🕵️♂️ Whistleblower Claims
- A whistleblower from the Obama-era intelligence community alleges they were pressured and silenced when they tried to challenge the narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
- The whistleblower claims:
- Intelligence assessments were manipulated.
- Critical context was omitted from the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).
- There was pressure to align with a predetermined narrative favoring claims of Russian interference.
- Other foreign influences were ignored.
- Tulsi Gabbard is cited as having shared and supported the whistleblower’s claims on social media.
- The hosts argue this supports the idea that the “Russia hoax” was a politically motivated effort to undermine Donald Trump.
📚 Kamala Harris Critique
- The episode also critiques Kamala Harris’s appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert to promote her new book, 107 Days.
- The hosts mock:
- Her explanation for not running for governor of California.
- Her comments on democracy, the Supreme Court, and the Department of Education.
- Her perceived lack of leadership and clarity about who leads the Democratic Party.
- They argue that Harris and the Democratic Party are out of touch with voters and dismissive of democratic outcomes they disagree with.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good Monday morning. It's nice to have you with us.
It's Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you
as always and Centater. We've got a lot to cover,
including a whistleblower who has come forward revealing how they
were quote silenced and threatened to go along on the
Russia hoax. This another bombshell and the unraveling of the
deep state.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, every day it seems new news is breaking about
how the Obama administration deliberately concocted the Russia hoax to
go after President Donald Trump, and how they lied, how
they knew they were lying. We now have evidence that
the intelligence community for months had concluded that Russia was
not attempting to hack the election, and yet they deliberately
lied for political purposes. We've now had the story break
(00:43):
that Hillary Clinton personally approved the Russia hoax as a
way to distract from our own email scandal, and now
the latest, a whistleblower from within the Obama intelligence community
tried to blow the whistle, tried to stop, tried to
say this is a lie. The whistleblower was silenced, the
whistleblower was ignored, and we now have damning emails laying
(01:05):
out the record. We're going to tell you all about that.
We're also going to tell you about Kamala Harris. It
turns out, no, she was not kidnapped by space aliens. No,
she did not go into witness protection. She did the
next best thing, which is she went on Stephen Colbert's show,
and the four people watching her, they found out that
Kamala has a new book, the people of California. She's
not going to subject herself on them by running for governor. Instead,
(01:28):
she's trying to sell a book, and of course she's
with Colbert. We're going to tell you just how pitiful
that was. We're going to cover both of those on
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and talk about this whistleblower and what we've now learned.
This whistleblower revealing they were apparently threatened to go along
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with the Barack Obama directed Russia hoax.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, here's what Tulsey Gabberd tweeted out to the world. Quote,
new whistleblower reveals how they were threatened by a supervisor
to go along with the Obama I'm directed Russia hoax
intelligence assessment even though they knew it was not credible
or accurate. The whistleblower refused. Yesterday, we released the whistleblower's
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first hand account of what happened in the crafting of
the January twenty seventeen intelligence assessment. Their year's long effort
to expose the egregious manipulation and manufacturing of intelligence carried
out at the highest levels of government and the ice
detailed in our previous releases, and how they were repeatedly ignored.
(04:35):
Thank you to this courageous whistleblower and others who are
coming forward now putting their own well being on the
line to defend our democratic republic in sure the American
people know the truth and hold those responsible accountable. And
then read the whistleblower's explosive story with emails here and
(04:56):
she links to the entire story. We're going to go
through it right now, but it is this is damning
and there is a reason why under Joe Biden they
did everything they could to cover it up. Here's what
whistleblower says. Quote for the New twenty seventeen ICA I
was directed by blank to focus on Russian attempts to
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access US election related infrastructure. IC reporting suggested many Russia
tributed IP addresses were making connection attempts that the IC
could not explain the purpose of. Later, when presenting it's
blocked out who with our findings? Blocked out person directed
us to abandon any further study of the subject, saying
(05:41):
quote it's something else. In light of later development in
open source reporting, I came to have concerns about this
Russia attributed cyberactivity and the abrupt dismissal of the study effort.
