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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There is a trend that is starting, and it is
a trend that is going back to something that I've said.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
For a long time. It's the economy.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Stupid Nobel Laureate's coming out back in Kamala Harris, the
media coming out back in Kamala Harris. But voters seem
to be very clear about something. They trust Donald Trump
to fix, the economy. Elitas are out there also trying
to gaslight the country, saying that only Harris can save
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us from the nightmare, which is Donald Trump. The problem
is this, many Americans believe that the only person that
can save us from the inflation nightmare that Americans are
facing is a guy by the name of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That is the interesting part of this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Donald Trump is also so just hammering Harris on all
text issues, including tariffs. Kamala Harris's message on tariffs' is
being well, strongly rejected by American voters. There are certain
things that happen in debates which you don't think at
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the moment are a big deal, and then they.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Turn into massive deals. What I mean by that is this.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
In her CNN town hall on Wednesday, Harris once again
misleadingly called Trump's tariffs proposals a quote national sales tax
of at least twenty percent on everyday goods and necessities,
that's their exact quote, and claim that they would raise
costs for American families. She couldn't even bring herself to
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use the word tariff, by the way, when she was
on TV on CNN. The problem is the American people
don't believe her. The number she used of twenty percent
was so high that there has been a large number
of people that have responded with like significant backlash, going
I don't buy it, I don't believe you. The American
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people apparently agree with Trump that the word tariff is
actually not a bad word, but the most beautiful word
in this presidential election. CNBC All American Economists survey released
on Thursday showed that fifty four percent of Americans now
say they trust Trump. That's fifty four percent of Americans,
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so they trust Trump to do a better job on
tariff's and imports in the economy in general. Just thirty
two percent say they trust Kamala Harris, meaning they believe
that she's lying.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Now that's one poll.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
When one poll comes out, I look for another poll
to see if there is a real trend. Well, sure enough,
a Reuter's poll came out and found that fifty six
percent of voters support Donald Trump's tear proposal, and then
an ABC News poll release last week found that fifty
seven percent of voters support raising tariffs, including nineteen percent
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who strongly support the view. As Donald Trump has said
it's time for us to put tariffs and to attack
those that are hurting America like China, they're saying, yes,
we like the idea. Now, what's interesting about this is
that CNN after their debate with their headline underneath it
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right eleven days out Harris and Georgia, Trump and Nevada
and Arizona, and they're You're giving their you know, big commentary.
One of the things that they said was this about
the tariffs. Take a listen as they even are in
shock that the American people are going against Harris.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, we about your chime and a lot of this stuff. Hell,
I've been discussing this for over a year now on
this network. The needle hasn't necessarily moved against a former president.
I'm just speaking as a strategist here. There's a reason
this race is tied. Connect Now, perhaps some people may
dismiss it. Perhaps there are other priorities that people are
more concerned about. But clearly that message alone isn't resonating
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with enough voters to give Vice President Harris a comfortable lead.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In this race. Web say I have this in the bag,
but she doesn't for a reason.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
See, it's not that message alone.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
This isn't the only thing that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
She's talking about.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
One of the things that I thought.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Was so good what she is talking about, I will
tell you.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And you're not listening very well.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Trump last night.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Which that was mister wonderful by the way, from Charta,
and he's like, what is she talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm trying to figure out what is she talking about? Here?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm listening and you could hear Maria Cardenter there. She's
like trying to defend the indefensible. You hear the other person.
Harris hasn't necessarily moved the needle against Donald Trump. And
by the way, you should be able to move the
needle when you walk into friendly environments day after day
after day. Harris's economic proposals, many believe are going to
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go are going to kill America's economy. Fox Business Network
had a conversation about Harris's plan to quote go after corporations.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That is what she said she wants to do.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now her proposals to be clear, and this is where
Americans are like, I don't know if I like. This
would be a massive increase of the corporate tax rate
to twenty eight percent, a forty four point six percent
capital gains tax on any of your investments every year. Okay,
so you put up all the risk with your investments.
The government doesn't lose money with you. Right, you put
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money into retirement account for a one K, you have
capital gains. So she wants to say, if you make money,
I take forty four percent of it. So everybody in
America that has a retirement account, everybody in America has
capital gains, right, meaning that you have capital. So I'm
going to use a round number. Let's say you have
one hundred thousand dollars invested. She believes if that number
goes to one hundred and ten thousand in a year,
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you should be tax meaning they get forty four zero
point six percent of that ten thousand dollars you just made.
Do you have any idea what that does to your future?
It destroys you. That's exactly what Kamala Harris is trying
to do.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She also has not just and that's capitol games.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, so you understand capital games is different than unrealized games.
So unrealized games she wants to tax at twenty five percent.
Unrealized games are when you have a stock that you purchased,
all right, and you haven't sold the stock. So let's
say I buy a share of Walmart and Walmart goes
from fifty dollars to sixty three dollars. Let's say I
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buy a stock in a company and they come out
with some new life saving drug, cancer drug, and that
stock doubles or triples. She wants twenty five percent of
the increase in that stock price since you bought it
every year, year over year over year over year.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Now you didn't sell the stock.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Okay, maybe there's a big bump and that thing goes up,
but you don't want to sell the stock, so it's
got to come down. You think it's going to level out.
Maybe you're playing the long game. Stocks. What happens? They
go up and down all the time, every day, right,
every day, they go up and up and down, up
and down.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well, if you at the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
She says, take a snap shot and any stock that
you've got more money in than you did last year,
I want twenty five percent of it. Well, if that
stock goes down the next day, she didn't care.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is she going to cover?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Help you cover the losses at twenty five percent? No,
So this is another extreme taxation of the American people.
She also wants communist price controls, price controls on groceries,
price controls on virtually, uh everything that she says she
believes the price has gotten too high. She then says, oh,
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and I want an up to a six thousand dollar
child tax credit. Well, you can have the six thousand dollars.
I got three kids. By the way, if you're gonna
if you're going to tax, I don't care about the
six thousand dollars tax credit. If you're taking twenty five
percent or twenty eight percent of my corporate taxes if
I'm a corporation, forty four point six percent capital gains tax,
twenty five percent tax on unrealized gains, Like you just
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sucked all the money out of my life, all of
the all of my hard work every year just disappears.
I invest, I pay taxes before I invest in the
money that I'm investing, and bam, twenty five percent tax
and I realized gains Like this is insane. Take a
listen to this from Fox and how they described it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I think Brooke made a really good point, Cheryl by saying, look,
we've all lived through both administrations. We've lived through a
Trump administration and we've lived through a Kamala Harrison administration.
It's only fair to ask yourself, are you better off
today than you were four years ago? I would say
the answer increasingly is no.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Well you and I went.
Speaker 9 (08:34):
Through those numbers earlier this week, Maria. When it came
to the economics under the Trump administration versus the economics
under the Biden Harris administration, and when it came to inflation,
when it came to immigration, but when it also came
to wages, the differences were startling. And as far as
going after these corporations, which Democrats always say this, this
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is always their talking point, those evil corporations, you know,
Bernie Anders last weekend on Sunday Morning Futures. The thing is,
those corporations employ millions of Americans. Those corporations provide for
one ks and healthcare to millions of Americans. So if
her plan is to go after corporations, you're going to
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be killing jobs, You're going to be hurting people's finances.
And we've seen from poll after poll that as right on,
right on Q forty two percent feel that they're better
off financially under President Trump. Those are the numbers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Those are the numbers. I love how they describe it.
