🏛️ Legal and Judicial Topics
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Universal Injunctions & Trump’s Executive Order on Birthright Citizenship
- Discussion of a legal challenge to President Trump’s executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship.
- Criticism of universal (nationwide) injunctions issued by district judges.
- Praise for a recent 6-3 Supreme Court decision (authored by Justice Amy Coney Barrett) that limits the use of such injunctions.
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Parental Rights in Education
- Supreme Court case involving Montgomery County, Maryland, where parents challenged a mandatory LGBTQ+ curriculum for young children.
- The Court ruled 6-3 in favor of parental rights, allowing parents to opt their children out based on religious grounds.
📚 Education Policy and School Choice
- Expansion of 529 Savings Plans
- Legislation to allow up to $20,000 annually for K–12 education expenses.
- Federal Tax Credit for School Scholarships
- Up to $1,700 tax credit for donations to scholarship-granting organizations.
- States must opt in; Texas expected to participate.
💰 Legislation and Budget Negotiations
- Discussion of a major bill involving:
- Medicaid reforms (slowing growth, work requirements).
- Debt ceiling extension through President Trump’s term.
- Internal GOP negotiations, including key swing votes from Senators Lisa Murkowski and Rand Paul.
- Frustration over compromises and increased spending to secure votes.
🎬 Cultural Commentary: Movies
- Critique of a New York Times list of top movies as “anti-American” or “elitist.”
- Personal recommendations of films from 2000–2025, including:
- Hidden Figures, La La Land, The Darkest Hour, Black Panther, Top Gun: Maverick, Oppenheimer, Killers of the Flower Moon.
- Praise for high-grossing films like Avatar, Avengers: Endgame, and Spider-Man: No Way Home.
- Anecdote about a friend redecorating the senator’s room with Star Wars-themed bedding as a joke.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz week in Review,
Ben Ferguson with you, and I hope you were having
a fabulous Fourth of July weekend with your family being
safe on the road. If you're traveling as well. We've
got some major stories for you that you may have
missed this Fourth of July week First up, major victories
coming from the Supreme Court helping parents and also making
(00:23):
sure that you get to make decisions on what happens
when your kids go to schools. I'll have those details
in a moment. Also, legislation on school choice made it
into the big Beautiful Bill. There were many that wanted
to get rid of it, and we'll give you the
story behind how we kept it in the bill. And finally,
for a little fun for the fourth of July weekend,
(00:46):
the last ten great movies of the twenty first century,
given to you by none than Center Ted Cruz. It's
the weekend review and it starts right now. All right,
So let's start with universal injunctions and the Trump the
Cossack case. This is also, by the way, something that
you share the subcommittee hearing on that very issue earlier
(01:09):
this month. So explain why this is such an important
issue for everyone listening.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, this was a case challenging President Trump's executive order
on birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship is the law that says
that a baby born in America is a US citizen,
even if that baby's parents are illegally, even if they
came illegally precisely to have that baby in America, Nonetheless,
that baby is a US citizen. As a policy matter,
(01:39):
I think that is a very foolish policy. It is
a policy that incentivizes illegal immigration. You see people, I
spend a lot of time at the southern border. I
go go out on midnight patrols with the border patrol agents.
We see everyday pregnant women coming across the border illegally,
coming across being brought in by human traffickers with the
(02:00):
express purpose of coming here to have their baby in America.
Because that baby then becomes an anchor baby, that baby
becomes a US citizen. That doesn't make any sense. And
by the way, most of the other countries on Earth
don't have that policy. If you sneak into another country illegally,
most other countries don't make them a citizen of that country.
It is an accident of American history that our law
(02:21):
has done that, and so for more than a decade
I have advocating for ending birthright citizenship. Now, Ben there
is an open legal debate about how you can end
birthright citizenship. There are some legal scholars who argue it
can only be done through a constitutional amendment. And the
reason is part of the predicate for birthright citizenship is
(02:44):
the language of the Fourteenth Amendment that talks about granting
citizenship to people born in America. Now, there's a phrase
in the Fourteenth Amendment which is subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
and legal skis argue back and forth. Some say you
can only change birthright citizenship through a constitutional amendment. If
(03:06):
that's the case, we should have an amendment because it's
a policy that is foolish. Others say Congress can pass
legislation to end birthright citizenship because someone who comes here
illegally is not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is not
subject to American jurisdiction, but rather came here illegally. I've
introduced legislation to end birthright citizenship through legislation. What President
(03:31):
Trump has done is he's tried to do it a
third way, which is through an executive order. That's going
to be a harder hurdle to get to get through,
but he's trying to do it, and on the policy grounds,
he is exactly right. So what happened is in this case,
there was a lawsuit challenging President Trump's executive order purporting
(03:51):
to eliminate birthright citizenship, and the district judge issued a
nationwide injunction, a so called universal injunctions. So ordinarily, courts
have jurisdiction, have authority over the parties in front of them.
So if you have two parties in a car wreck
and they crash into each other and one party sues
(04:11):
the other, the court has jurisdiction over those two parties
to say, Okay, you're at fault, you pay for the
repairs and the medical bills of the person injured. That
is called under the Constitution, Article three of the Constitution.
Courts are given jurisdiction over cases and controversies, so actual
disputes between real people. What the district judge did in
(04:32):
this case is issued an injunction prohibiting Donald Trump and
prohibiting the entire federal government from enforcing the birthright citizenship
executive order against anybody, not just against the parties in
front of the court, but three hundred and thirty million
people in this country. The Court said, you cannot enforce
this against anybody. It is a universal injunction. That is
(04:56):
something that for the first one hundred plus years of
our country never occurred. Universal injunctions began occurring more frequently,
but not that much more frequently. There have been over
forty universal injunctions issued against Donald Trump in the first
five months of his presidency. Now, now, how does that
(05:16):
compare to the historical record. There are more universal injunctions
that have been issued against President Trump than were issued
in the entire twentieth century from nineteen hundred to two thousand.
There have been more in the last five months than
there were in those one hundred years. There have been
(05:38):
more universal injunctions issued against President Trump. Then we're issued
against all eight years of George W. Bush, all eight
years of Barack Obama, and all four years of Joe Biden.
Five months Trump has even more than that. It has
been an abuse of power. And as you noted, I
have been very vocal. I've been laying out the case.
(05:58):
I chaired Judiciary Committee hearing focused on exactly this abuse
of power. This is the next wave of lawfare. During
the last four years, we saw Democrat prosecutors indicting Donald Trump,
that was using the courts to attack their political enemy
to try to stop the voters from reelecting Donald Trump.
