3058: Good Faith

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because Rotten,
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout to his podcast.
I'm your host, Rod joined us always with my co host,
and we're live on a Saturday morning. Ready to do
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(00:30):
Let's just do this all up front. Okay, we did
our live show last night.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It went off. It was dope, it was fun. Uh,
it went on.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I would say it went off without a hitch, but
that's not true. It was hitches, but we were kind
of prepared for a lot of the hitches.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
But there were people who watched it virtually.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't know how many had the issue, but some
people were having issues with the sound where it was
too hot, like it was up too loud at times,
like especially when we play music. Some people even said
when the audio and this was chairing, it will get
too loud on the zoom.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, we got a couple things.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
One, I have the audio from our backup recording, so
that audio. I listened to it this morning. It is
a little pitchy, but it's not like unlistenable or too
loud to the point where you're like, oh my god,
I can't hear the show.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm gonna email that audio out to everyone who had
virtual tickets, so you guys will get a copy of
that audio for sure, and then the actual video recording.
It takes a couple of days to get that back,
so probably sometime next week before I actually get the
Zoom video recording. They may do something with the sound
to try to like even it out, make it sound

(01:40):
a little bit better than it did for those who
are having issues during the live stream.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
If not, I will, and maybe there's someone in the audience,
or I'll just reach out someone professionally or something. There's
I'm sure there are people that can take the audio
that I have for our backup in house recording and
sync it to the video of the Zoom so that
you'll get the full experience.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I will. I'll be looking into that.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I have everyone's email address who had tickets for the
virtual thing, so I'll make sure to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'll also put it behind the paywill for.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Our premium people, and so everyone who got the you
know who paid for that experience, will still get that experience.
And if you still have issues after all that, email
me and you know, I'll see if I can get
your money back or something. If anybody was like that unsatisfied.
We're not trying to make anybody feel like, you know,

(02:35):
they should get a bad product, so right, but hopefully
doing those things.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Will satisfy everybody to some extent.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
The real ty is when I got there, So this
is how I call myself being prepared for the show.
I bought a brand new mixer, like a brand new
never before taking out the box from our the same
mixer I have here that works all the time. I

(03:04):
was like, let me get this mixer for one for
when we do live events, so I don't even have
to unplug anything here.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
We just plug and play over there because we've used
it before.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
But I've never used this mixer particularly, and for some
fucking reason, it would not register to record on my
local PC, meaning when I was doing the show, I
could not see the wave patterns on the recordings so
I can see how loud or quiet it is. So
I had to just kind of go off of ear

(03:33):
and in house and then trust that they get that
squared away on their end and so it got a
little pitchy. It's not their fault, it's totally just technology failed.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Is no no one.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
If anyone's fault, it is my fault because I didn't
test that mixer before I hooked it up for the
first time, assuming why would this plug and play mixer
that has never been.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Used, why would it not work? But it doesn't fucking work.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
So that was a that was a bummer, and I
hate that that, you know, messed up anyone's experience live
at all. I understand it wasn't a lot of people
many people I see today saying I watched it on
the stream and I loved it, and you know, blah
blah blah. But you know, for those handful of people
that didn't enjoy it or just had an issue with
just a recurring sound thing, I'll try to do what

(04:22):
I can to make sure you get a better sounding version.
But that housekeeping done up front. You know, we want
to get to you know, y'all's feedback and stuff, because
y'all did leave feedback. But I know some of y'all
are curious about just how the show went all that
stuff and the briefest, fastest way to put it.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
It was fun.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It was very enjoyable.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
I couldn't speak for me personally, This show right here
was the most comfortablest I've ever felt. I was just
full of energy. I wasn't nervous, I was in it,
none of that stuff. I was just full of energy.
And We've done this enough to where I've kind of
adjusted myself, like I know how to disperse their energy

(05:13):
a little bit better than I previously did, So I
didn't wake up asking Chica was the questions, trying to
do last minute shit didn't.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Need to be done, and all that stuff. I was
just chilling.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
So for me, it was a very fun and a
very enjoyable experience. And also for me, it's not the same,
but this particular show because of the closeness and the
smallness and just kind of we drew the audience.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
In this time.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
The intimacy of the space.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah, the intimacy of the space reminded me of the
show we did in DCE with Chris and Brandon and
all the Negro Yes. It gave me that same vibe
where it was like it was a very special show
where like a very like you almost kind of had
to be there to experience it type of thing. And
some of those same people we did that show, we're

(06:06):
at this show too, like some of the same people,
and so it was a very and I think that
nostalgia and it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Just made the day just very special to me.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Nah, I was definitely overwhelmed with like just the amount
of people that hopped on a plane in this day.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, a lot of people hopped on a plane.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know when you got to check the forecast for planes,
like it's a seventy percent chance or planes crashing to day.
So like I was very like, you know, taken aback
by just the people that did that. I was very
impressed and very you know, like people obviously our audience
when we did the VIP pictures and stuff and just

(06:45):
everyone's story and you know, getting to see and hug people.
So many people were starting to see multiple times and
you just start remembering, like, wait, they was at the
last show. And even though we don't always remember everyone's name,
I forgot to put the name tags out. But even
though we don't always remember everyone's name, like it's still
like I remember that face, I remember the jokes.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I remember things you share.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
You know, people like taking a minute to just tell
you how much they appreciate you and ship you been
through stuff, stuff they've been through listening to the podcast,
you know, people telling you about like I had an
hour and forty five minute commute.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You guys got me to work every day and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Where you know, back when people were telling us like
make the show shorter or no one wants to hear
a podcast that you don't know everybody and I don't know,
we seem to have been successful this, so maybe shut
the fuck up and just do what the fuck you
gonna do. But sorry, I mean to get get testy,
but how many years did we need to hear that bullshit?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Where it's like, clearly time we have an audience.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe it's not the audience size you would plenty of shows.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
They can do a ten minute, thirty five minute show
and you can be listen to them and keep it trucking.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, go start you a podcast and see if you
can do better than us. But yeah, then the venue
people were amazing. Andrew who was the sound guy who
just like work, got everything like working with us, Corey
who helped do all the like event planning and stuff,
and like they set up the space, everything was as

(08:16):
they said it would be. Anything that we needed changed,
like you know it's like, oh no, no, we can
get rid of these tables, or we can do this.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
They were on top of it.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, help helped me with the step and repeat because
I didn't have no idea how to put that together.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Shout out, yes, Like shout out to all of those
people that came through, like for the VIP. You know
Don Rivera was there with his wife Tianna. That was
that's a long time coming yet that I don't think
we've ever met in person before.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Tried and something would always happen and they couldn't make it.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
So like it meant a lot that they made it down,
you know, to to see us, and that you know,
they was, you know, there in person getting to chop
it up and I got to finally ug and tell him,
you know, I'm sorry for his sixers, you know, in
the way that only Charlotte Hornets fan can understand it.
And then uh, you know, Jail Covan was there, my

(09:15):
parents were there, my niece Layla was there being grown.
My uh justin came of course and Jail was just
you know, amazing, Like he did about twenty so minutes
up front and we got to sit in the audience.
This is I mean, honestly, it is one of my

(09:36):
favorite things about doing the live show is that we've
been able to bring comedians down the three or four
times that we've done it on our on our own, yes,
I think three of the times we've been able to
I think yet three times we've been able to bring
comedians down and like pay them for their time, put
them up in a hotel, you know, like because I

(09:59):
think it matters how you treat people and shit. And
also these are talented people. We're not just bringing in
people that are slouches of people. That's like, you know,
I hope they funny, Like it's people we know it's funny.
And seeing them get to do that thing in front
of the audience was like some dope ass shit, you
know what I mean, Like, I really like watching Jail

(10:20):
do his thing for twenty minutes was just fucking I
was sitting in the audience laughing like I was. I
was a fan for that twenty minutes and then it's like,
oh yeah, he's about to bring us song I'm like
trying to hit the music and shit like, oh fuck.
At one point I fucked the music up. You can
hear it because I was doing something on my phone
and so I was playing the audio through Spotify on

(10:40):
my computer, which was through the house speakers, and I
accidentally hit the button to like Denzel Curry's song while
jayl was talking about how he used to be he
used to cheat and in college, and he worked it
into the joke. It was so perfect you would have
thought were playing that shit. It was a complete accident

(11:02):
and we fixed it. But it was just like, man,
he's such a great professional. And you know, I told
my dad before Jail showed up, like oh.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, he's like, who's a communie.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I was like Jail Covan, It's like, oh man, he's
the best trump impressionist and he does a lot of
voices and all this stuff. And my Dad's like okay,
you know, like I wasn't sure how familiar he was
with his game, right, But it was that thing where
because my dad wasn't like, oh yeah, because my dad
is up on so much, he knows all the ship.
He's sending me shit off YouTube all the stuff, and

(11:33):
so him not knowing jail was a treat for me
because I was like, oh, you don't even know how
good this is gonna be. You think like you you
think that like, oh it'll be like nice, okay a
comedian and like no, I was sitting next to my
dad and when jail like goes into the trump elon
musk John Bernthal's period, and he's just my dad's just

(11:56):
losing it.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Just felt so good to have that. You know, my
mom did your hair and makeup and all that stuff,
so you had the locks flowing on these holes to
let them.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Know I did.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I did.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
I had a very good time.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
I really do enjoy your mama doing my makeup and
all that stuff, you know. And she was joking about
me being the princess. I do feel like a princess
and and have my hair going to make up and
all that stuff, and uh, you.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Normally don't do that kind of stuff just on your
own or normal like, so you know, I think people
just don't. They're just not familiar with your game. They
they hit them in.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
The face until they see it. And it was.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Beautiful that I was gonna say, oh, no, go ahead,
no you go.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Oh and I was gonna say shout out to the
VIP people.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
You Negro showed up on time.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Y'all was lining up and everything, and I looked, I
was like, oh, let me go get Roger.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I'm like these Negros. Was like, let's get this party started.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
The other thing that was cool was.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The theme of the show was Viewers' Choice, so we
and look, this is something that I feel like I
just kind of made this up. I don't know if
any other podcast has done this or does this, but
I know our show has all these segments in this,
and I know fans like it. I this might be
the live show format going forward. Like I liked it

(13:23):
that much. Where Like because every time I try to
come up with something different, like it was retelling, you know,
bulletball extremes, you know, all.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
But man, y'all coming up to the mic and then
saying what your segment is and then us playing the
music and then all that stuff. That was like a
super cool moment where we got to like have fun.
Everyone's singing along to the songs and all of that stuff.
So that was like a cool, cool experience. And then

