1. Senator Rand Paul's Criminal Referral of Dr. Anthony Fauci
- Context: Senator Paul has reissued a criminal referral to the DOJ against Dr. Fauci, citing perjury related to his 2021 Senate testimony on gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
- Controversy: The referral is tied to President Biden’s use of an autopen to sign pardons, including one for Fauci. If the autopen-signed pardons are ruled invalid, Fauci could face prosecution.
- Allegations: Fauci allegedly misled Congress about NIH funding for gain-of-function research.
- Political Angle: The Trump administration is portrayed as cooperative in pursuing the investigation, while the Biden administration is accused of obstruction.
2. Supreme Court Ruling on the Department of Education
- Issue: The Trump administration’s plan to shut down the Department of Education and return control to the states.
- Ruling: The Supreme Court (6-3 decision) lifted an injunction, allowing layoffs of over 1,300 employees and enabling the department’s closure to proceed.
- Reactions:
- Supporters: Frame it as a win for parents, students, and educational reform.
- Dissenters: Warn of executive overreach and erosion of separation of powers.
- Next Steps: Programs like special education and student loans are being transferred to other federal agencies.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Autopen, I think is maybe one of the biggest
scandals that we've had in fifty to one hundred years.
This is a tremendous scandal. The people on the other
side of the Resolute Desk I know them, Lisa, the
Hall Group, and then No Good. I guarantee he knew
nothing about what he was saying. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good Tuesday morning. It's nice to have you, whether it's
on the forty seven Morning Update. And here are the
big stories that we're talking about. First up, Center Ran
Paul has formally relaunched efforts to bring criminal charges against
doctor Anthony Fauci, connecting the initiative to the autopen questions
around Biden's pardons that included Anthony Fauci. This all relating
(00:47):
to gain a function research testimony and the Wuhan Institute
of Virology. We'll give you the latest on that in
just a second. Also, in a major move, the Supreme
Court has stepped in the President's planned to shut down
the Department of Education, returning educations back to the States,
(01:08):
and the left has gone completely unhinged. It's the forty
seven Morning Update, and it starts.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Right now story number one.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It is a major move that many of you listening
will be very excited about. Senator Ran Paul, the Republican
from Kentucky, has now reissued a criminal referral to the
Department of Justice concerning doctor Anthony Fauci, and it was
prompted by recent revelations about President Joe Biden's use of
an autopen to sign pardon documents, including doctor Anthony Fauci's.
(01:42):
What we know is that Senator Paul went to X
and said this today, I reissue my criminal referral of
doctor Anthony Fauci to Trump's DOJ. Perjury is a crime
and Fauci must be held accountable. Paul's argument is simple.
If Biden's autopen pardon is invalid, then the DOJ can
(02:03):
still pursue Fauci for perjury relating to his May twenty
twenty one Senate testimony about US funded gain of function
research in Wuhan. Now, Fauci originally testified that the NIH
never funded gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute
(02:25):
of Eurology. However, later emails surface suggesting otherwise, leading Senator
Paul to accuse Fauci of lying to Congress and lying
under oath. So what are the legal implications. Well, if
a pardon is invalidated by courts due to auto pen concerns,
Fauci could theoretically be prosecuted perjury before Congress, carries penalties
(02:49):
of up to five years in prison plus finds. There's
also another point here. Paul originally referred Fauci the DOJ
in July of twenty twenty three. That's how confident he
was in the case. After the House Coronavirus Committee released
the internal emails suggesting Fauci knew about the risky virus
(03:09):
research being done in Wuhan and our dollars going to
that institute. Now, Biden issued what was described as a
quote preemptive pardon of Fauci and other officials at the
end of his term, a move potentially undermined if courts
ruled that the Autopen signatures are in fact invalid. So
(03:30):
the bottom line is this Center Paul has formally relaunched
efforts to bring the criminal charges against Fauci, connecting the
initiative to the Autopen questions around Biden's pardons overall, and
the key is this whether or not these autopen signed
pardons hold up legally. Fauci's legal accountability now rests partially
(03:51):
on potential court challenges to those pardons and on interpretations
of what gain of function definitions are. Now here's one
other thing you need to know. Senator Paul says it's
nice that he actually is getting to work with the
Trump administration on this as the kriminal referral over Fauci
is ongoing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Hey, Trump administration two point I was back in charge.