That didn't work, They failed once President Trump was reelected.
(06:21):
This was the next iteration of lawfair. Get Democrat attorneys general,
get left wing radical groups to go seek out radical
district judges put on the bench by Joe Biden and
Barack Obama to issue injunctions and shut down the entire
Trump agenda because and understand, these Democrat attorneys general, they
(06:43):
don't believe in democracy. They don't believe the voters have
a right to decide this is what we want and
to elect someone to carry it out. Instead, they want
courts to stand in the way. Well, you and I
talked about an earlier podcast what I thought was likely
here and what I predict did on this podcast. As
I said, I think the Supreme Court is going to
(07:04):
reign in universal injunctions. The Supreme Court is going to
make clear this is an abuse of power. And so
I was really optimistic because in terms of the tools
we have to reign in universal injunctions. The Supreme Court
acting is by far the best. Well. On Friday they
did their decision was fantastic. It was six'. Three the
(07:24):
decision was written By Amy Cony. Barrett it is the
most important opinion she has written in her tenure on The,
court and it is very. Strong it makes clear that
individual district judges do not have the legal, authority they
don't have the jurisdiction to issue universal. Injunctions that is
a massive victory for the rule of law and it
(07:46):
is a massive blow against the lawfare that the radical
left is waging Against President.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Trump and, finally the other one that you mentioned, Earlier
this one for me is so important for parental rights
and getting parnal rights back in our public schools because
there was a massive fight where parents were saying we
should be able to opt our kids out of THIS
lgbtq plus. Curriculum there was a, lawsuit it went To Supreme.
(08:15):
Court it favored on the side of parents six to.
Three this was massive for so many. Parents they're concerned
about their kids being indoctrinated by the radical.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Left, yeah this case arose out Of Montgomery county In,
maryland And Montgomery county has a very diverse, population and
The Montgomery county School, board, unfortunately is one of the
more woke school boards In. America and so they put
in place an AGGRESSIVE lgbtq curriculum and they mandated. It
(08:50):
and we're not talking high, schoolers we're talking young, kids
kids kindergarten through fifth. Grade and they pushed content that
that was PUSHING lgbt, content that was pushing transgender content
to little, children, five, six, seven eight year, olds and
(09:11):
a group of parents, said, hey this is. Wrong a
group of parents and they Included, catholics they Included. Muslims they,
said we don't want our school, indoctrinating brainwashing our kids
that you think it's great to be, gay to be,
transgender you think it's, great like if you're a boy
one day you think you're a. Girl it's not the
(09:33):
school's job to tell our five year olds that's your.
Ideology and so they sued and and the school board, said,
basically go jump in a. Lake we're going to indoctrinate your,
kids and you have no. Right and on, appeal the
(09:53):
well the District court and The court Of appeals both
both ruled against the parents and said they had no.
Right and it went to The Supreme, court and The
Supreme court six 'y three upheld the right of the
parents to opt out of that. Curriculum and the court, said,
quote because it has long recognized the rights of parents
(10:13):
to direct the religious upbringing of their. Children the court
concluded that the parents are likely to succeed on the
claim that the board's policies unconstitutionally burdens their religious. Exercise
Justice alito wrote the majority opinion for a six to three,
court and they said that parents' rights are violated when
(10:36):
the government quote substantially interferes with their children's religious. Development
and so this is a great protection for parental. Rights,
look parents ought to be in charge of what is
being taught to their. Kids it's also a great victory
for religious. Liberty if a parent wants to teach kids
that to embrace a radical, agenda whether or not ELG
(11:00):
gbt or anything, else a parent has a right to do.
That but the school system should not be in doctrining,
children and particularly young children. Kindergarteners is what this case was.
About and so this is a big, victory three big
victories for our constitutional rights for common, sense and all
three of them were six to three out of The Supreme.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Court, now if you want to hear the rest of this,
conversation you can go back and listen to the full
podcast from earlier this.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Week now onto story number two, there.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Because it's, huge because that's not the only thing that
was transformative in this. Bill something you've been champing, NOW
i would say it's part of the legacy of your
career is school. Choice and there's some big stuff in
this bill also on school.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Choice so school choice has been my passion for thirty.
Years i've been very active of the school choice. Movement
in twenty, seventeen when we did the First trump tax,
CUT i authored the legislation that expanded college five twenty
nine savings, lands so now parents can save FOR k
through twelve. Education we got that, through it, passed and
(12:05):
it was at the time the most far reaching federal
school choice legislation that had ever. Passed and there are
millions of kids now whose parents save FOR k through
twelve education using five twenty. Nines this time, AROUND i
took five twenty nine AND i expanded. THEM i expanded
what you can spend them for AND i raised the.
Cap it used to be you could spend ten thousand
(12:27):
a year from the. Account now you can spend twenty
thousand a. Year but that actually is the smallest piece
on school. Choice that would be huge in any other.
Year but what we got in this year is the
federal government will now grant a federal tax credit dollar
for dollar for every taxpayer up to seventeen hundred. Dollars
(12:51):
so ben you pay taxes every, year you pay more
than seventeen hundred dollars in taxes when this goes into,
effect if you write a seven, Yes so if you
write a seventeen hundred dollars check to a scholarship granting
organization In, texas you will get a seventeen hundred dollars
credit on your. Taxes in other, words it's dollar for.
(13:12):
Dollar it disappears from your tax. Liability what this will
do is this is going to unleash billions and billions
of dollars of new scholarships FOR k through twelve education
in the. States and the way it, operates every state
has to choose to opt, In So texas will opt.
IN i suspect a number of blue states will not
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opt in because the teachers' unions will not want them.
To they will not want scholarships for kids to be
able to go to the school of their. Choice and
the way we wrote the, rule the state has the,
law the state has to opt, in But texas will
have scholarship granting, organizations and any taxpayer can write a
check up to seventeen hundred dollars a year and get
(13:57):
a full tax credit on their irs what they. Owe
that is going to result in millions of kids Across,
america many of whom are stuck in failing. Schools schools
they're not learning to, read they're not learning to, write
schools where there's violence, there drug, Dealers schools where their
future is really in. Peril and they're suddenly going to
(14:19):
have the ability to get a, scholarship to go to
the school of their, choice to get a real, education
to get a better, education to be, safe to not
be subject to. Violence this IS i think school choice
is the civil rights issue of the twenty first. Century
this has never happened. Before AND i got to tell,
YOU i fought tooth and. Nail this almost got stripped
(14:42):
out of the bill about five different, times AND i
made Clear i'll shut this whole bill down if we
don't get school choice in.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
There AND.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I could not be more excited about about any provision
in this bill than the impact school choice is going
to have for the next next.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Generation so on these two, issues school choice and also
the savings, accounts when does that start to become a reality?