(13:52):
we gave away prizes to everybody who who who like
picked a segment regardless if they like won the game
or not, just whatever pick savement they picked, and so
that was fun.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
And also I would like to give a shout out
to Felt five because we actually met him in person.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
This is the first time we've ever seen him in person.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
And I really appreciate Felt five actually feeling the love
for the from the audience.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, it was important.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
And also like when we're playing his song, him doing
his own ad libs and like live like it's on
the song, but then it's you know, like you hear
him like where it's like.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Every day we get into this paper and then he's
in there like yeah, yeah, you know, I'm like, yeah,
yeah we can.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
That was Dovi as fuck man. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
So just know, I appreciate him feeling the love that
people feel when they're riding through their vehicles at home
or streaming and things like that.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
And he's very very talented. And uh. I remember h
the photographer.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
This first time we worked with this photographer and she
had never heard of the show before before I contacted her,
and she was telling me how she was just amazed
how people it was like traveling all over and how
we were.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Interacting with people. Mary came from California.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Yes, they would come from Florida, driving from New Jersey
like they was like we coming to see y'all.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
And it was very people that was straight from Charlotte.
There was some that we knew from Charlotte. You know
Ryan and Christine who you know Ryan did the Queen City.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He's the Queen City nerve like an editor or publisher
or owner what not. Probably all of them, yeah, probably
all of them.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
And Christine who I followed. I've been following her on
Twitter for a long time and I know she works
a lot with like local nonprofit type stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
They was there from Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Walker who Walker Male who people know from w fn Z,
our local sports radio station.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
And also if you're a sick, oh like myself locked
on locked Horns, so.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
He was there, you know, and you know, just obviously
people with friends and families.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Some of those people we know. But yeah, it always
feels like.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Such a collection of warm, good people that can share
a space together. And it's not about a space of
like you know, like trying like it's a space that
is inclusive and warm and nice and friendly. And to
see that reflected in our audience. It just it's something

(16:36):
about that that will always like make me so proud
because I'm like, I feel like the ultimate reflection in
yourself is your audience. If you like everyone thinks that.
I don't know if I've learned anything throughout this whole journey,
it's been that whatever your audience is, that's you.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yes, So whether whether you accept that.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Or not that then you should make if you want
like your audience to change, you should change. So if
you're like man, assholes show up and they try to
trove and say mean shit to me, it's probably because
you can be an asshole and you say mean shit
to people. If you're like people always want to argue,
it's probably because you always want to argue. If you
like people out here docsing and attacking people, it's probably

(17:17):
because you do similar shit. You encourage it with your voice.
And so just like the negative is true, so is
a positive. It is and you have to accept those flowers.
So like when we are in this space and everyone's
like communing, everyone's like celebrating, everyone's mingling, everyone's like, you know,
so positive and affirming, it really does mean something to

(17:40):
me because I'm like, that's who the fuck the blackout
tips is and uh, that's what I felt last night,
and that felt like amazing.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
It did.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
And also shout out to the staff because I'm just
I'm just being mean and it's more.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Of a shout out to yourself then to be a
shout out to the staff.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
But go ahead, it is a shout out to me.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Don't worry staff. If y'all listening, and I'll give y'all
shout out in the second, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Then shout out to the staff. They were very helpful.
Don't try to switch it up to what you was
gonna say. That's not what you was gonna say. That
is not what I was gonna say. The truth, Okay,
shout out to the staff. The staff was watching my
energy and things like that, and they was like, you have.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Such a lovely energy.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
They were talking about like my energy level so high,
and they were very very helpful in things like that.
And at the end of the show, you know, some
of them came down. I was like, y'all did a
great job. Y'all did a great show, and.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
So it was really cool and fun interact in the
acted with with the staff.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
And when we was backstage.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Somebody came backstage and they was like, uh, somebody said
that they had missed the meet and greed and they
wanted to meet you.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
By It wasn't somebody's. It was a bunch of few people. Yes,
but yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah at some of the staff, I was like yeah,
and I was like okay. So me and Rogerick finally
got back there. And when I tell you, I'm not
gonna lie, y'all, this made my night. It was a
very old friend of mine from college. I hadn't seen
her in like probably twenty years, and what was amazing.

(19:16):
We had lost touch and I think about her often,
but I had no idea how to reach her, how
to contact her anything.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
And we already together.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
And we've had a very very special relationship. Always nice,
always kind, always friendly, always loving, just just just a
very sweet, spirited person. And so I thought I had
lost her, and I was I just got and actually
like maybe a few days ago, maybe we could do it. Go.
I thought about her, and so she was saying that

(19:49):
she was on line and she was saying, I guess
since we probably be pushing and promoting and pumping stuff out.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
She was saying that we randomly fell through one of her.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
Feet, and she says, she looked and because you know
she's no she knows she's known us since college.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
And so she was like that look like riding camera.
She was like, I think that is.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
She was like, I'm gonna go to show. And she
came to you, and I'm so glad she did, and
so I got her number.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
It got up with her.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
We took pictures and things like that, and I told
her I wanted to get up and like go out
to dinner or something like that. So we just sit
and talk and so that made my night. And I
told the lady because it was like one lady, one
of the last people who told us that that somebody
was back there, and I told her, I said, thank
you so much, baby, I said, because this meant a
lot to me that I really got to meet her

(20:38):
and Roger was back there with us and all that
stuff and things like that, and it really meant the
world to actually see her.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Y'all put a picture of it on my Instagram, I
believe of y'all meeting up for the first time in
a long time as a surprise. Yeah, it was a
total surprise and shout out to the staff, you know,
like they were courteous, very professional. Know you know, we
had they were selling drinks in the actual area we
were at and it never was disruptive. Everybody was cool

(21:09):
about it. They handled the VIP meet and greet line,
all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Was was dope like it was.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
It was like real seamless helpful people that just all
it feels like they're rooting for you. You know a
lot of stuff comes through that venue, but I know
not everybody that comes through is like our podcast and
our audience, so uh, to have that like professional fun
atmosphere that just really got the vibe right and was

(21:40):
able to play off of the stuff we were doing
on the fly, like you know when we're playing the
games and selecting people from the audience and they're like
raising the house lights so we can see people in
the back and all of that stuff that was just
that was just such a good time.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Had a great and wonderful time, And thank you for
everybody that came out, and thank you for everybody that
live streamed and things like that.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
You made the night really really special.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
And afterwards, me and Rochick in Jail went out to
eat and had a great dinner and everything and.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Ended up being a beautiful, beautiful night.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, thank you, and yeah we finally got to try
Sea Level.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I walked by the place a lot, and.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I always just go that place looks expensive, That's what
I said, But I'm gonna try it one day. And like,
Jail paid for it, which is why Jail is so
bad at business man.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
It ain't bad at be terrible at business. I wanted
to pay for his meal.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
We paid him this money so he could come down
here and feel appreciated and respect it as the comedian
that he is that is deserving of those things. Do
not give us the money back in food.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Yes, he gave us the money back in food.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
And then with it being Jail always got a worry
that it's gonna be like a podcast two weeks from
now where he's got a gun in his map after
episode like and then then the train was laid and
then they I took pictures, but it didn't feel like
everyone wanted to take the picture with me, And it
was like, this is why I should have quit comedy

(23:11):
five years ago. They just I basically was just there
to help put up the step and repeat because I
didn't need a ladder to do it right because I'm
like and then I bought them dinner, but the credit
card was rejected in my bank was hacked because Ronning
Raphael hugged me, got into my Venmo account and I
didn't know what was going on. So now, thank you

(23:33):
Rod and Karen for keeping me in this work in
the worst existence in the world, so.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
For five more years until I really decided to quit
this time. Jail Jail is hilarious because it was one
of those things where people came there taking photos for us.
They taking photos with Justin in jail, and Jail.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Was like, Karen is treatment, It's treating me like a
like a charity case.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Like no, the people coming, these people know you and
they want to see you too, so they want to
take pictures with you also, right, and so you know,
they wanted to show you love. So I'm glad that
y'all showed jail all the love and y'all let Jail
know then he got more than five fans.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, it was it was funny, man, it was uh.
And then we were playing games. I had justin Jail and
Karen rotate picking people out of the audience to like,
come up.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
And at first, you know, like only a couple of
people put their hands up, you know whatever. But as
we were giving out prizes and it was getting more
fun and people getting excited, you can see all the
hands going up. And it was funny because I think
Jail picked the last person and it was our girl Sinying,
who you know writes and all the time and stuff,
and so he picked her. She was way in the

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back and he picked her, and so she comes up there.
It gets you know, she gets her a prize and
she she also defended Karen was like, y'all stop writing
and talk about it.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Our can right uh.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I went to give her her because we were almost
out of prize. I think we just had decorative like
little chair.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Because Roger was like starting girls like you you're too
quick on the draw, buddy.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I didn't know the timming, but yeah, yeah, they but
then she says, uh.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Like she whispered in my ear, like you know, I
knew Jail was gonna.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Pick me because I had the titties.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I was like, she played the game to win, play
to win, someone was gonna pick them titties.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Okay, and Jail loves a rack. Okay. He said it's
in the stand up, you know. That was so fun
shot out to him.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
And running Raphael was or something like that by somebody
said on surprise guest.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I had no idea he was down till he walked up.
I was like, Oh my god, are you serious.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Keith Mawley was there, Yes, And I didn't sit.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
And the thing about I picked Keith and he didn't
tell us he was coming or anything.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I didn't know he was even in town this week either,
because sometimes when he comes to town he'll like hit
us up and be like, you know whatever, Like I'm
just even if it's just to be like I'm gonna
be in town for a week. But total surprise, him
and his girlfriend Liz were there and Karen like picked
him to do a segment, and as a white dude,
he decided not to take any prizes during ours. But man,

(26:17):
god damn, that was fucking fun. Man, goddamn, that was
so good.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yes, to see a lot of people in the flesh
that we have never seen before.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
It's just ship like that. It was a ball.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Y'a was just and I felt like everyone got to
have like if you weren't familiar or if you didn't
know certain elements of our show, you got to experience it.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
It wasn't just one thing.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
So like if you were a person that had you know,
I'm more into the political side, you got a little
bit of that. But then you also got to get
some of the silliness if you wanted to get into,
like you know, if there's people that are there for
just like guess the race, there's people that are also
there and they got to hear a little bit of
the LGBTQ news segment, you know, stuff like that. It

(27:05):
meant a lot to me. Man, that was so fun
I was extremely comfortable with it as well. But I'm
always comfortable with.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
You are with the show or whatever. I always feel
like I'm in my bag.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
So although it is funny, because like there's things in
my mind that are funny, and when we're doing the podcast,
you know, there's no live audience other than chat, and
so that's something that might be tickling me inside. I'm like,
this is funny, and in the live audience, it's interested
to see like when the audience is like, oh my god,

(27:36):
this is funny, and when it's just like funny to me,
not that it changes anything, It's still funny to me,
but I'm like, oh, okay, they're not feeling that all right.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
The next segment is And.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
What's so funny to me is when you do a
live audience you hear people's live response and they say
that behind the computed in their job at.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Miss Mart was like turned up in like the second row.
I was like, oh, man, I can hear.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
So this was like the chat is alive, yes, And
when the chat is alive and well, And I really
appreciate when we played the songs people were, they knew
the verse.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
They sing lyrics.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
It was very enjoyable to to feel that that vibe
of oh, so y'all actually be feeling what we're feeling
at the house, you know what I'm saying, because no,
it's just me and Roger, so sometimes we don't get
to actually feel the vibe. And so some of our
favorite songs or y'all favorite songs, some of our you
know things of y'all things, and so it was beautiful

(28:37):
to hear that. And uh and also I'm glad that
the audience got to see other audience members that they
only see in the chat that they all see right
in You know, y'all got to see each other in
person too, So it was just a beautiful experience for
y'all to mingle amongst yourselves and take pictures and picks
and things to people that you've had these online function

(28:58):
and relationships in the community for every long time.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, and just go ahead and make sure that y'all,
you know, check your vemos, your skypes, your zels, uh,
your bank accounts, make sure it hasn't been hacked or whatever.
If y'all if y'all were sitting close to Ms Smart
or Raphael also bottom Misteak gave Miss Smart a tarot
card reading set, so like, make sure y'all be careful

(29:21):
how you get your readings and stuff. All right, we
gotta get into the show because we could do this
all day, and I would like to do other things today.
So I'm gonna play music and then we're gonna come
back and we're gonna actually start the feedback showing Ernest.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
Pure my money about.

