We The People: Townhall with Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha God

Charlamagne Tha God sat down with Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday (October 15) for a live interview, billed as "We The People: An Audio Town Hall with Kamala Harris." Charlamagne hosted the Democratic candidate for president in Detroit, Michigan, for an hour-long interview that was broadcast on iHeartRadio stations across the country.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We the people In the audio town hall with Vice
President Kamala Harris in conversation with Charlemagne the God, live
from Detroit, Michigan and exclusively on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We'll tackle the.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Tough questions, the pressing issues, and the future of our nation.
Now here's your housset. Charlemagne the God.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yes, peace of the planet. Charlamagne the God here with
Madame Vice President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
How are you very well, Charlemagne?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Listen? We got twenty days and sixty minutes, so we
just need to get to it.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm with you all. It was twenty one day.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
How are you because you did just walk in. You
was kind of later.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Well, I try to be on time. Well apparently I'm
forty seconds late.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You're right, Well, you are black. Now. You know one
thing they've been saying, a lot of your press hits
get criticized. You know, folks that you come off as
a very scripted. They say you like to stick to
your talking points, and some media says you have.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
That would be called disciplined.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Ooh, okay, okay. Some people say you have an inability
to fearlessly say who you are and what you believe.
I know that's not true. But what do you say
to that criticism? And is it fair for s and
now to make fun of it?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hasn't Maya Rudolph been wonderful? Yes, I think I have
nothing but admiration for the comedy, and I think it's
important to be able to laugh at yourself and each
other in the spirit of obviously comedy, and not belittling people,
as my opponent would do.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
But what do you say to people who say you
stay on the talking points?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I would say you're welcome. I mean, listen, here's the thing.
I love having conversations, which is why I'm so happy
to be with you this afternoon. And the reality is
that there are certain things that must be repeated to
ensure that I have everyone know what I stand for
and the issues that I think are at stake in
this election, and so it requires repetition. You know, some

(01:50):
people say that until someone has heard the same thing
at least three times, it just doesn't stay with you.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So repetition is important.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
And for that reason, Yes, at my rallies, I say
the same thing when I go to Detroit, as I
do in Philly, as I do wherever I am to
make sure that people here and receive what I think
are some of the most critical issues that are at
taking the selection.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
There has to be a high level of anxiety too
when you have these conversations, though, because you are running
for president.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I mean, you know what, there is certainly a lot
of I feel the weight of the moment and my role.
I feel an extraordinary weight of responsibility right now to
do everything I can. I'm telling you, Charlemagne, when I
go to bed at night, I I almost every night,

(02:40):
in addition to my prayers, will ask have I done
everything I could do?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Today?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
This is a margin of era race. It's tight.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I'm going to win. I'm going to win, but it's tight,
and you know, what is at stake is truly profound
in historics, many would say, and it's about you know,
some people would say this lofty notion of supporting and
preserving our democracy, but it is about real issues that

(03:14):
affect people every day, like whether we're going to maintain
a thirty five dollars cap on insulin for our seniors,
whether we're going to continue to allow Medicare to negotiate
drug prices to bring them down, whether we are going
to have, as my opponent, would have a formalized stop
and frisk policy, for which he has said if a
police department does not do it, they should be defunded

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or not. There is so much at stake, whether America
is going to stand on its principles around the importance
of sovereignty and territorial integrity and stand with our allies
around the world, or whether we're going to admire dictators
and send during the height of COVID in the pandemic,
COVID tests that nobody could get to the President of
Russia for his personal use, when black people were dying

(03:59):
every day by the hundreds during that time.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, I feel like that one has gone over people's head.
The fact that he was sending COVID test to putin.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I mean, you know, I invite I don't your listeners,
the people we know the number of people who lost
their grandparents and parents, remember what that was like during
the height of COVID and a lot of it. People
were scrambling for the resources and needed tests. And Donald
Trump during that time secretly sent COVID tests to the

(04:30):
President of Russia, who, by the way, do not forget.
In the twenty sixteen election, because I was a member
of the Senate Intelligence Committee when we investigated.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
It targeted black voters.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
In twenty sixteen with missing disinformation to discourage black people
from voting in that election. And this is just another
of the very many examples of who Donald Trump really
is and the danger he presents.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, real people.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Sending COVID test to Russia. That doesn't sound very America
first at all. But it's not just you versus Trump,
is U versus misinformation. Yes, that's true, right, And one
of the biggest pieces of misinformation. One of the biggest
allegations against you is that you targeted and locked up
thousands of black men in San Francisco for weed. Some
say you did it to bus your careers, some say
you did it out of pure hate for black men.

(05:21):
Please tell us the facts. What's the facts of that situation.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's just simply not true. And what public defenders who
are around those days will tell you. I was the
most progressive prosecutor in California on marijuana cases and would
not send people to jail for simple possession of weed,
and as Vice President, have been a champion for bringing
marijuana down on the schedule, so instead of it being

(05:46):
ranked up there with heroin. We bring it down, and
my pledge is as president, I will work on decriminalizing
it because I know exactly how those laws have been
used to disproportionately impact certain populations and specifically black men.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Before we get into the talk back feature and take
some questions from the audience, I do want to talk
to you about the legalization the weed, because you're saying
you want to legalize it. Now, what steps did the
Biden administration take to get closer to that reality?

