Out Of Context: GloRilla and Charlamagne Tha God

In This Episode of "Out of Context" Glorilla sits down for an interview with Charlamagne Tha God.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We gotta do.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Mike Sech.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Big Glow, what do you do? How are you? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm great? How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm blessed, black and Holly famous. You know, before I
do these conversations, I like to send an attention. So
my intention for this conversation is for people to listen
to this interview and then go listen to your music
with a different ear so they can recognize the anointing
that God has on Gloria Hallelujah Ward's life.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's the intention. Now.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I know h negative tweets we having an impact on you,
but I'm gonna read you a positive tweet somebody said
about you.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I had a young lady named Julia Brown.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Sugar Baker posted a video working out the whole on
and she said, I need Glorilla to write a devotional
book of daily affirmations. She says Glow makes her feel
like she's a young person and reminds her that I
can do all things through Christ.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
That is how do you receive that when you hear it?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I love seeing stuff like this like oh wow, I
really like I speak of certain message to you to
make you feel like this like it make me feel
great and.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I don't think you realize how much Gloriala music I
listened to. And one thing I've grown to understand about
you is there is a difference between Gloriala the rapper
and Gloria Hallelujah Woods. But Gloria Hallelujah be popping up too,
and she be rapping as well. So what's the difference
between Gloriala and Gloria.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I ain't gonna say it's a hurge difference. It ain't
a hurge difference. But I'm gonna say, like, I'm just
one hundred percent aggressive. It like straight talking shit when
I rap. You know what I'm saying, it's straight like,
but in real life, I'm like, ask you a nice.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Put it full south.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah. So the hostelity, you know, I'm just I'm cooler,
like I ain't as mean like people think, like how
I rap? I'm agressed with this how I am? But
I'm actually nice.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
A lot of artists, man, you know, they put out
projects before their debut album, and they put out so
much music and then when the when the debut album
comes out, there's really no difference. With you, I can
hear the elevation of the art, so what was your
approach to me Glorious your debut album Special.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was just like, so I had dropped my EP,
of course, and then it was like last year I
was working on my album and it's like I was
just overthinking it a lot, like because I know I
wanted it to be big, this could be my first album,
and I kind of got out track a little bit.
And then that's when I made my mixtape because I'm like, Okay,
that put me back on track to where I needed
to be.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's the everything. Everything.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, Okay, so when I dropped everything, everything, he just
gave me, like he gave me my confidence back, sleek glass,
my confidence a little bit. And then I was just like, Okay,
when I make this album, I got to touch different subjects.
You know what I'm saying, Like I don't just want
it to be a body of work talking about the
same shit, Like I want to talk about different things
in the happen.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Did you lose your confidence because of what other people
were saying and just because you were putting much fresh
on yourself both of them?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Okay, Yeah, like I was trying to I was overthinking
too hard when trying to go too big and then
the people came to and I kind of just lost
a little bit of my confidence.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
In the intro, you say, be humble, that kacky shit
take you down. Now, did you have a moment when
you first started popping or you was feeling yourself and
it was impacting your career anyway?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I ain't never gee cocky like I really wanted talking
about myself right there, you know, because I feel it
was stay home. I ain't never got to a point
where I was just kaky, like got my nose through
and stuff like kind of got cocked tour like, yeah,
I know on me, but like not the other type
of KACKI.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're talking to other people.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, okay, Now in the Last Dance, right, Michael Jordan
takes a lot of things personal and it motivates HM.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You've seen the last nas the Michael Jordan like, man,
oh you need to watch it. He takes he takes
everything personal.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And you posted how you booked Mark the tweet of
someone saying you fell off so fast and so bad
and they.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Put a battery in your back.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
What did you feel in that moment and how did
you use that from that tweet to your advantage?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Because for a minute. I ain't think it could happen
because I know my ability, my rapping ability, and so
when I started seeing a lot of people say that
and seeing shit like that, and I'm like, oh, okay,
so y'all playing with me, I'm gonna show you like
I'm the like person. I like to prove people wrong
and I like to show people like, this is what
you think. I'm gonna show you this.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Why do you think they felt like that so fast though?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Because I saw one person tweet from like made to
like it was only like no Vember, it was on
like five or six, once you had been up.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Why they wanted you to fall so bad? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think they speak kind of do that to almost everybody,
especially female artists. I don't know why, but they wanted
me to fall off so bad. I don't know. Why.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Is it true that you are home school until the
fifth grade? Why?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Because my mama wanted us to She ain't want us
to be of the world. This few to say, she
wanted to keep us like. My mama was like she
a super Christian and so yeah, she ain't want us
to be in the world. I guess a super Christian
Christian like my mama, Like, like my mom will go
to churches as many times the church open, my mama there,

(05:04):
she could be there seven days a week. She's gonna
be there.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And you got with nine siblings, right, all of them
have some type of religious reference in there because you
had a Louis, because they're like an a man and
the other things.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, like she named a lot of those names out
of the bath. But like my brother named Daniel, my
little sister night miracle, my youngest brother named Joshua, and
she say, uh, that's the Hebrew name for Jesus, Jesus.
