being in LA.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I share this with the mayor.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Over the course of the next couple of weeks, the
Oversight Committee will be launching on their website a mass
sure ice tracker where we can We're going to be
essentially tracking every single instance that we can verify thats
the community will send, you will send us information.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
On that is.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Democratic Congressman Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the House
Oversight Committee, just announced that the committee's Democrats are creating
with your tax dours a master ICE tracker and they
will be placing it on their website to docks ICE agents.
(01:32):
Now you have to ask yourself this question, how dangerous
is this? All right, well, let me just give you
a documented timeline of notable and I want to be clear,
this is not all of them. This is just some
of the notable instances where ICE agents and offices have
been attacked ICE personnel or docks their personal info posts online.
(01:53):
Explicit threats were made towards agents as well, in several
cases even their families. And it is not literally every
single case nationwide. But what it does is I'm giving
you a example, a snapshot of just what ICE agents
are dealing with.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
In fact, I'm going to go back all.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The way to June of twenty eighteen, the Department of
Homeland Security put out an alert about threats to employees
amid the family separation furor that was going on by
the Democrats there claims that these families were getting separated.
It was actually a policy that was put into place
by Barack Obama. No one was outraged then, by the way,
(02:36):
the Department of Owned Security war in its workforce of
a quote heightened threat environment targeting homeland security personnel, which
includes ICE agents that coming from CBS News. Fast forward
to June nineteenth to the twenty second of that month,
mass docsing of ICE employees online.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Again. This is back in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The New York based artist scraped the work site LinkedIn
to compile and publish a data set of one thousand,
six hundred plus people who had listed ICE as their employer. Medium,
GitHub and Twitter remove the posts for violating anti doxing rules.
(03:21):
The list, with names, photos and titles was widely circulated,
including via an Antifa channel, and that's when the threats
got real against sixteen one hundred plus ICE employees. In
June of the same month, Occupy Ice protests surrounded ICE facilities.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This is back in twenty eighteen. In Portland, Oregon and elsewhere.
There were sustained blockades at the Portland ICE building that
prompted repeat law enforcement responses and major safety concerns. While
much of the activity was quote protests, officers documented heraunds,
thrown objects, and vandalisms around their workplace. You go to
(04:05):
the very next year, July thirteenth of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Remember we're in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right now, this is how long the harassment has been
building and the doxing of ICE agents by the left.
You had an actual firebomb attack on ICE Attention Center Intocoma, Washington.
An armed attacker through insidiary devices and tried to ignite
a propane tank at the Northwest Attention Center. Police were
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forced to shoot him. No officers in that attack were
actually injured. In August, a month later in twenty nineteen,
you had shots fired into ICE offices in San Antonio, Texas.
Multiple rounds were fired into ICE office windows. The FBI
called it a targeted attack on federal employees.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Thank goodness, no injuries were reported.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Then in June through septeb of twenty twenty five, so
you can move forward basically five and a half years,
masking policy debates were then tied to doxing threats. Following
a rise in doxing and harassment, more ICE teams conducted
operations wearing masks wine because they were trying to protect
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their identity from this type of harassment and not just harassment,
putting their lives at risk. The worst part was in
the reporting is liberals acted as if it was okay
to docks and advocated for it, saying these individuals were
acting like they were Nazis, the Gestapo, and they deserved
what they got. You then go to June and July
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of this year in Portland, Oregon, at an ICE facility,
you had vandalism, threats made and doxing reports as well.
Local police and DHS public statements described the arrests for vandalism,
including death threats, graffiti outside the building, and efforts to
publish the ice officers personal infameo. One officer even reported
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threatening trash dumped on their lawn with his children at home.
In September of this year, you then had in Dallas, Texas,
the ICE facility that was ambushed, attacked on transport vans
and buildings.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
The FBI and the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Area authorities say the gunman, Joshua John, carried out a
planned ambush style attack aimed specifically at killing ICE agents.
Shots actually struck the transport vehicles and office windows. Federal
briefings em beside the attacker's explicit anti ICE intent. In
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September this year as well, Dallas case details also came out,
and the AP reported the same week describing a rooftop
shooter targeting an ICE Dallas site, noting a detainee was
killed and others injured. Investigator said he intended to terrorize ICE.
This compliment the FBI's accounts and motive of targeting in September.
(07:04):
Later that month, the twenty sixth through the twenty ninth,
there was a federal indictment for doxing of ICE agents.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
In Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
A federal grand jury was forced to charge three radical
activists of the left who allegedly followed an ICE agent
from work to home, live streamed him, and posted his
home address while urging others to come to the location.
The DOJ and the PBS slash ap coverage underscored the
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risk to the agent and his family, And then you
look at the arrests urging swatting of an ICE attorney.
