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June 18, 2025 • 18 mins
  1. Trump’s Hardline Approach:

    • Trump is demanding Iran’s unconditional surrender regarding its nuclear ambitions.
    • He has warned civilians to evacuate Tehran, signaling potential military action.
    • The focus is on targeting nuclear facilities, not a full-scale invasion or ground war.
  2. Military Posturing:

    • The U.S. has deployed bombers, aircraft carriers (e.g., Carl Vinson, Nimitz), and other assets to the region.
    • Trump has made direct threats to Iran’s Supreme Leader, emphasizing U.S. intelligence capabilities.
  3. Diplomatic and Political Support:

    • Vice President J.D. Vance is playing a key diplomatic role, advocating for limited, strategic military action.
    • Senator Ted Cruz and other allies support Trump’s stance, emphasizing the threat of a nuclear Iran to both the U.S. and Israel.
  4. Public and Political Reaction:

    • The episode claims broad domestic support for Trump’s actions, while criticizing Democrats for their silence.
    • It portrays Trump as a decisive leader acting to prevent a larger conflict, not provoke one.
  5. Strategic Messaging:

    • Trump’s administration is using a 60-day deadline for Iran to comply with demands.
    • The rhetoric includes psychological operations, such as encouraging Iranian civilians to question their government’s power.
  6. Possible Outcomes:

    • The podcast outlines three scenarios:
      1. Regime change in Iran.
      2. Targeted assassination of Iranian leadership.
      3. Iran’s surrender and compliance with nuclear restrictions.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What specifically is better than a ceasfire?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What are you looking for here?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
And then a real end, not a ceasefire, and then
we are giving up entirely.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Is that okay too?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good Wednesday morning.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Welcome, It is the forty seven Morning Updates, so nice
to have you with us. Don't forget hit that subscribe,
but if you've not so you do not miss a show.
First up, we're gonna give you the latest on what's happening,
and it's evolving very quickly with America's foreign policy when
it comes to Iran and the real chance now that
America may join the fight. Also Donald Trump making it

(00:40):
clear what his intentions are with Iran and calling out
the Supreme Leader as well. We're going to break all
of that down for you. I want to also just
talk to you real quickly about what you can do
to help the people in Israel. And we've been talking
for a long time about an organization called the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
And right now, after your.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Witnessing what is happening, you may say, you know what,
I want to stand with the people in Israel and
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not just in the Middle East, but.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Even here in America.

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are being threatened, Families that are living in fear, and
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(01:35):
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Speaker 2 (02:05):
If you want to stand with the people in Israel.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
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(02:28):
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morning update and it starts right now.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Story number one.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Donald Trump's hardline stance on Iran's nuclear program and what
that means moving forward is becoming much more clear. Donald
Trump number one demanding Iran's unconditional surrender. Trump escalating his
rhetoric in light of the recent Israel Iran strikes, calling
for rand surrender and warning civilians to evacuate Tehran. We

(03:05):
also know that it's clear what the president wants to do.
It is targeting Iran's nuclear sites. Let's be clear, this
is not about a war or an invasion or boots
on the ground. Trump is not ruling out strikes and
Iran's nuclear facilities, but he's also made it clear he's
not wanting to invade anything at all. He has even

(03:27):
made it clear to the Supreme Leader calling him quote
an easy target, though saying killing him is not on
the table for now. Why did he say that, warning
the Supreme Leader that you better not harm a single
American troop in the Middle East? Now it's very clear
that Iran could in fact go after American soldiers, and

(03:48):
the President wanted to get ahead of that, saying if
you want to die, because I know where you are,
I can take you out at any moment, So you
better not retaliate and go after any American bases or
servicemen and women. Targeting Iran's nuclear sites is what this
is really all about.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
And now we know that the.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
President is mobilizing military assets as well. The US has
now positioned bombers, refueling tankers, and aircraft carriers the Carl
Vincent and the Nimits to the region as a show
of force. We also know the Vice President is playing
a major role in the diplomacy. Jeddy Vance is also
playing the role of reassuring skeptics Vans, countering those within