These are the numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You want to living in your communism, You want to
go to work every day and the majority of your
money goes to the federal government. You want to invest
in a retirement account, and then every time you have
unrealized gains on a stock, you got to write a
check to the government.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That is the Kamala Harris plan.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's not like we're guessing she's telling you they're going
to take your money.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Folks, are going to take your money.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Kama Harris, by the way, is obsessed with trying to
figure out a way to connect with the voters.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
In the last days, her town hall didn't work.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So now she's moving back to the issue, which she
thinks is I guess the whole ballgame for her, and
that's the issue of abortion.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
She's going to Texas. So doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I understand the logic, but it still doesn't make sense
to me, and I'm going to explain it. So she's losing. Okay,
she knows she's losing. We're starting to see these trends.
It's starting to feel like that the American people are like, yeah,
we don't like her, and she's now turned to fear right,
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he's a fascist, right, don't jump to fascists. In the
last twenty four hours, he's hit where anybody out there
that wants to be inspired to go kill him? Go
kill him, Please help Americans out. That's the last minute effort.
She was in Georgia. She had the boss Bruce Springsteen
on stage, which, by the way, Democrats just have better
musicians and Republicans.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'm good with it. I understand it. You can't win
it everything.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
In life, right, So if you and and and let's
be honest, a lot of musicians are a weird, little
fighty little you know, crazy. They are like a lot
of drugs, a lot of weed, a lot of alcohol. Okay, Like,
so if the weed people and the drug people and
the alcohol people.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Right are on your team, like, it's not really adult.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So I don't know how many be like Damn, I
saw Bruce Springsteen up there on stage of Kamala, and
I'm gonna vote for now because of Bruce Springs and
the Boss. Like, I just don't think that's a normal
conversation that's taking place. And Democrats always go back to
celebrities when they're hurting. Beyonce. Guess who's gonna be with Kamala.
Beyonce comes out, Beyonce's gonna appear with Kamala. And Houston, Texas,
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you know, Beyonce's sometown. I don't know if there's a
lot of people like man Beyonce. Taylor Swift is another
great example of this, right. Taylor Swift is like, you know,
Republicans are Satan and we've held if we had this
fight in our house, Okay. So like I'm one of
those where I don't expect everybody around me to believe
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what I believe. I'm good with it, right, Like my
own mom disagrees with me on things. So my wife
has been twice to a Taylor Swift concert, not once,
but twice. My producer is is judging right now, you
can't I judge too, And I'm like look, it's your decision.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't care. Like, if that's what you want to do,
you like like do it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But but when she came out, she's like, I'm supporting Kama,
remember that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And then like before that, she's like supporting Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I just don't think that that really moves the needle
that much. I think Bruce Springsteen being on stage, I
don't think that moves the needle that much. I just,
by the way, I don't think hul Cogan, which was
an awesome moment at the Republican Convention, really moved the
needle that much. Now there's there's enthusiasm around the moment, right,
like Bruce Springsteen's out there, and and and so is
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that a cool thing?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it's cool. Right, It's cool that the.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Boss would show up in Georgia for you, beyond say
showing up going let's kill more babies in Houston. I
don't know if that's the messaging you went in the
last couple of days of a campaign, but okay, like sure,
do your thing, right. This is why I see Ann
said earlier that Harris hadn't necessarily moved the needle against Trump.
This is the reason why I Dug Collins said that
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Kamala turned to fear campaign because she's got nothing to
actually run on.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Take a listen to this from Fox.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Donald Trump is running to be an American tyrant.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
By the way, that's the Boss saying that Donald Trump
is running to be an actual tyro Let's.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Back came up. I like, Bruce, I like the boss
all right, like.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This guy like and it's clear that Comle's campaign is like, hey,
we're calling him hitler right now. If you can go
out there on stage before you sing an American song,
the boss, can you call him a tyrant real quick
and the audience will love it?
Speaker 10 (13:49):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Oh yea, yeah, I got you, no problem.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Donald Trump's Hitler Like like, I just okay, So am
I like? Oh no, like, oh no, the Boss just
called Donald Trump tyrant. Like to me, I'm if I'm Trump,
I'm like sweet, Donald.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
Trump is running to be an American tyrant. He does
not understand this country, it's history, or what it means
to be deeply American.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Harris was also joined by let's just pause there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, he doesn't understand what it means to be deeply American.
I would love to ask the Boss this question, right,
what does it mean to be deeply American? Drugs and
alcohol and topless women at a concert? Is that deeply American?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Like? I know what American is? Okay, America.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm the boss, Like, like, I'm trying to figure out
what it is that the Boss understands about America that
I don't understand about America.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Like, tell me what that is. I want to know
what is that?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Please let me know. I want to know. Tell me
what I'm missing here? He's deeply American? You know America?
I hate I understand America. And then after the Boss,
guess who else comes out on stage on Thursday night
in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Barack Obama former.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
President Barack Obama at the rally, slamming Trump and doubling
down on her economic policies.
Speaker 11 (15:10):
It's over the last years, and in particularly the last
eight years, Donald Trump has become more.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Confused, more unstable, and more angry. Yeah, by the way,
you know, it's funny. She says that Donald Trump's become
more confused and more angry. Do you notice that?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I actually think Donald Trump is less angry now than
he was when he ran in sixteen. Like in sixteen,
the guy was pretty hacked off. He was yelling at everybody.
I mean he was. He was intense in sixteen. I
think now he's gotten more used to the politics of politics.
In sixteen, when people were attacking mem He's like, I'm
gonna knock you out. I'm king o everybody, Like I'm
just walking around. I'm just I'm just swinging for the
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fences every single day, Like that's what he did in sixteen.
I think that's one of the reasons why I got
in trouble in twenty twenty, is because he was swinging
for the fences. I think of anything Donald Trump's mellowed
in the last four years, go back and listen to
him in sixteen compared to now in twenty twenty four,
eight years later, he's not the same guy. He's more chill.
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I also think being shot either makes you more angry
or less angry. And I think it's like, Okay, God
saved me, I'm gonna run this campaign and I'm going
to focus in. I think he's more of a disciplined
candidate now than he's ever been.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He was not disciplined in twenty twenty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
He was erratic and and when didn't stay focused on
the issues, and he should have stayed focused on the issues,
and he wanted to defend. He took the bait on everything.
So she now comes out she's like, you know, I
get it. She's into the fear campaign, right because she's
you know, he's an evil, fearful person.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And Bruce Springsteen, you know he's a tyrant.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now I'm gonna play some songs for you, like I
would actually listen to this crap and then listen to
songs like that's just me because I'm like, I don't
care what he says, Like got used to be like,
I'm not going to see them. I remember the first
time I saw a politician, or I say, ysician attack
a politician. Two thousand and uh probably two thousand and three,
Pearl Jam played in Birmingham, Alabama, and Eddie Vedder was
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on stage, and I love Pearl Jam. We went, we
drove from Oxford, Misissippi, from Ole, miss to Birmingham on
a weeknight to see Pearl Jam play outside it was awesome,
and he brought a blow up doll of George Bush
forty three on stage and then like drop kicked him,
like dropped it and then kicked him right, like like
beating up the sitting president. Units it's in America, and
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I was like, all right, here's a middle finger for you.
