December 16, 2025 • 29 mins
Overview of the Incident
- The FBI disrupted a credible and imminent domestic terrorist threat targeting Southern California on New Year’s Eve.
- Four individuals were arrested in the Los Angeles area; a fifth suspect was later apprehended in New Orleans.
- The suspects were linked to a radical anti-government group called Turtle Island Liberation Front (TILF) and its extremist faction, Order of the Black Lotus.
Details of the Plot
- Planned coordinated bombing attacks using improvised explosive devices (IEDs) at five or more locations across Los Angeles and Orange County.
- Targets included U.S. businesses, with bombs intended to detonate simultaneously at midnight on New Year’s Eve.
- The plot included step-by-step bomb-making instructions, encrypted communications, and plans for follow-up attacks against ICE agents and vehicles.
- Co-conspirators purchased bomb-making materials and intended to test explosives in the Mojave Desert.
Arrests and Evidence
- FBI arrested the four suspects at a remote desert campsite before they could assemble functional bombs.
- Search warrants executed at multiple locations uncovered:
- Bomb-making materials.
- Detailed attack plans.
- Posters and propaganda promoting anti-government and anti-law enforcement ideology.
- Social media posts from TILF advocated violence against U.S. officials and called for revolution.
Law Enforcement Response
- Operation involved FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, SWAT teams, bomb technicians, and multiple federal, state, and local agencies.
- Press conference emphasized:
- The sophistication and organization of the plot.
- The importance of interagency collaboration.
- Continued vigilance against extremist threats.
Suspects Identified
- Audrey Carroll (30), Zachary Aaron Page (32), Dante Gaffield (24), and Tinala (41) – all from Los Angeles area.
- Charged with conspiracy and possession of unregistered destructive devices under federal law.
- Additional charges expected as investigation continues.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
FBI Director Cash Patel, saying over the weekend, the FBI
disrupted a credible imminent terrorist threat and arrested four individuals
connected to the Los Angeles area. The subjects, he'd set
in a post on x self identified as members of
a radical offshoot of the Turtle Island Liberation Front known
(00:22):
as TILF, an extremist group motivated by pro Palestinian, anti
law enforcement and anti government ideology. They were allegedly planning
coordinated ied bombing attacks on New Year's Eve, targeting five
separate locations across Los Angeles. In the days since the
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FBI New Orleans, we now have learned is also arrested.
An additional fifth individual believed to be linked to this
radical TILT subgroup, also allegedly planning a separate violent attack.
Outstanding work, he said, by our investigators and law enforcement
partners the Justice Department. Their work undoubtedly saved countless lives.
(01:04):
FBI Los Angeles will hold a press conference, he said,
later today, to share additional details. We now have those
additional details, and I want you to listen to the
press conference out of LA as federal and local authorities
discuss it's alleged New Year's eve tear attack thwart it
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to listen to the press conference out of la.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In direct response to the President's order the Attorney General
issue a memo to our offices implementing and mobilizing federal
law enforcement to prioritize and counter domestic terrorism and political
violence investigations.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
As a result of those directives, we built this case.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Both my office and the FBI have invested substantial resources
into investigating and charging these organizations. And if anyone does
not believe that members of these groups are organized, sophisticated,
and extremely violent, let me tell you about the plot
in this case. The four defendants are Audrey Carroll, thirty
(03:09):
years old. The pictures, I think we have them somewhere.
We'll put them up here. Audrey Carroll, thirty years old,
Zachary Aaron Page thirty two, Dante Gaffield twenty four, and
Tinala forty.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
One, each from the Los Angeles area.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Each is charged with conspiracy and possession of an unregistered
destructive device in violation of Title twenty six United States Code,
Section five eight six' ONE. D we intend to file
additional charges in the coming weeks as we finish reviewing the.
Evidence the defendants are all radical anti government members of
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The Turtle Island Liberation, front, which according to their own social,
media is an anti capitalist anti government movement that calls
for their associates to rise up and fight back against.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Capitalism what are the leaders of the?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Organization Defendant Audrey carroll helped organize an even more radical.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Faction of the group called The order of The Black.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Lotus each of the defendants charged today was also a
member of The order of The Black. Lotus carroll described
this group to her co conspirators as everything. Radical as
detailed in the federal complaint which we will now make.
Public In november twenty twenty, Five Defendant carroll created a
detailed bombing plot to use explosive devices to attack five
(04:29):
or more locations across Southern california on this Upcoming New Year's.
Eve carol and her co Defendant Zachary page led the
effort to obtain and build the bombs and to recruit
others to join in their. Plot carroll's bomb plot was.
