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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the Ben Ferguson Podcasts, and I am under
the weather, sick as a dog. And Senator Cruz and
I did our podcast together as a joint podcast as
we've still got a country to save and we still
got to fight. But I am really under the weather.
So I want to let you know that on the
front end as we decide to do a joint pod
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for you this morning. Take a listen, as we're going
to be talking about several different issues, including deportations and
Zelensky coming to America in a campaign for Kamway. Harris,
how is that not a major violation of campaign finance laws?
Plus President community now becoming a big issue in Washington
with hearings on Capitol Hill. No, why Senator you're beating
(00:46):
me today. You're somewhat under the weather. But I think
you've got more energy than I do. Well, I think
that's probably right. But but but hopefully neither of us
cough cough up along and we can wait. We can
talk about the great things that that that that are
happening in this country that are really threatening our nation,
and that gives you reason to fight even when you
may not feel great. Amen to that We've got a
(01:09):
very interesting subject that has popped up, and that deals
with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, that's right, Kamala's radical past keeps coming back to
haunt her. She's trying to run a presidential campaign pretending
not to be a radical leftist, and the problem is
truth keeps getting in the way. We now have video
and audio of her at a rally chanting down with
deportation and amazingly doing it right next to discredited hustler
(01:40):
Jesse Smolette, and they're chatting with the whole mob. Up
with education, down with deportation. It's really quite remarkable. We're
going to talk about that. We're also going to talk
about a story unlike any I've ever seen before, which
is Ukraine's president Zelenski, came to Pennsylvania and is essentially
campaigning for Kamala Harris and he's attacking Donald Trump and JD.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Vance.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It is shocking. I do not recall ever seeing a
foreign leader do this. It's infuriating. We're going to talk
about that too. And finally, we're going to talk about
a hearing yesterday in the Senate Judiciary Committee where the
Senate Democrats once again are attacking the US Supreme Court,
and this hearing was all about the Supreme Court's decision
on presidential immunity, and they're trying to wrongly convince the
voters that it's some sort of outrageous decision that allows
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Trump to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That is a lie.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
We're going to talk about that hearing and what the
actual truth is.
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Speaker 1 (04:48):
So Center if you go back.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And it's amazing how many of these videos start to
surface here. Uh, and the media clearly isn't doing their job.
You've got this video and it's Kamala Harris. She's straight
up out there, she's very proud of it, shouting she's down,
she's not down with deportations at this rally. And when
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you see this resurface video of her protesting against deporting
migrants with a disgraced celebrity, you go, man, I wonder
how long the media had this and they decide to
sit on it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well clearly that they don't want people to see it,
and and and give a listen. You need to listen
to what Kamala Harris, the sitting vice president and someone
who right who wants to be president of the United States,
what she was happily chanting with the mob on the street.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean there it is up up with education, down,
down with deportation, saying we're not importing anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
This is what she believes. Believe her when she says it.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, and when you watch the video, they're all dancing joyously.
I mean it is these are a bunch of radicals.
They support open borders. Kamal Harris is a radical. She
supports open borders. She always has. She's always voted for
open borders. She's always advocated for open borders. And right
now her strategy is to try to lie to the
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American people. She is literally right now spending millions of
dollars running ads TV ads with video of Trump's border wall,
something she's opposed from day one, But for the next
six weeks on the campaign trail, she is going to
pretend that she's all for securing the border and all
four deportation, unless God forbid, she wins, and then you're
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gonna discover the open borders we've had in the last
four years, they're just getting started and they're only getting work.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, and you talk about that just a straight up lying.
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Her new ad shows Trump's wall, which she said was
inhumane and that she would tear down and never allow
and it should never be allowed to be built. Now
apparently she's in favor of it, but she's obviously not.
She's just trying to buy votes because she understands it's
a liability. What's going on at the Southern border right now,
and how every city in America has become a border city,
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and every liberal city that was a sanctuary city has
now turned into a total disaster. And then you see
this video come back out or this video come back
up that they were a guest trying to hide because
it's not popular right now, and you know what she
believes center Like, it's very clear she wants to flood
the border with illegal immigrants if she is elected president.
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And this also comes as a new report has come
out talking about how Mexico has launched a massive operation
through which migrants are intercepting, apprehended in northern States, brought
to the corner of the country furthest from the US border,
then process and released. As the Washington Post summarize it, quote,
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aided by the military, agents, added checkpoints on the highways,
and ramped up searches of trains and buses. In the
first half of twenty twenty four, Mexico logs seven hundred
and twelve thousand apprehensions, nearly triple the number in the
same period last year. And what we're being told now
is this all came out of the deal with Biden
Harris when they had that meeting with the leadership in Mexico, like, hey,
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right before election day, we need the number of border
crossings to drop. Can you guys help us out? And
now we know the plan is actually working very well
in Mexico.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well, and listen, there is a reason that the left
is not upset with Kamala because they know this is
who she is. They know this is what she believes.
