June 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Key Highlights:
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Military and Diplomatic Tensions: The episode details a tense standoff between the U.S. and Iran, with Israel already conducting airstrikes on Iranian targets. Iran has launched missile attacks on Israel and issued threats of retaliation. Trump, meanwhile, has called for Iran’s “unconditional surrender” of its nuclear program, signaling that the U.S. may join Israel in military action if Iran does not comply.
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Air Superiority and Bunker-Buster Strategy: Trump claims U.S. and Israeli forces have full control of Iranian airspace. The report discusses the possibility of the U.S. using advanced bunker-busting bombs against Iran’s underground nuclear facilities, emphasizing America’s superior military technology.
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Iran’s Domestic Vulnerability: The narrative highlights how the Iranian leadership, especially the Supreme Leader, is under internal pressure, fearing unrest and potential regime collapse. Trump reportedly received a backchannel request from Iran to meet, which is interpreted as a sign of weakness.
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Trump’s Strategic Positioning: Trump maintains he does not want a long-term war but insists that Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons—by diplomacy if possible, but by force if necessary. He says no final decision has been made yet, but the clock is ticking for Iran.
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Partisan Debate and MAGA Unity: The document critiques voices of isolationism in the U.S., particularly Tucker Carlson, accusing him of minimizing the Iranian threat. Trump distances himself from Carlson's views and reaffirms that his America First base supports a tough stance on Iran. Despite some public disagreements, the MAGA movement is portrayed as largely united behind Trump.
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Bipartisan Support: Notably, Democratic Senator John Fetterman is quoted endorsing decisive action, including the targeting of Iranian leadership, suggesting strong bipartisan backing for strikes against Iran.
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Public Opinion: Polling data is cited showing that a majority of Americans—across Republicans, Democrats, and Independents—oppose Iran obtaining nuclear weapons and support airstrikes if necessary.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is a real war and also a war of words.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Right now, as Iran Supreme leader warns Israel, quote the
battle begins. Hours after Donald Trump also called for the
unconditional surrender of the nuclear.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Program in Iran. Now, the Iranian.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Supreme Leader the Iatola, declaring the battle begins in a
post hours after the President said We're not backing down,
and the name of hot Air, the battle begins. Allah
returns and We're not backing down. That's basically a synopsis
of what Iran's repetition of their rhetoric is.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hour after hour after hour. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The leader's sinister message comes after the Islamic Republic state
media also warned of a surprise on Tuesday night and
a Wednesday that the world will remember for centuries.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Their response.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The Iran leader addressed nation in a television broadcast in
which he pushed back against Trump's threats, saying is people
don't surrender, saying quote, intelligent people who know Iran, the
Iranian nation and its history will never speak to the
nation in threatening language because the Iranian nation will not surrender.
The Americans should know that any US military intervention will
(01:21):
undoubtedly be accompanied by irreputable damage now, the Israeli Defense
Force has reported multiple air raid sirens in northern Israel
early Wednesday due to a hostile aircraft infiltration quote unquote,
as they described it, sirens were heard and then go
on heights before the IDF announced it shot down three
(01:43):
Iranian drones. The Times of Israel is reporting now now
Iran launched two barrages of about thirty missiles total at
Israel Wednesday morning, and there was explosions that were.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Heard over Tel Aviv.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The IDF says a majority of the missiles were intercepted
and no injuries were rested. According to the outlet, fifty
Israeli fighter jets also flew to Iran to fire missiles
at a centerfuge production site and multiple weapons manufacturing facilities
around the Iranian capital. That is significant because yet again
it proves the point that the US and Israeli said
(02:19):
that they have total dominance over the airspace of Iran.
Fifty Israeli fighter jets are being used, just to be clear,
virtually at the same time, and these strikes directly degrade
Iran's ability to threaten Israel and the region. That is
what the Defense Forces account said on social media coming
(02:39):
out of Israel. Now, the IDEF says a majority of
the missiles were intercepted in no injuries like I said
were reported, as more rockets were fired into Israel. And
these strikes that they did in Iran were clearly not
going after civilians. They were going after these hard military targets.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Now Israeli a.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Few bish has also issued an evacuation warning for Iranian
residents living in southwestern Tehran in anticipation of another strike,
yet again trying to minimize the amount of civilian casualties.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That is something that Iran would never do.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Iran state news website claimed Israel had attacked several targets,
including a university in the east of Iran that is
linked to its Revolutionary Guard and their ballistic missile facility
near Tehran. Israel set had struck key elements of Iran's
nuclear weapons and missile programs during an overnight attack on
Tehran as well. Now we also know that the Supreme
(03:38):
Leader's ex account has been publishing propaganda posters featuring Iranian
missiles being launched at Israel and fireballs raining down on.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The Jewish state killing innocent people.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, that's their propaganda, Like we're going to kill all
of you, women and children.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But that's what Iran does. They have said it clearly.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
They want to annihilate Israel and they want to get
rid of them from the river to see. They want
every Jewish person to die. Now you look at the
opposite of that in Israel's like, we're going to attack
over here, so civilians please leave. You think about the
difference in those two just mindsets. It's totally mind boggling
that anyone at this point would not be understanding and
(04:17):
backing Israel, and yet there are many who are not.
Now the Middle Eastern conflict is now entering. It's what
six six and a half days began when Israel launched
an Operation Rising Line, in which it attacks Iran's nuclear
plants and uranium enrichment facilities. Israeli forces have wiped out
Iran's air defenses virtually all together, giving them airspace superiority.
(04:42):
And Trump announced the majority of Iran's air defense systems
had been eliminated, and he said there will be more
details to come. So you put all of this breaking
news together, and the President said this quote, we now
have complete and total control of the skies of Iran.
Iran had good skytrackers and other defensive equipment and plenty
(05:04):
of it. But it doesn't compare to American made, conceived,
and manufactured stuff. That's what Trump wrote one social saying, quote,
nobody does it better than the good old USA. The
US Commander in chief also called for that unconditional surrender
on Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
As he revealed the US knows.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The location of Iran supreme leader, and so we could
take you out at any moment we want to.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Iran said it would.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Respond quote firmly if the US became directly involved in
the conflict with Israel. We also know that the White
House has said, now there's a very good chance that
we may join the fight with Israel to go after
Iran's nuclear site, the one that is deep down underneath
in essence a mountain, And we have the technology and
(05:51):
the aircraft to drop those bunker busting bombs that Israel
doesn't have. Now, all of this brings me to a
moment that happened been in the White House moments ago,
and moments ago, the President was asked a question about
these tensions and this story, and I want you to
listen to what he said.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Contributed to that change. How you got to where you
are and making your decision now, Well, I think it
started the first night. I mean, you know, the first
night was devastating.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it really knocked the one side office, you know, devastating,
devastating evening day, and pretty much proceeded that way. I
have a meeting in the war roam in a little
while situation room to some people call it. So we're
going to meet, We're going to see. We're in the
(06:41):
midst of it. It's a terrible thing. I hate to
see it. I hate to see all that death. It's
so much death and destruction, but death primarily is what
I hate to see. Does that mean you haven't made
a decision yet.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
On what to do.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I have ideas as to what to do, but I
haven't made a final I like to make the final
decision one second before, you know, because things change, I mean,
especially with war. Things changed with war can go from
one extreme to the other. Wars was very bad. There
was no reason for this to be a war. There
was no reason for Russia Ukraine a lot of wars.