Explicit it included a step by step instructions to build
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IEDs or improvised explosive, devices and listed multiple targets Across
Orange county And Los. Angeles carol also made clear her,
desires said, quote what we are doing will be considered
a terrorist. Act carol And paige also discussed plans for
follow up attacks after their, bombings which included plans to
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TARGET ice agents and vehicles with pipe. Bombs carol stated
that those plans would quote take some of them out
and scare the. Rest throughout Early, december the co conspirators
discussed their plans during an in person meeting In Los
angeles and through an encrypted messaging. Application as part of the,
plan the four defendants plan to build test bombs in
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The Mojave. Desert you're going to hear more details about
the bombs they intended to build and how the operation
went down in the desert here shortly from THE Fbi
Assistant director in. Charge in preparation for the, plan the
co conspirators purchased multiple pieces of bomb making materials and
discuss their.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Travel plans to the.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Desert Last, Friday december, twelfth the defendants took a significant
step to carry out their. Plans they traveled to the
remote campsite you're going to see some video of in
the desert and they began unloading their bomb making materials
to assemble and test the.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Bombs they had everything they needed to make.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
An operational bomb at that, location and they were subsequently
arrested by THE fbi before they could build a functional explosive.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Device shortly after.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The defendants were taken into, custody THE fbi executed multiple search,
warrants including at the defendant's Southern california residents and other
locations throughout the. Country i'll highlight some of the items
found during those searches over the. Weekend for, example In carroll's,
residence law enforcement found multiple posters and materials associated With
Turtle Island Liberation, front including posters stating quote death To,
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america long Lived Turtle island And palestine end quote death To.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Ice Turtle Island Liberation.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Front In page's, residence law enforcement found a copy of
the detailed bomb attack. Plan this case is another reminder
about the dangers that Radicalized antifa like groups posed to
public safety and the rule of. Law through the tireless
work of our prosecutors in my office and our law enforcement,
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partners which you will hear from, today we disrupted this
terror plot before buildings were demolished or innocent people were.
Killed but this is not the end of our. Work
my office is committed to extinguishing the far left terror
threats that we face and will continue to work twenty
four hours a, day seven days a. Week the for
defendants arrested will make their initial appearance this afternoon at.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
The Federal court in Downtown Los.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Angeles they are each considered innocent until proven. GUILTY i
will now turn it over to The Assistant director in
charge of THE FBI la office At Kille.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Davis all, right let's pause there just for a second
and talk about everything that we just heard. About this
is exactly WHAT i voted for With Donald. TRUMP i
want to be. Clear he said he was going to
hunt down those that were brought into this, country came
to this country. Illegally he said he was going to
do everything he could to keep us. Safe he wasn't
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going to play political games putical. Correctness he was going
to allow law enforcement to do what law enforcement. Does
and that is exactly what we are witnessing right now.
Now this attack was one that was very close and
was on its way to being incredibly. Deadly it also
tells you about how many people are in this country right,
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now and it'll be very interesting to see what we
find about the status of these, individuals but it does
tell you how many people are in this country right
now that want and are planning to do. Harm we
talked about the eighteen thousand the other. Day they talked
about that they believe are in this country that are
a threat to this. Country we talked about the fact
that there was real warnings about sleeper cells in this.
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Country there are real problems with sleeper sales in this,
country and we know. It everyone knows. It that is
again part of the. Problem individuals self identified as members
of The Turtle Island Liberation. Front that is what we.
Know they are proud about what they believe, in and thank,
(09:13):
goodness over the, weekend THE fbi was able to disrupt
this credible and eminent terrorist, threat arresting the individuals connected
in The Los angeles. Area the intel also then spread
to another individual they arrested In New. Orleans it was
planning another attack there as. WELL i want to go
back to this press conference SOUND i want to play
for you part two about what we even what we
(09:35):
know now about a little bit of the motive and
who they were wanting to kill in this terrorist. Attack
again that's coming out Of. California.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Again my name Is Akille. Davis i'm the assistant director
in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles. Division as we're all,
aware we've had a busy weekend in this country and
abroad with bad news incidents one after. Another, today we
are announcing a major victory in our collect effort to
Protect american. People the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task force intercepted
(10:05):
a scheme by members of a violent extremist group we
believed determined to detonate explosives at multiple businesses On New
Year's eve Last. Friday THE fbi arrested four of those
subjects near twenty Nine palms In San Bernardino county while
they planned and rehearsed their. Attack the four subjects are
members of a radical faction of The Turtle Island Liberation FRONT,
(10:28):
tilf a, violent homegrown anti government. Group the subject arrested
envisioned planting backpacks with improvised explosive devices to be detonated
at multiple locations in Southern, california TARGETING us. Companies these
bombs were to blow up at the same time on
(10:48):
midnight This New Year's. Eve the plan stated that the
IDs would be complex pipe. Bombs it included instructions on
how to manufacture the bombs and contained guidance on how
to avoid leaving.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Evidence behind that could be traced back to.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Them our investigation uncovered evidence and that the group would
test the explosives in the, desert and we're going to
show footage of that here in a. Second we learned
that the alleged co conspiras had recently started acquiring precursor
chemicals and other items necessary to accomplish this. Task in recent,
days the alleged co conspiras discussed plans to travel to
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the desert on the twelfth to detonate the. Explosives knowing,
lists the FBI's jttf and THE Fbi Los Angeles Field
office staged MULTIPLE swat, teams special agent bomb, technicians Our
Evidence Response, team along with the FBI's Elite Hostage Rescue
team in the desert to disrupt this plan before any
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harm could. Occur because of, this we were able to
disrupt their. Plan all four group members were taken into
custody without. Incident THE tiolf instagram account publicly post content
that advocates for violence against The United states. OFFICIALS a
recent post called for a revolution and asked for supporters
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to organize and be ready THE fbi as you have
seen here can also organize and be. Ready we could
not have accomplished these arrests without the exceptional assistance from
our partners on The Joint Terrorism Task. FORCE i specifically
want to thank the following agencies as you see up here,
today The Los Angeles County Sheriff's, department The Los Angeles Police,
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department The Palm Springs Police, department along with The San
Bernardino County Sheriff's. DEPARTMENT i also want to recognize the
FOLLOWING fbi field, offices as this investigation crossed the entire,
country The New Orleans, division The Buffalo, Division Indianapolis, division
and The Boston, division, who as you all, know have
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had their hands full this. Weekend in, fact an additional
wards wrest by our partners AT Fbi New orleans and
support of this. INVESTIGATION i will now turn it over
to The Los Angeles Police Chief jim.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Dung, well thank you and good, morning and we appreciate
your being here. Today Los Angeles Police department is proud
to stand alongside our, federal, state and local partners today
to announce the arrests stemming from a coordinated domestic terror.