Speaker 4 (06:14):
So we had to work with the DA and it's
there's a certain level of bureaucracy that exists in the
federal government that slows things down. But essentially to bring
down how weed's classified, how marijuana is classified, to make
it classified as a lesser harm and so that took

(06:37):
some time. There's a whole process around that. But that's
the work that we have done, in addition to work
that we have done writ large on criminal justice reform.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Okay, let's take some calls. Let's take some when I call,
let's go to the talkback feature.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
My question for Kamala is why are we And I
say we because my tax dollars is sending the money.
Why are we sending money to other countries when we
desperately need in our own country for homeless housing resources
for whatever. That is my determining factor if I vote

(07:14):
were COMMA or not.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's one of the reasons the America for US rhetoric
resonates because nobody in America would complain about where money
was going if American citizens every day needs were being met.
So what do you say to.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
That we can do it all? And we do so.
First of all, I maintained very strongly America should never
pull ourselves away from our responsibility as a world leader,
and that is in the best interest of our national
security in each one of us as Americans, and our

(07:45):
standing in the world. That being said, we also have
an obligation to American citizens obviously and people who are
here to meet their everyday needs and challenges, which is why,
for example, we have done the work in the last
four years of bringing down the cost of prescription medication,
whether it be thirty five dollars a month for seniors

(08:07):
for insulin or two thousand dollars a year cap on
prescription medication. What we have done that has been about
putting seventeen billion dollars in our HBCUs. I am proud
to be the first HBCU Vice President of the United States.
I intend to be the first HBCU President of the
United States. Those resources are about sending them to centers
of academic excellence that I know them to be. The

(08:29):
work that I continue to do is about increasing access
to capital for our small businesses. It is about increasing
the opportunity for home ownership. Knowing that Black people are
forty percent less likely to be homeowners in America.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
We have a.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
History of legal and procedural obstacles to that home ownership,
starting with the fact nobody got forty acres in a mule,
to redlining, to issues that this Detroit area and people
around the country know to be real. So part of
my plan is that we're going to give people a
twenty five thousand dollars down payment assistance to get their

(09:05):
foot in the door to buy a home for first
time home buyers. The work that I'm going to do
to increase housing supply in America, knowing that that's one
of the reasons that rents and housing prices are jacked up,
and to work with the private sector cut through the
red tape and work to build more housing three million
before the end of my first term. And I give
these examples, and there are many more which I will offer. So,

(09:27):
for example, the work that I will do to extend
the child tax credit to six thousand dollars for young
families during the first year of their child's life, because,
as you and I both know, our families all have
a natural desire to parent their children well, but not
always the resources. So by expanding the child tax credit
to the first year of child's life to six thousand dollars,

(09:48):
that gives that young family the ability to buy a
car seat, or a crib or clothes, the things that
are so important during that critical phase of that child's development,
so that they can get on the road and ad
actually have a chance at succeeding.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
You know, you said we can do it all, but
can we because you know Tupac famously said, you know,
we got money for war, but can't feed the poor, right,
And I saw President Obama say last week that you know,
you really shouldn't expect, you know, a president to rid
the world of all of its problems. So is it
fair to tell people, hey, we can do it all,
Because that's when people get disappointed when things don't happen.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
But I think President Obama is absolutely correct. But it
doesn't mean we can't do anything that's right. So when
I talk about extending the child tax credit, as when
I was Vice president, I pushed that we would do
it during our first year, and we reduced child Black
child poverty in America by fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
We did that. We can do that.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
My plan that is about building up home ownership in
the black community, we can do that. My work that
has been about increasing access to capital, bringing billions more
dollars into our community banks, which I've done as Vice
president through cooperation and partnership with some of the big
banks and tech companies to get more access to capital
for our entrepreneurs.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
For our businesses. We've done that. So we should never sit.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Back and say, Okay, I'm not going to vote because
everything hasn't been solved. I share a desire that everything
should be solved by the way I think it is
what we should all want, but that that shouldn't stand
in the way of us also known we can participate
in a process that's about improving things. And by voting

(11:29):
in this election, you have two choices or you don't vote,
but you have two choices if you do. And it's
two very different visions for our nation. One mind that
is about taking us forward and progress and investing the
American people, investing in their ambitions, dealing with their challenges.
And the other Donald Trump, is about taking us backward.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
The other is about fascism.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Why can't we just say it, yes, we can't say that.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Reverend Solomon can Locke Jr. I want you to meet him.
He is the senior pastor of Triumph Church.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Luck.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh, he's here on tell secret service, move out the way.
It's okay, it's just the reverend. All right, what's up?

Speaker 7 (12:11):
Reverend Madam Vice President Charlemagne, Thank y'all for being in
Detroit tonight.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Recently, a Madam Vice President by one of Trump's surrogates
from the black faith based community, you've been criticized by
him and others for your lack of engagement to the
Black church. Knowing that the black church is an unrivaled
place in the heart of black people.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
What could you speak to.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
As it relates to a future a Harris administration, how
you would partner with the Black church to address some
of the urgent needs of the black community. Doctor King
talked about a fierce urgency of right now and as
a church, Triumph Church is in that place.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
So first of all, that allegation, of course, is coming
from the Trump team because they are full of missing disinformation,
because they are trying to disconnect me from the people
I have worked with and that I am from, so
that they can try and have some advantage in this election,
because otherwise they have nothing to run on.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I grew up in the black church I grew up.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I grew up attending twenty third Avenue Church of God
in Oakland, California.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes church, Yes, that is church.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
My pastor is Amos C. Brown, a third Baptist church
in San Francisco, California. Yes, I have throughout my career
and as vice president and recently been actively engaged in
the church and church leaders, not only so we can
share in fellowship, but so we can share in what

(13:48):
we can do together. That is about supporting the community,
the strength of the community, the cohesion of the community,
and it is my long standing work and therefore my
pledge going forward, I will always closely with the church
because I understand who our church leaders are and who
the congregation is we are talking about people who are
driven by faith and the ability to see what is

(14:11):
possible by faith. Where I was raised and I know
many of us were understanding that our God is a
loving God, that our faith propels us to act in
a way that is about kindness and justice and mercy,
that is about lifting one another up. And let's talk
about the contrast here. Donald Trump and his followers spend

(14:35):
full time trying to suggest that the measure of the
strength of a leader is based on who you beat down,
which is absolutely contrary to the church.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I know.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
He sells bibles, though, where our.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Church and my church is about saying true leadership, the
measure of that is based on who you lift up
and right, and then he's selling sixty dollars bibles or
tennis shoes as and and trying to play people as
though that makes him more understanding of the black community.

