May 19, 2025 • 45 mins
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Joe Biden’s Cognitive Decline:
- The hosts argue that President Biden exhibited signs of significant mental decline even before taking office in 2021.
- They cite excerpts from Jake Tapper’s upcoming book and The Atlantic article, which describe Biden’s struggles with memory, attention, and communication during the 2020 campaign and presidency.
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The Hur Tapes:
- The podcast discusses the release of audio recordings from Special Counsel Robert Hur’s investigation into Biden’s handling of classified documents.
- The hosts play and analyze segments from the tapes, suggesting they reveal Biden’s inability to recall key facts and events, reinforcing claims of cognitive decline.
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Prostate Cancer Diagnosis:
- A breaking news update is shared during the episode: President Biden has been diagnosed with prostate cancer, with metastasis to the bone. The hosts express sympathy but maintain that this does not excuse alleged deception by the administration.
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Media and Political Accountability:
- The hosts criticize mainstream media and Democratic officials for allegedly covering up Biden’s condition.
- They argue that many knowingly misled the public and call for investigations into who was actually running the country during Biden’s presidency.
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Calls for Transparency and Investigation:
- The episode ends with a call for congressional hearings to uncover who was making decisions in the White House and to prevent similar situations in the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in is verdicuous Enter Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you and Center. Nice to be back with you in
person here in studio, and it is very interesting to
see what's happening right now with the Joe Biden story
and the hur tapes coming out. The media that said
that he was totally fine are now making money off
writing books telling us apparently the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, every single day now we're getting more and more
information about just how bad it was. Look, you and
I knew that Joe Biden had experienced very significant mental decline,
but as bad as we thought it was, it was
even worse. We're now finding out that he had a
serious mental decline before he was even sworn in as president,
that it was present the entire time he was in
(00:43):
the White House, that it got worse and worse, And
you mentioned the her tapes. You and I on this
podcast called for those hurtapes to be released publicly, and
the Biden Justice Department, the Democrats stonewalled, and the media
had zero interest in what was in those hur tapes.
They didn't want to hear them at all. They were
not interested in anything that would contradict their narrative. The
(01:03):
contrast between the facts and what Democrats and the corporate
media said is night and day. It is a stunning
indictment of how much of official Washington conspired to lie
to the American people and fundamentally to try to steal
an election. We're going to break down all of the details.
(01:26):
We're going to walk through what's in the her tapes
and just how everyone involved, from the Vice President to
the cabinet, to the members of Congress, to the media,
they all knew and they were all deliberately lying. Now,
let me say this as you and I sit here.
It is three seventeen PM on Sunday. Just ten minutes
(01:46):
ago a story broke. We don't know the full details,
but President Biden's office put out a statement that says
last week President Joe Biden was seen for a new
finding of a prostate none after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms.
On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer characterized by
(02:09):
a Gleason's score of nine grade group five with metastasis
to the bone. While this represents a more aggressive form
of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive,
which allows for effective management. The President and his family
are reviewing treatment options with his physicians. Now this broke
(02:31):
literally minutes ago. We don't know anything else other than
that statement, but I will certainly say our prayers are
with former President Biden and his family. A diagnosis of
cancer is always a frightening thing. As you know, my
mother is a two time cancer survivor. It is a
horrible thing to go through. So we pray that his
treatment goes well.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
At the same time, President Biden's illness does not erase
the deliberate lying by common Mala Harris, by the White
House staff, and by the entire corporate media architecture, plus
the cabinet, plus the cabinet plus the Congress. This was
(03:12):
a deliberate deception. And by the way, one of the
victims I think of this deceptions was Joe Biden, because
as his decline accelerated, the phrase elder abuse has been
used to put him in a position where where there
was very little credible argument he could do the job.
I think that was cruel. And all right, here's one
(03:33):
of the one of the one of the pieces of
facts that it has broken, and I'm going to read
read to you from There's there's a big article in
the Atlantic. Uh that that that breaks down Uh Jake
Tapper's new book on on Biden's decline and and and
by the way, The Atlantic is a very left wing publication.
It's astonishing. I'm gonna read several portions from this article
(03:54):
because it's astonishing what they report. Three years later, on
the presidential campaign trail, Biden's struggles became more obvious to
those around him. Tapper and Thompson report that in twenty twenty,
so before he becomes president, members of Biden's inner circle
gave the candidate a teleprompter with scripted questions for a
(04:16):
local news interview. It was an apparent effort to work
around his dwindling communicative and cognitive abilities. Aids lamented that
even then, quote, they couldn't rely on him to stay
on message, and he often had a very short attention span.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Let's go to the year here. I want to timestamp
this so people understand twenty twenty. This isn't the beginning
of his presidency.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, no, he was elected president in twenty twenty.
This is before he was president. He's still a candidate.
You sound like Joe Biden the Robert hurtape. You can't
remember he was elected in twenty twenty. He was sworn
in in January of twenty twenty one, so he is
a candidate for president. And I got to tell you, look,
I have been in the Senate for thirteen years. I've
(05:03):
done at this point, probably thousands of interviews. I have
no idea how many interviews I've had. I've never once
had the questions on a teleprompter. I've never once had
answers on a teleprompter. I've read from a teleprompter. If
I'm like recording a speech or something, a teleprompter can
be helpful, you know, if you're recording a TV commercial,
you'll have a script up on a teleprompter. But the
(05:23):
idea of an interview is you're supposed to be answering
questions and not prescripted. You're not reading something somebody else
wrote for you. And I got to say, I want
you to listen to an interview Brett Bair did where
he asked the Biden campaign about this, and it is remarkable.
The Biden campaign is dodging their evasive They don't want
(05:46):
to answer the question, and nobody else in the media
cared even ask the question.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
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This is from Brettberer show on Fox News Channel. Take
a look.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Has Joe Biden ever used a teleprompter during local interviews
or to answer Q and A with supporters?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Brett, We're not gonna get this. This is straight from
the Trump campaign. Yeah, they're using and what it does
and what it does, Brett is it's trying to distract
the American people.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I'm using it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
They talk about it every day. Can you say yes
or no?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
That's because they talk about it every day, Brett, because
they don't have a coherence. Well you have to answer yes, sure, no, Brett.
They talk about it every day because they don't have
a coherent argument for why Donald Trump deserves reelection, deserves
four more years. We know that he lied to the
American people, We know that he has not shown leadership
during this crisis, and they are desperate to throw anything
they can against the wall to try to distract from
(08:28):
that fact.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I understand, but you can't answer the question, Brett.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I am not going to allow Trump campaign to funnel
their questions through Fox News and get me to respond
to that.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I don't think any of us shows how telling. That
interview was a he said twenty twenty at the bottom
of the screen. It was the election right of twenty twenty.
The cover up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, as you mentioned, MOMO,
started before he even became president.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And I'm not aware of anyone else in the media
other than Brettbair that asked that question. There may have
been some but I don't know of anyone else, certainly CNNA,
I don't recall Sann reporting you know it is, and in.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Fact, if you even brought it up, they were angry
at you, right.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And it's worth look underscoring how unusual you've been in
journalism and in politics a long time. Have you ever
encountered any other candidate for any other office that has
scripted questions and answers from local reporters?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And in fact, the higher that office gets, the bigger
of the office, though less likely it would be for
that to be acceptable, Like even if it was running
for dog catcher, this wouldn't be normal. But the fact
that you're talking about the presidency of United States America.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Even the only other instance I can think of that
was like this is is there was an instance with
CNN on the Mitt Romney Barack Obama debate with Candy Crowley,
where what was it? I guess Donna Brazil was accused
of giving Obama the questions ahead of time and it
was a big scandal. Yeah, I mean that, that's how
(09:56):
bizarre and out of the mainstream. And let me read
you another story from the same article in the end
from the book The book's most astounding, previously unreported story
from Biden's twenty twenty campaign concerns his staff's attempt to
create videos of the candidates speaking with voters over Zoom.
Tapper and Thompson's description of this is worth quoting at length.
