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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So let's start with the latest breaking news, and that
is there's a real chance now but the United States
of America may join Israel in the war against Iran. Now,
let me explain why this could take place, and I
also understand what war means in twenty twenty five. Number one,
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there is no chance that Donald Trump is going to
put troops on the ground. There will be no boots
on the ground. That is not what this means. That's
number one. Number Two, this is not an invasion of
Iraq or Afghanistan, which there have been many that have
been lying about that over the last several hours.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So I want to clear that up.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
In fact, I've talked to several of my good friends
that work in the administration and they're saying that is
not even a remote possibility. What Donald Trump is saying
to Iran is simple surrender.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Surrender and do the deal on your nuclear program or
prepare for your nuclear program to be annihilated. That is
what he is saying. And he's not mincing words on
this either, because as Donald Trump has said, look, we
can take total control of Iranian airspace as Israel is done.
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And we also know where the iotola is hiding now.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're not going to kill him right now.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But he's telling me Ittola, like you want to die, fine,
Like we can make that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We know where you are and we can kill you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We would rather not do that, but if you want
to stay in power, then you better do the damn deal.
And so what would this look like is I think
a better way of putting it. If we did get involved,
it would actually be very very simple. We would use
the technology that I think we're the only country that
has it to go after this nuclear site that is
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very deep underground in Iran. Israel does not have the
technology to hit that deep. That's part of what you
need to understand. So again I go back to the
basic thing. Is this something that America needs to do?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yes? I believe it it is, I really do.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I believe this isn't our best interest for us to
make sure that there is an Iran that UH is
not nuclear right. And Donald Trump's also been clear about
this for quite.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Some time in finct.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
In fact, he's he has been so clear on this
since today came down the elevator ten years in one
day ago or ten years and two days ago, where
he said to the world that there's no circumstance where
Ran can get a nuclear weapon. There's no circumstance where
Ran can get a nuclear weapon that is significant, and
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the President is not bluffing on this, Okay, Like the
President has made it very clear that you can't trust them.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now, why can't you trust them?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Because they're a murders regime, Like that's what they are.
And they chant death to America and they chant death
to Israel.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So when that's what they.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do and that is what they say, then I think you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Just say, Okay, I actually believe you.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I believe you when you tell me that you want
to kill innocent men, women, children that are Americans, and
you want to annihilate the Jews. And if you have
a nuclear weapon, you will either do it or you'll
give it to one of your terrorist proxy groups that
you support and they will do it. There's also a
second part of what's happening right now that I think
people need to understand as well.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
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Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now that second part is this.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The President is also I think inspiring the people of
Iran and especially specifically in Tehran, to understand that, hey,
your government may not be as powerful as they actually
have been able to make you believe.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
In fact, they're incredibly vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Look at the traffic jams and the people leaving Tehran
as the President said.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Leave, evacuate.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They weren't listening to the leadership in Iran like that,
That's something they were not doing. They were listening to
the American president of the United States of America, and
they were leaving because the President said to evacuate Tehran.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And when he.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Did that, I think that also said a very Cauer message, like, Hey,
your guys that claim that they're in charge of your country,
that are holding you back and oppressing you in our
brutal dictators of a murder's regime, like they may be
a lot more vulnerable than.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You actually understand.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Also, having air superiority is part three of this.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The fact that Iran was.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Able to be decimated when it comes to their air
power virtually instantly by Israel, and now Israel can do
whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it,
however they want to.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Do it over the skies of Israel or of Iran.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It is also incredibly telling, like it is unbelievable now
what we're looking at, and I mean this like it
is it is just amazing to me that we have
seen how quickly Iran has been just decimated and now
you can do whatever you want to do. Now you
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put all this together in a perfect storm where we
are now And this is also I think a foreign
policy issue, or we're sitting the presence of the message
of the world, Like if I tell you, whether it's
tariffs or a nuclear program, that this is the deal,
and you don't believe me, watch.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How fast you find out?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Like this goes back to that FAFO mentality of this
of this administration, like watch and find out. You have
the President returning to Washington after cutting the G seven
Canada trip short. You have the President saying, everybody get
together in the situation room. You have the president telling
that clearly the vice president to go out and say, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
We may enter this war.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
All of these different scenarios and just how quickly the
president is moving I think is just no one I
think believe the President would move this quick. And I
think he's shown people that like, hey, not only are
we going to move this quick, but you guys better
get the hell out of the way. Like when I
tell you something, if it's sixty days, And that was
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a nice timeline that I gave you, right, it really was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It was a nice timeline.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And the sixty day timeline that I gave you, you should
have paid attention and you should have listened. And if
you would have listened, then you wouldn't be in the scenario.