In addition, I noted other nations efforts to influence the
twenty sixth extine presidential election, but this critical context was
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omitted from the twenty seventeen ICA. During conversion of the
twenty seventeen ICA to classified and unclassified versions, key context
was not included, and I was pressured to alter my
views on the twenty seventeen ICA's key judgments. With the
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expressed intent by and the name is blacked out that
my concurrence was sought to enable name blacked out to
sway the views of the Defense Intelligence Agency. The narrative
goes on between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty two. Through
first ten involvement, I became aware of multiple events that
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may have represented the use or attempted use of national
security authorities to influence domestic politics. I believe some of
these events may have influenced or been intended to influence
congressional and public perceptions of the twenty sixteen presidential election,
and I am concerned others may represent attempts to obstruct
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lawful oversight, and it continues with this quote. Through my
role in leading production of the prior twenty sixteen ICA,
I also knew that as recently a September of twenty sixteen,
other elements of the intelligence community had pushed back during
analytic coordination on warnings of Russian intent to influence the
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twenty sixteen presidential election, stating that such a judgment would
be misleading, misleadings underlined. Yet by January, at least one
of the intelligence community elements that had pushed back, the
Federal Bureau of Investigation had seemingly altered its position and
embraced a judgment of Russian intent to influence the election,
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seemingly without any new data other than the election's unexpected
result and public speculation that Russia had hacked the vote,
a scenario that we and the IC judged simply did
not occur. As for the twenty seventeen ICA's judgment of
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a decisive Russian pressure preference for then candidate Donald Trump,
I could not concur in good conscience based on information
available and my professional analytic judgment, I did not rule
the possibil ability out and was willing to be convinced,
But I was not offered access to any of the
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supposedly dispositive reporting. When I was asked to review it
as a one time read for almost anything relevant was
normally provided.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You've dealt with a lot of whistleblowers in your day,
and there's a lot to beople come forward. When I
was reading this, it was tweeted out by Tulsi and
then yeah, you can see the redactions here obviously, but
this actually to me seems like it's incredibly damning and
also just comp completely on par with the rest of
(09:03):
the story we've been told about the Russia hoax. It's like, yeah,
this matches up. This makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Look, it is clear that this was a lie. It
is clear that Barack Obama and the entire intelligence community
who peddled it to the American people, they knew it
was a lie. What we now know is that they
had whistleblowers within the intelligence community yelling from the mountaintops,
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this is a lie. This is a lie. This is
a lie. And the political actors who made the decision
to corrupt our law enforcement and intelligence operations did not
care about the truth. They were happy to lie. They
were happy to turn the machinery of the federal government
against the newly elected president. They wanted the newly elected
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president to fail, and what they were attempting was quite
literally a coup. It was to remove the president the
American people had just elected. I understand that they're of
a different party. I understand that they didn't vote for
Donald Trump. But nobody in our government has the right
to say, just because the person I don't like got
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elected president, I'm going to pervert the justice system to
attack them with lies to try to remove them. That
is profoundly corrupt, and I think it is also quite
likely illegal. I'm very glad that Pambondi and the Department
of Justices have created a strike force to investigate this
because the pattern of criminality, of knowing criminality, and we
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talked about in last week's pod, how the George Soros
Foundation did this very explicitly, according to emails that were released,
previously classified emails that were released, did it very explicitly
in concert with Hillary Clinton. She personally approved it in
the middle of the campaign, and they knew it was
just a political lie because she was concerned about the
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criticism she was getting for her email scandal, and so
they decided to concoct this lie to try to distract people.
And sadly, the FBI happily went along, the New York
Times happily went along, the Washington Post happily went along.
And every one of those supposedly impartial and unbiased institutions
has been demonstrated to have been profoundly corrupted.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What is your gut on what happens now? And I
say this because look, it's obvious that the I think
Donald Trump and his team and those Department of Justice, etc.
Told see the list goes on on, They obviously are
well read in on this. I doubt this whistle boiler
just came forward in the last day or two. They're
(11:45):
pretty well read in one where the ball is going
on this one? Do you believe this is a pretty
good indicator of what you can expect moving forward, that
this may genuinely be the tip of the iceberg?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah? I think more is coming. And what I've heard,
what I've verged Tulsi, what I've verged John Ratcliffe and
Pam Bondi and Cash Ptel is engage in radical transparency.
Let it all come out let it all be public.
I've also urged them to do the same thing with
COVID and doctor Fauci and the government's involvement in funding
(12:17):
research at the Wuhan Lab and what they knowingly covered up.
I think there was similarly a very deliberate cover up there,
and I expect we're going to get more direct evidence
of that in the coming weeks. I'm glad for that transparency.
I think it is owed to the American people. It's
the right thing to do, and it speaks volumes that
when Democrats were in charge, they had zero interest in
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anyone knowing what actually happened.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Final question on this one when you look at when
this comes out, and there's so many questions, Now, if
this whistle boy was telling the truth, No, reasonably they're not.
But is this also going to encourage others to come
forward to is? I mean a lot of times we'll
see the dominoes come out.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Look, I hope so and and Tulcy's tweet references other
whistleblowers coming forward, So there may be others as well.
They may have other whistleblower reports. It's possible they've been
rolling these out one every other day or so and
so there may be more that is coming. But if
someone is inside saw what is happening and was outraged,
this is indicating it's a time where people are interested
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in knowing the truth. That's a good sign. So I
hope it encourages anyone with knowledge of criminal conduct, with
knowledge of lives that were pushed by the Obama administration
in the Russia hoax, to come forward and make that
information public.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You talk about corruption. By the way, Kamala Harris, now
she's coming out on her book tour. Not a joke.
She kicked it off and joined The Late Show with
Stephen Colbert to do it. Harris coming out swinging, blasting
Scotus for forgetting what quote democracy and the rule of
law is quote unquote supposed to be. She also talked
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about her new book and the quote horrors of January
sixth on The Late Show at Colbert as well. I
mean this play a.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Little bit from her announcement video on her new book,
because I have to say, it's almost like a Saturday
Night Live skin Give it a play.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah it is. This is her real announcement of her
real book launch.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Just over a year ago. I launched my campaign for
President of the United States, one hundred and seven days
traveling the country, fighting for our future, the shortest presidential
campaign in modern history. It was intense, high stakes, and
deeply personal for me and for so many of you.