(10:19):
Biden would sit in a room with several monitors beaming
the faces of real Americans in front of him so
that he could discuss issues of importance. Remember this is
during COVID. The videos came back hours of footage. Some
on the team couldn't believe their eyes. Quote the videos
were horrible. One top Democrat said he couldn't follow the
(10:42):
conversation at all. Quote. I couldn't believe it, said a
second Democrat, who hadn't seen Biden in years. It was
like a different person. It was incredible. It was like
watching Grandpa who shouldn't be driving. A special team was
brought in and told to edit the videos down to
(11:03):
make them arable, if only a few minutes worth. They
had to get creative, the authors go on to write, quote,
edited the videos likely appeared find viewers. Biden no worse
than any other senior on zoom, but two of the
Democrats who were involved in the film's production together were dumbfounded. Quote,
(11:24):
I didn't think he could be president. The second Democrats said,
after what they'd seen, they couldn't understand how Biden could
be capable of doing the job. That was in twenty twenty. Yeah,
that was before he was president, and that mental decline.
By the way, all the reporters who were saying there's
(11:48):
nothing to see here, their sole hope, the glimmer that
they're holding on to is Biden was fine in twenty twenty,
twenty one, twenty two, and it's just at the very
end in twenty four he had a decline. So we
didn't realize that's their sole basis because they're two and
only two options. One Biden had declined badly the entire time,
(12:12):
and the entire media lied and covered it up. Or
two it was precipitous at the end, now on the
line and covering it up. On Friday's pod, we played
a montage of all of the corporate media hacks just
covering for Biden's decline year after year after year. We've
got another montage that we're going to play right now.
This one's a video montage. So this is one of
(12:33):
the episodes that we do on YouTube on video as well,
so you can watch it, and it shows how they
were walking the walk and talking the talk. They were
reading their talking points, and their talking points is Joe
Biden is Albert Einstein combined with like absolute precision. He's amazing.
(12:54):
He's no mental decline at all. They stuck to their
talking points.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Take a look, start your take right now, because I'm
about to tell you the truth and f you if
you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
You know, he knows so long as in fact, I
think he's better than he's ever been President.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Biden has a photographic memory. His understanding and mastery of.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
A complicated geopolitical situation remarkable.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Jackie you here, where's Jackie? I think she was going
to be here.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I was sitting, you know, a two feet from him
across the table, and he was, you know, intense.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It's got trouble walking sometimes, yeah, so did FBR.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
He wanted gd war.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But he's totally focused.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
He's very sharp. They say he's sharpened meetings and so on.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Very lucid, well, very well infor him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Biden is stately and he comes with gravitas.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single
claim that Biden made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Agism is an issue. Americans have a rich history of
holding people's physical characteristics against them.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Okay, you can ask African.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
Americans he's older, that doesn't mean that he is unfit.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
And there's a lot of agism there.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Now, this age attack, this obsession by the right, Joe
Biden may not be able to speak for himself the
way that he used to.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
They want to take on government if we get out
of line, which they're talking on again about and him
lying around.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
I think people should be speaking up for Joe Biden.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
Americans and reporters in the media are just judging him
by a physical appearance, and it's form of the unfair
age is an accent.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He showed exactly how with it he is.
Speaker 9 (14:43):
The flip side of this coin is that he has
a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met
with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
No more wild speculation from a bunch of people who
have probably never been the room with Joe Biden and
certainly don't have medical degrees that I'm aware of.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
If you don't get paid for performance to be president,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
The job is not a job of endurance. I don't
see Donald Trump out by riding like Joe Biden.
Speaker 10 (15:12):
It's the Hillary's email.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
All they have is that he's on he can clear
a dementia bar and that's probably a win.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The media are not fair, and they're getting less and
less fair, and things are frightening.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
You have.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Wall Street Journal running a horribly sourced piece saying that
Biden is unfaired ubi as Wall Street Journal report about
the president's acuity.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as
you said, But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting,
They didn't follow up, they didn't do any work here.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
The to day is hersh Goldberg Poland is still he
is not here is but he's still being held by
a mind.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
But a huge part of the Mulla report talks about
Russian disinformation tactics, and one of the things this election's
like is that Joe Biden is too old to lead,
and so everyone is seizing upon this, and it is
a classic disinformation tactic. And I think the best thing
that we can do is to prepare the American people
for this false narrative.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
What do you say to that. I mean, that's just
they're insisting there's no mental decline. In fact, he's phenomenal.
So we heard twenty twenty he had to have a
teleprompter to be interviewed by a local reporter. He couldn't
do a zoom with real people because it was incoherent
and seemed like your grandfather who you wouldn't want driving.
(16:36):
Here's twenty twenty two, and this is again from the
Atlantic article. In twenty twenty two, According to one witness,
Biden found himself unable to remember the name of his
own national security advisor, Jake Sullivan Steve he called him
at least twice, or his communications director Kate betty Field,
(17:01):
whom he once resorted to calling press. Now, that is
not normal.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And people need to understand you're around those two individuals
on like virtually a daily basis, sometimes multiple times a day.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And listen, Bob, it is weird not to know the
name of someone you deal with daily.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
John, I couldn't agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
More like, what okay? To not know your own national
security advisor is not okay. That's a problem. And so
you and I have asked multiple times on this podcast
a question I've been asked literally thousands of times by Texans.
Who's running the country. What's interesting. There's a segment in
this Atlantic article where they address that, and here's what
(17:43):
they say. As some high ranking Democrats quoted anonymously in
the book put it to Tapper and Thompson after Biden's
disastrous debate last June, quote, just who the hell is
running the country? At least one unnamed source close to
the administration was willing to provide the authors with an answer. Quote,
(18:05):
five people were running the country, this insider said, seemingly
referring to the president's closest advisors. And Joe Biden was
at best a senior member of the board at best.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So he's number six and there's five ahead of him
that were right in the country.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Now, I want you to listen to this exchange. This
is I actually think the most stunning part of the
book so far. And by the way, let me know
you and I haven't read the book. The book hasn't
come out. You and I both know Jake Tapper very well.
Jake Tapper was upset at Friday's podcast and he disputed
(18:46):
our characterization. He said he was not he was not
defending Biden, he was not lying to the American people.
And you know what, Jake texted me and said, Hey,
I want to come on the pod. I want to
set the record straight. And I told him you were
welcome to come on the pod. So if Jake wants
to come on the pod, he is welcome. He has
an open invitation, and we're trying to set it up
(19:06):
and our team is talking to his team and trying
to schedule it. Look unlike a lot of places when
I go on interviews, particularly with the left wing media,
they sandbag you, they attack you that they are wildly unfair. Look,
if Jake comes on, he'll get a fair opportunity. He
claims some of the quotes were taken out of context,
He'll get every opportunity to give all of the context. Now,
(19:28):
he should not expect softballs. Sure, he actually has to
address his real record. But if he wants to come on,
there are a million listeners to a verdict who would
be happy to hear him claim that he was not
part of what the rest of the media was doing,
which was lying for four straight years about Biden's mental decline.
I hope that could happen. I would welcome Jake for
(19:51):
as he put it, in an adult conversation. I think
that would be something, Amen, you don't find a lot
of times when you turn on the television set. Let's
read this segment from the book, and I have to
rely on The Atlantic because that's all we have is
the excerpts that are out. Here's what it says. Quote.
Near the end of their book, Tapper and Thompson offer
a glimpse into how powerful Democrats responded to the grim
(20:14):
spectacle of Biden's early summer face off with Trump. The
authors describe a scene at the homes home of James Costos,
an ambassador to Spain under Obama, where celebrities and politicians
gathered to watch the debate. As a doddering Biden tanked
on stage in front of fifty million Americans. The film
(20:34):
director and Democratic donor Rob Reiner became scared, then furious.
I do kind of like meatheads. Scared and furious. That
makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Quote We're gonna lose our efing democracy because of you.
It doesn't say e fing, I abbreviated it, he screamed,
seeming to direct his ire at the closest thing to
a Biden official in the room, second gentleman Doug Mhoff.