And so if you're the Iatota right now, you may
lose everything. I think that's also part of what the
President is saying. You want to lose everything. You want
to lose all your power and your life because we
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know where you are and I could kill you right now.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
If I want to.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The Israelis could kill you right now if they want to.
There's no reason for you try to run high because
we're gonna watch you. We know where you are, we
know where you're going, and if you think for a
moment that we can't kill you, then you're an idiot.
This is all part of the presence peace through strength,
showing you here's.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Your deadline, and I'm not screwing around now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
This deadline of sixty days was I also think a
very nice one. I really do. I think it was
a very nice deadline. It was one that gave them
not thirty days, but sixty days to do this. I
think that's a positive like that was showing that he
was really willing to come together and he was really
willing to have a conversation. Unfortunately, Iran and their you know,
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murderous regime, for some reason, thought they were much more
powerful thany actually were. Well, all that's been shot to
hell now like it's all just been shot to hell.
And so where to point now? Where there are three
different scenarios in.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
My mind that can happen.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, Number one, we could have total regime change in
a Ran, and that could happen actually quickly if the
people rise up. Number Two, we could actually take out
the leader if we need to, or Israel could take
out the leader if he needs.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
To, and that could be significant as well.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Or Three, they come to the deal and they surrender
and then everything just calms down very quickly. Those are
three very real and very different scenarios. By the way,
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Speaker 2 (10:52):
Update as well and you'll have that also.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There's also another aspect of this conversation, and it deals
with the under estimating, yet again by so many in
the media and so many on Capitolhill, of Donald Trump's
understanding of the issues here. Kat McFarland is a dear
friend of mine. She went on Fox Hus Channel with
Harris Faukner earlier today, and I want you to hear
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what she had to say about the president's choice here
and deciphering military intelligence before he gets involved.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Like the President thinks about these things, He's not knee jerk. Listen.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Letico is calling the conflict Trump's moment of truth quote.
It's hard to overstate the significance of this moment. American
involvement in this war could end to Ron's nuclear ambitions
and even topple its autocratic government, reshaping the Middle East
for decades to come. The New York Times with this headline,
Trump's aron choice last chance diplomacy or a bunker busting bomb.
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Katie McFarlane, former deputy National Security advisor to President Trump,
is here, and I know you have had many of
your children grown children serving in the military, and you
have a lot of experiences at these points in time
when presidents were making these types of decisions. What stands
out to you the president in with his advisors today.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Look, I've been in the situation room with President Trump
where he's had to make decisions like this.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He is really good.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
This is his finest moment. He's cool, He gathers intelligence,
he doesn't get the yips. He finds out from his
military leaders, his diplomatic leaders, his intelligence leaders, what are
his options, and then he probably thinks of two or
three other options that nobody else has thought of.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So what am I looking for right now?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
President Trump has said it pretty well, Aron's not going
to get a nuclear weapon, and then he said, well,
let's wait and see.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
President Trump. I don't think he needs to.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Make the decision right now of whether to attack Florida,
whether or not to attack Florido. Who knows what the
Israelis have. We know that the Israelis have commandos on
the ground in Iran. Maybe there are other ways to
destroy that nuclear weapons site other than bunker busting bombs
that American military drop.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, and I see you focusing on that because that
fourto is exactly what people are saying. If you don't
take that out, you don't take away that pause in
future capability. I want to get to this because sometimes
our assets can be enough for an enemy to see
and they are on the move. The USS Nimics, which
is the oldest active US aircraft carrier, deployed from the
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South China Sea yesterday headed toward the Middle East. Dozens
of Air Force refueling tanker aircraft have been moved to
Europe to position closer to the Mid East, giving President
Trump and a SITCOM commander more tactical options. And it's
just part of the United States effort to shift military resources,
including ships, to the region as tensions are obviously escalating.