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(32:41):
I found you via Karen Hunter's podcast, and I'm now
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Speaker 1 (32:44):
Keep bringing the jokes, facts and spot on commentary. Thank
you through Karen Hunter come through. There was some Karen
hundred people in the building.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yesterday shout out that Karen Hunter.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yep, yep. They was like, oh, you know, I'm a
Karen I'm a Karen Hunter rebel.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I was like, let's go, let's do it all right,
let's get to these episodes. Episode thirty fifty five Drug Operas.
Eleven comments, which is my fault. Guys, It's not really
eleven comments. I was just trying to reply to people
in real time, and that was a mistake. I should
just let y'all cook till Saturday. I say, respond on Saturday,

(33:21):
because here it is on Saturday, and I don't give
a fuck anymore. So it's like, oh, man, I should
have waited anyway. Apple says, I like to see a
drug opera, but of course here it is prohibited because
of ethics and customer protection. Well, y'all got laws and
shit over in Germany, it's y'all got laws. We just
pure capitalism over here, without caring that would be this,
This would not be the same show. She is absolutely

(33:42):
important for the Black oy Tips.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
And I really like her.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
How dare people to disrespect her?

Speaker 7 (33:46):
You?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I agree, they ain't. None of them people showed up
to the live show disrespecting. I know that much. They
would have got jumped. Why do people do that?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'll never under stand it, man, Because I am a
podcast listener as well. I'm not just a person that
makes podcasts. I listen to a lot of podcasts. I'm
a big fan of a lot of podcasts. When I
tell y'all, I've sent feedback to podcast before, I've communicated
with hosts on social media.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
All this stuff. I am not joking. In my twenty years.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Listening to podcasts, I have never written one of these
nasty ass letters to anyone.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Never ever. If I feel like I just just stopped.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
It, if I truly did feel the way someone feels
about the stuff they claim to feel. I would just
listen to something else too precious to write in and
tell somebody.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Their spouse doesn't bring anything to the show and didn't.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Expect them to take it well, expect respectful, like back
and forth conversation isn't insane thing to even believe.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Right, we would not have this conversation in real life, right,
And like.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
If anything, I feel like I hold back because I'm like,
there's a whole audience that's listening. Who will be turned
off by me calling this motherfucker seventeen different cuss.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Words all the way to Saturday? Who will be like
Rod didn't have to say all that.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
I'm trying to tell you, y'all, y'all, y'all be talking
about right, right, y'all, look up, y'all.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
But like Roger took it too far, right, So it's
actually an exercise and restraint to even responding the way
that I do. But like, no one agrees that you
stop being a weird loser, right.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't know if I agree about the wisdom of
seniors summer wise, but we see enough older people who
are in charge and don't seem very wise but hateful
as little as all young people are better, all older
people don't have wisdom. And I was like, I don't
know who you disagreeing with, because that's how we feel.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
That's you know. That was my basic reply to that
was like, what you mean you don't know if you agree?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I think I said throughout the conversation that you know,
aunt May being older, uh does represent wisdom in that character,
but there's other old people that aren't. Look at the
Vulture that Nigga is evil as shit. He old as fuck,
not wise at all. You need a spider man ass
whopping every week and set himself straight.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Green goblin, Yeah, exactly. That's another one.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
But uh, I guess one of the people in feedback
must have said that that something about older people being wise.
I don't remember, but uh, but anyway, I shouldn't have responded. Sorry,
earth Seed. I was too turned up. That was talking
about my wife. Earth See said that send up of
the Tyler Perry movies. Oh my god, that's so true.
They made my day, it really did.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
That was that that was very fun.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
That was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Run the Raphael says, we have a car and I
support congestion pricing.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I hear the example that you you know what I
would read all this. I already talked to a runner, Raphael.
We talked offline about this a little bit in the DMS.
But let me just sum it up by saying, running
Raphael is talking and I would say to me mostly
as if I don't support congestion pricing or the idea

(37:08):
of making the environment better, that's not any of the
points I was making on the show. I think a
lot of good, well intended initiatives from like governments, municipality, cities.
Oftentimes you have to stay on their ass to make
sure it's sustainable. And so all I was saying when

(37:30):
they first initially talked about this was everything is fine
in theory. Once it goes into practice, you see, that's shit.
That's when you find out the willingness of the government
to do stuff because one of the things we don't
talk about enough, and this is liberal people as well.
I've changed the topic so that it won't so I

(37:52):
won't get two more emails about congestion prices. But it's
like when you say we need to build rehabs and
uh prisons or jails or something like that, in different communities.
There's a lot of liberal people who will say, yes,
we do need a rehab facility for people who are

(38:12):
on drugs, people that are that need help getting out.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
We need to build that.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
And you say, cool, we're gonna build it in your neighborhood.
And then they go, not in my backyard. They call
them nimbies. But it's like, not not over here, build
that ship somewhere where I where where I not not
by me? And if you let see it, and if
you let every community do that, they'll never build it
anywhere because every community, once it stops being a theory

(38:39):
and it starts being like you need to put a
little bit of equity on the line to make this happen,
a lot of people tighten up with their with their wallets, their.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Their goodwill, their time.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
All of a sudden, it's like I thought that I
just thought this was a thing I could like as
a slogan. Right, same thing happened with, you know, ideas
like defunding the police or whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Like you have people where they when it's a theory,
there about it.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
When it's real, they're they're like, I'm less about this, right,
So congestion pricing is just another version of that to me,
not that not that it's bad. I think restorative justices
could be good. I think having UH rehab is a
good thing.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
So these are all things I support.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I think having less accidents at stoplights is good. When
we brought that situation up, what happens is politicians are
in the job of being re elected, which is also
means they're in the job being liked, which means if
the liberal people or anybody waivers on like the pain

(39:46):
point of being like I don't like this now that
I am having to actually deal with it. A lot
of times the politicians are the ones that tighten up
and just fold and be like fuck it whatever, and
then happens to that money. What happens to those promises,
we happen to the people. Depending on that, we'll happen
to the communities or a it to the pollution and

(40:06):
stuff that was supposed to go down. Those are the
things that I was like alluding to.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
So I don't want anyone thinking and I think Raphael
should be straight on this too, and like, this is not.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
A argument against congestion price and it's not about that.
This is more of a like, okay, So what's the
next step to make sure it stays. Maybe you find
a carve out for those people who are wage workers
who have a car for specific reasons and have to
come into the city so they're not your fat cats
because the goal. You know, a lot of times people
wrote this off to like, well the fat cats will

(40:43):
do it. Maybe you have to get a waiver and
these may already exist for the record, but maybe it
becomes like you need a waiver for people with disabilities.
You know, these are like for teachers, and yeah, like
these are just thinks. You know, you need to make
aware that people that these waivers exist. So it's like, listen,
if you do need a car because you need a
specized vehicle to get in and out of the city.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Maybe these things exist, maybe they don't. But my point
being you it's gonna take adjustment and sticking with it.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
It can't just be a we're out, we're in, we're out,
we're in. And of course what Trump is doing and
the GLP, who's on no one's ever on their side.
I'm not I'm not with them.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I'm sure it's a fucking dumb ass reason they don't
want congestion price, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
But for the for whatever it is is this is
the bigger picture.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
This is the warning that I'm saying is that you
if the people on the ground who are affected by.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Are like actually knowing now that it's here, maybe Trump
is right.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
That's that's the worst case scenario for any For Maya
Wiley and everybody who promoted congestion pricing, I guarantee you
to them, the worst case scenario is Donald Trump repelling
it somehow or or make you know, getting in the
way of it, and the people that you were saying
you wanted to help with this going. Actually, I think
Donald Trump, I'm just making a good point. That's the

(42:01):
last thing you want. So you have to get in
front of these issues, in my opinion. So I think
that's as best as I can summarize it without it
turning into like a back and forth. And I know
he said also that Eric adams administration has nothing to
do with it.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's Governor Hoko, And I hope you're right.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I just don't trust that Eric Adams operates within the
boundaries of his administration when he is sucking the dick
of Trump. Right now, maybe you do trust that he'll
he won't go all the way to the hilt, but
I don't, And I feel like if Trump wants certain
things that happened in New York City, I would not
trust Eric Adams far as I could throw him to

(42:41):
be like, well, you know, the boundaries of my duties
as mayor means I can't affect that. I wouldn't trust him,
but that, you know, That's why I won't put it
past him to somehow put a finger on the scale
in any way that can harm congestion pricing.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I would not put it past him because he essentially
works for Trump.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Now, yes he does.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Shoe Booty.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
We saw her last night. She said, congestion pricing.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Can't work as a solution to fund public transportation improvements
without safe and viable public transport already in effect, it's
like a transportation Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, low key.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's what happened with our stoplight program here, that that
that charged people money every time they ran to stop.
Like they said, the money was going to the educational system,
and it just it. For somehow, even with all the
money they were getting from the bills or whatever, somehow

(43:34):
it didn't add up, and the money never went there.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
But of course I were people that like it made
it more dangerous.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
To be honest, we have more rex, not less, but
still if the whole point was like, yeah, but at
the end of the day, we got millions and millions
of dollars in revenue for these kids, Hey we'll when
you know, we'll take the sacrifice. Turns out that wasn't
even real. So you just have to stay on these programs. Ass,
It's not it's not a it's not a suggestion about
specific program being like terrible. It's just say, hey, this

(44:03):
is a this is what happens with a lot of
the people in the electric We think we voted and
then our job is over, right, But like, no, you
have to stay involved and you have to stay connected.
I know Ron and Rafael will absolutely be one of
those people that stays on top of it. And you
were so on top of it with what he said
in his comments. But yeah, like you have to be
careful because the government will say this is gonna help

(44:23):
public transortation, and then you look up a year later
and public transportation is still the same, and where the
fuck did the money go?

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Right, Because but a lot of these initiatives only time
will tell, right, And you know, depending on some of
these initiatives, certain ones they're not new, their initiatives that
were bought.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Up decades ago.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
And you're like, Okay, if y'all bought these up years ago,
what went wrong to make y'all give up and stop?
Nobody ever thinks about tweaking it or changing it or
modifying it. It's not to say that you need to
trash it, but if you bought it up decades ago
when it didn't work, and you rebringing some of the
same initiatives up, something has to adopt. And also, so

(45:00):
something that irritates mean is that they always love to
throw the kids in front of shit for shit like this,
and then a lot of times, depend on situation, don't
do what they're supposed to do for the kids.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
But y'all did that just so the shit would pass.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, so hopefully it works out.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
But you know, I think shoe Booty's onto something you
know about the idea of like part of what would
make it work is having the transit that's so good
that people feel safe and all this stuff, and that
it works all the time, and so that even goes Hey,
the reason you have a car is.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Maybe you find it more reliable or whatever.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Well, look, our subway system is reliable, but instead it
becomes like a chicken or egg thing. Give us the
money so we can make the subway system reliable and
then you won't need a car. Well, I need a
car because it's not reliable. We'll give us the money
from the car so that you know, it's like a
transittation Ponzi schein. We'll charge you more for the driving
here so you can improve the subways. But there's literally

(45:52):
no guarantee those improvements will ever come. Think of all
the ways they raise fairs and things are still as
shitty as ever. Yeah, every time the MTA raises a fair,
do people feel that on the ground where it's like
this train is now more like better because I pay
an extra quarter or is it just like you feel
like you paid extra quarter and everything's the same, right,
Even he says, I'm not a shame that man. I've

(46:13):
seen every single Tyler Perry movie. Do I think they're
good cinema? No, But I'm always entertained, absolutely, I mean too.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Yeah, the end of the day, that's kind of all
that matters, y'all. Are you entertained.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Come on, I believe they said that isn't Gladiator? Are
you not entertained?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
So that was drug operas. Now what I found out
through this is I forgot to put this episode on YouTube.
So hey, mistakes sometimes I make them. I'll put them
on there later. It'll be out of order probably or something.
I don't know how fucked up, guys, but I will
put this episode on there.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
The poll is do you play video games?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Forty eight percent, No, fifty two percent. Man, Still, that's
pretty good ratio half and half. Basically, next episode is
he doing the face under there with our homeboy Chris Lambert?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
He was doing that face.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Rona Rafael says, I was about to comment on the
villain storytelling when then Rod said just like porn and
reference to Chris saying Lily Allen was a pop star
with a hit in the early two thousands, almost.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Died, never changed, Rod.

