October 1, 2025 • 33 mins
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Shutdown occurred after Congress failed to pass funding past September 30.
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Cruz argues Democrats deliberately blocked a CR to appease their progressive base.
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Senate Dynamics:
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A CR passed the House but failed in the Senate, receiving 55 votes instead of the required 60.
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Three Democrats (Fetterman, Cortez Masto, Angus King) voted with Republicans to keep government open.
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Partisan Framing:
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Democrats are motivated by hatred of Trump and internal party pressures.
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Schumer is depicted as fearing a primary challenge from AOC and pandering to the left wing.
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Policy Disputes:
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Republicans claim Democrats demanded benefits such as free healthcare for undocumented immigrants and removal of work requirements for welfare.
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The conversation suggests these were “unrealistic demands” meant only as political theater.
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Impact of Shutdown:
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Essential services (military, law enforcement, FAA) continue, but workers go unpaid temporarily.
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Nonessential services like national parks and Smithsonian museums shut down.
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Political Messaging:
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Cruz and the host argue this is the “Schumer shutdown,” not a bipartisan failure.
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They highlight Democrat statements from past years criticizing shutdown tactics, suggesting hypocrisy.
- WATCH WH Hakeem Jeffries VIDEO HERE
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Strategic Angle:
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The Trump administration is said to plan permanent layoffs (“reduction in force”) of federal bureaucrats during the shutdown, targeting those seen as left-leaning.
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This is framed as a strategic opportunity to reshape the federal workforce.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is official at twelve oh one am. The governments
shut down. Why because Democrats are holding Americans hostage, refusing
to do what Republicans did seven times during the Biden
administration simply agreed to a continuing resolution until the broader
government plan, the financial plan could be agreed to. But
(00:24):
this time the Democrats said no. Why they want to
hurt Americans and they want to put illegal immigrants first.
We have a lot to talk about when it comes
to what all happened. And now this all comes down
to the Senate because the overall plan has already made
its way out of the House.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So what is next?
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government is shut down right now, and the question is
(02:55):
where do we go from here. I want you to
hear what Senator Cruz had to say, because all this
revolved around what's happening in the Senate. The United States
government is shut down. The Democrats they did it on purpose,
apparently it was their plan. And the question is for
how long have they been planning on doing this? Center
This is going to be a very interesting show. This
(03:16):
all revolves around the Senate. That is something that maybe
some people don't realize. Everything's come out of the House.
We're now to the Senate side of things, and I
want you to explain what it was like in the
hours leading up to the shutdown. Was there ever a
chance in hell that the government wasn't going to shut down?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No, that there was never a chance. It is just
after midnight, so the government is shut down just for
a few minutes. But I think the government shutdown is
going to last at a minimum of days. It may
be weeks, and it may even be longer. Really, yes,
this could extend for a significant period of time. And
(03:57):
understand this is the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump.
So I got to say. We had the vote tonight.
There was no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome. Out of
one hundred senators, all of us knew the outcome. The
vote was fifty five to forty five. So three Democrat
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senators voted to keep the government open.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You have it was a pretty big deal, right, I mean,
did you think those three were going to go?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Where? Did you think it was going to be a
unanimous vote?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I mean Fetterman and two others like that's that is significant.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, look, Fetterman, I was not surprised. So Fetterman voted
to keep the government open, courtes Master voter to keep
the government open, and Angus King voted to keep the
government open. That's not shocking to me. It's fifty five
to forty five. Now, why did the government shut down? Look,
the basic operation of government is the federal government cannot
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continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds. Under the Constitution,
Congress has the power of the perse, so Congress appropriates
the spending of money. A typical fiscal year is October
first to September thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
YEP.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
spend money expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
of ways you can extend the government funding.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
One is an.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Appropriation and so they're typically in a good year. They
are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind of
major segment of government. For a number of years, the
appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way that
government authorization occurs is through what are called crs. CR
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is short for continual resolution. A continued resolution is essentially
Congress saying what we are spending now, now we can
continue continue the status quo identically for x period of time. Now,
the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR
to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
(06:13):
So if the Senate had passed it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh, let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
When you say a clean CR, that means no political
shenanigans in it. It's literally saying, we're taking the twenty
five budget year and we're going to say the exact
same amount we spent in August, we're gonna spend September, October,
November until we get the new budget. There is no
port barrel extras, there's no political sag against from either side.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yes, yes, yes, okay. A clean CR says what we
spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow, that everything just
continues the same, and that's what the House has passed. Now.
The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
is in the nature of an appropriations or a CR,
it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've
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got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
as I mentioned, we got fifty five, we got three Democrats,
but we need sixty, which means we need at least
seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes
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to fund the government. Well we only got three.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And that was on purpose.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And I want to pause just for a second to
go back to the cr historically. Let's just go back
to Biden's time in office when you guys were in
the minority. If I'm not mistaken, you guys did this
more than a dozen times where you came to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Go and say, hey, matained a thirteen time.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
All right, So thirteen different times y'all came together and
said we're gonna spend exactly what we spent yesterday to
keep the government open so we avoid a government shut down.