Plot the case underscore is the persistent threat posed by
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extremist groups and, individuals as well as the critical need
for law enforcement agencies to remain vigilant in protecting our.
Communities the successful disruption of this plot is a powerful
testament to the strength of our unified, response driven by
the collaboration and tireless efforts of the FBI's Joint Terrorism
Task force along with our allied. Agencies, together we have
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prevented a potential tragedy and reaffirmed our shared commitment to
safeguarding our. COMMUNITIES i want to personally thank the dedicated
men and women from every agency. Involved their relentless work
over the past several days has ensured that those responsible
were apprehended swiftly and safely and without harm to our.
Neighborhoods thank you to call Up sheriff Of Los Angeles,
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County Robert, Muna.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Well good morning, everybody and thank you for being here
to cover this WHAT i believe is a very very
important story for our. Community this successful operation was a
result of, quick proactive investigative, work AND i want to
emphasize strong collaboration and A dick Kill davis mentioned it
and gave credit to all the law enforcement here in Southern.
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California it is better, here it always has been than
anywhere else in the. Country and we're very proud to
be part of The Joint Terrorism Task force FOR us
at The Sheriff's. Department we've been part of it since
after nine to. Eleven their ability to share intelligence across
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multiple agencies investigating threats like this one is second to
none anywhere. Else the way we coordinate with partner agencies
and that quickly was critical to the success of this.
Operation and LIKE i said, before there's no other area
like here In La county with our partnership that has
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been here for years with THE fbi AND lapd and
the other law enforcement agencies around. Us since this threat
was uncovered last, week Our Sheriff's Task force officers and intelligence,
analysts working closely with our law enforcement, partners have been
working around the clock to verify, information identify, targets and
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piece together this plot that you've heard. Described their strong investigative,
efforts sharp situational, awareness and rapid response ensured that this
threat was stopped before it ever had a chance to
be carried. Out i'm, incredibly incredibly proud of the professionalism
and dedicated shown by the men and women who work
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tireishly to bring this threat to an end before it
could cause arm to any anybody in our, community to our.
COMMUNITY i know hearing about these incidents like this can be,
unsettling especially in the light of the Recent Brown university
mass shooting and The Sydney Australia Sydney australia terrorist, attack
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but today serves as a powerful reminder that strong collaboration between,
federal state and local enforcement law enforcement can prevent violence
before it. Occurs as we enter the holiday, season a
time when families and friends come together across, traditions, cultures and,
beliefs this incident is a stark reminder of the importance
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of the of vigilance and to be prepared at all
times vigils whose goal is to divide, us to instill,
fear and to target the very diversity that makes our country.
STRONG i want to be very clear what you see.
Here this investigative work and the follow up that's been
done shows that they will not. Succeed our community's diversity
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is our, strength and protecting every member of our community
is our primary. Duty whether you are Celebrating. Christmas Honika,
Kwanza new year's or simply gathering with loved. Ones you
deserve to feel. Safe we are committed to ensuring that
safety today and every. Day we remain dedicated to protecting
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our entire community through ongoing intelligence gathering and threat, assessments
strengthening partnerships across all of our, agencies engaging with the
public to promote, awareness, vigilance and. Resilience let me.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Just pause there and say something THAT i love about
this press. Conference you hear the last person are. Talking
that's a man that is in charge with The Los
Angeles Shares. Department you notice how they're working with THE
fbi and other federal entities to make sure that this
is all done the right. WAY i can't tell you
(18:05):
how happy that makes me to see law enforcement working
together instead of what we've been witnessing in so many,
places which is law enforcement or elected officials refusing to
work with federal, authorities directing local law enforcement to not
honor ice, detainers for. Example at least on this, one
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what we're witnessing at the moment is a real coordinated
effort to stop a terrorist. Attack put politics, aside because
politics has no business in this. CONVERSATION i mean no
business in it at, all AND i am thankful that
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we are witnessing it right. Now. Now the question is
will anyone learn from? This on the, left will anybody
look at this and, say you know, what we really
really really really really really do need to learn from.
This that's a. QUESTION i don't. KNOW i don't know
what's going to, happen and we'll just have to. See
time will. Tell But god bless our men and women in,
uniform our men and women in law enforcement IN la
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and In New orleans who said we are going to
do everything we can to Keep american. Safe the other
part of this is who else is in this country
playing the same damn? Thing and how do we find
them before they're successful in their? Attacks that is part
of the question that has to also be. Asked Operation
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if you're A, democrat apparently lying about the crime stats
to make it look like you're fighting crime is more
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important than actually Saving american. Lives we now know that
is exactly what was happening In, washington D. C THE
Us Attorney Judge janeen said THAT dc authorities were literally
artificially deflating crime stats to manipulate the numbers to make
it look LIKE dc was safer than it actually. Was that's.
(21:03):
Right The United States attorney for The district Of columbia
saying that her office is investigation into The Metropolitan Police
department revealed widespread miss classification of crime reports that MADE
dc crime levels appear lower than they actually, were meaning fewer.
Victims THE Us attorney for The district Of columbia revealed
(21:26):
in a statement posted to her official ex account that
In august of twenty twenty, five The United States Attorney's
office IN dc began an investigation into The Metropolitan Police
department's reported deflation of crime. Statistics the need for accurate
information to fight, crime she went on to, say is,
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essential but that wasn't What democrats were doing at all IN.
