May 21, 2025 • 30 mins
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Accusations of Media Complicity:
- We argue that Jake Tapper and other mainstream journalists were complicit in covering up Biden’s cognitive issues to prevent Donald Trump from winning the 2020 election.
- Tapper is portrayed as sanctimonious and hypocritical for now profiting from a book that discusses Biden’s decline, despite allegedly ignoring or dismissing it when it mattered.
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Criticism of Tapper’s Interviews:
- Tapper’s past interviews, particularly with Lara Trump, are scrutinized. He is accused of mocking or dismissing concerns about Biden’s mental fitness.
- Meghan Kelly confronts Tapper in a recent interview, challenging his narrative and highlighting inconsistencies in his past and present positions.
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Claims of Media Gaslighting:
- The episode includes a montage of media clips that allegedly show journalists praising Biden’s mental acuity while ignoring clear signs of decline.
- It suggests that the media engaged in a coordinated effort to mislead the public.
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Border Security and Immigration:
- The latter part of the document shifts focus to a discussion with Tom Homan (former acting ICE director) and Senator Ted Cruz about border security.
- It criticizes sanctuary cities, the Biden administration’s immigration policies, and calls for accountability, including potential prosecution of former DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We got to start with the big news, and that
is Jake Tapper set down with Meghan Kelly to talk
about this new book. And let me just tell you,
it was hysterical to watch him squirm when Meghan Kelly
nailed him to the wall about his participation and complicity
in the Biden cover up. The same guy now making
(00:24):
money off of a book about the big lie, right,
this massive lie that was told. And it's like, dude,
you were literally a part of it. You shut down
people when they brought up the cognitive decline of Joe Biden,
and you're now trying to act like you're a truth
teller after the guy's.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Already out of office.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm going to play for you longer segments because I
want you to hear this conversation and I want you
to understand something about Jake. And I think this is
the part that you that I do want you to
have context for as you're listening. Jake Tapper is extremely sanctimonious.
When I worked with him for seven years at CNN,
he thank he's some sort of God's gift to journalism,
that he's above reproach, he's better than everybody else, And
(01:05):
when he gets nailed on these issues. He's like, well,
I've already I've already asked for I've already apologized for this,
I've already talked to Laura Trump for the way that
I talked to her on my show. And I'm just
here trying to get out the facts now with my
book original sins like it is just like I could
throw up over the self righteousness in this interview, but
(01:26):
I want you to hear it, because this is how
the media gets away with it. They rewrite history of
what they actually did for years as a state sponsored
media individual and they sold you any lie the White
House see them to sell, and then when the house
comes crashing down, they're like, let's do real reporting now.
So with that being set, take a listen to Megan
(01:47):
Kelly Jake Tapper talking on this issue.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Jake, the criticism has been that you're complaining about a
cover up about Joe Biden's mental acuity that failed. That
right wing pundit saw, the right wing in general saw
that independent media saw and reported on, and that was
no mystery even to left wing and so called mainstream
reporters who were not fooled but chose willful blindness instead
(02:14):
of honest reporting and that you were part of it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
How do you respond.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's a tough and fair question. I would say that
Alex and I after election day interviewed more than two
hundred people, two hundred mostly Democratic insiders, and all these
interviews where almost all of these interviews were after the election,
and they justified to themselves what they had done in
(02:43):
terms of misrepresenting how the president was not just to
me and Alex and other reporters, but also just to
each other and to the world and to Democrats into
the cabinet, etc. By saying that there was this existential
threat of Donald Trump, and only Joe Biden could be
Donald Trump, and that just to fight everything in their minds,
after that existential threat was over, because the election was
(03:05):
over and Donald Trump one they were.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
We found Alex and myself.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Remarkably willing to talk to us, either off the record
or on background or in some cases on the record
about what they saw.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
One of the things that emerged was that there were
two Bidens.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
One was the fine Biden, serviceable, adequate, and the other
one was a non functioning Biden. And that's the one
we saw the night of the debate and that's the
one we saw some clips up here and there that
you just showed, And that non functioning Biden, the one
that lost his train of thought in a significant way,
not in the way just that every human loses their
(03:43):
train of thought, but in a way that shows that
he's having trouble articulating his very views. And the one
who forgot the name of close aids, who was not
able to come up with George Clooney's name, didn't seem
to recognize him. All that sort of thing that functioning
Biden was, according to our reporting, showed up as far
(04:05):
back as twenty fifteen after the death of Bo, where
one top aid said that that tragedy, the loss of
Bo was like watching somebody pour water on sand. That
was the effect on his psyche. And there were other
moments twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. You hear some the her report.
One of the reasons he came to that conclusion was
because of the recordings they heard of Joe Biden in
(04:27):
twenty seventeen talking to his ghostwriter, in which he was
similarly inclined. Obviously, in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, there were
other moments like that. Most of his campaign staff and
others would say that he's Look, he's seventy eight, he's
seventy nine, he has senior moments.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. Well, he wasn't fine.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And throughout his presidency, that non functioning Biden would show
up more and more and more, and he was worse
and worse and worse, really deteriorating tremendously. The next time
the it was a really horrible family incident, which was
when Hunter Biden's plea deal fell apart in the summer
(05:06):
of twenty twenty three, and then obviously in June he
was convicted, and the thought the fear of losing his son,
not to jail, but maybe to another to a relapse,
to an overdose, to a suicide, who knows, was a
very real fear, and.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
The threat of losing a third child.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Really just diminished him tremendously, according to top Ags. So
all of which is to say that this was a deterioration.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
This was a progression.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And look, knowing what I know now, obviously I feel
tremendous humility about my coverage that Laura Trump interviewed, for example,
et cetera. She saw something, she saw something that I
did not see at the time one hundred percent, and
I own that I did ask jobout by.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The way, just pause there.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
This is the sanctimonious Jake Tapper that is just exhausting
to me. He's like, she saw something that at the
time that I did not see. What are you joking?