Speaker 8 (15:06):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Good every day, all the time.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
There you go to make sure you get that right. Now.
Have you seen the clip, Madam Vice President from the Grills.
It's a clip that's kind of out of context and
it says that you won't do anything specifically for black people.
Have you seen that I've not seen that. It's a
clip that has you saying that you're not going to
do anything specifically for black people.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, that's just not true.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
And listen again, you said it at the beginning of
this visit Charlemagne. One of the biggest challenges that I
face is missing disinformation, and it's purposeful because it is
meant to convince people that they somehow should not believe

(15:55):
that the work that I have done has has occurred
and has meaning. My work from the beginning of my
career through today has been about, for example, we've talked
about it, whether it be on HBCUs, whether it be
on healthcare, black maternal mortality. I am, singularly, many would say,
one of the highest level leaders in our country to

(16:17):
bring the issue black maternal mortality to the stage of
the White House to address it. The work that I've
done that has been about focusing on my knowledge and
my experience in my life, experience of knowing the entrepreneurship
that we have in the community, the ambition, the aspirations,
the dreams, and then tapping into that so that not

(16:38):
only has my work been about ensuring that we have
some of the lowest black unemployment.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Ever in our country.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
But that also knowing that that should be a baseline,
that everybody has a job, and what we should be
invested in is also building wealth in the community and
intergenerational wealth. And I have many, many examples of that.
But again, part of the challenge that I face is
that they are trying to scare people away because they

(17:10):
know they otherwise have nothing to run on. Ask Donald
Trump what his plan is for Black America. Ask him
what you know, I'll tell you what it is. Look
at Project twenty twenty five. Project twenty twenty five tells
you the plan includes making police departments have stopping frisk policies.
The plan includes making it more difficult for workers to

(17:33):
receive overtime pay. The plan includes ending the ability of
Medicare to negotiate drug prices. You know what we have done,
he said he would. We did, which means that that's
how we brought down the cost of prescription medication. His
plan includes making it more difficult for working people to
get by and to destroy our democracy. You know what

(17:56):
he says he'll do, terminate the Constitution in the United States.
Let me remind folks, you know what's in the Constitution
of United States, the Fourth Amendment, which protects you against
unreasonable searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment, the sixth Amendment,
the fourteenth Amendment, and he's going to terminate the Constitution
of the United States, which, in most of those amendments,

(18:17):
one thing or another was about a movement spurred by
black people to ensure that we would be equally protected
under the law.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Come on, let's take a question from talking about HI.

Speaker 9 (18:27):
My name is Joshua Fisher, aged thirty one years old,
African American male from Las Vegas, Nevada. I'd like to
ask Madam Vice President what laws does she have planned
to make sure that there's a stop to police brutality
and murders that have been going on viciously.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
So again, the work that I have done through my
career and the most recently, even when I was in
the United States Senate to help write the George Floyd
Justice and Policing Act, Cory Booker and I work very
closely on that.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Could you tell people why that didn't pass? To get
folks a quick civic.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Plus, we couldn't get the votes in Congress. There's a
clip somewhere of me fighting with a Republican Center Senator
to actually write to actually get it passed. We couldn't
get it passed. But what we did when we came
in office and during the time that I've been Vice President,

(19:21):
is we passed an executive order. So whereas we were
trying and I have been trying to make these things
national so that everyone would have to do it, an
executive order by the President in our administration says that
for federal law enforcement, the following things have to happen,
which we for the first time put in place no
knock warrants, barring chokeholds, a national database. Now it's for

(19:43):
federal law enforcement, but a national database for us to
collect information and track police officers who have broken the law.
And this is no small issue, this piece in addition
everything else, because as we know, we've seen plenty of
examples of a police officer who committed misconduct and one
jurisdiction and then goes to another jurisdiction and gets hired

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because there's no place that's tracking their misconduct.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
So these are the sum of the things that we've done.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
And then listen, I'm still going to always work on
getting the Judge George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. Packed
part of the work that I'm doing as a candidate
for President of the United States includes lifting up those
candidates who are running either for reelection or for the
first time to Congress, who are supportive of what we
need to do on all of the issues we've been discussing,

(20:32):
whether it be freedom to vote in passing the John
Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, whether it be freedom to
make decisions about your own body, whether it be the
freedom to just be and be free from any brutality,
including police brutality when and where it occurs.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think a lot of the frustration comes from people
who will say, sometimes politicians volunteer lives because you know, yes,
it's great to try to pass the George Floyd Policing Act,
but you probably know you can't get the vote. So
why push that? Why push that on people?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
I don't I don't subscribe to that approach, And I'm
going to tell you why. Look, it took a long
time for the Voting Rights Act to get done. It
took you know, it took the brutality of of of
what happened when when John Lewis and all those were
trying to cross the Edmund Pettis Bridge.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
It took it.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Took a lot of work over our history to do
what we have accomplished thus far, and we have to
remain committed.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
How do you convince Republican centers, as you just said, but.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
But well, part of it is that their constituents are
part of this. I mean, we have plenty of folks
who want this, who live in districts where they serve.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And this is the point.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
This gets back to the earlier point about you can't
let anybody take you out of the game by not voting.
You got the solutions, And maybe this is the point
you're making about what President Obama's The solutions are not
going to happen just overnight, and the solutions that we
all want are not going to happen in totality because

(22:09):
of one election. But here's the thing. The things that
we want and are prepared to fight for won't happen
if we're not active, and if we don't participate, we
cannot allow circumstances to take us out the game. Because
then basically what we're saying is all those people who
are obstructionists who are standing in the way of change
they're winning because they're convincing people that it can't be done.