Dc they just wanted to lie to the people while
crime was out of, control saying it's not as bad
as you think it. Is she went on to say
this after review of almost six thousand reports and the
interview of over fifty, witnesses it is evident that a
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significant number of reports had straight up been, misclassified making
crime appear artificially lower than. Reality, now the uncovering of
these manipulated crimes ctystics make clear That President trump has
reduced crime even more than originally, thought since crimes were
actually higher than. Reported his crime fighting efforts have delivered
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even more safety to the people of The district Of.
Columbia Judge janine concluded that, quote while the conduct did
not rise to the level of a criminal, charge it
is up to THE mpd to take steps to internally
address these underlying. Issues even more about this has broken since,
(22:53):
then and the jaw dropping report has just come out
from The house just to confirm what we all. Knew
the left WING dc police chief falsified crime, statistics cooking
the books to make her city seem much safer than
it actually. Was take a listen to this From Fox.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Led A House Overside committee now releasing a report accusing
the OUTGOING dc police chief manipulating data to artificially lower crime.
Statistics Bill malusian looking at the. Numbers he's live on
The hill with, This. Bill what you find? Out, Bill
good morning to.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
You Those House Overside Committee republicans say the bottom line
of what their investigation found is that the OUTGOING dc
police chief was essentially cooking the books on crime data
and trying to make the city seem a whole lot.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Safer than it really.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Was, now Those House republicans say what their investigation consisted
of was interviewing all seven commanders OF Dc Metro police's patrol,
districts including a former commander who's currently suspended for allegedly
tampering with crime stats in his own. District these are
some of the conclusions they've made in their. Report they
alleged THAT Dc Metro Police Chief Pamela smith pressured commanders
(24:07):
to report lower crime stats by any means. Necessary the
commanders testified That Chief smith even pushed them to pursue
lesser charges that aren't publicly, reported even for serious, crimes
and she required certain crimes to be reviewed by her office.
Now the report also says police commanders testified That Chief
smith punished them and retaliated against them if they tried
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to report, accurate rising crime, data even braiding them in
meetings and individually to pressure them into reporting those lower crime.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Figures.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
Now in a statement on the, Report House Overside Committee
Chairman James comer, says in part, Quote Chief Pamela smith
coerce staff to report artificially low crime data and cultivated
a culture of fear to a chief her, agenda.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
A culture of fear to attempt to attain her. Agenda
THE Dc Police chief the data she didn't actually fight.
Crime she just lied about the crime, stats pressuring the
commanders to report lower crime, statistics pushed them to pursue
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lesser charges for serious, crimes required certain crimes to actually
be reviewed by our. Office not because she was afraid
of what was happening on the streets in the district Of. Columbia, no, no,
no no, no so that she could misclassify them so
it wouldn't seem as dangerous and retaliated and punished individuals
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if they reported crimes. Accurately you look at this data
and you hear WHAT i just played for. You it
is shocking to know that this was how things are being.
Run we found out even more From Fox News channel
about all of this in a later report in the.
(25:58):
Afternoon take a, listen all, right and.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Moments, AGO Us Attorney Janin piro here In, washington D.
C responding to allegations THE dc crime data was manipulated
by the outgoing police, Chief Pamela. Smith that claim coming
from a New House Oversight committee. Report our congressional Corresponded
Bill maloji and with the latest On Capitol, Hill bill Well.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
John republicans on The House Oversight committee say their investigation
concluded that this OUTGOING dc police chief was trying to
make the city seem a whole lot safer than it really,
was and she was doing it by allegedly cooking the
books on crime. Statistics so The republicans on the committee
say their investigation consisted of interviewing seven DIFFERENT Dc Metro
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police commanders who represent all of the patrol districts out.
Here that included a former commander who's currently suspended for
allegedly tampering with crime stats in his own. District and
these are some of the conclusions they've made in their.
Report number, one they alleged THAT Dc Metro Police Chief
Pamela smith pressured commanders to report lower crime stats by
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any means. Necessary commanders testified That Chief smith pushed them
to pursue lesser charges that aren't publicly, reported even for serious,
crimes and she also required certain crimes to be.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Reviewed by her.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Office in a statement on this, Report House Overside Committee
Chairman James comer, says in part, Quote Chief Pamela smith
coerced staff to report artificially low crime data and cultivated
a culture of fear to achieve her. Agenda Chief smith's
decision to mislead the public by manipulating crime stats is
dangerous and undermined trust in both local leadership and law. Enforcement,
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MEANWHILE Dc Mayor Muriel bowser was asked to respond to
The House Overside Committee republicans' findings earlier this. Morning take a.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
LISTEN i don't see any evidence of that if the claim,
is AND i don't think anybody is demonstrated that the
police chief directed anybody to change numbers when those when
the committee provides me their backup, information which they haven't
when the committee provided the report to The Washington post
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before they provided it to. Us highly unusual when you're
talking about an audit of numbers and.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
John just moments, ago THE Us attorney here IN, Dc Janine,
piro responded to this. Report she put out a statement
on x which essentially says that, yes these crime stats were,
manipulated and the manipulation of that data shows That President
trump has reduced crime here IN dc a whole lot
more than initially. Thought she went on to say that
what happened here with the crime stats does not rise
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to the level of any criminal charges or a, crime
but that THE Dc Police department has to change their
practices moving. Forward well send it back to.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You, YEAH i know.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
That before everything changed in the, summer we were all, hearing,
well the crime is down IN, dc and none of
us said anything to peg that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Toos none of us had any of that to peg it.