This happening in September of this year. ICE reported the
arrest of a California man who's accused of posting an
ICE attorney's home address and encouraging others to quote swat her,
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an attack tactic that explicitly endangers the attorney in the
family members and terrorizes them at their home.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Residents.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The scary part is this isn't all that has happened
to our ICE agents while Democrats are upping the Anne
and now saying they want to launch a master ICE
tracking site. Now, as I mentioned a moment ago, these
are just some of the horrific attacks and events that
have been happening since twenty eighteen against ICE agents because
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of the radical Left. You go to October of this year,
the Department of Homeland Security had to issue public warnings
on dosing and assaults against ICE and other Department of
Homeland Security personnel. The number of attacks on ICE agents
have gone up more than a thousand percent because of
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the Left implying that it is justifiable to attack, beat,
or even murder ICE agents. The Department of Homeland Security
he was forced to issue statements not only condemning the
massive surgeon dangerous boxing, but also stalking and family targeted
harassment of ICE and Border Patrol agents. They were even
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going after their children, including newborns. All of this highlights
exactly what is happening now because of the radical Left,
whether it's live streaming and following the agents, threats against
their families, putting their addresses up there, going after them.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But even if you bring this up.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
What's even more shocking is how the left is fighting
back on it. I was on CNN just the other
day and meta known as Facebook removed a page tracking
ICE movements amid DOJ pressure, and they lost their ever
loving minds on CNN when I talked about just how
dangerous these pages are, and they were implying that they
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needed to stay up. I want you to listen to
the liberal panel at CNN coming after me for demanding
the ICE agents be protected. If there's a police officer
or an ICE agent whose picture is put up in
a group chat on Facebook that is about ICE and
it says, let's expose this person.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Somebody tell me who he is, where he lives.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Okay, I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think that's not docs.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's definitely you don't think that that's the.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Dosing is when you actually pay somebody's personal identifiable information
p i I, which is an email phone number, or
I'm not saying that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Isn't that I'm saying it's dangerous.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I'm not saying it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
When it comes to these policies.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Is not up to you, and not to mention that
was not a subjective definition.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
If somebody and that's why I'm defending it. This is wrong.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
And just one second, and just give me one second. Okay.
I have been doxed, I have had my personal identifying
information put on the internet. I've had my family's address.
They don't they don't work here at CNN. I put
on the internet. That is not a crime. It's not
a crime. And I'm asking you if you want the
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government to be in a position where anytime that somebody
posts a picture, an address, public information, by the way
of people who are in law enforcement positions, they that
that information gets taken down. That's really the standard that
you want to set.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I will say this, if there was a page on
Facebook tonight that decided to put out all of our
family's information and let's go after these people in media
in a clear way of a threat to any of
our lives, I would.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Say that I would be taken I don't think that makes.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Me think that from a normative perspective. From a normative perspective,
sure we would all want that taken down. But the
question is what should the government be doing. And I
think that you've taken a stand against the government being
involved in taking down COVID misinformation or what you I
just it was outrage.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Then was going on, you're covering it.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
There's a fun I don't understand how you can do that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You condemn it was Meta and Google that he was pressuring,
and we were definitely.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Let me just answer your question, Kristen, and then we
have to go to answer your question. I'll read again.
This is Pam Bondi's tweet. She says, following outreach from
the Justice Department.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You listen to all that and it's very clear that
the left has no problem harassing and doxing ICE agents.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
And by the way, now.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It has become the official line of the Democratic Party.
The top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Robert Garcia,
in his own words, telling you that your tax hours
will be used to have an ICE tracker to track
and dox these agents.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Couple of weeks, the Oversight Committee will be launching on
their website a master ICE tracker where we can We're
going to be essentially tracking every single instance that we
can verify that the community will send you able to
send us information on.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Now, let's just talk about why they want to do this.
What would be the logic behind having a ICE tracker
officially put together by the Democratic Party. Number one, I
think it's because they want to put a very clear
target on the federal agents. They want them to be
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terrified of actually doing their job. The other thing is
they want to endanger their lives. And if there are
other ICE agents that are targeted or shot or murdered,
I think they believe that will help keep more illegal
immigrants in this country. I think there's no doubt about that.
