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Rod and Karen banter about broth, restaurant playing your personal playlist,  kids at Hornets games and the shady in-arena announcers at games. Then they discuss LGBTQ news, Drake gets cooked on morning TV, Method Man denies assaulting his daughter's ex, Busta Rhymes arrested for assault, Cardi B calls out OffSet, social media is cooking us as a society and sword ratchetnes.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, I listened to the Black Guy You Tips podcast
because Rod and Caroing or hot.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, welcome to another episode of the Black Altels podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I'm your host, Rod Joint is always on my cost.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Here and we are live on a Wednesday, ready to
give you a little bit of a podcasting, you know,
a little down and dirty podcasting, quick and to the point.
That's what we do over here. You can find us
everywhere you find podcasts. Of course, look at the show
notes you'll see links to everything right including our live

(00:34):
show coming up February twenty eighth in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
We love to see you there. We know people are
buying tickets.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We know people are getting their virtual tickets for those
who can't attend, So we don't want to hear that
I couldn't make it man, And well, just because you
couldn't be there physically, it doesn't mean you couldn't be
there virtually.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
So show up and show out, you know, and we're
selling pretty well right now, you know we're doing good.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
They're still excuse me, there's still some VIP tickets available,
so you know, get them to their gone. Sorry, don't
don't bail me out. Can I just don't say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Just let me off.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, it's fine, No, it's fine. If we've only done
three thousand shows, there's no need to. How could you
possibly know that I was choking and need someone to
help anyway, The official weapon of the show is the
volting cheer and unofficial sports bullet ball Extreme.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Sorry, buddy, you kept you pushing through it, so I
was like, should I interrupt?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Should I'm not interrupt?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I was pushing through it because there was nothing of
the choice.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Do you have any do you have any.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Do you have any banter?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Banter? Banter? Banter banter? Do you have any.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Talk to me? Do you have any banter? Banter? All right, Karen,
go ahead and hit me with that banter. Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
The first thing is I have been telling y'all I
was doing my uh getting prepared for my colony coopie test,
and I did it over with Friday. Yeah, the test
is that Friday and stuff like that went smooth, went well,
everything is good. They was like, we see you in
ten years. I was like, good, So I'm glad to

(02:42):
kind of get that over with.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
The only thing is like the last day of the
day before basically, uh, you are like on a all
liquid kind of a diet, and one of the things
you can eat is like broth, and so I am like, yeah,
next time, I'm doing chicken because I got beef, and
beef is scrown and it's just I can't explain it,

(03:08):
but it was not good. It was not brofit, and
I was like, no, I was salt peppering that shit
to death and it was terrible. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think it's interesting that you think the chicken broth
would be like better because you haven't tried it to
know either. But I think I had, uh, well, I
think I had both of them when I got mine.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I just don't think. I think obviously we don't like broth.
When the fuck else do I do broth?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Unless I've never.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Been in a I've never been in a restaurant and
been like, ooh, the broth I don't even know if
that's on the menu.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
In most places is not normally chicken and beef.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Broth is like in a super a stew, like you're
adding it to something else to kind of enhance the
flavor of it. You normally don't just straight through the
broth by itself.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I think broth don't really slap like that.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I think you see people whereabout it is if they're
on a diet or something like that.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But you know, I came up with an idea.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think I'm gonna try it next time if whenever
that is, I think I would buy like egg drop.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Soup, or buy.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Sweet and sour soup, hot and sour soup from a
from a Chinese place, because I love those soups. Strain
it meaning I take you know, take take it and
put it through you know, something that takes every all
the particles out of it and stuff, and then that
would be the broth for me. I think that's if
that would I do that next time?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, that would be flames because that that that flavorless bullshit.
I was like, oh no, I was like child boo.
I was like, I'm still.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, you weren't gonna not be hungry, that you can't
eat any physical food, like, so you're not gonna get full.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's the whole point of the last day.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, that's true, and something I wasn't prepared for that
actually gives you pictures of them of the test results,
which is really neat and cool and weird because I
was not expecting the pictures. I was like, oh, but
I was like, well, at least I know everything is good,
so that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
And I will say this though, on the last day,
you can have jello, and they tell you specifically what
kind of jello you can and can't have, and in
our case, you can have you cannot have red or
I believe purple. And so I went to go buy jello.

(05:42):
I was on my walk and I was like, I'll
stop my hairs. T didn't get carrying some jello, but
they only have red in the store. I said, okay,
I'll go to a different store. And I said, well,
since I'm driving back home carrying, and come with me.
Karen comes with me to the store. We get to
the jello section. I'm like, go ahead, pick out the jello.
She picks up immediately a two pack of jello. It's

(06:05):
a jello that has two different flavors in it. Red
which she can't have, which they specifically tell you you
cannot do, and orange. And I said, what are you
doing and she said, oh, it's got different is this

(06:25):
variety pack? And I said, the variety is red and orange.
She's like yeah, they said I can't have red. I'm like,
orange is fucking orange?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Is red? Orange? Our cousins Orange and Red hang out together.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
They favor they go to the same family reunion Orange relatives.
They would get confused for each other walking around campus.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Why would you possibly want Why would you even risk.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
That while you're on the last day, You've already been
doing all the right stuff that you don't want to
they gotta go in your butt twice now because you
was well, we had three rules and this person broke
them immediately. It's like like they're gonna be looking at
your butt with the camera and be like, oh, no,
that's orange. We of course we can handle orange. It's
the red yello throws off the test. I don't know

(07:16):
what you were thinking.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Men, my bad. I think my brain was like, oh,
it's doing the back I'm realizing.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I think I think we have a video game downloaded
in the background. I'm gonna go stop the PlayStation, but
go to your next you got another one, Go to
your next one.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I'm gonna listen from the other one. No problem.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So as y'all can see, I can be difficult sometimes
and I didn't mean to do it, but I'm glad
he caught it.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
So I ended up with lining y'all.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
So line was the color because line wouldn't near none
of it, and it was It was good because I
was googling on line about it was like if you
still feel kind of hunger, It was like if you
like yello jello is it's a little more feeling.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So that's why I did the jello.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
There's nothing better than going to a restaurant that has
your personal playlist.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Because we had went to this.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Restaurant and I was like every single song they had
playing in the background.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
I was like, uh, do they know me a my Spotify?
I don't know what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
But I am having a good time eating and dancing.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
I don't mind eating the dancing like like that.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's my jam. I kind of got it like a
happy dance. I like move around and stuff when when.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Food is good to me.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Cause I really liked eat and so I had a
ball doing that.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
You so you don't have anything, I only have one thing,
but you can keep going. Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, we had went to the Hornets game on Memorial Day,
not Memorial Day, Mlkday, and it was a little kid
behind us and I started laughing because the little kid,
well I think it was Hugo or somebody.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
He was like, you'll see me. He kept yell.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I was like, I hate to tell you, I ain't
want to turn around this point. The baby be like, baby,
I'm think they see you. They do not see you.
It's two hundred of us over here. You They are
not specifically specifying you out of the crowd.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Child.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
And I think people you really got to go to
if you if you're I can't say every sporting event
because I don't think this about NFL, but definitely for basketball,
it's the best. They are the best fans NBA basketball people.
I wouldn't even say the same for college. I really
think NBA basketball fans are like the best version of fans.
And I'm not saying they're perfect. Obviously, it's still people.

(09:33):
But kids are what it's really about. And when there's
certain games where there's kids there and stuff, or someone
brings a kid, it, honestly, it really makes so much
of the anger and the adult disappointment and it just
makes it feel so silly to me because it's just
like kids are having It's supposed to be a fun thing,

(09:57):
supposed to be an enjoyable supposed you know, and so
kids get it. Like the kids go to the game,
Yes they're rooting for the home team, but they're also
kind of rooting for like the favorite players.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
On the other teams.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, they want to see like good things happen
and that you know, they get into the dumb ass
t shirt throwing and all the stuff that like adults
won't let themselves enjoy. And the kids aren't there to
gamble on the parlayer or anything.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
They're just they enjoying the jumbo tron. They just yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And it's really refreshing because the way most people consume
sports is via watching on TV and then maybe social media.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And if you look at social.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Media, if you look at adults, if you look at
podcast about sports, almost all of them are kind of
downers because it's very serious. It's very what's going on
with the salary? Why can't my team win? What's going
on with you know, how, why is this play not working?
Why so and so is in the forty six percent out?
And it's just like when you're watching the game, you're

(10:56):
just not even thinking about that, and the kids are
never thinking about that, and they're the ones having the
most fun, and they do want their team to win
and lose. They they know what it looks like when
something's bad, but it just doesn't become this all consuming, like,
you know, waste of time for them in that way.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And Yeah, I enjoy being around the kid.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, and particularly MLK. The game was sold out. This
right here had to be one of the longest lines
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Going into the arena.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Me and Rogers was like, yeah, let's go early because
they was giving away a bubblehead.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
And when we showed up, I looked at that line.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
I was like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
But then I got my snooty owner and I was like,
I am a season ticket holder.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I was like, I'm not hanging out that long ass line.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Let me c So we got in quick and I
was like, good, this this is why.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We split up.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I said, I'll go to the back of the line
just in case it's the line that we need to
be in. But I said, you just go check the
season ticket holder line and see if that if we
can go in that way, because sometimes they have it
that way and sometimes they don't. And they had it,
so we got to skip a bunch of people and
we both got our Bible heads and this is the
only thing I had for the banter is uh, you