And you put the America can people ahead of politics,
and that is a bipartisan moment, right, They had to
have some of your votes.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So look, every time we came to the end of
government funding, you would have enough Republicans join with Democrats
to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
several months ago we had another expiration of government funding.
And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, okay,
let's keep the government going a very reasonable and very
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common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
base lost their mind and Chuck Schumer nearly lost his
job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded several
months ago. The left wing rose up against him. And
you want to understand why we have a shutdown. It's
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one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and
he sees AOC running up behind him, and he is
terrified he's going to lose his job. So listen, Schumer
knows this is not going to work. He knows this
is failures.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So the radical left wing, they hate Trump and they
want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
entire government down because rar that's what we're watching now.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
By the way, So then hold on, when did this
become the plan?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Was this weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Months ago? Was this when they had the last year?
As I got the next time it comes up, I
have no choice. I got to shut down the government
to flex my muscles. And also there is a real
concern by him that AOC is going to run against him,
primary him in the Senate. By the way, that is
after the next president's election cycle?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And that isn't he up two years after? If I'm
not mistaken, So you got five plus years from now.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So, and to be clear, I have predicted on this
podcast the inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for
President campaign is Chuck Schumer because he is desperate for
AOC not to primary him. Yea, He's gonna say, Alexandra,
you are such a big deal, you were so important. Really,
the Senate's too small for you. Why do you want
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to bother being in the Senate? You should be in
the White House. Schumer is going to be all in
on that, but he is living with absolute PTSD. He
is traumatized. He sees left wing antifa crazies coming around
on every side, and so from his end, this shutdown
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is necessary politically. Now, what did the Democrats demand? They
demanded a lot of things, you know what the number
one demand was.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
By the way, I mean, when you think about that
and the polling data and what it says, I don't
understand why that would make your nonumber one thing, because
it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
our borders, stopping government waste for aunt of abuse dogs
was a big part of it. And also making sure
that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants. So like, no, no, no, no,
we want to spend one point five trillion if you
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want our votes, and it has to be for health
care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work. That's
another thing, and they're like, no, no, no, we buy gal.
You better get mind to people that are just straight
up lazy, that aren't that that have the ability to work,
but you got to pay them to stay home.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah. A huge pump chunk of this is getting rid
of the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want
anyone to have to work. They wanted them to be
able to sit at home and get government checks. But
did you see the AI video the White House put out?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Which one? They put out a couple different things. Which
one are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I want you, I want I want to play this
for everyone. Okay, this is fake, So so all the
nattering nabobs, this is fake news, but it is absolutely hysterical.
The White House put out This is Chuck Schumer and
a Keem Jeffries explaining what this shutdown is all about.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes
Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all
of our woke trans bullsh Not even black people want
to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So we need new voters.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And if we give all these illegal aliens free healthcare,
we might be able to get them on our side
so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English,
so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke
pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while
until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
See, this is when I love AI. This is when
I absolutely love the spear from the President. And if
you can't see this, you need to go look at it.
We put up on social media, the videos and Jeffries
has got a really nice Hannibar mustache and a sombrero on.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So look, pause for a second and realize that was
released by the White House. That was released by the
President of the United States. I feel a little guilty
because we've got some cursewords in there. We try to
avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do you do
when the president has put that out?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You pay it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And I gotta say the video sits today at lunch.
So every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, all the Republican senators
have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
at the White House. And so Thune was giving us
a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,
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the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
I raised my hand.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I question.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I said, John was a King Jeffries wearing the sombrero.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And what did he say?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He just laughed. But look and and everyone cracked up.
But that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down
the federal government because they want free health care for
every illegal alien in America. Yeah, you want to talk about,
like on every issue that's eighty twenty or even ninety ten,
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they're on the twenty or the ten side. The American
people do not support if you want to have a
referendum in this country, should we give illegals free health care? Wow?
That will be overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But here's the secret.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
This shutdown is not actually about free health care for illegals.
That's what the Democrats have hung their hat on because
they got to say they want.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Some they gotta say something, right.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
This is all about just we hate Donald Trump and
it is Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means
the end of this. Okay, there's no universe in which
Chuck Schumer will get President Trump to agree to let's
give free health care to illegals.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, not going to happen. They know that, Yeah, they're entering.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
There's no universe in which Republicans in Congress are going
to say, hey, that's a great idea, let's give free
health care to every illegal. Like that's you might as
well ask for Area fifty one, like to release the
Martians and let them take over the country. That is
as likely to happen as free health care for illegals
from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is not about
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getting what they're demanding. This is about how long do
they want to demonstrate Orange Man bade and so.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Do you actually believe And let's go back to the
history of the Senate here. I don't believe that Chuck
Schumer actually wanted to shut down the government now, No,
I think he was forced to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
job if the government was Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
In other words, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Chuck Schumer is being held hostage by the Marxist communists
and socialists in his party, which they did not police
and they allowed to take over their party. Then he's
now holding the American people hostage with a government shutdown,
which brings me the big question. Even when we've had
shutdowns in the past, there has been some agreement center like, hey,
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certain people should deserve to get paid, those that are
in the military, those badges, like the list is not
that long, but the essential important people that deserve to
get a paycheck. We don't screw with them when they're
protecting to fing this country. Can you guys, at least
was there an agreement to pay them?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Really?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, so walk us through that, because I'm assuming that
came up at lunch.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So one of the things I did today is I
sent a letter because under the Constitution, members of Congress,
our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
elected to. So I sent a letter, and I've done
this during every shutdown, saying while the government is shut down,
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don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
lose my pay when the shutdown is over.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I'll get it's just deferred. But it's deferred.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But a lot of people don't understand that the long
which I think just asinine, and I have family members
work in the federal government, and they're like, the dumb
part about this that I think a lot of Americans
don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss a paycheck
in your calendar year. You just miss a month and
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then you get it back data, you get it back
the next time whenever the government does open back up.