(14:38):
Since leaving office, I've spent a lot of time reflecting
on those days, talking with my team, my family, my friends,
and pulling my thoughts together. In essence, writing a journal
that is this book one hundred and seven days. With
candor and reflection, I've written a behind the scenes account
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of that journey. I believe there's value in sharing what
I saw, what I learned, and what I know it
will take to move forward. In writing this book, one
truth kept coming back to me. Sometimes the fight takes
a while, but I remain full of hope and I
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remain clear eyed. I will never stop fighting to make
our country reflect the very best of its ideals. Always
on behalf of the people. So thank you for being
in this fight with me. I am forever grateful and
I cannot wait for you to read this and I'll
see you out there. Take care.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean, it is Saturday Live worthy. It's also one
of the funniest things ever because she's basically saying oh,
by the way, I'm not going to run for governor
in California. That came up as well, and it's like,
here's my book on how bad my campaign sucked, but
I'll rewrite the history and that and oh, by the way,
I'm basically saying I'm probably gonna run again.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well, you know the script that she's reading there, that's
clearly a script she's reading from a telepropter. And I
just sort of love with candor and reflection, a behind
the scenes tale. And look, it's so clearly written by
a book publicist. The chances that there is anything resembling
candor or reflection in this book are zero point zero percent.
(16:23):
There is not. This is a a sanitized, whitewashed version
of how you know, the good ship Lollipop was was
derailed by by evil Donald J. Trump, by by evil voters.
Oh those voters. And I got to say, it's interesting
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how little candor and reflection Kamala has. I want you
to listen to her with Stephen Colbert. And if there
is an even less gracious, kind, balanced, normal person on
TV than Stephen Colbert, I don't know who that is.
This is one partisan shrill to another, but listen to
(17:08):
how neither one of them has learned anything from the
twenty twenty four election. Give a listen.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
This is a time for people to you know, I mean, look,
we designed our democracy with three independent, co equal branches
of government. I mean, when you see that the President
of the United States is trying to get rid of
the Department of Education, and Congress has the role and
responsibility to stand in the way of that, and they're
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just sitting on their hands, and then they go on
recess because they don't want to deal with transparency.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And the Supreme Court says, and the Supreme Court says
that he can ignore law that established it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, but the Supreme Court, we knew what they were doing.
Remember I talked about it in one hundred and seven days.
I don't put that in the book.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
By the way, this is about this is an exclusive
for the Stephen Colbert Show. But the Supreme Court basically
gave whoever would be president.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
When I was in the campaign, I talking immunity. Immunity
we talked about So we're not surprised what the Supreme
Court is doing. And God thanked those members of the
Court who are brilliant, the sents and remind us of
what the democracy and the rule of law is supposed
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to be.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know, you hear that and it's like, what are
you even talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
There's so much in what she's saying that is incoherent
and wrong. Let's start off where she's saying. Okay, the
President is trying to abolish the Department of Education and
Congresses is refusing to do its jobs. No, we actually
agree with abolishing the Department of Education. This was something
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that the President campaigned on. And the reason the American
people agree with abolishing the federal Department of Education, it's
not because education doesn't matter, but precisely the opposite, because
it matters so much that people are ticked off that
a bunch of left wing, woke bureaucrats that you and
Joe Biden appointed tried to take over schools, tried to
indoctrinate kids, tried to push Marxist ideology in our children,
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and tried to convince them the boys were girls and
girls were boys, and tried to let boys compete in
girls sports and force this on schools. And the red
tape and the bureaucracy and the waste and the ideology
from the Department of education is precisely why President Trump
is working to abolish it. And I've actually had Democrat
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senators say to me very much what Kamala is, Well, well,
we're just the Senate is irrelevant because you're not stopping this.
It's like, no, the Senate is relevant. In fact, we're
voting on it. At one senator say this to me
when we voted to shut down NPR and PBS. She
was like, how can you be doing this? The Senate's
not doing our job. I'm like, no, we're precisely doing
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our job. The American people are interested in spending billions
of dollars to fund left wing propaganda. The irony is
Kamala frames what she's saying as a defensive democracy. What
she's mad at is democracy. What she's mad at is
the American people elected Donald Trump. What she's mad at
is the American people elected a Republican House. What she's
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mad at is the American people elected a Republican Senate.
And she's really really mad that President Trump and the
Republican Senate and the Republican House are doing what they
said they would do. In other words, they are honoring
and respecting democracy by carrying out the campaign promises they
told the American people, and that infuriates them. And the
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irony of her claiming that she believes in democracy. This
was an administration, the Biden Harris administration that repeatedly indicted
her political opponent, Donald Trump. This was an administration. Democrats
across the country try to remove Trump's name from the
ballot because nothing says protecting democracy like stopping the voters
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from voting for your opponent. This is an administration. Kamala
Harris has demonstrated utter and complete contempt for democracy. And
so when she says, well, gosh, we must defend democracy,
what she means is we need radical left wing policies
and if the voters don't like them, to hell with
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the voters. We want them anyway. That's what she's saying.