To so THE dc police chief manipulating the crime, data
artificially lowering the crime stats and coerced staff to report
low data and cultivated a culture of fear to achieve
her agenda and didn't punish the. Criminals she punished THE
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dc police officers to pursue lesser charges for serious. Crimes
this is The Democratic party and it's exactly Why Donald
trump won the. Election it's also exactly why he's fighting
crime all over the country and sending in The National,
guard because even in cities Where democrats claim crime was,
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dropping they were flat out lying and cooking the. Books
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FBI Director Cash Patel, saying over the weekend, the FBI
disrupted a credible imminent terrorist threat and arrested four individuals
connected to the Los Angeles area. The subjects, he'd set
in a post on x self identified as members of
a radical offshoot of the Turtle Island Liberation Front known
(00:22):
as TILF, an extremist group motivated by pro Palestinian, anti
law enforcement and anti government ideology. They were allegedly planning
coordinated ied bombing attacks on New Year's Eve, targeting five
separate locations across Los Angeles. In the days since the
(00:43):
FBI New Orleans, we now have learned is also arrested.
An additional fifth individual believed to be linked to this
radical TILT subgroup, also allegedly planning a separate violent attack.
Outstanding work, he said, by our investigators and law enforcement
partners the Justice Department. Their work undoubtedly saved countless lives.
(01:04):
FBI Los Angeles will hold a press conference, he said,
later today, to share additional details. We now have those
additional details, and I want you to listen to the
press conference out of LA as federal and local authorities
discuss it's alleged New Year's eve tear attack thwart it
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to listen to the press conference out of la.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In direct response to the President's order the Attorney General
issue a memo to our offices implementing and mobilizing federal
law enforcement to prioritize and counter domestic terrorism and political
violence investigations.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
As a result of those directives, we built this case.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Both my office and the FBI have invested substantial resources
into investigating and charging these organizations. And if anyone does
not believe that members of these groups are organized, sophisticated,
and extremely violent, let me tell you about the plot
in this case. The four defendants are Audrey Carroll, thirty
(03:09):
years old. The pictures, I think we have them somewhere.
We'll put them up here. Audrey Carroll, thirty years old,
Zachary Aaron Page thirty two, Dante Gaffield twenty four, and
Tinala forty.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
One, each from the Los Angeles area.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Each is charged with conspiracy and possession of an unregistered
destructive device in violation of Title twenty six United States Code,
Section five eight six' ONE. D we intend to file
additional charges in the coming weeks as we finish reviewing the.
Evidence the defendants are all radical anti government members of
(03:44):
The Turtle Island Liberation, front, which according to their own social,
media is an anti capitalist anti government movement that calls
for their associates to rise up and fight back against.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Capitalism what are the leaders of the?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Organization Defendant Audrey carroll helped organize an even more radical.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Faction of the group called The order of The Black.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Lotus each of the defendants charged today was also a
member of The order of The Black. Lotus carroll described
this group to her co conspirators as everything. Radical as
detailed in the federal complaint which we will now make.
Public In november twenty twenty, Five Defendant carroll created a
detailed bombing plot to use explosive devices to attack five
(04:29):
or more locations across Southern california on this Upcoming New Year's.
Eve carol and her co Defendant Zachary page led the
effort to obtain and build the bombs and to recruit
others to join in their. Plot carroll's bomb plot was.
Explicit it included a step by step instructions to build
(04:49):
IEDs or improvised explosive, devices and listed multiple targets Across
Orange county And Los. Angeles carol also made clear her,
desires said, quote what we are doing will be considered
a terrorist. Act carol And paige also discussed plans for
follow up attacks after their, bombings which included plans to
(05:10):
TARGET ice agents and vehicles with pipe. Bombs carol stated
that those plans would quote take some of them out
and scare the. Rest throughout Early, december the co conspirators
discussed their plans during an in person meeting In Los
angeles and through an encrypted messaging. Application as part of the,
plan the four defendants plan to build test bombs in
(05:32):
The Mojave. Desert you're going to hear more details about
the bombs they intended to build and how the operation
went down in the desert here shortly from THE Fbi
Assistant director in. Charge in preparation for the, plan the
co conspirators purchased multiple pieces of bomb making materials and
discuss their.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Travel plans to the.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Desert Last, Friday december, twelfth the defendants took a significant
step to carry out their. Plans they traveled to the
remote campsite you're going to see some video of in
the desert and they began unloading their bomb making materials
to assemble and test the.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Bombs they had everything they needed to make.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
An operational bomb at that, location and they were subsequently
arrested by THE fbi before they could build a functional explosive.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Device shortly after.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The defendants were taken into, custody THE fbi executed multiple search,
warrants including at the defendant's Southern california residents and other
locations throughout the. Country i'll highlight some of the items
found during those searches over the. Weekend for, example In carroll's,
residence law enforcement found multiple posters and materials associated With
Turtle Island Liberation, front including posters stating quote death To,
(06:45):
america long Lived Turtle island And palestine end quote death To.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Ice Turtle Island Liberation.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Front In page's, residence law enforcement found a copy of
the detailed bomb attack. Plan this case is another reminder
about the dangers that Radicalized antifa like groups posed to
public safety and the rule of. Law through the tireless
work of our prosecutors in my office and our law enforcement,
(07:12):
partners which you will hear from, today we disrupted this
terror plot before buildings were demolished or innocent people were.