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So you've got that on the move, and that in
itself sends a signal your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
K T.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I was in the Reagan administration working at the Pentagon
the last time the United States and Iran had Canaan.
We're close to a military conflagration, shall we say, I
mean Iran was trying to do things in the Gulf
and the United States maybe just stopped and cold. And
a lot of the senior leadership now of the Iranian
military would have been the young military officers in the
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nineteen eighties when that happened.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
They would certainly be aware of it.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I don't think they want to tangle with the United
States because, as President Trump has said, you know, don't
mess with Americans, and he said it whether he's talked
to the Taliban, whether he's talked to the Russians, where
he's talk to anybody, you harm the hair on the
head of one American and then we're coming to get you.
So that's got to be a huge deterney, especially for
a leadership which is probably under a certain amount of
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internal stress. I mean, if you're the Iatola, if you're
those generals, you've got to look at the guys to
your left to you're right. Massad is thoroughly integrated and infiltrated.
A lot of the military and Iran and the leadership
in iron they've got to worry about their own job security.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean, really, do I actually agree with the New
York Times as Katy was talking about there with their
headline right, Trump's Iran choice last chance diplomacy or a
bunker busting bomb, and.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
She described it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
She said, Hey, he doesn't actually have to make that
decision right now, but you can move the chips to
isolate Iran's leadership and say, you guys want to still
be alive, You guys still want to be in charge
of your country.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Do you really want to play chicken with us this way?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm not sure you do, because I'm in charge right
now and I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Not screwing around now.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
The Iranian Foreign minister, by the way, also had this
to say moments ago with Larry Kudlow and Fox Business.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Another thing from President Trump. He is telling people in
Tehran to evacuate immediately. That's a very forceful statement from
our president, as you know, is a man of straight talk.
How should we interpret that? What do you think the
next step is? Is the United States going to join
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the war? Is it just defensive? I mean, why have
Tehran evacuate immediately?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
In your view?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
First of all, I would like to think President Trump
and think the US for the support they are giving us,
you know, defense, It is appreciated here. We will never
decide for others. It's the president that decides for the
US based on American interests and define what are the
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American national security interest and they will have their decisions,
and we can only say thank you for the support
we are getting for the US.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
But mister Trump is also adding, and this is a
key phrase, a historic phrase, he wants unconditional surrender. Now,
I hadn't actually heard anybody say that before. There's a
long and glorious history of that term, going all the
way back to Ulysses S. Grant in our Civil War
and of course going back to World War two. Unconditional
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surrender is that in fact an Israeli goal.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Well, I.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Will tell you how I look at it. President Trump
was very consistent with saying that Iran shouldn't en reached
and one shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Have a nuclear power.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
And Iran played all the time they use negotiations only
to waste time. And during that time they also made
a progress getting closer to.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
A nuclear bomb.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
As a matter of fact, they were very they were
very close to a nuclear bomb. Try to also deal
with the weaponization. So the way I see it is
when President Trump is saying that, he means the same
thing he said previously that they shouldn't have a nuclear
weapons and they shouldn't and reach and until now Iran
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just wasted time, deceived live. The IEEA simply said, they
are in a position of breaching their commitments, in a
position of non compliance. But the Iranian reaction was, well,
we will open a new facility and you enrichment facility.
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So this behavior is not acceptable anymore. And President Trump
is a leader of the free world who is simply
saying it, very very simply, in a very simple way.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I mean, you listen to the Israeli Foreign minister quote.