(22:34):
So take yourself out, don't participate. Look at that circle,
look at that vicious circle then, so let's not fall
for it.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Zeke. This is my man, is Zeke. He's the president
and CEO of New Era Detroit. He wants to talk
to you about your blackmail agenda for the black community,
just your agenda for the black community period. Zeke, what's up? Brother?
What up?

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Do?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
What up do?

Speaker 10 (22:59):
Madam Vice Praerident Charlotte Magne the God what up? Don't
Welcome to Detroit. I like to say the real Detroit
because I'm up in here. My name is Zeke Newer,
founder and CEO. I've worked on the ground here in
Detroit and the black communities all across the country for

(23:19):
over the past ten years. Actually celebrating our tenth year
this past August. In my ten years of organizing, we
played a major role in the resurgence of pride and
the change of mindset in Detroit neighborhoods across the city.
We are not only known for the work that we
do here in Detroit, but across the country and black communities.

(23:41):
I'm having worked in over thirty five cities of the
blackest cities in America. I'm saying all that to say
I'm extremely qualified to sit in front of the current
vice president and which can be the next president of
the United States of America. As I opposed my question
to you, I would first like to make it known
that I don't have any emotional connections to politicians. I

(24:04):
believe that this is one of our biggest flaws in
the current political process. I view politics as a business,
and America is one of the biggest corporations in the world.
With that being said, I'm here on behalf of the
business of the black community. With all that Black Americans
have been through and contribute to the success of America,

(24:25):
I feel that there should be an in depth investigation
or evaluation of the lack of resources and current living
conditions in black communities nationwide. My caution to you is
what's your stance on reparations. We all know that America
became great, you know, off the backs of free black labor.

(24:48):
How progressive are you on making it a priority and
right in America's wrongs. It's understood that you are running
for president for all people of America, asking for specifics
for black communities, doesn't mean don't do for others. But
Black Americans are heavily asked to vote Democrat in every

(25:09):
election for over half a century, with very little in return.
What are your plans to address these very important issues
and change that narrative?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Make you, Zeke?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
I appreciate that, thank you, and thank you for your work.
So to your point, yes, I am running to be
a president for all Americans. That being said, I do
have clear eyes about the disparities that exist and the
context in which they exist, meaning history. To your point,

(25:42):
so my agenda, well, first of all, on the point
of reparations, it has to be studied, There's no question
about that, and I've been very clear about that position.
In terms of my immediate plan, I will tell you
a few of the following one as it relates to
the economy, which is a lot of what you have addressed. Look,
I grew up in the middle class. My mother, you know,

(26:05):
worked hard, raised me and my sister, and by the
time I was in high school, she was able to
afford our first home. I know what it means for
an individual and a family to have home ownership. I
also know in the context of history. Nobody got forty
acres and a mule. We have a history of a
number of things, including redlining. Detroit knows it well, a

(26:27):
history of, for example, something that still exists that I've
worked on to address, which is racial bias and home appraisals.
And we know home ownership is Black families are forty
percent less likely to be homeowners than others, and that
home ownership is one of the surest ways to build
intergenerational wealth. Right because when you own a home, that's

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when if your child says, Daddy, I want to go
to college, you can say, sweetheart, don't have to take
out a loan.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'll take some equity out of the house.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Or if your child says I want to start a
same a small business, same point.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Right.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
So my includes making sure that for first time home
buyers they have a twenty five thousand dollars down payment
assistance to just get their foot in the door, because
we know folks will work hard, they'll save and pay
that monthly mortgage. Second point is to bring down the
cost of housing generally, because one of the issues is

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we have a housing supply shortage, and so that's about
working with the private section in terms of our small businesses,
which are part of the backbone of the economy of
the Black community and part of the backbone of America's economy.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Writ large.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
My second mother, woman who helped raise us, was a
small business owner. I know who our small business owners are,
and I have convened black small business owners way before
I was running for president in my official office at
the White House, to talk with young entrepreneurs, mostly young
about the work that they are doing that is about
clean energy, work, technology, as well as the traditional you know,

(27:58):
whether it be a barbershop or arrest. One of the
big issues facing black entrepreneurs and black small businesses.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Is access to capital.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Because unlike my opponent who got handed four hundred million
dollars on a silver platter and then file bankruptcy six times,
don't forget that calls himself a businessman, not everybody has
access to the capital they But we know in the
community we do not lack for ambition, aspirations, dreams, hard work,
ethic and so my work has been as vice president

(28:29):
to increase billions of dollars into community banks, and as
vice president, part of that work will also be to
change the tax deduction for startup small businesses from five
thousand dollars to fifty thousand dollars because nobody can start
a small business on five thousand dollars, and if you
don't otherwise have intergenerational wealth, how are you going to

(28:50):
be able to do it? Second point on small business
is this I'm going to do. Basically, it's a program
that is about a twenty thousand dollars unrefundable loan to
a certain to basically businesses that don't have access to
wealth and don't have those relationships, which is going to

(29:10):
directly impact a lot of small, black owned small businesses.
That twenty thousand dollars non refundable loan is what would
help somebody if they need to buy equipment, right if
they need to buy an extra chalk, depending on what
that business is, which we know that's a big part
of what holds back our small businesses, just having enough
capital to actually pay for the things that allow you

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to then put your hard work into play to actually
grow your business. The other piece, and this is something
that is critically important, is to see black folks and
in particular black men, as a whole human being and
understand that we are talking about sons. We are talking
about fathers, we are talking about grandsons, we're talking about grandparents,