And she was like this our lad child, and she
was like it is finished like this with Jesus sit
on the cross. So yeah, she did do a lot

(05:37):
about biling career forces with us.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Did that put a lot of pressure on you when
you were young to like always try to be perfect?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
M M. Now I knew I want no bad was perfect.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
You knew that early, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Also in the intro you also say police pulled me over,
caught me sleeping, but I'm sober now, And then later
on you say, yeah, you make mistakes, but don't nothing
be the failure but to try and we all saw
the video of you getting pulled over for the for
the d uy What did that that moment teach you?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
What I said in the song?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah? Yeah, did you know that in that moment?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Know what in the moment, like then you knew in
that moment like Okay, I'm about this was a mistake,
but I'm gonna learn from it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, I really can't speak too much on there
right now.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh all right, okay, you said at the end of
the intro you love criticism, Yeah, and people always make
you feel crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So how have you learned to deal with critics and
hate us to just.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Prove them wrong? Give you time because they're gonna always
come back around and hop back on the train every time.
Like a lot of time when the hate come, it
be bandwagon hate, Like they only hate you because the
next person I.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Don't even know if they really be actually listening to
the music for real. Are they just get on social
media and see what a few other people saying exactly,
and then they like, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
What, let me let me let me get get involved
with the with the mob real quick. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I love how one hold on you say you popping
it so hard because you ain't used to ship.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Do you ever think you will get to a point
where you get you to this life?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I still ain't got used to it is now, Like
I still certain shit happened. I'd be like, Wow, this
is really me, this is really my life. And so
that's why I like, I just be like stunning the
way I do, because back then I ain't never peach
it is doing on. Like I knew I had a dream.
I knew it was a possibility, but I didn't know
it was gonna happen happen for real? Really mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You seem like the type of person like that that
can manifest things.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Do Yeah, what you want your life to be?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
What are you can manifest? And when it really happen,
you like, oh shit, it really happened. Like I'm shocked,
Really are you?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Are you talking about the level that you're at right now? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean to be honest, you're doing you're doing some
white people shit too. You on these late night shows
and you're on these wards shows. You know, Yeah, is
that what it is?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's just big all around, Like I never imagine this
is going on. Yeah, Like I knew I was gonna
make it, but I ain't know this big and the Fast.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
You got a record with a lot of called procedure.
Are men really trying to trap you and get you pregnant?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Really?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
How do you handle that.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
One?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's crazy?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
So you really in the record you said that you
might get your tub side.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah you don't really mean that.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, but like I do want to have kids, but
not my own kids, Like I want to do the surroguit. Yeah,
I want somebody else to have my baby. I want
them to have my DNA, but I don't want to have.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
It, Like that's mot why just because your career just.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You just I just don't want to actually have a baby.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah yeah, what did you see somebody have a bad experience?
That means you feel like I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Like all my friends got kids and they just like
they can't do it. They restricted a lot. I mean
they priggy and I'm like, no, I don't want to
go through that.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Or it's just for not much.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
This is too long.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
You said a month before you blew up, you were
still swiping cards, wasn't that you? Yeah, you don't want
to expound nothing. What What did a lot of mean
on the record when she said talking about taking spots. Kresha, Please,
they call me big Mama bender, bitch over my knees.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Y'all gonna call it beef. What was that line? I
guess you gotta. I couldn't understand if she was taking shots.
I was confused.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, I don't think she's taking taking shots. But we Yeah,
I can't explain what she said.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You don't ask people what they say it on your records.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It sounds good like I think, well, I know what
I interpreted is, but I ain't gonna like I don't
know exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
How did you interpret it? Is your album? Yeah, so
how did you interpret it?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Shot?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Okay? You knew what you know what the bar was about. Yeah,
but you want her to explain it? Okay.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Now we got to talk about rain now with Kirk Franklin,
Shandon Ler Moore and Kiera Shid. Just another example of
the anointing on law Yeah, Hall lujahs life. How did
that record come together and why those particular gospel artists?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, so for me and I was like, I want
to do a gospel song. Never mind, he parted the
record too, he had he did the chorus, he sent
to beat there, he sent the chorus, and so I
instantly wrote the verse soon as he sent the song though,
and then I'm like, cause he had a Kirk Franklin
sample on there first, and so I'm like, you know,
I would really I would really love Kirk Franklin actually

(10:17):
got on the song, and then he set up everything
else and everything just came together.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Did you have to talk to Kirk and all of
them and tell him what the record was about?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
At first?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Uh, none of my people had said this song? Yeah,
and then they he did it so quick and so fast.
I was so happy.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
What made you want to do a full on gospel record?
And feel like?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Because I always wanted to do one, and then my
mama always be asking me, we ain't gonna do a
gospel Oh real good, I'm like, I'm gonna do one
for show. I always wanted to do one, though, and
that was like the perfect one. Like that song I
actually almost Uh it's probably about a year and a
half old.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Wow, Yeah, was it was? It was it difficult to
write just emotion.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Like everything that I said on there. I actually felt
he was so he is the right, like like I
said when he sent it to me out he wrote
it Quicke as f.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
And the church was was a major part of your upbringing.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, and like you said, your your mother was super
Christian and she didn't want you to be of the world.