Timeline there's a lot of people that, say, hey we
pass bills and then things that were supposed to happen don't.
Happen they get undone because there's a new president that comes,
in or you see A senate flip or The house,
flip whatever it may. Be so how sure are we
(15:23):
that we are going to see the fruits of this
fight and this.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Labor, yeah these are both gonna, happen and they're both
gonna happen in the next. Year for The trump, ACCOUNTS
i wrote into it an effective date of one year
from the, Signing so if it's signed On july, fourth
these will start On july, fourth twenty twenty, six our
nation's two hundred and fiftieth. Anniversary AND i think that's
something particularly. Fantastic i'm quite Confident President trump will make
(15:48):
a big deal about the facts that these accounts are
being opened on our nation's, birthday or if it ends
up being signed at a slightly different date somewhere honor
about our nation's, birthday a great. Celebration same. Thing the
tax deductions are going to, START i believe next year
on the on the school choice tax. Deductions so these will.
Happen they will happen. Quickly now one question people are,
(16:12):
asking what happens. Next The senate passed, this what happens, Next,
well we sent the whole bill to The. House they
have two. Choices number, one so they're coming back in.
Session they can take it up and pass. It and
if they pass the bill that we just, passed it
will go to the president and he can sign. It
(16:33):
and he said he wants to sign it On july
fourth of this. Year so if The house passes what
The senate, passed that'll be the end of the process
of The president will sign. It the second thing they
can do is they can, Say, okay we passed a,
bill The senate passed a different. Bill we need to
work out the differences between. Them and that's that's called
(16:54):
going to. Conference and The house could insist we go to.
CONFERENCE i don't know which one they're going to. Do
there are some real differences in The senate right. Now
in The house right, now they're having. Fights there's some
aspects of The senate bill that are really. Good there's
some aspects of The senate bill that are not, great
and so it's gonna be a question of what can
get two hundred eighteen votes in The. HOUSE i know
(17:16):
The speaker wants if he can to take up and
pass The senate bill and just send it to The.
President that's what The president wants, also so that may.
Happen if that doesn't, happen then we'll go to, conference
AND i think conference would take the month Of july
for us to work out the. Differences and my guess
is we would pass the final bill at the end Of,
(17:38):
july right Before.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
August so this is one of those big moments THAT
i think we should all.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Enjoy elections have.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Consequences this time it was for conservative values and for
kids to have a better future in education or savings,
accounts and for tax cuts so That americans that work
hard can keep more of their own. Money on a
scout of one to, ten and nothing's, perfect how proud
of you or of you are you with this? Bill
(18:07):
there's a lot of people that are, saying, well there's,
this or's, that or does this Look, yeah there were some,
compromises no doubt that had to be. Made you got a,
tight you, know a very very slim majority that you're
dealing with. Here but, overall how happy are you with
what The american people are now?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
GETTING i think there are many very very good things
in this. BILL i wish we cut spending significantly. MORE
i was fighting hard to cut spending significantly. MORE i
went To President trump with three trillion dollars of spending
cuts we could. DO i was urging my. COLLEAGUES i
prevailed in some of those, arguments but not all of.
THEM i wish we'd shown more fiscal. Restraint that would
(18:45):
have made me much. Happier look at six am On,
tuesday we were near the end of the, amendments and
the question was could we get to Fifty? Republicans they're
fifty three in The senate. Now Susan collins was a.
No she is the most liberal of The. Republicans she
(19:06):
did not like some of the reforms On. Medicaid The
democrats and the press are saying we slashed. Medicaid that
is a. Lie we actually are spending more unmedicaid every single.
Year what we did was slightly decrease the rate of
growth Of medicaid in the, future and in, particular we
increased efforts to fight, waste, fraud and abuse and to
(19:27):
remove people from The medicaid roles who don't. Qualify and
we also put in place a work, requirement which is
really important AND i think actually benefits. People if you
look at the history of work requirements for federal welfare,
benefits it ends up helping the recipients by getting them
back into the, workforce which is ultimately much better for
(19:48):
them in their. Families but, Anyway Susan collins did not
like the reductions in spending on that, side so she voted.
No Tom, tillis A republican From North, carolina also did
not like The medicaid changes and so he voted. No
and so with fifty Three, republicans we could only lose.
(20:12):
Three the two other votes that were in play Were
Lisa murkowski And Rand paul and they were both between
six am and. Noon nobody knew which one which one
(20:32):
we would get if, either but if we didn't get
one of, them this bill was going down because if
Four senators voted against, it Four, republicans we were at
forty nine and it. Failed so the consequence of which
road we went down was really consequential Because, lisa After,
susan is the most liberal to Moderate republican in the,
(20:53):
conference and So lisa was bargaining for a bunch more.
Spending she wanted a ton of, spending particularly At, alaska
and that was the price of her, vote and she
was going back and. Forth, rand on the other, Hand
rand was always going to be, no always going to
be a. No And rand said at the end he
would be a yes if the debt ceiling was not.
(21:16):
Extended we extend the debt ceiling Throughout President trump's term
in this. Bill that was a very high priority For President.
Trump rand said he would vote yes if we shortened
the extension of the debt ceiling To september. Thirtieth so
we just did a couple of months of the debt. Ceiling,
now the consequence of that would mean we'd have to
come back In september thirtieth and address the debt ceiling,
(21:39):
again and that would mean we'd probably have to negotiate
with The democrats and make a lousy deal with With Chuck.
Schumer but between six am and, noon none of us
knew which direction they were going to. Go were they
going to go the direction Of Lisa rakowski or were
they going to go the direction Of Rand. Paul at
the end of the, Day lisa's the one who got to,
(22:00):
Yes but it was literally up till the moment she
cast her, vote we didn't know for. Sure and she
ended Up she ended up increasing The Rural Hospital fund
by fifty billion. Dollars she ended up dropping the The
medicaid penalty for states that that that that are are
(22:22):
giving medicaid illegal. Immigrants she ended up delaying the work
requirements for food stamps For, alaska and the cost of
that was billions and billions of. Dollars, interestingly If rand
had said yes instead Of, lisa we would have ended
(22:43):
up spending much. Less but the consequence Of rand being
a no is that it Drove it Made lisa the swing,
vote and the price of her vote was billions and
probably hundreds of billions more in. Spending and so you,
KNOW i, mean that's where votes have.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Consequences as, Before if you want to hear the rest
of this conversation on this, topic you can go back
and down the podcasts from earlier this week to hear
the entire. THING i want to get back to the
big story number three of the. Week you may have.