Are you hopeful that they actually get to the bottom
of COVID nineteen. You know, we're excited about the Trump
administration actually helping. We've been through several years of the
Biden administration actually trying to hide the ball, covering up
what had happened, obscuring the truth, and really refusing to
give any records concerning this. I've been trying for over
(04:32):
three years to get non classified records about the decision
to fund the research in wu On, and it's been denied.
But I can tell you under Secretary Kennedy, under Jay Baticharia,
the records are beginning to flow, and what we're discovering is, yes,
they did debate over whether or not it was gain
of function. Fauci said, everybody said it was not gain
(04:52):
of function. Well, we're going to forget to the bottom
of this, and ultimately doctor Faucie's going to need to
come back in and explain why he made this decision.
There ultimately will be an interview, either voluntarily or involuntarily.
If he won't come, he will have to come back
explain to the American people why he decided to fund
this research in China. This may be one of the
greatest medical errors in modern history, and he bears a
(05:18):
large part of the responsibility for this.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Sure and it doesn't stop with the D and I.
President Trump signing an executive order ending all the president
and all future federal funding of gain a function research
in for nations like China. Ron, what are your thoughts
on this executive order signed by the President?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know, I think it's a great idea. It's going
to ultimately need to be followed up by changing the law.
I have a bipartisan bill that passed last session unanimously.
I'm going to pass it again out of committee as well,
and I'm hoping that we can make legislation occur. The
reason you need legislation is if one administration fixes it,
the next administration just come in and unfixes it or
(06:01):
takes away the reform. So really what we need to
do is have law, and we actually have some bipartisan
support for reform legislation. My legislation would let President Trump
create a commission or a council of scientists that would
oversee this. The reason you need a council to make
active decisions is people divine gain a function in different ways.
(06:22):
Anthony Fauci said, well, the reason the research and we
want didn't get extra scrutiny is he defined it as
not being gain a function. Now, almost everybody disagrees with him,
but that's what he did, is he defined away the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And that is exactly why he's saying he's going to
have to come back before Congress. It's also the reason
why he's looking at the pardon and the autopen use
and Senator Paul making it clear that reissuing his criminal
referral to the Department of Justice for doctor Anthony Fauci
after his pardoner was confirmed to be issued by a
late night autopen is going to be a very interesting
(06:56):
story moving forward, and we're going to cover.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It for you, number two.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
President Trump campaigned on getting education public education back to
the States and back to the local municipalities, and most importantly,
giving the power back to the parents to get their
kids the best education possible. He also said he was
going to shut down the Department of Education. Linda McMahon
had the job of doing exactly that, but the left
(07:22):
decided to step in with injunctions to stop her from
doing that job. Well, now the Supreme Court has come
down with their ruling. It was a six' three ruling
lifting a lower court injunction that had blocked the administration
from laying off about one thy four hundred, employees nearly
one third of The department Of education. Workforce this ruling
(07:45):
temporarily green Lights Donald Trump's march executive order directing The
secretary Of Education linda McMahon to quote take all necessary
steps to close the department to the fullest extent possible
via state of. Action, now six concertative justices allowed the
layoffs to proceed while litigation continues in the lower. Courts
(08:08):
Justice sotomayor Joined Atlanta kagan And jackson dissenting, strongly warning
that these decisions enable executive lawlessness as they described, it
and erodes the separation of powers by allowing a de
facto dismantling of a congressional agency via unilateral staffing. Cuts,
yes the left is all in to try to Stop
(08:30):
Donald trump from getting kids a better. Education, now The
High court paused this preliminary injunction that went into effect
by THE Us District, judge a judge who was A
biden appointee In, boston that ordered the employees be. Reinstated,
quote The United States Supreme court has headed a major
victory to parents and students across the country by declaring
(08:53):
The trump administration may proceed on returning the functions of
The department Of education back to The, states is What
Donald trump wrote in a post On True Social he
went on to, say, now with this Great Supreme court,
decision Our secretary Of, Education elena, McMahon may begin the