So when you was creating this record, did you say, Man,
I don't know if I if I want to mix this,
mix this record with the other stuff I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Nah, because I know like it's bald. When I just
knew I wanted a God's breaking on my album and
that really?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Did hear me come up with the name of the
album too?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, glorious?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
So the other two artists of Shan Lamore and Kiera Shid,
you knew you wanted them on as well.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I didn't like Kirk Franklin brought it together, but when
he got those two to be on there, I was
happy to come like, Okay, they some good artists.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What did your mama say?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
My mama she heard, she ain't hear the finished product
yet I'm gonna let her hear it on the album.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Did you tell him at least yep?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
She happy that wow.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Now, Also on Rain Down, you say you tell the
Lord to watch over everyone you love and care for.
But you said even though he hate me, Lord, watch
over my baby father. Then I ain't that right, I
ain't know you have no kids.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I ain't got no kid.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I want to tell.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I was speaking for the people that do get them
out like rapping almost like in their.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Person is you know that's gonna confuse people. Yeah, I know,
because I let somebody else head and they thought the
same things.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I't. They stopped like, I ain't know she got no man.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
A lot of people do that. But yeah, it's just
for the people who do get it, like it was
just a prayer that I wanted to be like for
other people to use.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, right now, you know somebody gonna pop up on
the inn they talking about now she lying I'm a
baby fother.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I ain't got no kid glows prayer.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, why are you holding up God's prayer line? Praying
to God to help you lead that dick along blow? Like,
come on, God got bigger issues to worry about.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
What's what's that?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Okay? So a long time ago when I forgot my
I was in my first real relationship. I really had
to pray God to hear me be like the dude
alone because I didn't know how to. When I was
in my cor froend. I'm like, God, like, wi, you
get me out of this, I'll never do it again.
And I know girls too then went through there too,
so I'm like, I'm gonna make a song.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Look at it? Did it work? Don't lie? Now? After
the first prayer? So you mean to tell me after
the first prayer you left them alone?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Not after the first prayer? You know you gotta eventually
come to pace. He ain't gonna instry. It happened like this.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
How many times you mess with them after you prayer?
The first time?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It hadn't been so long, but it eventually did work. Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Now you answered your own question on that record too,
because you said it's your tasting men that you need
to blame.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Do you understand that that you yeah? Okay, when did
you realize that? At what point did you? What was
your tasting minute?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That ain't she once? I don't know why I liked them,
but yeah, I was like it. Maybe it's because it's
some good men out there, but I probably just keep
pigging wrong.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I did you know what the person that is shit?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Because you can't you can't say it's because of their
background You can't say it's because of what they do,
because the lawyer could be ain't ship and the drug
look could be the good guy.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It ain't about their career, just like what the them
as a person. So yeah, I be running to the
ones that ain't good, like good people with good men.
They might be good people, but just not good.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Did you ever think it was anything internal with me? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
No, I ain't never the problem.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
That's what everybody who's the problem says.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know, real ain't the problem though.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Never You ain't never ever been a problem in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
No, because anytime I'd be like, so what what what
I need? What I need to do? They never ain't
got nothing. They never got nothing to say. It never
be me.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Because at that point they just ready to leave it
a little. It's second. You probably probably been doing too much.
Now we just don't never be me. I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now, everything everything you describe yourself as the Memphis choir
girl turned husky voice rapped pheno.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Did you ever sing the trust quae? Really? Yes?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I used to sing real good.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I heard you lost your voice or something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I guess because smoking and I had not sung it
so long. And then I just start smoking in high school.
And then I tried to sing on time. I went
to charge with my moment and I couldn't do it
all more.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
And just in that moment, you just chain after what
was wrong?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
M m my, my mama had been found out that
I hate started smoking, but I just couldn't sing no more.
She still be telling me I still get it, and
I know I ain't get it, like she just got
hoped one day I'm gonna start bank singing.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I got another question about everything is everything? Because I
love the record.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's you got you Gotta say anything everything thing.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I love the record. I yeah from that project emotionally.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Was that a tough record to record because the song
is very self reflective and you talk about what's.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Going on in that mirror a lot. Was it very hard?
Was it hard to record?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
That was actually easither like the songs that I'm really
speaking on like, it'd be easy to record because it'd
be what's going on in real life.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
So so those are the easier records to wreck. So
what about the like the party records and the turn
up records? Are the radio records? Those are the more
difficult ones.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Now they be easy too, like because I just really
just got to turn up everything really because you.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Really be in you.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, okay, that's that's good advice for people. I think
that's the hardest thing for a lot of people nowadays.