Everybody saw it. You just didn't want to believe it.
In fact, I don't. There's one thing about Jake Tapper
that I want to be queer about. I actually think
Jake Tapper is extremely smart. I think he's a really
(06:19):
good at lying to you about this one. And the
idea that he didn't see the cognitive decline, it would
mean that he's an incredibly stupid person, because only a
dumb person would not be able to see it. He
saw it, but he didn't want Donald Trump to win,
and so he decided I'm going to look the other way.
And now he's like, well, she saw something that I
didn't see.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like, like, give me a break, Like that is total crap.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Jake Tapper, by the.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Way, way too sanctimonious to actually believe this. And this
is his out right well, it wasn't that I was
covering it up. It's just that I didn't see it, right,
it was just that I didn't notice it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Part No, you noticed it. I don't believe that you didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think you're lying to us, and now you're trying
to profit and make a and sell books off of a.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Lie that you were a part of. Keep listening.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
To be transparent about his health records in an interview
in twenty twenty, I did ask him about the fact
that voters, but then he was I thought that he
was not transparent at all.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Now, he promised you that he would be transparent about
his health records, and then he wasn't. And when you
sat with him again, including one month, including one month
after the Jackie Willorski thing, you didn't ask him about it.
You didn't follow up on the fact that he was
falling up the stairs, that he was losing his train
of thought regularly, that he was slurring, that he was incomprehensible,
that he was getting lost on the White House lawn.
(07:43):
You sat right across from him, and you asked none
of that, notwithstanding the fact that he had promised you
he would be fully transparent about his health issues.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
By the way, this is Megan Kelly, which he just
says exactly what I was saying, Like, you had an
opportunity after you saw this, and you still didn't do
jack crap about it. You saw it all and you
chose not to do it. And then listen to this
BS answer from Jake.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But I did ask him about his age and the
fact that the American people had concluded that even though
he said whenever anybody brought up the subject of his age,
watched me, and I said, yes, they're watching you, and
they are concerned.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
That you get too old for this job.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know as well as I do that.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
There's a way of you can say, hey, there's this
poll on your age, or you could say you just
forgot that Jackie Woolarski was dead.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You asked where she.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her. You
lowered the flags at the White House after she died.
This happened thirteen days before you sat with him. There
is a way of pressing a man like that on
the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and
to the audience. And you didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And you didn't do it, And she's exactly right, And
that's exactly why Jake Tapper deserves this type of criticism
for again now making money off of a book that
he is saying, Oh, well, I didn't see it beforehand.
You didn't see it beforehand, Like, what the hell are
you talking about? You didn't see it before now? I
just didn't see it. I just didn't see it at all.
I had no idea this was going on. And she
(09:17):
saw it before I saw it, referring to Laura Trump,
and so you know, I call and apologize to her.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So everything's good. Now, everything's totally fine.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Now.
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to the point that I think is really important in
this interview, and that is where Meghan Kelly asked Tapper
about his twenty twenty interview with Laura Trump, dismissing her
mentioning Joe Biden's cognitive decline, and Jake's like, well, she
(11:40):
saw something that I didn't see yet, Like, spare me
the crap. You saw it, and you wanted Joe Biden
to win because you're a hardcore lefty and your state
sponsor media, and you didn't want to admit the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And here's part of that back and forth.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Listen, do you want to apologize to Laura Trump?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Now I've already pologized her. I called him months ago.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And what does she say?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, I don't want to disclose the contents of
a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well,
And she said she has said this publicly, so I feel.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Fine sharing it.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
She said that she would never mock anybody stutter, but
I mean, I you know, after we did the research
for this book and I realized how bad his acuity
issues were. Like I mean, I called Laura Trump and
I said, you were you were right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
She was totally right.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's the thing because when I watched that clip, and
I'm giving voice to what a lot of people watching
the show are feeling, Jake, I feel angry because she
was right, and not only did you not allow her
to make her comments, but you seem to try to
humiliate her. You had a hostility toward the position. But
she was totally right, and then you lectured her on
(12:55):
how she was in no position to diagnose cognitive decline,
which you guys do at length, including on page four
of your book. You described at length his cognitive decline,
which is all she tried to do with you. But
you had such a visceral reaction to her. And my
feeling is that's because you didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Now, I mean, if we can, I'm happy to talk
about this. I didn't come here thinking that you weren't
going to ask me about this. I'm happy to talk
to you about it. The first time I saw the
coverage of Laura Trump's comments, which were interpreted as her
mocking Joe Biden. Stutter was in January twenty twenty. I
read it in conservative media. I read it in the
(13:36):
Daily Mail, and that's where I saw that her comments
were being interpreted that way. After those comments were publicized,
it got a lot of coverage, and Sully Sullenberger wrote
an op ed in The New York Times criticizing her
about this. So that's the context for that. That I
(14:01):
was following up on a story that had been out
there months before. This is also in the context of
October twenty twenty, a very intense time. People on the
Biden side are saying crazy things about Trump. People on
the Trump side are saying crazy things about Biden, including
Don Junior suggesting that Joe Biden is a pedophile. So
that is the larger context. But as I said, her
(14:24):
comments have aged well, My comments have aged poorly.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I own that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I own that. So that's your get out of jail
free card.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Now, I own that. I understand that they have not
aged well. No, it's not an issue of aging well, Jake.
It's the issue that you lied to the American people
over and over again, and you trashed anyone. Okay, anyone
who dared ask a basic question like that's the difference here.