She's been the borders are for four years. If she's president,
the open borders get worse. The eleven and a half
million illegal aliens becomes twenty million becomes thirty million. That
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is their plan to fundamentally change the American electorate. They
view all of them as future Democrat voters, some voting
illegally immediately and some voting when Democrats seize control and
give them amnesty. That is their plan. And nobody, you know,
the radicals who were dancing in the street with Kamala
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chanting down with deportation, they're not upset with Kamala's ads
with the border wall. Why is that because they know
she's lying. They're perfectly happy for her to lie to
the voters, and they think the voters are gullible enough
that they'll be like, oh, oh, she agrees with me
on border security. I got to say, I don't think
the American people are nearly as gullible as Democrats think
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they are.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You look at the headline and it says Mexico goes
into overdrive to help Biden Harris administration slow illegal immigration
before election day. So it's all a POI. This is
all being done quickly on purpose. They're saying today the
illegal border crossings are now. However, thirty five one hundred
for the day that's down, and they're going to campaign
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on this. Do you really believe that this is going
to work with the American people.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But I got to say, the president of Mexico is
not the only foreign leader who is trying to influence
this election and wants Kamala Harris selected president. President Zelenski
is in the United States and he's effectively campaigning for
Kamala That this is a story, as I said at
the outset, that just shocks me. I've never seen this
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happen where a foreign leader comes. He went to Pennsylvania,
the biggest swing state in the country. He went to
an ammunition factory. He arrived on an Air Force jet
presumably paid for by the taxpayers. And he does this
whole interview in The New Yorker where he slams Donald Trump,
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and he slams JD. Van Zelenski says in the interview
that Trump quote doesn't really know how to stop the war,
even if he might think he knows how. And then
on Vance, he attacks Vance directly and says Vance's quote
too radical. Now, I got to say, who the hell
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is Zelenski to be trying to interfere in our election?
The arrogance of this guy, And you know what, in
the Congress, this guy has gotten Republican support for military aid.
You want to find a way for that to disappear.
This is an awfully good way to do it. And
the guy, I've got to say, is an absolute moron
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for coming to the US six weeks before the election
and attacking Trump and Vance. I don't care if Zelensky
likes or dislikes what they have to say. He is
if he had the sense guy gave a cricket, he
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would have said on that question, you know what, I'm
not going to comment about US elections. That's for the
people of America to decide. That would have been smart
but you know what, Kamala Harris is perfectly happy to
use this guy as essentially a campaign prop. And and
and as I said, it is absolutely infuriating. Yeah, you
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look at what he was here for, and it was
to get a check. And that's the part I think
people need to understand. And and it wasn't just to
get a check.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It was also tou They described it as a victory
plan quote unquote that he was going to lay out
to President Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. They also said
he was going to show it to Trump, which made
me laugh. This is a two and a half years
of war with Russia and now they've come up with
a victory plan. It look he knows if he wants
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unlimited cash, then then then Biden and Harris are the team.
And that means Harris now is a team because they
will write him a check whenever he needs.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It, and they.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Will continue this for apparently another two and a half
years or another five years, whatever it is. But when
he comes here on our dollar, how is this not
an enkind donation? I mean it used to be that
when I was on campaigns, they would spend hours with
us Senator going over campaign finance rules and laws, so
that none of us ever made a mistake and it
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was not a joke like they took real time of
like the dues and don'ts and certain things that you
can and cannot do. This dude's flying over here. Taxpayers
are paying for it. He's on a big I mean
a big jet. He lands in a swing state, he
gets off the plane, he does the interview. This is
obviously a campaign contribution to the Harrison campaign, and no
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one back to Andy that the taxpayers are paying for
this propaganda.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So Ben, you're saying they didn't pick Pennsylvania at random.
It wasn't just let's throw a dart at the map
and see where it hits. The fact that it's the
most critical swing state in the entire country was was
was a factor in why why Kamala Harris wanted him
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, for sure, I mean pretty obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And listen to combine that ostensibly what he said he
was there as he was thanking the ammunition plant, because
they were making the ammunition that's being sent to Ukraine.