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This is not only putting a clear target on the
federal agents, but it is endangering their lives. It is
also an obstruction of justice, which is the other part
of this what Democrats have been advocating for with the
open borders. The entire policy of the Democratic Party is
they want to get around American laws, and now as
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laws are being enforced, they want to obstruct that justice
by making it even harder, if not almost impossible. That
is their goal here, for Republicans to be able to
use the law enforcement to enforce law and order in America. Remember,
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Donald Trump isn't passing new laws on immigration, He's just
enforcing the laws that are already on the books. And
what Democrats have decided is we don't have to abide
by the laws of the land. We can decide when
we want to use laws and when we want to
break them, when we want to look the other way.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Look no further than that moment.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And I want you to think about the Democratic Party
where they attacked a man that was on a horse
they then claimed was whipping an illegal immigrant. Now, the
picture was a picture that was taken where you couldn't
see the context of them actually using the reins of
a horse to move the horse. There was other pictures
(15:30):
that came out that reinforced this. But did Democrats apologize. Know,
they wanted to demonize border patrol agents that were on horseback.
They wanted them to turn them into racists, and they
wanted to put their lives at risk. This isn't just
a pattern, This is now the playbook of the Democratic Party.
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Anybody they don't like, including presidents or former presidents or
their staff members, they want to lock them up, They
want to bankrupt them, they want to put them in jail,
and if that doesn't work, they want them dead. Why
do you think they keep referring to conservatives as Hitler's
and Nazis? Why do you think they keep saying that
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we are fascists? Why do you think they keep having
rallies that are paid for by democratic elites like the
No King's Day.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That I just described for you is well planned out,
well paid for, and orchestrated by the radical left.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
So just know that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your tax dollars now have now gone to create a
master ICE tracker to track the movements of ICE agents,
putting a target on their back, endangering their lives and
their families' lives and the people that work with them
at the ICE facilities. And it is clearly an obstruction
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It is very clear that President Donald Trump is a
man who is on a mission to have peace through strength,
where every cannon stops senseless wars. We've seen the deal
that he's done in the Middle East, and we now
know that he's turned towards what's happening in Russia and Ukraine. Well,
there has been some late developments and the US has
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announced new sanctions the target Russia's two largest oil companies,
Rosneff and Luke Oil, including many of their subsidiaries. These
sanctions mark the first time in Trump's second term that
his administration has placed new sanctions on Russia over the
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Ukraine War. So much for Russian collusion, as the media
lied to you about for years. The US Treasury, through
the Office of the Foreign Assets Control explicitly said the
move is meant to degrade Russia's ability to fund its
war machine and hurt its economy because if you know
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what's going on in Russia, you know they're barely staying
alive economically because of the oil that they're selling. Now,
the announcement came shortly after a planned meeting between Donald
Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin was canceled, signaling escalating
frustration by the White House and Donald Trump. He meant
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it when he said it was time for peace. Now
Here are the implications and the likely effects of what
the President has just done. The economic pressure on Russia
is real because Russia's war is costing them a lot
of money, and by targeting Russia's biggest oil companies, the
US is going after one of the major revenue resources
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that supports Russia's military and also is propping up its economy,
which is teetering. This could force Russia to either lower
the price of its oil, thus reducing revenue, or reduce
production and exports. Both of those options hurt its financial
stability and their ability to sustain large scale war for
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an extended period of time. Now, there is also pressure
for diplomacy and a ceasefire. The Treasury Secretary's Scott Descent
said the sanctions are meant to support peace efforts, saying quote,
now is the time to stop the killing and for
an immediate ceasefire. So the sanctions are being framed partly
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as a lever for diplomacy, not just punishment. Russia has
deep trade and energy links with major buyers. This includes
India and China, who is taking a significant amount of
their oil that might not be fully impact by the
US sanctions alone. Analysts say, we'll have to wait and see,
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but what we do know is the sanctions depend heavily
on enforcement and also on US allies joining and coordinating
in the sanctioned effort. If other big buyers continue business,
the impact will be weaker than we need it to be,
and there are possible global market side effects as well,
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spikes and all prices if russia supply is constrained. This
is part of the reason why the President said we
need to become energy independent, going back to Drill, Baby Drill.
The fact that this is the first new sanction in
Trump's second term also suggests there may have been internal
or strategic hesitations earlier on to give a chance also
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for there to be real conversations that deal with peace.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
It remains to be.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Seen if the pressure will persist or if Donald Trump
plans on ratcheting up the pressure, which brings me to
the announcement Center. Mullen on the new Russian sanction speaking
with Jake Tapper on CNN, this is what he had
to say about the new move.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Do you think that there needs to be even harsher sanctions?