Missed you're taking a break with a fam hanging. Out
maybe you're wanting to watch a. Movie we have got
(23:26):
an epic list we're going through right. Now we thought
we'd take a little break from all the politics and
talk about a list that came out of apparently like
the best movies of all. Time all these actors In,
hollywood Elade us voted on it In New York. Times put,
together the list is incredibly, sad a lot of an Anti,
american anti family and so we're adding some.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Great movies to your.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
List if you don't know this About Center, cruz huge movie,
guy and you love still going to the big screen
seeing them when they come, OUT i think THAT'S i
love doing that as.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
WELL i think it's a.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Blast so let's get back to this list of some
of the incredible movies out.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
There all, Right so we've done. Twenty we have ten
more to do of movies that came out in the
twenty first. Century in twenty, sixteen two movies in, particular number.
One Hidden, figures great, movie terrific. MOVIE i took my,
wife my, daughters my mom to see true story of
The African american women mathematician who were foundational TO Nasa
(24:24):
going to The. Moon it's an amazing story And, ben
as you, know my mom was also a mathematician at
the dawn of the computer. Age Hidden figures begins With
sputnik being launched in the space race being. Started my
mom in the nineteen fifties worked at The. Smithsonian one
of her first projects was helping to compute the orbit Of.
(24:45):
Sputnik and, actually in honor of this, MOVIE i introduced
legislation that resulted in the street where THE nasa headquarters
is IN dc being changed To Hidden figures way to
honor Those African americans women mathematician who were foundational in
our going to The. Moon it's not On hollywood's list,
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either but it's a great movie and it's a fabulous family.
Movie another great family, Movie La La land same. Year
it's a, musical it's, fun it's, light it's About hollywood it.
Is it's a terrific, movie and yet it's nowhere on their.
List twenty, seventeen twenty. SEVENTEEN a great, Movie The Darkest
Hour Winston churchill in the middle Of World WAR. Ii
(25:30):
Powerful Gary oldham does a terrific portrayal Of. Churchill highly recommend.
It twenty Eighteen Black. Panther Black panther was a terrific.
Movie it's a comic book. Movie but there's a reason
so many people go go light go see them because
they're really. Good twenty Nineteen once upon A time In
hollywood Another Quentin. TARANTINO i thought it was, terrific loved.
(25:52):
It Brad pitt was in it as. Well Brad pitt
When tarantino is directing him is really really. Good you
then get on to twenty twenty. Two Top Gun. Maverick
just a great fun, movie action. Film fun to go
to the theater and see the jets rocketing through the
sky fighting the bad. GUYS i will note that No
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hollywood theater will now Make Communist china the bad, guys
because they all want to sell movies In, china so
the bad guys are always some made up fictional. Plays
onto twenty twenty. Three two movies in twenty twenty three
on the.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
List.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oppenheimer oppenheimer was, terrific true story, powerful, interesting really well.
Done same Year killers of The Flower moon another true,
story really, powerful well.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Done all, right full the.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
SCORTURE i missed that movie apparently when it came. Out
what's it? About because Now i'm.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Interested So Martin scorsese did. It and it's based on
a true. Story so it's set In oklahoma in the
nineteen twenties and it focuses on a series of murder
Of Osage indians after oil is discovered on their tribal.
Lands and it's got a fabulous. Cast Leonardo DiCaprio's in,
(27:10):
It robert De niro is in. It and, look it's.
Brutal it doesn't paint a pretty insanitized picture of, history
but it. Is our history has moments of, brutality moments
of evil and. Oppression And scorsese can tell a story
as well as anyone in the.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Business, Awesome i'm gonna have to grab that movie and
check it. Out keep.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Going, well that takes us to twenty Eight and for
the last TWO i, said you, KNOW i, figured all,
right who ought to decide what are really good? Movies
AND i came up with a crazy, idea how about
the ticket? Buyers and SO i just pulled what are
the top ten highest grossing films from twenty to twenty twenty?
(27:54):
Five any idea with the number one film of the
last twenty five years has been in terms of box office, dollars.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And god's a hard. ONE i have no clue go for.
It i'm.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Ready so number one Is avatar two thousand and nine
and it brought in two point nine billion. Dollars And,
Avatar i'm gonna Put avatar in my list because it's
a great. Film it really was novel how it sort
of stretched but brought you into an entirely different, world
and the effects were. Fantastic it was a well done.
(28:27):
Story the number two grossing film of the last twenty
five years Was Avengers endgame and that brought in two
point eight billion. Dollars i'm gonna include both of those
as the final two on my. List they're the top
two grossing. Films they're. FANTASTIC i like most comic book,
movies BUT i do Think Avengers endgame was was really really.
(28:48):
Good and it says something if you look at the
list of top, ten none of the top ten grossing
films are On hollywood's. List you have number three As
Avatar The way of The. Water number four Is Star
wars episode, Seven The Force. Awakens number five As Avengers Affinity.
War number six Is Spider Man No Way, home WHICH
(29:08):
i thought was the best of The Spider man. Movies
number seven Was Nieja. TI i don't know that movie Maybe,
CHINESE i JUST i don't know that. Movie number eight
Was Inside Out. Too number nine Was Jurassic, world and
number ten Was The Lion king in twenty. Nineteen it
says something when you have a product and the people
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making the product don't like the product that people like
and are. Buying there's a real disconnect. There you. Know
you go back to That New York times. List most
of the movies on the list nobody has seen and
nobody wants to. See and that really is. Sad there
used to be a. Time look what's fun about going
(29:52):
to the? Movies you'll notice. Themes SO i like true.
STORIES i like war. MOVIES i like gangster, movies things
Like godfather And. SCARFACE i like, WESTERNS i like. COMEDIES
i like some. Musicals but BUT i like a. Story
WHEN i go to the to the, MOVIES i want
(30:14):
to tell me a. Story it can be a sad.
Story it can be a funny. Story it can bring
me in on an. Adventure you know classic MOVIES i
grew up, with Like Indiana, jones like like it can
be you Know Star, wars the Whole Star wars, series
The hero's. Journey, actually, Bet i'm going to tay something really.