There was no reason for you look right up there.
(07:17):
I don't know how to see the declaration of independence,
and I say, I wonder if you, you know, the
Civil War always seemed to me maybe that could have
been solved without losing six hundred thousand plus people.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So there's a lot to unpack there.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Number One, President Trump says Iran wants to visit him
at the White House and he might actually let them.
That is a huge development, especially after what I told
you the Supreme Leader was saying.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And then you may ask the question, why is.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The Supreme Leader saying all the things he's saying if
in fact they're begging to meet with the President of
United States of America, right it's a great question. It's
because they're also having to protect themselves against.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Their own people.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Their own people they're afraid could overthrow their government.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And right now they are weaker than they've been in.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Probably decades, because now the people understand they're actually not
safe and that their government is much weaker than they
imagined before. You think about when the President said to
the people of Tehran, you need to evacuate, and literally
millions left.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So that's part one.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Some of this is self preservation for the Supreme Leader
and propaganda to control their people. The second thing the
President said is when he said look, I'm going to
be meeting with my National Security Council in the situation.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
In one hour.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That also sends a signal to Ran like you're running
out of time. In other words, we're moving forward on
what could really be an attack on your nuclear site.
And that could also weaken the regime as well, because
the people there would then lose pride in their supreme
leader and realize that their supreme leader really is put
them in a very bad situation. It also could make
(08:57):
them run to the table even faster. We have to
see how that ends up. And then finally Trump says
he doesn't want war. He's working towards peace. He clearly
doesn't want war. That's what he's been saying since the
very beginning. And remember that's what he said for sixty
days in a row when Iran refused to come to
the table. His final moment that he said was no
(09:18):
decision on action has been made yet keyword yet. So
the President seems to be playing two games right now.
One negotiating possibly with Iran to dial all this back,
and two what we may need to do to go
after their nuclear site. I want to also make sure
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(09:39):
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have asked the question, how can I help people in Israel?
And we've been telling you about the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews and the work they are doing is incredible.
They are deploying bomb shelters as we speak to help
keep people safe in Israel when things get bad, that
(10:01):
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(10:22):
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(10:44):
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four eight eight IFCJ. I also want to bring in
another aspect of this conversation and some of the debate
here in the US. Many of you have probably seen
what I would refer to is nothing more than a
hit job ass type interview that Tucker Carlson did with
(11:35):
Ted Kruz, and a lot of people have been texting
me like what's happening.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
With Tuger Carlson. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
What I do know is Tucker Carlson is a full
blown isolationist. He's an apologist for by the way, like
Vladimir Putin, he put out like state sponsored propaganda going
to the grocery store in Russia and doing that interview
and what was also very interesting about the interview, Like
I would have loved to have seen that type of
(12:02):
energy when he was interviewing Vitimir Putin instead.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Of Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But what you're witnessing right now is there some people
like Tucker that want to be this like isolation, just
like everything outside of America's borders doesn't matter. And I'm like,
I wish it was that simple. I wish you could
just be that simplistic as a human being and say, oh,
everybody else in the world can do whatever they want
and it doesn't affect us, and we just shouldn't be involved,
and we should all just look the other way. And
(12:28):
that's that's just kumbayat right, Like that's the Tucker Carlson
foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I posted a video earlier of the parliament in Iran
burning an American flag in at the front.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Of the room and chanting not only.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That they wanted to kill America, they wanted nuke America,
but channing death to America on top of all of that, right, Like,
the Iranian parliament and the NPS literally are burning the
American flag well, channing death to America. And then they
threaten to you's a nuclear bomb against the American homewin,
not American interests in the Middle least the American home win.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I will say it again. Believe then when they start chanting.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Death to America, like this is it, folks, that's the
enchanting death to America.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
In their language, Like I want you to go watch
this video. I want you to.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
See the faces of these radicals. I want you to
listen and watch them burn this American flag as they
look like, you know, the most psychotic people you've ever seen.
They want to kill America. They want to kill Americans.
They want us to die in a nuclear attack. They're
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saying it, And you also have to look at who's
backing around, like Russia loves them, China loves them, by
the way, they love for them to fill the vacuum
in the world is their allies. They would absolutely love that.
But this is what they're they're saying. And yet Tucker
Carlson's sitting there going, oh, well, hold on a second,
(14:10):
like we don't want any of this, right, we just
want to look the other way.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I've said this before and I'll say it again. I
don't want to invade Iran. I don't think we can
nation build in the Middle East. I don't think we
can export democracy like I thought we could have to
nine to eleven, that people would be so happy we're
in Afghanistan, in Iraq and they would send it for themselves.
That clearly doesn't work. My foreign policy has changed. I
was wrong, then you learn from your mistakes. I am
not in favored nation building. I'm not in favor of
(14:35):
seeing American troops to Iran. I want to make that clear.
What I am in favor of is making sure the
people that are there in leadership don't have the chance
to kill innocent Americans in this country with a nuclear weapon,
or Israel for that matter, or American interest in the
Middle East. And yet Tucker Carlson's out there and he
put out this like just a really nasty video of
(14:58):
him going after Ted Cruz my coast, by the way,
And I'm going to defend him because I believe that
this was just so classless where he's like, well, do
you know the population in Iran? Wait, you don't know
the population, by the way. I mean my response, Tuckers,
do you know any people live in your neighborhood? Do
you know people live in the town that you live in.
Do you know any people live in Russia? When you
(15:19):
were doing propaganda for Vladimir Putin literally in Russia, interviewing
him and then going to the grocery store putting on
a propaganda video on behalf of Russia, like the I
got you type questions is just such white trash And
it's such narcissism from Tucker Carlson. It really is sad
and disappointing that he's doing this now. Tucker's also like
(15:41):
gone against Donald Trump now and apparently he's feeling the
heat and he's licking his wounds now.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And I want you to hear what.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Donald Trump had to say at the Oval Office when
he was asked about not only this like just totally
classless interview with Taker. He's like Ted Cruz is not
your enemy, Tucker, but it's like Tucker against the world,
and WIGN policy is dangerous, which is just put blinders on,
only look at America and no one and let the
rest of the world burn. And America should not be
involved anywhere else around the world. And if you don't
(16:09):
know the population of Iran, then you shouldn't have an
opinion on what's happening Rand By the way, I don't
know the population Ran I know now because this stupid interview,
but the idea that my foreign policy is not authentic
or real if I don't know the population of a country,
I mean I would have asked Tucker this question, Hey,
do you know what the population was in Germany when
(16:30):
Adolf Hitler was in charge? Well, if you don't know
that population, you're saying that we shouldn't have stopped Hitler?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Is that what you're telling me? Like it's insanity.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But listen to Tucker now backtracking because he's realizing, oh wait,
I may have gone too far.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
The Tucker Girls and Senator Tuchfreus interview. It seems like
this issue on whether or not the United States should
strike is kind of dividing a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Of your supporters.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Uh no, my supporters are for me. My supporters are
America first. They make America great again. My supporters don't
want to see around have a nuclear weapon. Tucker's a
nice guy. He called and apologized the other day because
he thought he said things that were too strong, and
I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy.