Speaker 8 (47:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know it meant a lot to me yesterday.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Rona Raphael was up there because I gave him a hug,
because I feel like I do. We playfully go back
and forth, but you know, I always want to make
sure that people like some people. You can do that
with and you know he seems up for it, like
he comes back every week and talks about middle names
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
But some people can't take it.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
And it's like they really do be thinking like you
don't fuck with them, and I, you know, I don't
take that liberty with everybody because I do know most
people can't handle that. So it felt good to like
get that brother hug and let him know like it's
such a good school and.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I'll be fucking with you on the show Man. I
appreciate you allow me to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
All I kept thinking about during the Gillion take, Oh
Gilligan take Vince Gilligan about the villains take on villain
presentation and storytelling is how some people can't get their
hairs around thing those I guess as soon as villains
will come relatable, it's automatically equals cool. That meant they're right,
make villains basic again. Great episode is always let me
go get get tickets to Chris. Yes, shoe Booty says,

(48:22):
if anything happens to me, know that my ex husband did.
It was something I had to tell my friends. I
miss my divorced years ago.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Oh that I gonna mess And that's who did it
we women consume true crime to know the threat better.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
They we have a whole different it's a whole different reality, man.
Like that's why it was always i mean, not that
men can't be abused and all this stuff, but it's
always kind of wild to me when like a woman
talks about like the experience of being a woman, and
a dude just tries to especially like you know, in
the typical cis heteronormative ways, tries to equate the two

(48:57):
like well, you know, as a dude like a woman
in one time put it's like, you know, you're not
walking down the street after coming out of the club
and you see a group of fucking women and you're like,
get me the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Hope they don't do anything to me. That's not our reality.
And it's okay to be like, there's just different perspectives
and things that people have to worry about when they
have a different experience and a different life and body
than you.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
And that's it.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You don't there's no need to try to like measure
Themssion Olympics.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, just just look at it and go okay, you know,
like and you can't solve it either. Like it's not like,
you know, like I always find it weird when dudes
do that thing where.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
A woman tells them the experience they had with some
creepy ass nigga and it's like, you know what the
problem is?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
System, See, you wasn't dating a man. You was dating
a little boy. And I'm like, I don't know, can
he rent a car? Can he vote? Can he buy alcohol?
That's a man.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Now you might not like his actions, but that motherfucker
has all the legal rights and recourses of a man,
all the excess of a man.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
That's a threatening ass thing to deal with, ain't it.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
No motherfucker like, this is not it's not a little boy.
A little boy can't rent a car. A little boy
can't just go get a gun.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Possibly you know all that shit a grown ass man
stalking you or bothering you as a fucking problem. Man, Yes,
it is so anyway, uh my point being, yeah, that's
that's scary, But it's a reality for women that you know,
you had to tell people your friends like, yo, this
motherfucker might crash out and if so, like look at him.

(50:40):
How many true crime things have I watched where the
reason they caught the person or whatever. One of the
biggest things is that the person that was killed, the
woman knew she was like this motherfucker will kill me.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Most crimes that are committed against women, regardless of what
they are, being robbery, sexual assault, killing, they know the victim.
Everybody will perpetrator. Yeah, don't mean the perpetrator. Everybody want
to think everybody's fucking jump out the bush. It's really
really low. Most people that can hurt you have the

(51:13):
most access to you.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I'le says, how to not be worried about egg prices
ever again, Get yourself an egg algae like I got
all after my first pregnancy.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Eating eggs makes me have terrible stomach pain for hours.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
You'll never want eggs again, and even the smell will
make you feel eggs just thank you, my body.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I feel like that's if you're looking at it directly
as eggs.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
But there's a lot of other stuff happening in the
egg related economy, Like what about foods like cake that
require eggs?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Them prices gonna go up, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
What about stuff like uh, you know, when people are
you know, looking at the economy in general and they see, like,
maybe y'all have to kill somebody for some eggs, you know,
like a dozen eggs. You see a person walking around
the street with a dozen eggs. Y'all, y'all, don't think
about pulling out the hammer, no, sir.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Okay, all right, that's just me at least not yet.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Shoe Booty says, okay, okay, okay, wait wait wait, I
got input on this white people news.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
So a few weeks or months ago, I read a
blind item that David Harbor had to go drag his
naked wife out of a drug house, that she was
back on the stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh not the blond idem. Then the news breaks they
are getting divorced.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I believe them blind. Also, Joshua Jackson better pay up.
He's on some new new boat doctor drama show. He
got the coins. Yeah, he on Doctor Odyssey. Now I've
seen it. I seen the commercial. It was a big
ass boat and he was on.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I was like, boy, if you don't pay your baby
mama and stop bullshit and playing in my face, Tomy,
I know it's hard for a black woman.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Chris Chris Pine will whoop your ass talking like that
crazy even he says, when you did white people news
on that item on the codor Johnson, I'm surprised you
didn't recognize her name from worst of ten Sony Spider
Man villain movies.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
She was Madam Webb. Yeah. The problem with that is
even you gotta remember I get my white actresses confused,
and it's a couple of them Dakotas, and I just didn't.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Want to it with that last name, d Koda.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I didn't even feel like tanking it, so I was like,
I don't know which one this is one of them, Dakotas.
I'll never forget her because that movie was straight up ass.
It really was a bad movie. I can't believe they
put that out.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Oh wait, I'm sorry. The next episode on YouTube. Okay,
on YouTube, let's see, I mean comments, got four comments.
Brett says, finally someone is saying this.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Everyone mocks George Lucas for writing one dimensional villains, but
nowadays every antagonist, no matter how evil, is portrayed as
having deep reasons for their actions. This creates the illusion
that no one is purely evil and that everyone has
good intentions, which is far from the truth. Darth Vader
is a space hitler. We should not sympathize with him
because he embodies pure evil. Thing knows it's also pure

(54:04):
evil and genocido. I feel like every villain in the
media is presented with nuance, regardless of how atrocious the
actions are. In this context, it's easy to see why
people believe everything is fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Democrats and Republicans are viewed as equal. Bigotry and dei
are treated the same.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
And it's no surprise of were witness in the real
emergence of out in the open far right fascism.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
And also, I think for me, it also goes to
show you how much people don't use critical thinking skills
because the purpose of that storytelling is to because when
it comes to entertainment, people just want black and white,
good and evil.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
And I get it, y'all. I get it.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Sometimes people just they're just shitty. But I like storytelling
that actually gives me background, story and depth shit about
the villain. Like for me, I actually enjoy that because
that's part of the storytelling. It don't excuse their behavior.
They still ain't shit, they still bad, they still evil,
you know, But a lot of that goes to the audience.
You know, a lot of time and funny, not to

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the people that's creating the product. A lot of that
goes towards the audience and the consumers of it, consuming
it and thinking well.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
It's fifty to fifty.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
No, bitch, their actions today, regardless of what they went through,
their actions today showed that they're not a good person,
and that's what matters.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, I think so. I think I agree with most
of that too.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
And I think also the specific type of show that
he's talking about that Vis Gilligan makes you don't watch,
so you okay, this isn't just like the Marvel stuff
he's talking about, I think is very valid and true
as well.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I don't mind those stories. I actually like stories where.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
The good guy and the bad guy are just reflections
of each other that were faced with similar, similar circumstances,
but one person made a different choice and it changed everything.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Actually like that storytelling narrative. I won't, you know, but
what I don't.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
What I do think Vince Gilligan is talking about is
stuff like Breaking Bad, the Sopranos, Better Call Saw, where
like the person is just a villain and you're just
rooting for the villain. The show is about the villain
trying to win. He's doing bad things and making moral
compromises all the time. And when you extrapolate that out,
it's not just the audience that's on the storyteller, Okay,

(56:26):
Like the storyteller told chose to make a story about
a villain and their attempt to be villainous, and whether
they counched it in like understanding the empathy or not.
The fact that you made that your protagonists, that you
made their needs the audience, it puts a different narrative
context and goals around it and a different moral outlook.

(56:48):
And when you I'm sure that as storytellers who we
all feel our stories can be powerful and all this stuff,
when you look up and you see someone like Elon
Musk and Donald Trump being soft and for the rest
of us, you do get this moment Y're like, wait
a minute, that's that's that's people taking my story and

(57:10):
turn and looking at the real life person and going
why can't we root for them?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And so I think that's a big deal.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
You know. Yeah, And now that part I do agree
with h from that perspective, Like you said, I haven't
seen it, so for me, yeah, my perspective is a
little different on that and so for me, I understand
that versus like you say, if they would have told
breaking back from the wife's perspective or something like that,
y'alla have been like, goddamn, she had an ain't shit husband.