What Reiner apparently failed to consider, but what original sin
(21:05):
prompts readers to ask, is whether American democracy was already
meaningfully diminished. This is really important. Listen to what the
Atlantic writer says describing how some in the Biden world
justified propping him up for reelection in twenty twenty four,
A longtime aide told Tapper and Thompson he just had
(21:27):
to win and then he could disappear for four years.
He'd only have to show proof of life every once
in a while. In other words, before Biden stepped down
from the race, the plan for some AIDS seemed to
be a weekend at Bernie's, a cognitively impaired president, in
(21:50):
the hopes that, upon winning a second term, he could
be hidden from the public while unelected staff took care
of the real business of governing. Quote, when you vote
for somebody, you are voting for the people around them.
To the AID offered as a way of justifying what was,
by any reasonable metric, an effort to undermine democracy and
(22:15):
defraud the American people.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So to be clear what Democrats were doing in and
around Joe Biden is number one. He wasn't round the
country and best he was six on the on the
pecking order list. If they if we believe the five
who are above either and.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We don't know the five, yeah, people get to know
the five? Is that?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I would love to know and that and that brings up.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A question, and are there any reporters at ABCNBCCBS, CNN
asking that question? Do they who are the five? One?
Look like when you list the presidents in the history book?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you list the five?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Is forty six going to have an asterisk and be
the actual president or the following five people? Or or
does does nobody care?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Which which brings you the question that I think everybody
listening right now are watching, is thinking there has to
be some sort of investigation in theory I figure this
out so it never happens again. I don't care if
it's a Republican or Democrat. If you're incapacitated as a Republican,
you shouldn't have a country run by a pyramid of
(23:15):
five random people that no one elected, that hell you
can't even name, are not being named.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I agree with you and the standard. I want to
quote again from the left wing Atlantic, the quote this
was quote by any reasonable metric, an effort to undermine
democracy and defraud the American people. Every Democrat who lied
(23:43):
to the American people ought to be asked about their
effort to undermine democracy and defraud the American people. Now,
one of the things they did is they kept hidden
the her tapes.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And let's remind people quickly the her tapes twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Robert Hurr was a special counsel appointed and it was
an inconvenient fact. So the Biden Justice Department desperately wanted
to stop Donald Trump from getting reelected. They wanted to
stop the voters for voting for him, so they indicted him.
They indicted him multiple times. One of the things they
indicted him for was allegedly and properly storing classified documents
at mar Lago. And then they had the incredibly inconvenient
(24:24):
fact that Joe Biden had committed the exact same thing,
not once, but over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And he was caught red handed, and maybe I've had
documents that said back to when he was like in
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
When he was in the Senate classified documents, which is
bizarre you and I talked about in the Senate. I
can tell you with an absolute fact, there are zero
classified documents in my house. There are zero classified documents
by my antique corvette, because I don't have an antique corvette.
And I can tell you there aren't classified documents anywhere else.
(24:55):
Why because I've only read classified documents one place, which
is in a skiff. The skiff is a secure compartmental
location in the basement of the Capitol. I've read a
lot of classified documents, but I go down to the skiff,
I read them there, and I leave them there so
I don't stick them in my socks or underwear, which
by the way, Bill Clinton's national security advisor Sandy Berger did,
(25:16):
I don't smuggle them out. So I don't know how
Joe Biden as a senator had classified documents at his
beach house because I never took him to I've never
once taken them out of the skiff. But I want
you to listen. So Robert Hurr was a prosecutor. He
was assigned to investigate Joe Biden. He concluded, by the way,
Joe Biden violated the exact same law that they were
(25:37):
prosecuting Donald Trump for allegedly violating. And then DOJ refused
to prosecute Biden because they said he was incompetent to
be tried. Yes, and Robert her had some descriptions about
how Biden you couldn't get convict him in front of
a jury because he was an old man with a
poor memory, and no jury would convict him. And the
(26:00):
entire Democrat machine roared back at him, the media, all
the people who are covering up Biden. They tried to
demonize Robert Horror as the bad guy. Robert Herr is
the bad guy. And by the way, you and I
on this show called for release the tapes people here
and the DOJ said no, that they asserted executive immunity,
(26:25):
which was incoherent, It made no sense legally. What they
were really asserting is this is politically embarrassing and people
will realize that we're covering up a mentally incompetent president
if they're released. Well, they've been released. Now. I want
you to listen. I want you to listen to one
segment here that this is the DOJ prosecutor interviewing Joe Biden.
(26:46):
This is in twenty twenty three. Give a listen during
Shambers road and work door to.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
The bio shot. Uh wear book.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Where did you keep papers that related to those things
that you were actively working?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, I I I I I I don't know. This
is what twenty seventeen eighteen, that period is. Remember in
this time frame, my son is uh either been deployed
(27:34):
or is dying.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
And uh. And so it was uh.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And by the way, there were still a lot of
people at the time when I got out of this
and that were encouraging me to run in this period. Uh,
except the president.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Uh. I'm not being there. Not a mean thing to say. Man.
You just thought that she had a better shot of
winning the president than I did. And so I hadn't.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I hadn't at this point, even on a band, I
hadn't walked away from the idea that I might run
for office again.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Uh if our rand again and been running for president
and uh. And so what was happening though when.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Went to bom Dying, U got a mazed thirty years
U twenty eighteen when the twenty fifteen and died was
made twenty fifteen, think it's twenty fifteen or eat that.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Much of the months or when he goes here. That's right,
that's the president, that's it. And uh what's happened in
the meantime is that uh.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
As and.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Shrump gets elected in November of twenty seventeen, twenty sixty sixteen,
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Alright, so hight after twenty seventeen, that's when you left
office in January of time, I said, oh okay, but
that's when Trump had sworn in at the White end,
would right? Quite? Ok?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Athlete and uh in twenty seventeen both had passed and uh, man,
it's this person the genesis of the book, and the
(29:48):
title promised me.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Dad was a uh. I know, they're all closer to
your sons and daughters, but.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Bo was.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Like my right arm, and that was my left. These
guys were a year and a day apart, and they
could finish each other's sentences, and bo I used to
go home on the train and the period that I
(30:29):
was still the sentence.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
An they ran.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Do you remember there was pressure, not pressure. Bo knew
how much I'd do with them. And uh, and then
it sounds maybe it sounds so.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Everybody knew how closely were Remember, there's not anybody lender,
whether or not.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Anyway, and sat break.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, let me just keep going to get in tone
the last part there. I actually feel bad for Joe Biden.
I think it's very clear that people were taking advantage
of him. I think this is a form of elder abuse.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, that was sad.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It is It's just it is absolutely sad. That is
the president United States of America and the fact that
there were somebody you were wanting to keep their power,
whoever those five people were, that they did this to him.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Look and and he do you remember remember the question
that was in the front of that What was it?
It was where you're keeping classified documents? And he went
down a four minute recollection of losing his son tragically.
And there's nothing sadder than a parent burying a child.
And then that's certainly a personal tragedy that Joe Biden
(31:55):
has had more than his fair share of. But he
was not able to even answer the question. Well, all right,
here's another segment of her tapes. Let listen. Listen to
this next excerpts.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
A memo, mister president, Was this something that you consciously
kept after your term as vice president?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Is this something that you wanted to hold out to
I don't recall did I have this? Is this in
my possession to spend up?
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Yes, to give me some context for this, mister president.