They don't want to be theirself. I think that's when
they get the writer's block. Is that how you felt
early when you were saying that you, yeah, had got stuck.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, because I was just trying to go big, Like
I got to ask them like, oh, well, Latina artists
can I work with? Like I was just instantly trying
to go to big and so yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Why Like what was you looking at?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
That means you say, man, I need to I need
I need to just jump out the like why not
just build it up?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Keep doing what you was doing and build it up?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Because I feel like when I first started, I went
from dirt instantly up. So I just felt like I
had to keep going higher and she and so I
just got lost in the mid So is.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It truly it took you thirty minutes to write for
Nikka Free and then you shot the video the same
day the.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Next day, now I want the next day?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
How did she go?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Damn? There was a little minute ago. I recorded the
song and then I think, like the next day I
shot the video.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
The shit just took off thirty minutes change your life, yep,
So why not just kick that mentality the way?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
It's like, you know what, I'm just gonna keep everything organic.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
That's what I done, got too. I done got back
to it now, Okay, I had lost it at first.
Then I had to come back to it.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Who got you back to it? Your people?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
It's like, you know the label, Like what did they
tell you? Like, yo, you're overthinking it? Like this, just
be yourself.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It was myself and like I said the fan, the criticism,
it made me go back to it made you go
back to the drawing board, like look got me here.
And I used to talk to God. He would tell
me to stop overthinking this shit too.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Made Meg's on the album with the song how I Look,
Yeah you gotta line I.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Love you say, just drove by the cemetery. It's plenty
room for holes.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
You were making this study, it seemed to become like
really close during your tour together. Do you feel like
that experience of love and acceptance was made Is the
norm with women in the rap game?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Are they usually more conflict.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I feel like if she genuine, then it's just gonna happen. Like,
you know, a lot of she'd be fake, you know,
just industry relationships. But being on tour Meg and she
didn't hang around her like even now, she'll call me
every other day or text me and I'll do the
same to her and it's just genuine. It ain't forced
or nothing like that. And so I just feel like,
if he's genuine, then it ain't gonna be no conflict.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I did that relationship first developed.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
My head went to her. Uh, she had a no okay,
So I went to a Halloween party. That was the
first time I met her, and then I went to
her like Nike and release party. It was around her birthday,
and then that same week we went to the studio.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It's that same way. Yeah, how many songs y'all record?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
We had recorded too? We recorded or want to be
in her song Accent. We recorded Accent first and then
we did want to Be second, and then we just
put them jump out.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
How was the experience of the tour? What did you
What did you learn on that tour?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It was like I was already in up in the
midst of building my company because I was going I
was in gym ay day, I still be in gym
may day and she and then like my performance just
got better than shit. Yeah, it was just like, did
I guess.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Just make somebody that you like can go to for
advice and you know, just help guide you through this game?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah? Like cern she that I asked her about it,
She will let me know. She'll tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
What about a card because I know Cardi is your
blood cousin. Do y'all kick it? Does she give you
advice on how to navigate through this industry?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah? I be calling Carded sometime. We be talking about
stuff and she would give me like little too.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I love card When when you see her like going
off about her relationship, do you call her and try
to talk her off the ledge?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Nah? Because you know you gotta let it out sometime.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, you don't think people be giving social media
too much.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I mean to each his own, like, you know, if
she feels like this whole way of letting it out,
did that's what she gotta do?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
The reason I asked that though, because you clearly have
no problem calling your friends and telling them the man
they would don't deserve them. Yeah, you got to sew
much money. Long phenomenal record by the way, called her
Don't Deserve.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, what inspired that record?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Because I go through a lot. I haven't been through
a lot of shit with relationships, and then I had
friends like that I learned she from and their relationships
and they be going through stuff and I'd be like,
you all got to go through there, like he ain't
even he shouldn't even be the one taking you through there.
And so I just they gave me an idea to
make a song about it.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
The tone feels, uh, it feels similar to like Eve
Love is Blind.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, was that like an inspirationion for that record?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, because once I was making the record, I was like,
mm ain't nobody made another record like that like Eve
did with this song. So yeah, they gave me.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I love this song man who put you onto all
that old music?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Because then you got a bar and the glorious album
You see t I serious and that's like a reference
said and you say something like but he said, he
said he want to see the pussy cream, So cash rules,
that's wu Tang. Then just got the love his blind
tone like who puts you on all of that? You
know that classic music.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
My parents, oh by my daddy seventy three. My mama
seeks the one.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, she's super Christian, but she know the mirrors hip
hop and the hut yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Okay not not not like the hip hop that was
on TV like you want on six and Park type
of hip hop. Yeah, and my mama lively ts. My
mama ts. But yeah, you know, I got an old family.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Like until your older siblings and everybody was like they.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Falled in in their thirties and stuff. So I know
a lot about old schools.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So when you was a jit, there was you heard
all of that. Growing up, got you got you? Has
your mom met you yet? Have you been that happening?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I faced I saw ta in the airport in Atlanta
one day, and I face my.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
MoMA and let her see and what she said.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
So you know how how your mama be when they
in the bed and they ain't got their stuff together,
they be like right, She was like this.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Also on the record, though, Deserve, you said, we all
been stupid for these niggas. Once upon a time, those
red flags be looking green, but we get color blind.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
How do you know when a flag is actually red
and not green?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
This cooler bland faught like because you don't know like
they be. They be putting on like a little masquerade
looking like they something when it's when they when it's
not it. And so you got to, you know what
I'm saying, dive deep into and it. Then you'll realize
whole person really is.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You think you got it all figured out.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Now I ain't got it all figured out.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, so you still get colored black every time now, like.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm really still now like I don't like I don't
follow to deep in nothing no more. Yeah, yeah, like
I don't put my isle into nothing.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Can red flags turn green?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Can red flags turn green? No? As far as you
puck up on, you let a red flag or red
fleg slat, and then you're just gonna get worse. It's
gonna turn to a lot on.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Can a green flag turn ray? You think it's a
gold and it's nope?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Stop maybe oh no, don't deserve you tell your friend
you say, don't let them cheat on you, don't let
them beat on you, and then on, uh, I ain't
going you speak to that. You also seem like you
speak to theme with the domestic violence as well, because
you say I ain't going for all that rough me
up and grabbed me by my neck. Nigga put his
hands on me. Nigga put his hands on me. We're

(23:06):
gonna be smoking on him next.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I love the fact you're raising domestic violence awaitness, But
it seems like you had a lot of experience with it.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Are you know people who.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Have yeah, both of them. Yeah, Like I ain't never
like I didn't been in like a free situation, but
I ain't. Dang, it was just been too bad, Like,
oh my god, it's a continuous thing because like I
don't play it, but it seem like a few of
my friends go through it and it be a continuous thing,
and shit, they're just a song for it, so they
can know, like not to go for it.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
You did.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You did a lot of justice to wipe me down too.