And so I know people that are in the FA
for example, they're like, dude, we just plan our vacations
like great trips around shutdowns because we know we're still
getting paid. We save not everybody can do that, but
like they've all was pre planned for this bonus vacation
and they're gonna get paid back.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure
number one, government shut down as a misnomer. More than
eighty percent of the government will continue to operate. So
the basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going.
So the military, our activity and military like defending the
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nation against bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching criminals,
that keeps going. The border patrol and ice that keeps going.
The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you get on
an airplane, the air traffic controllers all go to work.
By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
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a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two
weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers, coast guardsmen, military,
the federal government nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
show down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
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remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut down.
Then remember Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress were fighting
with Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for a
number of weeks, and I remember there was a headline
that said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent of
their employees is essential and seventy percent is not essential.
I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
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benchline all those non essential. That's seventy percent they ought
to be done. But what that means, so what will
be shut down? Starting October one? National parks will be
shut down. So I got to say, if you were
planning to take your family to Yosemite this weekend, I'm
sorry to say you're out of luck. Yosemite will be closed.
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If you were coming to d C to tour our
nation's capital, you wanted to go to the Smithsonian, go
to the Air and Space Museum, it's the Smithsonian will
be shut down.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
If you look at things like the National Institute of Health,
like research on cancer, much of that will be shut down.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
All across that's non essential. When people are just say
that seems insane. Why wouldn't we fix that to make
sure when we have these shenanigans happen that that's not affected.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And I think this shutdown will extend. I think it'll
be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
to protect his own rear end and everything else is
secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
we will see an extended shutdown.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So is this polling?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I mean, how do you decide when you won or
you lost if you're Schumer, Because this is not about
the country hating Schumer. This is only about New York.
I'm protecting a seat from AOC. So in essence, you
don't care how many people hate you in the country.
It's only a New York thing, is that. I mean, well,
they do polling. I mean this is weird.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah. Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
and I gotta say the Democrats are losing the messaging battle.
It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown. There was
actually exchange right before we had the vote on the
CR to keep the government open, and this is a
clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is just keep
every keep the lights on, status quo. Schumer stood up
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and was speaking, and all the senators or most of
us were standing on the Senate floor, and Schumer said, look,
there's been reference to polling. But the polling has been biased.
It's been right wing polling, for example, the New York Times.
And I got to tell you, I and every other
Republican we just started cracking up, laughing, and you could
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see Schumer. He actually turned red. He looked sheepish because
he just said on the Senate floor that the New
York Times was a biased right wing poll. Yeah. And
it was a moment where where like Schumer, you saw
Democrats looking at him going, dude, you look like that's weak.
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And that's because the New York Times did a poll
if the Democrats don't get everything they want, should they
shut the government down? And sixty five percent of Americans
said no, don't shut the government down. It was a
small percentage. It was just over twenty percent of Americans
that said yes, shut the government down. So that's who
the Democrats are responding to. But they've got Schumer's message
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is the New York Times is a right wing mouthpiece,
and how dare you tell the American people that we
the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This is headed
to failure. Everyone knows that, every Republican knows that, every
Democrat knows that is there an outcome where Republicans say, okay, great,
let's fund healthcare free illegals. No, the Democrats will give in.
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Three Democrats voted to fund the government. What will happen
is the government is shut down. People are gonna get
ticked off, people are gonna want to like us. By
the way, things like passport services will be greatly reduced.
All sorts of government. Now listen, the military keeps going,
law enforcement keep going, Social Security keeps going, Medicare keeps going,
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Medicaid keeps going. An awful lot of government keeps going.
But the lack of government being open will be a
serious function. And at some point we will see seven
or eight Democrats say enough is enough, reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That will happen.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
But let me tell you a huge piece that is
an X factor in this, which is Russ Vote, who
is the head of OMB, the Office of Management and
Budget works for the White House. He put out a
memo a week ago that said, if there is a
government shutdown, we are going to lay off federal workers.