(57:37):
But because it was told from his perspective, all of
a sudden, she's a fucking lunatic who should stay with
her husband, regardless of somebody that she married as a
fucking teacher, And all of a sudden he wanted to
be a kingpin anybody in that right mind, and there
was like, no, bitch, something's wrong here.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Jason says, Yeah, America has always been had a fascination
with the bad guy mob movies have been big forever.
But there's absolutely was a centicism that grew up in
the nineties once the Joker became more popular than Batman
in nineteen ninety it was a rap. It might have
something to do with the whole sale of America in
the eighties on factories closed and we learned how corrupt
the police and politicians really were. Nobody really trusted the

(58:13):
good guy anymore. I know y'all aren't wrestling fans, but
that's how the eighties good guy is huk Hogan.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
But the nineties good guy is Stone Coast Steve Austin.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Anyway, it's always great when Chris where the white women
at labor Joe and the show. Poor dude, he's gonna
have to go for remarked to get these snow money
out against you thrown out. I know his special is
gonna be dope. Lastly, with that Joshua Jackson story was sad.
I guess he's trying to mighty duck that child support.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
They're good. That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Jet and let's see Jane says really interesting point about
writing less bad guys protest. I do think entertainment and
edgeoid culture definitely affects the way that general Republicans perceiving
real life bad guys, especially.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
In political spaces.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
They see a billionaire running the table on them, and
they think of them as a misunderstood character instead of
a clear threat.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I knew something was up when they tried to tell
us that eli must Nazi salute has anything to do
with autism. It's just one of those like I don't
even know what how stupid you think I am, or
how stupid you are.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Right, there's two many people out here that are autistic.
That does not do this. I wouldnt even think or
dream about doing this. So what are you talking about?
Maybe he just an autistic Nazi?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Right, that's a possibility too. World Jenny says, I usually
listen to Apple podcasts. I had to come to YouTube
to comment on this specific episode due to the local
news anchor conversation Mia Gradney on Houston KHO eleven h
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beautiful and impeccably style at all times during the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
They let her host to CBS Now News one night
and I could not have been prouder.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
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Do you enjoy dating? Yes, no, I'm not currently dating.
Seventy five percent of people are not currently dating, sixteen
percent do not enjoy dating.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
And nine and a half percent are actually enjoying dating.
Shout out to the nine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
All right, before we get into the last episode, let's
get some more music so I can put some more
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Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Y'all know what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
We'll be right back, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
It was Saw thirty fifty seven Negro to Caucasian translation
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Oh no, yeah, he was showing everybody me it's the

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show meet State.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Ramsey D.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Jingings says, good morning family. Regarding replacing the read out,
the weekend host Alicia mian Nndez, Michael Still, and Simon
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a two hour show on Monday from seven to nine.
Looking forward to Friday, February twenty eight, live show. Thank you,
Ramsey Jenkins, and I guess I didn't even think.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
About that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I guess they're replacing Joy read with like a panel
of these people, which is funny because it's the DEI panel, right,
it's black Latino women.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Anyway, we'll see how that works out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It's very weird with that stuff because on the one hand,
I totally.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Agree that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
There's an exodus of blackness and certain type of minorities
and whatnot out of these media spaces. But also I
would not put it past them to also have been
like it's just time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
For some new blood. I don't have a specific.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I don't have a They make it very hard to
make a specific racial case on an individual level.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
But the vibes feel off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
It feels like when you look around at who lost jobs,
it's like these people seemed a lot more expendable than
some of their colleagues, rights in to say hey everyone.
When I started watching Animate ten years ago, I felt
like the content ratings were lacking. There was a mature

(01:02:57):
badge for Genitalia, but nothing if.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
There was five minus sexually violent scene with screaming, but
no private part show.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
There's also used to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Be sexually suggestive dating simulator using small child characters. Hopefully
it's been taken down, So I did file a federal
Since I did file a federal complaint, Damn, I did not.
I've never seen the dating simulators with small children.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
I didn't even know that was an anime thing. I
ain't made it to them reaches an anime, but uh yeah,
I do wonder. I do think they just got better
at the theme because I've always known that there were
some that were rated mature, but they would have to
be like NC seventeen level to get a mature rating, right,

(01:03:40):
and there's all kinds of times I watch anime and
I'm like, this is definitely implying that might be sexual assault.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
This is definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Implying that that there's definitely like suicidal ideation and imagery here.
Like so, I guess maybe they're just getting better about that. Also,
with it coming from a different culture, they may feel
different about what requires a warning compared to us. Yes,
especially when a lot of American culture equates anything animated

(01:04:11):
with children.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
So we may have dismissed it broad swell, like like
we may not have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
The respect that reverence for the genre that Japanese people do,
where they're like, of course there's mature themes just because
it's animated, why would it not be, yes, Whereas in
America it's like you need to put a warning on
it because people are like, my kids watching a cartoon,
and it's like, no, your kids watching a cartoon, but
the themes about it are not really for kids.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
That's why I said the Scooby Doo and shit like this.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
You know, I know a lot of generations, generations get older,
they have an understanding about that, but a certain generations
still think that's what all cartoons are and you're like, no,
that's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Uh, let's go on to the next comment. I one
hundred percent agree, Rod. I don't participate in the weird
nicknames give folks give Trump or find them musing at all.
It's all weird when I see people typing it like
what does that do for you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
And let's go branding as whack as fuck. But then
I expect wack shit from the right suave. Yeah, today
I saw somebody with a stick on the back of
the suv. That was Donald Trump in the Barack Obama
mean colors y'all know, the one from his first like
hope campaign or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
But it was Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
He was doing two middle fingers to whoever was behind them,
and it said fuck Joe Biden, pure erral. You know,
just like in addition to grow the fuck up, what
do you think that even says about you? Because that's
not even a goddamn policy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
That's not he doesn't have policies. These people just want
to see other people hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
They don't have a thing that they want out of
Donald Trump other than other people hurting, which is sad
that was sharing a country with these motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
But you know, enough people moved out the way and
let these people win.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
So I guess it's their kind you for balls balls
in their court right now, and it's up to us
to get it back if we're gonna fight, fight for it,
because you gotta keep that same energy, And it's easy
for me to keep that same energy because I can
keep the main thing, the main thing. I don't really
need these people to be perfect as Democrats. I just
need them to be better than Republicans. Agreed, And I

(01:06:19):
don't really need to do a lot of like arguing
and going back and forth about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
That those are the choices. That's what we have.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
And uh, until the rest of y'all kind of wake up,
Uh that the ones who are on the outside who
are looking at this go down or who are on
the other side, until they wake up to what the
fuck is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
That's that's just where I'm gonna be.

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
You agreed, And like I said, as long as you're
better than Republicans, I am content with that, and that
that's my bar. Like you, I don't gotta like you.
We ain't got to do your best friends like you know,
you ain't got to make me feel good? Are you
against them. Yes, Okay, let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Uh, let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Sean says, your discussion about stepping back from the news
hit hard. It's especially frustrated when Kamala spent almost another
her time talking about trans issues, but the right wing
media made it sound like that was all she was
talking about, and then the left wing media complained that
she was spending too much time on trans issues.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Yeah, yeah, I was very I wasn't surprised, but I
was very let down disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I guess are very disheartened by how many people after
the loss were like, you know, we really should stop
advocating for trans people so loudly, and mostly because it's
an abdication of reality, meaning that is not what that
campaign she did was about the old clip they kept

(01:07:43):
showing in that commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
That was not about anything she was saying at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
It was literally just fear mongering because people are afraid
of trans people, and so the right wing knows that
that bigotry exists, and they're just like, look, we're gonna
use the transphobia to to to just stoke fears.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
It doesn't need to be real.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
And for liberal people that claim to stand for that shit,
it's also an abdication of a moral responsibility to people
within the community that we're supposed to be protected to say, listen,
fuck y'all, we just need to win because you have
no proof that you can win by letting trans people go.
There's no fucking reason. It's a It's really a fool's air.

(01:08:27):
And if you think that that's gonna happen, you can't
like what she The platform she ran was smart in
that she did not make her her campaign was not
about trans issues. And I mean that in a savvy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Smart way, meaning I think it is smart some and
I say this as a black person.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Some matter.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Let me switch it up because.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I don't want people thinking like, oh, you're talking about
trans people, but you're not trans.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
What do you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Let's just go straight to black fuck fuck fuck every
other issue, just only stuff that helps black people. I'm
a person that said I don't need a politician running
on defund the police if they're gonna fucking lose, right,
I don't need them to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Do that for me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
If you're gonna lose, it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
What I need you to do is win, and then
when it is time to do the budget for the
police to be like, no, I'm not going to keep
increasing your fucking budget exponentially every year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
You don't need a fucking tank to govern a town
of two hundred people. Go out there and do some
Mayberry shit like you supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
That's it now. You can't run on that, Like there's
no fucking campaign ad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Of Like, can't run on that, But you can just
through what the topics you choose to discuss and the
way you govern. You can run a winning campaign and
then be like, yeah, I never really talked about that
shit because y'all know what I'm on. I'm about to
help these people. I don't like, there's no reason for
me to. I don't have anything negative against trans people.

(01:09:58):
I'm gonna help people. I don't anythink negative against black people.
I'm going to help black people. That's what I would
like politicians to do, is to just win the race
and then we can do that later. But I don't
want them feeling like I must throw these people under
the bus too. It sounds like a thin line, and
it is a thin line, but it means something to me.
I don't need you throwing me under the bus to

(01:10:19):
try to win. That's fucked up that does go too far,
and I don't think it is a winning strategy, just
like you know, and I think in some ways black
people enjoy a little bit of a luxury here and
that we know within the powers of the Democratic Party.
Very few times will we truly truly be pushed down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
And thrown under the bus. It's not that it's never happened,
it can't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
It might even happen again, but it's not something that
happens to us often, right, compared to other people within
the party that may have different degrees of marginalization than us,
there are some people that is seen as okay to
do that too. So if you need to throw trans
people under the bus, people do that all the time. Honestly,
if you need to throw a woman's right to an abortion,

(01:11:04):
there are Democrats who have done that before because they
figure they can still win with the math there. Black
people we kind of enjoy a luxury where we are
our oversized presence in the party. Mean, you can't really
do a lot of that and be a valuable, valuable candidate.
But I know that's what they're doing. That's what Republicans
want to happen to trans people. And I think Democrats

(01:11:26):
will be making a moral and a tactical mistake to
do that to trans people, to cast them out of
the party, to cast their issues aside as if they
don't matter. I think that's a mistake, and I hope
they don't fall for it, because I really do feel
like that will come back to haunt people, because you're
not gonna win in my opinion, by turning by turning

(01:11:49):
into Republican light on trans issues of like, you know,
I also don't really support the trans people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I tolerate them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Well, sure it's better than and I'm gonna I would
like trans people do not exist, but it ain't much
better and it ain't really a rally and crowd in
my opinion.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Oh and the way I see it, it's a big tent.
And so when you start doing this, the tingul little smaller.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
And also it's one of my things where I've always
felt like this, once you start eliminating all these sisms
and isms, I'm on that list, like like like you
cannot go against one group of people that ain't me, and.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
I'm not and I don't think I'm not on the menu.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
I do not know what's wrong with black people to
think that they're so fucking superior that they are never
on the menu. Just because the gun ain't pointing at
you now, don't mean the gun ain't gonna point at
you later.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah, because I really do think that same logic does
work for black issues at some point. Right, it's the
math doesn't math today, But at some point, if you
keep seating ground to like, well, Republicans kicked our ass
with this, like Republicans really uphealed the racist how we
get that racist vote, at some point you do start
just getting into the slippery slope of now you actually

(01:13:05):
are a Republican light. And I know people say that
shit flippantly, and I don't like when they do that
because I think it does matter to context and everything.
But there's a world where Democrats literally can be a
one degree better than Republicans because of the game theory
of people just choosing not to vote for the things
that they complain about. They still blame everyone but themselves,

(01:13:26):
even though a large chunk of the blame falls on
the poor excuse of reporting an absurd moved to push
Biden out. I'm not bitter, Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, he said,
but this after disascerbating punditocracy of the left wing media
forced Biden out something they still say was a popular
push from the people rather than a bunch of theory
craft and a men maxed candidate and trying to have

(01:13:47):
a competitive selection process while pretending that there was no primary.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, that was trash and I still think people are
fucked up for that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
That dude, that black dude from the New York Times
be still trying to go on on Twitter and make
grants about Democrats no matter what Republicans do, and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That that nigga just feel like an optimy. I don't
get it, Like, bro, don't make sense. You and New
York Times did a lot of work, a lot of
nasty work. Claim claim this is what y'all wrought. Y'all
part of it, and yes you are y'all part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Like I don't care this this whole thing where Democrats
are the are the mom from the divorce that does everything,
that raised the kid, and the kid just wants to
be with fun dad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I'm tired of that shit. Like, then go be a
fucking Republican then, nigga, what the who gives a fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Since you don't care everything Democrats fought.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Cool, so when Nazis come rolling up the street, you're
just gonna be yelling about democrats, still right, get your
ass too, Yeah, even he says, Karen is right. And
all the tags on the anime on Control about all
the tags. I've had a subscription with them for a while.
I've noticed that recently that I've been putting tags on
all the anime. Imagine that they always had a warning
on the shown the ones because of the violence, but

(01:15:00):
now they even have them on showed you in Romance
and Slice of Life anime for cursing, sexually suggestive scenes, violence.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Adult situations, and various acts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
They even list the age of properness of each anime
that's a recent change is usually listed in the anime
itself in just a few seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Okay, that makes more sense because like I say, and
like I said, it's not that it wasn't there, but
it's the literally the first time that I've seen it
kind of up in the corner as the anime, like
something actually catch your eye where I'm like, oh, this
ain't always been here, and like like they say this
for every single animation, so I might have seen it

(01:15:35):
here or there, like they said, for certain ones, but
it's like, what is it twelve and up?