(14:57):
If you asked the question about Donald Trump, you were
basically persona and on grown up. By the way, I
was told when I worked at SENA during the time
that I was quote not allowed to bring it up
on the air speculating about Joe Biden's cognitcline, that is,
while I was at CNN. So this idea that this
(15:17):
was somehow a oops here and he owns it. No,
you worked for a network, all right, that said, we
are going to cover it up.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We are not going to cover it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We are going to be quiet, we are going to
be silent, we are going to shut up on this,
which which again goes back to something else I think
is really important, and that is this montage of Jake Tapper.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So you gotta look at what he just said.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So let me play for you this montage Jake Tappers
in it, and also other members of the media as
they made it very clear you cannot go on TV
and even question the president une s America's cognitive declined
Joe Biden, And it's the same Jake Tapper, Now that's
going to tell you, Oh, well, I just didn't see
it as quickly as Laura Trump did. So I wasn't
really trying to lie the American people or mislead you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, I I just wasn't there yet. And that's my fault, your.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the
truth and f you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever he
knows so long as in fact, I think he's better
than he's ever been president.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Biden has a photographic memory, his understanding and mastery of
a complicated geopolitical situation remarkable.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Jackie you here, where's Jackie? I think be here.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I was sitting, you know, a two feet from him
across the.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Table, and he was, you know, intense.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
That trouble walking sometimes, Yeah, so did that be he
wanted gd war?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
But he's totally focused. He's very sharp.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
They say he's sharpened meetings and so on, very lucid will,
very well done for him.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Biden's stately. He comes with gravitas.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single
claim that Biden made a mistake. Agism is an issue
Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical characteristics
against them.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, you can ask African.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
Americans he's older, that doesn't mean that he is unfit.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
And there's a lot of ages in there.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Now, this age attack, this obsession by the right, Joe
Biden may not be able to speak for himself the
way that he used to.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
They want to to take on government if we get
out of line, which they're talking on again about and
him lying around.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think people should be speaking up for Joe Biden.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Americans and reporters in the media are just judging him
by a physical appearance, and it's for the unfair.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Age is an ascent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
He showed exactly how with it he is.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
The flip side of this point is that he has
a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met
with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Now more wild speculation from a bunch of people who
have probably never been in a room with Joe Biden
and certainly don't have medical degrees that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I'm aware of.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
If you don't get paid for performance to be president,
you don't The job is not a job of endurance.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
I don't see Donald Trump out by writing like Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's the Hillary's email.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
All they have is that he's a he can clear
a dementia bar and that's probably a win.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
The media are not fair, and they're getting less and
less fair, and things are frightening. You have Wall Street
Journal running a horribly sourced.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Piece saying that Biden is unfair if.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You'll be as Wall Street General report about the president's acuity.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as
you said.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting, they didn't follow.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Up, they didn't do any work.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
To day is hersh Golbert Poland still he is not
here with this, but he's still being held by a mind.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
But a huge part of the Mulla report talks about
Russian disinformation tactics, and one of the things this election
cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead,
and so everyone is seizing upon this and it is
a classic disinformation tactic. And I think the best thing
that we can do is to prepare the American people
for this false narrative.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
This was part of the cover up of the lie.
They knew that he was a problem, and the media
kept saying, don't believe your lying eyes.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Whatever you do, do not believe.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That he is actually floundering, because there's no way that
Joe Biden could be floundering. His mind is perfect, he
is amazing.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell
you the truth, and few if you can't handle the truth,
this version.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Of Biden is the best Biden ever.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That was a lie. They all knew that it was
a lie. Jake Tapper knew that it was a lie.
And now they're like, all right, we want to redo,
we want to change this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
We want to say we're sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh, and we're gonna missell a book now and we're
gonna make some money off this book. And it's going
to be amazing, and we're really excited about all the
money that we're going to make off of this book.
And we're going to tell you that we're looking backwards
and we're you know, well, I just wasn't there yet.
I didn't see it yet. I don't believe Jake Tapper
is stupid. I don't believe that Jake Tapper is incompetent.
(20:38):
I don't believe that Jake Tapper is an idiot, all right.
I don't believe Jake Tapper's a dumb a. I believe
that Jake Tapper is a very intellectual, very smart individual
that is now lying to you hoping that you're going
to go buy his book and that he's going to
get a get a jail free card for deliberately covering
up that we had a president units It's America that
(20:58):
actually was not running the country.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I want to move on to another big issue, and
that is what's going on with border security. As many
of you know, Senator Ted Cruz and I do a
show together called Verdict with Ted Cruz, and we set
down with Tom Homan and asked him about what's happening
at the border now. We also asked him about sanctuary
cities and the fetnel crisis in this country, as well
as Democrats that are defending at all costs illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Here is part of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You mentioned budget a moment ago, and how important it
is to have the budget for you guys to continue
your job explain for everyone listening, is that referencing that
the big beautiful bill and what is in there that
you need so much to continue to do your job
at the border.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
Well, we want to make the border secure permanently, so
we need more infrastructure, right, so we need to finished
building a wall. Now, let's be clear, every place they
build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug
flall went down. But most important, we'll save love. So
women and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable,
so they go to a place so there's not a
wall on what's waiting on them, the men and women
(22:06):
to the border patrol first of all, So it's ball
saves lives. So we need to finish the border barrier.
We need money to finish the technology within the existing
border wall, because not only did President buy and stop
the construction of the wall, he stopped adding the technology
in that smart wall. Technology that let's just know, on
someone crimes that wall, touch this wall, dig under that wall.
Technology where borbitual agents in the middle of nowhere can
(22:28):
get on the radio and use the wall as a
repeater to talk to other agents for help. There are
some places on the sunn border where they lose all communications,
so all that technology needs to be done, more technology
at port of entries to make sure no ventanot's coming through.
And as far as the entire enforcement, we need beds.
Right now, we got about fifty two thousand people in detention.
(22:49):
We're funder that thirty four thousand ICE is already in
the hole. We need about one hundred thousand beds because
everybody we arrest needs a bed. We just don't rest
somebody in New York City and put them on a plane.
Lead we got came in for several days or several
weeks to get travel doctrines, get flight flight arrangements, flight finances.