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We're not going to give them a furlough.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
on preemptive yep, warning you do this, and here's what
we were going to do. And this might be one
of the best moves I've seen politically in a long
time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
watch what happens, because as a lot of people that are
going to get loser jobs, and that's going to be
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on you guys for allowing it to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Right, So explain all that.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yes, So Russ is a good friend, he's a strong conservative,
he's a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we're
going to react to that. By the White House is
instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a
riff a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink
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slips to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who
are advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what
you are going to see in the next few days,
You're going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired. You're
gonna see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired. You're
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gonna see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And within a
couple of days we're gonna see Democrat senators. They're gonna
be in their lunches screaming at each other because this
is frankly an excuse for the Trump administration to do
what they wanted to do anyway, which is get rid
of left wing bureaucrats. But they now have an incredible justification,
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which is, hey, Congress chose not to fund them, so
instead of giving them a paid vacation, stay home several
weeks and then we'll pay you back pay and come
back to your job. They're gonna even pick slip and
say you're done. You no longer have a job. And
I think that is going to ratchet up the pressure
on Democrats massively.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So how quickly can these firings take place? How massive
could they be today? And how much research has been
done behind the scenes to get rid of a lot
of these woke bureaucrats that we that we've been wanting
to get rid of, that the President's wanting to get
the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of, like
I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil kind
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of like doag did. Let's find the people we want
to get rid of. And this is our chance to
do it. And and by the way, once it's done,
like it's not like he got from their jobs back
like it's done.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
you start seeing pink slips. I think we will see
left wing bureaucrats fired today. I think we'll see them
fired tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
a groom some in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
I said, okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
House directs us to do that, we do that. We're
(26:58):
going to see I think one hundred, if not thousands,
of left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days.
I think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
And by the way, we're not going to fire people
that are critical for the priorities you care you and
I care about. So we're not going to see border
patrol agents who are securing the border fired. We're not
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going to see ICE agents who are deporting gang bangers fired.
We're not going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles.
We're not going to see them fired. We're not going
to see soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines who
are keeping this nation safe, We're not going to see
them fired. We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting
down factories, who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical
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left wing agendas. They're going to be the ones fired,
and ultimately the Democrats are going to cave. The only
question is how long Schumer wants to go through this
charade before he gives in.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Brings me my final question, that is the media does
seem to be covering this a little bit more with
honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today there was
a viral clip that is, the tables have been turned.
Democrats are now literally under fire, uh for a clip
that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the same
ones they're accused of using right now. And here's what
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it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December of
twenty eighteen, Donald Trump was president. Chuck Schimer Nain's Posi
in the Oval office.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Listen, we do not want to shut down the government
because you can't you shut it down. Yeah, let me
say something, mister President North Dakota.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Most unfortunate that we came in here in good faith
and we're entering into this kind of a discussion in
the public.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Transparency.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I know, it's high transparency when we're not stipulating to
a set of facts.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I mean, you listen to that one. They're like, we're
not in favor of it. And then the speaker also
put out a very inter yes video montage reminding people
the same thing, like, Hey, you guys think that it's
the Democrats. Mike Johnson putting this out and here he
is and what he said to remind the people about
Democrats in their own words, it is not.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
what we want. If the government shuts down, it will
be average Americans who suffer most. A government shutdown means
seniors who rely on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Families will be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
It's the service members who will work without a pay chet,
It's the firefighters who will be furlough the shut down.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know who's gonna feel the pain. You know who
it hurts you.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Everyday people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans, work in families,
hungary kids, y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Democratic signal in that they're ready fight this time.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Schuma tells the Associated Press, Well, things have changed. It
is not normal to shut down the government when we
don't get what we want.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean, I love them using AOC's words. I feel
like the media has changed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Here your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
On that, well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
who that was. So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are. And I
got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor,
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so I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
the reporters were circling and they're talking. Point that they
really wanted to press is they said, Okay, Cruz in
twenty thirteen in the over Obamacare, you Ted Cruz forced
(31:03):
to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are doing now?
And I just started laughing at them, and I said, look,
number one, in twenty thirteen, when I did a twenty
one hour filibuster on the floor, I was fighting for Americans.
I was fighting for American citizens whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed.
And they had skyrocketed because Obamacare was a train wreck.
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It was a disaster. It caused a massive increase in
health insurance premiums. It made the health insurance companies rich,
and it made millions of ordinary Americans unable to afford
health insurance. And by the way, I was also fighting
for it at a time when the House of Representatives
that was Republican had voted to fund the federal government,
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fund the entirety of the federal government, but not fund Obamacare,
so not fund the law that was causing damage to
American citizens. And I said, here, what's happening is Chuck
Schumer is shutting down the federal government not to help
American citizens who are getting hurt. But he's shutting down
the federal government in order to help millions of illegal
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aliens and give them free healthcare. And he's willing to
shut down your federal government to give free health care
to illegals, and that fundamentally there's a hypocrisy to it.
And I also said, you know, the reporters were like,
isn't it the same, And I said, listen, let me
be clear. In twenty thirteen, it was Chuck Schumer who
(32:34):
shut the government down. Then I was trying to fund
the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare, and
Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut it
all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
And I told the reporters we had like fifty reporters
standing outside the Senate Florida. I said, look, none of
you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown on me,
(32:55):
because you're all left wing hacks. Today, all of you
are still left wing hacks. You agree with the Democrats.