And the reason I ask is because obviously August fifteenth,
I believe it was, was the summit in Alaska where
President Trump was hoping that Vladimir Putin would agree to
any sort of ceasefire, and not only did he not
get a cease fire, Putin since the US literally rolled
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out the carpet for him in the United States of
America on American land, Putin has upped the tenor of
the war. Some of the worst attacks on Ukraine have
happened since then. And I'm wondering if President Trump you
think needs to be even more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, this is step one. The President and Congress has
talked multiple times what the next step might be. We
have been in briefed or we have been in briefings,
we've been in classified said this is literally the first
step to put more pressure on Russia if we need to,
I believe we probably will. I don't think Putin is
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someone is going to pay attention the first time his
hand has slapped. I think you're going to see this
get ratcheted up farther and farther to the point to
where either we're going to bring them to their knees economically,
or they're going to decide that fighting the Ukraine isn't
worth it. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised
if you start seeing us give the accessibility to new
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weapons for Europe to buy for Ukraine to be able
to fight against Russia and their aggression in Ukraine. As
I said, Jake, this is just the first step. But
this is the first step of a lot of options
we have on the table.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's very clear, as you can hear there from Center
Mullin that this is a new path forward. We tried
to have well diplomacy work, and obviously Vladimir Putin is
not working in that way. So as he described it,
we can bring them to their knees economic or they
can decide that fighting Ukraine isn't worth it. It's the
first step of a lot of options we have on
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the table, and there also seems to be real unity
behind this idea, as you know that senators are behind it.
But what is the House side saying. Mike Johnson on
the Russian sanctions. Here's what he had to say as well.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Now, and thank you so much for being here, Speaker Johnson,
because you had said before that you thought sanctions on
Russia were long overdue.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
In your words, do you think that these moves tonight
go far enough.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Well, it's a very important step.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
We applaud the president. He's returning peace through strength, and
that's a common theme now that we've seen exhibited around
the globe, the strength of his personality. You heard the
UN Secretary General, who you caught earlier this afternoon, he said,
in his own words, President Trump is the only figure
on the planet strong enough to help bring an end
of that war. And you have to compel Russia to
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engage in the peace process. They've shown they cannot be trusted.
There's a big appetite in Congress to have sanctions like this,
and I think it's a very important step.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yet again, you see unity between Republicans and the Senate
Republicans in the House and the President of the United
States of America, which brings us back to what Trump
has now said about these new sanctions. Trump said of
the sanctions, quote, it was time. He described the sanction
on Russia's oil giants as very big and tremendous. During
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a meeting with the NATO Secretary General, he expressed that
the meeting with Putin was canceled because it didn't feel
right to me.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It didn't feel like we were going to get to
the place we have to get.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Earlier this year, Trump threatened tariffs and secondary sanctions if
Russia did not agree to a cease fire. For example,
he said he might impose a twenty five to fifty
percent tariff on oil from Russia on countries buying Russian oil.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Trump also expressed frustration.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
With Vladimir Putin, saying, quote, we get a lot of
bull blank thrown at us by Putin.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
We want a deal, but we weren't seeing it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
The president also has backing the majority of Republicans support
additional economic sanctions on Russia. For example, a recent poll
shows eighty six percent of Republicans back further sanctions to
force an end to the war. Now, some Republicans including
those in the White House, had also delayed pushing for
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sanction legislation until a possible Trump Putin meeting, indicating hesitation
that if they did put the sanctions on beforehand, it
could actually hurt the talks. But now the President has
made it clear there's a shift, and it suggests that
Trump administration is moving or being pushed by conservatives for
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a tougher stance on Russia that perhaps was not there
weeks ago. It also signals to Russia and to buyer
of Russian energy that the US is united and willing
to escalate economic tools, not just diplomacy, and for allies,
the US is implicitly inviting coordination. The Treasury statement, we
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encourage quote our allies to join us, signaling that other
countries may want to do the exact same thing in
their country that America is doing right now. And finally,
for Ukraine, it may increase leverage by pressuring Russia, but
it does not automatically guarantee a cease fire or an
end to the war. When you're dealing with someone like
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Vladimir Putin who doesn't even care about his own people,
this could drag on.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
But for the global energy and trade flow.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Targeting Russia's oil sector, as President Trump has decided to do,
can affect global markets and hurt Russia significantly, which is
exactly why the President of United States of America is
leading in this way.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
We also know that the US will follow up with more.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Sanctions Russian banks, on buyers of Russian energy or shipping
in transport to deepen the pressure. There's a very good
chance that is going to be needed. And then what
will happen to Russian oil buyers like China and India?
How will they respond. What we do know now is
this is a new pathway in negotiations with President Trump
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I think it's fair to say the Democrats, and I'm
talking about those that are elected, are officially as unhinged
as the radical extremists in their party, those that are
out there that are unhinged fighting against ice agents for example.