Doing that I think is unacceptable, but combining it with
explicitly attacking both Donald Trump and jd Vance is incredibly
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foolish and and let's be clear. Look, look, if you
look at the polling, I don't know what the odds
are that that that that Trump wins. I certainly hope
and pray he wins, but the odds are significant, whatever
they are.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Neither of us know what the odds are.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Sitting here today, Zelensky that this is just dumb on
his part because if Trump wins, he's got a huge
problem that just got bigger. And if Trump loses, you know,
good luck trying to get Republicans to listen to what
he has to say if he just behaves like a
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Democrat campaign activist.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
One other question I want to ask you is about Zelensky.
Real quick was going to this you know AMMO plant
that they went to. It made me laugh that he's
like acting like, you know, there's some do gooders that
are giving him this AMO. To be clear, the American
tax dollars are paying for them. He would never need
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to go there if this wasn't for a political stunt,
because they're going to cast a check. And that's how
they've set this up where hey, they make them America
get pays for that AMO. The AMO then goes to
Ukraine and it just was such a made for TV
propaganda moment, and I want people to understand that that's
what this was, to support and advocate for the campaign.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I'll tell you an
additional point that was made by Donald Trump Junior on
Twitter I think is really quite significant. So so Trump
Junior tweeted, So, a foreign leader who has received billions
of dollars in funding from American taxpayers comes to our
country and has the nerve to attack the GOP ticket
for president. And he does this right after a pro
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Ukraine zelot tried to assassinate my father. Disgraceful and and
and that's a point. Look, this, this this lunatic who
camped out on the golf course and was there to
assassinate President Trump. The facts that have come out on
him as he was truly a pro Ukraine zealot, so
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much so that he flew over there and was trying
to enlist to fight with the Ukrainians and he was
such a kook. The Ukrainians said, we don't want you.
But but that that really does add insult to injury.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It does, and it also I think tells you just
how tone death they are, or maybe they just don't
care at all.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I'm not sure that they care at all.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Look, I think I don't know, but I think it
was remarkably foolish. And you know, look, I normally try
to give some grace and leniency to a leader in wartime.
I mean, he's fighting for his country. I understand what
he's doing. This was foolish. I still want Russia to lose,
but I think what Zelensky did today was one of
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the greatest unforced errors I've seen a foreign leader do.
I've never seen this happen in my entire life, and
I think it really was a bad, bad mistake by Zelensky.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I agree, and it could.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And again, if you're going all in, because you know,
you get unlimited funds, and you came over here for
a check, and every time you show up, America writes
you that check. He's probably just looking at the politics, going, hey,
this is my meal ticket, Harris is the meal ticket.
Let's go help her win reelection or get elected, I
should say, And then I get the funds flowing for
another four years. And they obviously made that calculated decision.
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I agree with you. I think it was really really foolish.
I want to move on also to something else that
you mentioned earlier, and it's happened today. Set the stage
for everybody in Congress and explain exactly what was going on,
and it dealt with presidential immunity.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, Senate Democrats for two years have been engaged in
a relentless assault on the Supreme Court and trying to
undermine the Supreme Court. And so today the Senate Judiciary
Committee held a hearing on the Supreme Court's decision on
presidential immunity, and the whole purpose of the hearing was
to say that the Supreme Court decision is ridiculous, that
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it's out of bounds, that it basically said Trump is
a king, that he's unaccountable, that it's some you know,
bizz our decision, and they're trying both to attack Trump
and to delegitimize the Supreme Court, and and and so
among the witnesses testifying was was Michael Mucazy, who was
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the former Attorney General of the United States under George W. Bush,
and he was a federal judge for nearly twenty years
before that, and he was one of the witnesses, and
and so I took the opportunity to actually question the
former Attorney general and to lay out the the utterly
false narrative the Democrats were putting forward. Give a listen
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to my questioning of of Attorney General mucasey. Thank you,
mister Chairman. The nub of the Democrats argument today is
that the concept of presidential immunity is somehow unprecedented, is
somehow remarkable. That claim is utterly ahistorical and disconnected from
the entire constitutional history of the Republic. General Mucasey twenty
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twenty three.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
How many times has the President of.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
The United States been indicted Dohn before twenty twenty three?