But the facts are so overwhelming. It is Chuck Schumer
and the Democrats who are shutting the government down that
even you dishonest liars are reporting this is the Schumer
shutdown because the House has funded the government exactly the
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status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow. It
is the Democrats who said let's shut it down, and
I think at the end of the day they're going
to lose that battle. But this is what you got
to ask yourself is how long do the Democrats have
to perform for their crazy left wing activists before they
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allow the government to reopen.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Don't forget share this podcast please with your family and
your friends wherever they are, and I will see you
back here tomorrow.
It is official at twelve oh one am. The governments
shut down. Why because Democrats are holding Americans hostage, refusing
to do what Republicans did seven times during the Biden
administration simply agreed to a continuing resolution until the broader
government plan, the financial plan could be agreed to. But
(00:24):
this time the Democrats said no. Why they want to
hurt Americans and they want to put illegal immigrants first.
We have a lot to talk about when it comes
to what all happened. And now this all comes down
to the Senate because the overall plan has already made
its way out of the House.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So what is next?
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government is shut down right now, and the question is
(02:55):
where do we go from here. I want you to
hear what Senator Cruz had to say, because all this
revolved around what's happening in the Senate. The United States
government is shut down. The Democrats they did it on purpose,
apparently it was their plan. And the question is for
how long have they been planning on doing this? Center
This is going to be a very interesting show. This
(03:16):
all revolves around the Senate. That is something that maybe
some people don't realize. Everything's come out of the House.
We're now to the Senate side of things, and I
want you to explain what it was like in the
hours leading up to the shutdown. Was there ever a
chance in hell that the government wasn't going to shut down?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No, that there was never a chance. It is just
after midnight, so the government is shut down just for
a few minutes. But I think the government shutdown is
going to last at a minimum of days. It may
be weeks, and it may even be longer. Really, yes,
this could extend for a significant period of time. And
(03:57):
understand this is the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump.
So I got to say. We had the vote tonight.
There was no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome. Out of
one hundred senators, all of us knew the outcome. The
vote was fifty five to forty five. So three Democrat
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senators voted to keep the government open.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You have it was a pretty big deal, right, I mean,
did you think those three were going to go?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Where? Did you think it was going to be a
unanimous vote?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I mean Fetterman and two others like that's that is significant.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, look, Fetterman, I was not surprised. So Fetterman voted
to keep the government open, courtes Master voter to keep
the government open, and Angus King voted to keep the
government open. That's not shocking to me. It's fifty five
to forty five. Now, why did the government shut down? Look,
the basic operation of government is the federal government cannot
(04:53):
continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds. Under the Constitution,
Congress has the power of the perse, so Congress appropriates
the spending of money. A typical fiscal year is October
first to September thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
YEP.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
spend money expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
of ways you can extend the government funding.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
One is an.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Appropriation and so they're typically in a good year. They
are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind of
major segment of government. For a number of years, the
appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way that
government authorization occurs is through what are called crs. CR
(05:53):
is short for continual resolution. A continued resolution is essentially
Congress saying what we are spending now, now we can
continue continue the status quo identically for x period of time. Now,
the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR
to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
(06:13):
So if the Senate had passed it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh, let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
When you say a clean CR, that means no political
shenanigans in it. It's literally saying, we're taking the twenty
five budget year and we're going to say the exact
same amount we spent in August, we're gonna spend September, October,
November until we get the new budget. There is no
port barrel extras, there's no political sag against from either side.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yes, yes, yes, okay. A clean CR says what we
spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow, that everything just
continues the same, and that's what the House has passed. Now.
The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
is in the nature of an appropriations or a CR,
it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've
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got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
as I mentioned, we got fifty five, we got three Democrats,
but we need sixty, which means we need at least
seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes
(07:23):
to fund the government. Well we only got three.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And that was on purpose.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And I want to pause just for a second to
go back to the cr historically. Let's just go back
to Biden's time in office when you guys were in
the minority. If I'm not mistaken, you guys did this
more than a dozen times where you came to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Go and say, hey, matained a thirteen time.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
All right, So thirteen different times y'all came together and
said we're gonna spend exactly what we spent yesterday to
keep the government open so we avoid a government shut down.
And you put the America can people ahead of politics,
and that is a bipartisan moment, right, They had to
have some of your votes.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So look, every time we came to the end of
government funding, you would have enough Republicans join with Democrats
to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
several months ago we had another expiration of government funding.
And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, okay,
let's keep the government going a very reasonable and very
(08:27):
common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
base lost their mind and Chuck Schumer nearly lost his
job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded several
months ago. The left wing rose up against him. And
you want to understand why we have a shutdown. It's
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one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and
he sees AOC running up behind him, and he is
terrified he's going to lose his job. So listen, Schumer
knows this is not going to work. He knows this
is failures.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So the radical left wing, they hate Trump and they
want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
entire government down because rar that's what we're watching now.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
By the way, So then hold on, when did this
become the plan?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Was this weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Months ago? Was this when they had the last year?