(17:13):
I mean, he's been with me for a whole time.
I'd say once the race was over, he's been with
me ever since.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But very simple.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
If they think that it's okay for Iran to have
a nuclear weapon, and then they should oppose me. But
nobody thinks it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And by the way, Trump wasn't done there.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
He also talked about his conversation he had with Tucker
Carlson to the media as well.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Take a listen to what he said.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And it's interesting because I did ask Tucker. I said, well,
are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands
of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He
didn't want to really, but he sort of didn't like that.
And I said, well, if if it's okay with you,
then you and I do have a difference. But it's
really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight,
(18:02):
and maybe it'll land, and maybe it'll land very quickly.
But there's no way that you can allow, whether you
have to fight or not, you can allow Ran to
have an opener weapon because the entire world will blow up.
Not gonna let that happening. He had a bit of
a row with the President of Manuel Man.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I go back to yesterday, I was doing an interview
on Newsation Chris Clomo's show, and he asked me a
question trying to pit me against Steve Bannon and Tucker
and others, and I said, you know, it's funny. This
is going to be a blip on the radar screen.
I think I support President Trump and what he decides
to do here, especially if he goes after this nuclear side.
(18:41):
I'm in favor of going after this nuclear side. I
want to be clear about that. I'm not in favor
of invasion. I'm not in favor of boots on the ground.
And Tucker Carlson, of course, would just lose his mind
if if we were having a conversation right now over
me saying that. But I said, if you think I'm
going to like go to war with my own team
over this, I'm not. I know Steve Banner, we don't
agree on everything. I have a lot of respect for Steve,
(19:02):
Steve and our friends. Steve and I had dinner recently,
we chat often, had him on my show recently. And
this idea that there's some massive divide within MAGA.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I think is a farce.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I think when President Trump said I did ask
Tucker are you okay with nuclear weapons being the hands
of Iran? And he didn't like that. I said, if
it's okay with you, then then you and I have
a difference. Right, It's okay, we can disagree. But this
idea that we should just put on blinders and let
the rest of the world burn that didn't work too
(19:34):
well in World War Two, by the way, and we
were like, we're not getting involved, We're not get involved.
We're not getting involved, we're not getting involved. But how
did that work out for us? It didn't work out
very well.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You look at the Iranian military put out a video
on X and you should look at it. I reposted
on X You can follow me there at Ben Ferguson's show.
But they put out a video and it's like a
It almost.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Looks like an animated movie video.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It says there's a surprise of night that the world
will remember for many trees. And in this video, it
shows them attacking with a massive barrage of rockets inter
ballistic missiles flying across the world and it looks like
it's hitting America, and it says justice will be served,
and then it shows what looks like an American with
rocks of a building coming down on them, and then
(20:19):
you know their soldier coming in with their sword.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
To behead him.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I guess, and it says shadow of a boss like
this is what they believe. They are radical Islamic terrorists,
they support radical Islamic terrorism. There is a video of
what looks like to me suicide bombers and a boat
going after one of our aircraft carriers. And so I
(20:43):
look at all of this, how I'll go back to
just isolationism and Tucker Carlson doing the one to eighty here,
let me go back to the Atlantic in February twenty
second twenty in February of twenty twelve. February twenty second
of twenty twelve, this is the headline Tucker Carlson, Iran
deserves to be annihilated. My question for Tucker is what changed?
(21:05):
What changed between then and now?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
What changed? I want to know what changed.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're getting new breaking news and this is moving very
quickly with what's happening between Iran, Israel, and now the
United States of America, with a new statement that has
just come out from Donald Trump saying, quote, we.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Don't want a long term war with Iran.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
President Donald Trump, making it clear that the administration is
not looking for long term war. In a second statement,
Trump addressing concerns among members of the Make America Greatagan
base that the United States would be pulled into a
quote long term war while filling a question from the media.
Take a listen to his own words outside of the
(21:49):
White House.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Some of the people in the base don't want a
long term war. They're afraid that we're going to get
into a long term. What you want for a long term,
but we're looking to Earth. It's only I only want
one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I'm not looking long term structure. And I've been saying
that for twenty years. I've been saying that there's a
civilian who got a lot of publicity. People would cover
it very simply. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, So it's.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Not a question of anything else.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
country because they would.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Use it on us, and they'd use it on other people,
and they'd be a terror all over the world.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We're not looking for long term more. I only want
one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That is it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Very simply, he said in another interview, Iran cannot have
a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
It's not a question of anything else.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
country because they would use it on us and use
it on other.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
People, and they'd be a tear all over the world.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Trump notally tweeted back in twenty eleven, before he even
enter the political world, that quote, I Ran cannot have
a nuclear weapon and has been firm and it stands
throughout his political career and his presidential campaign in twenty
twenty four. If you go back to the doctrine of
Donald Trump, look at November fourth, twenty eleven, his exact tweet,
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Iran's quest for nuclear weapons is a major threat to
our nation's national security interests. We cannot allow Ran to
go nuclear. That was before he was running for any office.
In fact, that's actually when he was a Democrat. Trump
notably gave Iran a sixty day deadline that expired on Thursday,
June twelfth to make a deal to end its nuclear program,
(23:31):
and then on Friday, Israel began striking Iranian nuclear sites,
military leaders, and refineries. Trump declared tuesday, quote, we have
complete and total control of the skies of Iran and
revealed his team new the exact location of the leader
of Iran. When asked Wednesday if the US was moving
(23:51):
closer to striking Iranian nuclear sites, here is what Trump
said about that about whether.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You are moving closer?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You believe you at this moving closer to striking Iranian
nuclear facilities.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Where's your mindset on that? You say that?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that. Will
you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And what time exactly, sir, sir? Would you strike it?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Would you please inform U.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So we can be there and watch. I mean, you
don't know that I'm going to even do it. You
don't know. I may do it, I may not do it.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I can tell you this that.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Iram's got a lot of trouble and they want to negotiate.
And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before
all this death and destruction? Why didn't you nego? I
said to the people, why didn't you negotiate with me
two weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You could have done fine. You would have had a country.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
It's very sad to watch this I mean, I've never
said anything like it, so you neveryone thought it was
going to be the reverse.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
I didn't think so. And they're telling him, you got
to you got to do something, you got to negotiate.