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
Fourteen? It up?

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
You know, And like you said, they'll describe everything it's,
you know in the series, even though it might not
be in that episode.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
If it's somewhere in the series, they'll list it all like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
And the thing is, I do a lot of I
watch a lot a bunch of them together, so when
I do it, it's like every single episode you see
it all like, oh, y'all want people to know y'all
got it flagged, not just on that first one, y'all
got it flag every time I turn it on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Uh, yep, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
That's kind of what we you know, where we arrived
at was like maybe they just up the new warning system.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
I love the Jennifer Husband Hallway Dames, but I've never
seen a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Single interview kind of like I've only ever seen Kelly
Clarkson singing on The Kelly Clarkson Show. Yes, yes, it's
just an hour long concert. Or does she interview people
to American Idol girls are winning?

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
Oh you know what that is true? Yeah, all you
see is clips are having like show off.

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
So her doing her intros? Yes, she forever singing YouTube.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Love you guys, you make my week.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Love your chemistry, says Parish King. Thank you. Damien says
it's far to me people who haven't learned their lesson
from the election. Hopefully things don't have to fall apart
completely before people are ready to stand on business. Elon
Dolje and the Trump administration can middle fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Kochie Nagro says this is hysterical. Ray Gunn says great show.
Rid and Karen, thank you, In says high Karen. I
love how you brought up your shaving your sideburns. As
I get older, I realized I've been growing sideburns too.
The other day I decided to shave my face and
was shocked to how much.

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
Hair that was. Right, you been the one peach for
us coming from Why all of a sudden you am?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I albell Rashad says fail. They are tousing jewels. Bro
It's a madness. That was funny tousing jewels.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Kennicole says, uh break a leg with the Live show.
Thank you, listen, we broke all the legs. Christoph says, Karen,
you're my favorite sit down comedian. Is his partner Deuces Wild.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yes, that was hey, Gray Bay says, as in ar Kansas,
living in Texas, that doctor making us look worse than
we already do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
That's everybody. The poll was, does Jennifer Husan have an
actual show? Forty eight percent of y'all say yes, Fifty
two percent say no. I'm gonna go into no area.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
All I see is gonna walk down.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
I think you go to the studio. It's just that hallway.
You walk down the hallway and once you get out
the hallway, you're back at your car.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
Some now, right, can't you go home? What happened?

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
All right, y'all? We got some voicemails coming up. Let's
get to the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
What's crazy is Skype is ending May first. That's where
our voicemail is from Skype. So I guess I'm gonna
have to get a Google Voice number, and I'm assuming
it won't be the same number, but I'll look into it.
I just haven't had time to figure out how to
transfer the number on.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
So they getting rid of rip Skype Dog.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
They just shut it down. They no one's ever fumbled
a bag the way they fumbled that bag.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Yes, they had a three to one lead.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Yeap.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Jen gives us our first voicemail on the voicemail.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Line run and Karen, It's Jen. Hope you're having a
great weekend. Thank you for all the episodes this week.
I love them as always. I was listening to an
episode this week about the Meo products and I was
gagged because I had heard about this hair loss issue

(01:19:43):
and I had some products here that I stopped using.
Then when I heard your episode, I was like, Wow,
that was all a scam. This is crazy. So I
was like, let me look it up, let me see
what's going on. I think I saw the same like
shade Roum article, and so I like read the article
and then I went to the Shade Room Instagram and

(01:20:03):
the comments were out of control. So I was like, okay,
I can use the products again. It was just all scammed.
But then the comments were like no baby, my cousin
lost all her hair, like my hair was falling out,
this and this and that. So now I'm like, I'm
not going to chance it. I don't know if it's
just gotten too far, but I don't want to risk it.
I didn't have any issues, but to be honest, when

(01:20:24):
I was using I only use it for maybe like
a few months. I have locks too, so it's.

Speaker 10 (01:20:28):
Like this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
It's not like a whole lock's gonna come out my
head from an oil or something like that. But I
just don't want to chance it. But the comments were crazy.
They said, baby, you can't pay a whole comments section.
It was really funny. So I'm gonna see it clear.
I mean, those products are probably gonna stay on the
shelf for now. I found some other good ones that

(01:20:49):
I like, so it's all good. But I just thought
that was funny. It's still interesting that it's coming out
that somebody was paid to do that, because I mean,
that's what an influencer is, regardless of they're talking about
the product in a negative or positive way. But I'm
gonna see it clear for now. You guys are great,
have a great weekend. Bye bye.

Speaker 6 (01:21:09):
And so all that means is that if what they
said is false, the propaganda worked, like you call him
in going, I'm not gonna take.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
The chance, never never never.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Yeah, you know that's kind of the that's kind that's
the point.

Speaker 6 (01:21:25):
And then the damage is done regardless of that's the thing.
And I do understand your perspective because regardless if it's
true or not, there's there's nothing that she could say,
even if she's telling the truth that this person was paid.
Once that ship gets out there, it can literally tank
your your your preputation, and your product.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
And black women are not feeling to be playing with
their hair. So you know, uh, that's you know, that's
a non starter. Like if it's just just even a
five percent chance the shit gonna fuck your hair up,
like black women, like, I'm good on that then, And
so when you're saying like make people's hair fall out
and stuff like, that's a non starter. So I like,

(01:22:07):
I definitely feel y'all not taking a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Man. That's just sad for her. If she's telling the truth, right,
that's my thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
If they can't know for sure, but if she but
if she's telling the truth, man, that that's satisfying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
And also the other sad part about it, regardless of
who makes the product and things that that all products
ain't made for everybody's hair and everybody doesn't always have
a great experience, you know, just just period anyway, and
so these may have been people that you know, not
not that everybody's lying, that just may not have had
a great experience with the product, and so you know,
this was just an excuse for a lot of them

(01:22:41):
to just come out and shit on something, you know,
a product that and I get it that did not
work for them in their hair for whatever reasons, you know,
but for for a large wouldn't be surprise for large
percentage of people to use the product they don't have
a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Well, you just wouldn't. You just can't put shit past
anybody on the Internet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
I think more important than anything she would say it
on our thing is our ecosystem of influencers as commercials
is not as consistent and restricted, not even restricted, but
as monitored for truth and reliability as some of our
other vehicles.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
But right they don't have any boundaries, any ruds, regulations,
They don't have any anythings they must follow, no checklists
or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Nobody holds them accountable.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
But in a world where our commercials are very much
the same in some ways, it can feel that way.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
But uh, you know, I would hope and guess, but
you just never know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
But I would hope that if she made it into
Target and people were buying her products in mass you
would hope that it's not like making people's hair fall
out and the only people that are talking about it
are paid influencers.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
You know in the comments section. You hope I don't
know all right? Next voicemail, Roddy hearn what's good?

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
I wanted to give a quick shout out and get
some feedback from the feedback show with a frame of
reference on the guy that called in that said he
damned killed hisself after they can and so on in
a second a couple of weeks ago. I usually don't
get into people's relationships, but I'm gonna get into yours.
It's been weird to listen to as a longtime listener,
to listen to so many people comment on how you

(01:24:23):
and Karen get down on the show, but almost insinuate
different things about the relationship. The bottom line is to
be with somebody for fifteen years, it's hard to have
a successful business, especially a podcast for fifteen years shows
how rocks out of the relationship is. And the bottom
line is managers called to said I love the factor
and love the way that you quote unquote off of
those individuals feedback and tell them to mind the on

(01:24:46):
damn business. So the bottom line is keep eating the
haters and keep doing what you'all doing appreciate you'all both.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Thank you, thank you baby.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
And it's a fine line because, like I do recognize
that it's a or a social relationship, and I do
recognize that we are putting ourselves out there in some
ways that allow people to speculate on the dynamic that
we have and you know, to comment on this public
product and all this stuff. And so maybe I'm a

(01:25:16):
hypocrite for trying to have it both ways, but to
some extent, regardless of how they may feel about it,
this is still the person I'm sharing every day of
my life with and you're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Some motherfucking respect, that's all. That's all. We're not telling
nobody they have to like the show of what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
But if you take the time to write up here,
we're gonna take the time to listen and read it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
But at the same time to leave the shade at
the at the crib, Like, don't don't come in here
with the half fast half cock coming into our house
just talking shit because I don't play like that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
No, And you know it's one of them things.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
You can't come in my house and I fuck your
couch and think I'm just gonna be like, oh, it's
all good, you're being cute.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
No bitch, I'm gonna have something to say.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
You're in my house, right, So it's just, you know,
if you think you can do a better job, starts
a podcast, and maybe you're right, but my guess is
you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
And you know, don't be weird. That's it. It just
seemed like an easy thing, but sometimes people just be
weird for no reason. And mine left the last voicemail.

Speaker 10 (01:26:25):
Hey Rock, Hey Karen, it's emon. It's been a while,
but I'm looking forward to watching the playbackup show. I
couldn't watch why because it was.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
The first night of Hmadonna and so we were doing
other things.

Speaker 10 (01:26:37):
But I'm really excited to watch it with my husband later.
But one thing, because I keep forgetting to call in
about it, because it's been getting all my nerves every
time someone writes or calls in about Karen, and it's
episodes ago, probably like from earlier this month.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Or wait, mar let me just pause right there. It's
never too late to go up for care. Okay, I
will grant you guys a time exemption. Okay, I don't
care if it's been a year.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Because everybody be catching up in certain periods of time.
But I don't just say nothing about my Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
You know, and you know why I say that specifically,
because it's never too late for these fucking haters, right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
Oh, they will find that that woman that wrote.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
That last one was on vacation, she missed the episode.
She's catching up, and here she go with an uninformed,
unwanted opinion. So you know what, yo informed and wanted opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
If it's a little if you think it's a little late, it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Ain't time now.

Speaker 10 (01:27:38):
So it's earlier in February when this episode happened where.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
Karen made a point and you're like, oh, that's a
really good point, Karen. I changed my mind, and that
stuck with me because every time since then people kept
writing or calling in talking about Karen. I'm like, she
makes points and all the time changes Rod's mind.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
It's like, and you, I think I pause in them
one more time. Sorry. I wonder if it's because I
don't really have much of an ego about changing my mind.
Do they feel like and you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
Make a demand, don't mean yeah, or do they just
feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Like they like what they want to fight? So did
I have to be like, damn, I lost.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I'm very easy, Like in general, I'm like I feel
strongly about things, but I'm pretty like, Okay, new information
ain't shit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
I just don't why would I be hung up on it.
I don't know everything and I'm not perfect and I
can't possibly know everything. It really is not a big
deal to change my fucking mind is when presented with
new information. The same way that just because I present
someone new information doesn't mean I'm like dunking on them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Sometimes it's just like, oh, but you thought about this,
so anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
I just I wonder if I'm supposed to be like
defeated and then they be like, you know what, can
bringing a lot to the show today?