(12:13):
know we were sitting where we sit is are like
everyone in that row. I think probably at season tickets.
But the way a lot of people, especially people that
have had them for a long time, the way they
do it is like they come to some games, you know,
if the team's not good or whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I don't blame them, they don't come.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
And they normally I don't think they're giving them away,
they're reselling them on stub Hub or whatever. So a
lot of times we end up sitting next to people
that we don't know, and then people that are like, you.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Know, like I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Like if we're playing the Dallas Mavericks, then two fans
of the Mavericks will buy the season next to us.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
They'll come to watch their team.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You know, no, no big deal, it's not you know,
like I said, these are the best kind.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Of fans, these NBA fans.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
So even then, even when you're sitting next to like
a person cheering against your team, it's never like the NFL. Yeah,
it's never like the NFL where it's like, am I
gonna have to shoot this motherfucker or something.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
So, anyway, a lot of times it's the opposing team,
but this time it was a guy taking his son
to see the Hornets, and they were Hornets fans, and
you know, they were cheering the whole game. The kid
had a sign that was like put me on TV,
y'all love the Hornets or whatever, and they just they
never put the camera on our section really, so anyway,

(13:32):
they didn't put them on camera.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
But you know, we're playing and we're starting to win
the game.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
It's getting late in the fourth or whatever, and because
Karen and I got there early and we're season ticket holders,
you know, we get these bibleheads or whatever. And so
I leaned over to the dad and I'm like, hey, man,
y'all Hornets fans. And he was like, yes, we're Hornets fans.
You know, we come out to a few games or whatever.
I was like, cool, man, he was like you. I
was like, yeah, yeah, we're season ticket holders or what not.

(14:00):
And he was like okay, cool, you know, and uh,
I was like, did y'all get here early enough to
get the bibleheads? Because you know, it's kind of a
That's why the line was so fucking long. Everybody wanted
that the Bible Heads, but there's only five thousand of
them in the game was a sellout, so it's like
twenty thousand people trying to get Bibleheads and obviously knowing

(14:21):
a lot of people didn't get them right. And he
was like, nah, we didn't make it any time or whatever,
and I was like, okay, and then I just since
we got two of them, you know, I just gave
him mind and was like, you know, here here, you know,
for your son or whatever, and he was like it's
He's like, uh, it's my son's birthday. And I was like, what, Like,

(14:43):
what are the what are the fucking coincidence? What are
the odds that you know, this kid's getting taken to
the Hornets game for his birthday, and you know, to
be even like a little part of that story, to
be like hey man, little man, or hopefully he'll remember this,
or and it's a Brandon Bibblehead, which is like our
up and coming young like guy who you know everybody loves.

(15:06):
I'm sure the kids love so Uh. It was just
like a real cool like coincidence. Uh, and uh I
really enjoyed that. Like, in addition, to getting to celebrate
the Horners getting this rare.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
W Right three wins in a row.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
We on the road, so it was like a fun time,
fun game, uh you know, and uh you know, it's
like cool to be able to do something like that
for somebody.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
It was fun.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
And my last thing, this is about the game too.
And I realized this even when I listened to the
announcers on TV. But I realized, particularly going to a
lot of our.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Games, listening to the announcers.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Are huh, hilarious because no matter what's happening, if it's
anything dealing with the home team, the announcer is.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Hype Brendon Miller, Miller for the.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Three, and then somebody else hit somebody else hit something,
and they'd be like Kevin direct three and it's.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Like I'm like, well, damn, You'm not saying them niggas,
these niggas.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
It's just hilarious when they talk about the other team
and the annolson.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
It is my favorite thing because it's very shady, yes, okay,
very shady.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I and I and I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Like you know, we lost our announcer, Big Pat, because
he passed even doing it. So the guy feeling you know,
the guy who's like stepping into his shoes has a
lot of you know, shoes to feel, and I don't
or big shoes to feel. And I don't know if
it's like a thing where every announcer in every arena
does it, but definitely I would notice when Big Pat

(16:36):
would do to like get hyped for people, and I
noticed this time he's actually starting to have like little
catchphrases for different people, which is something Big Pat used
to have. But I feel like you probably want to
have new ones if you're the new announcer instead of
like this guy who passed like stepping into his shoes.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
But it was really kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
But it is always kind of fun, especially when they
do the starting lineups, because like the starting lineups is
just insane. It's like they're the music is playing. They
do a montage before your team gets.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Up there, me and Roger the theme song, well its not.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
The theme song, that's that's before they even do the
Like I think that's before they even do the that's true,
I'm saying the announcer of the starting lineup and six
six from Chino heels. You know, it's a little little
millo or whatever. The fuck, they say. But it's funny
because they do the other team first, and it don't

(17:34):
matter if they're just it could be the all Star
team they ain't gonna get. It just doesn't matter. It's
just like six six Chapel Hill Michael Jordan six seven Yes, no,
like it's just so shady. And meanwhile, it could be
like our like all our starters could be injured. It

(17:58):
could be people we've never get to see played didn't
No one bought a ticket thinking they were gonna get
to see these guys because they were hoping to see
some other guys. And when that they start that music
and it's just moosa dia bte like like our twelfth Man. Okay,
I guess I guess more people are excited here to

(18:18):
see Mussa Diabate than Lebron James. But okay, we'll see
how that works out. But yeah, it is funny how
petty and shady it is. And then obviously I don't
think this guy will be doing this thing, but Big
Pat used to do this thing where the other team
would turn the ball over and he would be like no, no.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
No, yes, it's traveling.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It will crack me up every time, and obviously, I
don't think this guy will be doing you don't like
maybe it'll come up with something or not, but you
don't want to do you know, like I said, you
want to do a big pat impression and maybe piss
some people off. But yeah, but yeah, it is one
and I love going to these games.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Anything else, all right?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Uh well, let's get into some news. Let's there are
plenty of ship happening out here in the world, uh
uh to talk about, but you know, let's start with this.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Let me see what you want to be. You better
move your body, you better move your feet, and I
want to grow. Show me what's cool riding, caring babies.
L g B t Q news We're gonna take.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I'm still.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
L g Q news, all right, l g B t
Q news. You know it's scuff about to be the
down times, y'all. It was already it was never.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Good, ain't we looking? We got him.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's never good, but it's about to be much much worse,
you know. Uh So let's get into some of these articles.
Like I said, a lot of bad news, uh go
op led Congress promises to save women with rush to
vote on anti transports bill.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
We did it have to be saved something.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Some some women did as to be saved. A lot
of Republican women, a lot of white ladies voting, you know,
for Trump, a lot of you know, conservative Christians are
the trans people are attacking us, and we're gonna get
sexually assaulted in the bathroom from the trans people, and
they're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Better at us in sports. Straight men that I know,
they don't need to be protected from the men.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Apparently they vote for them to be president, and I
want them to be head of the military. That's that's
that's different. And let them be on the Supreme Court. Uh,
that's different.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
But apparently, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
The rob Representative Greg Steube from Florida has vowed to
protect and save women from the radical left with the
reintroduction of his anti Transportsville which will be fast tracked
for a vote by the new Congress. The Protection of
Women and Girls in Sports Act was included in the
House Republican majority's new rules package as a priority to

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be voted on in the first one hundred days. The
rules package passed the House last Friday. It also says
it will be voted on as read. That is, there
can be no amendments that can slow down the voting process.
No bill numbers given in the package, but the description
of the bill mimics the bill's texts. Bill the Bill
to Amend the Education Amendments of nineteen seventy two to

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provide that, for purposes of determining compliance with Title nine
of such Act, in athletic sex shall be recognized solely
on a person's reproductive biology and genetics at birth. The
Radical Left is not in step with the American people
on the issue of protecting women's sports, he said in
a statement.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
So, yeah, and when they do this, like a lot
of other shit, uh, it's gonna be some straight women
that's gonna get caught up in this shit. You know,
let's say your test josserone just naturally is a little higher,
or you happen to be strong girl.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Some shit they gonna you.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Know, like it's this isn't a really just about trans women.
You know, this is about Oh, if you come here
fucking dominating, we're gonna find an excuse to get your
ass out of here.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's part of it.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
But like.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think it's mostly just hate, hating fear.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I like, I really there will be collateral damage of
genetically a sign that female at birth women of sis
gender women, that would be collateral damage, of course, but
they don't care about those women. This is really just
how do we attack trans people? And then on a
bigger level, it's really just how do we have an

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issue that galvanizes people to vote. Well, now that we
don't have abortion, that's the issue, and trans people are
the new abortion for Republicans, like they're they're the we're
gonna get them, We're And I think they will not
be happy until they have eradicated the idea of someone

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being able to be trans in the United States.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
And that is less of an.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Attainable goal than even restricting abortion, because what you're now
saying is someone's humanity is what you're against. And I
think they they know that it's unattainable, but they like
that it's unattainable because it becomes a new fight, that's
a forever fight that you can always go to some
conservative religious person and many non religious people, because I