(29:54):
we're talking about uncles. And so I say that as
a preface to say to other things, and then I'll
keep going one to deal with.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I mean you like that, you got that.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
To deal with health care for black people and black
men in particular, we know that we still have a
lot of work to do to increase, for example, the
high risks that we have for calling cancer for prostate
cancer right, and to increase screenings and to make sure
that people are actually going to get the screenings, not
to mention the higher risk for sickle cell. So part

(30:34):
of my agenda is about what we will do to
deal with and highlight what we've got to do to
focus on black men's health. And then a similar point
is this of caregivers are men, and we know culturally
we take care of our elders, and we have a

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lot of men in the community who are in the
Sandwich generation who are trying to take care of their
young kink kids and take care of an elder parent
or relative. And it's overwhelming for people to be able
to do both, and a lot of people have to
end up thinking about leaving their job to just do it.
So my plan is this one. In order for people
to then afford assistance for hiring health care home health care,

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they basically have to go broke to be eligible for Medicaid.
My plan is this, let's have Medicare, and this is
I've mapped it out and we can make it work.
Medicare cover the cost of home health care for seniors,
which means that you are looking at individuals in the

(31:39):
context of their whole family. Because what we know is
again understanding culture, understanding the reality lots of people are
having to leave work in.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Order to do that.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
So these are some examples of my agenda, and overall,
it is an agenda that understands, by the way, because
we've talked already a lot about criminal justice, that the
needs of the black community are not just about criminal justice.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
We need that money.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
It's about yeah, because here's the thing. We have brought
down black unemployment. I said this earlier to the one
of the lowest levels in history. But I'm very clear
the community is not going to stand up in applaud
just because everybody has a job. That should be a baseline.
My agenda is about tapping into the ambitions and the aspirations,

(32:25):
knowing that folks want to have an opportunity. If they want,
they should have a meaningful opportunity to build wealth, including
intergenerational wealth, and that's my agenda.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You know a couple of things that you said, appreciate you,
thank you, thank you. Think there were a couple of
things that you said that people would say, we're talking points,
but it's really just your story, even though they are
becoming your greatest hits when you talk about the middle
class and your godmother being a small business owner. But
that's just your story.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
It's my story. Look, I've been in this race seventy days.
Some people are just getting to know me. Other people
have known me, and I owe it.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I feel very strongly I need to earn every vote,
which is why I'm here having this candid conversation with
you and your listeners. I have to earn people's support
and I am working to do that.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Before we go to another talk back call, I want
to say they were the time I had a politician
tell me once that if you're running for a national election,
it's bad electoral strategy to say you are going to
do things specifically for black people, which is why a
lot of politicians don't speak directly to their plans for
black people. Is that a thing?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I don't know that that's true.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
I think that what is true is that I am
running to be a president for everybody. But I am
clear eight about the history and the disparities that exist
for specific communities, and I'm not going to shy away
from that. It doesn't mean that my policies aren't going
to benefit everybody, because they are. Everything I just talked
about will benefit everybody. Small business owners, whatever their race,

(33:57):
their age, their gender, their geographic location, are going to
benefit from the fact that I'm going to extend tax
deductions to fifty thousand dollars. Every first time homeowner, wherever
they are, whatever their race, will benefit. If they are
a first time home buyer with a twenty five thousand
dollars down payment of sixes. Everyone is going to benefit
from my plan to extend the child tax credit to

(34:18):
six thousand dollars for the first year of their child's life.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
That's going to benefit everybody.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
But I do realize again that on the issue of
home ownership, for example, black people are forty percent less
likely to own a home.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
So do you you know, do you feel like President
Obama stepped on your roll out because I know you've
been working on this blackmail agenda for a long time
and you've been doing the outreach, you know, which was
the Opportunity Economy tour and things like that. But then
he made the statements that he made last week. So
everybody thinks this is a reaction to that.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Oh no, no, no, no, I mean you just have
to no, obviously not. I've been doing this for quite
some time, including before I was running for president.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Let's go to talk about Geddy.

Speaker 11 (34:56):
Hi.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
I'm Bobby from Georgia and I have a question for
Kabl Harris. Could you please respond to Trump's claim that
he's going to use the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen
ninety eight to round up immigrants if he wins the election.
This law was last used to put Asian Americans in
internment camps during World War Two, and I have a

(35:18):
sneaking suspicion that if Trump wins, He's going to use
this law to put anyone that doesn't look white in camps.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
And I'm scared.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, So you've hit on a really important point and
expressed it, I think so well, which is he is
achieving his intended effect to make you scared. He is
running full time on a campaign that is about instilling fear,
not about hope, not about optimism, not about the future,

(35:53):
but about fear. And so this is yet another example.
Look what he did and saying that those legal imgrants
in Springfield, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Were eating their pets.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
He and by the way, the hypocrisy of it abounds
because on the issue of immigration, let's be clear, some
of the most conservative members of the United States Congress,
working with others, came up with a border security bill
which was the strongest toughest border security bill in a
long long time. It would have put fifteen hundred more

(36:28):
border agents at the border. It would have reduced the
flow of fentanyl into our country, which is killing people
all over our country of every race and background. It
would have allowed us to do more work on prosecuting
transnational criminal organizations, which I have done in my career.
Trump got word that that bill was afoot, knew it
would fix a problem, and told his buddies in Congress

(36:51):
to kill the bill. And you know why, because he
would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing
a problem, and he's running his campaign in a way
that he does these rallies where people by the way,
and does these rallies to try and and still fear
around an issue where he actually could be part of
a solution, but he chose not to because he prefers