How many times has a former president of the United
States been indicted? None? In the last two years. How
many times has President Donald J. Trump been indicted?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Four times? I believe.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Now many presidents of both parties have engaged in controversial actions,
and yet none of them have been indicted.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Let me ask you, General mckaysey.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
If a private citizen were to erect an internment camp
and to forcibly kidnap American citizens, to single them out
because of race, and to imprison them based on their race,
would that private citizen be subject to criminal prosecution. Would
when President Franklin delan Or Roosevelt did the exact same
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thing and erected Japanese internment camps, was FDR prosecuted. Let
me ask you similarly, if a private citizen were, say
to detonate a nuclear weapon over a city and kill
over one hundred and forty thousand people, and then if
that private citizen a few days later detonated another nuclear
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bomb over another city and killed seventy five thousand people,
could that private citizen be criminally prosecuted? He would? Was
President Harry Truman prosecuted for detonating nuclear weapons over Hiroshima
and Nagasaki?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
He was going, all right, how about this?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
If a private citizen launched a weaponized drove and killed
the United States citizen, could that private citizen be criminally prosecuted?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
He would?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Was President Barack Obama criminally prosecuted when he killed United
States citizens using drones without notice and without due process?
He was not?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Although as far as due process is concerned, I believe
the comment of my successor to that question was that
anala'lacky got quote all the process.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That was necessary. Well, although I suspect he might disagree
with that assessment, were he able to present his case?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All right, Let's contrast that with the rules that govern
other federal officials. You were a judge for nineteen years
as a federal judge, did you have immunity from your
official acts for my official act? Yes? Do federal prosecutors
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have an immunity from their official acts? They do? Now,
the distinction between official acts and personal acts is not
a terribly shocking distinction. Under the decision of Trump versus
United States, if any president walks onto the son of
the sidewalk and just shoots a citizen, is that president
libel to be prosecuted?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He is? How about this?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If a president steals funds from his campaign, does that
president face criminal liability?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
He does? How about this?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
If a president sexually assaults let's say an intern in
the Oval office, is the president subject criminal prosecution for that?
He could be? So that distinction, again, is not a
shocking distinction. The founding fathers vested the executive power in
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a single president of the United States. What we have
seen in the last two years is we have seen
Democrats deliberately weaponizing the Department of Justice and our legal
system to target their political opposition. It is not an
accident that every indictment against President Trump was brought by
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a Democrat and was brought after he announced his campaign
for president of the United States. Understand the target of
those indictments was not ultimately President Trump. It was the voters.
It was prosecutors who were terrified that the voters would choose.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
To re elect President Trump.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
One of the great things about the United States is
we're not a been out of republic. Since two thousand,
the nation of Pakistan has had six former prime ministers
prosecuted and convicted. Brazil has had three former presidents arrested
and imprisoned. Last year, Nicaragua and President Daniel Ortega arrested, charged,
and imprisoned forty political opponents. General mc caasey u are
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Attorney General of the United States. Is it the proper
role of the Department of Justice to prosecute and target
the political opponents of whoever happens to be President of
the United States.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It is, most assuredly not, thank you, he says. It
most certainly is not.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But the reality is Donald Trump keeps getting attacked by
the left, and they keep trying to lock up their
political opponent.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, no, that's exactly what they're doing. And their claim
that that that that the ruling that a president can't
be criminally prosecuted for his official acts is contrary to
the law. It's what's why I use the examples I used.
It's why I use Look, the Japanese and Tournament camp
presidents can do a lot of things in exercising their
official power that ordinary citizens cannot. And we would want
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our commander in chief. Our commander in chief can send
our troops into combat, can can use lethal force, and
they do regularly, and and and so the Supreme Court
naturally said, well, we don't want a situation where each
new president who comes in the first order a business
is let's criminally prosecute the last guy for the things
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he did as president that I disagreed with.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And so.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You know, the hearing was really a dog and pony
show by the Democrats to mischaracterize the Supreme Court decision.
So I thought it was important to explain the actual
law in the real context.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Let me let me ask you another question about this.
Will there be a correction? I mean, if Donald Trump
is the president next time, will there be a correction?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Or once the cats out of the bag.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is there any way of getting it back to where
we were before as you described it twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I certainly hope we are not in a world where
we are a banana republic where it is routine to
prosecute your predecessors. I don't know, but I do think
the Democrats have gone down a road that it's very
hard to turn around and come back from.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, it is to be very very tough, to put
it mildly, to turn this thing around. And I think
once they realize they can do this, I don't see
Democrats being responsible moving forward with it. That's my biggest concern.
So is there anything we can do to protect former
presidents or it is something need to change with the law.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
And Look, the biggest thing we can and should do
is re elect Donald Trump as president. The elections have consequences.
We're six weeks away from election day. The outcome of
this election matters immensely.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the Ben Ferguson Podcasts, and I am under
the weather, sick as a dog. And Senator Cruz and
I did our podcast together as a joint podcast as
we've still got a country to save and we still
got to fight. But I am really under the weather.