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think this is bigger than religion. I don't think the
religion is telling people to hate trans people. I don't
even know if trans people are in the Bible. But
the point. The point is it's something you can get
people to get behind, to say I will support this
congress person, I will vote for this Republican because they
say they're gonna get these trans people. And so I
think that's why you see such a focus on trans
people in this new administration.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And like one of.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
His first acts Donald Trump did was to be like,
you know.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Genders is one man and woman. That's it.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know, like they're they're clearly trying to make this
into something. Mark Zuckerberg's new policy permit, new Meta policy
permits labeling lgbt Q plus identities as mentally ill. Uh So,
his pivot towards the you know, the conservative right wing

(24:42):
man the spect type of stuff is we need masculine
policies of my company, and the feminine energy is hurting
Meta and all the stuff. He's uh changing these these
policies that used to be how people we moderated, so
used to be the instructions where like, hey, democrats are

(25:05):
in power, Joe Biden's in power.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
We've had all.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
These movements and social justice movements in the last ten
years or so, and Mark Zuckerberg and them, I.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Think always begrudgingly went along with these things.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I don't think there was ever a time when and
I have to make this distinction because I've heard too
many people that I think are smart, but I feel
like are actually cutting these guys bell when they say no,
they're just afraid of Trump, and so now they're kissing
the ring and they're doing what they can to stay
on his good side.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And I disagree.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think they were staying on the good side of
people begrudgingly when they were doing shit like DEI and
moderating their website.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
It was quick to turn it over when they didn't
have to do it no more.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Also, if you've ever listened to them, because it was
a fight to get that moderation.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
None of these sites started with it.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
If you've ever listened to these white men who are
the people that own these you know, the Jack Dorsey, Zuckerberg,
Elon Musk, If you've ever listened to them, their idea
of freedom is free for all. You know. I think
even Alex o'hannian was like this, But then you start
dating Serena Williams and you know kind of grew the

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fuck up and left Reddit or whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Stop.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
But these but white men don't really have any natural predators.
So when it comes to the hierarchy of how things
are discussed, to them, the most offensive thing you can
say is they're a white man, Like, there's some white
people man bristling at me, just saying white men like,
because to them it's like, is that the.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
ND word for me? I need something to be mad about.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Anyway, If you've ever listened to them talk, they always say,
like their ideal social media idea is we all have
a free for all. We can say anything. That's what
they think. They're like, it's freedom speech. And if you
start going so freedom to call me the N word
and they're like, yeah, but then you could call them
something back, or just don't respond to it or whatever,

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you know, Because to them it's that simple. They don't
have a thing. They don't have real oppression. What the
last ten or twelve years has done, though, with a
lot of the media spear on the right, has allowed
white people and white men specifically to really galvanize and
collect themselves underneath this victim label, like we're the actual
real victims of what has happened in society. When women

(27:32):
do the me too movement, they're just making white men
and men the victims. When black people say black lives matter,
what they're really saying is that it's bad.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
White men are bad, you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
All that to say when it comes to LGBTQ plus
issues and stuff, this is part and parcel of the
DEI movement stuff to them, So it's all thrown out
like it's like they're like, you know what, you can
call people in words. But also, yeah, if you want
to say transit, bar mentally ill, sure we don't give
a fuck anymore. We're not moderating it. Put up community

(28:06):
knowne under it if you feel so, uh, you know,
so offended. But yeah, we just don't care. Mark Zuckerberg
defended the move so I didn't need to simplify content
policies and support free expression on Facebook and Instagram. I
actually had a Facebook post removed today, and know what
the post was.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
It was a clip of us saying that a restaurant
looked like a piece of hut.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, so they're still moderating something for some reason somewhere.
I don't know what the I guess I should have
said the restaurant looked it was trans piece of hut
and was mentally ill. They would have been like well, yeah,
that's fine, that passes the smell test. Making a joke
though I don't know, guys, yeah, could you could you

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villify a marginalized person and then maybe then we'll pass it.
It'll pass censorship like it's just for something that we
didn't know, right, and so it's not real freedom of speech, right,
meaning my shit, they're still deleting stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
But it's what they're allowing people to say.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I think you know, we've known Eli Musk puts
his finger on the pulse of Twitter to be like
conservative ship, fine, liberal shit.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
We need to smush this ship down.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
And so I'm not surprised that LGBTQ plus people would
be basically you can call them mentally ill now, and
that it's not a big deal to meta.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right, Let's see what else we got here.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Mike Johnson sneaks a trans bathroom band at US Capitol
into congressional rules. Uh, they are trans members of Congress.
And you know what's funny is they passed this rule.
There's trans members of Congress. I think Nancy Mason a
big deal about this shit. And obviously we're twenty two

(30:06):
days into the year. Apparently, like so.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Is the trend.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Is our trans people not using the bathroom or is
it just y'all wanted to do this shit to stunt.
But y'all, there's no enforcement policy because at the end
of the day, when people go in the bathroom, they're
going in the bathroom to to evacuate themselves or clean themselves.
No one's going in there to sexual assault anybody at
Capitol Hill.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Right, Like, it's like, I'm probably in one of these
safest places the fuck we're talking about here, Like.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's literally just to grandstand.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Because I haven't heard a word about it since and
you think you would be hearing like maybe it's just not.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Maybe we're just not seeing it.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Maybe it's just not Maybe with so much news popping off,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
It's at the bottom of the barrel. Maybe, but you
doubt it.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
But you you know, you would think you would see
trans members of Congress being like, yeah, they're not letting
me use the bathroom and I had to go to
a bathroom that I typically wouldn't use, or Nancy Mace,
you know, going in the bathroom trying to go on
live on Instagram or something and fucking like harass somebody.
But we really haven't seen that, and it makes me

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wonder if And the only reason I'm wondering this is
not it's just to say, it doesn't seem like it's
about safety. It doesn't even really seem like it's about
enforcing it. It just seems like the message needs to
be part of our big social pushback is there should
not be trans people feeling comfortable. And that was the

(31:41):
message they wanted out there. And then they were like
fuck it that, like we got that one day of
press out of that, and you know, walk right by
you when you go to the bathroom and won't say
a fucking word too.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Right, because it never mattered to them. It never mattered
in the first place, because they are not about governing
nor passing real laws that matter.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Right, It's crazy we've let these people be in charge though.
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But and of course snuck the rule in. Wasn't an
individual rule, wasn't anything they voted all. It was like
in the other in all the rules and just like
oh and this.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
One was in there too. Let's see, we got two more.
I'll do two more. I'll do two more.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
New French guidelines showed doctors overwhelmingly support gender firming care.
The medical guidelines contradict numerous conclusions from the UK's infamous
Cast review. Medical professionals in France just came out and
strong support of gender firm and care for transgender miners.
According to independent trans journalists Aaron Reid, the French Society
of Pediatric, Pediatric, indo Chronology and Diabetology released a set

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of guidelines that could be considered the first consensus to
come out of France for gender firming care. The guidelines
were thoroughly conducted. Each section of the review is broken
up into separate categories evaluated by smaller groups of study
authors who incorporated input from mixt eternal experts. The final
guidelines were also refined by broader group of authors. The
authors in the studies and the report unequivocally support gender

(33:08):
firm and care, backing puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy
for transminders. The approach to care, they succeed suggest is
individualized and evidence based, promoting the right of trans youth
to explore their gender identity and find where they fit
in on their own time. By allowing youth to transition early,
some elect to skip future surgeries entirely the Guidelines strongly

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opposed a beloved tactic among anti transactivist dubbed the wait
and see approach, wherein the medical providers render no care
to see if the patient still desires transitional care that
the approach has been like in the conversion therapy. The approach,
also known as gender exploration therapy, is swiftly criticized by
the Guidelines authors, who state that it does not reduce

(33:49):
psychological distress, and it increases the risk of committing suicide.
It can affect psycho effective and cognitive development.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Right, Like they go, Hey, the doctors is going, I holde.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Our job is to take care of all our patients,
and y'all keep doing this function and passing these crazy
as laws. But like we're the one that kind of
have to deal with the repercussions of that.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And also this is France, so I don't even know
if their laws are as anti transit is ours, you know,
like maybe they're just not.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Maybe they don't have.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
A Republican Party version over there that is on that
is extremely popular and anti and decide to make trans
people the focal point of their electoral politics. So maybe
if you if you live in a world where that's
not happening. It's not controversial for doctors to be like,
this is not the big deal. People that that that

(34:40):
it would seem somewhere else, right, We're just doing what
is best for our patients.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
And I love today site.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
In this article, they cite that a study in September
that was published that shows that anti trans laws increase
the likelihood of suicide by overs of seventy two percent,
suggesting that attempts to implementing these bands on care and
advocacy for the wait and see approach are only harming
transmitting their individuals. And this is something that every single

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story we talk about that involves trans people cannot be
separated from that fact. And I know it sounds hyperbolic,
but I truly can't think of it another way. But essentially, Republicans, Conservatives,
people that are anti trans knowing the psychological effects of

(35:34):
these laws and this rhetoric, and knowing that it is
going to cause people to, you know, to attempt suicide
or die by suicide. The fact that you would even
continue to be so vocal and strong about it, it