Why would I say that, Well, let's just look at
the list of unhinged things Democrats have been doing. You know,
(00:22):
just over the last couple of weeks, they shut down
the government, leaving federal workers unpaid, to then demand free
health care to illegal immigrants, and now they've decided to
become even more unhinged. Democratic congress people gathering together with
(00:42):
local leaders in Los Angeles, and what do they say
they're doing now, Well, this is what they're doing about
ice agents being in LA.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I share this with the mayor.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Over the course of the next couple of weeks, the
Oversight Committee will be launching on their website a mass
sure ice tracker where we can We're going to be
essentially tracking every single instance that we can verify thats
the community will send, you will send us information.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
On that is.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Democratic Congressman Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the House
Oversight Committee, just announced that the committee's Democrats are creating
with your tax dours a master ICE tracker and they
will be placing it on their website to docks ICE agents.
(01:32):
Now you have to ask yourself this question, how dangerous
is this? All right, well, let me just give you
a documented timeline of notable and I want to be clear,
this is not all of them. This is just some
of the notable instances where ICE agents and offices have
been attacked ICE personnel or docks their personal info posts online.
(01:53):
Explicit threats were made towards agents as well, in several
cases even their families. And it is not literally every
single case nationwide. But what it does is I'm giving
you a example, a snapshot of just what ICE agents
are dealing with.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
In fact, I'm going to go back all.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The way to June of twenty eighteen, the Department of
Homeland Security put out an alert about threats to employees
amid the family separation furor that was going on by
the Democrats there claims that these families were getting separated.
It was actually a policy that was put into place
by Barack Obama. No one was outraged then, by the way,
(02:36):
the Department of Owned Security war in its workforce of
a quote heightened threat environment targeting homeland security personnel, which
includes ICE agents that coming from CBS News. Fast forward
to June nineteenth to the twenty second of that month,
mass docsing of ICE employees online.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Again. This is back in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The New York based artist scraped the work site LinkedIn
to compile and publish a data set of one thousand,
six hundred plus people who had listed ICE as their employer. Medium,
GitHub and Twitter remove the posts for violating anti doxing rules.
(03:21):
The list, with names, photos and titles was widely circulated,
including via an Antifa channel, and that's when the threats
got real against sixteen one hundred plus ICE employees. In
June of the same month, Occupy Ice protests surrounded ICE facilities.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This is back in twenty eighteen. In Portland, Oregon and elsewhere.
There were sustained blockades at the Portland ICE building that
prompted repeat law enforcement responses and major safety concerns. While
much of the activity was quote protests, officers documented heraunds,
thrown objects, and vandalisms around their workplace. You go to
(04:05):
the very next year, July thirteenth of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Remember we're in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right now, this is how long the harassment has been
building and the doxing of ICE agents by the left.
You had an actual firebomb attack on ICE Attention Center Intocoma, Washington.
An armed attacker through insidiary devices and tried to ignite
a propane tank at the Northwest Attention Center. Police were
(04:32):
forced to shoot him. No officers in that attack were
actually injured. In August, a month later in twenty nineteen,
you had shots fired into ICE offices in San Antonio, Texas.
Multiple rounds were fired into ICE office windows. The FBI
called it a targeted attack on federal employees.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Thank goodness, no injuries were reported.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Then in June through septeb of twenty twenty five, so
you can move forward basically five and a half years,
masking policy debates were then tied to doxing threats. Following
a rise in doxing and harassment, more ICE teams conducted
operations wearing masks wine because they were trying to protect
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their identity from this type of harassment and not just harassment,
putting their lives at risk. The worst part was in
the reporting is liberals acted as if it was okay
to docks and advocated for it, saying these individuals were
acting like they were Nazis, the Gestapo, and they deserved
what they got. You then go to June and July
(05:40):
of this year in Portland, Oregon, at an ICE facility,
you had vandalism, threats made and doxing reports as well.
Local police and DHS public statements described the arrests for vandalism,
including death threats, graffiti outside the building, and efforts to
publish the ice officers personal infameo. One officer even reported
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threatening trash dumped on their lawn with his children at home.
In September of this year, you then had in Dallas, Texas,
the ICE facility that was ambushed, attacked on transport vans
and buildings.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
The FBI and the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Area authorities say the gunman, Joshua John, carried out a
planned ambush style attack aimed specifically at killing ICE agents.
Shots actually struck the transport vehicles and office windows. Federal
briefings em beside the attacker's explicit anti ICE intent. In
(06:40):
September this year as well, Dallas case details also came out,
and the AP reported the same week describing a rooftop
shooter targeting an ICE Dallas site, noting a detainee was
killed and others injured. Investigator said he intended to terrorize ICE.
This compliment the FBI's accounts and motive of targeting in September.
(07:04):
Later that month, the twenty sixth through the twenty ninth,
there was a federal indictment for doxing of ICE agents.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
In Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
A federal grand jury was forced to charge three radical
activists of the left who allegedly followed an ICE agent
from work to home, live streamed him, and posted his
home address while urging others to come to the location.