He was found in front of this notebook that's on
the first page, and the notebook was found in the.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Library at the Lake House.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
In one of the apernswers, I don't recall how I
came back. I mean, I don't recall how I got
back in the book because I sent it to the
President and gave it to the president. And this looks
like the original. I don't think there's any Maybe it's
a copy made of I don't think sto.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
It was just oh okay, that's why.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, alright, no, I got I wasn't sure how I
got how I whether I gay handed the president. It
was back to the President, which I had to copy, right, Okay,
I had the reason and I just put it in
the book and that was it.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Did were you aware that you had kept it after
your returns vice president?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Did you know that you had it? I?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I I I don't know that I knew would wouldn't
It wouldn't some something I would washed time to think about.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
The reason I asked is it's been written about about
the Woodward wrote about it.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
In one of his books, Jewels would.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Cover, wrote about it and his Bay out of You.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
So that's that's the reason I asked if it was
something that he wanted to hang on to you because
he was gonna be such a reporting or his show reported.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
But I I wanted to hang I guess I wanted
to hang on it. Just proposterity sting. I mean, this
one is my position on Afghanistan. I I've been to
view from a historical standpoint that there are certain points
in history, world history where fundamental things change, usually technology.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
For example, without Gutenberg's.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Printing press, Europe gonna be a very different place, literally
a different place, because countries would not have known what
was happening in another country of the parts of the country.
You know, Uh, think about a stupid idea, an notion.
Nixon probably been unpresident where he used to television where
he sweatings I'm I'm used in saily.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
His sweating is so profusely in that debate.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
A lot of people thought he won the debate, but
he lost the debate because of his demeanor. The So
there's a lot of things that I think are fundamentally
changing how international society's function.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
And there remained a lot to technology and one of
the things that.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
I was in the view that.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
A lot has changed in terms of everything from.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
The Internet to the way which we communicate with one
another to that has fundamentally older. I've had this discussion
with the press, Fred, and I mean, that's that's what
I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I have nothing to do with that. Fans and Mark,
just really quickly, I promise will be brief.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I just really would like to avoid, for the purpose
of the clean record, getting into specuative areas. When the
President responded and said, I don't recall intending to keep
this memo, you then said, well, you know, might you
have thought it was important to keep whatever, And he said, well,
I guess I could have his recollection. As I understand
it is he does not recall specifically intending to keep
(35:59):
this memo app let.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
The vice presidency.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I don't want that to be I want these questions
to be as clearly answered and recorded on the transfer
as possible.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
I think we should take a gratis.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
If there's one thing, it's consistent. They wanted to take
a break, and you had the questions coming in in
such a kind way like this is not what I
was expecting.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So let me say legally that exchange is very important.
So this is a classified document on Afghanistan. I don't
actually know the precise details of the document, but it's
a classified document in Afghanistan that he had in a
non secure location, which is a criminal violation. Is the
violation they were charging. Right then, the Biden Justice Department
(36:40):
was prosecuting Donald Trump for doing exactly that, and the
prosecutor asked him, so did you intend to keep this document?
And he's like, I don't know. I don't And immediately
his lawyer jumps in. Your answer is you don't know?
Now as lawyer's been a good lawyer there. Yeah, because
this is all about establishing the men's raya the mental
(37:01):
status to be guilty of the crime. But then Biden
goes on and says, you know, well, why did you
keep it. It's been reported, it's been in this book,
it's that book. And he says, well, I kept it
for posterity. It was important to have and his lawyer
comes in at the end. He's like, oh crap, oh crap.
You just admitted that you did it on purpose, and
you kept it because you wanted to be able to
(37:22):
tell a really good story about Joe Biden, and you
wanted to lead classified information to reporters, and you needed
the memo to do it. And he admits that, and
then his reporter at the end is lawyer at the
end tries to clean that up. That exchange has enormous
legal significance. Had doj not concluded that the sitting president
(37:43):
of the United States was incompetent to stand trial, let
me repeat that sentence, because it's an astonishing one. Had
doj not concluded that the sitting president is incompetent to
stand trial, that exchange would have featured prominently in the
criminal trial convicting him of violating that law.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You look at now what we're seeing with this Herd tape,
and I go back to accountability. There are clearly people
that were helping cover this up. They were taking advantage
of Joe Biden. I think his family obviously was in
on this as well. They wanted the power. Whoever the
five people are the question I ask you, is how
the hell do we find out who the five people are?
(38:26):
And what is Congress's role playing this to make sure
it never happens again.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
There should absolutely be congressional hearings. We need an answer.
The media ought to do its job and report. I
want to play one more excerpt from the her tapes.
Listen to this final excerpt.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
I went to Mongolia and great Pictures.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I unfortunately embarrassed the leader of Mongolia. And they were
doing what they would do at the time of the animation.
Moncles into Europe and four chess the eight hundreds and
and so.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Around the middle of nowhere, and they're looking up in
the aile and see this tiny line.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Now it was a twenty mile horse race with all
these kids under the age of sixteen hour bare back
rationing to come down.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
And you know they're sumer wrestler, so doing everything they do.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
And uh so they walked over and they had uh target,
big bales of hey a hundred yards away, and these
gorillas were, you know, taking shots, and uh, I think,
I don't know, it's an embarrassed marriage.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
I make a point, but the handed the bow and arrow.
I'm not a bad orcherd. But uh all I found
that word, I could pull it back. So I h
and pure the luck. I hate the guy na target.
Oh I really did.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Bales of hayes are really twenty bales of hay with
a with a big target in the.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
Middle of a bail day. And so I didn't meet
any but I turned to a primary handed to him
before some bitch couldn't pull back stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
So look, if Genghis Khan, if Genghis Khan comes comes in,
if we face the Mongol Horde, know that that Joe
Biden is ready to fire his bow and arrow. Look,
there are a lot of things you can say about
this interview, but it's very clear why Democrats did not
(40:25):
want this release before the election, because anyone listening would
would make up their own mind. And I want to
contrast what you've heard, what you've heard with your own ears,
to what Kamala Harris said right after this report came out,
Because Kamala Harris, you asked about the five people. I
doubt Kamala was one of the five. Actually I think
it was. It was Barack Obama and four henchmen. But
(40:49):
Kamala was willing to like wield a knife and attack
the prosecutor that the Biden dj had appointed for telling
the truth that that Biden's medical opacity was just severely deteriorated.
Rather than fess up, rather than be truthful to the
American people, she was happy to lie. Give a listen.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
And what I saw of that report last night, I
believe is as a former prosecutor, the comments that were
made by that prosecutor gratuitous, inaccurate, and inappropriate. October seventh,
(41:35):
Israel experienced a horrific attack, and I will tell you
we got the calls the President and myself in the
hours after that occurred. It was an intense moment for
the commander in chief of the United States of America.
(41:55):
And I was in almost every meeting with the President
in the hours and days that followed, countless hours with
the Pier of Defense, the Secretary of State, the heads
of our intelligence community, and the President was in front
(42:17):
of and on top of it all, asking questions and
requiring that America's military and intelligence community and diplomatic community
would figure out to know how many people were dead,
how many are Americans? How many hostages? Is the situation stable?
(42:39):
He was in front of it all, coordinating and directing
leaders who are in charge of America's national security not
to mention our allies around the globe for days and
up until now months. So the way that the president's
(43:03):
demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more
wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous. And
so I will say that when it comes to the
role and responsibility of a prosecutor in a situation like that,
(43:26):
we should expect that there would be a higher level
of integrity than what we saw.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
So in front of and on top of it all,
So what you just saw was Kamala Harris lying to
the American people, doing so knowingly the guy we heard
on the tape she interacts every time. I actually want
to play one more clip. I want to play Alejandro
mayork as the Secretary of Homeland Security. This is on
National Television, describing his experiences with Joe Biden.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden
is preparing for it because he is sharp, intensely probing,
and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Okay, if he said that in court, he would be
prosecuted for perjury. He's lying. And by the way, may
Orcus is a liar. He's a lawyer. He knows he's lying,
and he doesn't care. Kamala Harris is also a lawyer.
She's also a liar. She knows she's lying. She doesn't care.
Everyone in the media, who over and over and over
(44:30):
again lied. This was as you and I had described.
We've invoke the analogy weekend at Bernie's, which is actually
ironically what Jake Tapper Alex Thompson invoke. Weekend at Bernie's,
for those of y'all who don't remember, is a movie
thirty years ago about a guy who dies and they
spend the whole weekend at his place anyway, and they
just kind of they just keep the corpse there to
(44:52):
be with them. That's what they effectively wanted to do.