And by the way, when she's denouncing the courts, what
she's really saying is she wants radical unelected judges to
ignore the will of the voters, to ignore democracy, and
to force her very unpopular policies on the American people anyway.
Doing things like she doesn't want illegal immigrants, Venezuelan gang members,
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murderers and rapists and child molester her She doesn't want
them arrested, she doesn't want them deported, and she wants
these radical judges that she was responsible along with Joe
Biden for appointing, to stand up and say, we don't
care what the American people voted for. We are going
to decreate release more illegal immigrants into your neighborhood. Because
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that's who the Democrat Party represents today.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
By the way, you mentioned represent the Democratic Party. Kama
Harris was asked a question by Stephen Colbert and it's
one that went viral. It is the biggest question that's
being asked in the political world right now. Who is
in charge of the Democratic Party? And I want you
to hear this word, salad and get your take on it.
(22:35):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Who's leaving the Democratic Party. I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
There are lots of leaders and we're generally.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
A leader of the Democratic Party, you know, like, oh,
that's the leader Donative Party. Who comes to mind.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I think there are a lot of I'm not going
to go through names because then I'm going to leave
somebody out and then I'm going to hear about it.
But let me just let me say this. I think
it is a mistake for us who want to figure
out how to get out and through this and get
out of it. To put it on the shoulders of
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any one person, it's really on all of our shoulders.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
All of our shoulders. It's not a great answer, is it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Well, Look, look, I actually have a little bit of
sympathy for her, because there's no way to answer that.
The real answer is there is no leader of the
Democrat Party. They are leaderless. They are rudderless. They are
running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Look,
who would you say. You could say Chuck Schumer. But
Chuck Schumer's not leading anything. He's utterly terrified of AOC.
Whatever AOC in the squad demands, that's what Schumer does.
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So she's not gonna say Chuck Schumer because the audience
would laugh if she said Chuck Schumer. They'd laugh if
she said a Keen Jeffries. Most of them would say,
who's that? Like, he's not leading anything. He's just in
the House, and in both the Senate and House. Schumer
and Jeffries are essentially just in by rage and hatred
to Donald Trump. They don't have an agenda beyond open
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borders and lawlessness and hatred to Donald Trump. That's the
entirety of the Democrat Party. And then beyond that, you've
got all their ambitious governors. You know, Gavin Newsom is
desperately trying to be super liberal and supermoderate whatever you want,
and slick it all around. And suddenly he knows boys
aren't girls until tomorrow and then boys are girls. But
she can't say him either, and so there is no
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answer she can give because this is a rudderless party.
And to the extent there is a leader, it is
the pro Hamas contingent, It is AOC, it is ilhan Omar.
It is the extreme left wing squad that is driving
the rest of the party and that everyone else in
the party is terrified of.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, it's amazing. It is actually fun for once to
watch the Democratic Party from top to bottom being just
complete and utter disarray, because, honest.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You got to play one more clip. You got to
play the clip when when when Colbert asked if she
was running for governor.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, this is amazing. Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Today, you made an announcement that you're not running for
the governor of California. Correct, You said you're going to
set this one out, Why are you saying this? Are
you saving yourself for a different office that obviously people
will project onto.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And honestly that it's more perhaps basic than that. I
am Listen, I am a devout public servant. I have
spent my entire career in service of the people. But
to be very candid with you, I had to defend
my decision to become a prosecutor with my family is
(25:44):
why is it then, when we think we want to
improve a system or change it, that we're always on
the outside on Ben Didnee or trying to break down
the door. Shouldn't we also be inside the system? And
that has been my career. Recently, I made the decision
that I just now I don't want to go back
in the system. I think it's broken.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think it's broken. You can't make that up either.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But you know what's broken about it?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What is the head that she lost?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's her whole definition of whether the system is working
or it's broken. It is broken because the American people
voted for Donald Trump and not for Kamala Harris. It
is broken because the American people voted for a Republican Senate,
not a Democrat Senate. It is broken and in her
view because the American people voted for a Republican House
and not a Democrat house. In her view, democracy the
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system only works when she and other left wing lunatics
are in power. That's how she defines whether it's working
or whether it's broken. It is purely it is one
hundred percent about power. And look, look part of why,
to be honest, you and I we don't listen to
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Stephen Colbert, and we very rarely listened to Kamala Harris.
The reason why we're playing this exchange is because it
really does show that there's not a moment of reflection.
You know what she had in her book promo about
candor and whatever, There's none of that. She continues four
years of a disastrous agenda, open borders, twelve million illegal immigrants,
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the worst illegal immigration in our nation's history. She takes
no responsibility for that, doesn't acknowledge that, abandoning all of
our friends and allies, going from peace and prosperity to
two simultaneous wars across the globe. She takes no responsibility
for that. The Democrat Party becoming rabidly anti Semitic, her
funders funding violent anti Semitic riots on college campuses. She
(27:43):
takes no responsibility for that. That there's not at all
an acknowledgment of Gosh, people voted for Donald Trump in
significant part because they were really, really really unhappy with
the radical policies that Joe Biden Kamala Harris put in place.