very important, process saying the federal government has been running
(09:16):
our education system into the, ground but we are going
to turn it all around by giving the power back
to the. People trump went on to, Say america's students
will be the, best be the, brightest and be the
most highly educated anywhere in the. World thank you to
The United States Supreme court now The Supreme court six
or three ruling came in that dispute that begins shortly
(09:37):
after The Education department On march the eleventh announcer reduction
of force involving oney three hundred and seventy eight. Employees
McMahon said in a news release that the staff reductions
reflected The department Of education's commitment to quote, efficiency, accountability
and ensuring that resources are directed where they matter most
to the, students to the, parents and to the. Teacher
(10:00):
trump issued that executive order nine days later that Instructed
man to take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure
of The department Of, education and On march twenty, first
he announced that the programs For students with special needs
and The Federal Student Loan portfolio would be transferred from
The department Of education to The department Of health And
(10:20):
Human services and The Small Business, administration. Respectively that is
when a group of twenty states in The district Of
columbia to public school districts and teachers' unions filed a
federal lawsuit In massachusetts arguing the staff reductions violated The
constitution and the federal laws governing administrative, agencies yet, again
(10:42):
putting the teachers' union ahead of the parents and most,
importantly the. Students Now secretary Of education McMahon put this
out On, acts, saying, quote today The Supreme court again
confirmed the. Obvious The president of The United states Of,
america as the head of the exact executive, branch has
the ultimate authority to make decisions about staffing, levels administrative,
(11:05):
organization and day to day operations of federal. Agencies while
today's ruling is a significant win for students and, families
it is a shame that the highest court in the
land had to step in to Allow President trump to
advance the Reforms americans elected him to deliver using the
authorities granted to him by OUR Us. Constitution she went
on to, say THE Us department Of education will now
(11:28):
deliver on its mandate to restore excellence In american. Education
we will carry out the reduction of force to promote
efficiency and, accountability and to ensure resources are directed where
they matter most to, students, parents and. Teachers as we
return education to The, States this administration will continue to
(11:48):
perform all statutory duties while empowering families and teachers by
reducing education bureaucracy yet, again The President United states Of
america not backing down and making sure That american students
have a chance to succeed instead of being in a
total failing system with a federal government that has done
(12:10):
anything but give them a great.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Education thank you for listening to the forty Seven Morning
update With Ben. Ferguson please make sure you hit subscribe
wherever you're listening to this podcast right now and for
more in depth, news also subscribe to The Ben ferguson
podcast and we will see you back here. Tomorrow
The Autopen, I think is maybe one of the biggest
scandals that we've had in fifty to one hundred years.
This is a tremendous scandal. The people on the other
side of the Resolute Desk I know them, Lisa, the
Hall Group, and then No Good. I guarantee he knew
nothing about what he was saying. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good Tuesday morning. It's nice to have you, whether it's
on the forty seven Morning Update. And here are the
big stories that we're talking about. First up, Center Ran
Paul has formally relaunched efforts to bring criminal charges against
doctor Anthony Fauci, connecting the initiative to the autopen questions
around Biden's pardons that included Anthony Fauci. This all relating
(00:47):
to gain a function research testimony and the Wuhan Institute
of Virology. We'll give you the latest on that in
just a second. Also, in a major move, the Supreme
Court has stepped in the President's planned to shut down
the Department of Education, returning educations back to the States,
(01:08):
and the left has gone completely unhinged. It's the forty
seven Morning Update, and it starts.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Right now story number one.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It is a major move that many of you listening
will be very excited about. Senator Ran Paul, the Republican
from Kentucky, has now reissued a criminal referral to the
Department of Justice concerning doctor Anthony Fauci, and it was
prompted by recent revelations about President Joe Biden's use of
an autopen to sign pardon documents, including doctor Anthony Fauci's.
(01:42):
What we know is that Senator Paul went to X
and said this today, I reissue my criminal referral of
doctor Anthony Fauci to Trump's DOJ. Perjury is a crime
and Fauci must be held accountable. Paul's argument is simple.