They wanted to prop up a president who they knew
was meant incompetent and hide them away. They apparently a
group of.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
People who decide they don't want to be president, and
they didn't have to run for office.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Either, And there is a contempt for democracy and a
contempt for the voters. Every single elected Democrat ought to
be asked repeatedly, why did you lie to the American people?
And every reporter who was complicit in it ought to
be asked repeatedly, why did you lie to the American people.
(45:29):
They should not be able to sweep this under the
rug because it was for five years, it was deliberate,
it was consistent, and it was without regard to the
consequences for this country.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
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Wednesday morning.
Welcome in is verdicuous Enter Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you and Center. Nice to be back with you in
person here in studio, and it is very interesting to
see what's happening right now with the Joe Biden story
and the hur tapes coming out. The media that said
that he was totally fine are now making money off
writing books telling us apparently the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, every single day now we're getting more and more
information about just how bad it was. Look, you and
I knew that Joe Biden had experienced very significant mental decline,
but as bad as we thought it was, it was
even worse. We're now finding out that he had a
serious mental decline before he was even sworn in as president,
that it was present the entire time he was in
(00:43):
the White House, that it got worse and worse, And
you mentioned the her tapes. You and I on this
podcast called for those hurtapes to be released publicly, and
the Biden Justice Department, the Democrats stonewalled, and the media
had zero interest in what was in those hur tapes.
They didn't want to hear them at all. They were
not interested in anything that would contradict their narrative. The
(01:03):
contrast between the facts and what Democrats and the corporate
media said is night and day. It is a stunning
indictment of how much of official Washington conspired to lie
to the American people and fundamentally to try to steal
an election. We're going to break down all of the details.
(01:26):
We're going to walk through what's in the her tapes
and just how everyone involved, from the Vice President to
the cabinet, to the members of Congress, to the media,
they all knew and they were all deliberately lying. Now,
let me say this as you and I sit here.
It is three seventeen PM on Sunday. Just ten minutes
(01:46):
ago a story broke. We don't know the full details,
but President Biden's office put out a statement that says
last week President Joe Biden was seen for a new
finding of a prostate none after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms.
On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer characterized by
(02:09):
a Gleason's score of nine grade group five with metastasis
to the bone. While this represents a more aggressive form
of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone sensitive,
which allows for effective management. The President and his family
are reviewing treatment options with his physicians. Now this broke
(02:31):
literally minutes ago. We don't know anything else other than
that statement, but I will certainly say our prayers are
with former President Biden and his family. A diagnosis of
cancer is always a frightening thing. As you know, my
mother is a two time cancer survivor. It is a
horrible thing to go through. So we pray that his
treatment goes well.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
At the same time, President Biden's illness does not erase
the deliberate lying by common Mala Harris, by the White
House staff, and by the entire corporate media architecture, plus
the cabinet, plus the cabinet plus the Congress. This was
(03:12):
a deliberate deception. And by the way, one of the
victims I think of this deceptions was Joe Biden, because
as his decline accelerated, the phrase elder abuse has been
used to put him in a position where where there
was very little credible argument he could do the job.
I think that was cruel. And all right, here's one
(03:33):
of the one of the one of the pieces of
facts that it has broken, and I'm going to read
read to you from There's there's a big article in
the Atlantic. Uh that that that breaks down Uh Jake
Tapper's new book on on Biden's decline and and and
by the way, The Atlantic is a very left wing publication.
It's astonishing. I'm gonna read several portions from this article
(03:54):
because it's astonishing what they report. Three years later, on
the presidential campaign trail, Biden's struggles became more obvious to
those around him. Tapper and Thompson report that in twenty twenty,
so before he becomes president, members of Biden's inner circle
gave the candidate a teleprompter with scripted questions for a
(04:16):
local news interview. It was an apparent effort to work
around his dwindling communicative and cognitive abilities. Aids lamented that
even then, quote, they couldn't rely on him to stay
on message, and he often had a very short attention span.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Let's go to the year here. I want to timestamp
this so people understand twenty twenty. This isn't the beginning
of his presidency.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, no, he was elected president in twenty twenty.
This is before he was president. He's still a candidate.
You sound like Joe Biden the Robert hurtape. You can't
remember he was elected in twenty twenty. He was sworn
in in January of twenty twenty one, so he is
a candidate for president. And I got to tell you, look,
I have been in the Senate for thirteen years. I've
(05:03):
done at this point, probably thousands of interviews. I have
no idea how many interviews I've had. I've never once
had the questions on a teleprompter. I've never once had
answers on a teleprompter. I've read from a teleprompter. If
I'm like recording a speech or something, a teleprompter can
be helpful, you know, if you're recording a TV commercial,
you'll have a script up on a teleprompter. But the
(05:23):
idea of an interview is you're supposed to be answering
questions and not prescripted. You're not reading something somebody else
wrote for you. And I got to say, I want
you to listen to an interview Brett Bair did where
he asked the Biden campaign about this, and it is remarkable.
The Biden campaign is dodging their evasive They don't want
(05:46):
to answer the question, and nobody else in the media
cared even ask the question.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
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This is from Brettberer show on Fox News Channel. Take
a look.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Has Joe Biden ever used a teleprompter during local interviews
or to answer Q and A with supporters?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Brett, We're not gonna get this. This is straight from
the Trump campaign. Yeah, they're using and what it does
and what it does, Brett is it's trying to distract
the American people.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I'm using it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
They talk about it every day. Can you say yes
or no?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
That's because they talk about it every day, Brett, because
they don't have a coherence. Well you have to answer yes, sure, no, Brett.
They talk about it every day because they don't have
a coherent argument for why Donald Trump deserves reelection, deserves
four more years. We know that he lied to the
American people, We know that he has not shown leadership
during this crisis, and they are desperate to throw anything
they can against the wall to try to distract from
(08:28):
that fact.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I understand, but you can't answer the question, Brett.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I am not going to allow Trump campaign to funnel
their questions through Fox News and get me to respond
to that.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I don't think any of us shows how telling. That
interview was a he said twenty twenty at the bottom
of the screen. It was the election right of twenty twenty.
The cover up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, as you mentioned, MOMO,
started before he even became president.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And I'm not aware of anyone else in the media
other than Brettbair that asked that question. There may have
been some but I don't know of anyone else, certainly CNNA,
I don't recall Sann reporting you know it is, and in.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Fact, if you even brought it up, they were angry
at you, right.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And it's worth look underscoring how unusual you've been in
journalism and in politics a long time. Have you ever
encountered any other candidate for any other office that has
scripted questions and answers from local reporters?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And in fact, the higher that office gets, the bigger
of the office, though less likely it would be for
that to be acceptable, Like even if it was running
for dog catcher, this wouldn't be normal. But the fact
that you're talking about the presidency of United States America.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Even the only other instance I can think of that
was like this is is there was an instance with
CNN on the Mitt Romney Barack Obama debate with Candy Crowley,
where what was it? I guess Donna Brazil was accused
of giving Obama the questions ahead of time and it
was a big scandal. Yeah, I mean that, that's how
(09:56):
bizarre and out of the mainstream. And let me read
you another story from the same article in the end
from the book The book's most astounding, previously unreported story
from Biden's twenty twenty campaign concerns his staff's attempt to
create videos of the candidates speaking with voters over Zoom.
Tapper and Thompson's description of this is worth quoting at length.
(10:19):
Biden would sit in a room with several monitors beaming
the faces of real Americans in front of him so
that he could discuss issues of importance. Remember this is
during COVID. The videos came back hours of footage. Some
on the team couldn't believe their eyes. Quote the videos
were horrible. One top Democrat said he couldn't follow the
(10:42):
conversation at all. Quote. I couldn't believe it, said a
second Democrat, who hadn't seen Biden in years. It was
like a different person. It was incredible. It was like
watching Grandpa who shouldn't be driving. A special team was
brought in and told to edit the videos down to
(11:03):
make them arable, if only a few minutes worth. They
had to get creative, the authors go on to write, quote,
edited the videos likely appeared find viewers. Biden no worse
than any other senior on zoom, but two of the
Democrats who were involved in the film's production together were dumbfounded. Quote,
(11:24):
I didn't think he could be president. The second Democrats said,
after what they'd seen, they couldn't understand how Biden could
be capable of doing the job. That was in twenty twenty. Yeah,
that was before he was president, and that mental decline.