So we need beds. So we need you know, so
this budget, that depending budget right now, the Big Beautiful
(23:10):
Bill will give us money for those beds. They're going
to give us thousands of more borbitinacense, thousand more ICE agents.
It's going to give ICE a budget to bring in
more contracts up. What I mean by that badgings and
guns shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing reports of processing.
They shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing travel documents
and all the all the administrative duties that occur within ICE.
(23:34):
You can have a contractor sitting there doing that work.
Give that badging gun, get them out on the street
to arrest the public safety threats and national security threats.
So we need the money to Like I said, we're
doing more than bid did, but Biden wasn't doing anything.
We need to do ten times more than buying it too,
not three times more. And I'll leave you with this.
We got seven hundred thousand illegal amias in this country
with a criminal conviction walking the streets this country. We
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got to get them. We got to get it quickly.
We got one point or man illegal aliens who do
head due process at great taxpayer expense were ordered removed
by a federal judge and didn't leave, and they become fugitives.
We got a lot of work to do, and we
need money to do more. We're doing good, but more
money we have, the more we can do.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Tom, you mentioned finding them all. Let's talk about sanctuary
cities for a second. It's very clear Democrats are not
backing off of that. How dangerous is the policy and
and who is being harbored in these cities that are
refusing to work with you guys?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Will there be accountability?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Are they harboring MS thirteen gang members and domestic terrorists,
foreign terrorists, uh, those that are putting the fetne out
in society. How dangerous are these cities, Well.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
They're theous, the dangerous for everybody because in the sanctuary
city means I don't have access to the jail or
rest a bad guy public safety threat in the safety
and security of the jail were the alien saves the
officers safe on the public safe. When sanctuary cities knowingly
released a public safe a threat back in the street,
it certainly puts the community at risk.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It even puts an alien.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
At risk because anything can happen during the street arrest.
And it great. It puts the officers that great arrest
because now we've got to arrest a criminal alien public
safety threat on his turf. We has access to who
knows what weapons. It's very dangerous and natural host Sanctuary
cities accountable. Its PAM binding has already fought lawsuits against
several were we're working with DJ now again, we want
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we want where's that right, where's that where's that line?
When do you cross that line? You can't sit there
and watch ice do your job, because here's what irritates
me the most. I don't care what party you're in.
If you're an elected mayor, elected city council person, or
elected governor, your number one responsibility it's the safety and
(25:46):
security of your neighborhoods, your communities. ICE has been clear
from the beginning with President Trump, we're going to prioritize
public safety threats and national security threats. Why will you
not help us make your community safer. There's no downside
on that. And the sanctuary cities want to argue what
we're a sanctuary city because we want victims and witnesses
(26:06):
of crime, if they're illegally United States, to feel comfortable
coming to the law enforcement without fear of working with ICE.
That is a bunch of crap. Victims and witnesses of
crime don't want the bad guy in the neighborhood either.
And as far as the illegal alien community, I'll say this,
despite being here illegally, many of them are god fearing
family people. They don't want a preteror in the neighborhood either.
(26:30):
They don't want someone convicted DUI ten times driving to
their neighborhood either. So you know, if you go to
the immigrant community and ask them one simple question, would
you rather have ICE operating in the jail or in
your community? What do you think they're going to say.
They're going to be saying to jail so sanctuarou cities
will be held accountable. Matter of fact, we're reissuing the
ICE detainer. We just changed the new ICE detainer. We're
letting them black and white. Let them know this person
(26:51):
is a designated terrorist, this person is a designated returned felon.
We're gonna let them know exactly who do we detaining
based on biographic and by METOK information and see what
they do. Are they going to violate Relates Riley Act?
Then we'll go out to prosecution. Are they're going to
know me least or terrorists? Then we're going to go
out to prosecution. So it's about to get a lot
(27:12):
tougher and it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I want to go back to accountability for a second time,
and I want to ask you there are a lot
of people that believe that there were laws that were
broken deliberately in the last administration. They knew they were
breaking the law. One of those would be former Homeland
Security Secretary. My orc is that you mentioned a moment ago.
Should he be criminally prosecuted for his role in the
border crisis if it was as deliberate as it now seems.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Look, I think what he did was borderline trees in
this I'm not an attorney, I'm not a prosecutor. But
what he did, he did more damage to this country.
Him and the Biden administration and what they did to
this country. I can tell you when they open that
border up, sex trafficking women show to increase tenfold of
a record number of migrants died making that journey, over
(28:00):
four thousand, A record number of Americans died from fatanah
that come across that open border. And and it's just
what he what he calls this country and from a
national securities perspective, because here's what his orders were, process quick,
release quick. They didn't care about the crisis. They cared
about the octaves of the crisis. If there's no overcrowding,
(28:21):
there's nothing to see here. So border trades were processed
as quick as they could and released a quick as
they could. And there's been several instances where they released
so quickly the FBI scan didn't come back, and they
came back hot. Actually they already been released, they came
back hot as a non spectatorian. So yeah, what he
did was uncomfortable. What he did is my opinion borderline treason.
(28:45):
Is he should be held accountable because a lot of
deaths occurred under his watch and a like Sandra cru
said a few minutes ago, right now, ninety six percent
decline and illego immigration when ninety six percent unless people
are coming, how many women are being rape? How many
children aren't dying crossing a border. How many no inspected
taists aren't getting in the country. How many pounds of
(29:06):
fatanyl is not getting a country? What are you going
to see on the President Trump's administration Faentanyl deaths of decrease,
sex trafficking with decrease, smuggling with decrease, and no inspected tars.
They got no open n anymore. Now that we got
the board secure, every single borders, religion is on the line.
On patrol. During his National Security duty under Joe Biden,
(29:26):
it was an average most days, an average seventy percent
seven zero seventy percent of agents were no longer on patrol.
They were changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs.