And I'm like, I'm not going to another concert. As
I've matured in my my elder statesman years of all
of forty three, I'm now like I don't give a
crap what you think. Just shut up and seeing like
to me, I'm like it makes me laugh, Like if
Bruce Springstreet's talking politics, I'm like, shut up and sing
like I like, you have no influence over my life,
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like at all, shut up and seeing you puppet like
I'm sorry, like just be the parrot I paid for
a ticket to be.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't even get offended. Like some people get really mad.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now they're like when Taylor Swift, like when she talks,
I'm like, dude, the chick literally all of her songs
about her bad choices in life with dudes, And now
she's like, I know Joe Biden's the guy. Nevermind, I
know Kama Harris is the woman and Donald Trump is
evil and I'm like, well, every dude you've ever picked
the wrong dude in your life, you've written a song about,
Like I'm not taking advice to you politically, like shut
up and sing you pair it, like go up there
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and do what you're supposed to do, Like like I
they have.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Zero influence over my life.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But when Kama was up there on stage and she's
like he's become more on hings like that, I don't
even think the American people really believe that, because I
think they're seeing a calmer Donald Trump, a guy that
the left is calling hitler and then wondering why people
are trying to kill him. Because when you call somebody hitler,
after two people try to kill him, possibly a third,
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there's one thing that's pretty darn clear. Now you're dog
whistling for a crazy to go take him out. And
I do believe that level of unhingedness, that level of
radicalness is not going to be like flipped on its
head in a moment because you've got Taylor Swift or Beyonce,
while by the way, you're talking about exterminating babies. The
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part about Beyonce that I think people don't understand is
Beyonce and her in Houston is number one, You're going
to a state where you're not gonna win in Texas,
so you're wasting a day now, they believe it's worth it.
And the reason why they believe it's worth it is
because they're going to say, hey, you don't want to
live in a place like Texas, where by the way,
I think it's like a thousand people are moving every
twenty four hours. The American people are disagreeing with you.
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I mentioned a moment ago going to Houston and doing
a campaign rally in Texas. Let's talk about that fear.
Why you pick Texas if you know you're not gonna
win Texas. She believes that she can do this event
and national media is going to cover it. Beyonces there
and they're like, let us kill babies.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
We want to have it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We want to have sex all the time and get pregnant,
and then we believe that we should just be able
to the baby's on demand whenever. And they're gonna say
Texas is evil and they have these evil laws where
women are dying even though there's no evidence of this
in alleyways, like they've been saying this stuff lately, that
like women are bleeding out in the hospital parking lots
because doctors won't touch them because they're fraid they're gonna
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go to jail. There's no there's no indication or stories
this happening because but who cares, right, you don't need
to fact check it, like you don't need to fact
check it. It's it like, no, we'll just go with that.
That's what the media like. Yeah, that's a great story.
How barbaric, how awful Texas socks? How many people from Texas?
And by the way, you know the number one state
where people are moving from to go to Texas, California,
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where Kamala Harris is from, where Nancy Pelosi is from.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like this is where people are leaving.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
They're leaving these radical states that are close to socialism,
where crime is out of control, where homelessness is out
of control, where legal immigration is out of control.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And where are they going.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They're going to places where there's freedom, where tax are
out of control, and they're coming to Texas.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And meanwhile, all right, let's have a rally.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Like I don't I still don't understand the Kamala Harris
campaign unless they're so desperate for a headline with Beyonce
that Beyonce was like, Hey, look, I'm not all leave
my house to come over and see you. But I
ain't flying to see you. You're ables Kamala like, and
that may be it. It may be that simple that
that Beyonce's like, I ain't fine nowhere to hang out
with you, like Bruce preeeseems like Ali's come to Georgia.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Where does Bruce live? I don't even know, but I'm
assuming New Jersey, Okay. So so he's like, yeah, I'll
fly down on my PJA right and kill the environment
PJ private jet. And then, like Beyonce might be like
a diva. There's a there's a rumor she's a diva,
and you might be like, all right, like if we
come to you, will you come on stage with me?
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And then I guess, all right, here's a plan. I'm
gonna come to Texas. I'm not gonna win. I'm gonna
spend a day in Texas with you, Beyonce, And I
think you're gonna get the African American voters to be
excited about me, and I need you to do that,
just like you know Oprah. Okay, And then we're gonna
tell every woman that they deserve the right to kill
their baby and even at the last second of it,
and it's not a baby, and and and even if
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it's nine months, just kill it. And that's that's like
women power and beyond, Like hell yeah, let's do some
of that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Let's lay now and that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'll get out of bed for I'll get my I'll
get my glam on for that. If that's what you're
running on in the last less than two weeks of
a campaign, I like my chances on election day because
you're not talking about the economy. You're fear mongering. And
the closing argument from the Harris campaign right now, unless
they pivot, is Bruce Springsteen likes me, Beyonce likes me,
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with Taylor Swift likes me. And oh, by the way,
the other guys want to kill babies a lot. Oh
by the way, they want to force you to not
kill your baby.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Let me rephrase that. Let me let me just rephrase it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They want to force you to not kill your baby,
and we want to kill your baby. So now I'm kama,
I'm Bruce Springsteen. He'll impregnant you and then we want
to boart you. Like it's this is a circular argument.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You see it every day. She got a plan to
make your life better.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
She's going to go out for corporations that unfairly jack
up prices.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
She don't make it easier to build and buy a home.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Harris will head back to Michigan on Saturday for a
campaign event with Michelle Obama. Maria, all right, Brooke, thank you, Brookes.
Sigman Doug Collins, is that a plan going after corporate America?
Obama says, she's got a plan to make your life
better by going after corporate America. I don't know if
that's a plan to get the economy back to where.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We want it.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
No, but been coming from President Obama wasn't a plan either,
and I think that's you know, you look at this,
and so he's very used to non plans, and when
you look at this, there is no plan there. And
when you attack corporations, you attack, you're playing to the
base fear. The campaign on the hair side now has
become a fear campaign. It's a fear that Donald Trump
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is bad. It's a fear that big government, big corporations
are out to get you while big government is here
to help you. That's become the transition here because she
has nothing to run on. Notice, she never, you know,
goes into issues of plans because she doesn't have them.
And Barack Obama, I mean to say that you're doubling
down on a policy. You've got to have a policy
first to double down.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
All He's right, that CON's good friend of mine, former congressman.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He's great, He's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Kamaa turned a fear campaign because she's got nothing to
run on, and by the way she is, he'scried.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Obama is very used to non plans.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We gonna give you some hope, and then you're gonna
vote for me because I'm black, and that's gonna give
you some change because I'm black, And that'll give you
a hope because.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm black, and we're gonna have to change because.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I'm back, because I'm a hope, because I gave you
a hope because I'm back.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So vote for me, hope and change it work.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
By the way, then I also think, by the way,
Barack Obama is a way better salesperson than Kamala Harris, like,
way better. And we gave you a guy on stage
to day the boss drums a fascists. Yeah, I just
I'm not trying to be overly confident, but I do
feel like we're on fairly good footing right now because
(25:11):
the trend is going in the right direction. Kevin o' O'Leary,
you know him as mister wonderful from Shark Tank. He
went on CNN and obliterated the idiots at CNN on
the corporate tax rate that Kamala Harris is explaining, saying
it's good for America, that it's good for America to
(25:31):
go to twenty eight percent, and he explains as a
business owner what this will do to this country if
we go down this road.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Listen, I mean, we were.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Just discussing this, and I think it's it's worth being
just very clear about it. We had a whole discussion
last time you were on the show about you know, okay,
if we want to talk about policies, what are the policies? Right?