(35:55):
feels like a thing you like, you're either okay with
it or you want agreed because I can't imagine there's
another way. And it's the the kids are telling you this,
it's the individuals. So I don't care. This isn't about you.
Their body is not about you. No, it's not you know,
but and and and it.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Would be interesting to see it.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Maybe will never see it because but it would be
interesting if there was ever a study of just even
how many trans athletes are there compared to trans people,
you know what I mean, like like because they always
make it seem like it's some type of get over,
like a boy wasn't good at basketball, so he cut
his penis off and started dunking on women. It's like,
I don't think that's how that works.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
And something you said in this article that was really
really important. They would say, the earlier you catch it
objects out, the less likely they are to have these
surgeries that they keep claiming it.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Everybody gets right.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, the earlier you, the earlier you support them through
gender fir me medical providers. But yeah, it's just anyway,
not not surprised on that, but shout out to France
though that sounds dope, you know. So I did say

(37:10):
two more stories, but actually there's not as two more.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Community shows LGBTQ plus love.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
After Piece of Real refuses to cater a same sex
marriage at a wedding, a piece Aria in Red Back,
Tennessee has announced social media won't cater same sex weddings
because doing so a violate the business owners' personal beliefs.
Its announcement was spurred by a screenshot of a tax
exchange between an unknown person and the pizzer Rea Quartelle

(37:36):
that's the name of it. It was posted on Reddit.
The person asked the Piece of Rea if they could
confirm rumors that had recently refused to cater a same
sex wedding.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
The business road, we do not cater same sex weddings.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Many of the over thirteen hundred comments on Ready to
express disappointment of players, not the patureon's business. The business
later posted a public statement on Facebook page of clan
that it had made the difficult decision not to cater
the wedding due to our personal beliefs.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
This comes from a place with decision.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
It wasn't difficult for you to make the decision.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Stop lying. Yeah, that's the AI right now.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Uh, this belief comes from a place of personal conviction,
and we know it's not shared by everyone, and it
is one we hold without judgment towards others, which sounds impossible.
We that's like saying we don't serve black people, but
we're not judging right. Listen, some people serve black people,
some don't. We're just saying that we're not judging you

(38:27):
for serving them, So why are you judging us for
not right, adding that it didn't intend for us decision
to harm anyone, apologize for the pain this has caused
people or been part of our community.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, it's like just just be like, fuck them. You
don't want to say that, though, say what your chest.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
They also said the business has been privileged to serve
people from all walks of life with open arms and
genuine care.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
It also asks people.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
To extend grace and treat each other with dignity and love,
even though we may not always agree, adding we hope
you will give us the chance to continue showing love
to you when you come through our doors. Then they
turned off the comments because they didn't really want no.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Love from They.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Didn't want to hear it. They want to convention. That's
what I'm saying that your whole statement.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Is YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA, because you
because you could have let them have it and you'd
have been fine, but for the fact that you said something.
You were making the statement and like I say, y'all,
y'all want to make these decisions, but you don't want
to do with the backlash of people going, I don't
like the decision that you made.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So then the book and cover.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
A local bookstore wrote on Facebook that it's no longer
allowing the piece of Reda to operate a part time
food truck on this property. The bookstore wrote, it is
vitally important to us that it's clear we treasure and
respect the queer members of our community and celebrate the
rights and love that they carry. They also added that
as customers not use his physical or digital spaces commenting
on the matter. In a twenty fifteen Tennessee law passed

(39:53):
after the US Supreme Court legalized same sex marriage, it
says for bids local governments from penalizing any bit and some
individuals that refused service based on profoundly held believes So
but yeah, shout out to the bookstore and the other
people in the community that called out that piece of real.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Last story.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So Donald Trump went to church and the pews didn't
turn on fire him and JD.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Vans, but they went to church.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
In this Episcopalian Bishop maryon Edgar bud I think it's
b U D d E who she publicly urged him
to have mercy on lgbt Q plus people and immigrants
at a prayer service for his inauguration. Shout out to
real bravery, Shout out to real work, because I juxtapposed

(40:52):
her against that uh crypto coom from yesterday, and and
how he was tap danceing and knowing this man what
he really represents, right, and he set up there and
and and bastardized Martin Luther King's speech. And this is
real bravery to say to sit to know that this person,

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the president, is gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
And in a world where people like Steven A.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Smith justify everything by he's in the office of president.
So you need to respect him regardless if he respects
the American people or respects you individually or not. You
just need to sit back and and shut the fuck
up and keep the playing going.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well. Uh, she said, Nah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Gonna get a speech and y'all need to have mercy
y'all need to be understanding of immigrants and LGBTQ people
and people that are very nervous about what y'all gonna do. So,
of course he responded in conn and said, you know what,
You're right, I'm going to be merciful and thank.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
You for No.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Of course he didn't do that care he said he
caught her. He went to truth social called her a
radical far left, hard Trump hater and nasty, which is
what he always says about women.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Does he love that one?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Don't? Then he demanded an apology.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Also, Mike Collins, a representative from Georgia, also asked for
her to be deported, even though she's a US citizen
born in New Jersey, because deportation is not just something
they say about the.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Brown people that are immigrants.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Got right, Deportation is there. Get the fuck out of
the country. If you're not down with this white supremacy, we.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Fit in and roll through, Yes, sir, Yes.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
She asked him to find compassion, saying, in the name
of our God, I asked you to have mercy upon
the people in our country who are scared now. They
are gay, lesbian, transgender children, and Democratic, Republican and independent.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Families, some who fit for their lives.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
She's also brought up immigrants, saying they're not rapists, but
instead hard workers who do much of the labor before
that the Americans depend on. I ask you to have mercy,
mister President, on those in our community whose children fear
that their parents will be taken away, and that you
help those that are fleeing war zones of persecution in
their own lands to find compassion and welcome here. Trump

(43:08):
looked visibly uncomfortable during her speech, because that's another thing.
A lot of people, a lot people ascribe like a
level of toughness and shit to this dude, But a
lot of that is really just on the fact that
people are not saying it to his face. They're not
keeping that same energy. So he's allowed to have this

(43:31):
fake like veneer of like, listen, I'm a boss, I
got it all together, but someone actually said some shit
to his face and suddenly it ain't too comfortable in
the room for him. This is the speech, and.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
As you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the
providential hand.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Oh let me know in the chat if y'all can't
hear this, or y'all are getting like a super echo
or something.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Just let me know of a loving God.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
In the name of our God, I ask you to
have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared. Now.
There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican
and independent families, some who fear for their lives. And

(44:30):
the people the people who pick our crops and clean
our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat
packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants,
and work the night shifts in hospitals. They they may
not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the

(44:52):
vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes
and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our
churches and mosques, synagogues, wara and temples.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
And of course stone faces from Milania. JD. Vass looks annoyed.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
He's looking around like y'all buy y'all, can y'all believe
this shit?

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Meanwhile, he got a brown air his wife that they
don't call it, all types of names and axvill hyats
to be deported.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, I think it's so interesting too, because the oh okay,
all right, well I'm off of it now. I'm sorry,
but yeah, I think it's so interesting because obviously.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
The amount of.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
This is now falling on deaf ears. We allow these
people to be in power, and they told us what
they were going to do, and this is now the
only weapon that people have is to plead for their
mercy and humanity and morality, and they have none. They
have not expressed that they would ever do that. I

(46:03):
don't even know. I just think people just did not
fundamentally understand how fucking serious this is. Like this ship
has barely even started. It's gonna just get work. So
you know, of course he's attacking her, and of course
he's they want her deported, and he needs an apology.

(46:26):
It sounds insane to me that a person that can
have the policies he's going to be having and enforcing
on women and LGBTQ people and immigrants is the one
who needs the apology. But this is also the fundamental
touchstone of the conservative movement right now, which is we're

(46:47):
the victims freedom oppressing you as our freedom of speech,
and if you push back on that, whether it's for
your own humanity or someone else, you're a packing me
and you don't have freedom of speech.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
You need to be deported out the country.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
The government needs to be weaponized against you. You know,
it's it's really uh, it's really insane. But yeah, so yeah,
that's the those those that's lgbt Q news. I wish
I had something better than ended off.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
But that's right. Uh, let's see what else we got here.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Matter of fact, I'll play a little music. We'll go
to another section. We'll come right back.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Guys. How about this? All right, let's talk about Drake

(48:08):
is what Mills happened?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Not really, I just thought this clip was funny. CBS
Morning News was talking about Drake and the news. Yeah,
like the white people there's white people news.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Now. I didn't even realize it got this big, right, but.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
Given crash out guys. But you know, from a from
a legal perspective, it's an interesting move on Drake's part. Notably,
he's not suing Kendrick Lamar, right, He's sewing universal, which
reps both of these artists.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Why would he do that? Yeah, So it's interesting.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
It seems like a failed attempt sort of not to
look petty, not to look like he's suing the artist
that just you know, annihilated him.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
In this rap bottle.

Speaker 8 (48:49):
Let's just let's just call it for what it is.
That song as a banger, right, but.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Why does it sound so much worse coming from a
white lady who's not code switching you.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
No, she's like that, she was like that was my
bop this summer. Right, yeah, I was jamming.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
With the girls.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Listen, I believe Buddy is crashing out and it's not
looking too well. Okay, he said he's not being petty.
They can't hear us, Oh, they can't hear us.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I can't hear you can't, Okay, all right, give me
a second.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Everybody can. Well, how can some people hear?

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Some people can't?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
What the hell is happening? Your volume on the mic
is off? Okay?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Well I'm back Jesus Christ, all right, but y'all could
hear the clip?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yes? All right?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
All right, man, this crowd has happened some issues lately.
All right, but yeah, I'll go back there.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
He's not suing Kendrick Lamar, right, He's sewing universal, which
wraps both of these artists.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Why would he do that?