The last time, aren't down there before the election. I
talked to hundreds of board plays told me to hang on,
hang on, change his trimic. I really think President Trump's
going to win. But they told me no, we're sick
(29:47):
of being tour station. We're sick of being uber drivers.
We process and delivered these people, that is the very
same people who pay for their smuggling. They couldn't recruit.
They couldn't people were quitting. They were quitting before the
even well for retirement. They could read the recruiting numbers.
You know, last month, Ice I'm excusing Borbital had the
highest recruiting numbers and the history of that ABP, just
(30:11):
last month.
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Speaker 2 (30:19):
We'll see you back here tomorrow.
We got to start with the big news, and that
is Jake Tapper set down with Meghan Kelly to talk
about this new book. And let me just tell you,
it was hysterical to watch him squirm when Meghan Kelly
nailed him to the wall about his participation and complicity
in the Biden cover up. The same guy now making
(00:24):
money off of a book about the big lie, right,
this massive lie that was told. And it's like, dude,
you were literally a part of it. You shut down
people when they brought up the cognitive decline of Joe Biden,
and you're now trying to act like you're a truth
teller after the guy's.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Already out of office.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm going to play for you longer segments because I
want you to hear this conversation and I want you
to understand something about Jake. And I think this is
the part that you that I do want you to
have context for as you're listening. Jake Tapper is extremely sanctimonious.
When I worked with him for seven years at CNN,
he thank he's some sort of God's gift to journalism,
that he's above reproach, he's better than everybody else, And
(01:05):
when he gets nailed on these issues. He's like, well,
I've already I've already asked for I've already apologized for this,
I've already talked to Laura Trump for the way that
I talked to her on my show. And I'm just
here trying to get out the facts now with my
book original sins like it is just like I could
throw up over the self righteousness in this interview, but
(01:26):
I want you to hear it, because this is how
the media gets away with it. They rewrite history of
what they actually did for years as a state sponsored
media individual and they sold you any lie the White
House see them to sell, and then when the house
comes crashing down, they're like, let's do real reporting now.
So with that being set, take a listen to Megan
(01:47):
Kelly Jake Tapper talking on this issue.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Jake, the criticism has been that you're complaining about a
cover up about Joe Biden's mental acuity that failed. That
right wing pundit saw, the right wing in general saw
that independent media saw and reported on, and that was
no mystery even to left wing and so called mainstream
reporters who were not fooled but chose willful blindness instead
(02:14):
of honest reporting and that you were part of it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
How do you respond.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's a tough and fair question. I would say that
Alex and I after election day interviewed more than two
hundred people, two hundred mostly Democratic insiders, and all these
interviews where almost all of these interviews were after the election,
and they justified to themselves what they had done in
(02:43):
terms of misrepresenting how the president was not just to
me and Alex and other reporters, but also just to
each other and to the world and to Democrats into
the cabinet, etc. By saying that there was this existential
threat of Donald Trump, and only Joe Biden could be
Donald Trump, and that just to fight everything in their minds,
after that existential threat was over, because the election was
(03:05):
over and Donald Trump one they were.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
We found Alex and myself.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Remarkably willing to talk to us, either off the record
or on background or in some cases on the record
about what they saw.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
One of the things that emerged was that there were
two Bidens.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
One was the fine Biden, serviceable, adequate, and the other
one was a non functioning Biden. And that's the one
we saw the night of the debate and that's the
one we saw some clips up here and there that
you just showed, And that non functioning Biden, the one
that lost his train of thought in a significant way,
not in the way just that every human loses their
(03:43):
train of thought, but in a way that shows that
he's having trouble articulating his very views. And the one
who forgot the name of close aids, who was not
able to come up with George Clooney's name, didn't seem
to recognize him. All that sort of thing that functioning
Biden was, according to our reporting, showed up as far
(04:05):
back as twenty fifteen after the death of Bo, where
one top aid said that that tragedy, the loss of
Bo was like watching somebody pour water on sand. That
was the effect on his psyche. And there were other
moments twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. You hear some the her report.
One of the reasons he came to that conclusion was
because of the recordings they heard of Joe Biden in
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twenty seventeen talking to his ghostwriter, in which he was
similarly inclined. Obviously, in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, there were
other moments like that. Most of his campaign staff and
others would say that he's Look, he's seventy eight, he's
seventy nine, he has senior moments.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. Well, he wasn't fine.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And throughout his presidency, that non functioning Biden would show
up more and more and more, and he was worse
and worse and worse, really deteriorating tremendously. The next time
the it was a really horrible family incident, which was
when Hunter Biden's plea deal fell apart in the summer
(05:06):
of twenty twenty three, and then obviously in June he
was convicted, and the thought the fear of losing his son,
not to jail, but maybe to another to a relapse,
to an overdose, to a suicide, who knows, was a
very real fear, and.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
The threat of losing a third child.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Really just diminished him tremendously, according to top Ags. So
all of which is to say that this was a deterioration.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
This was a progression.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And look, knowing what I know now, obviously I feel
tremendous humility about my coverage that Laura Trump interviewed, for example,
et cetera. She saw something, she saw something that I
did not see at the time one hundred percent, and
I own that I did ask jobout by.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The way, just pause there.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
This is the sanctimonious Jake Tapper that is just exhausting
to me. He's like, she saw something that at the
time that I did not see. What are you joking?
Everybody saw it. You just didn't want to believe it.
In fact, I don't. There's one thing about Jake Tapper
that I want to be queer about. I actually think
Jake Tapper is extremely smart. I think he's a really
(06:19):
good at lying to you about this one. And the
idea that he didn't see the cognitive decline, it would
mean that he's an incredibly stupid person, because only a
dumb person would not be able to see it. He
saw it, but he didn't want Donald Trump to win,
and so he decided I'm going to look the other way.