It's hard to remake those Negro spirituals, but you put
your own thing on it. What gave you the confidence
to touch down.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
On the beat when the beat came and stuff? It
was just like you just gotta be you gotta be good.
You can't mess with no classic.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Did you reach out to Busy to get his to
get his blessing or you just did it and let
him hear it.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Boosie was in the video. He heard the song.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'm talking talking before I know he was a video,
but before you just recorded it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh no, he heard it when I hear put the
snippet on. Uh well, I was on lab and I
hear preview.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Did you make sure he get paid? He be talking
about everybody sampling. Can you talk about everybody sampling his
music and not paying him? Did you make sure he
got Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
He good? Okay, what made you want to put sexy
on it? Just to do the clap?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Y'all always you know the world been on the meet
in the six Rid collab and she's so we had
to make that happen. And then I was like, okay,
this is a fun song. This is not like something
she would get on because we ate. I ain't gonna
say that, but yeah, what're you about say?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Y'all ack like nah nothing, But you know my niece
is a DJ nowllars some more.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
And she said that when you're in the club now
you gotta play your sexy red set. You gotta play
a glow real estet. So I guess you're right you said,
because y'all did a record together. So now she got
she said, she's good that y'all did a record together
because she can put it in there in that rotation
with y'all.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
M yep. So what I would finishing was it was
in the studio working on something and we actually did
another song, and so I'm like, oh, you know what,
I hear you on this long like because she had
to go to a show. I'm like, okay, I'm just
gonna send it. See you when you just get on this.
And then she did her verse.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Somebody told me, y'all doing the album together.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's true? Oh who told you that?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
All the what the hell? I heard that?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
It may it cometry one day, but you know one
days like a mixtape, it maybe can be a mixtape,
but we we don't any started day and how many
I don't know who.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's an album coming sex and you read Lauryla album
coming soon now crop top with some bike and shorts
showing off my moose knuckle uh my.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Man and nave Green.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
He took a picture with him at Drew Ski's festival,
and he said in his capture on Instagram, big Glow
wasn't lying knuckle for damn show. Hashtag moose knuckle Monday.
I feel like your moose knuggle is gonna have its
own Instagram page. So and I never heard a woman
own their moose knuggle the way that you have. When

(26:01):
did that start?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, So I ain't on that, Like when I be
posting certain pictures, like I really got it from the
fans to like they'd be like, damn, you got a
moo snuckle on you, And so I'm like I just
took like they say it all the time. And so
while I was rapping because the line I said, do nothing,
I'm like, what around with it? Do nothing?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
That?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like move snug? I'm like, fucking I'm say it like
because they always be saying it about me. And so
that's how that ball came about.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It own everything about you? Why not? Why not?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
There's a hopefulness I think I believe in an optimism,
you know, and a faith in God and so many
of your lyrics if people are really paying attention, if
someone counted how many times you reference God on Glorious,
it would be.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
A whole lot.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
So I know you know who your family, right, but
who else instilled that in you? Especially coming from you know,
a city like Memphis, because city Memphis was just recently
ring like the number one most dangerous city in America.
So who gives you that sense of optimism to say,
you know what, I can make it out of a
treacherous city like this.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
It was a lot of churches and mean because you
know them. It's like Memphis like and then you know
down south it's a lot of churches. So like I,
it was just how I grew up. My background just
church like even though we was in Memphis, it was
just still a church.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Did you know you wanted to make it out the
city or was your mindset like I want to get successful,
come back and maybe change change was going on.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I want to do that too, Like I for Show,
the goal is always to make it out, but I
for show on the one day, see if I can
make it better. It's a lot of work, but hopeful
the one day.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Have you always been just optimistic about life?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
M h, of course you got to be.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
How do you stay how you stay from being pessimistic?