By the way, all the reporters who were saying there's
(11:48):
nothing to see here, their sole hope, the glimmer that
they're holding on to is Biden was fine in twenty twenty,
twenty one, twenty two, and it's just at the very
end in twenty four he had a decline. So we
didn't realize that's their sole basis because they're two and
only two options. One Biden had declined badly the entire time,
(12:12):
and the entire media lied and covered it up. Or
two it was precipitous at the end, now on the
line and covering it up. On Friday's pod, we played
a montage of all of the corporate media hacks just
covering for Biden's decline year after year after year. We've
got another montage that we're going to play right now.
This one's a video montage. So this is one of
(12:33):
the episodes that we do on YouTube on video as well,
so you can watch it, and it shows how they
were walking the walk and talking the talk. They were
reading their talking points, and their talking points is Joe
Biden is Albert Einstein combined with like absolute precision. He's amazing.
(12:54):
He's no mental decline at all. They stuck to their
talking points.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Take a look, start your take right now, because I'm
about to tell you the truth and f you if
you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
You know, he knows so long as in fact, I
think he's better than he's ever been President.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Biden has a photographic memory. His understanding and mastery of.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
A complicated geopolitical situation remarkable.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Jackie you here, where's Jackie? I think she was going
to be here.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I was sitting, you know, a two feet from him
across the table, and he was, you know, intense.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It's got trouble walking sometimes, yeah, so did FBR.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
He wanted gd war.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But he's totally focused.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
He's very sharp. They say he's sharpened meetings and so on.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Very lucid, well, very well infor him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Biden is stately and he comes with gravitas.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single
claim that Biden made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Agism is an issue. Americans have a rich history of
holding people's physical characteristics against them.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Okay, you can ask African.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
Americans he's older, that doesn't mean that he is unfit.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
And there's a lot of agism there.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Now, this age attack, this obsession by the right, Joe
Biden may not be able to speak for himself the
way that he used to.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
They want to take on government if we get out
of line, which they're talking on again about and him
lying around.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
I think people should be speaking up for Joe Biden.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
Americans and reporters in the media are just judging him
by a physical appearance, and it's form of the unfair
age is an accent.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He showed exactly how with it he is.
Speaker 9 (14:43):
The flip side of this coin is that he has
a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met
with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
No more wild speculation from a bunch of people who
have probably never been the room with Joe Biden and
certainly don't have medical degrees that I'm aware of.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
If you don't get paid for performance to be president,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
The job is not a job of endurance. I don't
see Donald Trump out by riding like Joe Biden.
Speaker 10 (15:12):
It's the Hillary's email.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
All they have is that he's on he can clear
a dementia bar and that's probably a win.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The media are not fair, and they're getting less and
less fair, and things are frightening.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
You have.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Wall Street Journal running a horribly sourced piece saying that
Biden is unfaired ubi as Wall Street Journal report about
the president's acuity.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as
you said, But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting,
They didn't follow up, they didn't do any work here.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
The to day is hersh Goldberg Poland is still he
is not here is but he's still being held by
a mind.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
But a huge part of the Mulla report talks about
Russian disinformation tactics, and one of the things this election's
like is that Joe Biden is too old to lead,
and so everyone is seizing upon this, and it is
a classic disinformation tactic. And I think the best thing
that we can do is to prepare the American people
for this false narrative.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
What do you say to that. I mean, that's just
they're insisting there's no mental decline. In fact, he's phenomenal.
So we heard twenty twenty he had to have a
teleprompter to be interviewed by a local reporter. He couldn't
do a zoom with real people because it was incoherent
and seemed like your grandfather who you wouldn't want driving.
(16:36):
Here's twenty twenty two, and this is again from the
Atlantic article. In twenty twenty two, According to one witness,
Biden found himself unable to remember the name of his
own national security advisor, Jake Sullivan Steve he called him
at least twice, or his communications director Kate betty Field,
(17:01):
whom he once resorted to calling press. Now, that is
not normal.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And people need to understand you're around those two individuals
on like virtually a daily basis, sometimes multiple times a day.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And listen, Bob, it is weird not to know the
name of someone you deal with daily.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
John, I couldn't agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
More like, what okay? To not know your own national
security advisor is not okay. That's a problem. And so
you and I have asked multiple times on this podcast
a question I've been asked literally thousands of times by Texans.
Who's running the country. What's interesting. There's a segment in
this Atlantic article where they address that, and here's what
(17:43):
they say. As some high ranking Democrats quoted anonymously in
the book put it to Tapper and Thompson after Biden's
disastrous debate last June, quote, just who the hell is
running the country? At least one unnamed source close to
the administration was willing to provide the authors with an answer. Quote,
(18:05):
five people were running the country, this insider said, seemingly
referring to the president's closest advisors. And Joe Biden was
at best a senior member of the board at best.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So he's number six and there's five ahead of him
that were right in the country.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Now, I want you to listen to this exchange. This
is I actually think the most stunning part of the
book so far. And by the way, let me know
you and I haven't read the book. The book hasn't
come out. You and I both know Jake Tapper very well.
Jake Tapper was upset at Friday's podcast and he disputed
(18:46):
our characterization. He said he was not he was not
defending Biden, he was not lying to the American people.
And you know what, Jake texted me and said, Hey,
I want to come on the pod. I want to
set the record straight. And I told him you were
welcome to come on the pod. So if Jake wants
to come on the pod, he is welcome. He has
an open invitation, and we're trying to set it up
(19:06):
and our team is talking to his team and trying
to schedule it. Look unlike a lot of places when
I go on interviews, particularly with the left wing media,
they sandbag you, they attack you that they are wildly unfair. Look,
if Jake comes on, he'll get a fair opportunity. He
claims some of the quotes were taken out of context,
He'll get every opportunity to give all of the context. Now,
(19:28):
he should not expect softballs. Sure, he actually has to
address his real record. But if he wants to come on,
there are a million listeners to a verdict who would
be happy to hear him claim that he was not
part of what the rest of the media was doing,
which was lying for four straight years about Biden's mental decline.
I hope that could happen. I would welcome Jake for
(19:51):
as he put it, in an adult conversation. I think
that would be something, Amen, you don't find a lot
of times when you turn on the television set. Let's
read this segment from the book, and I have to
rely on The Atlantic because that's all we have is
the excerpts that are out. Here's what it says. Quote.
Near the end of their book, Tapper and Thompson offer
a glimpse into how powerful Democrats responded to the grim
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spectacle of Biden's early summer face off with Trump. The
authors describe a scene at the homes home of James Costos,
an ambassador to Spain under Obama, where celebrities and politicians
gathered to watch the debate. As a doddering Biden tanked
on stage in front of fifty million Americans. The film
(20:34):
director and Democratic donor Rob Reiner became scared, then furious.
I do kind of like meatheads. Scared and furious. That
makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Quote We're gonna lose our efing democracy because of you.
It doesn't say e fing, I abbreviated it, he screamed,
seeming to direct his ire at the closest thing to
a Biden official in the room, second gentleman Doug Mhoff.
What Reiner apparently failed to consider, but what original sin
(21:05):
prompts readers to ask, is whether American democracy was already
meaningfully diminished. This is really important. Listen to what the
Atlantic writer says describing how some in the Biden world
justified propping him up for reelection in twenty twenty four,
A longtime aide told Tapper and Thompson he just had
(21:27):
to win and then he could disappear for four years.
He'd only have to show proof of life every once
in a while. In other words, before Biden stepped down
from the race, the plan for some AIDS seemed to
be a weekend at Bernie's, a cognitively impaired president, in
(21:50):
the hopes that, upon winning a second term, he could
be hidden from the public while unelected staff took care
of the real business of governing. Quote, when you vote
for somebody, you are voting for the people around them.