As I got the next time it comes up, I
have no choice. I got to shut down the government
to flex my muscles. And also there is a real
concern by him that AOC is going to run against him,
primary him in the Senate. By the way, that is
after the next president's election cycle?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And that isn't he up two years after? If I'm
not mistaken, So you got five plus years from now.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So, and to be clear, I have predicted on this
podcast the inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for
President campaign is Chuck Schumer because he is desperate for
AOC not to primary him. Yea, He's gonna say, Alexandra,
you are such a big deal, you were so important. Really,
the Senate's too small for you. Why do you want
(10:18):
to bother being in the Senate? You should be in
the White House. Schumer is going to be all in
on that, but he is living with absolute PTSD. He
is traumatized. He sees left wing antifa crazies coming around
on every side, and so from his end, this shutdown
(10:40):
is necessary politically. Now, what did the Democrats demand? They
demanded a lot of things, you know what the number
one demand was.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
By the way, I mean, when you think about that
and the polling data and what it says, I don't
understand why that would make your nonumber one thing, because
it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
our borders, stopping government waste for aunt of abuse dogs
was a big part of it. And also making sure
that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants. So like, no, no, no, no,
we want to spend one point five trillion if you
(11:14):
want our votes, and it has to be for health
care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work. That's
another thing, and they're like, no, no, no, we buy gal.
You better get mind to people that are just straight
up lazy, that aren't that that have the ability to work,
but you got to pay them to stay home.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah. A huge pump chunk of this is getting rid
of the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want
anyone to have to work. They wanted them to be
able to sit at home and get government checks. But
did you see the AI video the White House put out?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Which one? They put out a couple different things. Which
one are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I want you, I want I want to play this
for everyone. Okay, this is fake, So so all the
nattering nabobs, this is fake news, but it is absolutely hysterical.
The White House put out This is Chuck Schumer and
a Keem Jeffries explaining what this shutdown is all about.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes
Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all
of our woke trans bullsh Not even black people want
to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So we need new voters.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And if we give all these illegal aliens free healthcare,
we might be able to get them on our side
so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English,
so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke
pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while
until they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
See, this is when I love AI. This is when
I absolutely love the spear from the President. And if
you can't see this, you need to go look at it.
We put up on social media, the videos and Jeffries
has got a really nice Hannibar mustache and a sombrero on.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So look, pause for a second and realize that was
released by the White House. That was released by the
President of the United States. I feel a little guilty
because we've got some cursewords in there. We try to
avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do you do
when the president has put that out?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You pay it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And I gotta say the video sits today at lunch.
So every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, all the Republican senators
have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
at the White House. And so Thune was giving us
a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,
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the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
I raised my hand.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I question.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I said, John was a King Jeffries wearing the sombrero.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And what did he say?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He just laughed. But look and and everyone cracked up.
But that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down
the federal government because they want free health care for
every illegal alien in America. Yeah, you want to talk about,
like on every issue that's eighty twenty or even ninety ten,
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they're on the twenty or the ten side. The American
people do not support if you want to have a
referendum in this country, should we give illegals free health care? Wow?
That will be overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But here's the secret.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
This shutdown is not actually about free health care for illegals.
That's what the Democrats have hung their hat on because
they got to say they want.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Some they gotta say something, right.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
This is all about just we hate Donald Trump and
it is Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means
the end of this. Okay, there's no universe in which
Chuck Schumer will get President Trump to agree to let's
give free health care to illegals.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, not going to happen. They know that, Yeah, they're entering.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
There's no universe in which Republicans in Congress are going
to say, hey, that's a great idea, let's give free
health care to every illegal. Like that's you might as
well ask for Area fifty one, like to release the
Martians and let them take over the country. That is
as likely to happen as free health care for illegals
from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is not about
(15:28):
getting what they're demanding. This is about how long do
they want to demonstrate Orange Man bade and so.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Do you actually believe And let's go back to the
history of the Senate here. I don't believe that Chuck
Schumer actually wanted to shut down the government now, No,
I think he was forced to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
job if the government was Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
In other words, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Chuck Schumer is being held hostage by the Marxist communists
and socialists in his party, which they did not police
and they allowed to take over their party. Then he's
now holding the American people hostage with a government shutdown,
which brings me the big question. Even when we've had
shutdowns in the past, there has been some agreement center like, hey,
(16:22):
certain people should deserve to get paid, those that are
in the military, those badges, like the list is not
that long, but the essential important people that deserve to
get a paycheck. We don't screw with them when they're
protecting to fing this country. Can you guys, at least
was there an agreement to pay them?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Really?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, so walk us through that, because I'm assuming that
came up at lunch.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So one of the things I did today is I
sent a letter because under the Constitution, members of Congress,
our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
elected to. So I sent a letter, and I've done
this during every shutdown, saying while the government is shut down,
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don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
lose my pay when the shutdown is over.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I'll get it's just deferred. But it's deferred.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But a lot of people don't understand that the long
which I think just asinine, and I have family members
work in the federal government, and they're like, the dumb
part about this that I think a lot of Americans
don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss a paycheck
in your calendar year. You just miss a month and
(17:43):
then you get it back data, you get it back
the next time whenever the government does open back up.