Killed but this is not the end of our. Work
my office is committed to extinguishing the far left terror
threats that we face and will continue to work twenty
four hours a, day seven days a. Week the for
defendants arrested will make their initial appearance this afternoon at.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
The Federal court in Downtown Los.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Angeles they are each considered innocent until proven. GUILTY i
will now turn it over to The Assistant director in
charge of THE FBI la office At Kille.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Davis all, right let's pause there just for a second
and talk about everything that we just heard. About this
is exactly WHAT i voted for With Donald. TRUMP i
want to be. Clear he said he was going to
hunt down those that were brought into this, country came
to this country. Illegally he said he was going to
do everything he could to keep us. Safe he wasn't
(08:07):
going to play political games putical. Correctness he was going
to allow law enforcement to do what law enforcement. Does
and that is exactly what we are witnessing right now.
Now this attack was one that was very close and
was on its way to being incredibly. Deadly it also
tells you about how many people are in this country right,
(08:29):
now and it'll be very interesting to see what we
find about the status of these, individuals but it does
tell you how many people are in this country right
now that want and are planning to do. Harm we
talked about the eighteen thousand the other. Day they talked
about that they believe are in this country that are
a threat to this. Country we talked about the fact
that there was real warnings about sleeper cells in this.
(08:52):
Country there are real problems with sleeper sales in this,
country and we know. It everyone knows. It that is
again part of the. Problem individuals self identified as members
of The Turtle Island Liberation. Front that is what we.
Know they are proud about what they believe, in and thank,
(09:13):
goodness over the, weekend THE fbi was able to disrupt
this credible and eminent terrorist, threat arresting the individuals connected
in The Los angeles. Area the intel also then spread
to another individual they arrested In New. Orleans it was
planning another attack there as. WELL i want to go
back to this press conference SOUND i want to play
for you part two about what we even what we
(09:35):
know now about a little bit of the motive and
who they were wanting to kill in this terrorist. Attack
again that's coming out Of. California.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Again my name Is Akille. Davis i'm the assistant director
in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles. Division as we're all,
aware we've had a busy weekend in this country and
abroad with bad news incidents one after. Another, today we
are announcing a major victory in our collect effort to
Protect american. People the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task force intercepted
(10:05):
a scheme by members of a violent extremist group we
believed determined to detonate explosives at multiple businesses On New
Year's eve Last. Friday THE fbi arrested four of those
subjects near twenty Nine palms In San Bernardino county while
they planned and rehearsed their. Attack the four subjects are
members of a radical faction of The Turtle Island Liberation FRONT,
(10:28):
tilf a, violent homegrown anti government. Group the subject arrested
envisioned planting backpacks with improvised explosive devices to be detonated
at multiple locations in Southern, california TARGETING us. Companies these
bombs were to blow up at the same time on
(10:48):
midnight This New Year's. Eve the plan stated that the
IDs would be complex pipe. Bombs it included instructions on
how to manufacture the bombs and contained guidance on how
to avoid leaving.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Evidence behind that could be traced back to.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Them our investigation uncovered evidence and that the group would
test the explosives in the, desert and we're going to
show footage of that here in a. Second we learned
that the alleged co conspiras had recently started acquiring precursor
chemicals and other items necessary to accomplish this. Task in recent,
days the alleged co conspiras discussed plans to travel to
(11:25):
the desert on the twelfth to detonate the. Explosives knowing,
lists the FBI's jttf and THE Fbi Los Angeles Field
office staged MULTIPLE swat, teams special agent bomb, technicians Our
Evidence Response, team along with the FBI's Elite Hostage Rescue
team in the desert to disrupt this plan before any
(11:46):
harm could. Occur because of, this we were able to
disrupt their. Plan all four group members were taken into
custody without. Incident THE tiolf instagram account publicly post content
that advocates for violence against The United states. OFFICIALS a
recent post called for a revolution and asked for supporters
(12:07):
to organize and be ready THE fbi as you have
seen here can also organize and be. Ready we could
not have accomplished these arrests without the exceptional assistance from
our partners on The Joint Terrorism Task. FORCE i specifically
want to thank the following agencies as you see up here,
today The Los Angeles County Sheriff's, department The Los Angeles Police,
(12:30):
department The Palm Springs Police, department along with The San
Bernardino County Sheriff's. DEPARTMENT i also want to recognize the
FOLLOWING fbi field, offices as this investigation crossed the entire,
country The New Orleans, division The Buffalo, Division Indianapolis, division
and The Boston, division, who as you all, know have
(12:50):
had their hands full this. Weekend in, fact an additional
wards wrest by our partners AT Fbi New orleans and
support of this. INVESTIGATION i will now turn it over
to The Los Angeles Police Chief jim.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Dung, well thank you and good, morning and we appreciate
your being here. Today Los Angeles Police department is proud
to stand alongside our, federal, state and local partners today
to announce the arrests stemming from a coordinated domestic terror.
Plot the case underscore is the persistent threat posed by
(13:24):
extremist groups and, individuals as well as the critical need
for law enforcement agencies to remain vigilant in protecting our.
Communities the successful disruption of this plot is a powerful
testament to the strength of our unified, response driven by
the collaboration and tireless efforts of the FBI's Joint Terrorism
Task force along with our allied. Agencies, together we have
(13:47):
prevented a potential tragedy and reaffirmed our shared commitment to
safeguarding our. COMMUNITIES i want to personally thank the dedicated
men and women from every agency. Involved their relentless work
over the past several days has ensured that those responsible
were apprehended swiftly and safely and without harm to our.