He was a big.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Optimism is the opposite of pessimism. Pessimism mean, how do
you keep from just being negative and thinking everything's gonna
be bad? And you know the sky is falling.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Honestly, I always preper for the worst. I pray for
the bits, but always I'm always a praying for the worst.
But you know, you just can't walk around negative and
shit or negative. Sheit gonna happen, but you gotta preper
for But you just can't just be negative.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Even at this stage of your life right now, you
like you feel like something bad to be happening.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
You know, some shit always don't come out come out
the blue like nothing. It's gonna be rainy days all
the time. But you know, you just gotta pray. That's
how I deal with it. I just pray, stay prayed.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Up every day. That's not won't shine. But that's right.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Uh, there's there's always a conversation about like artists who
get to a certain level of success, they got to
leave their hometown because that's what they hate can be
the strongest.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
What are your views on that?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, you don't get to I mean, but I
used to always think before I blew up, I used
to say, I need to see more of the world
other than Memphis, so like I can have more to
rap about. So that's what they mean by that. I understand,
because like, if we're only in Memphis, we're gonna only
wrap about the sheep to go on there. So you
have to go out in the world and experience most
shep to have more sheep to talk about.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Have you have you moved that Memphis right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I live in them.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Is it just better for your music career? Because Memphis
popper Right now?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I think Memphis and Detroit might be the yeah best
hip hop cities, and it's been like that for a
little minute.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, but like I still go to me for sometime,
and I still keep my Memphis people around me, Like
even if I'm not in Memphis, my people did sprom
Memphis and still being means like they come around and
still keep me on game about anything.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
What if you woke up on then and you lost
your accent and he wasn't seeing music.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
They're gonna be crazy. I just gonna be crazy and
spoke because everybody say I got such a strong accents,
so I don't see me ever losing it. I'll be
trying to talk proper, but I still don't know how
to What is talking proper? Like how I'm trying to
do right now?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Why are trying to talk so the fuck what you?
I'm like, what's going on? Back on stuff?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like what's happened the thing on my back?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Or they put that little tape to make it tape?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
What's something own her? Yeah, it's something back there?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay? Do you think.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Do you think it was harder coming up as a
female and Memphis then it might have been in another scene?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
You know, now that I look back on it, like
it was, it wasn't really hard, like if you try
and it ain't that hard, like well getting it together,
like because I used have to work to fund my
music career. But it really wasn't hard because I really
put my mind to it. Now that I think about it,
maybe at the time it was, but now that I
look back, I'm like, oh, I really was grinding to
get to where I was. And if you really want something,

(30:44):
it ain't gonna be that hard because it's gonna become
something you really won't. You know what I'm saying, It's
gonna be You know, what.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Was the grind? Did you?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like, you know, make the music, go to the clubs,
make sure the DJ has had it, do this, do
the runs at the radio station like you did all
of that?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, Like I was just talking about this. I would
be in the club and shit, be I get two
turned off of some little liquor and some little you
know what I'm saying, little weed, I go pay the
DJ a little fifty one hundred dollars, I want fat
to play my song in the club and shit. And
then like I used to like open up for other artists,
pay to perform just so everybody else can see me.
I used to a lot of showcases and then you know,

(31:22):
just having to go to work and you have my
chick to pay for a marriage video or studio time.
So now I think about it, it was hard because
you know, you know what I'm saying, mother fulkers on't
having the money like that. But I really wanted it,
so we want it hard. And now that I'm around it,
you don't seem like it was hard.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
So what was the big break? Like, like, what was
the moment where Gody or whoever was discovering.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
You, you know, after I had fing else and it
had went viral and shit, and then all the labels
was calling, and shit, I was just going to label me,
to label me, to label me, and then got it
had been here.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Hit me up.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't know, I was just like I was like nervous,
I was scared. And then but when I actually had
linked over with him, and shit, it was like he
was the one that was talking the most sensible and
then actually it was genuine, like everybody else just weren't
really talking genuine. They didn't think I would make it
past Epanel and I was playing Tomorrow for them, like
they didn't know tomorrow would be that big. Like they
were just like okay, and they'll come with deals that

(32:19):
was so low and shit and like they really believe
and she but when out here pulled up on god it,
he didn't even wanted to hear He was like, we
ain't even talking about FNL no more, like I wanted
to hear the other music. And so I was on
the yacht, I hooked up to the OX and I
just played all my music and then yeah, was.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
You were you intimidating?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Like, because because it's got like yeah, yeah, And but
he would be the person I think that you would
relate to the most, cause he from.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I know, Yeah, that's what made it better because he
related to me more, and like it was like a
connection that didn't nobody else have when I was talking
to him. So when I talked to him, I felt
a better connection. But I was just like cook, everybody always,
everybody from me just want to sign that guy. So
I was just I was just nervous. I don't know
why I was nerves out nervous.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
What other labels did you meet with? Because I mean,
now that I know you hate big words, he probably
was in the.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Me I don't hate you gotta say the like I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Because I'm when you in these meetings. They probably wasn't
speaking your language. God, he was probably speaking your language.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
He's just like they weren't talking what I wanted to hear,
like you know what I'm saying. Like, like I said,
they just won't believe him. To me, I ain't feel
like like I feel like if I would have said
to anybody else, they would probably tried to chill me,
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, the numbering he was looking for just that too.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
But it's like even lending them hear the music like
they want, like you know, I pay attention to people
when my music are playing, like I look at it
by the energy and shit, and.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
They just won't moved back.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I could tell that one moved back, and so I'm like, okay,
I know how y'all gonna treat me if I'm saying like,
y'all really only card about these one songs because it
was going up at the sign.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
So once you heard, once you realize, God he was
spoking with your other music. He was like, okay, that's
what I need to be.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, he was just talking the most sensible, sensible.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Shit and so so God he signed you. He took
you under his wing.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
There was there like any o g female rappers in
Memphis who reached out and served like as a mentor
to you.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Gangster had already reached out before she had already with
I was already talking to her before I blew up,
like she would see me and my old friends rapping.