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Rid damn their cry? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
Also, also, I think that people view arguments differently, and
I think when it comes to people quote unquote not
seeing out that I have an argument because a lot
of people, in my personal opinion, they treat arguments as

(01:29:19):
a as a win lose, not always a compromise, and
not always coming to a consensus, particularly in relationships. So
they figure out it always has to be a winner,
it always has to be a loser. You know, I'm
keeping tallies, I'm keeping points and things like that. A
lot of people look at arguments as I'm raising my voice.
I'm gonna flex my muscles, I'm gonna demand certain things.

(01:29:42):
I'm gonna call you out your name. And if you
don't do these things that I've been taught from various
different places in my environment. If you don't do these things,
y'all are not arguing. If you don't do I think.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Also a lot of these people you listen to the show,
and maybe they think there's a point that they would
have made or something, you know, like but uh tooth
and comments. In the chat, Mary says, maybe Rod needs
some Rod changes my music.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
That's a great point, and we might need that. We
might need that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
We might need to make a note every single time
that my mind has changed so that we can be like,
this is what other not just caring other people bring
to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
It's not the Rod monologue every week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
And then the other thing is Tony said, Bro, don't
overthink it is fucking misogyny.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Agree. I agree. I'm not to me it's that simple.
But I'm willing to entertain like it's it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I'm willing to think of like why is the misogyny
being triggered here, or why is the what is this about?
Like Karen that needs to have a fucking like thing.
I'm I'm recognizing and respecting her opinion. I'm treating it,
and I'm not like pandering. I'm not doing the fake
thing that people do where it's like I want to
look like a good husband, so I'm gonna pretend that

(01:30:57):
she's making a good point. No, she Whenever I think
she's saying something I don't understand, I'm like, can you explain.
Whenever she's saying something where you know I disagree, I
try to be like, oh, this is what I think
instead of that, like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
It's not even anything fakes, what's crazy?

Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
It's all.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
If there was no camera, if there was no recording. Still,
these are the conversations we have now. Part of it
is buoyed in a love and respect and years of
understanding each other agree to. Where there's certain things I
think if I was talking to a stranger or a friend,
or a colleague or a coworker, maybe I wouldn't even
broke certain topics with them, because motherfuckers be so goddamn

(01:31:37):
sensitive you can't even be like, can you explain that
without them being like, what the fuck you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
I gotta explain.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
But in general, it's like we're having these conversations because
it is a healthy place to have these conversations.

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
Yes, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:49):
And also now I'm a lot more animated than Roger
as far as like the inflection of my boys and
things like that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
And also I think because you're more soft spoken to.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
A lot of people try to come at you, you know,
because of that, because you know and like that. But
it's just at the end of the day, it's one
of the things where me and Roderick love each other
and I not try me funny and maybe I'm flexing
my muscles. I'm sorry you have a dysfunctional vision of
view of what an argument is and how you think

(01:32:24):
you should treat your spouse and mate. Because everybody has
their own different perspectives on how these things are viewed.
But in my life and my perspective, as you grow
and as you mature, and for me personally, I love Roger.
I don't want to argue with Roger and I don't
want debate with him. Every time I open up the
door and go outside this house, it is a world

(01:32:45):
that I have to fucking fight. I personally refuse to
come home and fight you too, Nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
I refuse. If I gotta come and fight you, bitch,
I will be alone.

Speaker 6 (01:32:57):
Your house has got to be a place of pa
and you have to have enough respect and enough understanding,
enough compassion, enough consideration for the person or people that
you choose to be with and have understanding to their
feelings and emotions, and open up yourself enough to look
at another perspective outside of yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
You are not always right. You do not know the answers.
You can only view things from your perspective and the
life that you live.

Speaker 6 (01:33:24):
But when you're interacting with a whole nother ass human being,
you have to understand they're not gonna see it like
you do. They cannot read your mind. They do not
know what you're gonna do all the time. You have
to use your words and be an adult and have
hard ass conversation that you don't want to have about
whatever the thing is going on in your life.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
People don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:46):
These are things that you need to do, baby, Go
to therapy, therapists, get your medication, whatever you need to do,
and a lot of this is you taking all these
things in your life and reflecting them back on me
and my husband, like it is my problem is not
you are the one with the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
You are the one that need to seek whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
Because consultation that you need to get yourself in a
peaceful place where you wouldn't think twice about me and
my relationship.

Speaker 8 (01:34:16):
Facts Well, she doesn't always say.

Speaker 9 (01:34:19):
Sometimes you might not say, oh I change my mind.

Speaker 10 (01:34:23):
You just press the sound.

Speaker 9 (01:34:24):
You're like karend Knowing or Opius third Die and then
you're just adding to the show.

Speaker 8 (01:34:30):
But it's really just beinging on my nerves every time
someone does that. I'm just like, do people not understand
how people talk to each other?

Speaker 9 (01:34:37):
It's just like people make points or sometimes Karen is
making a completely different point than you were making, and
you have to explain what the point is that you
were making, and then that's why she changes her mind.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
It's just a normal back and forth conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:34:52):
And I don't understand, like.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
People don't understand how folks talk to each other.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
It's like, especially people who love each other and talk
to each other.

Speaker 8 (01:34:57):
And I don't know, it's just want to call in
and say that so yes, I hope y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:35:03):
Have a great show.

Speaker 8 (01:35:04):
I'm really excited about watching this and say bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
That's a big one for me too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Is like a lot of I think people definitely get
fucked up because people don't always do this, but this
is the way my brain works. A lot of times
when someone is trying to make a different point than
the one I'm making and we're having a conversation, I
like to recognize to them and me that I know
they're making a different point, and if they realize it

(01:35:40):
or not, they I want them to know, like, this
is not specifically what I'm addressing. That doesn't invalidate what
you're addressing. But these are two different points. And because
we don't like go over the show together before we start,
that's gonna happen a lot because I our minds think differently.
So I could be like, oh, I was in the

(01:36:02):
buffet line the other day and I know this blank
and Karen's like, you know what I hate about buffets
is this?

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Those are two different points.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
It doesn't mean that's where I was going with mine,
and it doesn't mean we can't talk about that, but
I just want to recognize and I think sometimes people
even see that as a disagreement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
It's like, I'm not disagreeing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
I am separating this so that we don't even have
to That's not about agreeing or disagreement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
It's just that's a different thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Here's what I mean specifically, And I just communicate that
way because I find that to be healthier and more
efficient to communicate that way than to do the thing
where I hear a lot of people do, where you
especially a lot of people who have a lot of arguments,
you hear in the conversation where the split occurs where

(01:36:48):
one person was thinking about one thing totally valid, another
person bought up a different thing totally valid, and they
just started going back and forth, and they weren't really
having the same conversation anymore, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
So it's like, if, for example, if it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
I'm talking about people running stop signs and you're talking
about people running traffic lights, seems like a small thing,
that little moment five minutes from now, we could be
at each other's throats and we have stopped talking about
the same shit five minutes ago. I hear it happened
so often in most podcasts, especially like the ones where

(01:37:24):
people will like arguing, like sports and fucking like nerd
shit and stuff where they like to argue. That's the
point where you're just like, wait, y'all are two reasonable people.
Y'all probably agree more than disagree. But if you stop
it and go, wait a minute, y'all are talking about
two different things, you know. And I study this kind
of stuff for, you know, like just in my recreational time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
One of the reason I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Still like watching sports talk is because it's frivolous, but
it's a very good place to learn about rhetorical argument
techniques and how people debate and how people think. And
I like to dissect it to be like, oh, steven
A pulled a slight of hand. They were talking about
people that are the face of the NBA being the
most criticized, and he turned it into and criticism is

(01:38:10):
nothing but comparing people to the old school, which is
honoring the new school. But that's not what they're saying.
They're not talking about comparison. He turned criticism into comparison
instead of saying, when I'm going in and making angry
rants about Lebron James, those are things I never did

(01:38:31):
during Lebron During Michael Jordan's time period, because these type.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Of shows didn't even exist in that way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
So these new stars are dealing with a level of
criticism that is not anything that Michael Jordan had to
deal with. We've always compared stars, right, We've always said
Kareem Abdul Jabbar's numbers are this, and shacks numbers are that.
That's not what he's talking about. But if you successfully
do that slight of hand, most people will watch that

(01:38:59):
segment be very off at Steven Ay, but they will
not recognize when he did the slight of hand early on,
like he switched what we were talking about into these
guys are just bitches that don't want to hear nobody
like say anything negative about them. That kind of thing
is what I think about, and I think about it
when we do our show, and that's why it comes
up so often where it's like, oh, this is what's

(01:39:20):
happening right now. I'm not I'm not seeking to dominate
or be dominated. I'm seeking to be effectively understood, and
I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
The same from you.

Speaker 6 (01:39:28):
And also something else that I realized when it comes
to a lot of times of people are having arguments
and debates, so even just disagreements.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
People just want to be acknowledged.

Speaker 6 (01:39:38):
And I think some a lot of times people have
these conversations and they're not in good faith. And because
they're not in good faith, like I've disagreed with people before,
and I will repeat back what they said to be
sure I understood it, and then I will like, I
acknowledge what you're saying, but understand what I'm saying also,
and then I will go on with my point to

(01:39:59):
let them know that, because most people just want to
be heard.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
And a lot of times when you start talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:40:04):
Arguments and debates and disagreements, people always look at it
from a negative perspective. It is not always a negative thing.
People look at conflict because it's a form of a
conflict quote unquote for most people. So when people look
at something as a conflict, they look at conflict as
a negative thing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
Conflict is not a bad thing because sometimes you can.

Speaker 6 (01:40:23):
Talk, have different perspectives, even have a conflict and still
come out better or come out, you know, seeing a
different perspective, or come out challenging yourself or even being
a better person, depends on how deeper where the conversation goes,
or even having more respect for that person when you go, oh,
I did not know that you knew this or or

(01:40:43):
that person, showing you sometimes that they actually respect you,
you know, because I think a lot of times, like
I said, when people see it, they always look at
it as wins and losses plus and minds rights.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
I think good faith is the is the thing that
people just don't They don't understand it, right, they don't.
They don't understand that all our conversations are underpanned by
good faith. Yes, so they so for them, it's just hard.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
It's you know, and I don't blame them in a
world full of so much bad faith actors where when
someone does ask a question it is like a setup
to to try to disrespect you or something, you know
what I mean, When when somebody does raise their voices
because they they're yelling at you, you know, I definitely
can feel why people would do that. But but a

(01:41:33):
lot of it is misogyny, as Tony said, because you
know what, no one ever writes saying.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
About what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
And I'm not saying they should. I don't want them to,
but it's funny that no one ever notices or says it.
When Karen is yelling into the microphone very intensely. No
one ever writes in in well like Karen, can you
stop yelling at Rod or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
No one misunderstands that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
That could just be she's yelling and y'all don't want
the smoke, so y'all was like, let me leave her alone.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
But it is funny that over three.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Thousand episodes, no one's ever been like, damn, maybe maybe
Ryder is afraid to disagree with his wife.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
It's always she's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Afraid to twice ride, right, That's how you know it's
massag It's always she's afraid to disagree with me. I'm
normally the one talking pretty calm and being jovial. She
the one that be going off on motherfuckers and yelling
and shit, if anyone's in here trying to make sure
that their opinions is walking on fucking eggshells, shouldn't it
be me?