If Biden's autopen pardon is invalid, then the DOJ can
(02:03):
still pursue Fauci for perjury relating to his May twenty
twenty one Senate testimony about US funded gain of function
research in Wuhan. Now, Fauci originally testified that the NIH
never funded gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute
(02:25):
of Eurology. However, later emails surface suggesting otherwise, leading Senator
Paul to accuse Fauci of lying to Congress and lying
under oath. So what are the legal implications. Well, if
a pardon is invalidated by courts due to auto pen concerns,
Fauci could theoretically be prosecuted perjury before Congress, carries penalties
(02:49):
of up to five years in prison plus finds. There's
also another point here. Paul originally referred Fauci the DOJ
in July of twenty twenty three. That's how confident he
was in the case. After the House Coronavirus Committee released
the internal emails suggesting Fauci knew about the risky virus
(03:09):
research being done in Wuhan and our dollars going to
that institute. Now, Biden issued what was described as a
quote preemptive pardon of Fauci and other officials at the
end of his term, a move potentially undermined if courts
ruled that the Autopen signatures are in fact invalid. So
(03:30):
the bottom line is this Center Paul has formally relaunched
efforts to bring the criminal charges against Fauci, connecting the
initiative to the Autopen questions around Biden's pardons overall, and
the key is this whether or not these autopen signed
pardons hold up legally. Fauci's legal accountability now rests partially
(03:51):
on potential court challenges to those pardons and on interpretations
of what gain of function definitions are. Now here's one
other thing you need to know. Senator Paul says it's
nice that he actually is getting to work with the
Trump administration on this as the kriminal referral over Fauci
is ongoing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Hey, Trump administration two point I was back in charge.
Are you hopeful that they actually get to the bottom
of COVID nineteen. You know, we're excited about the Trump
administration actually helping. We've been through several years of the
Biden administration actually trying to hide the ball, covering up
what had happened, obscuring the truth, and really refusing to
give any records concerning this. I've been trying for over
(04:32):
three years to get non classified records about the decision
to fund the research in wu On, and it's been denied.
But I can tell you under Secretary Kennedy, under Jay Baticharia,
the records are beginning to flow, and what we're discovering is, yes,
they did debate over whether or not it was gain
of function. Fauci said, everybody said it was not gain
(04:52):
of function. Well, we're going to forget to the bottom
of this, and ultimately doctor Faucie's going to need to
come back in and explain why he made this decision.
There ultimately will be an interview, either voluntarily or involuntarily.
If he won't come, he will have to come back
explain to the American people why he decided to fund
this research in China. This may be one of the
greatest medical errors in modern history, and he bears a
(05:18):
large part of the responsibility for this.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Sure and it doesn't stop with the D and I.
President Trump signing an executive order ending all the president
and all future federal funding of gain a function research
in for nations like China. Ron, what are your thoughts
on this executive order signed by the President?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know, I think it's a great idea. It's going
to ultimately need to be followed up by changing the law.
I have a bipartisan bill that passed last session unanimously.
I'm going to pass it again out of committee as well,
and I'm hoping that we can make legislation occur. The
reason you need legislation is if one administration fixes it,
the next administration just come in and unfixes it or
(06:01):
takes away the reform. So really what we need to
do is have law, and we actually have some bipartisan
support for reform legislation. My legislation would let President Trump
create a commission or a council of scientists that would
oversee this. The reason you need a council to make
active decisions is people divine gain a function in different ways.