Speaker 8 (49:48):
Yeah, So it's interesting. It seems like a failed attempt
sort of not to look petty, not to look like
he's suing the artists that just you know, annihilated him
in this wrap bottle. Let's just let's just call it
for what it is. That song is a banger, right,
But so you know the the idea.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I mean, come on, guys, no cap this really, that's
what I mean. Listen, Buddy was acting scary.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
I'm dummers, but look, legally speaking, you know, universe, the
ideas that Universal has been representing Drake for many, many years.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
That sorry, hydron Button, I mean, did that giving crash out?
Guys over a bill?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I didn't even realize she said at the beginning, it's
giving crash out. Don't let me find out this baking
be over here? Uh hanging out with us?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Ye, go back a little further.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
But yeah, all right, but yeah he was, Oh my god,
it's giving crash out. Okay, guys, I guess Drake really
is not like us, as Kendrick did say.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
False, they wouldn't be wrapping him of years that they
know these allegations are false. They wouldn't be rapping him otherwise.
And the fact that they push this distribution so much.
The song has been streamed on Spotify over a billion times.
They've really been backing Kendrick Lamar on this one. Look,
it's it's unique in this in this industry. I think

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it's sort of poetic justice. The song not like us.
I mean a lot of people in the community are saying,
you know, this is not how you deal with hip
hop rap battle beef. You go in the studio, you
lay down some tracks. This is not what what Drake
is doing on legal rounds.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
I think he's on pretty shaky legal grounds. There's this
concept of sort of informed consent. It's you know, when
you get into rap battles, you would expect that there's
going to be some uh, you know, back and forth.
And there is also First Amendment free speech rights implicated here.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Damn, when the white lady is a white lady, does
she understands? When she understands? Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
And also, news people are so funny to me because
I think people I know people that work in news,
and it's so funny because they're human beings.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
They're just like the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
But they get on that camera, that job, and they
gotta do what they gotta do. So I don't know
what her personal life is like. She really might be
the Kendrick Lamar staying and all this shit. But she
get on that clock and it's listen, guys, he is
crashing out.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Okay, it is going to be a very interesting time
for Drake.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Like, but I don't know if she's just like picked
that up from social media or if like she really
just like if she kind of knows some of the recipes,
you know, although I feel like everyone's become an expert
on the beef at this point. It's everywhere. But yeah,
when she hit that, when she hit that the community,

(52:56):
I was like, let me find out how you know
what the community? You said that with some authority, and
she didn't. And she didn't say our community.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
She didn't say our community. She didn't say I was
a part of them. It was a silent black in
that community was like.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I've been looking and daven to please like I did.
This is this is what the black's been saying.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Perhaps this is said.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Perhaps this is what the community means when they say
she's he's not like us.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
They were like, that is what we mean. But how
did you know?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
But yeah, I thought that was just like a cute
little video that's keeping it hip hop method man. Police
were seeking the question method man over alleged assault. Apparently
the rumor is because I don't know how much this
is true and isn't, but the rumor was he was
working out in Crunch Fitness because you know, he's always

(53:51):
getting his work out on, and a twenty eight year
old man found a complaint accused him of assault at
this gym. It's that Allen or Salon. Allen, twenty eight
year old got beat up about fifty three year old man.
They said he punched him seven times METHA. Man's real
name is Clifford Smith. They got into an argument at

(54:12):
Crunch Fitness location and it was around four pm. The
alleged victim was in a relationship with the rappers daughter
more than a decade ago. No charges have been fouled,
even though that I guess somehow the police got involved.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
The rappers agent did not.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Immediately answer request for comment and videos posted the Meta
Man's Facebook page. Jim Ratt regularly shares video of himself
working out of Crunch Fitness. What I think is interesting
here on a couple levels. The fun Obviously, I can
do the funny stuff first, if y'all would like to
do If would, we're gonna do fun or serious first, Well,

(54:52):
it's up to you care you do fun first, all right.
The funny part is, of course, this sounds like an
on site.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You know. When I first heard this, I am not
even gonna lie. I was like, what did that? He's
a grown man, but I was say, what that boy do.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Child?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Because ten years ago he used to day metha man's daughter,
allegedly that would make him eighteen at the time, and
that just feels like ten years ago methan man told
that boy whatever he did to his daughter, He said,
if I ever see your.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Ass again, it's on site. And ten years were.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
For time was not enough time to change any of that.
It was time to bring the pain.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
He was like, I meant what I said, son.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Okay, let me introduce I fucking I'll fucking tie you
up and put you hit you with rusty nails or
whatever they said on that song. But yeah, I you know,
I guess some people they say when they go low,
he says, how high?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
And then he whooped your ass?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
So yeah, he whooped this dude's ass punched them seven
times for the number of complete shout out to the
guys and the Earth's but he punched them seven times?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Who's counting? Was seven times part of it too? Did
he say?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And if I ever see you again, it's on site,
I'm gonna punch you seven times and no more, no less.
And he hit my man seven times. But yeah, so
so that's what happened with that. But then methad Man
came out later and said he categorically denis assaulting his
daughter's ex at the gym, say it never happened.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
So I don't know if it happened. And this he's now.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Lying and saying it didn't happen because no one seemed
to not be on his side. But obviously there's gotta
be some legal repercussions if he did say yeah, I
did do it. But also a categorical denial is strong,
like it's no like you' method man. You sure it's
not no video?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Was it? Like it's not gonna be some CCTV footage
of the kid, like at least coming into the gym
and you being in there, or like a category coedondanw
feels like maybe he didn't do this shit, maybe the
dude try to set him up. I don't know, you
never know the police also confirmed. There's no arrest reports
that exists for the alleged incident. The Post article suggests

(57:25):
the altercation involved uh Smith and Patrick Sequoia Soequoya, who's
an alleged ex boyfriend of Method Man's daughter, Cheyenne Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
They said that he did he filed a report.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
The Post claim Sequoia filed a report with the police,
telling officials he experienced facial pain and dizziness following the incident,
but declined medical treatment at the scene. Despite these claims,
no official action or evidence supports the accusation. So you know,
I this could also be something where it's a false

(58:00):
accusation from someone that's trying to like harass his daughter
or harassed Method Man or something like that.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Like I know, because people are crazy nowadays.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, it's such an interesting like I don't know, most
of the gyms have some forms of recording, like like
something that would have picked it.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Everybody would have fucking cell phone and method Mad somebody
would have recorded the interaction.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Right, It's it doesn't add up.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying that it's
wild and nobody ain't. Nobody posted no recording of this incident.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody in the gym was like, I
saw method Man, No what hopped on their TikTok yo?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Method Man beat up this kid?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I was at the gym, right, It's just such an
interesting thing if if it happened. But you know, at
least's daughter knows that he'll be there for her. Yes
he will, Okay, show when you need them. But uh yeah,
I guess they got found out what it's like to
be shadow boxing.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Mm hmmm. I could do all these I can do
a lot of these.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Guys all but we don't have time to keep doing
all this all day. Guy, just move on to the
next one. Keeping a hip hop buster the rhymes. Okay,
he was busted in Brooklyn for assault.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
What is happening today? They bringing back death Jim Vendetta.
I don't understand he.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I guess he put his hands where the black eyes
couldn't see because all.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
These people own enough ARP. What's happening here, right?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I mean, I'm glad to see that these rap legends
aren't good enough shape to be handing out ass whippers
at day time at that age.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
But that's showing them, don't run up on me. Yeah,
don't run up on me. He did say he would
break your neck, but I was not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I was thinking it was just a figurative manner speech.
The Brooklyn bred artist whose real name is Trevor George
Smith Junior, which I would have I would have never
guessed in a million years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Trevor George Smith Jr. Is Buster Rhymes. He got into
an argument with his fifty year old.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Assistant near the corner of J Street and Front Street.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
That's definitely that's definitely New York somewhere, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You put him on Front Street? Literally, yes, he did.
Yeah like that. Yeah, literally put this man on on
Front Street. I just hope it wasn't a split star.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I just hope that's not the assistant what we're talking about,
because I know he's his hype man, but and his cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
But I just hope that it wasn't spliff because that
that's his man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
But yeah, it was ten fifteen am, just an early
morning beat down, breakfast time. As the two men argued
rhymes for the two repeatedly punched the man to face
numerous times. Meddix took the assistant to Woodhall Hospital to
be treated for swelling to the left side of his face.
He was charged with assault in the third degree. I

(01:01:15):
wanted he was punched him. He's like, there's only four
punches left. Oh shit, Like, uh, I told you I
was gonna touch it. What was the song he did
with Jenna Jackson? Now now I'm drawing the blank son

(01:01:36):
of a bitch. I wonder if he was punching them
and the dude was like stop and he was like, no,
I'm gonna give you some more.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
You are huh oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Your niggas want to talk shit, give him some more?
Uh oh man. But uh yeah, he probably came out
of like a dungeon dragon. Yeah, I bet he did.
Somebody to say, what's this going to be? That's what
That's what Buss said. That's what Bus said to him, said,

(01:02:10):
what's it gonna be?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
If?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
But he was like, uh, you want me saying Janet Park,
what do you mean? Slap? H got some flavor in
his ear remix upside his head. Anyway, Busta got the victory.
Uh oh man. It's too easy. It's not for kids.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Uh But yeah, man, I hate to hate to see
all these rappers, uh, you know, going through it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
But speaking of rap hip hop, keeping it hip hop
and hip hop, Cardi B.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Calls out Offset for refusing to buy that kids Christmas
gifts despite her.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Uh so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
The rapper hopped on Twitter spaces for her latest rent
the Man in that the Migo Start finalized a divorce,
allowing the most to to move on. You're gonna stop
fucking playing with me, and you're gonna sign these fucking
divorce papers. What hurts me, though, is when the motherfuckers
try to be spiteful toward my kids. That shit really
be pissing, fucking pissing me the fuck off, she shouted.