When you ask Donalds from that, he doesn't really have
an answer. But we want to hear the fifteen point
plan from a'st pick one.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Let's pick one.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
No, no, no no. Before you jump in here, why just
to be clear, you can't just pick one right like
I'm saying here, I'm saying to you, how many do
you want to Pickabla Harris.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm just saying if we're going to debate policy. Let's
pick one area and move on.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Let's wait.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
The point is that he doesn't actually specify what is Please.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Give me a moment. I think we can focus on
one thing. Everybody can agree. Corporate tax rates are important
in the competitiveness of America.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yes, no, yes, no, yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
It doesn't matter what our tax rates are, it's where
they sit in the G twenty. We want to be
in the middle or near the top. And competitiveness twenty
one percent, which is where we are sort of now,
is very competitive. We're in the upper quartile. If we
go to twenty eight we go to the bottom quartile.
Now does anybody care about that as a policy statement?
(26:53):
Has Harris ever explained why it's good to go to
twenty eight percent?
Speaker 10 (26:57):
Believe?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Just for someone if I'm a voter out in the
Midwest trying to make ends meet you, Just like.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
When did when did Donald Trump ever say.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
That he's telling you he's not racing?
Speaker 11 (27:10):
Yeah, I guess that, But when did he? But when
did he articulate what.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
You just.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
He already said that he was going to try and
keep his tax policy in place, trying to even reduce
the fifteen percent.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
I think.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
This is like one of the least popular policies Donald.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
If you want to talk about that policy, Kamala Harris
talks about how big corporation should be paying their fair
share that resonates more.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Than eighty eight percent. All your jobs at this table
come from the eighty eight percent job creation is in
the private sector.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
When when America, by the way, I love how Kevin does,
it's like talk amongst yourselves. After he makes his point,
like you have to be competitive with the rest of
the world. You go to twenty eight percent and the
G and the G twenty you're at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You not competitive. People will do business there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
International business won't come, international businesses won't expand people won't
buy goods and services.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You will destroy the economy.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And then he's like, you guys don't understand economics, like
it's six against one. By the way, this is what
I did for seven years in hell at CNN, like
this is what it's like. This is a guy that
everyone's trying to scream and yell over and they're like, well,
what you said is really smart. Basically is what their
defactive point was. But Donald Trump's ever said that he's like,
yes he has. They're like no, no, no, he's never
said it like you did.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
So they're like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Admitting, all right, what you said is brilliant, but Donald
Trump never said it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And he's like, that's what he's proposing, you idiots.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And then and then at the end he's like, I'm
not like, I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
There are two policies here.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
There is I'm gonna take every dime I can get
from anybody in this country and corporations, because there I
do believe there's a fundamental belief by by socialists that
corporations are evil.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Why because they threaten their power.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And if you can kneecap corporations, you can turn it
into Russia where the government owns everything communism, Remember you
own nothing. The private sector doesn't exist. The government is
the industry. The government is the leader in every industry.
The government does everything. And look how bad the government
sucks at everything they do. Now, we can't even give
kids to read writer do arithmetic with trillions of dollars
(29:13):
spent on public education, did you hear me? We can't
even keep you safe in this country. In major cities
where liberals are in charge, they can't even keep you safe.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But they want to take over now the companies.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And so if you do a corporate tax rate and
you say they're the evil guys, and you shut down
all the corporations, and you have more power.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
This is about power.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And by the way, for a government to have power
over you, do they need the population to be powerful
or weak.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
They need it to be weak.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
They need the majority of people to say I have nothing.
I need you to feed me, I need you to
clothe me, I need you to house me. I need
you to educate me, aka and doctrinate me. Look at
countries where there are socialist, Marxist and communists. The people
have no guns. The people are too weak to send
up to the peace people, to the government. I should say,
(30:03):
can you have a gun in Russia?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You have a good in Venezuela, no. Can you have
a gut in Cuba? No?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
They have massive gun control. What happened in Germany they
confiscate all the guns. No one could stop the extermination
of all the people and is all the Jews when
you the only thing that is saving us right now
is our constitution, which democrats don't like, our Supreme Court,
which they say they want to pack and the fact
that we don't have a corporate tax rate right now
(30:29):
at twenty eight percent.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Listen the last thing O'Leary says.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Americans are looking at huge corporations who are making money
hand over fist. While all of the prices.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
At the pro don't like this, they're what they are
wanting to talk about.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
They are going to be looking at what Harris is saying,
and what and what and what and if Harris is saying,
I want these corporations to pay their fair share, to
not get out of paying the zero reason.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
That you want to make America the bottom quartelle competition,
I love this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
He's just saying.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So you're saying you hate corporations making money, which employed
the majority of people in this country, and you hate
them making money, the people working in corporations, and so
therefore you want to take that away because you hate
people being successful. That is exactly what the policy of
Kamala Harris is. Swallowell was asked a question about the
economy with just eleven days left to go.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Listen to what he said, Okay.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
You need in your life. So she's giving a speech
on Tuesday on the Ellipse clearly to mark the location
where Donald Trump delivered that speech on January sixth, again
focused on the threat of democracy and whatnot. Do you
think that people, the voters, basically the undecided voters, see
(31:55):
that as something that affects their daily lives more or
less than than healthcare.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
Undecided voters want in America that has free market capitalism,
not free for all capitalism. They want a rule of
law where all of us are treated the same, not
one set of rules for a president who thinks that
he's above the law and another set of rules for
those who are deemed his enemy. They want a land
(32:22):
where women have reproductive rights. That's why she's going to
Houston today to really animate that issue. So they're concerned
about all of these issues. And yes, of course they
want to know that if they work hard, they can
buy their first home, which is why Kamala Harris has
a twenty five thousand dollars down payment plan for first
time home buyers. These are all factors and I think
(32:42):
in these closing days she's hitting.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
On all of them all right.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
Collegeman Eric Swall, will appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I love that no follow up question. Thank you for
the propagannaswer.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you for coming on, Thank you for your service
to the clandestine services of began Feng Fang.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know the Chinese spy that was spy on you while.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You're naked and you thought she actually liked you, Like, dude,
what an amateur? How can you not tell you're like
hooking up with a Chinese spy? Did you not think, like, hey,
maybe I'm not that good looking, Like, dude, look like this.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I wish you guys could see the shirt.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Look at what I'm gonna show my producer, Like that's
that's not a dude that gets a fang thing. Like,
that's just not a dude that gets a fang thing.
Like it's just like, I'm sorry, And if you ever
saw a picture fang thing, fang thing was hot hot, Okay,
she was a hot hot fang thing.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And I'm like, he's got he's like got no undershirt on.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
He's got a little bit like the the low v
neck thing going on, like with a green shirt in
a green like back wall apartment. And that's who you
got on CNN defending Kamala Harris this morning, Like, thank you,
thank you forgiving me some of that guy like, that's
just amazing. Days away from the election, Folks, the closing
(33:52):
arguments right now or Donald Trump's is hitler, He's a fascist.
I'm not just voting for Donald Trump. Want to be
clear about this. I'm voting for the freedoms that he's
talking about. I'm voting for the dreams that he's talking about.
I'm voting for American independence on energy. I'm voting for
stronger borders. I'm voting for law and order. I'm voting
to end these wars, and I'm also voting for life.
(34:14):
I'm not voting to kill babies. The other side is
the opposite of this is a clear line in the sand.
I've never seen one more clear on policies. Choose wisely.
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Speaker 2 (34:41):
Please put this out there in the world tag us.