The DOJ and the PBS slash ap coverage underscored the
(07:35):
risk to the agent and his family, And then you
look at the arrests urging swatting of an ICE attorney.
This happening in September of this year. ICE reported the
arrest of a California man who's accused of posting an
ICE attorney's home address and encouraging others to quote swat her,
(07:56):
an attack tactic that explicitly endangers the attorney in the
family members and terrorizes them at their home.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Residents.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The scary part is this isn't all that has happened
to our ICE agents while Democrats are upping the Anne
and now saying they want to launch a master ICE
tracking site. Now, as I mentioned a moment ago, these
are just some of the horrific attacks and events that
have been happening since twenty eighteen against ICE agents because
(08:29):
of the radical Left. You go to October of this year,
the Department of Homeland Security had to issue public warnings
on dosing and assaults against ICE and other Department of
Homeland Security personnel. The number of attacks on ICE agents
have gone up more than a thousand percent because of
(08:50):
the Left implying that it is justifiable to attack, beat,
or even murder ICE agents. The Department of Homeland Security
he was forced to issue statements not only condemning the
massive surgeon dangerous boxing, but also stalking and family targeted
harassment of ICE and Border Patrol agents. They were even
(09:13):
going after their children, including newborns. All of this highlights
exactly what is happening now because of the radical Left,
whether it's live streaming and following the agents, threats against
their families, putting their addresses up there, going after them.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But even if you bring this up.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
What's even more shocking is how the left is fighting
back on it. I was on CNN just the other
day and meta known as Facebook removed a page tracking
ICE movements amid DOJ pressure, and they lost their ever
loving minds on CNN when I talked about just how
dangerous these pages are, and they were implying that they
(09:56):
needed to stay up. I want you to listen to
the liberal panel at CNN coming after me for demanding
the ICE agents be protected. If there's a police officer
or an ICE agent whose picture is put up in
a group chat on Facebook that is about ICE and
it says, let's expose this person.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Somebody tell me who he is, where he lives.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Okay, I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think that's not docs.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's definitely you don't think that that's the.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Dosing is when you actually pay somebody's personal identifiable information
p i I, which is an email phone number, or
I'm not saying that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Isn't that I'm saying it's dangerous.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I'm not saying it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
When it comes to these policies.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Is not up to you, and not to mention that
was not a subjective definition.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
If somebody and that's why I'm defending it. This is wrong.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
And just one second, and just give me one second. Okay.
I have been doxed, I have had my personal identifying
information put on the internet. I've had my family's address.
They don't they don't work here at CNN. I put
on the internet. That is not a crime. It's not
a crime. And I'm asking you if you want the
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government to be in a position where anytime that somebody
posts a picture, an address, public information, by the way
of people who are in law enforcement positions, they that
that information gets taken down. That's really the standard that
you want to set.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I will say this, if there was a page on
Facebook tonight that decided to put out all of our
family's information and let's go after these people in media
in a clear way of a threat to any of
our lives, I would.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Say that I would be taken I don't think that makes.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Me think that from a normative perspective. From a normative perspective,
sure we would all want that taken down. But the
question is what should the government be doing. And I
think that you've taken a stand against the government being
involved in taking down COVID misinformation or what you I
just it was outrage.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Then was going on, you're covering it.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
There's a fun I don't understand how you can do that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You condemn it was Meta and Google that he was pressuring,
and we were definitely.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Let me just answer your question, Kristen, and then we
have to go to answer your question. I'll read again.
This is Pam Bondi's tweet. She says, following outreach from
the Justice Department.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You listen to all that and it's very clear that
the left has no problem harassing and doxing ICE agents.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
And by the way, now.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It has become the official line of the Democratic Party.
The top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Robert Garcia,
in his own words, telling you that your tax hours
will be used to have an ICE tracker to track
and dox these agents.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Couple of weeks, the Oversight Committee will be launching on
their website a master ICE tracker where we can We're
going to be essentially tracking every single instance that we
can verify that the community will send you able to
send us information on.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Now, let's just talk about why they want to do this.
What would be the logic behind having a ICE tracker
officially put together by the Democratic Party. Number one, I
think it's because they want to put a very clear
target on the federal agents. They want them to be
(13:34):
terrified of actually doing their job. The other thing is
they want to endanger their lives. And if there are
other ICE agents that are targeted or shot or murdered,
I think they believe that will help keep more illegal
immigrants in this country. I think there's no doubt about that.