And now he's like, well, she saw something that I
didn't see.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Like, like, give me a break, Like that is total crap.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Jake Tapper, by the.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Way, way too sanctimonious to actually believe this. And this
is his out right well, it wasn't that I was
covering it up. It's just that I didn't see it, right,
it was just that I didn't notice it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Part No, you noticed it. I don't believe that you didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think you're lying to us, and now you're trying
to profit and make a and sell books off of a.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Lie that you were a part of. Keep listening.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
To be transparent about his health records in an interview
in twenty twenty, I did ask him about the fact
that voters, but then he was I thought that he
was not transparent at all.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Now, he promised you that he would be transparent about
his health records, and then he wasn't. And when you
sat with him again, including one month, including one month
after the Jackie Willorski thing, you didn't ask him about it.
You didn't follow up on the fact that he was
falling up the stairs, that he was losing his train
of thought regularly, that he was slurring, that he was incomprehensible,
that he was getting lost on the White House lawn.
(07:43):
You sat right across from him, and you asked none
of that, notwithstanding the fact that he had promised you
he would be fully transparent about his health issues.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
By the way, this is Megan Kelly, which he just
says exactly what I was saying, Like, you had an
opportunity after you saw this, and you still didn't do
jack crap about it. You saw it all and you
chose not to do it. And then listen to this
BS answer from Jake.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But I did ask him about his age and the
fact that the American people had concluded that even though
he said whenever anybody brought up the subject of his age,
watched me, and I said, yes, they're watching you, and
they are concerned.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
That you get too old for this job.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know as well as I do that.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
There's a way of you can say, hey, there's this
poll on your age, or you could say you just
forgot that Jackie Woolarski was dead.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You asked where she.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her. You
lowered the flags at the White House after she died.
This happened thirteen days before you sat with him. There
is a way of pressing a man like that on
the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and
to the audience. And you didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And you didn't do it, And she's exactly right, And
that's exactly why Jake Tapper deserves this type of criticism
for again now making money off of a book that
he is saying, Oh, well, I didn't see it beforehand.
You didn't see it beforehand, Like, what the hell are
you talking about? You didn't see it before now? I
just didn't see it. I just didn't see it at all.
I had no idea this was going on. And she
(09:17):
saw it before I saw it, referring to Laura Trump,
and so you know, I call and apologize to her.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
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Speaker 1 (09:25):
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to the point that I think is really important in
this interview, and that is where Meghan Kelly asked Tapper
about his twenty twenty interview with Laura Trump, dismissing her
mentioning Joe Biden's cognitive decline, and Jake's like, well, she
(11:40):
saw something that I didn't see yet, Like, spare me
the crap. You saw it, and you wanted Joe Biden
to win because you're a hardcore lefty and your state
sponsor media, and you didn't want to admit the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And here's part of that back and forth.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Listen, do you want to apologize to Laura Trump?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Now I've already pologized her. I called him months ago.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And what does she say?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, I don't want to disclose the contents of
a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well,
And she said she has said this publicly, so I feel.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Fine sharing it.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
She said that she would never mock anybody stutter, but
I mean, I you know, after we did the research
for this book and I realized how bad his acuity
issues were. Like I mean, I called Laura Trump and
I said, you were you were right.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
She was totally right.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's the thing because when I watched that clip, and
I'm giving voice to what a lot of people watching
the show are feeling, Jake, I feel angry because she
was right, and not only did you not allow her
to make her comments, but you seem to try to
humiliate her. You had a hostility toward the position. But
she was totally right, and then you lectured her on
(12:55):
how she was in no position to diagnose cognitive decline,
which you guys do at length, including on page four
of your book. You described at length his cognitive decline,
which is all she tried to do with you. But
you had such a visceral reaction to her. And my
feeling is that's because you didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Now, I mean, if we can, I'm happy to talk
about this. I didn't come here thinking that you weren't
going to ask me about this. I'm happy to talk
to you about it. The first time I saw the
coverage of Laura Trump's comments, which were interpreted as her
mocking Joe Biden. Stutter was in January twenty twenty. I
read it in conservative media. I read it in the
(13:36):
Daily Mail, and that's where I saw that her comments
were being interpreted that way. After those comments were publicized,
it got a lot of coverage, and Sully Sullenberger wrote
an op ed in The New York Times criticizing her
about this. So that's the context for that. That I
(14:01):
was following up on a story that had been out
there months before. This is also in the context of
October twenty twenty, a very intense time. People on the
Biden side are saying crazy things about Trump. People on
the Trump side are saying crazy things about Biden, including
Don Junior suggesting that Joe Biden is a pedophile. So
that is the larger context. But as I said, her
(14:24):
comments have aged well, My comments have aged poorly.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I own that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I own that. So that's your get out of jail
free card.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Now, I own that. I understand that they have not
aged well. No, it's not an issue of aging well, Jake.
It's the issue that you lied to the American people
over and over again, and you trashed anyone. Okay, anyone
who dared ask a basic question like that's the difference here.