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There is a trend that is starting, and it is
a trend that is going back to something that I've said.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
For a long time. It's the economy.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Stupid Nobel Laureate's coming out back in Kamala Harris, the
media coming out back in Kamala Harris. But voters seem
to be very clear about something. They trust Donald Trump
to fix, the economy. Elitas are out there also trying
to gaslight the country, saying that only Harris can save
(00:37):
us from the nightmare, which is Donald Trump. The problem
is this, many Americans believe that the only person that
can save us from the inflation nightmare that Americans are
facing is a guy by the name of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That is the interesting part of this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Donald Trump is also so just hammering Harris on all
text issues, including tariffs. Kamala Harris's message on tariffs' is
being well, strongly rejected by American voters. There are certain
things that happen in debates which you don't think at
(01:19):
the moment are a big deal, and then they.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Turn into massive deals. What I mean by that is this.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
In her CNN town hall on Wednesday, Harris once again
misleadingly called Trump's tariffs proposals a quote national sales tax
of at least twenty percent on everyday goods and necessities,
that's their exact quote, and claim that they would raise
costs for American families. She couldn't even bring herself to
(01:46):
use the word tariff, by the way, when she was
on TV on CNN. The problem is the American people
don't believe her. The number she used of twenty percent
was so high that there has been a large number
of people that have responded with like significant backlash, going
I don't buy it, I don't believe you. The American
(02:07):
people apparently agree with Trump that the word tariff is
actually not a bad word, but the most beautiful word
in this presidential election. CNBC All American Economists survey released
on Thursday showed that fifty four percent of Americans now
say they trust Trump. That's fifty four percent of Americans,
(02:29):
so they trust Trump to do a better job on
tariff's and imports in the economy in general. Just thirty
two percent say they trust Kamala Harris, meaning they believe
that she's lying.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Now that's one poll.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
When one poll comes out, I look for another poll
to see if there is a real trend. Well, sure enough,
a Reuter's poll came out and found that fifty six
percent of voters support Donald Trump's tear proposal, and then
an ABC News poll release last week found that fifty
seven percent of voters support raising tariffs, including nineteen percent
(03:05):
who strongly support the view. As Donald Trump has said
it's time for us to put tariffs and to attack
those that are hurting America like China, they're saying, yes,
we like the idea. Now, what's interesting about this is
that CNN after their debate with their headline underneath it
(03:28):
right eleven days out Harris and Georgia, Trump and Nevada
and Arizona, and they're You're giving their you know, big commentary.
One of the things that they said was this about
the tariffs. Take a listen as they even are in
shock that the American people are going against Harris.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, we about your chime and a lot of this stuff. Hell,
I've been discussing this for over a year now on
this network. The needle hasn't necessarily moved against a former president.
I'm just speaking as a strategist here. There's a reason
this race is tied. Connect Now, perhaps some people may
dismiss it. Perhaps there are other priorities that people are
more concerned about. But clearly that message alone isn't resonating
(04:08):
with enough voters to give Vice President Harris a comfortable lead.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In this race. Web say I have this in the bag,
but she doesn't for a reason.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
See, it's not that message alone.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
This isn't the only thing that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
She's talking about.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
One of the things that I thought.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Was so good what she is talking about, I will
tell you.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And you're not listening very well.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
Trump last night.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Which that was mister wonderful by the way, from Charta,
and he's like, what is she talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm trying to figure out what is she talking about? Here?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm listening and you could hear Maria Cardenter there. She's
like trying to defend the indefensible. You hear the other person.
Harris hasn't necessarily moved the needle against Donald Trump. And
by the way, you should be able to move the
needle when you walk into friendly environments day after day
after day. Harris's economic proposals, many believe are going to
(04:55):
go are going to kill America's economy. Fox Business Network
had a conversation about Harris's plan to quote go after corporations.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That is what she said she wants to do.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now her proposals to be clear, and this is where
Americans are like, I don't know if I like. This
would be a massive increase of the corporate tax rate
to twenty eight percent, a forty four point six percent
capital gains tax on any of your investments every year. Okay,
so you put up all the risk with your investments.
The government doesn't lose money with you. Right, you put
(05:29):
money into retirement account for a one K, you have
capital gains. So she wants to say, if you make money,
I take forty four percent of it. So everybody in
America that has a retirement account, everybody in America has
capital gains, right, meaning that you have capital. So I'm
going to use a round number. Let's say you have
one hundred thousand dollars invested. She believes if that number
goes to one hundred and ten thousand in a year,
(05:51):
you should be tax meaning they get forty four zero
point six percent of that ten thousand dollars you just made.
Do you have any idea what that does to your future?
It destroys you. That's exactly what Kamala Harris is trying
to do.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She also has not just and that's capitol games.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, so you understand capital games is different than unrealized games.
So unrealized games she wants to tax at twenty five percent.
Unrealized games are when you have a stock that you purchased,
all right, and you haven't sold the stock. So let's
say I buy a share of Walmart and Walmart goes
from fifty dollars to sixty three dollars. Let's say I
(06:29):
buy a stock in a company and they come out
with some new life saving drug, cancer drug, and that
stock doubles or triples. She wants twenty five percent of
the increase in that stock price since you bought it
every year, year over year over year over year.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Now you didn't sell the stock.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Okay, maybe there's a big bump and that thing goes up,
but you don't want to sell the stock, so it's
got to come down. You think it's going to level out.
Maybe you're playing the long game. Stocks. What happens? They
go up and down all the time, every day, right,
every day, they go up and up and down, up
and down.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well, if you at the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
She says, take a snap shot and any stock that
you've got more money in than you did last year,
I want twenty five percent of it. Well, if that
stock goes down the next day, she didn't care.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is she going to cover?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Help you cover the losses at twenty five percent? No,
So this is another extreme taxation of the American people.
She also wants communist price controls, price controls on groceries,
price controls on virtually, uh everything that she says she
believes the price has gotten too high. She then says, oh,
(07:34):
and I want an up to a six thousand dollar
child tax credit. Well, you can have the six thousand dollars.
I got three kids. By the way, if you're gonna
if you're going to tax, I don't care about the
six thousand dollars tax credit. If you're taking twenty five
percent or twenty eight percent of my corporate taxes if
I'm a corporation, forty four point six percent capital gains tax,
twenty five percent tax on unrealized gains, Like you just
(07:57):
sucked all the money out of my life, all of
the all of my hard work every year just disappears.
I invest, I pay taxes before I invest in the
money that I'm investing, and bam, twenty five percent tax
and I realized gains Like this is insane. Take a
listen to this from Fox and how they described it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
No.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I think Brooke made a really good point, Cheryl by saying, look,
we've all lived through both administrations. We've lived through a
Trump administration and we've lived through a Kamala Harrison administration.
It's only fair to ask yourself, are you better off
today than you were four years ago? I would say
the answer increasingly is no.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Well you and I went.
Speaker 9 (08:34):
Through those numbers earlier this week, Maria. When it came
to the economics under the Trump administration versus the economics
under the Biden Harris administration, and when it came to inflation,
when it came to immigration, but when it also came
to wages, the differences were startling. And as far as
going after these corporations, which Democrats always say this, this
(08:56):
is always their talking point, those evil corporations, you know,
Bernie Anders last weekend on Sunday Morning Futures. The thing is,
those corporations employ millions of Americans. Those corporations provide for
one ks and healthcare to millions of Americans. So if
her plan is to go after corporations, you're going to
(09:19):
be killing jobs, You're going to be hurting people's finances.
And we've seen from poll after poll that as right on,
right on Q forty two percent feel that they're better
off financially under President Trump. Those are the numbers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Those are the numbers. I love how they describe it.