Funny really good buddy of mine THAT i went to
(30:39):
high school, with you bet Him joel's's, name great friend
of mine came came to our place in D c last.
Weekend he and his family were in town and he, Said,
hey CAN i crash at your? PLACE i said, Sure
and he AND i have gone to a lot of movies,
together and he's a Huge Star wars. Buff and so
he went to The Star WARS i guess. Museum and
(31:02):
WHEN i get back to MY dc, apartment he's replaced
my sheets With Star wars sheets and A Star wars
comforter In Star wars pillowcases and it looks like a
nine year old boys. Room AND i just wrap up.
Laughing and then actually it was right AFTER i had
The Tucker carlson. Interview that was a lot of. Fireworks
(31:23):
so he Bought Tucker carlson's book and he rested it
on the, pillowcase SO i was doubled over laughing WHEN
i walked in walked In monday morning to the apartment
and saw my bedroom as.
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Speaker 3 (31:51):
Morning
Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz week in Review,
Ben Ferguson with you, and I hope you were having
a fabulous Fourth of July weekend with your family being
safe on the road. If you're traveling as well. We've
got some major stories for you that you may have
missed this Fourth of July week First up, major victories
coming from the Supreme Court helping parents and also making
(00:23):
sure that you get to make decisions on what happens
when your kids go to schools. I'll have those details
in a moment. Also, legislation on school choice made it
into the big Beautiful Bill. There were many that wanted
to get rid of it, and we'll give you the
story behind how we kept it in the bill. And finally,
for a little fun for the fourth of July weekend,
(00:46):
the last ten great movies of the twenty first century,
given to you by none than Center Ted Cruz. It's
the weekend review and it starts right now. All right,
So let's start with universal injunctions and the Trump the
Cossack case. This is also, by the way, something that
you share the subcommittee hearing on that very issue earlier
(01:09):
this month. So explain why this is such an important
issue for everyone listening.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, this was a case challenging President Trump's executive order
on birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship is the law that says
that a baby born in America is a US citizen,
even if that baby's parents are illegally, even if they
came illegally precisely to have that baby in America, Nonetheless,
that baby is a US citizen. As a policy matter,
(01:39):
I think that is a very foolish policy. It is
a policy that incentivizes illegal immigration. You see people, I
spend a lot of time at the southern border. I
go go out on midnight patrols with the border patrol agents.
We see everyday pregnant women coming across the border illegally,
coming across being brought in by human traffickers with the
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express purpose of coming here to have their baby in America.
Because that baby then becomes an anchor baby, that baby
becomes a US citizen. That doesn't make any sense. And
by the way, most of the other countries on Earth
don't have that policy. If you sneak into another country illegally,
most other countries don't make them a citizen of that country.
It is an accident of American history that our law
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has done that, and so for more than a decade
I have advocating for ending birthright citizenship. Now, Ben there
is an open legal debate about how you can end
birthright citizenship. There are some legal scholars who argue it
can only be done through a constitutional amendment. And the
reason is part of the predicate for birthright citizenship is
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the language of the Fourteenth Amendment that talks about granting
citizenship to people born in America. Now, there's a phrase
in the Fourteenth Amendment which is subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
and legal skis argue back and forth. Some say you
can only change birthright citizenship through a constitutional amendment. If
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that's the case, we should have an amendment because it's
a policy that is foolish. Others say Congress can pass
legislation to end birthright citizenship because someone who comes here
illegally is not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is not
subject to American jurisdiction, but rather came here illegally. I've
introduced legislation to end birthright citizenship through legislation. What President
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Trump has done is he's tried to do it a
third way, which is through an executive order. That's going
to be a harder hurdle to get to get through,
but he's trying to do it, and on the policy grounds,
he is exactly right. So what happened is in this case,
there was a lawsuit challenging President Trump's executive order purporting
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to eliminate birthright citizenship, and the district judge issued a
nationwide injunction, a so called universal injunctions. So ordinarily, courts
have jurisdiction, have authority over the parties in front of them.
So if you have two parties in a car wreck
and they crash into each other and one party sues
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the other, the court has jurisdiction over those two parties
to say, Okay, you're at fault, you pay for the
repairs and the medical bills of the person injured. That
is called under the Constitution, Article three of the Constitution.
Courts are given jurisdiction over cases and controversies, so actual
disputes between real people. What the district judge did in
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this case is issued an injunction prohibiting Donald Trump and
prohibiting the entire federal government from enforcing the birthright citizenship
executive order against anybody, not just against the parties in
front of the court, but three hundred and thirty million
people in this country. The Court said, you cannot enforce
this against anybody. It is a universal injunction. That is
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something that for the first one hundred plus years of
our country never occurred. Universal injunctions began occurring more frequently,
but not that much more frequently. There have been over
forty universal injunctions issued against Donald Trump in the first
five months of his presidency. Now, now, how does that
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compare to the historical record. There are more universal injunctions
that have been issued against President Trump than were issued
in the entire twentieth century from nineteen hundred to two thousand.
There have been more in the last five months than
there were in those one hundred years. There have been
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more universal injunctions issued against President Trump. Then we're issued
against all eight years of George W. Bush, all eight
years of Barack Obama, and all four years of Joe Biden.
Five months Trump has even more than that. It has
been an abuse of power. And as you noted, I
have been very vocal. I've been laying out the case.
(05:58):
I chaired Judiciary Committee hearing focused on exactly this abuse
of power. This is the next wave of lawfare. During
the last four years, we saw Democrat prosecutors indicting Donald Trump,
that was using the courts to attack their political enemy
to try to stop the voters from reelecting Donald Trump.
That didn't work, They failed once President Trump was reelected.
(06:21):
This was the next iteration of lawfair. Get Democrat attorneys general,
get left wing radical groups to go seek out radical
district judges put on the bench by Joe Biden and
Barack Obama to issue injunctions and shut down the entire
Trump agenda because and understand, these Democrat attorneys general, they
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don't believe in democracy. They don't believe the voters have
a right to decide this is what we want and
to elect someone to carry it out. Instead, they want
courts to stand in the way. Well, you and I
talked about an earlier podcast what I thought was likely
here and what I predict did on this podcast. As
I said, I think the Supreme Court is going to
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reign in universal injunctions. The Supreme Court is going to
make clear this is an abuse of power. And so
I was really optimistic because in terms of the tools
we have to reign in universal injunctions. The Supreme Court
acting is by far the best. Well. On Friday they
did their decision was fantastic. It was six'. Three the
(07:24):
decision was written By Amy Cony. Barrett it is the
most important opinion she has written in her tenure on The,
court and it is very. Strong it makes clear that
individual district judges do not have the legal, authority they
don't have the jurisdiction to issue universal. Injunctions that is
a massive victory for the rule of law and it
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is a massive blow against the lawfare that the radical
left is waging Against President.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Trump and, finally the other one that you mentioned, Earlier
this one for me is so important for parental rights
and getting parnal rights back in our public schools because
there was a massive fight where parents were saying we
should be able to opt our kids out of THIS
lgbtq plus. Curriculum there was a, lawsuit it went To Supreme.