(14:57):
If you asked the question about Donald Trump, you were
basically persona and on grown up. By the way, I
was told when I worked at SENA during the time
that I was quote not allowed to bring it up
on the air speculating about Joe Biden's cognitcline, that is,
while I was at CNN. So this idea that this
(15:17):
was somehow a oops here and he owns it. No,
you worked for a network, all right, that said, we
are going to cover it up.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We are not going to cover it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We are going to be quiet, we are going to
be silent, we are going to shut up on this,
which which again goes back to something else I think
is really important, and that is this montage of Jake Tapper.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So you gotta look at what he just said.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So let me play for you this montage Jake Tappers
in it, and also other members of the media as
they made it very clear you cannot go on TV
and even question the president une s America's cognitive declined
Joe Biden, And it's the same Jake Tapper, Now that's
going to tell you, Oh, well, I just didn't see
it as quickly as Laura Trump did. So I wasn't
really trying to lie the American people or mislead you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, I I just wasn't there yet. And that's my fault, your.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the
truth and f you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever he
knows so long as in fact, I think he's better
than he's ever been president.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Biden has a photographic memory, his understanding and mastery of
a complicated geopolitical situation remarkable.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Jackie you here, where's Jackie? I think be here.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I was sitting, you know, a two feet from him
across the.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Table, and he was, you know, intense.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
That trouble walking sometimes, Yeah, so did that be he
wanted gd war?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
But he's totally focused. He's very sharp.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
They say he's sharpened meetings and so on, very lucid will,
very well done for him.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Biden's stately. He comes with gravitas.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single
claim that Biden made a mistake. Agism is an issue
Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical characteristics
against them.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Okay, you can ask African.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
Americans he's older, that doesn't mean that he is unfit.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
And there's a lot of ages in there.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Now, this age attack, this obsession by the right, Joe
Biden may not be able to speak for himself the
way that he used to.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
They want to to take on government if we get
out of line, which they're talking on again about and
him lying around.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think people should be speaking up for Joe Biden.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Americans and reporters in the media are just judging him
by a physical appearance, and it's for the unfair.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Age is an ascent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
He showed exactly how with it he is.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
The flip side of this point is that he has
a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met
with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Now more wild speculation from a bunch of people who
have probably never been in a room with Joe Biden
and certainly don't have medical degrees that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I'm aware of.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
If you don't get paid for performance to be president,
you don't The job is not a job of endurance.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
I don't see Donald Trump out by writing like Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's the Hillary's email.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
All they have is that he's a he can clear
a dementia bar and that's probably a win.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
The media are not fair, and they're getting less and
less fair, and things are frightening. You have Wall Street
Journal running a horribly sourced.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Piece saying that Biden is unfair if.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You'll be as Wall Street General report about the president's acuity.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as
you said.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting, they didn't follow.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Up, they didn't do any work.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
To day is hersh Golbert Poland still he is not
here with this, but he's still being held by a mind.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
But a huge part of the Mulla report talks about
Russian disinformation tactics, and one of the things this election
cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead,
and so everyone is seizing upon this and it is
a classic disinformation tactic. And I think the best thing
that we can do is to prepare the American people
for this false narrative.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
This was part of the cover up of the lie.
They knew that he was a problem, and the media
kept saying, don't believe your lying eyes.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Whatever you do, do not believe.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
That he is actually floundering, because there's no way that
Joe Biden could be floundering. His mind is perfect, he
is amazing.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell
you the truth, and few if you can't handle the truth,
this version.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Of Biden is the best Biden ever.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That was a lie. They all knew that it was
a lie. Jake Tapper knew that it was a lie.
And now they're like, all right, we want to redo,
we want to change this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
We want to say we're sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh, and we're gonna missell a book now and we're
gonna make some money off this book. And it's going
to be amazing, and we're really excited about all the
money that we're going to make off of this book.
And we're going to tell you that we're looking backwards
and we're you know, well, I just wasn't there yet.
I didn't see it yet. I don't believe Jake Tapper
is stupid. I don't believe that Jake Tapper is incompetent.
(20:38):
I don't believe that Jake Tapper is an idiot, all right.
I don't believe Jake Tapper's a dumb a. I believe
that Jake Tapper is a very intellectual, very smart individual
that is now lying to you hoping that you're going
to go buy his book and that he's going to
get a get a jail free card for deliberately covering
up that we had a president units It's America that
(20:58):
actually was not running the country.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I want to move on to another big issue, and
that is what's going on with border security. As many
of you know, Senator Ted Cruz and I do a
show together called Verdict with Ted Cruz, and we set
down with Tom Homan and asked him about what's happening
at the border now. We also asked him about sanctuary
cities and the fetnel crisis in this country, as well
as Democrats that are defending at all costs illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Here is part of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You mentioned budget a moment ago, and how important it
is to have the budget for you guys to continue
your job explain for everyone listening, is that referencing that
the big beautiful bill and what is in there that
you need so much to continue to do your job
at the border.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
Well, we want to make the border secure permanently, so
we need more infrastructure, right, so we need to finished
building a wall. Now, let's be clear, every place they
build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug
flall went down. But most important, we'll save love. So
women and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable,
so they go to a place so there's not a
wall on what's waiting on them, the men and women
(22:06):
to the border patrol first of all, So it's ball
saves lives. So we need to finish the border barrier.
We need money to finish the technology within the existing
border wall, because not only did President buy and stop
the construction of the wall, he stopped adding the technology
in that smart wall. Technology that let's just know, on
someone crimes that wall, touch this wall, dig under that wall.
Technology where borbitual agents in the middle of nowhere can
(22:28):
get on the radio and use the wall as a
repeater to talk to other agents for help. There are
some places on the sunn border where they lose all communications,
so all that technology needs to be done, more technology
at port of entries to make sure no ventanot's coming through.
And as far as the entire enforcement, we need beds.
Right now, we got about fifty two thousand people in detention.
(22:49):
We're funder that thirty four thousand ICE is already in
the hole. We need about one hundred thousand beds because
everybody we arrest needs a bed. We just don't rest
somebody in New York City and put them on a plane.
Lead we got came in for several days or several
weeks to get travel doctrines, get flight flight arrangements, flight finances.
So we need beds. So we need you know, so
this budget, that depending budget right now, the Big Beautiful
(23:10):
Bill will give us money for those beds. They're going
to give us thousands of more borbitinacense, thousand more ICE agents.
It's going to give ICE a budget to bring in
more contracts up. What I mean by that badgings and
guns shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing reports of processing.
They shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing travel documents
and all the all the administrative duties that occur within ICE.
(23:34):
You can have a contractor sitting there doing that work.
Give that badging gun, get them out on the street
to arrest the public safety threats and national security threats.
So we need the money to Like I said, we're
doing more than bid did, but Biden wasn't doing anything.