These are the numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You want to living in your communism, You want to
go to work every day and the majority of your
money goes to the federal government. You want to invest
in a retirement account, and then every time you have
unrealized gains on a stock, you got to write a
check to the government.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That is the Kamala Harris plan.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's not like we're guessing she's telling you they're going
to take your money.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Folks, are going to take your money.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Kama Harris, by the way, is obsessed with trying to
figure out a way to connect with the voters.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
In the last days, her town hall didn't work.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So now she's moving back to the issue, which she
thinks is I guess the whole ballgame for her, and
that's the issue of abortion.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
She's going to Texas. So doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I understand the logic, but it still doesn't make sense
to me, and I'm going to explain it. So she's losing. Okay,
she knows she's losing. We're starting to see these trends.
It's starting to feel like that the American people are like, yeah,
we don't like her, and she's now turned to fear right,
(10:42):
he's a fascist, right, don't jump to fascists. In the
last twenty four hours, he's hit where anybody out there
that wants to be inspired to go kill him? Go
kill him, Please help Americans out. That's the last minute effort.
She was in Georgia. She had the boss Bruce Springsteen
on stage, which, by the way, Democrats just have better
musicians and Republicans.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'm good with it. I understand it. You can't win
it everything.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
In life, right, So if you and and and let's
be honest, a lot of musicians are a weird, little
fighty little you know, crazy. They are like a lot
of drugs, a lot of weed, a lot of alcohol. Okay, Like,
so if the weed people and the drug people and
the alcohol people.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Right are on your team, like, it's not really adult.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So I don't know how many be like Damn, I
saw Bruce Springsteen up there on stage of Kamala, and
I'm gonna vote for now because of Bruce Springs and
the Boss. Like, I just don't think that's a normal
conversation that's taking place. And Democrats always go back to
celebrities when they're hurting. Beyonce. Guess who's gonna be with Kamala.
Beyonce comes out, Beyonce's gonna appear with Kamala. And Houston, Texas,
(11:43):
you know, Beyonce's sometown. I don't know if there's a
lot of people like man Beyonce. Taylor Swift is another
great example of this, right. Taylor Swift is like, you know,
Republicans are Satan and we've held if we had this
fight in our house, Okay. So like I'm one of
those where I don't expect everybody around me to believe
(12:04):
what I believe. I'm good with it, right, Like my
own mom disagrees with me on things. So my wife
has been twice to a Taylor Swift concert, not once,
but twice. My producer is is judging right now, you
can't I judge too, And I'm like look, it's your decision.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't care. Like, if that's what you want to do,
you like like do it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But but when she came out, she's like, I'm supporting Kama,
remember that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And then like before that, she's like supporting Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I just don't think that that really moves the needle
that much. I think Bruce Springsteen being on stage, I
don't think that moves the needle that much. I just,
by the way, I don't think hul Cogan, which was
an awesome moment at the Republican Convention, really moved the
needle that much. Now there's there's enthusiasm around the moment, right,
like Bruce Springsteen's out there, and and and so is
(12:54):
that a cool thing?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, it's cool. Right, It's cool that the.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Boss would show up in Georgia for you, beyond say
showing up going let's kill more babies in Houston. I
don't know if that's the messaging you went in the
last couple of days of a campaign, but okay, like sure,
do your thing, right. This is why I see Ann
said earlier that Harris hadn't necessarily moved the needle against Trump.
This is the reason why I Dug Collins said that
(13:18):
Kamala turned to fear campaign because she's got nothing to
actually run on.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Take a listen to this from Fox.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Donald Trump is running to be an American tyrant.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
By the way, that's the Boss saying that Donald Trump
is running to be an actual tyro Let's.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Back came up. I like, Bruce, I like the boss
all right, like.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This guy like and it's clear that Comle's campaign is like, hey,
we're calling him hitler right now. If you can go
out there on stage before you sing an American song,
the boss, can you call him a tyrant real quick
and the audience will love it?
Speaker 10 (13:49):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Oh yea, yeah, I got you, no problem.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Donald Trump's Hitler Like like, I just okay, So am
I like? Oh no, like, oh no, the Boss just
called Donald Trump tyrant. Like to me, I'm if I'm Trump,
I'm like sweet, Donald.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
Trump is running to be an American tyrant. He does
not understand this country, it's history, or what it means
to be deeply American.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Harris was also joined by let's just pause there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, he doesn't understand what it means to be deeply American.
I would love to ask the Boss this question, right,
what does it mean to be deeply American? Drugs and
alcohol and topless women at a concert? Is that deeply American?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Like? I know what American is? Okay, America.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I'm the boss, Like, like, I'm trying to figure out
what it is that the Boss understands about America that
I don't understand about America.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Like, tell me what that is. I want to know
what is that?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Please let me know. I want to know. Tell me
what I'm missing here? He's deeply American? You know America?
I hate I understand America. And then after the Boss,
guess who else comes out on stage on Thursday night
in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Barack Obama former.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
President Barack Obama at the rally, slamming Trump and doubling
down on her economic policies.
Speaker 11 (15:10):
It's over the last years, and in particularly the last
eight years, Donald Trump has become more.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Confused, more unstable, and more angry. Yeah, by the way,
you know, it's funny. She says that Donald Trump's become
more confused and more angry. Do you notice that?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I actually think Donald Trump is less angry now than
he was when he ran in sixteen. Like in sixteen,
the guy was pretty hacked off. He was yelling at everybody.
I mean he was. He was intense in sixteen. I
think now he's gotten more used to the politics of politics.
In sixteen, when people were attacking mem He's like, I'm
gonna knock you out. I'm king o everybody, Like I'm
just walking around. I'm just I'm just swinging for the
(15:51):
fences every single day, Like that's what he did in sixteen.
I think that's one of the reasons why I got
in trouble in twenty twenty, is because he was swinging
for the fences. I think of anything Donald Trump's mellowed
in the last four years, go back and listen to
him in sixteen compared to now in twenty twenty four,
eight years later, he's not the same guy. He's more chill.
(16:13):
I also think being shot either makes you more angry
or less angry. And I think it's like, Okay, God
saved me, I'm gonna run this campaign and I'm going
to focus in. I think he's more of a disciplined
candidate now than he's ever been.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He was not disciplined in twenty twenty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
He was erratic and and when didn't stay focused on
the issues, and he should have stayed focused on the issues,
and he wanted to defend. He took the bait on everything.
So she now comes out she's like, you know, I
get it. She's into the fear campaign, right because she's
you know, he's an evil, fearful person.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And Bruce Springsteen, you know he's a tyrant.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now I'm gonna play some songs for you, like I
would actually listen to this crap and then listen to
songs like that's just me because I'm like, I don't
care what he says, Like got used to be like,
I'm not going to see them. I remember the first
time I saw a politician, or I say, ysician attack
a politician. Two thousand and uh probably two thousand and three,
Pearl Jam played in Birmingham, Alabama, and Eddie Vedder was
(17:09):
on stage, and I love Pearl Jam. We went, we
drove from Oxford, Misissippi, from Ole, miss to Birmingham on
a weeknight to see Pearl Jam play outside it was awesome,
and he brought a blow up doll of George Bush
forty three on stage and then like drop kicked him,
like dropped it and then kicked him right, like like
beating up the sitting president. Units it's in America, and
(17:32):
I was like, all right, here's a middle finger for you.