So I want to let you know that on the
front end as we decide to do a joint pod
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for you this morning. Take a listen, as we're going
to be talking about several different issues, including deportations and
Zelensky coming to America in a campaign for Kamway. Harris,
how is that not a major violation of campaign finance laws?
Plus President community now becoming a big issue in Washington
with hearings on Capitol Hill. No, why Senator you're beating
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me today. You're somewhat under the weather. But I think
you've got more energy than I do. Well, I think
that's probably right. But but but hopefully neither of us
cough cough up along and we can wait. We can
talk about the great things that that that that are
happening in this country that are really threatening our nation,
and that gives you reason to fight even when you
may not feel great. Amen to that We've got a
(01:09):
very interesting subject that has popped up, and that deals
with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, that's right, Kamala's radical past keeps coming back to
haunt her. She's trying to run a presidential campaign pretending
not to be a radical leftist, and the problem is
truth keeps getting in the way. We now have video
and audio of her at a rally chanting down with
deportation and amazingly doing it right next to discredited hustler
(01:40):
Jesse Smolette, and they're chatting with the whole mob. Up
with education, down with deportation. It's really quite remarkable. We're
going to talk about that. We're also going to talk
about a story unlike any I've ever seen before, which
is Ukraine's president Zelenski, came to Pennsylvania and is essentially
campaigning for Kamala Harris and he's attacking Donald Trump and JD.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Vance.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It is shocking. I do not recall ever seeing a
foreign leader do this. It's infuriating. We're going to talk
about that too. And finally, we're going to talk about
a hearing yesterday in the Senate Judiciary Committee where the
Senate Democrats once again are attacking the US Supreme Court,
and this hearing was all about the Supreme Court's decision
on presidential immunity, and they're trying to wrongly convince the
voters that it's some sort of outrageous decision that allows
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Trump to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That is a lie.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
We're going to talk about that hearing and what the
actual truth is.
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Speaker 1 (04:48):
So Center if you go back.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And it's amazing how many of these videos start to
surface here. Uh, and the media clearly isn't doing their job.
You've got this video and it's Kamala Harris. She's straight
up out there, she's very proud of it, shouting she's down,
she's not down with deportations at this rally. And when
(05:11):
you see this resurface video of her protesting against deporting
migrants with a disgraced celebrity, you go, man, I wonder
how long the media had this and they decide to
sit on it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well clearly that they don't want people to see it,
and and and give a listen. You need to listen
to what Kamala Harris, the sitting vice president and someone
who right who wants to be president of the United States,
what she was happily chanting with the mob on the street.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean there it is up up with education, down,
down with deportation, saying we're not importing anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
This is what she believes. Believe her when she says it.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, and when you watch the video, they're all dancing joyously.
I mean it is these are a bunch of radicals.
They support open borders. Kamal Harris is a radical. She
supports open borders. She always has. She's always voted for
open borders. She's always advocated for open borders. And right
now her strategy is to try to lie to the
(06:31):
American people. She is literally right now spending millions of
dollars running ads TV ads with video of Trump's border wall,
something she's opposed from day one, But for the next
six weeks on the campaign trail, she is going to
pretend that she's all for securing the border and all
four deportation, unless God forbid, she wins, and then you're
(06:54):
gonna discover the open borders we've had in the last
four years, they're just getting started and they're only getting work.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, and you talk about that just a straight up lying.
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Her new ad shows Trump's wall, which she said was
inhumane and that she would tear down and never allow
and it should never be allowed to be built. Now
apparently she's in favor of it, but she's obviously not.
She's just trying to buy votes because she understands it's
a liability. What's going on at the Southern border right now,
and how every city in America has become a border city,
(07:24):
and every liberal city that was a sanctuary city has
now turned into a total disaster. And then you see
this video come back out or this video come back
up that they were a guest trying to hide because
it's not popular right now, and you know what she
believes center Like, it's very clear she wants to flood
the border with illegal immigrants if she is elected president.
(07:46):
And this also comes as a new report has come
out talking about how Mexico has launched a massive operation
through which migrants are intercepting, apprehended in northern States, brought
to the corner of the country furthest from the US border,
then process and released. As the Washington Post summarize it, quote,
(08:07):
aided by the military, agents, added checkpoints on the highways,
and ramped up searches of trains and buses. In the
first half of twenty twenty four, Mexico logs seven hundred
and twelve thousand apprehensions, nearly triple the number in the
same period last year. And what we're being told now
is this all came out of the deal with Biden
Harris when they had that meeting with the leadership in Mexico, like, hey,
(08:29):
right before election day, we need the number of border
crossings to drop. Can you guys help us out? And
now we know the plan is actually working very well
in Mexico.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well, and listen, there is a reason that the left
is not upset with Kamala because they know this is
who she is. They know this is what she believes.