I would like to thank President Trump and thank the
US for support they're giving us and our defense. This
comes back to the issue of defense. Katie and mc
McFarland saying Trump is really good in deciphering military intelligence,
and again this comes back to the issue of defense.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The State Department spokesman.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Today she put it this way, Cammy Bruce.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
At the podium at the Defense Department, Listen, that is
up to the president.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
He is the singular guiding hand about what will be
a cur from this point forward, as he has been,
and I think that that dynamic is pretty clear. He
says he wants an end as he has said about
every conflict that he has as a peacemaker, worked to
stop peacefully through diplomacy. That has been his commitment. And
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he wants these things, as he said about a number
of situations, not for a month or six months, but
durable ends to this nature of forever wars. And that
has been his posture. And that's his posture now.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That is his posture now. President Trump is seeking a
durable end to this nature of forever wars. And this
has been his posture, and that is his posture now.
Like he's not changing, he has not been changing. And
this is the president of the United States of America saying,
you've got an option.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Either you get rid of nuclear proiferation.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Where we can verify it and you do a deal,
or we'll do it for you, and there's a very
good chance that we will act, and there's a very
good chance you could lose everything, including your life. And
that is him speaking directly the leader of Iran. You
want to know what strength and peace looks like. You
want to know what a leadership can you imagine, By
the way, if Joe Biden was president right now or
Kamala Hairs, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. The
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conversation we'd be having is about Iran becoming a nuclear country.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's the conversation we'd be having.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Donald Trump's hardline stance on Iran's nuclear program and what
that means moving forward is becoming much more clear. Donald
Trump number one demanding Iran's unconditional surrender. Trump escalating his
rhetoric in light of the recent Israel Iran strikes, calling
for Ran to surrender and warning civilians to evacuate to Ran.
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We also know that it's clear what the President wants
to do. It is targeting Iran's nuclear sites. Let's be clear,
this is not about a war or an invasion or
boots on the ground. Trump is not ruling out strikes
and Iran's nuclear facilities, but he's also made it clear
he's not wanting to invade anything at all. He has
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even made it clear to the Supreme Leader, calling him
quote an easy target, those saying killing him is not
on the table for now. Why did he say that,
warning the Supreme Leader that you better not harm a
single American troop in the Middle East? Now, it's very
clear that Iran could in fact go after American soldiers,
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and the President wanted to get ahead of that, saying
if you want to die, because I know where you are,
I can take you out at any moment, So you
better not retaliate and go after any American bases or
servicemen and women. Targeting Iran's nuclear sites is what this
is really all about.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And now we know that the.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
President is mobilizing military assets as well.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The US is now.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Positioned bombers, refueling tankers, and aircraft carriers the Carl Vincent
and the nimits to the region as a show of force.
We also know the Vice President is playing a major
role in the diplomacy. Jeddy Vance is also playing the
role of reassuring skeptics Vans, countering those within the base
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who are saying that Donald Trump should just be an
isolationist and should not get involved at all, making it
clear that Trump has an obligation to defend America and
make sure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon to
attack American citizens as well as our ally Israel. Now
stressing restraint is also part of what the White House
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is talking about. They are signaling, yes, potential military action,
but it would be extremely limited to the nuclear sites.
Both Vance and other administration officials are stressing that the
immediate full scale action of even going after these new
nuclear sites has not been confirmed.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And you got put this in a broader context.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
There is clear support for the president at home for
him to go after Randse nuclear sites, but there's also
clear polling to show that Americans do not want boots
on the ground. They do not want to invade Iran either,
and that is what Donald Trump has been very clear about.
He has no intention of doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
The other question is when will the decision be made.
The State Department spokesman saying this about the President earlier.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
EXCEP to the president, he is the singular guiding hand
about what will be occurring from this point forward, as
he has been, and I think that that dynamic is
pretty clear. He says he wants an end, as he
has said about every conflict that he has as a
peacemaker worked to stop peacefully through diplomacy. That has been
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his commitment. And he wants these things, as he said
about in a number of situations for a month or
six months, but durable ends to this nature of forever wars,
and that has been his posture, and that's his posture.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Now it's very clear. The President does not want this
to continue on. That's why he gave that sixty day
window to get a deal done with Iran. And once
sixty days was up, the President then said, okay, and
now we're going to have to let Israel do what
Israel needs to do to protect and defend itself. Now,
President Trump also has major allies in Congress who are
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coming out clearly stating that they believe the President has
the right and an obligation to protect America and take
out a Rand's nuclear program. Senator Cruz, talking with Sean
Hannity earlier, said this.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Here with reaction.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
Texas Senator Ted Kruz, Senator, it is amazing. I watched
the president. You should have listened. I gave you time.