And I'm like, I'm not going to another concert. As
I've matured in my my elder statesman years of all
of forty three, I'm now like I don't give a
crap what you think. Just shut up and seeing like
to me, I'm like it makes me laugh, Like if
Bruce Springstreet's talking politics, I'm like, shut up and sing
like I like, you have no influence over my life,
(17:54):
like at all, shut up and seeing you puppet like
I'm sorry, like just be the parrot I paid for
a ticket to be.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't even get offended. Like some people get really mad.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now they're like when Taylor Swift, like when she talks,
I'm like, dude, the chick literally all of her songs
about her bad choices in life with dudes, And now
she's like, I know Joe Biden's the guy. Nevermind, I
know Kama Harris is the woman and Donald Trump is
evil and I'm like, well, every dude you've ever picked
the wrong dude in your life, you've written a song about,
Like I'm not taking advice to you politically, like shut
up and sing you pair it, like go up there
(18:23):
and do what you're supposed to do, Like like I
they have.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Zero influence over my life.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But when Kama was up there on stage and she's
like he's become more on hings like that, I don't
even think the American people really believe that, because I
think they're seeing a calmer Donald Trump, a guy that
the left is calling hitler and then wondering why people
are trying to kill him. Because when you call somebody hitler,
after two people try to kill him, possibly a third,
(18:50):
there's one thing that's pretty darn clear. Now you're dog
whistling for a crazy to go take him out. And
I do believe that level of unhingedness, that level of
radicalness is not going to be like flipped on its
head in a moment because you've got Taylor Swift or Beyonce,
while by the way, you're talking about exterminating babies. The
(19:12):
part about Beyonce that I think people don't understand is
Beyonce and her in Houston is number one, You're going
to a state where you're not gonna win in Texas,
so you're wasting a day now, they believe it's worth it.
And the reason why they believe it's worth it is
because they're going to say, hey, you don't want to
live in a place like Texas, where by the way,
I think it's like a thousand people are moving every
twenty four hours. The American people are disagreeing with you.
(19:36):
I mentioned a moment ago going to Houston and doing
a campaign rally in Texas. Let's talk about that fear.
Why you pick Texas if you know you're not gonna
win Texas. She believes that she can do this event
and national media is going to cover it. Beyonces there
and they're like, let us kill babies.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
We want to have it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
We want to have sex all the time and get pregnant,
and then we believe that we should just be able
to the baby's on demand whenever. And they're gonna say
Texas is evil and they have these evil laws where
women are dying even though there's no evidence of this
in alleyways, like they've been saying this stuff lately, that
like women are bleeding out in the hospital parking lots
because doctors won't touch them because they're fraid they're gonna
(20:16):
go to jail. There's no there's no indication or stories
this happening because but who cares, right, you don't need
to fact check it, like you don't need to fact
check it. It's it like, no, we'll just go with that.
That's what the media like. Yeah, that's a great story.
How barbaric, how awful Texas socks? How many people from Texas?
And by the way, you know the number one state
where people are moving from to go to Texas, California,
(20:40):
where Kamala Harris is from, where Nancy Pelosi is from.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like this is where people are leaving.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
They're leaving these radical states that are close to socialism,
where crime is out of control, where homelessness is out
of control, where legal immigration is out of control.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And where are they going.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
They're going to places where there's freedom, where tax are
out of control, and they're coming to Texas.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And meanwhile, all right, let's have a rally.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Like I don't I still don't understand the Kamala Harris
campaign unless they're so desperate for a headline with Beyonce
that Beyonce was like, Hey, look, I'm not all leave
my house to come over and see you. But I
ain't flying to see you. You're ables Kamala like, and
that may be it. It may be that simple that
that Beyonce's like, I ain't fine nowhere to hang out
with you, like Bruce preeeseems like Ali's come to Georgia.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Where does Bruce live? I don't even know, but I'm
assuming New Jersey, Okay. So so he's like, yeah, I'll
fly down on my PJA right and kill the environment
PJ private jet. And then, like Beyonce might be like
a diva. There's a there's a rumor she's a diva,
and you might be like, all right, like if we
come to you, will you come on stage with me?
(21:47):
And then I guess, all right, here's a plan. I'm
gonna come to Texas. I'm not gonna win. I'm gonna
spend a day in Texas with you, Beyonce, And I
think you're gonna get the African American voters to be
excited about me, and I need you to do that,
just like you know Oprah. Okay, And then we're gonna
tell every woman that they deserve the right to kill
their baby and even at the last second of it,
and it's not a baby, and and and even if
(22:10):
it's nine months, just kill it. And that's that's like
women power and beyond, Like hell yeah, let's do some
of that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Let's lay now and that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'll get out of bed for I'll get my I'll
get my glam on for that. If that's what you're
running on in the last less than two weeks of
a campaign, I like my chances on election day because
you're not talking about the economy. You're fear mongering. And
the closing argument from the Harris campaign right now, unless
they pivot, is Bruce Springsteen likes me, Beyonce likes me,
(22:40):
with Taylor Swift likes me. And oh, by the way,
the other guys want to kill babies a lot. Oh
by the way, they want to force you to not
kill your baby.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Let me rephrase that. Let me let me just rephrase it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They want to force you to not kill your baby,
and we want to kill your baby. So now I'm kama,
I'm Bruce Springsteen. He'll impregnant you and then we want
to boart you. Like it's this is a circular argument.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You see it every day. She got a plan to
make your life better.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
She's going to go out for corporations that unfairly jack
up prices.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
She don't make it easier to build and buy a home.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Harris will head back to Michigan on Saturday for a
campaign event with Michelle Obama. Maria, all right, Brooke, thank you, Brookes.
Sigman Doug Collins, is that a plan going after corporate America?
Obama says, she's got a plan to make your life
better by going after corporate America. I don't know if
that's a plan to get the economy back to where.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We want it.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
No, but been coming from President Obama wasn't a plan either,
and I think that's you know, you look at this,
and so he's very used to non plans, and when
you look at this, there is no plan there. And
when you attack corporations, you attack, you're playing to the
base fear. The campaign on the hair side now has
become a fear campaign. It's a fear that Donald Trump
(24:03):
is bad. It's a fear that big government, big corporations
are out to get you while big government is here
to help you. That's become the transition here because she
has nothing to run on. Notice, she never, you know,
goes into issues of plans because she doesn't have them.
And Barack Obama, I mean to say that you're doubling
down on a policy. You've got to have a policy
first to double down.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
All He's right, that CON's good friend of mine, former congressman.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He's great, He's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Kamaa turned a fear campaign because she's got nothing to
run on, and by the way she is, he'scried.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Obama is very used to non plans.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We gonna give you some hope, and then you're gonna
vote for me because I'm black, and that's gonna give
you some change because I'm black, And that'll give you
a hope because.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I'm black, and we're gonna have to change because.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I'm back, because I'm a hope, because I gave you
a hope because I'm back.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So vote for me, hope and change it work.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
By the way, then I also think, by the way,
Barack Obama is a way better salesperson than Kamala Harris, like,
way better. And we gave you a guy on stage
to day the boss drums a fascists. Yeah, I just
I'm not trying to be overly confident, but I do
feel like we're on fairly good footing right now because
(25:11):
the trend is going in the right direction. Kevin o' O'Leary,
you know him as mister wonderful from Shark Tank. He
went on CNN and obliterated the idiots at CNN on
the corporate tax rate that Kamala Harris is explaining, saying
it's good for America, that it's good for America to
(25:31):
go to twenty eight percent, and he explains as a
business owner what this will do to this country if
we go down this road.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Listen, I mean, we were.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Just discussing this, and I think it's it's worth being
just very clear about it. We had a whole discussion
last time you were on the show about you know, okay,
if we want to talk about policies, what are the policies? Right?