(01:03:15):
The Bronx star went on, I went off on the house.
She upliftd that Offset when he was down, only for
him to allegedly tell her you wasn't enough because you
never listened.

Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
She stated that while she didn't want to call out
her ex again publicly, she could teue he continued to
bother her while she was at peace. I don't like
when I'm at peace, niggas want to call me private
over and over and over and ever over and then
do little shit behind the scenes to piss me off.
She also suggests that Offset refuses to accept the divorce
and will not work out visitation agreement. According to her,

(01:03:47):
he is being spiteful to the three children by refusing
to give him Christmas gifts while getting presents for his
other children.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
You just called your daughter for the first time this year.
You're a new born.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
You love your kids so much, and you ain't bought
them shit for Christmas. But you came to New York
to buy your other kids gifts. But you didn't buy
my kids shit on purpose to spite me. So all right,
care thoughts, Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
That's their business. Yeah, And my thing.

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
This goes to show you that when it comes to this,
money has nothing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
With with the drama.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I sometimes I think people think that money quote unquote
fixes everything. It does not fix everything, because people are
gonna be people and trifle is gonna be trifling. And
the thing is, you know, we we we're we're consumers
of her, so we're gonna consume anything that she puts
out there and not trying funny. We don't care if
her life literally falls apart. We actually don't care nothing

(01:04:47):
about her kids or offset.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
You know what's funny is I see a lot of
people fighting about this online and because it is a
gender war type thing and so people are still participating
in that part of it to be like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Like yeah, man, ain't shit or whatever. You know, you
shouldn't have left them bitch or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I just think it's interesting because Carti has always shared
so much of herself with her audience.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
That's really how she got famous is she was all
love and hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
But it was really she was like at the burgeoning
forefront of being an artist who was always on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Live and shit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
Yeah, she was kind of the forefront of that, yes,
and people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Started loving her more for like being an accessible person
than I think even her art. And then she surprised
everybody when she dropped that bangor Ass album and she
still hasn't dropped the follow up. But the thing is,
when we got introduced to Carti, she was always on

(01:05:48):
some struggle loves.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
She she was dating a dude in prison at the time.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
She was blowing up, remember that, And when she first
started loving hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yep, and he was like a dude in prison who
was gonna be in prison forever. Like it wasn't some
like well I'll be home soon. It was like some like,
what the fuck Cardi, that's a wild decision. And then
of course you know she's been very open. She was
a stripper, she was she talked about drugging men and
taking their money. She's broken up with Offset, gotten back

(01:06:17):
with him several times. Each time runs to tell the
audience what's going on in their personal lives. I would
just say I and I've always thought this, and I
always will think this. How much of an example of
like the accessibility of social media and accessibility to her,

(01:06:39):
how much of that has like how much of I
guess what do you call it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
A case study? Would she be? Because she like, none
of this has ever been our.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Business, and there's nothing the people on Twitter spaces can't
even do for her her family, Like, first of all,
y'all are rich. These are rich people problems, So like,
unless you're gonna put up a gofund me to get
your kids on Christmas presents, which everybody's gonna roundly be
like what, no, you handle that? You so clearly it's

(01:07:12):
not a monetary thing. You want to you're angry and
you want to shame him or something, but people don't
really care about this, And I think what it is
kind of sad is that it means she's got rabbit ears,
and she's leaning into the fact that there are people
online because I see people online that try to like
make these you know, they're they're doing gender wars, so

(01:07:32):
they're doing they're like this, see this is what's wrong
with these black men or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
And I'm like, I'm not saying you're wrong or right.
I actually don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I just think it's interesting that she thought I'm gonna
run to y'all, right, because what I think is always
concerning is when you empower these people online by making
them feel like they're a part of something, that they're
actually not right because these people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Are not beholden to you. They're not responsible for you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
They are not They say her ful things, and we've
watched her crash out online.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
We've seen her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Crying, we've seen her yelling at her fans and stuff.
But these motherfuckers aren't real. They're not coming to your house.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
They don't know you. They're just giving opinions. They're not
invested in you as a human being. They wouldn't talk
to someone they knew for real, like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
That, right, And in second something else happens, they'll move
on and if you heard the harm or something happens,
they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Be like pole thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
We look out for your strong friends and go on
to whatever the next thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
And if you truly care, if someone truly cares about you,
which I'm sure she has people her life that do,
I guarantee you those are the ones that reach out.
When they see you on Twitter space, they'll be like, Hey,
what you doing, Don't do that, don't don't go on
live these these motherfuckers can't help you, Like take the
man in the courter, don't take on the court right,
But like this Twitter spaceship is we is weird for

(01:08:51):
everyone involved.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
That's what I think about before.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Like I won't even get into the right and wrongs
of it because I don't I literally don't know the
inner workings of their relationship. And also I find they're
very funny how people can hop on this shit and
then when they get back together because y'all were so
invested in them breaking up, it's like y'all get mad
at her, right, But the truth of the matter is,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Fucking know these niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I don't remember when there were people like it's abusive,
that he bought her flowers and showed up at her concert.
And I'm like, and these niggas gonna get back together
because I don't fucking know them like it? Like what,
I've been surprised. She said it was abusive, and I
don't agree with it, and I don't like it. It's manipulative.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
I wouldn't have been surprised, But would I be surprised?
She was like, and it worked and we back together.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I wasn't surprised for that shit either, because, like the
we're attributing some moral values to them that we don't
even know if they share, right, And then the last thing,
of course, being that she's she's empowering the internet by
treating it like it's real, treating these people like real.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
So but yeah, you know, good luck to them, good
luck to you all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
And you know, because I didn't grow up on the
internet like that, I am still of a Some shit
is for me, like for me and mine is not
for the public consumption.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
It's just not. Yeah, I mean, I feel like everyone
feels that way for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
But the internet is just a convenient place to go
to and it only takes like a second of no
discipline or something to share something. But I just think
what Cardi is a consistent through line. She has been
over sharing quote unquote for eight years now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah, And the thing is nobody is above it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Because the trick of the Internet is that it's so quick,
it's so convenient, it's always there, and it tricks your
mind into thinking that it is a place where you
can literally tell everybody everything and everybody would agree with
you all of the time, even though you know this
statement is not true.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
It tricks you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
So, you know, because I used to post and share,
and then I had to think about, Okay, is this
really worth sharing? What do all like you literally have
to I don't know about anybody. I had to have
a conversation with myself and what to share, what not
to share. So nobody is above over sharing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I also think psychologically, subconsciously, there's also part of people
that want to argue, and I think it's in all
of us. I don't think. I don't think I am
an exception. I don't think your exception. But there's a
part of us that when we present something, you have
to accept that the place you're presenting it at is

(01:11:43):
a place where people invite themselves to disagree. And so
when it's a movie, it's not as personal, it doesn't hurt.
But when it's your marriage, maybe you don't want to
share that. This is the same place that you can't say, man,
I love a different world without it might not be everybody,

(01:12:04):
but without someone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Showing up uninvited and going.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
So you okay with Bill Cosby being a rapist or
whatever it is that's gonna make it inflammatory and get
you going down the wrong path. Okay, that's just you
saying you like a TV show, imagine you sharing your
marriage's business right like like like like things that are
close to the heart, and people that eat that ship
up be the same people that they wouldn't share that

(01:12:30):
ship they would not you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Like it's all entertainment and where nothing's off limits. I've
been reading this book lately.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Uh what was the name of this book? Neil Postman
wrote it fuck blank, So I read lately. But anyway,
I've been reading this book. I think it's kind of
amusing ourselves to death. That's that is the name.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
That is the name.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
So yeah, I've been reading this book and it's it's
more about like TV and because I think he wrote
this in the eighties, and so it's like, how did
we get from the written language, long form, thoughtful discussion
to like TV as a as the medium of the

(01:13:16):
of his time and how it had changed us and
we had lost some things and he was not here
to write the book about the Internet and social media.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
But I would say TV got worse than even when
he was alive when he wrote itself, right, And then
now the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Social media has taken TV, and like like if like
if if pictures and if pictures were like you know,
like say the written word was a was a match
and pictures was like a campfire, and like radio was

(01:13:59):
a stove, and then like TV was like uh you know,
like like I don't know, like like the first real.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah, it was like a grip.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Then like the Internet has just been like the flaming.
It's just been like a forest fire. It's like, yes,
it's like it is there is no control and what
and what is capable of being expressed on the Internet
is not at least in the way that social media

(01:14:31):
has determined it. I keep saying Internet when I mean
social media. What is capable of being expressed on social
media is much less effect, Like it's less thoughtful and
nuanced and balanced and long form than even like TV,
and TV was insufficient, like TV gave us Reagan, TV