To the AID offered as a way of justifying what was,
by any reasonable metric, an effort to undermine democracy and
(22:15):
defraud the American people.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So to be clear what Democrats were doing in and
around Joe Biden is number one. He wasn't round the
country and best he was six on the on the
pecking order list. If they if we believe the five
who are above either and.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We don't know the five, yeah, people get to know
the five? Is that?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I would love to know and that and that brings up.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A question, and are there any reporters at ABCNBCCBS, CNN
asking that question? Do they who are the five? One?
Look like when you list the presidents in the history book?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you list the five?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Is forty six going to have an asterisk and be
the actual president or the following five people? Or or
does does nobody care?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Which which brings you the question that I think everybody
listening right now are watching, is thinking there has to
be some sort of investigation in theory I figure this
out so it never happens again. I don't care if
it's a Republican or Democrat. If you're incapacitated as a Republican,
you shouldn't have a country run by a pyramid of
(23:15):
five random people that no one elected, that hell you
can't even name, are not being named.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I agree with you and the standard. I want to
quote again from the left wing Atlantic, the quote this
was quote by any reasonable metric, an effort to undermine
democracy and defraud the American people. Every Democrat who lied
(23:43):
to the American people ought to be asked about their
effort to undermine democracy and defraud the American people. Now,
one of the things they did is they kept hidden
the her tapes.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And let's remind people quickly the her tapes twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Robert Hurr was a special counsel appointed and it was
an inconvenient fact. So the Biden Justice Department desperately wanted
to stop Donald Trump from getting reelected. They wanted to
stop the voters for voting for him, so they indicted him.
They indicted him multiple times. One of the things they
indicted him for was allegedly and properly storing classified documents
at mar Lago. And then they had the incredibly inconvenient
(24:24):
fact that Joe Biden had committed the exact same thing,
not once, but over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And he was caught red handed, and maybe I've had
documents that said back to when he was like in
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
When he was in the Senate classified documents, which is
bizarre you and I talked about in the Senate. I
can tell you with an absolute fact, there are zero
classified documents in my house. There are zero classified documents
by my antique corvette, because I don't have an antique corvette.
And I can tell you there aren't classified documents anywhere else.
(24:55):
Why because I've only read classified documents one place, which
is in a skiff. The skiff is a secure compartmental
location in the basement of the Capitol. I've read a
lot of classified documents, but I go down to the skiff,
I read them there, and I leave them there so
I don't stick them in my socks or underwear, which
by the way, Bill Clinton's national security advisor Sandy Berger did,
(25:16):
I don't smuggle them out. So I don't know how
Joe Biden as a senator had classified documents at his
beach house because I never took him to I've never
once taken them out of the skiff. But I want
you to listen. So Robert Hurr was a prosecutor. He
was assigned to investigate Joe Biden. He concluded, by the way,
Joe Biden violated the exact same law that they were
(25:37):
prosecuting Donald Trump for allegedly violating. And then DOJ refused
to prosecute Biden because they said he was incompetent to
be tried. Yes, and Robert her had some descriptions about
how Biden you couldn't get convict him in front of
a jury because he was an old man with a
poor memory, and no jury would convict him. And the
(26:00):
entire Democrat machine roared back at him, the media, all
the people who are covering up Biden. They tried to
demonize Robert Horror as the bad guy. Robert Herr is
the bad guy. And by the way, you and I
on this show called for release the tapes people here
and the DOJ said no, that they asserted executive immunity,
(26:25):
which was incoherent, It made no sense legally. What they
were really asserting is this is politically embarrassing and people
will realize that we're covering up a mentally incompetent president
if they're released. Well, they've been released. Now. I want
you to listen. I want you to listen to one
segment here that this is the DOJ prosecutor interviewing Joe Biden.
(26:46):
This is in twenty twenty three. Give a listen during
Shambers road and work door to.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
The bio shot. Uh wear book.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Where did you keep papers that related to those things
that you were actively working?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Well, I I I I I I don't know. This
is what twenty seventeen eighteen, that period is. Remember in
this time frame, my son is uh either been deployed
(27:34):
or is dying.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
And uh. And so it was uh.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And by the way, there were still a lot of
people at the time when I got out of this
and that were encouraging me to run in this period. Uh,
except the president.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Uh. I'm not being there. Not a mean thing to say. Man.
You just thought that she had a better shot of
winning the president than I did. And so I hadn't.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I hadn't at this point, even on a band, I
hadn't walked away from the idea that I might run
for office again.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Uh if our rand again and been running for president
and uh. And so what was happening though when.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Went to bom Dying, U got a mazed thirty years
U twenty eighteen when the twenty fifteen and died was
made twenty fifteen, think it's twenty fifteen or eat that.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Much of the months or when he goes here. That's right,
that's the president, that's it. And uh what's happened in
the meantime is that uh.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
As and.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Shrump gets elected in November of twenty seventeen, twenty sixty sixteen,
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Alright, so hight after twenty seventeen, that's when you left
office in January of time, I said, oh okay, but
that's when Trump had sworn in at the White end,
would right? Quite? Ok?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Athlete and uh in twenty seventeen both had passed and uh, man,
it's this person the genesis of the book, and the
(29:48):
title promised me.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Dad was a uh. I know, they're all closer to
your sons and daughters, but.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Bo was.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Like my right arm, and that was my left. These
guys were a year and a day apart, and they
could finish each other's sentences, and bo I used to
go home on the train and the period that I
(30:29):
was still the sentence.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
An they ran.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Do you remember there was pressure, not pressure. Bo knew
how much I'd do with them. And uh, and then
it sounds maybe it sounds so.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Everybody knew how closely were Remember, there's not anybody lender,
whether or not.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Anyway, and sat break.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, let me just keep going to get in tone
the last part there. I actually feel bad for Joe Biden.
I think it's very clear that people were taking advantage
of him. I think this is a form of elder abuse.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, that was sad.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It is It's just it is absolutely sad. That is
the president United States of America and the fact that
there were somebody you were wanting to keep their power,
whoever those five people were, that they did this to him.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Look and and he do you remember remember the question
that was in the front of that What was it?
It was where you're keeping classified documents? And he went
down a four minute recollection of losing his son tragically.
And there's nothing sadder than a parent burying a child.
And then that's certainly a personal tragedy that Joe Biden
(31:55):
has had more than his fair share of. But he
was not able to even answer the question. Well, all right,
here's another segment of her tapes. Let listen. Listen to
this next excerpts.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
A memo, mister president, Was this something that you consciously
kept after your term as vice president?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Is this something that you wanted to hold out to
I don't recall did I have this? Is this in
my possession to spend up?
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Yes, to give me some context for this, mister president.
He was found in front of this notebook that's on
the first page, and the notebook was found in the.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Library at the Lake House.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
In one of the apernswers, I don't recall how I
came back. I mean, I don't recall how I got
back in the book because I sent it to the
President and gave it to the president. And this looks
like the original. I don't think there's any Maybe it's
a copy made of I don't think sto.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
It was just oh okay, that's why.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, alright, no, I got I wasn't sure how I
got how I whether I gay handed the president. It
was back to the President, which I had to copy, right, Okay,
I had the reason and I just put it in
the book and that was it.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Did were you aware that you had kept it after
your returns vice president?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Did you know that you had it? I?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I I I don't know that I knew would wouldn't
It wouldn't some something I would washed time to think about.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
The reason I asked is it's been written about about
the Woodward wrote about it.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
In one of his books, Jewels would.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Cover, wrote about it and his Bay out of You.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
So that's that's the reason I asked if it was
something that he wanted to hang on to you because
he was gonna be such a reporting or his show reported.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
But I I wanted to hang I guess I wanted
to hang on it. Just proposterity sting. I mean, this
one is my position on Afghanistan. I I've been to
view from a historical standpoint that there are certain points
in history, world history where fundamental things change, usually technology.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
For example, without Gutenberg's.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Printing press, Europe gonna be a very different place, literally
a different place, because countries would not have known what
was happening in another country of the parts of the country.