(08:15):
Court it favored on the side of parents six to.
Three this was massive for so many. Parents they're concerned
about their kids being indoctrinated by the radical.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Left, yeah this case arose out Of Montgomery county In,
maryland And Montgomery county has a very diverse, population and
The Montgomery county School, board, unfortunately is one of the
more woke school boards In. America and so they put
in place an AGGRESSIVE lgbtq curriculum and they mandated. It
(08:50):
and we're not talking high, schoolers we're talking young, kids
kids kindergarten through fifth. Grade and they pushed content that
that was PUSHING lgbt, content that was pushing transgender content
to little, children, five, six, seven eight year, olds and
(09:11):
a group of parents, said, hey this is. Wrong a
group of parents and they Included, catholics they Included. Muslims they,
said we don't want our school, indoctrinating brainwashing our kids
that you think it's great to be, gay to be,
transgender you think it's, great like if you're a boy
one day you think you're a. Girl it's not the
(09:33):
school's job to tell our five year olds that's your.
Ideology and so they sued and and the school board, said,
basically go jump in a. Lake we're going to indoctrinate your,
kids and you have no. Right and on, appeal the
(09:53):
well the District court and The court Of appeals both
both ruled against the parents and said they had no.
Right and it went to The Supreme, court and The
Supreme court six 'y three upheld the right of the
parents to opt out of that. Curriculum and the court, said,
quote because it has long recognized the rights of parents
(10:13):
to direct the religious upbringing of their. Children the court
concluded that the parents are likely to succeed on the
claim that the board's policies unconstitutionally burdens their religious. Exercise
Justice alito wrote the majority opinion for a six to three,
court and they said that parents' rights are violated when
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the government quote substantially interferes with their children's religious. Development
and so this is a great protection for parental. Rights,
look parents ought to be in charge of what is
being taught to their. Kids it's also a great victory
for religious. Liberty if a parent wants to teach kids
that to embrace a radical, agenda whether or not ELG
(11:00):
gbt or anything, else a parent has a right to do.
That but the school system should not be in doctrining,
children and particularly young children. Kindergarteners is what this case was.
About and so this is a big, victory three big
victories for our constitutional rights for common, sense and all
three of them were six to three out of The Supreme.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Court, now if you want to hear the rest of this,
conversation you can go back and listen to the full
podcast from earlier this.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Week now onto story number two, there.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Because it's, huge because that's not the only thing that
was transformative in this. Bill something you've been champing, NOW
i would say it's part of the legacy of your
career is school. Choice and there's some big stuff in
this bill also on school.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Choice so school choice has been my passion for thirty.
Years i've been very active of the school choice. Movement
in twenty, seventeen when we did the First trump tax,
CUT i authored the legislation that expanded college five twenty
nine savings, lands so now parents can save FOR k
through twelve. Education we got that, through it, passed and
(12:05):
it was at the time the most far reaching federal
school choice legislation that had ever. Passed and there are
millions of kids now whose parents save FOR k through
twelve education using five twenty. Nines this time, AROUND i
took five twenty nine AND i expanded. THEM i expanded
what you can spend them for AND i raised the.
Cap it used to be you could spend ten thousand
(12:27):
a year from the. Account now you can spend twenty
thousand a. Year but that actually is the smallest piece
on school. Choice that would be huge in any other.
Year but what we got in this year is the
federal government will now grant a federal tax credit dollar
for dollar for every taxpayer up to seventeen hundred. Dollars
(12:51):
so ben you pay taxes every, year you pay more
than seventeen hundred dollars in taxes when this goes into,
effect if you write a seven, Yes so if you
write a seventeen hundred dollars check to a scholarship granting
organization In, texas you will get a seventeen hundred dollars
credit on your. Taxes in other, words it's dollar for.
(13:12):
Dollar it disappears from your tax. Liability what this will
do is this is going to unleash billions and billions
of dollars of new scholarships FOR k through twelve education
in the. States and the way it, operates every state
has to choose to opt, In So texas will opt.
IN i suspect a number of blue states will not
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opt in because the teachers' unions will not want them.
To they will not want scholarships for kids to be
able to go to the school of their. Choice and
the way we wrote the, rule the state has the,
law the state has to opt, in But texas will
have scholarship granting, organizations and any taxpayer can write a
check up to seventeen hundred dollars a year and get
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a full tax credit on their irs what they. Owe
that is going to result in millions of kids Across,
america many of whom are stuck in failing. Schools schools
they're not learning to, read they're not learning to, write
schools where there's violence, there drug, Dealers schools where their
future is really in. Peril and they're suddenly going to
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have the ability to get a, scholarship to go to
the school of their, choice to get a real, education
to get a better, education to be, safe to not
be subject to. Violence this IS i think school choice
is the civil rights issue of the twenty first. Century
this has never happened. Before AND i got to tell,
YOU i fought tooth and. Nail this almost got stripped
(14:42):
out of the bill about five different, times AND i
made Clear i'll shut this whole bill down if we
don't get school choice in.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
There AND.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I could not be more excited about about any provision
in this bill than the impact school choice is going
to have for the next next.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Generation so on these two, issues school choice and also
the savings, accounts when does that start to become a reality?
Timeline there's a lot of people that, say, hey we
pass bills and then things that were supposed to happen don't.
Happen they get undone because there's a new president that comes,
in or you see A senate flip or The house,
flip whatever it may. Be so how sure are we
(15:23):
that we are going to see the fruits of this
fight and this.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Labor, yeah these are both gonna, happen and they're both
gonna happen in the next. Year for The trump, ACCOUNTS
i wrote into it an effective date of one year
from the, Signing so if it's signed On july, fourth
these will start On july, fourth twenty twenty, six our
nation's two hundred and fiftieth. Anniversary AND i think that's
something particularly. Fantastic i'm quite Confident President trump will make
(15:48):
a big deal about the facts that these accounts are
being opened on our nation's, birthday or if it ends
up being signed at a slightly different date somewhere honor
about our nation's, birthday a great. Celebration same. Thing the
tax deductions are going to, START i believe next year
on the on the school choice tax. Deductions so these will.