Neighborhoods thank you to call Up sheriff Of Los Angeles,
(14:11):
County Robert, Muna.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Well good morning, everybody and thank you for being here
to cover this WHAT i believe is a very very
important story for our. Community this successful operation was a
result of, quick proactive investigative, work AND i want to
emphasize strong collaboration and A dick Kill davis mentioned it
and gave credit to all the law enforcement here in Southern.
(14:34):
California it is better, here it always has been than
anywhere else in the. Country and we're very proud to
be part of The Joint Terrorism Task force FOR us
at The Sheriff's. Department we've been part of it since
after nine to. Eleven their ability to share intelligence across
(14:54):
multiple agencies investigating threats like this one is second to
none anywhere. Else the way we coordinate with partner agencies
and that quickly was critical to the success of this.
Operation and LIKE i said, before there's no other area
like here In La county with our partnership that has
(15:16):
been here for years with THE fbi AND lapd and
the other law enforcement agencies around. Us since this threat
was uncovered last, week Our Sheriff's Task force officers and intelligence,
analysts working closely with our law enforcement, partners have been
working around the clock to verify, information identify, targets and
(15:36):
piece together this plot that you've heard. Described their strong investigative,
efforts sharp situational, awareness and rapid response ensured that this
threat was stopped before it ever had a chance to
be carried. Out i'm, incredibly incredibly proud of the professionalism
and dedicated shown by the men and women who work
(15:56):
tireishly to bring this threat to an end before it
could cause arm to any anybody in our, community to our.
COMMUNITY i know hearing about these incidents like this can be,
unsettling especially in the light of the Recent Brown university
mass shooting and The Sydney Australia Sydney australia terrorist, attack
(16:18):
but today serves as a powerful reminder that strong collaboration between,
federal state and local enforcement law enforcement can prevent violence
before it. Occurs as we enter the holiday, season a
time when families and friends come together across, traditions, cultures and,
beliefs this incident is a stark reminder of the importance
(16:41):
of the of vigilance and to be prepared at all
times vigils whose goal is to divide, us to instill,
fear and to target the very diversity that makes our country.
STRONG i want to be very clear what you see.
Here this investigative work and the follow up that's been
done shows that they will not. Succeed our community's diversity
(17:06):
is our, strength and protecting every member of our community
is our primary. Duty whether you are Celebrating. Christmas Honika,
Kwanza new year's or simply gathering with loved. Ones you
deserve to feel. Safe we are committed to ensuring that
safety today and every. Day we remain dedicated to protecting
(17:27):
our entire community through ongoing intelligence gathering and threat, assessments
strengthening partnerships across all of our, agencies engaging with the
public to promote, awareness, vigilance and. Resilience let me.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Just pause there and say something THAT i love about
this press. Conference you hear the last person are. Talking
that's a man that is in charge with The Los
Angeles Shares. Department you notice how they're working with THE
fbi and other federal entities to make sure that this
is all done the right. WAY i can't tell you
(18:05):
how happy that makes me to see law enforcement working
together instead of what we've been witnessing in so many,
places which is law enforcement or elected officials refusing to
work with federal, authorities directing local law enforcement to not
honor ice, detainers for. Example at least on this, one
(18:27):
what we're witnessing at the moment is a real coordinated
effort to stop a terrorist. Attack put politics, aside because
politics has no business in this. CONVERSATION i mean no
business in it at, all AND i am thankful that
(18:49):
we are witnessing it right. Now. Now the question is
will anyone learn from? This on the, left will anybody
look at this and, say you know, what we really
really really really really really do need to learn from.
This that's a. QUESTION i don't. KNOW i don't know
what's going to, happen and we'll just have to. See
time will. Tell But god bless our men and women in,
uniform our men and women in law enforcement IN la
(19:12):
and In New orleans who said we are going to
do everything we can to Keep american. Safe the other
part of this is who else is in this country
playing the same damn? Thing and how do we find
them before they're successful in their? Attacks that is part
of the question that has to also be. Asked Operation
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if you're A, democrat apparently lying about the crime stats
to make it look like you're fighting crime is more
(20:39):
important than actually Saving american. Lives we now know that
is exactly what was happening In, washington D. C THE
Us Attorney Judge janeen said THAT dc authorities were literally
artificially deflating crime stats to manipulate the numbers to make
it look LIKE dc was safer than it actually. Was that's.
(21:03):
Right The United States attorney for The district Of columbia
saying that her office is investigation into The Metropolitan Police
department revealed widespread miss classification of crime reports that MADE
dc crime levels appear lower than they actually, were meaning fewer.
Victims THE Us attorney for The district Of columbia revealed
(21:26):
in a statement posted to her official ex account that
In august of twenty twenty, five The United States Attorney's
office IN dc began an investigation into The Metropolitan Police
department's reported deflation of crime. Statistics the need for accurate
information to fight, crime she went on to, say is,
(21:47):
essential but that wasn't What democrats were doing at all IN.
Dc they just wanted to lie to the people while
crime was out of, control saying it's not as bad
as you think it. Is she went on to say
this after review of almost six thousand reports and the
interview of over fifty, witnesses it is evident that a
(22:09):
significant number of reports had straight up been, misclassified making
crime appear artificially lower than. Reality, now the uncovering of
these manipulated crimes ctystics make clear That President trump has
reduced crime even more than originally, thought since crimes were
actually higher than. Reported his crime fighting efforts have delivered
(22:33):
even more safety to the people of The district Of.