(01:14:53):
gave like TV gave us some fucked up things as well,
But social media, I think has given us something even
more fucked up because you know, it's even quicker, Like
we're talking vines used to be like six seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
You know, we're talking tiktoks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
We like a minute, we're talking you know, deregulation, we're
talking psyops and all this stuff that's just like like
that is honestly shaping our society.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
And so we're like cooked at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
And so when you have someone like Cardi, she's a
perfect example of like the like social media as consumer
of it and as person being consumed by it, right, right,
And so I and I think it's why people are.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Like, listen to us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
We have a long form show, so we can have
these longer thoughts, and it's normally a little bit off track.
It's a little bit different than what you're gonna hear
most places. But yeah, like I don't find the discussion
of is she right or wrong? Or it's offset a
good or bad dad. I don't even find that to
be nearly interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
That's not valuable.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I find the idea of putting something so personal out
to be publicly legislated amongst a bunch of people who
are literally vultureus here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
To consume you to be dangerous. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
And also the thing what's so wild about the internet,
there are a lot of people that share things online
and on the Internet that they wouldn't even share in
their quote unquote real lives, you know, to their family
members and their friends, Like you wouldn't tell the like
some of the stuff that people share online, you wouldn't
tell a little if you had to look somebody in
their eye and complete stranger, you would not share these

(01:16:35):
same things. And so that's why I'm like, because of
the barrier and the easiness of it, you don't have
to feel the pressure of the insecurities and all these
things that kind of happen when you have to talk
to somebody face to face. And also when you talked
about that progression from the match to the forest fire,
When you go through that, everything's get shorter. Intensive spans

(01:16:57):
get shorter, the consumption of it gets bicker and faster
is more of it, And then that process, understanding decreases,
empathy increases, sympathy and decrease like like like these things decrease,
like because when you read something, somebody can go in
depth in their words to get you to understand.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Something and a certain way.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
And when you move it on TV, sometimes you can
still get these things across. Might not be as as
good or as detailed as a book, but you can
still get these things across when you start moving it
to these quicker and shorter versions and almost deformed versions
of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
For a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
People, it's like instead of getting a whole sentence or paragraph,
you just getting the period, You just getting to do
just getting a comma. A lot of times things get
lost in translation because the thing about a forest fire,
it consumes everything and it does not care what it burns.
So if you happen to be in the middle of
the forest fire and the forest fire decides to go
your direction, it is going to burn you and not

(01:17:59):
care about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Your Yeah, and our brains do this thing of trying
to rationalize stuff, so you know, that's why you end
up with idioms like a picture's worth a thousand words,
but it's really not. A picture is actually much much
less descriptive and much less in context than a thousand words.

(01:18:20):
Meaning I can show you a picture of Donald Trump
raising his fist with a bloody ear, and that tells
you a story that is not the story of what happened. Yes,
it's right, So a picture is not really worth a
thousand words. But now we don't have a thousand words.
We rarely read a thousand words in a year, not

(01:18:42):
in a year. No, I'm saying what I'm saying. We
rarely read a thousand words, meaning we read a headline,
We don't read an article. True, we read a tweet,
and the tweet has a character limit. We read like
we don't even take time for the thousand words. Like
thousand words pretty much dead now, Like you know, even

(01:19:05):
like and I'm not knocking listening to audiobooks, but even
the audiobook you're listening to it, you're not reading a
thousand words, even though I think that's better than you know,
going on TikTok, like I have people I know people
who will go on TikTok, watch a video and present
it as like in the way that you would present
a factually based, uh fact checked news report. Like I

(01:19:28):
saw a person in their car talking to the camera
and you know what that they were saying this and
I'm not this is not a knock on that I'm saying.
That is what we have been reduced to is that
there was a time where we would easily, out of
hand dismiss that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Type of source.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
We'd be like, what are fact, That's just a person talking.
We don't even fucking know them, like we don't know
their credentials anything. And now that is actually a source
of information.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Joe Rogan and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
His musings on his podcast is a mainstream media platform,
a man who, by his own admission, doesn't know shit,
and yet many people have based their politics off him.
Many people have based their podcast format off of his format. Yep,
many people have aligned with his with his politics and

(01:20:21):
stuff this like we're fucking cooked. And so when you
see something like, you know, Cardi's sharing this, it just
reminds me how fucking cooked we are. Where I'm just
like you're you're you're basically walking into a forest fire
with gasoline and being like, hey, guys, uh, I want
to talk about my marriage, Like nothing good is gonna

(01:20:42):
come in this, but yeah, I find that to be interesting.
And then I didn't drop the thread. Guys, I told
you I was gonna come back to it, keeping the
hip hop the not fun version of the method Man story.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Okay, Right, so everyone I know, And maybe it's because
I'm not hacked. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm
too much of a fucking impath. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
It could be a bunch of shit, but everybody is
like method Man beat up that boy for something he
did to his daughter. Ha ha ha, that's why you
don't fuck with metha Man or whatever. That's why you
don't fuck with his daughter or whatever. Right, And I
don't A was thinking, was like, I wonder what method

(01:21:29):
Man would say. Now he said he didn't even do
the shit. So if the shit didn't even happen, then
I don't even really understand what There's nothing really to
celebrate if it didn't happen, it's just right. It's like,
it's this person deranged. Why are they fucking making it
up about metha Man? And if it did happen, but
it's hush hush and da da da. I still have
to wonder what he thinks, because I actually think the

(01:21:51):
capacity and the infliction of violence on people leaves a
mark on you too. It is not simply in the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Ways that we glorify or worship violence.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
It is not always that. And I say that because
methad Man is also super huge on his mental health advocacy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Yes he is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Like he's talked about his demons that he struggled with.
I would love to hear him talk about if this
had happened. I don't you know he's saying it in that,
but I would have loved to know what did happen
that brought him out of his place and that if
his whatever, he's that place he was at where he
was on some like listen, man, we older, we black men.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
I had to go to therapy. I'm dealing with this,
this and the other.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
I used to be angry, I used to be lashing
out of people. I realized I was depressed. I realized
I had insecurity. I didn't even know that shit. Luckily
I got old enough to do it. So this ain't funny.
This is not me doing puns off of his fucking song.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Titles and shit. But it's something I thought about and
both and most importantly, the most important part of this
is not me pat myself on the back.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
For thinking about it. I mean, you know, I don't
think it's that. I really don't think the point I'm
making is that deep. The deeper point to me is
how many people reject what I just said as even
a thing to think about.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Yep, because a lot of consider it. They don't because
we do not want.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
We don't want these people to be fully formed, three
dimensional people. We like the idea of method man fifty
eight beating up a fifty three beating up a twenty
eight year old more than we liked the idea of
I think his name is Clifford Smith more than we
like the idea of Clifford and going what happened? Because

(01:23:46):
if this is something if I came home from the
YMCA and told you I beat up somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Today, I would have some real concerns.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
You would have concerns to be like, what was the
chain of events that allowed that to happen? Now, Look,
maybe I can explain it in a way to make
you go, I just got whoop niggas, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
I'm not saying it's impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Right, but the fact that we that there's so few
people that went, damn, something must have happened, like something
and what.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Does that mean? Is he okay? Is he just like
is he cool with that? Is he walking around like, yeah,
I beat up twenty eight year old today?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
That that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
And that that would require more and people don't want
to give more. And the biggest part I've realized this,
particularly when it comes online, people don't like party poopis
and people don't want you sucking up the party. They go,
we are partying. Don't come over here throwing water in here,
don't come over here, tell us to turn our music down.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Like, but that's why these jokes. But that's why I
saved it for here, because I can do both. Yeah,
I mean I did the joke, so you know, I
hopefully people got felt that right, But you know, I
can do both, which is kind of like I do wonder.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
You know, it's the Cardi thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Everyone else that plays that is gonna end up either
yelling at her for like being with this raggedy ass
man and you got these struggle relationships, or yelling at
him because you're a bad father and fuck you. Very
few people are gonna be like, what about the level
of even sharing this? And this has been a repeated pattern,
and what is it doing to her, What is it

(01:25:13):
doing to her kids? What's it doing their relationship? Right? Like,
those are the questions I think that are actually worth
thinking about because those questions I think we all can
relate to in that we're all out here smoking this,
these cigarettes that are social.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Media, We're all out here, We're all doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
I saw what happened to y'all when TikTok went down.
And I know, y'all, I'm using perjority of it as
a joke, but I saw what happened in the ennery people.
People were sucking dick within fourteen hours, they had them
to cheeseburgers, and they were scratching their neck for some
Donald Trump to turn the spiggerback on, even while knowing

(01:25:54):
it was a stunt, right, And keep in mind he's
supposed to be some of the most savvy, eptical, cynical people,
especially TikTok. They don't believe nothing. Everything conspiracy and they
was just like, turn the fucking crack back on drugs,
stop playing with me. I will swallow the gravy, juggle

(01:26:18):
the balls, like I need this shit.