And so I know people that are in the FA
for example, they're like, dude, we just plan our vacations
like great trips around shutdowns because we know we're still
getting paid. We save not everybody can do that, but
like they've all was pre planned for this bonus vacation
and they're gonna get paid back.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure
number one, government shut down as a misnomer. More than
eighty percent of the government will continue to operate. So
the basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going.
So the military, our activity and military like defending the
(18:25):
nation against bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching criminals,
that keeps going. The border patrol and ice that keeps going.
The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you get on
an airplane, the air traffic controllers all go to work.
By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
(18:45):
a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two
weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers, coast guardsmen, military,
the federal government nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
show down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
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remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut down.
Then remember Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress were fighting
with Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for a
number of weeks, and I remember there was a headline
that said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent of
their employees is essential and seventy percent is not essential.
I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
(19:30):
benchline all those non essential. That's seventy percent they ought
to be done. But what that means, so what will
be shut down? Starting October one? National parks will be
shut down. So I got to say, if you were
planning to take your family to Yosemite this weekend, I'm
sorry to say you're out of luck. Yosemite will be closed.
(19:53):
If you were coming to d C to tour our
nation's capital, you wanted to go to the Smithsonian, go
to the Air and Space Museum, it's the Smithsonian will
be shut down.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
If you look at things like the National Institute of Health,
like research on cancer, much of that will be shut down.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
All across that's non essential. When people are just say
that seems insane. Why wouldn't we fix that to make
sure when we have these shenanigans happen that that's not affected.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And I think this shutdown will extend. I think it'll
be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
to protect his own rear end and everything else is
secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
we will see an extended shutdown.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So is this polling?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I mean, how do you decide when you won or
you lost if you're Schumer, Because this is not about
the country hating Schumer. This is only about New York.
I'm protecting a seat from AOC. So in essence, you
don't care how many people hate you in the country.
It's only a New York thing, is that. I mean, well,
they do polling. I mean this is weird.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah. Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
and I gotta say the Democrats are losing the messaging battle.
It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown. There was
actually exchange right before we had the vote on the
CR to keep the government open, and this is a
clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is just keep
every keep the lights on, status quo. Schumer stood up
(21:24):
and was speaking, and all the senators or most of
us were standing on the Senate floor, and Schumer said, look,
there's been reference to polling. But the polling has been biased.
It's been right wing polling, for example, the New York Times.
And I got to tell you, I and every other
Republican we just started cracking up, laughing, and you could
(21:46):
see Schumer. He actually turned red. He looked sheepish because
he just said on the Senate floor that the New
York Times was a biased right wing poll. Yeah. And
it was a moment where where like Schumer, you saw
Democrats looking at him going, dude, you look like that's weak.
(22:08):
And that's because the New York Times did a poll
if the Democrats don't get everything they want, should they
shut the government down? And sixty five percent of Americans
said no, don't shut the government down. It was a
small percentage. It was just over twenty percent of Americans
that said yes, shut the government down. So that's who
the Democrats are responding to. But they've got Schumer's message
(22:31):
is the New York Times is a right wing mouthpiece,
and how dare you tell the American people that we
the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This is headed
to failure. Everyone knows that, every Republican knows that, every
Democrat knows that is there an outcome where Republicans say, okay, great,
let's fund healthcare free illegals. No, the Democrats will give in.
(22:55):
Three Democrats voted to fund the government. What will happen
is the government is shut down. People are gonna get
ticked off, people are gonna want to like us. By
the way, things like passport services will be greatly reduced.
All sorts of government. Now listen, the military keeps going,
law enforcement keep going, Social Security keeps going, Medicare keeps going,
(23:16):
Medicaid keeps going. An awful lot of government keeps going.
But the lack of government being open will be a
serious function. And at some point we will see seven
or eight Democrats say enough is enough, reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That will happen.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
But let me tell you a huge piece that is
an X factor in this, which is Russ Vote, who
is the head of OMB, the Office of Management and
Budget works for the White House. He put out a
memo a week ago that said, if there is a
government shutdown, we are going to lay off federal workers.
(23:53):
We're not going to give them a furlough.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
on preemptive yep, warning you do this, and here's what
we were going to do. And this might be one
of the best moves I've seen politically in a long
time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
watch what happens, because as a lot of people that are
going to get loser jobs, and that's going to be
(24:18):
on you guys for allowing it to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Right, So explain all that.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yes, So Russ is a good friend, he's a strong conservative,
he's a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we're
going to react to that. By the White House is
instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a
riff a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink
(24:45):
slips to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who
are advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what
you are going to see in the next few days,
You're going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired. You're
gonna see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired. You're
(25:07):
gonna see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And within a
couple of days we're gonna see Democrat senators. They're gonna
be in their lunches screaming at each other because this
is frankly an excuse for the Trump administration to do
what they wanted to do anyway, which is get rid
of left wing bureaucrats. But they now have an incredible justification,
(25:29):
which is, hey, Congress chose not to fund them, so
instead of giving them a paid vacation, stay home several
weeks and then we'll pay you back pay and come
back to your job. They're gonna even pick slip and
say you're done. You no longer have a job. And
I think that is going to ratchet up the pressure
on Democrats massively.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
So how quickly can these firings take place? How massive
could they be today? And how much research has been
done behind the scenes to get rid of a lot
of these woke bureaucrats that we that we've been wanting
to get rid of, that the President's wanting to get
the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of, like
I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil kind
(26:12):
of like doag did. Let's find the people we want
to get rid of. And this is our chance to
do it. And and by the way, once it's done,
like it's not like he got from their jobs back
like it's done.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
you start seeing pink slips. I think we will see
left wing bureaucrats fired today. I think we'll see them
fired tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
a groom some in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
I said, okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
House directs us to do that, we do that. We're
(26:58):
going to see I think one hundred, if not thousands,
of left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days.