And at the end last week and that they said, no,
we're not going to do that, and they got hit.
Remember sixty days, and then came the sixty sixty one
is going to become a very famous number. That was
one hell of a hit, that first hit. That was
one hell of a hit. Not sustainable, to be honest.
That's where it ended. It ended on the first night.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yes, too late, though, do you think it's too late
to now?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Really, nothing's too late.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The only thing too late is Powell.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Powell's too late, too late.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Powell President Trump making it clear this is something that
is on the table, which brings us to the latest
breaking news and what is being reported just a moment
ago on Fox News Channel that Donald Trump has in
fact approved attack plans against Iran.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Fox, who's alert the IATOLA, has gone into hiding. He's
believed to be holed up inside an underground bunker northeast
of the Capitol. This is a different kind of Iranian
hostage crisis. Komanie can hide, but he can't run. For
the past twenty four hours, Israel's been attacking the area
around his underground layer. Kamane, still talking tough, says Iran
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will not surrender to anyone, and is warning that if
America joins the fight and strikes, it'll result in irreparable
damage to the United States.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Is he bluffing, We don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Iranian proxies, which have been severely degraded, are threatening to
commit acts of terror against American troops and American ships
in the region, and American businesses are now bracing for
cyber attacks.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Trump says, good luck with that. We won't be bullied.
I was the hunted and now I'm the hunter. It's
a big difference. That means I've had it. Okay, I've
had it. I give up no more. Then we go
blow up all you know, all the.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Nuclear stuff that's all over the place.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Then now they had.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Bad intentions, you know, the for forty years they've been
saying death.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
To American, death to Israel, and death to anybody else
that they didn't like. They were bullies, they were schoolyard bullies,
and now they're not bullies anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Trump's been meeting in the situation room with his National
Security team head of Central Command, Army General Eric Carilla,
they call him the Gorilla. Has been instrumental in the
war planning the Pentagons, sending in their new state of
the art supercarrier, the USS Gerald Ford, and amassing a
tremendous amount of assets in the area. Today, Trump had
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lunch with Pakistan's army chief.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Pakistan borders Iran.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Seems like something's about to happen, and this is just breaking.
The Wall Street journal is reporting Trump privately approved attack
plans against Iran. Now we don't know what these plans entail,
but we're told they include US air strikes. Unsure if
that includes bunker Busters. Remember, the latest version of the
bunker Buster has never been used on the battlefield, It's
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only been tested. Axios reports that Trump has been quizzing
as generals. Are they sure if he uses them they'll
be one hundred percent effective? Generals say yes, but Trump's
not completely convinced. Caroline Levitt says all options remain on
the table. Trump's been waiting on giving the final order,
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seeing if the Iranians give up and surrender their new
program peacefully. Sources in DC say Trump's out of patience
and Iran's up against the clock.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
I believe that unlesserre On surrenders in the next forty
eight hours, the United States, in conjunction with Israel, will
engage in military action.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Trump says the Iranians want to fly all the way
to the White House to negotiate an end to this.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But he says it's too late. He doesn't appear to
be open.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
To long drawn out negotiations where he gets strung along
like last time.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
We're not looking for a ceasfire. We're looking for a total,
complete victory.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Again.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You know what the victory is no nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Trump's made a decision.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Iran's nuclear program is gone. The person who ultimately decides
that is the Iatola. He can either let us do
it peacefully or we'll do it violently. But either way,
the outcome of this war is this, the Iranians will
never be able.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
To acquire a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Now, the second part of this story is this, will
the supreme leader of Iran come to the negotiating table
and actually stop the nuclear program. They may be wanting
to send people to the White House, but here's what
the actual Iatolas says. He has a stark warning directed
both at the US and Israel. In fact, he declared,
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today the battle begins, stating there would be quote no
mercy for the terrorist Zionis regime of Israel. He also
criticized the US President trump calls for Iran's unconential surrender,
asserting that Iran will never quote unquote surrender and that
any US military action would cause irreparable damage. Iran's you
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An ambassador echoed that any direct US involvement alongside Israel
w trigger their own firm response. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman
went further, warning the US intervention could spark an all
out war across.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
The entire region.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now, let me say one other thing that's very interesting
about all this is what's happening within the Democratic Party.
Many Democrats are staying silent on this, but some are
willing to stand up and stand on the issue, actually
backing Donald Trump and saying we need to go even further.
Insert Democratic Senator John Fetterman. Here's what he had to
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say on Fox News Channel with Bill Hemmer.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Say show no mercy and if you have to take
the Supreme leader out, do it.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Explain your position now, Sir.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think they should have targeted him, absolutely
gone taking him out. I think the way Israel operates,
they just take out the leadership, just like they did
with Hesbola, and they've already done that with the Iranian leadership,
just took them out, even laying in their beds, and
they didn't take down the whole building. They actually targeted
where they lay in bed. And now they eliminated the
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military ones and the nuclear ones. That's magnificent and the
precision which they've done that, And I don't know why
they would have left the leader out.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
What comes after that if that reality were to take place.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Senator Well, I think the reality is is that that
you have a nation that just is in a position
where they have to be held accountable for what they've done.
They are the ones that built and created the proxies
like Hamas and Hezbollah and put our whole region in
this kind of chaos, and now they clearly have nuclear ambitions,
and now I think it's entirely I'm not sure if
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I might have been the only one constantly calling them
to just take this facility out and to use the
B two and those gigantic bunker buster ones and partner
up with Israel what they've.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Done, Fetterman saying, I call all in Israel to eliminate
the Supreme leader without mercy. So that brings us to
the latest point where we are now. Is there a
very good chance that Donald Trump could in fact order
that we attack Iran's nuclear sites with those bunker busting bombs.
The answers yes, would there be bipartisan support?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Clearly? John Fetterman says he will join others.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
In the Republican Party advocating for this, which brings me
to my final point, what are the American people think
about the president stands?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Apparently in new polling, America stands overwhelmingly with Donald Trump
and Israel by staggeringly large numbers. Nearly seventy percent of
Americans say US airstrikes to stop Iran's nuclear ambitions are appropriate,
and the best part about it is who had to
report it?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
CNN listen carefully and overall, I.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's positions than
is comically acknowledged. Poser Iran getting a nuclear weapon. I mean,
look at this, Seventy nine percent of adults agree on
that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron cannot get.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
A nuclear weapon. Eighty three percent of.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Republicans, seventy nine percent of Independence, seventy nine percent of Democrats.
When you get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty
three percent of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that
that position is the very clear majority in this country.
And so the American public is with Donald Trump. They
definitely opposed in Ron.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Getting nuclear weapons. So this is a nuance here.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
But you know Trump and Nettino both arguing that Ron
is close to being capable of making a nuclear weapon.
If that is the case, what is the feeling of
Americans as to whether the United States should get involved
in this conflict?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right?