Speaker 7 (01:26:21):
That that to me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
During the TikTok outage, which was only like twelve hours,
fourteen hours. That was honestly jarring to me. And I
don't think it's because I don't really be on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
TikTok like that. Yeah, for me, I don't think that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
I think if it would have been Twitter, I would
have felt the same way, meaning like, Okay, this is
some type of stunt elon Musk's pulling with Twitter. It'll
probably be back up sooner than later because he ain't
gonna turn off the fossil for himself. And then I
would have just gone out and done shit like I did,
you know when TikTok goes out, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Going to the gym doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
But it really is the opioid, the opiate of the masses,
I guess, and and meaning that we're addicted to it.
You know. I was talking to Bow about it, and uh,
it's like the drugs. I said, the drugs is like crack.
It is stepped on and he said, yeah, he's able
to stepped on, but it's like what stepped on with Fitanel,

(01:27:19):
Like it's like it's more addictive and it's and it
and nobody wants to say.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
There a fiend.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Nobody, Yeah, nobody wanted to be who wants to be
down drugs, right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
But clearly people were losing their fucking minds over this
ship and the amount of conspiracies and things that people had.
It was very telling, you know, people were people are
still like, people still think that they have to sell
TikTok to an American to stay in America, and so

(01:27:48):
they they're going to do it because how can they
give up the American market? But if you look it up,
they've been hit with this ultimatum from other places, including India,
which is a bit bigger market. You might feel like
they're a poorer country, but you gotta remember the job
of TikTok is to sell stuff. Yes, so TikTok is
basically like Amazon, but if Amazon has social media ability

(01:28:12):
on the Amazon App right to in China, TikTok is
for selling shit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
It is not for the social media shit. We use
it for you. And I know we're American, we have
our egos, and we're like that, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
They're like, you're on here, I know we have we're American,
we have our egos, and we're all like, it won't
have no flavor without us. I'm sure people in me
A thought the same fucking thing all I'm saying, and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
You could be completely right. The question is, is TikTok
looking for flavor?

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Do they care about flavor or do they just want
to own their app and make all the fucking money
off of owning their app? Do they want to split
this shit fifty to fifty with the United States? Do
they want to sell it to someone you can't trust,
like an Elon Musk or somebody who's going to take who,
like everyone thinks, because so capitalistic and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
And I'm not saying TikTok isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
What what I'm saying is the people that run TikTok
are also capitalistic, and we're dismissing their motivations with our
and going.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
But and I think it's because we're addicted to it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Yes, So I think we're dismissing their motivations because it's
like the bargaining stage of like addiction, where it's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Like no, no, no, they'll sell it. And then I
still get to have my TikTok and I can scroll
it and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I fall asleep and I can, you know, see all
the funny videos and listen to this and and I'm like,
maybe you're right, and I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I could be completely out the little But.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
If I was the guy who on TikTok and I
was able to convince Donald Trump not to ban it
by just throwing some money into his campaign, and I'm
sitting at his inauguration, Yep. I'm not in it to sell.
I'm in it to control. Yes, I'm in it to
be like this motherfucker's for seal.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I'm buying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I'm not selling buying. This is a buyer market to me.
And the leverage that I have is I actually can
move the fuck on without y'all Like, yep, I can
let the people of.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Your country be mad at you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Look at how quickly and these are a lot of
people who are leftist, people are supposedly smartness right. Look
at how quickly those saying people were like fuck Joe
Biden fucked the Democrats. They handed Donald Trump will win.
He's gonna be the one to get TikTok back. These
motherfuckers saw the statement from TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
That is, they know that the man from.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
TikTok cozy up to Trump. They know this man put
money on Trump's books in his campaign. They know this
is a fake stunt. They know the law did not
go into effect. There was no reason for them to stop.
So you know you're being played, but you are convincing
yourself that the lie is effective.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Because you're fucking addicted, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
It's like what because whatever the drug needs you to
believe is what the fuck the addict's gonna believe. I agreed,
And so it's kind of interesting to see that we
are cooked off of social media and our addiction to that.
And it happened fast ten years, like TV even took
twenty thirty forty years before it got to cooking us.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Each time it sped up, like yeah, each version modified
it itself to be quick, grand faster, quick, grand faster,
U gran faster, agreed, But.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
It's really more potent, more quotent potent. I'm sorry. Okay,
yeah I said poping more pop uh, but not. But
it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
It really is an interesting time and interesting thing to
think about. I've been thinking about it a lot lately,
and I figured we could talk about it here on
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
All right, that's it. I gotta get out of here.
I gotta do something at seven, So we're just gonna
do soor ratchiness and wrap this up. It's been fun
a little bit of food for thought for everybody you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
And I truly do mean, I hope, I hope y'all
are right about method man, and it all is just
like I had to beat this kid's ass and he's
completely cool and find about it if it's true or
more honestly, what I mostly hope is that he's telling
the truth and that it didn't even fucking happen, because
I think that's actually the best case scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
But yeah, I do wonder. Look, I've fought people before.
It's still it means something.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Just because you're in denial about it or you're right,
it don't mean that it means nothing, right, it means something.
It's soldiers come back with PTSD for a reason, Yes
they do. Black people die early and have PTSD and
all kinds of shit health wise mentally for a reason.
Dog like living in that type of fight or flight

(01:32:57):
is not normal and it's always healthy and conducive. Maybe
it's fine for metha man, but.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
It's very interesting that people did.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
I didn't see anyone even think about Oh yeah, maybe
he maybe it said something that he lost control on site. Yes, anyway,
A man who described himself as a psycho killed his
neighbor with a sword two months after being discharged from
a psychiatric hospital. Damn Abdual Khan twenty seven faily stabbed
father to bought On Vadizua thirty nine times in the

(01:33:30):
street of North Harrow, Northwest London in July twenty twenty three, Wow,
thirty nine times. Khan, who has already admitted manslaughter by
reason of diminished responsibility in relation to mister Vadezura, denies
attempting to murder a second man months earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
He's like, no, no, no, I did the one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
I'm not gonna get the two murders, only one the
second Parton is like he also tried to kill me
months earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
WHOA now you a goddamn lie.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Okay, I don't know why you think I just trying
to kill anybody with a sword, went off Connor here
via video link from brod Moore Hospital, a secure hospital.
Wise father of Kahil Khan, Khalil Khan, appeared in court
and denies assistant and offender.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
The Old Belly heard that mister Razura, a.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Ukrainian who lived next door to Khan and his father,
left home for work at six eighteen am Abdul Khan
left his home his own home. A minute later followed
mister Razera along the road carrying a hold all, and
a pulled a large sword from the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Bag, striking him from behind. I guess I hold all
his bag.

Speaker 7 (01:34:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
They of course got it on CCTV footage, so maybe
he had to admit to that one you were.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Recorded the other dude, I hopeing of that is a
bad because the way you described it like it couldn't
be nothing else butter bag.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
But who knows that what they said he pulled it
from the bagh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Okay, it's the next sentence says he was carrying a
hold off and he pulled a large sword from the bag.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
A so hold off that sounds like back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
So uh yeah, there was a violent strike of the
sword for each of the thirty nine seconds of this relentless,
relentless assault. So he struck him one time per second
with the sword for thirty nine seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
No receptive to reason, not RECEPTI the reason remembers attack? Well,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
I wonder because if he was just having a mental
health episode, it might not have been liked.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Was that they don't sound like there was a reason
behind it. That's true. And his whole thing is like
I was just out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Like his defense is that, you know, he's not guilty
by reason of him savy or something.

Speaker 7 (01:35:45):
U He is not.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
He was not recepted. The reason the prosecutor.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Said at the running home he was arrested needed to
be severely mentally ill. Yes, so I don't think the
guy did something. Jurors were told that his father took
a carrier bag later found to contain the bloody tracksuit
and trainer to lock up garage to a lockup garage
old by his brother.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
So he tried to get rid of the evidence.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
That bloody clothing had to be got away from the
home address as soon as possible. He was disposed to
the clothing, mister David said. Dischyicatris, who later worked with
abdual Khan, said he was one of the most mentally
unwell men I've treated in my career. Oh no, yeah,
he say he had voices in his head that told
him to make a corpse of this of his neighbor. Basically,

(01:36:26):
oh no, let's see. Then they showed CCTV footage of
Santa stressed, stressed, being knocked to the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
So that's the other guy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
He was repeatedly punished and stepped by Khan. So okay,
so this isn't even the first guy. This the other
guy is like, yo, he attacked me in twenty twenty two,
and he said he had voices in his head that
told him to kill me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
And that's the one. He's like, I ain't do that one.
That's crazy. I ain't do that one, which y'all think
I'm crazy. I just be attacking people. No, I just
killed the first dude.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
He attacked mister Stressor for a second time about six
months later in a local shop one damn. He said
he only failed to kill him because he did not
have a weapon on him. I was a psycho back then,
too aggressive and explosive. When sufficiently provoked, it results in
outbursts of physical violence. Was he provoking you, though, sir?

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
In May twenty twenty three, he was sectioned under the
Mental Health Act, having been arrested at a pub for
grabbing a man by the throat and threatening the firebottb
the venue.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
I don't think anyone's provoking him. I think the voices
are provoking him.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
And he's apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Just four days later, he walked free after his father
applied for his discharge. Jurors were told, and then I
guess months later he killed him man, so should have
probably took it seriously before he got that sword and
he ended up killing people. I would do the other
story about Trump dancing with that sword, but honestly, guys,
I feel like my whole mission in life has been
one of y'all about both of those threats.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
So they been both super important.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Yeah, hopefully y'all got that. All right, y'all, that's it
for today's episode. We appreciate y'all for listening. We'll talk
to you Saturday for feedback. Until next time, I love you,
I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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