We need to do ten times more than buying it too,
not three times more. And I'll leave you with this.
We got seven hundred thousand illegal amias in this country
with a criminal conviction walking the streets this country. We
(23:56):
got to get them. We got to get it quickly.
We got one point or man illegal aliens who do
head due process at great taxpayer expense were ordered removed
by a federal judge and didn't leave, and they become fugitives.
We got a lot of work to do, and we
need money to do more. We're doing good, but more
money we have, the more we can do.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Tom, you mentioned finding them all. Let's talk about sanctuary
cities for a second. It's very clear Democrats are not
backing off of that. How dangerous is the policy and
and who is being harbored in these cities that are
refusing to work with you guys?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Will there be accountability?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Are they harboring MS thirteen gang members and domestic terrorists,
foreign terrorists, uh, those that are putting the fetne out
in society. How dangerous are these cities, Well.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
They're theous, the dangerous for everybody because in the sanctuary
city means I don't have access to the jail or
rest a bad guy public safety threat in the safety
and security of the jail were the alien saves the
officers safe on the public safe. When sanctuary cities knowingly
released a public safe a threat back in the street,
it certainly puts the community at risk.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It even puts an alien.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
At risk because anything can happen during the street arrest.
And it great. It puts the officers that great arrest
because now we've got to arrest a criminal alien public
safety threat on his turf. We has access to who
knows what weapons. It's very dangerous and natural host Sanctuary
cities accountable. Its PAM binding has already fought lawsuits against
several were we're working with DJ now again, we want
(25:26):
we want where's that right, where's that where's that line?
When do you cross that line? You can't sit there
and watch ice do your job, because here's what irritates
me the most. I don't care what party you're in.
If you're an elected mayor, elected city council person, or
elected governor, your number one responsibility it's the safety and
(25:46):
security of your neighborhoods, your communities. ICE has been clear
from the beginning with President Trump, we're going to prioritize
public safety threats and national security threats. Why will you
not help us make your community safer. There's no downside
on that. And the sanctuary cities want to argue what
we're a sanctuary city because we want victims and witnesses
(26:06):
of crime, if they're illegally United States, to feel comfortable
coming to the law enforcement without fear of working with ICE.
That is a bunch of crap. Victims and witnesses of
crime don't want the bad guy in the neighborhood either.
And as far as the illegal alien community, I'll say this,
despite being here illegally, many of them are god fearing
family people. They don't want a preteror in the neighborhood either.
(26:30):
They don't want someone convicted DUI ten times driving to
their neighborhood either. So you know, if you go to
the immigrant community and ask them one simple question, would
you rather have ICE operating in the jail or in
your community? What do you think they're going to say.
They're going to be saying to jail so sanctuarou cities
will be held accountable. Matter of fact, we're reissuing the
ICE detainer. We just changed the new ICE detainer. We're
letting them black and white. Let them know this person
(26:51):
is a designated terrorist, this person is a designated returned felon.
We're gonna let them know exactly who do we detaining
based on biographic and by METOK information and see what
they do. Are they going to violate Relates Riley Act?
Then we'll go out to prosecution. Are they're going to
know me least or terrorists? Then we're going to go
out to prosecution. So it's about to get a lot
(27:12):
tougher and it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I want to go back to accountability for a second time,
and I want to ask you there are a lot
of people that believe that there were laws that were
broken deliberately in the last administration. They knew they were
breaking the law. One of those would be former Homeland
Security Secretary. My orc is that you mentioned a moment ago.
Should he be criminally prosecuted for his role in the
border crisis if it was as deliberate as it now seems.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Look, I think what he did was borderline trees in
this I'm not an attorney, I'm not a prosecutor. But
what he did, he did more damage to this country.
Him and the Biden administration and what they did to
this country. I can tell you when they open that
border up, sex trafficking women show to increase tenfold of
a record number of migrants died making that journey, over
(28:00):
four thousand, A record number of Americans died from fatanah
that come across that open border. And and it's just
what he what he calls this country and from a
national securities perspective, because here's what his orders were, process quick,
release quick. They didn't care about the crisis. They cared
about the octaves of the crisis. If there's no overcrowding,
(28:21):
there's nothing to see here. So border trades were processed
as quick as they could and released a quick as
they could. And there's been several instances where they released
so quickly the FBI scan didn't come back, and they
came back hot. Actually they already been released, they came
back hot as a non spectatorian. So yeah, what he
did was uncomfortable. What he did is my opinion borderline treason.
(28:45):
Is he should be held accountable because a lot of
deaths occurred under his watch and a like Sandra cru
said a few minutes ago, right now, ninety six percent
decline and illego immigration when ninety six percent unless people
are coming, how many women are being rape? How many
children aren't dying crossing a border. How many no inspected
taists aren't getting in the country. How many pounds of
(29:06):
fatanyl is not getting a country? What are you going
to see on the President Trump's administration Faentanyl deaths of decrease,
sex trafficking with decrease, smuggling with decrease, and no inspected tars.
They got no open n anymore. Now that we got
the board secure, every single borders, religion is on the line.
On patrol. During his National Security duty under Joe Biden,
(29:26):
it was an average most days, an average seventy percent
seven zero seventy percent of agents were no longer on patrol.
They were changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs.
The last time, aren't down there before the election. I
talked to hundreds of board plays told me to hang on,
hang on, change his trimic. I really think President Trump's
going to win. But they told me no, we're sick
(29:47):
of being tour station. We're sick of being uber drivers.
We process and delivered these people, that is the very
same people who pay for their smuggling. They couldn't recruit.
They couldn't people were quitting. They were quitting before the
even well for retirement. They could read the recruiting numbers.
You know, last month, Ice I'm excusing Borbital had the
highest recruiting numbers and the history of that ABP, just
(30:11):
last month.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
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Speaker 2 (30:19):
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