Happen they will happen. Quickly now one question people are,
(16:12):
asking what happens. Next The senate passed, this what happens, Next,
well we sent the whole bill to The. House they
have two. Choices number, one so they're coming back in.
Session they can take it up and pass. It and
if they pass the bill that we just, passed it
will go to the president and he can sign. It
(16:33):
and he said he wants to sign it On july
fourth of this. Year so if The house passes what
The senate, passed that'll be the end of the process
of The president will sign. It the second thing they
can do is they can, Say, okay we passed a,
bill The senate passed a different. Bill we need to
work out the differences between. Them and that's that's called
(16:54):
going to. Conference and The house could insist we go to.
CONFERENCE i don't know which one they're going to. Do
there are some real differences in The senate right. Now
in The house right, now they're having. Fights there's some
aspects of The senate bill that are really. Good there's
some aspects of The senate bill that are not, great
and so it's gonna be a question of what can
get two hundred eighteen votes in The. HOUSE i know
(17:16):
The speaker wants if he can to take up and
pass The senate bill and just send it to The.
President that's what The president wants, also so that may.
Happen if that doesn't, happen then we'll go to, conference
AND i think conference would take the month Of july
for us to work out the. Differences and my guess
is we would pass the final bill at the end Of,
(17:38):
july right Before.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
August so this is one of those big moments THAT
i think we should all.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Enjoy elections have.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Consequences this time it was for conservative values and for
kids to have a better future in education or savings,
accounts and for tax cuts so That americans that work
hard can keep more of their own. Money on a
scout of one to, ten and nothing's, perfect how proud
of you or of you are you with this? Bill
(18:07):
there's a lot of people that are, saying, well there's,
this or's, that or does this Look, yeah there were some,
compromises no doubt that had to be. Made you got a,
tight you, know a very very slim majority that you're
dealing with. Here but, overall how happy are you with
what The american people are now?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
GETTING i think there are many very very good things
in this. BILL i wish we cut spending significantly. MORE
i was fighting hard to cut spending significantly. MORE i
went To President trump with three trillion dollars of spending
cuts we could. DO i was urging my. COLLEAGUES i
prevailed in some of those, arguments but not all of.
THEM i wish we'd shown more fiscal. Restraint that would
(18:45):
have made me much. Happier look at six am On,
tuesday we were near the end of the, amendments and
the question was could we get to Fifty? Republicans they're
fifty three in The senate. Now Susan collins was a.
No she is the most liberal of The. Republicans she
(19:06):
did not like some of the reforms On. Medicaid The
democrats and the press are saying we slashed. Medicaid that
is a. Lie we actually are spending more unmedicaid every single.
Year what we did was slightly decrease the rate of
growth Of medicaid in the, future and in, particular we
increased efforts to fight, waste, fraud and abuse and to
(19:27):
remove people from The medicaid roles who don't. Qualify and
we also put in place a work, requirement which is
really important AND i think actually benefits. People if you
look at the history of work requirements for federal welfare,
benefits it ends up helping the recipients by getting them
back into the, workforce which is ultimately much better for
(19:48):
them in their. Families but, Anyway Susan collins did not
like the reductions in spending on that, side so she voted.
No Tom, tillis A republican From North, carolina also did
not like The medicaid changes and so he voted. No
and so with fifty Three, republicans we could only lose.
(20:12):
Three the two other votes that were in play Were
Lisa murkowski And Rand paul and they were both between
six am and. Noon nobody knew which one which one
(20:32):
we would get if, either but if we didn't get
one of, them this bill was going down because if
Four senators voted against, it Four, republicans we were at
forty nine and it. Failed so the consequence of which
road we went down was really consequential Because, lisa After,
susan is the most liberal to Moderate republican in the,
(20:53):
conference and So lisa was bargaining for a bunch more.
Spending she wanted a ton of, spending particularly At, alaska
and that was the price of her, vote and she
was going back and. Forth, rand on the other, Hand
rand was always going to be, no always going to
be a. No And rand said at the end he
would be a yes if the debt ceiling was not.
(21:16):
Extended we extend the debt ceiling Throughout President trump's term
in this. Bill that was a very high priority For President.
Trump rand said he would vote yes if we shortened
the extension of the debt ceiling To september. Thirtieth so
we just did a couple of months of the debt. Ceiling,
now the consequence of that would mean we'd have to
come back In september thirtieth and address the debt ceiling,
(21:39):
again and that would mean we'd probably have to negotiate
with The democrats and make a lousy deal with With Chuck.
Schumer but between six am and, noon none of us
knew which direction they were going to. Go were they
going to go the direction Of Lisa rakowski or were
they going to go the direction Of Rand. Paul at
the end of the, Day lisa's the one who got to,
(22:00):
Yes but it was literally up till the moment she
cast her, vote we didn't know for. Sure and she
ended Up she ended up increasing The Rural Hospital fund
by fifty billion. Dollars she ended up dropping the The
medicaid penalty for states that that that that are are
(22:22):
giving medicaid illegal. Immigrants she ended up delaying the work
requirements for food stamps For, alaska and the cost of
that was billions and billions of. Dollars, interestingly If rand
had said yes instead Of, lisa we would have ended
(22:43):
up spending much. Less but the consequence Of rand being
a no is that it Drove it Made lisa the swing,
vote and the price of her vote was billions and
probably hundreds of billions more in. Spending and so you,
KNOW i, mean that's where votes have.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Consequences as, Before if you want to hear the rest
of this conversation on this, topic you can go back
and down the podcasts from earlier this week to hear
the entire. THING i want to get back to the
big story number three of the. Week you may have.
Missed you're taking a break with a fam hanging. Out
maybe you're wanting to watch a. Movie we have got
(23:26):
an epic list we're going through right. Now we thought
we'd take a little break from all the politics and
talk about a list that came out of apparently like
the best movies of all. Time all these actors In,
hollywood Elade us voted on it In New York. Times put,
together the list is incredibly, sad a lot of an Anti,
american anti family and so we're adding some.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Great movies to your.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
List if you don't know this About Center, cruz huge movie,
guy and you love still going to the big screen
seeing them when they come, OUT i think THAT'S i
love doing that as.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
WELL i think it's a.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Blast so let's get back to this list of some
of the incredible movies out.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
There all, Right so we've done. Twenty we have ten
more to do of movies that came out in the
twenty first. Century in twenty, sixteen two movies in, particular number.