When you ask Donalds from that, he doesn't really have
an answer. But we want to hear the fifteen point
plan from a'st pick one.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Let's pick one.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
No, no, no no. Before you jump in here, why just
to be clear, you can't just pick one right like
I'm saying here, I'm saying to you, how many do
you want to Pickabla Harris.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm just saying if we're going to debate policy. Let's
pick one area and move on.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Let's wait.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
The point is that he doesn't actually specify what is Please.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Give me a moment. I think we can focus on
one thing. Everybody can agree. Corporate tax rates are important
in the competitiveness of America.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yes, no, yes, no, yes, okay.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
It doesn't matter what our tax rates are, it's where
they sit in the G twenty. We want to be
in the middle or near the top. And competitiveness twenty
one percent, which is where we are sort of now,
is very competitive. We're in the upper quartile. If we
go to twenty eight we go to the bottom quartile.
Now does anybody care about that as a policy statement?
(26:53):
Has Harris ever explained why it's good to go to
twenty eight percent?
Speaker 10 (26:57):
Believe?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Just for someone if I'm a voter out in the
Midwest trying to make ends meet you, Just like.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
When did when did Donald Trump ever say.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
That he's telling you he's not racing?
Speaker 11 (27:10):
Yeah, I guess that, But when did he? But when
did he articulate what.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
You just.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
He already said that he was going to try and
keep his tax policy in place, trying to even reduce
the fifteen percent.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
I think.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
This is like one of the least popular policies Donald.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
If you want to talk about that policy, Kamala Harris
talks about how big corporation should be paying their fair
share that resonates more.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Than eighty eight percent. All your jobs at this table
come from the eighty eight percent job creation is in
the private sector.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
When when America, by the way, I love how Kevin does,
it's like talk amongst yourselves. After he makes his point,
like you have to be competitive with the rest of
the world. You go to twenty eight percent and the
G and the G twenty you're at the bottom.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
You not competitive. People will do business there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
International business won't come, international businesses won't expand people won't
buy goods and services.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You will destroy the economy.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And then he's like, you guys don't understand economics, like
it's six against one. By the way, this is what
I did for seven years in hell at CNN, like
this is what it's like. This is a guy that
everyone's trying to scream and yell over and they're like, well,
what you said is really smart. Basically is what their
defactive point was. But Donald Trump's ever said that he's like,
yes he has. They're like no, no, no, he's never
said it like you did.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
So they're like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Admitting, all right, what you said is brilliant, but Donald
Trump never said it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And he's like, that's what he's proposing, you idiots.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And then and then at the end he's like, I'm
not like, I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
There are two policies here.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
There is I'm gonna take every dime I can get
from anybody in this country and corporations, because there I
do believe there's a fundamental belief by by socialists that
corporations are evil.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Why because they threaten their power.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And if you can kneecap corporations, you can turn it
into Russia where the government owns everything communism, Remember you
own nothing. The private sector doesn't exist. The government is
the industry. The government is the leader in every industry.
The government does everything. And look how bad the government
sucks at everything they do. Now, we can't even give
kids to read writer do arithmetic with trillions of dollars
(29:13):
spent on public education, did you hear me? We can't
even keep you safe in this country. In major cities
where liberals are in charge, they can't even keep you safe.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But they want to take over now the companies.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And so if you do a corporate tax rate and
you say they're the evil guys, and you shut down
all the corporations, and you have more power.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
This is about power.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And by the way, for a government to have power
over you, do they need the population to be powerful
or weak.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
They need it to be weak.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
They need the majority of people to say I have nothing.
I need you to feed me, I need you to
clothe me, I need you to house me. I need
you to educate me, aka and doctrinate me. Look at
countries where there are socialist, Marxist and communists. The people
have no guns. The people are too weak to send
up to the peace people, to the government. I should say,
(30:03):
can you have a gun in Russia?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You have a good in Venezuela, no. Can you have
a gut in Cuba? No?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
They have massive gun control. What happened in Germany they
confiscate all the guns. No one could stop the extermination
of all the people and is all the Jews when
you the only thing that is saving us right now
is our constitution, which democrats don't like, our Supreme Court,
which they say they want to pack and the fact
that we don't have a corporate tax rate right now
(30:29):
at twenty eight percent.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Listen the last thing O'Leary says.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Americans are looking at huge corporations who are making money
hand over fist. While all of the prices.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
At the pro don't like this, they're what they are
wanting to talk about.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
They are going to be looking at what Harris is saying,
and what and what and what and if Harris is saying,
I want these corporations to pay their fair share, to
not get out of paying the zero reason.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
That you want to make America the bottom quartelle competition,
I love this.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
He's just saying.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So you're saying you hate corporations making money, which employed
the majority of people in this country, and you hate
them making money, the people working in corporations, and so
therefore you want to take that away because you hate
people being successful. That is exactly what the policy of
Kamala Harris is. Swallowell was asked a question about the
economy with just eleven days left to go.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Listen to what he said, Okay.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
You need in your life. So she's giving a speech
on Tuesday on the Ellipse clearly to mark the location
where Donald Trump delivered that speech on January sixth, again
focused on the threat of democracy and whatnot. Do you
think that people, the voters, basically the undecided voters, see
(31:55):
that as something that affects their daily lives more or
less than than healthcare.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
Undecided voters want in America that has free market capitalism,
not free for all capitalism. They want a rule of
law where all of us are treated the same, not
one set of rules for a president who thinks that
he's above the law and another set of rules for
those who are deemed his enemy. They want a land
(32:22):
where women have reproductive rights. That's why she's going to
Houston today to really animate that issue. So they're concerned
about all of these issues. And yes, of course they
want to know that if they work hard, they can
buy their first home, which is why Kamala Harris has
a twenty five thousand dollars down payment plan for first
time home buyers. These are all factors and I think
(32:42):
in these closing days she's hitting.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
On all of them all right.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
Collegeman Eric Swall, will appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I love that no follow up question. Thank you for
the propagannaswer.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thank you for coming on, Thank you for your service
to the clandestine services of began Feng Fang.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know the Chinese spy that was spy on you while.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You're naked and you thought she actually liked you, Like, dude,
what an amateur? How can you not tell you're like
hooking up with a Chinese spy? Did you not think, like, hey,
maybe I'm not that good looking, Like, dude, look like this.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I wish you guys could see the shirt.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Look at what I'm gonna show my producer, Like that's
that's not a dude that gets a fang thing. Like,
that's just not a dude that gets a fang thing.
Like it's just like, I'm sorry, And if you ever
saw a picture fang thing, fang thing was hot hot, Okay,
she was a hot hot fang thing.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And I'm like, he's got he's like got no undershirt on.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
He's got a little bit like the the low v
neck thing going on, like with a green shirt in
a green like back wall apartment. And that's who you
got on CNN defending Kamala Harris this morning, Like, thank you,
thank you forgiving me some of that guy like, that's
just amazing. Days away from the election, Folks, the closing
(33:52):
arguments right now or Donald Trump's is hitler, He's a fascist.
I'm not just voting for Donald Trump. Want to be
clear about this. I'm voting for the freedoms that he's
talking about. I'm voting for the dreams that he's talking about.
I'm voting for American independence on energy. I'm voting for
stronger borders. I'm voting for law and order. I'm voting
to end these wars, and I'm also voting for life.
(34:14):
I'm not voting to kill babies. The other side is
the opposite of this is a clear line in the sand.
I've never seen one more clear on policies. Choose wisely.
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