She's been the borders are for four years. If she's president,
the open borders get worse. The eleven and a half
million illegal aliens becomes twenty million becomes thirty million. That
(09:00):
is their plan to fundamentally change the American electorate. They
view all of them as future Democrat voters, some voting
illegally immediately and some voting when Democrats seize control and
give them amnesty. That is their plan. And nobody, you know,
the radicals who were dancing in the street with Kamala
(09:21):
chanting down with deportation, they're not upset with Kamala's ads
with the border wall. Why is that because they know
she's lying. They're perfectly happy for her to lie to
the voters, and they think the voters are gullible enough
that they'll be like, oh, oh, she agrees with me
on border security. I got to say, I don't think
the American people are nearly as gullible as Democrats think
(09:41):
they are.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You look at the headline and it says Mexico goes
into overdrive to help Biden Harris administration slow illegal immigration
before election day. So it's all a POI. This is
all being done quickly on purpose. They're saying today the
illegal border crossings are now. However, thirty five one hundred
for the day that's down, and they're going to campaign
(10:05):
on this. Do you really believe that this is going
to work with the American people.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
But I got to say, the president of Mexico is
not the only foreign leader who is trying to influence
this election and wants Kamala Harris selected president. President Zelenski
is in the United States and he's effectively campaigning for
Kamala That this is a story, as I said at
the outset, that just shocks me. I've never seen this
(10:34):
happen where a foreign leader comes. He went to Pennsylvania,
the biggest swing state in the country. He went to
an ammunition factory. He arrived on an Air Force jet
presumably paid for by the taxpayers. And he does this
whole interview in The New Yorker where he slams Donald Trump,
(10:56):
and he slams JD. Van Zelenski says in the interview
that Trump quote doesn't really know how to stop the war,
even if he might think he knows how. And then
on Vance, he attacks Vance directly and says Vance's quote
too radical. Now, I got to say, who the hell
(11:19):
is Zelenski to be trying to interfere in our election?
The arrogance of this guy, And you know what, in
the Congress, this guy has gotten Republican support for military aid.
You want to find a way for that to disappear.
This is an awfully good way to do it. And
the guy, I've got to say, is an absolute moron
(11:41):
for coming to the US six weeks before the election
and attacking Trump and Vance. I don't care if Zelensky
likes or dislikes what they have to say. He is
if he had the sense guy gave a cricket, he
(12:03):
would have said on that question, you know what, I'm
not going to comment about US elections. That's for the
people of America to decide. That would have been smart
but you know what, Kamala Harris is perfectly happy to
use this guy as essentially a campaign prop. And and
and as I said, it is absolutely infuriating. Yeah, you
(12:23):
look at what he was here for, and it was
to get a check. And that's the part I think
people need to understand. And and it wasn't just to
get a check.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It was also tou They described it as a victory
plan quote unquote that he was going to lay out
to President Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. They also said
he was going to show it to Trump, which made
me laugh. This is a two and a half years
of war with Russia and now they've come up with
a victory plan. It look he knows if he wants
(12:51):
unlimited cash, then then then Biden and Harris are the team.
And that means Harris now is a team because they
will write him a check whenever he needs.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It, and they.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Will continue this for apparently another two and a half
years or another five years, whatever it is. But when
he comes here on our dollar, how is this not
an enkind donation? I mean it used to be that
when I was on campaigns, they would spend hours with
us Senator going over campaign finance rules and laws, so
that none of us ever made a mistake and it
(13:23):
was not a joke like they took real time of
like the dues and don'ts and certain things that you
can and cannot do. This dude's flying over here. Taxpayers
are paying for it. He's on a big I mean
a big jet. He lands in a swing state, he
gets off the plane, he does the interview. This is
obviously a campaign contribution to the Harrison campaign, and no
(13:48):
one back to Andy that the taxpayers are paying for
this propaganda.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So Ben, you're saying they didn't pick Pennsylvania at random.
It wasn't just let's throw a dart at the map
and see where it hits. The fact that it's the
most critical swing state in the entire country was was
was a factor in why why Kamala Harris wanted him
in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, for sure, I mean pretty obvious.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And listen to combine that ostensibly what he said he
was there as he was thanking the ammunition plant, because
they were making the ammunition that's being sent to Ukraine.