I think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
And by the way, we're not going to fire people
that are critical for the priorities you care you and
I care about. So we're not going to see border
patrol agents who are securing the border fired. We're not
(27:20):
going to see ICE agents who are deporting gang bangers fired.
We're not going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles.
We're not going to see them fired. We're not going
to see soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines who
are keeping this nation safe, We're not going to see
them fired. We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting
down factories, who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical
(27:45):
left wing agendas. They're going to be the ones fired,
and ultimately the Democrats are going to cave. The only
question is how long Schumer wants to go through this
charade before he gives in.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Brings me my final question, that is the media does
seem to be covering this a little bit more with
honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today there was
a viral clip that is, the tables have been turned.
Democrats are now literally under fire, uh for a clip
that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the same
ones they're accused of using right now. And here's what
(28:21):
it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December of
twenty eighteen, Donald Trump was president. Chuck Schimer Nain's Posi
in the Oval office.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Listen, we do not want to shut down the government
because you can't you shut it down. Yeah, let me
say something, mister President North Dakota.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Most unfortunate that we came in here in good faith
and we're entering into this kind of a discussion in
the public.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Transparency.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I know, it's high transparency when we're not stipulating to
a set of facts.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I mean, you listen to that one. They're like, we're
not in favor of it. And then the speaker also
put out a very inter yes video montage reminding people
the same thing, like, Hey, you guys think that it's
the Democrats. Mike Johnson putting this out and here he
is and what he said to remind the people about
Democrats in their own words, it is not.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
what we want. If the government shuts down, it will
be average Americans who suffer most. A government shutdown means
seniors who rely on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Families will be hurt, Farmers will be hurt.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
It's the service members who will work without a pay chet,
It's the firefighters who will be furlough the shut down.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know who's gonna feel the pain. You know who
it hurts you.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Everyday people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans, work in families,
hungary kids, y'all.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Democratic signal in that they're ready fight this time.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Schuma tells the Associated Press, Well, things have changed. It
is not normal to shut down the government when we
don't get what we want.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean, I love them using AOC's words. I feel
like the media has changed a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Here your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
On that, well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
who that was. So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are. And I
got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor,
(30:42):
so I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
the reporters were circling and they're talking. Point that they
really wanted to press is they said, Okay, Cruz in
twenty thirteen in the over Obamacare, you Ted Cruz forced
(31:03):
to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are doing now?
And I just started laughing at them, and I said, look,
number one, in twenty thirteen, when I did a twenty
one hour filibuster on the floor, I was fighting for Americans.
I was fighting for American citizens whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed.
And they had skyrocketed because Obamacare was a train wreck.
(31:26):
It was a disaster. It caused a massive increase in
health insurance premiums. It made the health insurance companies rich,
and it made millions of ordinary Americans unable to afford
health insurance. And by the way, I was also fighting
for it at a time when the House of Representatives
that was Republican had voted to fund the federal government,
(31:49):
fund the entirety of the federal government, but not fund Obamacare,
so not fund the law that was causing damage to
American citizens. And I said, here, what's happening is Chuck
Schumer is shutting down the federal government not to help
American citizens who are getting hurt. But he's shutting down
the federal government in order to help millions of illegal
(32:11):
aliens and give them free healthcare. And he's willing to
shut down your federal government to give free health care
to illegals, and that fundamentally there's a hypocrisy to it.
And I also said, you know, the reporters were like,
isn't it the same, And I said, listen, let me
be clear. In twenty thirteen, it was Chuck Schumer who
(32:34):
shut the government down. Then I was trying to fund
the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare, and
Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut it
all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
And I told the reporters we had like fifty reporters
standing outside the Senate Florida. I said, look, none of
you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown on me,
(32:55):
because you're all left wing hacks. Today, all of you
are still left wing hacks. You agree with the Democrats.
But the facts are so overwhelming. It is Chuck Schumer
and the Democrats who are shutting the government down that
even you dishonest liars are reporting this is the Schumer
shutdown because the House has funded the government exactly the
(33:19):
status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow. It
is the Democrats who said let's shut it down, and
I think at the end of the day they're going
to lose that battle. But this is what you got
to ask yourself is how long do the Democrats have
to perform for their crazy left wing activists before they
(33:40):
allow the government to reopen.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
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