(04:33):
the base who are saying that Donald Trump should just
be an isolationist and should not get involved at all,
making it clear that Trump has an obligation to defend
America and make sure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear
weapon to attack American citizens as well as our ally
Israel now stressing restraint is also part of what the

(04:54):
White House is talking about. They are signaling yes, potential
military action be extremely limited to the nuclear sites. Both
Vans and other administration officials are stressing that the immediate,
full scale action of even going after these new nuclear
sites has not been confirmed. And you've got to put

(05:14):
this in a broader context. There is clear support for
the president at home for him to go after Iran's
nuclear sites, but there's also clear polling to show that
Americans do not want boots on the ground. They do
not want to invade Iran either, and that is what
Donald Trump has been very clear about. He has no

(05:35):
intention of doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Now.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
The other question is when will the decision be made?
The State Department spokesman saying this about the president earlier.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's up to the president.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
He is the singular guiding hand about what will be
occurring from this point forward, as he has been, and
I think that that dynamic is pretty clear. He says
he wants an end as he has said about every
conflict that he has as a peacemaker worked to stop
peacefully through diplomacy. That has been his commitment. And he

(06:09):
wants these things, as he said about in a number
of situations, not for a month or six months, but
durable ends to this nature of forever wars. And that
has been his posture, and that's his posture.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
It's very clear the President does not want this to
continue on. That's why he gave that sixty day window
to get a deal done with Iran. And once sixty
days was up, the President then said, okay, and now
we're going to have to let Israel do what Israel
needs to do to protect and defend itself. Now, President
Trump also has major allies in Congress who are coming

(06:45):
out clearly stating that they believe the President has the
right and an obligation to protect America and take out
a RAN's nuclear program. Senator Cruz, talking with Sean Hannity earlier,
said this.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Here with reaction, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator, it is amazing.
I watched the president. You should have listened. I gave
you time. I watched the President warn the people of Tehran,
and we'll show more video of it to get out,
and there's like millions of people listening to Donald Trump.

(07:18):
They're not getting that message from the leadership of Iran.
They're getting it from the President of the United States,
showing that he cares about human life.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, listen, President Trump, throughout this conflict has been fantastic.
I spoke to the President on Sunday and just told him,
I said, your leadership has been so critical on this,
and he made clear Iran is not getting a nuclear weapon,
and he is standing with Israel. I believe our position
should be we stand unequivocally with the state of Israel.
And I'll make a point, Israel is doing an enormous

(07:49):
favor to.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
The United States right now.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I believe the most acute near term security threat facing
America is the threat of a nuclear Iran because the
Ayatola is a religious nut case. He is a theocratic
mass murderer, and when he chants death to America and
death to Israel, he does so in front of mobs
of people. He also refers to Israel as the little

(08:11):
Satan and America as the Great Satan. There is a
reason the Iyatola is developing ICBMs. ICBMs are incontinental ballistic missiles.
You don't need an ICBM to bomb Israel. They're bombing
Israel with ballistic missiles. You need an ICBM to get
to America. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, I think

(08:32):
the odds are unacceptably high that we would find out
with a mushroom cloud over New York City or Los
Angeles or Tel Aviv and Israel. And what Israel has
said is we are going to act. Israel is a
tiny country. It's the size of the state of New Jersey,
and they are taking out Iran's military with surgical precision.
They're taking out virtually all of the senior leaders of

(08:53):
the military. They're taking out their nuclear scientists, they are
leveling nuclear facilities on the ground. And I think President
Trump is exactly right to say we stand with Israel.
And I'm with a seventy five percent of Americans that
agree with the President's strong stance to keep America safe.
That's the commander in chief's number one job to protect
American lives and keep America safe.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's what Donald Trump is doing today.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
By the way, this brings me to another big story,
and it's a story that they're trying to play up
on TV the story that there's some massive divide between
the MAGA movement. There isn't actually that big of a
divide at all. The majority of people that I know
are supporting President Donald Trump and his actions, and they're
glad that we have a president that is standing up