(37:12):
to run on a problem instead of fix a problem.
And we've got to call it out and see it for.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
But doesn't the Biden administration have to take some blame
for the border though a lot of the blame, because
I mean, the first three years, y'all did get a
lot of things wrong with the border.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Charlemagne, within hours of being inaugurated, the first bill we passed,
before we did the Inflation Reduction Act, before we did
the bipart is An Infrastructure Act, before we did the
Safer Communities Act to deal with gun violence, first thing
we dropped was a bill to fix the broken immigration system,

(37:46):
which by the way, Trump did not fix when he
was president, and you can look at every step along
the way. We then tightened up the asylum application process.
We then worked with what we needed to do to
secure ports of entry. We did a number of things,
including what we did to try and get that border

(38:06):
security bill passed, and then also an executive order that
has actually reduced significantly the number of illegal crossings and
tightened up what needs to happen in between ports of entry.
But no, we've been working on it ever since. But
but here's here's here's what what has to happen. Congress

(38:28):
has to act to fix the immigration system, and it
has been broken for a long time. Congress has to act.
But it does not help when finally a bipartisan group
got together to fix it and Donald Trump told them,
hold on, don't do that because it won't It won't
help me politically.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Why do you allow him to call you the borders
are when that's not even your.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'm not giving him permission for that, But.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I mean, you don't push back on it because that
wasn't you. That's not that wasn't your role.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
With fact checkers have made that clear.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Look, if I responded to every name he called me,
I wouldn't be focused on the things that actually helped
the American people. And that's my focus.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
That is true. Before we go to talk about I
want to have to say something else. I don't feel like
the Biden administration has treated Trump like a real threat
to democracy, and that's why America doesn't realize how much
of a threat he is. It's one thing to say it,
but you have to act on it. Don't you believe
Merrick Garland should have moved faster to put Donald Trump
in prison for leading an attempt to cool his country.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
The Department Justice, it has independence in terms of how
they make those decisions, as they should. And let's also
be very clear, don no, well, no, Donald Trump has
been very clear that he would weaponize the Department of
Justice against his political lanemies. He has been very clear
that he would take out the independent folks who are

(39:48):
in there and put in there instead his loyalists. So
I understand again you talk about because this brings it
back to exactly your point about threats to our democracy.
Donald Donald Trump would go into the Department of Justice
and manipulate it in such a way that it would
be used as a weapon against his political enemies.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, he's gonna lock y'all up if he gets back
and over.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Well, by the way he's gonna you should look at
his words. I don't think that you, as a journalist
should feel so so about the journalists judges, others, and
you know who does that. Dictators do that, Other countries
do that, Which is say that you're gonna send as
he has the military to go and and suppress peaceful protesters.

(40:38):
That happens in other countries. That's not supposed to happen
in America. So do understand when this man says what
he says, how that would play out in real time?

Speaker 3 (40:49):
So why is it okay for him to say he'll
lock up his political opponents, but it's not okay for
y'all to say he should be in prison when he's
actually committed crimes.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Oh, I have been very clear.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
I think that the court should handle that, and I'm
gonna handle November.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
The court should handle that. Okay, let's go to talkback, Eddie.
What'll we got.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
Our men and women in the military are sent to
foreign countries to fight for their freedom, win or lose.
Donald Trump has promised to seek revenge. My question is
will our military be there to fight for our freedom
after the election? Should Trump start another insurrection?

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Well, you raise a profound point that is very much
a part of this election cycle in terms of what
the American people have.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
A choice right now.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
So January sixth, Donald Trump incited a violent mob to
try and undo the will of the people and undo
the results of a free and fair election. That violent
mom attacked the United States Capital. Over one hundred and
forty law enforcement officers were injured, some of them were killed,

(42:09):
and he has said since then that there will be
a bloodbath after this election. He has, on your point
about the military, referred to members of our military as
suckers and losers, which is why, by the way, do
see the number of military leaders who worked under his

(42:29):
administration who are supporting me. And I will point out
what everyone knows, which is that the people who worked
the closest with Donald Trump when he was president, worked
with him in the oval office, saw him at play
in the situation room. His chief of staff, two secretaries
of Defense, is national security advisor, and his former vice
president have all said he is dangerous and unfit to serve.

(42:54):
Mark Milly, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
most recently articulated exactly that point. And again, you know,
here's Charlemagne. One of the things that I think is
really ironic, but at play Donald Trump, through his his
his way of trying to name call and demean and divide,

(43:20):
tries to project as though those things are a sign
of strength, when in fact the man is really quite weak.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
He's weak.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
It's a sign of weakness that you want to please
dictators and seek their flattery and favor. It's a sign
of weakness that you would demean America's military and America's
service members. It's a sign of weakness that you don't
have the courage to stand up for the Constitution of

(43:50):
the United States and the principles upon which it stands.
This man is weak and he is unfit.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
So why is everybody sitting around acting like Donald Trump
isn't going to a plan to steal this election if
you lose, like, you know, Republican officials won't certify the
result of the election. We know is Donald Trump Supreme Court?
Why are people acting like this is going to be
a free in fair election and he won't try to
steal it.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Well, but those are two different points, Okay, So it
will be a free and fair election if we the
American people stand up for that.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
You know, I see it as this.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I think that their democracy has its like two points
of nature. One, there's a fact about a democracy that
when it is intact the strength that it possesses in
terms of the protection of people's individual rights and liberties.
When a democracy is intact, we protect your rights and

(44:42):
your liberties. Strength democracy is also very fragile. It will
only be as strong as our willingness we the people
to fight for it, and not as much as anything
is what's that plan in this election? Fight for our democracy?
Flawed though it is imperfect, though it may be because