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No acknowledgment of that at all, and their view the
system is broken. Why because the democracy is functioning. To
her mind, if the voters can vote her out, the
system is broken. That is the essence of the contempt
that today's Democrat party has for big D democracy.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
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Good Monday morning. It's nice to have you with us.
It's Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you
as always and Centater. We've got a lot to cover,
including a whistleblower who has come forward revealing how they
were quote silenced and threatened to go along on the
Russia hoax. This another bombshell and the unraveling of the
deep state.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, every day it seems new news is breaking about
how the Obama administration deliberately concocted the Russia hoax to
go after President Donald Trump, and how they lied, how
they knew they were lying. We now have evidence that
the intelligence community for months had concluded that Russia was
not attempting to hack the election, and yet they deliberately
lied for political purposes. We've now had the story break
(00:43):
that Hillary Clinton personally approved the Russia hoax as a
way to distract from our own email scandal, and now
the latest, a whistleblower from within the Obama intelligence community
tried to blow the whistle, tried to stop, tried to
say this is a lie. The whistleblower was silenced, the
whistleblower was ignored, and we now have damning emails laying
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next best thing, which is she went on Stephen Colbert's show,
and the four people watching her, they found out that
Kamala has a new book, the people of California. She's
not going to subject herself on them by running for governor. Instead,
(01:28):
she's trying to sell a book, and of course she's
with Colbert. We're going to tell you just how pitiful
that was. We're going to cover both of those on
today's pod.
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and talk about this whistleblower and what we've now learned.
This whistleblower revealing they were apparently threatened to go along
(03:46):
with the Barack Obama directed Russia hoax.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, here's what Tulsey Gabberd tweeted out to the world. Quote,
new whistleblower reveals how they were threatened by a supervisor
to go along with the Obama I'm directed Russia hoax
intelligence assessment even though they knew it was not credible
or accurate. The whistleblower refused. Yesterday, we released the whistleblower's
(04:13):
first hand account of what happened in the crafting of
the January twenty seventeen intelligence assessment. Their year's long effort
to expose the egregious manipulation and manufacturing of intelligence carried
out at the highest levels of government and the ice
detailed in our previous releases, and how they were repeatedly ignored.
(04:35):
Thank you to this courageous whistleblower and others who are
coming forward now putting their own well being on the
line to defend our democratic republic in sure the American
people know the truth and hold those responsible accountable. And
then read the whistleblower's explosive story with emails here and
(04:56):
she links to the entire story. We're going to go
through it right now, but it is this is damning
and there is a reason why under Joe Biden they
did everything they could to cover it up. Here's what
whistleblower says. Quote for the New twenty seventeen ICA I
was directed by blank to focus on Russian attempts to
(05:19):
access US election related infrastructure. IC reporting suggested many Russia
tributed IP addresses were making connection attempts that the IC
could not explain the purpose of. Later, when presenting it's
blocked out who with our findings? Blocked out person directed
us to abandon any further study of the subject, saying
(05:41):
quote it's something else. In light of later development in
open source reporting, I came to have concerns about this
Russia attributed cyberactivity and the abrupt dismissal of the study effort.
In addition, I noted other nations efforts to influence the
twenty sixth extine presidential election, but this critical context was
(06:03):
omitted from the twenty seventeen ICA. During conversion of the
twenty seventeen ICA to classified and unclassified versions, key context
was not included, and I was pressured to alter my
views on the twenty seventeen ICA's key judgments. With the
(06:24):
expressed intent by and the name is blacked out that
my concurrence was sought to enable name blacked out to
sway the views of the Defense Intelligence Agency. The narrative
goes on between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty two. Through
first ten involvement, I became aware of multiple events that
(06:44):
may have represented the use or attempted use of national
security authorities to influence domestic politics. I believe some of
these events may have influenced or been intended to influence
congressional and public perceptions of the twenty sixteen presidential election,
and I am concerned others may represent attempts to obstruct
(07:04):
lawful oversight, and it continues with this quote. Through my
role in leading production of the prior twenty sixteen ICA,
I also knew that as recently a September of twenty sixteen,
other elements of the intelligence community had pushed back during
analytic coordination on warnings of Russian intent to influence the
(07:25):
twenty sixteen presidential election, stating that such a judgment would
be misleading, misleadings underlined. Yet by January, at least one
of the intelligence community elements that had pushed back, the
Federal Bureau of Investigation had seemingly altered its position and
embraced a judgment of Russian intent to influence the election,
(07:49):
seemingly without any new data other than the election's unexpected
result and public speculation that Russia had hacked the vote,
a scenario that we and the IC judged simply did
not occur. As for the twenty seventeen ICA's judgment of
(08:09):
a decisive Russian pressure preference for then candidate Donald Trump,
I could not concur in good conscience based on information
available and my professional analytic judgment, I did not rule