(09:38):
and willing to protect and defend all of us. The Dims,
by the way, have also gone completely silent on this
Israel Iran conflict. It's a question that many of us,
and the media especially should be asking, what do you
think and why are you being so quiet?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Jesse Waters bringing that up on Fox.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Trump's consumed in one of the most consequential moments of
his presidency. Nukes, oil casualties, mid East strategy, the six
are high, and the Republican Party is having an open debate.
But the Democrat parties know where to be found. They've
gone silent during an historical moment where the leading foreign
policy voices of the Democrat Party, the strategists, the hawks,

(10:20):
the doves, anybody, does anybody have an opinion? Democrats don't
know what to say because they have to be told
what to say, and no one's telling them. We haven't
heard a word from Hillary, Obama, Biden, Kommel, and not
even Susan Rice or Blink and carry. Where are all
these people While Trump tries to manage wars overseas, Democrats
are trying to kick off a civil war here at home.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Jesse's absolutely right, where are the people on the left,
Which brings me to my final point. There's a very
good chance and by the time you even hear this show,
we may find out that Donald Trump has ordered our
US military to attack the nuclear sites in Iran?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
And why did he do it? To protect all of us?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And that is something that every American should be proud of. Unfortunately,
there are going to be many detractors who are going
to say that Donald Trump is getting us into World
War three, when the reality is he's probably preventing it.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Now story number two, there's a.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Real chance now that the United States of America may
join Israel in the war against Iran. Now, let me
explain why this could take place so and also understand
what war means in twenty twenty five. Number one, there
is no chance that Donald Trump is going to put
troops on the ground. There will be no boots on

(11:39):
the ground. That is not what this means. That's number one.
Number two, this is not an invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan,
which there have been many that have been lying about
that over the last several hours.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
So I want to clear that up.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
In fact, I've talked to several of my good friends
that work in the administration and they're saying that is
not even a remote possibility. Donald Trump is saying to
Iran is simple surrender.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Surrender and do the deal on your nuclear program or
prepare for your nuclear program to be annihilated. That is
what he is saying. And he's not mincing words on
this either, because as Donald Trump has said, look, we
can take total control of Iranian airspace as Israel is done,
and we also know where the Ayatota is hiding.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now we're not going to kill him right now.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
But he's telling you, Ittola, like you want to die, fine,
Like we can make that happen.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
We know where you are and we can kill you.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
We would rather not do that, but if you want
to stay in power, then you better do the damn deal.
And so what would this look like is I think
a better way of putting it. If we did get involved,
it would actually be very very simple. We would use
the technology that I think we're the only country that
has it to go after this nuclear site that is

(12:54):
very deep underground in Iran. Israel does not have the
technology to hit that deep. That's part of what you
need to understand. So again I go back to the
basic thing. Is this something that America needs?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do? Yes? I believe that it is. I really do.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I believe this isn't our best interest for us to
make sure that there is an Iran that uh is
not nuclear right. And Donald Trump's also been clear about
this for quite some time and finked in fact, he's
he has been so clear on this since the day
came down the elevator ten years and one day ago
or ten years and two days ago, where he said

(13:30):
to the world that there's no circumstance where Ran can
get a nuclear weapon. There's no circumstance where Ran can
get a nuclear weapon. That is significant. And the President
is not bluffing on this, okay, Like the President has
made it very clear that you can't trust them. Now,
why can't you trust them? Because they're a murders regime,

(13:52):
Like that's what they are, and they chant death to
America and they chant death to Israel. So when that's
what they do and that is what they said, then
I think you just say, Okay, I actually believe you.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I believe you when.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
You tell me that you want to kill innocent men, women,
children that are Americans, and you want to annihilate the Jews,
and if you have a nuclear weapon, you will either
do it or you'll give it to one of your
terrorist proxy groups that you support, and they will do it.
There's also a second part of what's happening right now
that I think people need to understand as well, and
that second part is this. The President is also I

(14:25):
think inspiring the people of Iran and especially specifically in Tehran,
to understand that, hey, your government may not be as
powerful as they actually have been able to make you believe.
In fact, they're incredibly vulnerable. Look at the traffic jams
and the people leaving Tehran as the President said, leave evacuate.