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there are very two real paths right now. The man
has told you he has to terminate the Constitution. The
man has told you all these things about his disregard
and disrespect for your freedoms and liberty, including the right
of a woman to make decisions about her own body.
And he hand selected three members of the United States
Supreme Court with the intention they would do exactly what

(45:26):
they did. One out of three women in America lives
in a state with the Trump abortion band. You know,
every state except Virginia in the South has an abortion band.
You know where the majority of black women live in
the South, in those same states that have some of
the highest rates of black maternal mortality. And they want
to strut around talking about this is in the interest

(45:49):
of women and children, and they've been silent on an
issue like black maternal mortality.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
But I know that people are.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Aware and clear eyed, and I do believe that on
election day and early voting in Michigan starts in four days,
people are going to go to the polls and they're
going to vote to stand up for these principles and
to stand up for their rights to freedom and liberty

(46:19):
and to live and just be free to be.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I believe that I.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Want to bring in my guy Ice weear vessel. He's
very politically engaged. I want to ask you a question
why he's coming in this quick question. There's a room
in that Janet Jackson is mad at you because you
prosecuted her brother, the late Great Michael Jackson. That's that's
on the internet. Cleared that up for people.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
That's just not.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
True on either account. She's I mean, I don't know,
I don't know. I have not talked to her, but
it's certainly it's not true about her brother, that's all.

Speaker 12 (46:48):
Charlotte Manne, what's up, madam Vice President? How are you
doing today? As with Sandy Troit?

Speaker 7 (46:53):
What up?

Speaker 11 (46:53):
Though?

Speaker 12 (46:54):
So yesterday I read that there's a new opportunity Agenda,
a plan for black men which includes a proposal of
forgivable loans up to twenty thousand dollars for one million
black entrepreneurs. What would you say to the people that
will consider the timing of this proposal as political timing,
and how would you speak to the sentiment that support

(47:16):
for black men is only sought out during election cycles
and feels that building trust requires consistent engagement and genuine
investment into the community outside of election periods and political
benefits for politicians, and may view that some people in
the Democrat Party use Black Americans to play identity politics.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
So, first of all, thank you for your question for
being here. I've been in this race about seventy days.
You can look at all my work before those seventy
days to know this. What I'm talking about right now
is not new and is not for the sake of
winning this election. This is about a long standing commitment,
including the work that I've done as Vice president and

(48:00):
when I was Senator and before that. In fact, a
lot of what I'm doing that is about my economic
agenda and opportunity economy was born out of the work
I did as Vice president before that, as Senator more
most recently, to get access to capital for our entrepreneurs.
The work that I did in the Senate was about

(48:20):
getting a couple billion more dollars into our community banks,
and then building on that. When I became Vice President,
I created it. It's called the Economic Opportunity Council, bringing
in some of the biggest banks and technology companies to
put more into the community banks. And I'm going to
tell you one of the reasons why, because I have
been aware for years black entrepreneurs only get one percent

(48:42):
of venture capital funding. Of all the venture capital funding,
only one percent goes to black entrepreneurs. We don't have
the same rates of access to capital, be it through
family or through connections. Which is why I've done the
work of put billions more dollars and working to put
billions more dollars into community banks, which go right directly

(49:05):
to the community. My work around the twenty thousand dollars
is building on that and understanding that you know, I convened,
for example, I said this earlier a group of black entrepreneurs,
way before I was running for president, in my official
office at the White House, to hear some of the
obstacles that they were facing, and one of them was

(49:27):
what we need to do around getting folks the help
to just be able to buy the equipment they need
to run their business. And oftentime, we find that when
black entrepreneurs and black people apply for credit, they're denied
at a higher rate than others. We have also seen

(49:47):
and the data proves this that all of those the
realities also tend to dissuade black folks and black entrepreneurs
in particularly from even applying for credit. So my point
is to work on every way that we can approach
the issue to encourage people and to invest in their ambition,

(50:14):
because I know the ambition is there, I know the
talent is there, I know the innovation is there, and
certainly the hard work ethic. So this is not new
work for me.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
And just speak to the American Rescue Plan too, because
I mean tens of millions of dollars. I know small
businesses in North Carolina that small black businesses that got
tens of million dollars because of that. You speak to that, that's.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Right, and that was from the first time, from when
we first came in the American Rescue Plan, the work
that we have done, that the Infrastructure Bill I mean
part of that is we made a decision that we
were going to increase the number of federal contracts that
go to historically underrepresented businesses. This was way before I

(50:55):
was running with this years ago, so this is not
new work.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Let's go to feature.

Speaker 11 (51:01):
On several occasions recently, John Lemon has stated that there's
a large group of black men who believed Donald Trump
sent them a personal check during COVID because his name
was on it versus it coming from the government as
a stimulus check. Can you provide some clarification on this.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I'm so glad you raised that.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
So so here's what happened. A majority Democratic Congress fought
to get those stimulus checks out, fought against resistance by
the Trump administration, and one because we had a majority
of Democrats in Congress, and that's why those checks went out.

(51:43):
As we all know and grew up learning, Congress holds
the purse strings. It was Congress that made that decision.
And then Donald Trump, never being one to pass up
an opportunity to give himself credit when no credit is due,
put his name on those checks, and sadly, it resulted
in people thinking Donald Trump was responsible for and directly

(52:04):
responsible for putting money in their pocket, when in fact
it was a Democratic majority Congress that was responsible for
those checks going out.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Why is it hard for Democrats to message their wins
on the economy? Like since World War Two, the economy
has done better under a Democrat president. This is just
a historical fact. But for some reason, the narrative is
that the economy does better under Republicans. Why do people
believe that and why don't Democrats push back on that
narrative more?

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Well?