the possibil ability out and was willing to be convinced,
But I was not offered access to any of the
(08:30):
supposedly dispositive reporting. When I was asked to review it
as a one time read for almost anything relevant was
normally provided.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You've dealt with a lot of whistleblowers in your day,
and there's a lot to beople come forward. When I
was reading this, it was tweeted out by Tulsi and
then yeah, you can see the redactions here obviously, but
this actually to me seems like it's incredibly damning and
also just comp completely on par with the rest of
(09:03):
the story we've been told about the Russia hoax. It's like, yeah,
this matches up. This makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Look, it is clear that this was a lie. It
is clear that Barack Obama and the entire intelligence community
who peddled it to the American people, they knew it
was a lie. What we now know is that they
had whistleblowers within the intelligence community yelling from the mountaintops,
(09:29):
this is a lie. This is a lie. This is
a lie. And the political actors who made the decision
to corrupt our law enforcement and intelligence operations did not
care about the truth. They were happy to lie. They
were happy to turn the machinery of the federal government
against the newly elected president. They wanted the newly elected
(09:51):
president to fail, and what they were attempting was quite
literally a coup. It was to remove the president the
American people had just elected. I understand that they're of
a different party. I understand that they didn't vote for
Donald Trump. But nobody in our government has the right
to say, just because the person I don't like got
(10:13):
elected president, I'm going to pervert the justice system to
attack them with lies to try to remove them. That
is profoundly corrupt, and I think it is also quite
likely illegal. I'm very glad that Pambondi and the Department
of Justices have created a strike force to investigate this
because the pattern of criminality, of knowing criminality, and we
(10:36):
talked about in last week's pod, how the George Soros
Foundation did this very explicitly, according to emails that were released,
previously classified emails that were released, did it very explicitly
in concert with Hillary Clinton. She personally approved it in
the middle of the campaign, and they knew it was
just a political lie because she was concerned about the
(10:59):
criticism she was getting for her email scandal, and so
they decided to concoct this lie to try to distract people.
And sadly, the FBI happily went along, the New York
Times happily went along, the Washington Post happily went along.
And every one of those supposedly impartial and unbiased institutions
has been demonstrated to have been profoundly corrupted.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What is your gut on what happens now? And I
say this because look, it's obvious that the I think
Donald Trump and his team and those Department of Justice, etc.
Told see the list goes on on, They obviously are
well read in on this. I doubt this whistle boiler
just came forward in the last day or two. They're
(11:45):
pretty well read in one where the ball is going
on this one? Do you believe this is a pretty
good indicator of what you can expect moving forward, that
this may genuinely be the tip of the iceberg?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah? I think more is coming. And what I've heard,
what I've verged Tulsi, what I've verged John Ratcliffe and
Pam Bondi and Cash Ptel is engage in radical transparency.
Let it all come out let it all be public.
I've also urged them to do the same thing with
COVID and doctor Fauci and the government's involvement in funding
(12:17):
research at the Wuhan Lab and what they knowingly covered up.
I think there was similarly a very deliberate cover up there,
and I expect we're going to get more direct evidence
of that in the coming weeks. I'm glad for that transparency.
I think it is owed to the American people. It's
the right thing to do, and it speaks volumes that
when Democrats were in charge, they had zero interest in
(12:40):
anyone knowing what actually happened.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Final question on this one when you look at when
this comes out, and there's so many questions, Now, if
this whistle boy was telling the truth, No, reasonably they're not.
But is this also going to encourage others to come
forward to is? I mean a lot of times we'll
see the dominoes come out.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Look, I hope so and and Tulcy's tweet references other
whistleblowers coming forward, So there may be others as well.
They may have other whistleblower reports. It's possible they've been
rolling these out one every other day or so and
so there may be more that is coming. But if
someone is inside saw what is happening and was outraged,
this is indicating it's a time where people are interested
(13:23):
in knowing the truth. That's a good sign. So I
hope it encourages anyone with knowledge of criminal conduct, with
knowledge of lives that were pushed by the Obama administration
in the Russia hoax, to come forward and make that
information public.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You talk about corruption. By the way, Kamala Harris, now
she's coming out on her book tour. Not a joke.
She kicked it off and joined The Late Show with
Stephen Colbert to do it. Harris coming out swinging, blasting
Scotus for forgetting what quote democracy and the rule of
law is quote unquote supposed to be. She also talked
(13:58):
about her new book and the quote horrors of January
sixth on The Late Show at Colbert as well. I
mean this play a.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Little bit from her announcement video on her new book,
because I have to say, it's almost like a Saturday
Night Live skin Give it a play.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah it is. This is her real announcement of her
real book launch.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Just over a year ago. I launched my campaign for
President of the United States, one hundred and seven days
traveling the country, fighting for our future, the shortest presidential
campaign in modern history. It was intense, high stakes, and
deeply personal for me and for so many of you.