(06:22):
Anthony Fauci said, well, the reason the research and we
want didn't get extra scrutiny is he defined it as
not being gain a function. Now, almost everybody disagrees with him,
but that's what he did, is he defined away the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And that is exactly why he's saying he's going to
have to come back before Congress. It's also the reason
why he's looking at the pardon and the autopen use
and Senator Paul making it clear that reissuing his criminal
referral to the Department of Justice for doctor Anthony Fauci
after his pardoner was confirmed to be issued by a
late night autopen is going to be a very interesting
(06:56):
story moving forward, and we're going to cover.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It for you, number two.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
President Trump campaigned on getting education public education back to
the States and back to the local municipalities, and most importantly,
giving the power back to the parents to get their
kids the best education possible. He also said he was
going to shut down the Department of Education. Linda McMahon
had the job of doing exactly that, but the left
(07:22):
decided to step in with injunctions to stop her from
doing that job. Well, now the Supreme Court has come
down with their ruling. It was a six' three ruling
lifting a lower court injunction that had blocked the administration
from laying off about one thy four hundred, employees nearly
one third of The department Of education. Workforce this ruling
(07:45):
temporarily green Lights Donald Trump's march executive order directing The
secretary Of Education linda McMahon to quote take all necessary
steps to close the department to the fullest extent possible
via state of. Action, now six concertative justices allowed the
layoffs to proceed while litigation continues in the lower. Courts
(08:08):
Justice sotomayor Joined Atlanta kagan And jackson dissenting, strongly warning
that these decisions enable executive lawlessness as they described, it
and erodes the separation of powers by allowing a de
facto dismantling of a congressional agency via unilateral staffing. Cuts,
yes the left is all in to try to Stop
(08:30):
Donald trump from getting kids a better. Education, now The
High court paused this preliminary injunction that went into effect
by THE Us District, judge a judge who was A
biden appointee In, boston that ordered the employees be. Reinstated,
quote The United States Supreme court has headed a major
victory to parents and students across the country by declaring
(08:53):
The trump administration may proceed on returning the functions of
The department Of education back to The, states is What
Donald trump wrote in a post On True Social he
went on to, say, now with this Great Supreme court,
decision Our secretary Of, Education elena, McMahon may begin the
very important, process saying the federal government has been running
(09:16):
our education system into the, ground but we are going
to turn it all around by giving the power back
to the. People trump went on to, Say america's students
will be the, best be the, brightest and be the
most highly educated anywhere in the. World thank you to
The United States Supreme court now The Supreme court six
or three ruling came in that dispute that begins shortly
(09:37):
after The Education department On march the eleventh announcer reduction
of force involving oney three hundred and seventy eight. Employees
McMahon said in a news release that the staff reductions
reflected The department Of education's commitment to quote, efficiency, accountability
and ensuring that resources are directed where they matter most
to the, students to the, parents and to the. Teacher
(10:00):
trump issued that executive order nine days later that Instructed
man to take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure
of The department Of, education and On march twenty, first
he announced that the programs For students with special needs
and The Federal Student Loan portfolio would be transferred from
The department Of education to The department Of health And
(10:20):
Human services and The Small Business, administration. Respectively that is
when a group of twenty states in The district Of
columbia to public school districts and teachers' unions filed a
federal lawsuit In massachusetts arguing the staff reductions violated The
constitution and the federal laws governing administrative, agencies yet, again
(10:42):
putting the teachers' union ahead of the parents and most,
importantly the. Students Now secretary Of education McMahon put this
out On, acts, saying, quote today The Supreme court again
confirmed the. Obvious The president of The United states Of,
america as the head of the exact executive, branch has
the ultimate authority to make decisions about staffing, levels administrative,
(11:05):
organization and day to day operations of federal. Agencies while
today's ruling is a significant win for students and, families
it is a shame that the highest court in the
land had to step in to Allow President trump to
advance the Reforms americans elected him to deliver using the
authorities granted to him by OUR Us. Constitution she went
on to, say THE Us department Of education will now
(11:28):
deliver on its mandate to restore excellence In american. Education
we will carry out the reduction of force to promote
efficiency and, accountability and to ensure resources are directed where
they matter most to, students, parents and. Teachers as we
return education to The, States this administration will continue to
(11:48):
perform all statutory duties while empowering families and teachers by
reducing education bureaucracy yet, again The President United states Of
america not backing down and making sure That american students
have a chance to succeed instead of being in a
total failing system with a federal government that has done
(12:10):
anything but give them a great.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Education thank you for listening to the forty Seven Morning
update With Ben. Ferguson please make sure you hit subscribe
wherever you're listening to this podcast right now and for
more in depth, news also subscribe to The Ben ferguson
podcast and we will see you back here. Tomorrow
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