She was always DM me like y'all so hard, like
she always showing me up?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Did you but you never really? Did you ever really
like to sit down and kick it with it?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
And oh I never got a chance to meet her,
but I always talked to her like we was always DMN,
but I never got the chance to meet her. I
made the chick.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Wow. The chat was hard too. Both of them did
she give you in the game with chat.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Oh yeah, she always d M me and say you
got it. You're doing these ship like you know how
the chit gangs like she always come on some gangster
DM me.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Who were your musical influences coming out of Memphis?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Because I read somewhere that you wanted to be a
singer but decided to rap because you lost your voice
by the.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Time I started rapping like this, when she Keethnel was
out and I was listening to him a lot, and
so like I was like a fan of him and
she and I just like how he's how he used
to come on the track, Like sometimes he'll say some
stupid shit, but it was still hard to me, Like
his beat solution was hard. He was just just be
young turning white. And around the time, that's how I
was feeling, And so I'm like, let me start rapping too.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
It's interesting when you said that you you didn't feel
like you see yourself in this position because you got
so many examples coming from Memphis.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
You got the gotdis you got the three six month figures,
you got money bag. You know, like like why why
didn't you think you could do it?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Why didn't that do it.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, said, why didn't you think you could do it?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I didn't think I could do it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
But now you said you didn't think you would get
to this level. Oh, Christian Wafie won.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
An oscar, Like that's right, right, But I don't know,
like I knew it could happen, But I ain't think
like it just happened like unexpectedly, like I knew one
day it would happen, and I knew one day I'll
be living Like you know how some rappers they don't
just instantly go up like there, like they gotta go
through all the stells like I ain't have. I thought
I was maybe would head to this. I ain't no,

(35:58):
I was just don't get big. So I'm blessed. Though.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Do you think calling yourself the Queen of Memphis because
you got a record called Queen of Memphis, think that's
gonna ruffle any feathers?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Mm hmmm, because just you don't only gotta be one queen.
We are queens the chick gangst the people. We are
queens glass and as queens men.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
People always talk about the lifestyle and temptation of men
who lived this artist life in this industry, right, what's
that life from the perspective of a woman, because you
could be.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Out here smutting these guys out having your own freak
ass if you wanted that.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think it's pretty different from a male and a female.
It's from females to get active now too, But you
know it's it's pretty much the same life. But we
just don't, like we don't go to him like at
the dudes like y'all just gotta have some shit going.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Like, ain't on y'all now, I gotta ring on.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
The RAFs, like they just gotta have so much shit
going on at once and we ain't got through all it.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
So you mean to tell me when y'all women be
sitting around with all the money and the influence and
the power y'all got, y'all don't never think about doing
these dudes the way these dudes.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Be doing women, Like what type of way? Just smoking
them up?

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I mean, yeah, but I'm saying, like they addicted to it,
like it gotta happen all the time. We ain't gotta
do this.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
That's the that's a power trip though, gotta be power trip,
that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, Like it's just like I don't know they it's
some type of fetish or I don't know, y'all know,
I mean they know.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I'm glad you said. They what's your relationship with Damian
a Little?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Like somebody? They just asked them about you the other
day at the press conference. Look at you dropping ship,
getting all nervous thinking about that once you're getting all
nervous thinking about that man.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
They just they just help you. You gotta uh.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't know what it is. Something I had to
put on ye steak yeah, hug right there.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Pause, Well.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You can stick it through anyone right now.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yep, yep, there you go. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Damien Little, they said they asked him about you, and
he said, you know, I keep my personal life personal
and let it be that.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I respect her as an artist. We know each other.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
She's an artist. I'm an artist. But as far as
anything else, it ain't nothing going on. That's what I
can tell you.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, that's that.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Did you ever did y'all ever speak kick it talk nothing?