One Hidden, figures great, movie terrific. MOVIE i took my,
wife my, daughters my mom to see true story of
The African american women mathematician who were foundational TO Nasa
(24:24):
going to The. Moon it's an amazing story And, ben
as you, know my mom was also a mathematician at
the dawn of the computer. Age Hidden figures begins With
sputnik being launched in the space race being. Started my
mom in the nineteen fifties worked at The. Smithsonian one
of her first projects was helping to compute the orbit Of.
(24:45):
Sputnik and, actually in honor of this, MOVIE i introduced
legislation that resulted in the street where THE nasa headquarters
is IN dc being changed To Hidden figures way to
honor Those African americans women mathematician who were foundational in
our going to The. Moon it's not On hollywood's list,
(25:07):
either but it's a great movie and it's a fabulous family.
Movie another great family, Movie La La land same. Year
it's a, musical it's, fun it's, light it's About hollywood it.
Is it's a terrific, movie and yet it's nowhere on their.
List twenty, seventeen twenty. SEVENTEEN a great, Movie The Darkest
Hour Winston churchill in the middle Of World WAR. Ii
(25:30):
Powerful Gary oldham does a terrific portrayal Of. Churchill highly recommend.
It twenty Eighteen Black. Panther Black panther was a terrific.
Movie it's a comic book. Movie but there's a reason
so many people go go light go see them because
they're really. Good twenty Nineteen once upon A time In
hollywood Another Quentin. TARANTINO i thought it was, terrific loved.
(25:52):
It Brad pitt was in it as. Well Brad pitt
When tarantino is directing him is really really. Good you
then get on to twenty twenty. Two Top Gun. Maverick
just a great fun, movie action. Film fun to go
to the theater and see the jets rocketing through the
sky fighting the bad. GUYS i will note that No
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hollywood theater will now Make Communist china the bad, guys
because they all want to sell movies In, china so
the bad guys are always some made up fictional. Plays
onto twenty twenty. Three two movies in twenty twenty three
on the.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
List.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oppenheimer oppenheimer was, terrific true story, powerful, interesting really well.
Done same Year killers of The Flower moon another true,
story really, powerful well.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Done all, right full the.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
SCORTURE i missed that movie apparently when it came. Out
what's it? About because Now i'm.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Interested So Martin scorsese did. It and it's based on
a true. Story so it's set In oklahoma in the
nineteen twenties and it focuses on a series of murder
Of Osage indians after oil is discovered on their tribal.
Lands and it's got a fabulous. Cast Leonardo DiCaprio's in,
(27:10):
It robert De niro is in. It and, look it's.
Brutal it doesn't paint a pretty insanitized picture of, history
but it. Is our history has moments of, brutality moments
of evil and. Oppression And scorsese can tell a story
as well as anyone in the.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Business, Awesome i'm gonna have to grab that movie and
check it. Out keep.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Going, well that takes us to twenty Eight and for
the last TWO i, said you, KNOW i, figured all,
right who ought to decide what are really good? Movies
AND i came up with a crazy, idea how about
the ticket? Buyers and SO i just pulled what are
the top ten highest grossing films from twenty to twenty twenty?
(27:54):
Five any idea with the number one film of the
last twenty five years has been in terms of box office, dollars.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And god's a hard. ONE i have no clue go for.
It i'm.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Ready so number one Is avatar two thousand and nine
and it brought in two point nine billion. Dollars And,
Avatar i'm gonna Put avatar in my list because it's
a great. Film it really was novel how it sort
of stretched but brought you into an entirely different, world
and the effects were. Fantastic it was a well done.
(28:27):
Story the number two grossing film of the last twenty
five years Was Avengers endgame and that brought in two
point eight billion. Dollars i'm gonna include both of those
as the final two on my. List they're the top
two grossing. Films they're. FANTASTIC i like most comic book,
movies BUT i do Think Avengers endgame was was really really.
(28:48):
Good and it says something if you look at the
list of top, ten none of the top ten grossing
films are On hollywood's. List you have number three As
Avatar The way of The. Water number four Is Star
wars episode, Seven The Force. Awakens number five As Avengers Affinity.
War number six Is Spider Man No Way, home WHICH
(29:08):
i thought was the best of The Spider man. Movies
number seven Was Nieja. TI i don't know that movie Maybe,
CHINESE i JUST i don't know that. Movie number eight
Was Inside Out. Too number nine Was Jurassic, world and
number ten Was The Lion king in twenty. Nineteen it
says something when you have a product and the people
(29:30):
making the product don't like the product that people like
and are. Buying there's a real disconnect. There you. Know
you go back to That New York times. List most
of the movies on the list nobody has seen and
nobody wants to. See and that really is. Sad there
used to be a. Time look what's fun about going
(29:52):
to the? Movies you'll notice. Themes SO i like true.
STORIES i like war. MOVIES i like gangster, movies things
Like godfather And. SCARFACE i like, WESTERNS i like. COMEDIES
i like some. Musicals but BUT i like a. Story
WHEN i go to the to the, MOVIES i want
(30:14):
to tell me a. Story it can be a sad.
Story it can be a funny. Story it can bring
me in on an. Adventure you know classic MOVIES i
grew up, with Like Indiana, jones like like it can
be you Know Star, wars the Whole Star wars, series
The hero's. Journey, actually, Bet i'm going to tay something really.
Funny really good buddy of mine THAT i went to
(30:39):
high school, with you bet Him joel's's, name great friend
of mine came came to our place in D c last.
Weekend he and his family were in town and he, Said,
hey CAN i crash at your? PLACE i said, Sure
and he AND i have gone to a lot of movies,
together and he's a Huge Star wars. Buff and so
he went to The Star WARS i guess. Museum and
(31:02):
WHEN i get back to MY dc, apartment he's replaced
my sheets With Star wars sheets and A Star wars
comforter In Star wars pillowcases and it looks like a
nine year old boys. Room AND i just wrap up.
Laughing and then actually it was right AFTER i had
The Tucker carlson. Interview that was a lot of. Fireworks
(31:23):
so he Bought Tucker carlson's book and he rested it
on the, pillowcase SO i was doubled over laughing WHEN
i walked in walked In monday morning to the apartment
and saw my bedroom as.
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Speaker 3 (31:51):
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