Doing that I think is unacceptable, but combining it with
explicitly attacking both Donald Trump and jd Vance is incredibly
(14:37):
foolish and and let's be clear. Look, look, if you
look at the polling, I don't know what the odds
are that that that that Trump wins. I certainly hope
and pray he wins, but the odds are significant, whatever
they are.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Neither of us know what the odds are.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Sitting here today, Zelensky that this is just dumb on
his part because if Trump wins, he's got a huge
problem that just got bigger. And if Trump loses, you know,
good luck trying to get Republicans to listen to what
he has to say if he just behaves like a
(15:16):
Democrat campaign activist.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
One other question I want to ask you is about Zelensky.
Real quick was going to this you know AMMO plant
that they went to. It made me laugh that he's
like acting like, you know, there's some do gooders that
are giving him this AMO. To be clear, the American
tax dollars are paying for them. He would never need
(15:40):
to go there if this wasn't for a political stunt,
because they're going to cast a check. And that's how
they've set this up where hey, they make them America
get pays for that AMO. The AMO then goes to
Ukraine and it just was such a made for TV
propaganda moment, and I want people to understand that that's
what this was, to support and advocate for the campaign.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I'll tell you an
additional point that was made by Donald Trump Junior on
Twitter I think is really quite significant. So so Trump
Junior tweeted, So, a foreign leader who has received billions
of dollars in funding from American taxpayers comes to our
country and has the nerve to attack the GOP ticket
for president. And he does this right after a pro
(16:27):
Ukraine zelot tried to assassinate my father. Disgraceful and and
and that's a point. Look, this, this this lunatic who
camped out on the golf course and was there to
assassinate President Trump. The facts that have come out on
him as he was truly a pro Ukraine zealot, so
(16:47):
much so that he flew over there and was trying
to enlist to fight with the Ukrainians and he was
such a kook. The Ukrainians said, we don't want you.
But but that that really does add insult to injury.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It does, and it also I think tells you just
how tone death they are, or maybe they just don't
care at all.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I'm not sure that they care at all.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Look, I think I don't know, but I think it
was remarkably foolish. And you know, look, I normally try
to give some grace and leniency to a leader in wartime.
I mean, he's fighting for his country. I understand what
he's doing. This was foolish. I still want Russia to lose,
but I think what Zelensky did today was one of
(17:35):
the greatest unforced errors I've seen a foreign leader do.
I've never seen this happen in my entire life, and
I think it really was a bad, bad mistake by Zelensky.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I agree, and it could.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And again, if you're going all in, because you know,
you get unlimited funds, and you came over here for
a check, and every time you show up, America writes
you that check. He's probably just looking at the politics, going, hey,
this is my meal ticket, Harris is the meal ticket.
Let's go help her win reelection or get elected, I
should say, And then I get the funds flowing for
another four years. And they obviously made that calculated decision.
(18:14):
I agree with you. I think it was really really foolish.
I want to move on also to something else that
you mentioned earlier, and it's happened today. Set the stage
for everybody in Congress and explain exactly what was going on,
and it dealt with presidential immunity.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, Senate Democrats for two years have been engaged in
a relentless assault on the Supreme Court and trying to
undermine the Supreme Court. And so today the Senate Judiciary
Committee held a hearing on the Supreme Court's decision on
presidential immunity, and the whole purpose of the hearing was
to say that the Supreme Court decision is ridiculous, that
(18:53):
it's out of bounds, that it basically said Trump is
a king, that he's unaccountable, that it's some you know,
bizz our decision, and they're trying both to attack Trump
and to delegitimize the Supreme Court, and and and so
among the witnesses testifying was was Michael Mucazy, who was
(19:13):
the former Attorney General of the United States under George W. Bush,
and he was a federal judge for nearly twenty years
before that, and he was one of the witnesses, and
and so I took the opportunity to actually question the
former Attorney general and to lay out the the utterly
false narrative the Democrats were putting forward. Give a listen
(19:35):
to my questioning of of Attorney General mucasey. Thank you,
mister Chairman. The nub of the Democrats argument today is
that the concept of presidential immunity is somehow unprecedented, is
somehow remarkable. That claim is utterly ahistorical and disconnected from
the entire constitutional history of the Republic. General Mucasey twenty
(20:00):
twenty three.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
How many times has the President of.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
The United States been indicted Dohn before twenty twenty three?