(14:38):
Since leaving office, I've spent a lot of time reflecting
on those days, talking with my team, my family, my friends,
and pulling my thoughts together. In essence, writing a journal
that is this book one hundred and seven days. With
candor and reflection, I've written a behind the scenes account
(15:00):
of that journey. I believe there's value in sharing what
I saw, what I learned, and what I know it
will take to move forward. In writing this book, one
truth kept coming back to me. Sometimes the fight takes
a while, but I remain full of hope and I
(15:20):
remain clear eyed. I will never stop fighting to make
our country reflect the very best of its ideals. Always
on behalf of the people. So thank you for being
in this fight with me. I am forever grateful and
I cannot wait for you to read this and I'll
see you out there. Take care.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean, it is Saturday Live worthy. It's also one
of the funniest things ever because she's basically saying oh,
by the way, I'm not going to run for governor
in California. That came up as well, and it's like,
here's my book on how bad my campaign sucked, but
I'll rewrite the history and that and oh, by the way,
I'm basically saying I'm probably gonna run again.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well, you know the script that she's reading there, that's
clearly a script she's reading from a telepropter. And I
just sort of love with candor and reflection, a behind
the scenes tale. And look, it's so clearly written by
a book publicist. The chances that there is anything resembling
candor or reflection in this book are zero point zero percent.
(16:23):
There is not. This is a a sanitized, whitewashed version
of how you know, the good ship Lollipop was was
derailed by by evil Donald J. Trump, by by evil voters.
Oh those voters. And I got to say, it's interesting
(16:47):
how little candor and reflection Kamala has. I want you
to listen to her with Stephen Colbert. And if there
is an even less gracious, kind, balanced, normal person on
TV than Stephen Colbert, I don't know who that is.
This is one partisan shrill to another, but listen to
(17:08):
how neither one of them has learned anything from the
twenty twenty four election. Give a listen.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
This is a time for people to you know, I mean, look,
we designed our democracy with three independent, co equal branches
of government. I mean, when you see that the President
of the United States is trying to get rid of
the Department of Education, and Congress has the role and
responsibility to stand in the way of that, and they're
(17:36):
just sitting on their hands, and then they go on
recess because they don't want to deal with transparency.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And the Supreme Court says, and the Supreme Court says
that he can ignore law that established it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, but the Supreme Court, we knew what they were doing.
Remember I talked about it in one hundred and seven days.
I don't put that in the book.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
By the way, this is about this is an exclusive
for the Stephen Colbert Show. But the Supreme Court basically
gave whoever would be president.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
When I was in the campaign, I talking immunity. Immunity
we talked about So we're not surprised what the Supreme
Court is doing. And God thanked those members of the
Court who are brilliant, the sents and remind us of
what the democracy and the rule of law is supposed
(18:27):
to be.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know, you hear that and it's like, what are
you even talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
There's so much in what she's saying that is incoherent
and wrong. Let's start off where she's saying. Okay, the
President is trying to abolish the Department of Education and
Congresses is refusing to do its jobs. No, we actually
agree with abolishing the Department of Education. This was something
(18:55):
that the President campaigned on. And the reason the American
people agree with abolishing the federal Department of Education, it's
not because education doesn't matter, but precisely the opposite, because
it matters so much that people are ticked off that
a bunch of left wing, woke bureaucrats that you and
Joe Biden appointed tried to take over schools, tried to
indoctrinate kids, tried to push Marxist ideology in our children,
(19:17):
and tried to convince them the boys were girls and
girls were boys, and tried to let boys compete in
girls sports and force this on schools. And the red
tape and the bureaucracy and the waste and the ideology
from the Department of education is precisely why President Trump
is working to abolish it. And I've actually had Democrat
(19:37):
senators say to me very much what Kamala is, Well, well,
we're just the Senate is irrelevant because you're not stopping this.
It's like, no, the Senate is relevant. In fact, we're
voting on it. At one senator say this to me
when we voted to shut down NPR and PBS. She
was like, how can you be doing this? The Senate's
not doing our job. I'm like, no, we're precisely doing
(19:58):
our job. The American people are interested in spending billions
of dollars to fund left wing propaganda. The irony is
Kamala frames what she's saying as a defensive democracy. What
she's mad at is democracy. What she's mad at is
the American people elected Donald Trump. What she's mad at
is the American people elected a Republican House. What she's
(20:19):
mad at is the American people elected a Republican Senate.
And she's really really mad that President Trump and the
Republican Senate and the Republican House are doing what they
said they would do. In other words, they are honoring
and respecting democracy by carrying out the campaign promises they
told the American people, and that infuriates them. And the
(20:40):
irony of her claiming that she believes in democracy. This
was an administration, the Biden Harris administration that repeatedly indicted
her political opponent, Donald Trump. This was an administration. Democrats
across the country try to remove Trump's name from the
ballot because nothing says protecting democracy like stopping the voters
(21:04):
from voting for your opponent. This is an administration. Kamala
Harris has demonstrated utter and complete contempt for democracy. And
so when she says, well, gosh, we must defend democracy,
what she means is we need radical left wing policies
and if the voters don't like them, to hell with
(21:26):
the voters. We want them anyway. That's what she's saying.
And by the way, when she's denouncing the courts, what
she's really saying is she wants radical unelected judges to
ignore the will of the voters, to ignore democracy, and
to force her very unpopular policies on the American people anyway.