Columbia Judge janine concluded that, quote while the conduct did
not rise to the level of a criminal, charge it
is up to THE mpd to take steps to internally
address these underlying. Issues even more about this has broken since,
(22:53):
then and the jaw dropping report has just come out
from The house just to confirm what we all. Knew
the left WING dc police chief falsified crime, statistics cooking
the books to make her city seem much safer than
it actually. Was take a listen to this From Fox.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Led A House Overside committee now releasing a report accusing
the OUTGOING dc police chief manipulating data to artificially lower crime.
Statistics Bill malusian looking at the. Numbers he's live on
The hill with, This. Bill what you find? Out, Bill
good morning to.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
You Those House Overside Committee republicans say the bottom line
of what their investigation found is that the OUTGOING dc
police chief was essentially cooking the books on crime data
and trying to make the city seem a whole lot.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Safer than it really.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Was, now Those House republicans say what their investigation consisted
of was interviewing all seven commanders OF Dc Metro police's patrol,
districts including a former commander who's currently suspended for allegedly
tampering with crime stats in his own. District these are
some of the conclusions they've made in their. Report they
alleged THAT Dc Metro Police Chief Pamela smith pressured commanders
(24:07):
to report lower crime stats by any means. Necessary the
commanders testified That Chief smith even pushed them to pursue
lesser charges that aren't publicly, reported even for serious, crimes
and she required certain crimes to be reviewed by her office.
Now the report also says police commanders testified That Chief
smith punished them and retaliated against them if they tried
(24:29):
to report, accurate rising crime, data even braiding them in
meetings and individually to pressure them into reporting those lower crime.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Figures.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
Now in a statement on the, Report House Overside Committee
Chairman James comer, says in part, Quote Chief Pamela smith
coerce staff to report artificially low crime data and cultivated
a culture of fear to a chief her, agenda.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
A culture of fear to attempt to attain her. Agenda
THE Dc Police chief the data she didn't actually fight.
Crime she just lied about the crime, stats pressuring the
commanders to report lower crime, statistics pushed them to pursue
(25:15):
lesser charges for serious, crimes required certain crimes to actually
be reviewed by our. Office not because she was afraid
of what was happening on the streets in the district Of. Columbia, no, no,
no no, no so that she could misclassify them so
it wouldn't seem as dangerous and retaliated and punished individuals
(25:37):
if they reported crimes. Accurately you look at this data
and you hear WHAT i just played for. You it
is shocking to know that this was how things are being.
Run we found out even more From Fox News channel
about all of this in a later report in the.
(25:58):
Afternoon take a, listen all, right and.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Moments, AGO Us Attorney Janin piro here In, washington D.
C responding to allegations THE dc crime data was manipulated
by the outgoing police, Chief Pamela. Smith that claim coming
from a New House Oversight committee. Report our congressional Corresponded
Bill maloji and with the latest On Capitol, Hill bill Well.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
John republicans on The House Oversight committee say their investigation
concluded that this OUTGOING dc police chief was trying to
make the city seem a whole lot safer than it really,
was and she was doing it by allegedly cooking the
books on crime. Statistics so The republicans on the committee
say their investigation consisted of interviewing seven DIFFERENT Dc Metro
(26:43):
police commanders who represent all of the patrol districts out.
Here that included a former commander who's currently suspended for
allegedly tampering with crime stats in his own. District and
these are some of the conclusions they've made in their.
Report number, one they alleged THAT Dc Metro Police Chief
Pamela smith pressured commanders to report lower crime stats by
(27:03):
any means. Necessary commanders testified That Chief smith pushed them
to pursue lesser charges that aren't publicly, reported even for serious,
crimes and she also required certain crimes to be.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Reviewed by her.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Office in a statement on this, Report House Overside Committee
Chairman James comer, says in part, Quote Chief Pamela smith
coerced staff to report artificially low crime data and cultivated
a culture of fear to achieve her. Agenda Chief smith's
decision to mislead the public by manipulating crime stats is
dangerous and undermined trust in both local leadership and law. Enforcement,
(27:38):
MEANWHILE Dc Mayor Muriel bowser was asked to respond to
The House Overside Committee republicans' findings earlier this. Morning take a.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
LISTEN i don't see any evidence of that if the claim,
is AND i don't think anybody is demonstrated that the
police chief directed anybody to change numbers when those when
the committee provides me their backup, information which they haven't
when the committee provided the report to The Washington post
(28:04):
before they provided it to. Us highly unusual when you're
talking about an audit of numbers and.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
John just moments, ago THE Us attorney here IN, Dc Janine,
piro responded to this. Report she put out a statement
on x which essentially says that, yes these crime stats were,
manipulated and the manipulation of that data shows That President
trump has reduced crime here IN dc a whole lot
more than initially. Thought she went on to say that
what happened here with the crime stats does not rise
(28:35):
to the level of any criminal charges or a, crime
but that THE Dc Police department has to change their
practices moving. Forward well send it back to.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You, YEAH i know.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
That before everything changed in the, summer we were all, hearing,
well the crime is down IN, dc and none of
us said anything to peg that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Toos none of us had any of that to peg it.
To so THE dc police chief manipulating the crime, data
artificially lowering the crime stats and coerced staff to report
low data and cultivated a culture of fear to achieve
her agenda and didn't punish the. Criminals she punished THE
(29:11):
dc police officers to pursue lesser charges for serious. Crimes
this is The Democratic party and it's exactly Why Donald
trump won the. Election it's also exactly why he's fighting
crime all over the country and sending in The National,
guard because even in cities Where democrats claim crime was,
(29:32):
dropping they were flat out lying and cooking the. Books
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