(13:58):
This is not only putting a clear target on the
federal agents, but it is endangering their lives. It is
also an obstruction of justice, which is the other part
of this what Democrats have been advocating for with the
open borders. The entire policy of the Democratic Party is
they want to get around American laws, and now as
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laws are being enforced, they want to obstruct that justice
by making it even harder, if not almost impossible. That
is their goal here, for Republicans to be able to
use the law enforcement to enforce law and order in America. Remember,
(14:43):
Donald Trump isn't passing new laws on immigration, He's just
enforcing the laws that are already on the books. And
what Democrats have decided is we don't have to abide
by the laws of the land. We can decide when
we want to use laws and when we want to
break them, when we want to look the other way.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Look no further than that moment.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And I want you to think about the Democratic Party
where they attacked a man that was on a horse
they then claimed was whipping an illegal immigrant. Now, the
picture was a picture that was taken where you couldn't
see the context of them actually using the reins of
a horse to move the horse. There was other pictures
(15:30):
that came out that reinforced this. But did Democrats apologize. Know,
they wanted to demonize border patrol agents that were on horseback.
They wanted them to turn them into racists, and they
wanted to put their lives at risk. This isn't just
a pattern, This is now the playbook of the Democratic Party.
(15:53):
Anybody they don't like, including presidents or former presidents or
their staff members, they want to lock them up, They
want to bankrupt them, they want to put them in jail,
and if that doesn't work, they want them dead. Why
do you think they keep referring to conservatives as Hitler's
and Nazis? Why do you think they keep saying that
(16:13):
we are fascists? Why do you think they keep having
rallies that are paid for by democratic elites like the
No King's Day.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That I just described for you is well planned out,
well paid for, and orchestrated by the radical left.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
So just know that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your tax dollars now have now gone to create a
master ICE tracker to track the movements of ICE agents,
putting a target on their back, endangering their lives and
their families' lives and the people that work with them
at the ICE facilities. And it is clearly an obstruction
(16:55):
of justice.
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It is very clear that President Donald Trump is a
man who is on a mission to have peace through strength,
where every cannon stops senseless wars. We've seen the deal
that he's done in the Middle East, and we now
know that he's turned towards what's happening in Russia and Ukraine. Well,
there has been some late developments and the US has
(19:34):
announced new sanctions the target Russia's two largest oil companies,
Rosneff and Luke Oil, including many of their subsidiaries. These
sanctions mark the first time in Trump's second term that
his administration has placed new sanctions on Russia over the
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Ukraine War. So much for Russian collusion, as the media
lied to you about for years. The US Treasury, through
the Office of the Foreign Assets Control explicitly said the
move is meant to degrade Russia's ability to fund its
war machine and hurt its economy because if you know
(20:15):
what's going on in Russia, you know they're barely staying
alive economically because of the oil that they're selling. Now,
the announcement came shortly after a planned meeting between Donald
Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin was canceled, signaling escalating
frustration by the White House and Donald Trump. He meant
(20:37):
it when he said it was time for peace. Now
Here are the implications and the likely effects of what
the President has just done. The economic pressure on Russia
is real because Russia's war is costing them a lot
of money, and by targeting Russia's biggest oil companies, the
US is going after one of the major revenue resources
(20:59):
that supports Russia's military and also is propping up its economy,
which is teetering. This could force Russia to either lower
the price of its oil, thus reducing revenue, or reduce
production and exports. Both of those options hurt its financial
stability and their ability to sustain large scale war for
(21:21):
an extended period of time. Now, there is also pressure
for diplomacy and a ceasefire. The Treasury Secretary's Scott Descent
said the sanctions are meant to support peace efforts, saying quote,
now is the time to stop the killing and for
an immediate ceasefire. So the sanctions are being framed partly
(21:42):
as a lever for diplomacy, not just punishment. Russia has
deep trade and energy links with major buyers. This includes
India and China, who is taking a significant amount of
their oil that might not be fully impact by the
US sanctions alone. Analysts say, we'll have to wait and see,
(22:05):
but what we do know is the sanctions depend heavily
on enforcement and also on US allies joining and coordinating
in the sanctioned effort. If other big buyers continue business,
the impact will be weaker than we need it to be,
and there are possible global market side effects as well,
(22:26):
spikes and all prices if russia supply is constrained. This
is part of the reason why the President said we
need to become energy independent, going back to Drill, Baby Drill.
The fact that this is the first new sanction in
Trump's second term also suggests there may have been internal
or strategic hesitations earlier on to give a chance also
(22:48):
for there to be real conversations that deal with peace.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
It remains to be.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Seen if the pressure will persist or if Donald Trump
plans on ratcheting up the pressure, which brings me to
the announcement Center. Mullen on the new Russian sanction speaking
with Jake Tapper on CNN, this is what he had
to say about the new move.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Do you think that there needs to be even harsher sanctions?