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
It's a lot of niggas in the world and they
keep seeing it about xbout one. It's gonna hook me up.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
You better start talking about some mother shut shout out
a couple other ones. Now, does anybody in your family
have an issue with your music?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Because you know you mentioned it a little bit earlier,
meaning folks like they said you can't give glory to
God and still a rap about ratship. People think it
can't be a balance. So because any of your family
members ever say you can't do the secular music?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Got them?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
They just all supportive. But I ain't got to do.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
All of them? Yeah, do you pay everybody bills?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
The ones that I feel like I should pay you
my mom and my daddy.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
You got nine siblings, Do any of them want to
be in the business? Are they in the business?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Are they everybody got their own wife? Like? Nobody look
at me like, oh you're a rap. I gotta do
something like this, like everybody of their own person.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
That's okay.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Being the eighth child born out of ten kids, do
you ever like battle with helping your family out versus being.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
You know, tight with your money own type? Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
And I'm supersight cause I just think like and not
even with family with any batter like, cause if you
do all run out for me, who's gonna hear me out?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
So I'm tight anyway, like I hear people where that
needs to be health there, but overdoing it, I don't.
I don't play there.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Have you learned that? No? It was a complete sentence,
m for sure. Do they respect? You know?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Got to what else they go do?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's right?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Are you old enough to know about female rappers like
the Little Kim's and the Foxy Browns?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Did you hear that growing up? You know?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I knew Little Kim always because of just hub being
Little Kim and being a FASTI act what you was,
But I ain't hear a lot of the music. I
read some of her music growing up, but you know,
down south like and then my mama didn't listen to
a lot of rap anyway, and so I really had
grew up and learned about them myself.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
What about like? So he was more like treeing, Uh, yeah,
I know about okay?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, because I was gonna ask, like, you know that
those women faced a lot of backlash for their lyrics
and the things they rapped about.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
What are your thoughts about that?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And do you feel like your generation has those same
experiences because they seem like they be on your head
and sexy red head about y'all saying what do you
What do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I'm guiltful because the people who like it gonna listen
to it, like if you I don't like it, apparently
you know, not one of my fans don't listen to it.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's just that you've been successful for a while now,
but you was down probably much longer than you was up. Yeah,
that's safe to say, right, But what's been more memorable
to you? To struggle or the joy both of them.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I was just walking last night, I was walking down
town Square. I'm just like I had a lot of
fun times, memorial times when I was broke, Like you know,
it's like you got a lot of fun times when
you broke, Like I was just thinking about shit. I'm like, damn,
when I used to be working here or doing this,
Like we was having a lot of fun. But I
can say that about being rich too, Like I just
enjoyed my whole life now that I look back on it,

(41:37):
like grateful more now I'm looking back on it than
I was at the time, maybe because it could have
been worse than what it was.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Absolutely, you know, and the song that I referenced before,
you said you learn to forgive people even if they
don't apologize because having peace.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Of mind is more important to you.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, coming from a generation where people are more concerned
with optics, how do you shut out the noise of
what everybody else is doing around you to keep your peace?

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Because that's what you gotta focus on your piece and
nobody else life. I can't let nobody else puck on
my jewel, Like I can't just be mad at you
all the time. And what's this gonna help? Just being
mad at you? Like, no, it's gonna puck up my peace.
So I gotta do whatever make me happy and keep
me peace.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
What you do to keep your peace?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Worry about myself, be in the gym, like stay healthy,
you know what I'm saying, feeding too myself, poring to myself.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Does your mom soll make you go to church? And
she was like glow after you act. Make sure you
go to church and get.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Online, watch something, mama, make sure I pray. She always
send me like a little videos with certain pasts and
messages and stuff. But Y always pray. She always texts
me from motivational.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
What's the last thing she texts you? What she text
you this morning? Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I probably you know text this morning but I can't
remember the last thing she texted me, but she always
say I love you and stuff and make sure you
pray all it.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
You know, the most important affirmation she ever told you
the one that sticks with you.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Man, it's something I can tell me. I can't just
think of one.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
When you look at a project, Pat he's preaching now, yeah,
do you see yourself making that move in the future.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I think it can happen. On it for sure. I
think it can happen. People already be saying like I'm
ministered to them in my mumusic one day can.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
My final question, what does success look like? A gorilla?
What is it? What is your end goal?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
My end goal is to make my mark where I
knew where I made it, and I be able to
take care of all my people. I love the way
I want to and.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
She yeah, yeah. Are you happy? Are you having fun? Yes?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I am just in just in life overall. Yes, Sam,
What do you want this album to do? What would
success look like for this glorious album, which I think
is a phenomenal body of work, by the way, like
really really really really good.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I don't want to jump out the window because I
just got it a couple of days ago, and I've
been listening to a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, but it's really really real.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I want to put too much pressure on you, and
I don't want to put too much sauce on it
for people watching because I want to name for themself.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
But it's really, really, really good. So what would success
look like for you in this project?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I wanted to go number one. I wanted to like
be a like an everlasting album, like an album that's
for elbing rotation, like one of them classics that people
always remember, like when You Bring Up was one of
the best albums they say Devil.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
All right, Golriilla, thank you, appreciate you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
That was a great interview.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Interview.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
You gotta put it with a burden.