Speaker 4 (52:30):
You know, I think that part of the issue is
that Democrats probably talk about it more in terms of
what we are doing for people rather than the economy,
when in fact, when you do for people, the economy grows.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
And you are absolutely right, Charlemagne, you.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Will look at the growth of the economy under in
compare democratic and Republican administrations, Democrats have been accelerated economic
growth my plan for example. Okay, so some of the
smartest economists in the country have reviewed and compared my
plan to Donald Trump's plans for the economy, from Goldman

(53:13):
Sachs to Moody's to sixteen Nobel Laureates and even most
recently the Wall Street Journal, and in comparing our two plans.
The net result is my plans will strengthen the economy.
His plans will weaken the economy. Their reports come back
and include the fact that Donald Trump's plans for the
economy would accelerate inflation and invite a recession by the

(53:35):
middle of next year. My plans would strengthen the economy
as a whole. You look at under what we've been doing.
You look at the stock market is one of the
strongest it's ever been, Wages of outpaced inflation. Inflation is
going down to I think it's now the most recent
numbers two point four percent. So but those you know,
nobody wants to hear an econ one on one lecture, right,

(53:57):
But the reality of it, to your point is that
under democratic rule, the economy gets strengthened. And certainly when
you look at my plan for my presidency, it will
strengthen the economy and it will help people. And as
per the conversation we've been having today, perhaps the issue

(54:19):
is that I'm gonna always think about it in the
context of how am I helping working people? How am
I helping families? How am I helping people in the
middle class? How am I helping people who have been
without access having access. That's how I talk about it.
But my plan is about strengthening the economy. And I
know when you strengthen the economy, that's how you do it.

(54:40):
You do it by investing in the middle class. Let
me tell you the contrast. Donald Trump thinks about the
economy based on what he has done and will do.
Cutting taxes for billionaires in the biggest corporations. That's how
he thinks about the economy. He thinks about the economy,
not about middle class people trying to not just get by,
but get ahead. No, he wants to to stop Medicare

(55:01):
from being able to negotiate drug prices down from the
big pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
We got a couple more questions. I want to get more,
man Eric Thompson here, because we only got like a
few more minutes. But I do want to say President
Obama was out there last week waving his finger at
black men. When are Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton going
waveday finger at white women. Went to Bill Clinton and
Joe Biden going wave their finger at white men. Because
fifty two percent of white women voted for Trump in
twenty sixteen, fifty five percent voted for Trump in twenty twenty.

(55:28):
They all voted against their own interests when their finger
waving gonna start at them.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Well, thank you for highlighting that I do have the
support of over two hundred Republicans who worked for various administrations,
including everyone going back to Ronald Reagan to the Bushes,
to John McCain and Romney, and including Liz Channing. I'm
very proud to have her support. And I believe that

(55:54):
they who many of them who may have voted for
Trump before, are supporting me because, as they know, the
stakes are so high in terms of our very democracy
and rule of law.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
And so the finger wagon should start today a tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Well, I think what is happening is that we are
all working on reminding people of what is at stake,
and that is very important.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Eric, real quick. We only got a few minutes, only.

Speaker 13 (56:23):
Got a few minutes. Thank you, man and Vice President
for having me. Thank you, Charlotte and the god h So.
As an employee of a mission driven nonprofit bank, I
appreciate the efforts in that bank. I work with Investor Trade,
but as chief storyteller to City Detroit, I spent a
lot of time dispelling information about the city of Detroit.
And so I'm sure for those of us who are
like me, if Donald Trump doesn't like the trade so much,

(56:44):
he's not welcome back now.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
But okay, I don't want to interrupt. I don't know
what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Okay, go on, but you can get into it.

Speaker 13 (56:54):
I just wanted to say that we know that there's
been a lot of conversation about growing the middle class,
but black men have been taking out of workforce for
a myriad of systemic reasons, from mass in corporation to
racial bias, fear mongering. We know that black men are
not criminals, they are criminalized, and that has taken black
men out of the home, has taken wealth out of
the home. And so because especially in the city with
such high poverty, I've heard a lot about middle class,

(57:16):
but I would love to hear more about stare stepping
from poverty into middle class so they can take advantage
of the opportunities and the policies you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
That's right, and that's real.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
So, for example, the child tax credit, when we did
it when I first became vice president, we cut black
child poverty by half. And you know when you deal
with poverty for a child, that's about the whole family.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
When you look at the work that we have done
that has been about dealing with prescription medication for our seniors,
Black people are sixty percent more likely to get diagnosed
with diabetes and have And when you look at what
people are in terms of on the or to bankruptcy
because of medical bills and medical debt, that's very real.

(58:05):
So us capping the cost of something like insulin and
prescription medication, not to mention the work that I've been
doing to ensure that medical debt does not get included
on your credit score. Because medical debt comes about because
of a medical emergency. Nobody invites it upon themselves. And
back to the point about history and the reality of life.
We also know the real disparities around access to meaningful

(58:27):
health care, which are more likely to result in people
facing chronic illness and in medical emergency. So my work
has been and included working to get medical debt not
beyond your credit score, so that that thing you did
not invite upon yourself would not be the reason that
you can't get a lease on an apartment or anything else.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
We have to deal with child poverty.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
We have to deal with poverty, period, and there are
many specific ways to do it, including dealing with getting
resources into the community that alleviate the burdens that hold
people down. But back to Detroit, can so can you
imagine you go to a city and you say you

(59:12):
want the votes of those people, and then you disparage
the city. And that's what he did in Detroit. And
he has a tendency to mention cities that either have
a historically black majority population or a black mayor.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
That's right, and that's what he did. He only did
that to Detroit because Detroit is seventy eight percent black
and he doesn't want America to look like that. Madam
Vice President. Thank you. We gotta do this again.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
We're done.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
We only according to iHeart. I just want to keep going.
I got more questions for you, but thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I appreciate you man, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
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