You know, Uh, think about a stupid idea, an notion.
Nixon probably been unpresident where he used to television where
he sweatings I'm I'm used in saily.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
His sweating is so profusely in that debate.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
A lot of people thought he won the debate, but
he lost the debate because of his demeanor. The So
there's a lot of things that I think are fundamentally
changing how international society's function.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
And there remained a lot to technology and one of
the things that.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
I was in the view that.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
A lot has changed in terms of everything from.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
The Internet to the way which we communicate with one
another to that has fundamentally older. I've had this discussion
with the press, Fred, and I mean, that's that's what
I wanted to do.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I have nothing to do with that. Fans and Mark,
just really quickly, I promise will be brief.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I just really would like to avoid, for the purpose
of the clean record, getting into specuative areas. When the
President responded and said, I don't recall intending to keep
this memo, you then said, well, you know, might you
have thought it was important to keep whatever, And he said, well,
I guess I could have his recollection. As I understand
it is he does not recall specifically intending to keep
(35:59):
this memo app let.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
The vice presidency.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I don't want that to be I want these questions
to be as clearly answered and recorded on the transfer
as possible.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
I think we should take a gratis.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
If there's one thing, it's consistent. They wanted to take
a break, and you had the questions coming in in
such a kind way like this is not what I
was expecting.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So let me say legally that exchange is very important.
So this is a classified document on Afghanistan. I don't
actually know the precise details of the document, but it's
a classified document in Afghanistan that he had in a
non secure location, which is a criminal violation. Is the
violation they were charging. Right then, the Biden Justice Department
(36:40):
was prosecuting Donald Trump for doing exactly that, and the
prosecutor asked him, so did you intend to keep this document?
And he's like, I don't know. I don't And immediately
his lawyer jumps in. Your answer is you don't know?
Now as lawyer's been a good lawyer there. Yeah, because
this is all about establishing the men's raya the mental
(37:01):
status to be guilty of the crime. But then Biden
goes on and says, you know, well, why did you
keep it. It's been reported, it's been in this book,
it's that book. And he says, well, I kept it
for posterity. It was important to have and his lawyer
comes in at the end. He's like, oh crap, oh crap.
You just admitted that you did it on purpose, and
you kept it because you wanted to be able to
(37:22):
tell a really good story about Joe Biden, and you
wanted to lead classified information to reporters, and you needed
the memo to do it. And he admits that, and
then his reporter at the end is lawyer at the
end tries to clean that up. That exchange has enormous
legal significance. Had doj not concluded that the sitting president
(37:43):
of the United States was incompetent to stand trial, let
me repeat that sentence, because it's an astonishing one. Had
doj not concluded that the sitting president is incompetent to
stand trial, that exchange would have featured prominently in the
criminal trial convicting him of violating that law.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You look at now what we're seeing with this Herd tape,
and I go back to accountability. There are clearly people
that were helping cover this up. They were taking advantage
of Joe Biden. I think his family obviously was in
on this as well. They wanted the power. Whoever the
five people are the question I ask you, is how
the hell do we find out who the five people are?
(38:26):
And what is Congress's role playing this to make sure
it never happens again.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
There should absolutely be congressional hearings. We need an answer.
The media ought to do its job and report. I
want to play one more excerpt from the her tapes.
Listen to this final excerpt.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
I went to Mongolia and great Pictures.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
I unfortunately embarrassed the leader of Mongolia. And they were
doing what they would do at the time of the animation.
Moncles into Europe and four chess the eight hundreds and
and so.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Around the middle of nowhere, and they're looking up in
the aile and see this tiny line.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Now it was a twenty mile horse race with all
these kids under the age of sixteen hour bare back
rationing to come down.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
And you know they're sumer wrestler, so doing everything they do.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
And uh so they walked over and they had uh target,
big bales of hey a hundred yards away, and these
gorillas were, you know, taking shots, and uh, I think,
I don't know, it's an embarrassed marriage.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
I make a point, but the handed the bow and arrow.
I'm not a bad orcherd. But uh all I found
that word, I could pull it back. So I h
and pure the luck. I hate the guy na target.
Oh I really did.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Bales of hayes are really twenty bales of hay with
a with a big target in the.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
Middle of a bail day. And so I didn't meet
any but I turned to a primary handed to him
before some bitch couldn't pull back stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
So look, if Genghis Khan, if Genghis Khan comes comes in,
if we face the Mongol Horde, know that that Joe
Biden is ready to fire his bow and arrow. Look,
there are a lot of things you can say about
this interview, but it's very clear why Democrats did not
(40:25):
want this release before the election, because anyone listening would
would make up their own mind. And I want to
contrast what you've heard, what you've heard with your own ears,
to what Kamala Harris said right after this report came out,
Because Kamala Harris, you asked about the five people. I
doubt Kamala was one of the five. Actually I think
it was. It was Barack Obama and four henchmen. But
(40:49):
Kamala was willing to like wield a knife and attack
the prosecutor that the Biden dj had appointed for telling
the truth that that Biden's medical opacity was just severely deteriorated.
Rather than fess up, rather than be truthful to the
American people, she was happy to lie. Give a listen.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
And what I saw of that report last night, I
believe is as a former prosecutor, the comments that were
made by that prosecutor gratuitous, inaccurate, and inappropriate. October seventh,
(41:35):
Israel experienced a horrific attack, and I will tell you
we got the calls the President and myself in the
hours after that occurred. It was an intense moment for
the commander in chief of the United States of America.
(41:55):
And I was in almost every meeting with the President
in the hours and days that followed, countless hours with
the Pier of Defense, the Secretary of State, the heads
of our intelligence community, and the President was in front
(42:17):
of and on top of it all, asking questions and
requiring that America's military and intelligence community and diplomatic community
would figure out to know how many people were dead,
how many are Americans? How many hostages? Is the situation stable?
(42:39):
He was in front of it all, coordinating and directing
leaders who are in charge of America's national security not
to mention our allies around the globe for days and
up until now months. So the way that the president's
(43:03):
demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more
wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous. And
so I will say that when it comes to the
role and responsibility of a prosecutor in a situation like that,
(43:26):
we should expect that there would be a higher level
of integrity than what we saw.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
So in front of and on top of it all,
So what you just saw was Kamala Harris lying to
the American people, doing so knowingly the guy we heard
on the tape she interacts every time. I actually want
to play one more clip. I want to play Alejandro
mayork as the Secretary of Homeland Security. This is on
National Television, describing his experiences with Joe Biden.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden
is preparing for it because he is sharp, intensely probing,
and detail oriented and focused.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Okay, if he said that in court, he would be
prosecuted for perjury. He's lying. And by the way, may
Orcus is a liar. He's a lawyer. He knows he's lying,
and he doesn't care. Kamala Harris is also a lawyer.
She's also a liar. She knows she's lying. She doesn't care.
Everyone in the media, who over and over and over
(44:30):
again lied. This was as you and I had described.
We've invoke the analogy weekend at Bernie's, which is actually
ironically what Jake Tapper Alex Thompson invoke. Weekend at Bernie's,
for those of y'all who don't remember, is a movie
thirty years ago about a guy who dies and they
spend the whole weekend at his place anyway, and they
just kind of they just keep the corpse there to
(44:52):
be with them. That's what they effectively wanted to do.
They wanted to prop up a president who they knew
was meant incompetent and hide them away. They apparently a
group of.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
People who decide they don't want to be president, and
they didn't have to run for office.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Either, And there is a contempt for democracy and a
contempt for the voters. Every single elected Democrat ought to
be asked repeatedly, why did you lie to the American people?
And every reporter who was complicit in it ought to
be asked repeatedly, why did you lie to the American people.
(45:29):
They should not be able to sweep this under the
rug because it was for five years, it was deliberate,
it was consistent, and it was without regard to the
consequences for this country.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
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