Doing things like she doesn't want illegal immigrants, Venezuelan gang members,
(21:51):
murderers and rapists and child molester her She doesn't want
them arrested, she doesn't want them deported, and she wants
these radical judges that she was responsible along with Joe
Biden for appointing, to stand up and say, we don't
care what the American people voted for. We are going
to decreate release more illegal immigrants into your neighborhood. Because
(22:11):
that's who the Democrat Party represents today.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
By the way, you mentioned represent the Democratic Party. Kama
Harris was asked a question by Stephen Colbert and it's
one that went viral. It is the biggest question that's
being asked in the political world right now. Who is
in charge of the Democratic Party? And I want you
to hear this word, salad and get your take on it.
(22:35):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Who's leaving the Democratic Party. I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
There are lots of leaders and we're generally.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
A leader of the Democratic Party, you know, like, oh,
that's the leader Donative Party. Who comes to mind.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I think there are a lot of I'm not going
to go through names because then I'm going to leave
somebody out and then I'm going to hear about it.
But let me just let me say this. I think
it is a mistake for us who want to figure
out how to get out and through this and get
out of it. To put it on the shoulders of
(23:10):
any one person, it's really on all of our shoulders.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
All of our shoulders. It's not a great answer, is it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Well, Look, look, I actually have a little bit of
sympathy for her, because there's no way to answer that.
The real answer is there is no leader of the
Democrat Party. They are leaderless. They are rudderless. They are
running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Look,
who would you say. You could say Chuck Schumer. But
Chuck Schumer's not leading anything. He's utterly terrified of AOC.
Whatever AOC in the squad demands, that's what Schumer does.
(23:43):
So she's not gonna say Chuck Schumer because the audience
would laugh if she said Chuck Schumer. They'd laugh if
she said a Keen Jeffries. Most of them would say,
who's that? Like, he's not leading anything. He's just in
the House, and in both the Senate and House. Schumer
and Jeffries are essentially just in by rage and hatred
to Donald Trump. They don't have an agenda beyond open
(24:04):
borders and lawlessness and hatred to Donald Trump. That's the
entirety of the Democrat Party. And then beyond that, you've
got all their ambitious governors. You know, Gavin Newsom is
desperately trying to be super liberal and supermoderate whatever you want,
and slick it all around. And suddenly he knows boys
aren't girls until tomorrow and then boys are girls. But
she can't say him either, and so there is no
(24:26):
answer she can give because this is a rudderless party.
And to the extent there is a leader, it is
the pro Hamas contingent, It is AOC, it is ilhan Omar.
It is the extreme left wing squad that is driving
the rest of the party and that everyone else in
the party is terrified of.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, it's amazing. It is actually fun for once to
watch the Democratic Party from top to bottom being just
complete and utter disarray, because, honest.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You got to play one more clip. You got to
play the clip when when when Colbert asked if she
was running for governor.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, this is amazing. Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Today, you made an announcement that you're not running for
the governor of California. Correct, You said you're going to
set this one out, Why are you saying this? Are
you saving yourself for a different office that obviously people
will project onto.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And honestly that it's more perhaps basic than that. I
am Listen, I am a devout public servant. I have
spent my entire career in service of the people. But
to be very candid with you, I had to defend
my decision to become a prosecutor with my family is
(25:44):
why is it then, when we think we want to
improve a system or change it, that we're always on
the outside on Ben Didnee or trying to break down
the door. Shouldn't we also be inside the system? And
that has been my career. Recently, I made the decision
that I just now I don't want to go back
in the system. I think it's broken.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think it's broken. You can't make that up either.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But you know what's broken about it?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What is the head that she lost?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's her whole definition of whether the system is working
or it's broken. It is broken because the American people
voted for Donald Trump and not for Kamala Harris. It
is broken because the American people voted for a Republican Senate,
not a Democrat Senate. It is broken and in her
view because the American people voted for a Republican House
and not a Democrat house. In her view, democracy the
(26:36):
system only works when she and other left wing lunatics
are in power. That's how she defines whether it's working
or whether it's broken. It is purely it is one
hundred percent about power. And look, look part of why,
to be honest, you and I we don't listen to
(26:56):
Stephen Colbert, and we very rarely listened to Kamala Harris.
The reason why we're playing this exchange is because it
really does show that there's not a moment of reflection.
You know what she had in her book promo about
candor and whatever, There's none of that. She continues four
years of a disastrous agenda, open borders, twelve million illegal immigrants,
(27:21):
the worst illegal immigration in our nation's history. She takes
no responsibility for that, doesn't acknowledge that, abandoning all of
our friends and allies, going from peace and prosperity to
two simultaneous wars across the globe. She takes no responsibility
for that. The Democrat Party becoming rabidly anti Semitic, her
funders funding violent anti Semitic riots on college campuses. She
(27:43):
takes no responsibility for that. That there's not at all
an acknowledgment of Gosh, people voted for Donald Trump in
significant part because they were really, really really unhappy with
the radical policies that Joe Biden Kamala Harris put in place.
(28:04):
No acknowledgment of that at all, and their view the
system is broken. Why because the democracy is functioning. To
her mind, if the voters can vote her out, the
system is broken. That is the essence of the contempt
that today's Democrat party has for big D democracy.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
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