Speaker 9 (33:39):
If you buy Donald Trump's theory of the case. And
I think that's important to note, this is polling from
April for Rans trying to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Look at this overall, you get the.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Slight plurality, I mean it's within the margin ember, but
the slight plurality of Americans actually favor US air strikes
compared to forty seven percent of posing it. Now here's
the other nugget. Will note, right, there's been a lot
of talk online and on social media and en podcasts
of a divide within the Republican ranks.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
But here on this question.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
If a rans trying to make a nuclear up, and
look at that sixty nine percent of Republicans, the clear
vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes on are
on on their nuclear facilities.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No doubt President Trump has a support of the American
people in overwhelming and staggering numbers. And for anyone out
there that's trying to tell you there's some massive divide
within MAGA country, they're just wrong. Basically, seventy percent of
the GOP favor US air strikes. This is a major
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number on such a quote controversial issue. So there may
actually be just propagandas out there, just like Tucker Carlson,
who are trying to act like there's some big divide
when clearly the Republican Party is standing with Donald Trump.
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we appreciate you listening every day.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We'll see you back here tomorrow
It is a real war and also a war of words.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Right now, as Iran Supreme leader warns Israel, quote the
battle begins. Hours after Donald Trump also called for the
unconditional surrender of the nuclear.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Program in Iran. Now, the Iranian.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Supreme Leader the Iatola, declaring the battle begins in a
post hours after the President said We're not backing down,
and the name of hot Air, the battle begins. Allah
returns and We're not backing down. That's basically a synopsis
of what Iran's repetition of their rhetoric is.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hour after hour after hour. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The leader's sinister message comes after the Islamic Republic state
media also warned of a surprise on Tuesday night and
a Wednesday that the world will remember for centuries.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Their response.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The Iran leader addressed nation in a television broadcast in
which he pushed back against Trump's threats, saying is people
don't surrender, saying quote, intelligent people who know Iran, the
Iranian nation and its history will never speak to the
nation in threatening language because the Iranian nation will not surrender.
The Americans should know that any US military intervention will
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undoubtedly be accompanied by irreputable damage now, the Israeli Defense
Force has reported multiple air raid sirens in northern Israel
early Wednesday due to a hostile aircraft infiltration quote unquote,
as they described it, sirens were heard and then go
on heights before the IDF announced it shot down three
(01:43):
Iranian drones. The Times of Israel is reporting now now
Iran launched two barrages of about thirty missiles total at
Israel Wednesday morning, and there was explosions that were.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Heard over Tel Aviv.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
The IDF says a majority of the missiles were intercepted
and no injuries were rested. According to the outlet, fifty
Israeli fighter jets also flew to Iran to fire missiles
at a centerfuge production site and multiple weapons manufacturing facilities
around the Iranian capital. That is significant because yet again
it proves the point that the US and Israeli said
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that they have total dominance over the airspace of Iran.
Fifty Israeli fighter jets are being used, just to be clear,
virtually at the same time, and these strikes directly degrade
Iran's ability to threaten Israel and the region. That is
what the Defense Forces account said on social media coming
(02:39):
out of Israel. Now, the IDEF says a majority of
the missiles were intercepted in no injuries like I said
were reported, as more rockets were fired into Israel. And
these strikes that they did in Iran were clearly not
going after civilians. They were going after these hard military targets.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Now Israeli a.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Few bish has also issued an evacuation warning for Iranian
residents living in southwestern Tehran in anticipation of another strike,
yet again trying to minimize the amount of civilian casualties.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That is something that Iran would never do.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Iran state news website claimed Israel had attacked several targets,
including a university in the east of Iran that is
linked to its Revolutionary Guard and their ballistic missile facility
near Tehran. Israel set had struck key elements of Iran's
nuclear weapons and missile programs during an overnight attack on
Tehran as well. Now we also know that the Supreme
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Leader's ex account has been publishing propaganda posters featuring Iranian
missiles being launched at Israel and fireballs raining down on.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The Jewish state killing innocent people.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, that's their propaganda, Like we're going to kill all
of you, women and children.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But that's what Iran does. They have said it clearly.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
They want to annihilate Israel and they want to get
rid of them from the river to see. They want
every Jewish person to die. Now you look at the
opposite of that in Israel's like, we're going to attack
over here, so civilians please leave. You think about the
difference in those two just mindsets. It's totally mind boggling
that anyone at this point would not be understanding and
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backing Israel, and yet there are many who are not.
Now the Middle Eastern conflict is now entering. It's what
six six and a half days began when Israel launched
an Operation Rising Line, in which it attacks Iran's nuclear
plants and uranium enrichment facilities. Israeli forces have wiped out
Iran's air defenses virtually all together, giving them airspace superiority.
(04:42):
And Trump announced the majority of Iran's air defense systems
had been eliminated, and he said there will be more
details to come. So you put all of this breaking
news together, and the President said this quote, we now
have complete and total control of the skies of Iran.
Iran had good skytrackers and other defensive equipment and plenty
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of it. But it doesn't compare to American made, conceived,
and manufactured stuff. That's what Trump wrote one social saying, quote,
nobody does it better than the good old USA. The
US Commander in chief also called for that unconditional surrender
on Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
As he revealed the US knows.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The location of Iran supreme leader, and so we could
take you out at any moment we want to.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Iran said it would.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Respond quote firmly if the US became directly involved in
the conflict with Israel. We also know that the White
House has said, now there's a very good chance that
we may join the fight with Israel to go after
Iran's nuclear site, the one that is deep down underneath
in essence a mountain, And we have the technology and
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the aircraft to drop those bunker busting bombs that Israel
doesn't have. Now, all of this brings me to a
moment that happened been in the White House moments ago,
and moments ago, the President was asked a question about
these tensions and this story, and I want you to
listen to what he said.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Contributed to that change. How you got to where you
are and making your decision now, Well, I think it
started the first night. I mean, you know, the first
night was devastating.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it really knocked the one side office, you know, devastating,
devastating evening day, and pretty much proceeded that way. I
have a meeting in the war roam in a little
while situation room to some people call it. So we're
going to meet, We're going to see. We're in the
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midst of it. It's a terrible thing. I hate to
see it. I hate to see all that death. It's
so much death and destruction, but death primarily is what
I hate to see. Does that mean you haven't made
a decision yet.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
On what to do.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I have ideas as to what to do, but I
haven't made a final I like to make the final
decision one second before, you know, because things change, I mean,
especially with war. Things changed with war can go from
one extreme to the other. Wars was very bad. There
was no reason for this to be a war. There
was no reason for Russia Ukraine a lot of wars.
There was no reason for you look right up there.
(07:17):
I don't know how to see the declaration of independence,
and I say, I wonder if you, you know, the
Civil War always seemed to me maybe that could have
been solved without losing six hundred thousand plus people.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So there's a lot to unpack there.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Number One, President Trump says Iran wants to visit him
at the White House and he might actually let them.