And the reason I ask is because obviously August fifteenth,
I believe it was, was the summit in Alaska where
President Trump was hoping that Vladimir Putin would agree to
any sort of ceasefire, and not only did he not
get a cease fire, Putin since the US literally rolled
(23:33):
out the carpet for him in the United States of
America on American land, Putin has upped the tenor of
the war. Some of the worst attacks on Ukraine have
happened since then. And I'm wondering if President Trump you
think needs to be even more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, this is step one. The President and Congress has
talked multiple times what the next step might be. We
have been in briefed or we have been in briefings,
we've been in classified said this is literally the first
step to put more pressure on Russia if we need to,
I believe we probably will. I don't think Putin is
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someone is going to pay attention the first time his
hand has slapped. I think you're going to see this
get ratcheted up farther and farther to the point to
where either we're going to bring them to their knees economically,
or they're going to decide that fighting the Ukraine isn't
worth it. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised
if you start seeing us give the accessibility to new
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weapons for Europe to buy for Ukraine to be able
to fight against Russia and their aggression in Ukraine. As
I said, Jake, this is just the first step. But
this is the first step of a lot of options
we have on the table.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's very clear, as you can hear there from Center
Mullin that this is a new path forward. We tried
to have well diplomacy work, and obviously Vladimir Putin is
not working in that way. So as he described it,
we can bring them to their knees economic or they
can decide that fighting Ukraine isn't worth it. It's the
first step of a lot of options we have on
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the table, and there also seems to be real unity
behind this idea, as you know that senators are behind it.
But what is the House side saying. Mike Johnson on
the Russian sanctions. Here's what he had to say as well.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Now, and thank you so much for being here, Speaker Johnson,
because you had said before that you thought sanctions on
Russia were long overdue.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
In your words, do you think that these moves tonight
go far enough.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Well, it's a very important step.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
We applaud the president. He's returning peace through strength, and
that's a common theme now that we've seen exhibited around
the globe, the strength of his personality. You heard the
UN Secretary General, who you caught earlier this afternoon, he said,
in his own words, President Trump is the only figure
on the planet strong enough to help bring an end
of that war. And you have to compel Russia to
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engage in the peace process. They've shown they cannot be trusted.
There's a big appetite in Congress to have sanctions like this,
and I think it's a very important step.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yet again, you see unity between Republicans and the Senate
Republicans in the House and the President of the United
States of America, which brings us back to what Trump
has now said about these new sanctions. Trump said of
the sanctions, quote, it was time. He described the sanction
on Russia's oil giants as very big and tremendous. During
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a meeting with the NATO Secretary General, he expressed that
the meeting with Putin was canceled because it didn't feel
right to me.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It didn't feel like we were going to get to
the place we have to get.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Earlier this year, Trump threatened tariffs and secondary sanctions if
Russia did not agree to a cease fire. For example,
he said he might impose a twenty five to fifty
percent tariff on oil from Russia on countries buying Russian oil.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Trump also expressed frustration.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
With Vladimir Putin, saying, quote, we get a lot of
bull blank thrown at us by Putin.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
We want a deal, but we weren't seeing it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
The president also has backing the majority of Republicans support
additional economic sanctions on Russia. For example, a recent poll
shows eighty six percent of Republicans back further sanctions to
force an end to the war. Now, some Republicans including
those in the White House, had also delayed pushing for
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sanction legislation until a possible Trump Putin meeting, indicating hesitation
that if they did put the sanctions on beforehand, it
could actually hurt the talks. But now the President has
made it clear there's a shift, and it suggests that
Trump administration is moving or being pushed by conservatives for
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a tougher stance on Russia that perhaps was not there
weeks ago. It also signals to Russia and to buyer
of Russian energy that the US is united and willing
to escalate economic tools, not just diplomacy, and for allies,
the US is implicitly inviting coordination. The Treasury statement, we
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encourage quote our allies to join us, signaling that other
countries may want to do the exact same thing in
their country that America is doing right now. And finally,
for Ukraine, it may increase leverage by pressuring Russia, but
it does not automatically guarantee a cease fire or an
end to the war. When you're dealing with someone like
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Vladimir Putin who doesn't even care about his own people,
this could drag on.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
But for the global energy and trade flow.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Targeting Russia's oil sector, as President Trump has decided to do,
can affect global markets and hurt Russia significantly, which is
exactly why the President of United States of America is
leading in this way.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
We also know that the US will follow up with more.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Sanctions Russian banks, on buyers of Russian energy or shipping
in transport to deepen the pressure. There's a very good
chance that is going to be needed. And then what
will happen to Russian oil buyers like China and India?
How will they respond. What we do know now is
this is a new pathway in negotiations with President Trump
(29:24):
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