(14:46):
They weren't listening to the leadership in Iran like that's
something they were not doing. They were listening to the
American president of the United States of America, and they were
leaving because the President said to evacuate Tehran. And when
he did that, I think that also sent a veryquer
message like, Hey, your guys that claim that they're in
charge of your country, that are holding you back and
oppressing you and in our brutal dictators of a murder's regime,

(15:10):
like they may be a lot more vulnerable than you
actually understand. Also, having air superiority is part.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Three of this.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
The fact that Iran was able to be decimated when
it comes to their air power virtually instantly by Israel,
and now Israel can do whatever they want to do
whenever they want to do it, however they want to
do it.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Over the skies of Israel, of Iran.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
It is also incredibly telling, like it is unbelievable now
what we're looking at, and I mean this like it is.
It is just amazing to me that we have seen
how quickly Iran has been just decimated and now you
can do whatever you want to do. Now you put
all this together in a perfect storm where we are now.

(15:58):
And this is also a think a foreign policy issure.
We're sitting the president saying the message of the world
like if I tell you, whether it's tariffs or a
nuclear program, that this is the deal, and you don't
believe me. Watch how fast you find out? Like this,
this goes back to that FAFO mentality of this of
this administration, like watch and find out. You have the
President returning to Washington after cutting the G seven Canada

(16:21):
trip short. You have the President saying, everybody get together
in the situation room. You have the president telling that
clearly the vice president to go out and say.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Hey, we may enter this war.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
All of these different scenarios and just how quickly the
President is moving, I think is just on no one.
I think believe the President would move this quick. And
I think he's shown people that like, hey, not only
are we going to move this quick, but you guys
better get the hell out of the way. Like when
I tell you something, if it's sixty days, and that
was a nice timeline that I gave you, right it was,

(16:50):
it really was. It was a nice timeline. And the
sixty day timeline that I gave you, you should have paid
attention and you should have listened. And if you would
have listened, then you wouldn't be in the scenario. And
so if you're the iatota right now, you may lose everything.
I think that's also part of what the present is
saying you want to lose everything. You want to lose
all your power and your life, because we know where
you are and I could kill you right now if

(17:13):
I want to. The Israelis could kill you right now
if they want to. There's no reason for you try
to run high because we're going to watch you. We
know where you are, we know where you're going, and
if you think for a moment that we can't kill you,
then you're an idiot. This is all part of the
presence peace through strengths, showing you here's your deadline, and
I'm not screwing around now. This deadline of sixty days

(17:34):
was I also think a very nice one. I really do.
I think it was a very nice deadline. It was
one that gave them not thirty days, but sixty days
to do this. I think that's a positive. Like that
was showing that he was really willing to come together
and he was really willing to have a conversation. Unfortunately,
Iran and their you know, murderous regime, for some reason,
thought they were much more powerful thany actually were. Well,

(17:56):
all that's been shot to hell now, like it's all
just been shot to hell, and so we're at a
point now where there are three different scenarios.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
In my mind that could happen.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Okay, Number one, we could have total regime change and
ran and that could happen actually quickly if the people
rise up. Number Two, we could actually take out the
leader if we need to, or Israel could take out
the leader if he needs to, and that could be
significant as well. Or three, they come to the deal
and they surrender and then everything just calms down very quickly.
Those are three very real and very different scenarios.

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