That is a huge development, especially after what I told
you the Supreme Leader was saying.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And then you may ask the question, why is.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The Supreme Leader saying all the things he's saying if
in fact they're begging to meet with the President of
United States of America, right it's a great question. It's
because they're also having to protect themselves against.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Their own people.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Their own people they're afraid could overthrow their government.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And right now they are weaker than they've been in.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Probably decades, because now the people understand they're actually not
safe and that their government is much weaker than they
imagined before. You think about when the President said to
the people of Tehran, you need to evacuate, and literally
millions left.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So that's part one.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Some of this is self preservation for the Supreme Leader
and propaganda to control their people. The second thing the
President said is when he said look, I'm going to
be meeting with my National Security Council in the situation.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
In one hour.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That also sends a signal to Ran like you're running
out of time. In other words, we're moving forward on
what could really be an attack on your nuclear site.
And that could also weaken the regime as well, because
the people there would then lose pride in their supreme
leader and realize that their supreme leader really is put
them in a very bad situation. It also could make
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them run to the table even faster. We have to
see how that ends up. And then finally Trump says
he doesn't want war. He's working towards peace. He clearly
doesn't want war. That's what he's been saying since the
very beginning. And remember that's what he said for sixty
days in a row when Iran refused to come to
the table. His final moment that he said was no
(09:18):
decision on action has been made yet keyword yet. So
the President seems to be playing two games right now.
One negotiating possibly with Iran to dial all this back,
and two what we may need to do to go
after their nuclear site. I want to also make sure
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four eight eight IFCJ. I also want to bring in
another aspect of this conversation and some of the debate
here in the US. Many of you have probably seen
what I would refer to is nothing more than a
hit job ass type interview that Tucker Carlson did with
(11:35):
Ted Kruz, and a lot of people have been texting
me like what's happening.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
With Tuger Carlson. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
What I do know is Tucker Carlson is a full
blown isolationist. He's an apologist for by the way, like
Vladimir Putin, he put out like state sponsored propaganda going
to the grocery store in Russia and doing that interview
and what was also very interesting about the interview, Like
I would have loved to have seen that type of
(12:02):
energy when he was interviewing Vitimir Putin instead.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Of Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But what you're witnessing right now is there some people
like Tucker that want to be this like isolation, just
like everything outside of America's borders doesn't matter. And I'm like,
I wish it was that simple. I wish you could
just be that simplistic as a human being and say, oh,
everybody else in the world can do whatever they want
and it doesn't affect us, and we just shouldn't be involved,
and we should all just look the other way. And
(12:28):
that's that's just kumbayat right, Like that's the Tucker Carlson
foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I posted a video earlier of the parliament in Iran
burning an American flag in at the front.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Of the room and chanting not only.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That they wanted to kill America, they wanted nuke America,
but channing death to America on top of all of that, right, Like,
the Iranian parliament and the NPS literally are burning the
American flag well, channing death to America. And then they
threaten to you's a nuclear bomb against the American homewin,
not American interests in the Middle least the American home win.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I will say it again. Believe then when they start chanting.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Death to America, like this is it, folks, that's the
enchanting death to America.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
In their language, Like I want you to go watch
this video. I want you to.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
See the faces of these radicals. I want you to
listen and watch them burn this American flag as they
look like, you know, the most psychotic people you've ever seen.
They want to kill America. They want to kill Americans.
They want us to die in a nuclear attack. They're
(13:50):
saying it, And you also have to look at who's
backing around, like Russia loves them, China loves them, by
the way, they love for them to fill the vacuum
in the world is their allies. They would absolutely love that.
But this is what they're they're saying. And yet Tucker
Carlson's sitting there going, oh, well, hold on a second,
(14:10):
like we don't want any of this, right, we just
want to look the other way.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I've said this before and I'll say it again. I
don't want to invade Iran. I don't think we can
nation build in the Middle East. I don't think we
can export democracy like I thought we could have to
nine to eleven, that people would be so happy we're
in Afghanistan, in Iraq and they would send it for themselves.
That clearly doesn't work. My foreign policy has changed. I
was wrong, then you learn from your mistakes. I am
not in favored nation building. I'm not in favor of
(14:35):
seeing American troops to Iran. I want to make that clear.
What I am in favor of is making sure the
people that are there in leadership don't have the chance
to kill innocent Americans in this country with a nuclear weapon,
or Israel for that matter, or American interest in the
Middle East. And yet Tucker Carlson's out there and he
put out this like just a really nasty video of
(14:58):
him going after Ted Cruz my coast, by the way,
And I'm going to defend him because I believe that
this was just so classless where he's like, well, do
you know the population in Iran? Wait, you don't know
the population, by the way. I mean my response, Tuckers,
do you know any people live in your neighborhood? Do
you know people live in the town that you live in.
Do you know any people live in Russia? When you
(15:19):
were doing propaganda for Vladimir Putin literally in Russia, interviewing
him and then going to the grocery store putting on
a propaganda video on behalf of Russia, like the I
got you type questions is just such white trash And
it's such narcissism from Tucker Carlson. It really is sad
and disappointing that he's doing this now. Tucker's also like
(15:41):
gone against Donald Trump now and apparently he's feeling the
heat and he's licking his wounds now.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And I want you to hear what.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Donald Trump had to say at the Oval Office when
he was asked about not only this like just totally
classless interview with Taker. He's like Ted Cruz is not
your enemy, Tucker, but it's like Tucker against the world,
and WIGN policy is dangerous, which is just put blinders on,
only look at America and no one and let the
rest of the world burn. And America should not be
involved anywhere else around the world. And if you don't
(16:09):
know the population of Iran, then you shouldn't have an
opinion on what's happening Rand By the way, I don't
know the population Ran I know now because this stupid interview,
but the idea that my foreign policy is not authentic
or real if I don't know the population of a country,
I mean I would have asked Tucker this question, Hey,
do you know what the population was in Germany when
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Adolf Hitler was in charge? Well, if you don't know
that population, you're saying that we shouldn't have stopped Hitler?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Is that what you're telling me? Like it's insanity.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But listen to Tucker now backtracking because he's realizing, oh wait,
I may have gone too far.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
The Tucker Girls and Senator Tuchfreus interview. It seems like
this issue on whether or not the United States should
strike is kind of dividing a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Of your supporters.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Uh no, my supporters are for me. My supporters are
America first. They make America great again. My supporters don't
want to see around have a nuclear weapon. Tucker's a
nice guy. He called and apologized the other day because
he thought he said things that were too strong, and
I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy.
(17:13):
I mean, he's been with me for a whole time.
I'd say once the race was over, he's been with
me ever since.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But very simple.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
If they think that it's okay for Iran to have
a nuclear weapon, and then they should oppose me. But
nobody thinks it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And by the way, Trump wasn't done there.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
He also talked about his conversation he had with Tucker
Carlson to the media as well.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Take a listen to what he said.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And it's interesting because I did ask Tucker. I said, well,
are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands
of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He
didn't want to really, but he sort of didn't like that.