I watched the President warn the people of Tehran and
we'll show more.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Video of it to get out.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
And there's like millions of people listening to Donald Trump.
They're not getting that message from the leadership of Iran.
They're getting it from the President of the United States
showing that he cares about human life.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Well, listen, President Trump, throughout this conflict has been fantastic.
I spoke to the President on Sunday and just told him,
I said, your leadership has been so critical on this,
and he made clear Iran is not getting a nuclear
weapon and he is standing with Israel. I believe our
position should be we stand unequivocally with the state of Israel,
and I'll make a point, Israel is doing an enormous
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favor to the United States right now. I believe the
most acute near term security threat facing America is the
threat of a nuclear Iran because the Iyatola is a
religious nutcase. He is a theocratic mass murderer, and when
he chants death to America and death to Israel, he
does so in front of mobs of people. He also
refers to Israel as the Little Satan and America as
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the Great Satan. There is a reason the Ayatola is
developing ICBMs. ICBMs are intercontinental ballistic missiles. You don't need
an ICBM to bomb Israel. They're bombing Israel with ballistic missiles.
You need an ICBM to get to America. If Iran
gets a nuclear weapon, I think the odds are unacceptably
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high that we would find out with a mushroom cloud
over New York City or Los Angeles or Tel Aviv
and Israel, and what Israel has said is we.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Are going to act.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Israel is a tiny country, it's the size of the
state of New Jersey, and they are taking out Iran's
military with surgical precision. They're taking out virtually all of
the senior leaders of the military. They're taking out their
nuclear scientists, they are leveling nuclear facilities on the ground.
And I think President Trump is exactly right to say
we stand with Israel. And I'm with a seventy five
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percent of Americans that agree with the President's strong stance
to keep America safe. That's the commander in chief's number
one job, to protect American lives and keep them marta
Erica safe.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's what Donald Trump is doing today.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
By the way, this brings me to another big story,
and it's a story that they're trying to play up
on TV, the story that there's some massive divide between
the MAGA movement. There isn't actually that big of a
divide at all. The majority of people that I know
are supporting President Donald Trump and his actions, and they're
glad that we have a president that is standing up
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and willing to protect and defend all of us. The Dems,
by the way, have also gone completely silent on this
Israel Iran conflict. It's a question that many of us,
and the media especially should be asking, what do you
think and why are you being so quiet?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Jesse Waters bringing that up on Fox.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
Trump's consumed in one of the most consequential moments of
his presidency. Nukes, oil casualties, mid East strategy, the six
are high, and the Republican Party is having an open debate.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
But the Democrat parties know.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Where to be found.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
They've gone silent.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
An historical moment where the leading foreign policy voices of
the Democrat Party, the strategist, the Hawks, the doves, anybody,
does anybody have an opinion? Democrats don't know what to
say because they have to be told what to say,
and no one's telling them. We haven't heard a word
from Hillary, Obama, Biden, Kammelin, not even Susan Rice or
Blink and carry.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Where are all these people?
Speaker 10 (28:21):
While Trump tries to manage wars overseas, Democrats are trying
to kick off a civil.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
War here at home.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Jesse's absolutely right, where are the people on the left,
Which brings me to my final point. There's a very
good chance and by the time you even hear this show,
we may find out that Donald Trump has ordered our
US military to attack the nuclear sites in Iran and
why did he do it?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
To protect all of us?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And that is something that every American should be proud of. Unfortunately,
there are going to be many detractors who are going
to say that Donald Trump is getting us into World
War three, when the reality is he's probably preventing it.
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Speaker 2 (29:09):
We'll see you back here tomorrow.