How many times has a former president of the United
States been indicted? None? In the last two years. How
many times has President Donald J. Trump been indicted?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Four times? I believe.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Now many presidents of both parties have engaged in controversial actions,
and yet none of them have been indicted.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Let me ask you, General mckaysey.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
If a private citizen were to erect an internment camp
and to forcibly kidnap American citizens, to single them out
because of race, and to imprison them based on their race,
would that private citizen be subject to criminal prosecution. Would
when President Franklin delan Or Roosevelt did the exact same
(20:54):
thing and erected Japanese internment camps, was FDR prosecuted. Let
me ask you similarly, if a private citizen were, say
to detonate a nuclear weapon over a city and kill
over one hundred and forty thousand people, and then if
that private citizen a few days later detonated another nuclear
(21:16):
bomb over another city and killed seventy five thousand people,
could that private citizen be criminally prosecuted? He would? Was
President Harry Truman prosecuted for detonating nuclear weapons over Hiroshima
and Nagasaki?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
He was going, all right, how about this?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
If a private citizen launched a weaponized drove and killed
the United States citizen, could that private citizen be criminally prosecuted?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
He would?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Was President Barack Obama criminally prosecuted when he killed United
States citizens using drones without notice and without due process?
He was not?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Although as far as due process is concerned, I believe
the comment of my successor to that question was that
anala'lacky got quote all the process.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That was necessary. Well, although I suspect he might disagree
with that assessment, were he able to present his case?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All right, Let's contrast that with the rules that govern
other federal officials. You were a judge for nineteen years
as a federal judge, did you have immunity from your
official acts for my official act? Yes? Do federal prosecutors
(22:44):
have an immunity from their official acts? They do? Now,
the distinction between official acts and personal acts is not
a terribly shocking distinction. Under the decision of Trump versus
United States, if any president walks onto the son of
the sidewalk and just shoots a citizen, is that president
libel to be prosecuted?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He is? How about this?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
If a president steals funds from his campaign, does that
president face criminal liability?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
He does? How about this?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
If a president sexually assaults let's say an intern in
the Oval office, is the president subject criminal prosecution for that?
He could be? So that distinction, again, is not a
shocking distinction. The founding fathers vested the executive power in
(23:47):
a single president of the United States. What we have
seen in the last two years is we have seen
Democrats deliberately weaponizing the Department of Justice and our legal
system to target their political opposition. It is not an
accident that every indictment against President Trump was brought by
(24:12):
a Democrat and was brought after he announced his campaign
for president of the United States. Understand the target of
those indictments was not ultimately President Trump. It was the voters.
It was prosecutors who were terrified that the voters would choose.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
To re elect President Trump.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
One of the great things about the United States is
we're not a been out of republic. Since two thousand,
the nation of Pakistan has had six former prime ministers
prosecuted and convicted. Brazil has had three former presidents arrested
and imprisoned. Last year, Nicaragua and President Daniel Ortega arrested, charged,
and imprisoned forty political opponents. General mc caasey u are
(24:54):
Attorney General of the United States. Is it the proper
role of the Department of Justice to prosecute and target
the political opponents of whoever happens to be President of
the United States.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It is, most assuredly not, thank you, he says. It
most certainly is not.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But the reality is Donald Trump keeps getting attacked by
the left, and they keep trying to lock up their
political opponent.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, no, that's exactly what they're doing. And their claim
that that that that the ruling that a president can't
be criminally prosecuted for his official acts is contrary to
the law. It's what's why I use the examples I used.
It's why I use Look, the Japanese and Tournament camp
presidents can do a lot of things in exercising their
official power that ordinary citizens cannot. And we would want
(25:43):
our commander in chief. Our commander in chief can send
our troops into combat, can can use lethal force, and
they do regularly, and and and so the Supreme Court
naturally said, well, we don't want a situation where each
new president who comes in the first order a business
is let's criminally prosecute the last guy for the things
(26:04):
he did as president that I disagreed with.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And so.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You know, the hearing was really a dog and pony
show by the Democrats to mischaracterize the Supreme Court decision.
So I thought it was important to explain the actual
law in the real context.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Let me let me ask you another question about this.
Will there be a correction? I mean, if Donald Trump
is the president next time, will there be a correction?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Or once the cats out of the bag.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is there any way of getting it back to where
we were before as you described it twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I certainly hope we are not in a world where
we are a banana republic where it is routine to
prosecute your predecessors. I don't know, but I do think
the Democrats have gone down a road that it's very
hard to turn around and come back from.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, it is to be very very tough, to put
it mildly, to turn this thing around. And I think
once they realize they can do this, I don't see
Democrats being responsible moving forward with it. That's my biggest concern.
So is there anything we can do to protect former
presidents or it is something need to change with the law.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
And Look, the biggest thing we can and should do
is re elect Donald Trump as president. The elections have consequences.
We're six weeks away from election day. The outcome of
this election matters immensely.
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