And I said, well, if if it's okay with you,
then you and I do have a difference. But it's
really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight,
(18:02):
and maybe it'll land, and maybe it'll land very quickly.
But there's no way that you can allow, whether you
have to fight or not, you can allow Ran to
have an opener weapon because the entire world will blow up.
Not gonna let that happening. He had a bit of
a row with the President of Manuel Man.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I go back to yesterday, I was doing an interview
on Newsation Chris Clomo's show, and he asked me a
question trying to pit me against Steve Bannon and Tucker
and others, and I said, you know, it's funny. This
is going to be a blip on the radar screen.
I think I support President Trump and what he decides
to do here, especially if he goes after this nuclear side.
(18:41):
I'm in favor of going after this nuclear side. I
want to be clear about that. I'm not in favor
of invasion. I'm not in favor of boots on the ground.
And Tucker Carlson, of course, would just lose his mind
if if we were having a conversation right now over
me saying that. But I said, if you think I'm
going to like go to war with my own team
over this, I'm not. I know Steve Banner, we don't
agree on everything. I have a lot of respect for Steve,
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Steve and our friends. Steve and I had dinner recently,
we chat often, had him on my show recently. And
this idea that there's some massive divide within MAGA.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I think is a farce.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I think when President Trump said I did ask
Tucker are you okay with nuclear weapons being the hands
of Iran? And he didn't like that. I said, if
it's okay with you, then then you and I have
a difference. Right, It's okay, we can disagree. But this
idea that we should just put on blinders and let
the rest of the world burn that didn't work too
(19:34):
well in World War Two, by the way, and we
were like, we're not getting involved, We're not get involved.
We're not getting involved, we're not getting involved. But how
did that work out for us? It didn't work out
very well.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You look at the Iranian military put out a video
on X and you should look at it. I reposted
on X You can follow me there at Ben Ferguson's show.
But they put out a video and it's like a
It almost.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Looks like an animated movie video.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It says there's a surprise of night that the world
will remember for many trees. And in this video, it
shows them attacking with a massive barrage of rockets inter
ballistic missiles flying across the world and it looks like
it's hitting America, and it says justice will be served,
and then it shows what looks like an American with
rocks of a building coming down on them, and then
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you know their soldier coming in with their sword.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
To behead him.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I guess, and it says shadow of a boss like
this is what they believe. They are radical Islamic terrorists,
they support radical Islamic terrorism. There is a video of
what looks like to me suicide bombers and a boat
going after one of our aircraft carriers. And so I
(20:43):
look at all of this, how I'll go back to
just isolationism and Tucker Carlson doing the one to eighty here,
let me go back to the Atlantic in February twenty
second twenty in February of twenty twelve. February twenty second
of twenty twelve, this is the headline Tucker Carlson, Iran
deserves to be annihilated. My question for Tucker is what changed?
(21:05):
What changed between then and now?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
What changed? I want to know what changed.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're getting new breaking news and this is moving very
quickly with what's happening between Iran, Israel, and now the
United States of America, with a new statement that has
just come out from Donald Trump saying, quote, we.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Don't want a long term war with Iran.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
President Donald Trump, making it clear that the administration is
not looking for long term war. In a second statement,
Trump addressing concerns among members of the Make America Greatagan
base that the United States would be pulled into a
quote long term war while filling a question from the media.
Take a listen to his own words outside of the
(21:49):
White House.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Some of the people in the base don't want a
long term war. They're afraid that we're going to get
into a long term. What you want for a long term,
but we're looking to Earth. It's only I only want
one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I'm not looking long term structure. And I've been saying
that for twenty years. I've been saying that there's a
civilian who got a lot of publicity. People would cover
it very simply. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, So it's.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Not a question of anything else.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
country because they would.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Use it on us, and they'd use it on other people,
and they'd be a terror all over the world.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We're not looking for long term more. I only want
one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That is it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Very simply, he said in another interview, Iran cannot have
a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
It's not a question of anything else.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a
country because they would use it on us and use
it on other.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
People, and they'd be a tear all over the world.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Trump notally tweeted back in twenty eleven, before he even
enter the political world, that quote, I Ran cannot have
a nuclear weapon and has been firm and it stands
throughout his political career and his presidential campaign in twenty
twenty four. If you go back to the doctrine of
Donald Trump, look at November fourth, twenty eleven, his exact tweet,
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Iran's quest for nuclear weapons is a major threat to
our nation's national security interests. We cannot allow Ran to
go nuclear. That was before he was running for any office.
In fact, that's actually when he was a Democrat. Trump
notably gave Iran a sixty day deadline that expired on Thursday,
June twelfth to make a deal to end its nuclear program,
(23:31):
and then on Friday, Israel began striking Iranian nuclear sites,
military leaders, and refineries. Trump declared tuesday, quote, we have
complete and total control of the skies of Iran and
revealed his team new the exact location of the leader
of Iran. When asked Wednesday if the US was moving
(23:51):
closer to striking Iranian nuclear sites, here is what Trump
said about that about whether.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You are moving closer?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You believe you at this moving closer to striking Iranian
nuclear facilities.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Where's your mindset on that? You say that?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that. Will
you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And what time exactly, sir, sir? Would you strike it?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Would you please inform U.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So we can be there and watch. I mean, you
don't know that I'm going to even do it. You
don't know. I may do it, I may not do it.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I can tell you this that.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Iram's got a lot of trouble and they want to negotiate.
And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before
all this death and destruction? Why didn't you nego? I
said to the people, why didn't you negotiate with me
two weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You could have done fine. You would have had a country.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
It's very sad to watch this I mean, I've never
said anything like it, so you neveryone thought it was
going to be the reverse.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
I didn't think so. And they're telling him, you got
to you got to do something, you got to negotiate.
And at the end last week and that they said, no,
we're not going to do that, and they got hit.
Remember sixty days, and then came the sixty sixty one
is going to become a very famous number. That was
one hell of a hit, that first hit. That was
one hell of a hit. Not sustainable, to be honest.
That's where it ended. It ended on the first night.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yes, too late, though, do you think it's too late
to now?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Really, nothing's too late.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The only thing too late is Powell.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Powell's too late, too late.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Powell President Trump making it clear this is something that
is on the table, which brings us to the latest
breaking news and what is being reported just a moment
ago on Fox News Channel that Donald Trump has in
fact approved attack plans against Iran.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Fox, who's alert the IATOLA, has gone into hiding. He's
believed to be holed up inside an underground bunker northeast
of the Capitol. This is a different kind of Iranian
hostage crisis. Komanie can hide, but he can't run. For
the past twenty four hours, Israel's been attacking the area
around his underground layer. Kamane, still talking tough, says Iran
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will not surrender to anyone, and is warning that if
America joins the fight and strikes, it'll result in irreparable
damage to the United States.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Is he bluffing, We don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Iranian proxies, which have been severely degraded, are threatening to
commit acts of terror against American troops and American ships
in the region, and American businesses are now bracing for
cyber attacks.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Trump says, good luck with that. We won't be bullied.
I was the hunted and now I'm the hunter. It's
a big difference. That means I've had it. Okay, I've
had it. I give up no more. Then we go
blow up all you know, all the.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Nuclear stuff that's all over the place.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Then now they had.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Bad intentions, you know, the for forty years they've been
saying death.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
To American, death to Israel, and death to anybody else
that they didn't like. They were bullies, they were schoolyard bullies,
and now they're not bullies anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Trump's been meeting in the situation room with his National
Security team head of Central Command, Army General Eric Carilla,
they call him the Gorilla. Has been instrumental in the
war planning the Pentagons, sending in their new state of
the art supercarrier, the USS Gerald Ford, and amassing a
tremendous amount of assets in the area. Today, Trump had
(27:23):
lunch with Pakistan's army chief.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Pakistan borders Iran.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Seems like something's about to happen, and this is just breaking.
The Wall Street journal is reporting Trump privately approved attack
plans against Iran. Now we don't know what these plans entail,
but we're told they include US air strikes. Unsure if
that includes bunker Busters. Remember, the latest version of the
bunker Buster has never been used on the battlefield, It's
(27:50):
only been tested. Axios reports that Trump has been quizzing
as generals. Are they sure if he uses them they'll
be one hundred percent effective? Generals say yes, but Trump's
not completely convinced. Caroline Levitt says all options remain on
the table. Trump's been waiting on giving the final order,
(28:10):
seeing if the Iranians give up and surrender their new
program peacefully. Sources in DC say Trump's out of patience
and Iran's up against the clock.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
I believe that unlesserre On surrenders in the next forty
eight hours, the United States, in conjunction with Israel, will
engage in military action.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Trump says the Iranians want to fly all the way
to the White House to negotiate an end to this.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But he says it's too late. He doesn't appear to
be open.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
To long drawn out negotiations where he gets strung along
like last time.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
We're not looking for a ceasfire. We're looking for a total,
complete victory.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Again.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
You know what the victory is no nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Trump's made a decision.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Iran's nuclear program is gone. The person who ultimately decides
that is the Iatola. He can either let us do
it peacefully or we'll do it violently. But either way,
the outcome of this war is this, the Iranians will
never be able.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
To acquire a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Now, the second part of this story is this, will
the supreme leader of Iran come to the negotiating table
and actually stop the nuclear program. They may be wanting
to send people to the White House, but here's what
the actual Iatolas says. He has a stark warning directed
both at the US and Israel. In fact, he declared,
(29:32):
today the battle begins, stating there would be quote no
mercy for the terrorist Zionis regime of Israel. He also
criticized the US President trump calls for Iran's unconential surrender,
asserting that Iran will never quote unquote surrender and that
any US military action would cause irreparable damage. Iran's you
(29:54):
An ambassador echoed that any direct US involvement alongside Israel
w trigger their own firm response. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman
went further, warning the US intervention could spark an all
out war across.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
The entire region.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Now, let me say one other thing that's very interesting
about all this is what's happening within the Democratic Party.
Many Democrats are staying silent on this, but some are
willing to stand up and stand on the issue, actually
backing Donald Trump and saying we need to go even further.
Insert Democratic Senator John Fetterman. Here's what he had to
(30:35):
say on Fox News Channel with Bill Hemmer.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Say show no mercy and if you have to take
the Supreme leader out, do it.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Explain your position now, Sir.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think they should have targeted him, absolutely
gone taking him out. I think the way Israel operates,
they just take out the leadership, just like they did
with Hesbola, and they've already done that with the Iranian leadership,
just took them out, even laying in their beds, and
they didn't take down the whole building. They actually targeted
where they lay in bed. And now they eliminated the
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military ones and the nuclear ones. That's magnificent and the
precision which they've done that, And I don't know why
they would have left the leader out.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
What comes after that if that reality were to take place.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Senator Well, I think the reality is is that that
you have a nation that just is in a position
where they have to be held accountable for what they've done.
They are the ones that built and created the proxies
like Hamas and Hezbollah and put our whole region in
this kind of chaos, and now they clearly have nuclear ambitions,
and now I think it's entirely I'm not sure if
(31:43):
I might have been the only one constantly calling them
to just take this facility out and to use the
B two and those gigantic bunker buster ones and partner
up with Israel what they've.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Done, Fetterman saying, I call all in Israel to eliminate
the Supreme leader without mercy. So that brings us to
the latest point where we are now. Is there a
very good chance that Donald Trump could in fact order
that we attack Iran's nuclear sites with those bunker busting bombs.
The answers yes, would there be bipartisan support?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Clearly? John Fetterman says he will join others.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
In the Republican Party advocating for this, which brings me
to my final point, what are the American people think
about the president stands?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Apparently in new polling, America stands overwhelmingly with Donald Trump
and Israel by staggeringly large numbers. Nearly seventy percent of
Americans say US airstrikes to stop Iran's nuclear ambitions are appropriate,
and the best part about it is who had to
report it?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
CNN listen carefully and overall, I.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's positions than
is comically acknowledged. Poser Iran getting a nuclear weapon. I mean,
look at this, Seventy nine percent of adults agree on
that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron cannot get.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
A nuclear weapon. Eighty three percent of.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Republicans, seventy nine percent of Independence, seventy nine percent of Democrats.
When you get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty
three percent of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that
that position is the very clear majority in this country.
And so the American public is with Donald Trump. They
definitely opposed in Ron.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Getting nuclear weapons. So this is a nuance here.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
But you know Trump and Nettino both arguing that Ron
is close to being capable of making a nuclear weapon.
If that is the case, what is the feeling of
Americans as to whether the United States should get involved
in this conflict?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Right?
Speaker 9 (33:39):
If you buy Donald Trump's theory of the case. And
I think that's important to note, this is polling from
April for Rans trying to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Look at this overall, you get the.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Slight plurality, I mean it's within the margin ember, but
the slight plurality of Americans actually favor US air strikes
compared to forty seven percent of posing it. Now here's
the other nugget. Will note, right, there's been a lot
of talk online and on social media and en podcasts
of a divide within the Republican ranks.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
But here on this question.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
If a rans trying to make a nuclear up, and
look at that sixty nine percent of Republicans, the clear
vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes on are
on on their nuclear facilities.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No doubt President Trump has a support of the American
people in overwhelming and staggering numbers. And for anyone out
there that's trying to tell you there's some massive divide
within MAGA country, they're just wrong. Basically, seventy percent of
the GOP favor US air strikes. This is a major
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number on such a quote controversial issue. So there may
actually be just propagandas out there, just like Tucker Carlson,
who are trying to act like there's some big divide
when clearly the Republican Party is standing with Donald Trump.
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