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
What the fuck are y'all talking about? Shouldn't be me?
She agree with him? Maybe I agree with her. Maybe
that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Maybe why can't I be the one with the fake
opinions that's just trying to be like, maybe I'm the
one that don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Be abused when the mic turned out money ever considered that, No,
they didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
Not you misogynistic motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
All right, last segment emails, It's like, I feel like

(01:43:26):
I can't played that one before. First emails from Sid
shout to Sid, she's in the chat. Got me fucked up?
Is the title, Karen, you a classy ass niggas an areas.
I can't believe you not eating these stupid bitches for lunch,
probably because your husband actually loves you and you mind
your business, and it shows I'm not classy like you, Karen.
I'm a capricorn crash out and they got us fucked up?

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Speak for me each and every episode.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
That's another thing too I think people don't recognize is
like we speak four and two different people. Sometimes we do,
and a lot of times when I'm either quiet or
not trying to interrupt or just kind of like moving
out of the way and letting you complete your full thought.
It's because it's not every fucking thing on the show.
For me, it's a conversation, but not really, it's a

(01:44:15):
conversation and also partially just us getting our thoughts out right.
So if people think the only way to communicate is
the way I communicate. Then that's then you're a silly motherfucker's.

Speaker 6 (01:44:27):
And that's on you, Like, that's silly, It one hundred
percent is. And Also I think for me because I
know I really do have a very fiery personality kind
of you know, my energy level and stuff could be
high in my when I'm angry, I'm slow to I

(01:44:51):
try my best to be slow to anger, like to
really angry. You know, like a lot of times what
y'all hear is not anger. What y'all hear is just
a lot of times more than frustration and things like that.
Y'all have heard anger on here, don't get me wrong,
But like when I am like angry, angry, uh, it's
not a mental place that I like to be. So

(01:45:13):
I try my best to be very rational and very
logical about it, you know, about a lot of things,
because what I've realized about emotions, emotions, particularly anger, can
give you the illusion of control that you actually don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Also, sometimes you need to hear the same shit different ways.
It might reach somebody through caring that I wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Able to reach and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Agreed, Like I don't like, Yeah, we agree on a
lot of shit, but sometimes the way you agree in
the things you say just reach different people. Starting with
the beautiful Southern accent and impeccable and frequent use of nigga,
The way you cut through people's shit and consistently remind
them that the South is the source of black resistance
and black political power, that we are not stupid. And
the way you are so confident and comfortable being you,

(01:45:55):
doing you, showing up and knowing you carry all that
ass whatever whether they see or not, because it's back there.
Because you can't fool you can't fool of booty detective.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
And not the one detective. And that's hilarious, real.

Speaker 6 (01:46:09):
The grace you're arriving teaming up.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
I'm just saying we probably follow out the same I G. Accounts.
I don't know, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
The grace and the mercy you bestowing these corny motherfuckers
should be studied, never without a smile of joke or
hey baby, the type of woman you can only find
below the Mason baby, and she did the fingernail he emoji,
thank you baby. I honestly feel bad that they don't
see your brilliance, but I'm glad I found you and
will always be a fan. You have taught me and
affirmed me, and most of all, you always make me last.

(01:46:37):
So fuck they nasty as the pins watch your mouth?
Will you talk about one of QC's finest three mad
huffing the smoke out of the nose angry emojis?

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
Yes, agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
That's the other reason sometimes I'll read those things because
I'll be like the audience Finn go inuz Overrod.

Speaker 5 (01:46:56):
Y'all know me. I don't be bothering nobody. I mind
my being in this.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
I like, literally don't be bother nobody. And I tell
people I don't decide even in real life. I tell
people i'd be like, if you don't like me, baby,
I am not the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
It is one hundred percent you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Uh, let's see. Ada Bola says, Hey, this is out
of Bola.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Thanks so much for recommending the nine the number one
hundred eleven Mahogany antique candle. Oh yeah, fan got that
on the Amazon wish list.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Yo, that's the bet. That is top two candles I've
ever smelled. Top two, okay, number one, and it's between pineapple,
the pineapple cake joint from the d W candle. You fine.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Yeah, it was like pineapple upside down birthday. It was
like three different weird things mixed. That was goddamn, that
candle is good, and then uh that mahogany and teak
though nah they I see why I cost so much.
I that's why I put it on the wish list.
I can't afford to be getting them candles all the time.
But listen, that person hooked me up. I said, damn,

(01:48:08):
I bought this expensive ass to me. Nigga to everybody, Okay,
that candle.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
Was at least two eggs. I bought this expensive ass
to me cand off Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
It was well worth. It smell so good. I made
joel Off rice yesterday and my house smelled like it. Sense,
I don't like that. I don't want my house smelling
like food.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
I feel conflicted about that because like, on the one hand,
if my food be smelling good and it's banging, I
do like I do like opening the door and being
like I made this, I'm responsible for the smell. It
smells so delicious. But also like if I ate the
food already now, I'm just hungry for what I had made.
And it's like I don't want my house smelling like.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
Food.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
I cannot have access to it this moment.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
It was it's lit when the Joel Off is in
there steal in the fridge. You can just my awave it.
It's not lit when it's like Nigga Joe lof day
was Tuesday. It's Thursday. We back to Ramen pride.

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
On this bitch, right, We're back to the budgets, like
just just.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Taking a bite and sniffing the air, hoping it the
taste transfer through the smoke. Uh, it's lit.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
I lit this candle up the day and it smells
like mahogany and teaking. This bitch definitely worth the price.
Love y'all's recommendations. Also, you also recommended Vinlin Saga four
score and seven weeks ago. Oh yeah, that was all.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
Villain Saga is great. I think they coming out with
another season.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Yes, that last season legitimately, no Joe, I cried. Yes,
that was one of the best episodes that like near
the finale. Yes, that was one of the best episodes
of all time. And I cannot believe the character arc
that they they gave that character. I cannot, Oh my gods.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
But the thing I love about Vinlin saga is is
one of the few. It's kind of as simple. I
think you said, the same team, maybe the same season
that did Attack on Titans, right, And you can tell
from when he was a little boy to ask the
character goes into an adult. The the way that they

(01:50:11):
make the animation emote like, I can't explain it. It's
unreal because like whenever they feelings are intense, You're like,
oh my gosh, whatever you're feeling, baby, I believe that you.
I like like you almost like a real person jumped
off the screen. That shit is beautiful and it will.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
It takes so many chances. It's an anime that can
go from like an Attack on Titan action heavy to
some of the dramatic beats of the next season and
still be as compelling.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Like I never when the action stopped. I never thought,
now I'm bored. When are they gonna fight? Nope, I
just followed that journey of that character. It's so good,
and I know you're gonna somebody catching them hands again
before the story just yesterday. I'm just not gonna know
who they fucking with. But the fact that I truly
felt a sense of that character change.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Oh my god, what a show.

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
Yes, sir, I can't wait till next seat. Like you said,
somebod walk up over him. I'm like, oh, bitch, you
don't know who you bounce.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
I mean, and honestly, at this point I could see
his way that you walk up on him, and he
isn't just gonna respond in con but it's.

Speaker 5 (01:51:22):
The fact that we know he got it like that
if he wants to. Yeah, what a show?

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Why should I love it? Thanks y'all, no problem, and
I'm glad you enjoyed that number one eleven. Soy Candle
at the dark Mahogany.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Teak because that shit is hitting. Shout out to Lulu
Candle's Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Profess Corey Caretha says, dear dear Rod, I hope this
message finds you well. I just had to drop a
note and say how freaking fabulous your coon countdown coop down.

Speaker 5 (01:51:52):
Is done, wrapped it up for the month.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
I got one more to go. I'm on day twenty eight.
Yesterday were so busy I didn't have time to record. Okay,
I will finish it today and you guys will see
who the number one cone is a masterful combination of
humor and incisive cultural critique. You're right that it's something
most of us can't share too pokely, but you're also
right about how much we appreciate it, so they'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
First of all, I'm pretty sure they suppressed it on
Twitter this year because everybody was like, I didn't even
see it this year, and I'm like, I've done it
on Twitter every day.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
I made it a thread.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
I just thought maybe people wasn't feeling it as much.
But you know, I've been telling y'all elon Muskin and
run Twitter. They don't want certain shit getting out.

Speaker 6 (01:52:34):
Yeah, and now they were purposely not allowed to naturally
flourish on his own.

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
They keep it out of most people's timeline.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Which is fine. I'm not beholding any of these platforms.
TikTok is still doing well. People still love it on TikTok.
But the big shocker was Instagram. My instagramgree up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Instagram sent me a message and made me get two
factor authentication because they said I am now an account
that reaches too many people. Oh so like, I you know,
I guess somebody might want to hack me now that
I'm out here calling these people coons and people sharing it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:05):
So yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Shout out to the people on Instagram. They really enjoyed
the coontent. Congratulations to you and Karen on another live show.
That's a gift to us too.

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
I hope your.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Experience of it is everything you want more it was.
It was great. Like I said, I will get the
people the recording.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
I'll figure out the audio thing on on both sides
so that we get some really good audio or at
least at least passed. I won't say I do want
to overcome over promise, but passible enough audio for y'all
to have enjoyed the replay of it, and that may
take a few days. Like I said, it normally takes
a few days for ballto to like get that because
like a three camera set up, they got to do

(01:53:46):
a bunch of shit before him to get that together.
And then I can you know see how that works out.
But thank you and wish you could have been there,
but I know you was. You stay in demand, booked
the busy. One of these days you're gonna make it
down and we're gonna get to hug your face. Last
one is TGIF from Amy who says hello, Rod and

(01:54:08):
Karen wanted to say, I've been listening to show since
I started listening to Ride on Foolish since Friday. Really
love your podcast. It's really refreshing and entertaining take on
daily news stories. I will be attending the live show
via zoom Friday, really looking.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
I also wanted to mention about the President and Grifter.
Be careful to make sure it was that is he
was found liable for sexual abuse. I only mention it
in case these dumb ass people who listen to support
that Grifter stay safe and thanks for the last can't
wait till Friday. Oh yes, I see what you said,
because he sued the news organization, although I think they

(01:54:40):
just copped out, But whatever, I feel you. I don't
want to smoke with the fucking would getting sued by
the president either. But also, you know, we do a
comedy show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
A lot of stuff is covered under the comedy license
so in parody, so we got that going for us.
But uh, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:55:01):
I thought. I think I've been pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
Good about not calling him directly a rapist, because I
think that's what he sued about. Not that I'm not
that I'm concerned or cared that much about I don't
think we're on his radar being sued, but like, uh so,
I'm pretty sure that I have not called him that.
I think I've been able to say, like he's been

(01:55:26):
found lib of sexual harassment sexual assault, which I believe
he was. Uh So, let me just make sure that
that's right. But yeah, I thought he was found convicted
of that. Uh uh, it's funny sexual abuse.

Speaker 6 (01:55:47):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
It's funny because Snigga got thirty four feelings I forgot,
not that I forgot. He was a feeling I forgot,
like when you go when I went to go google
Trump found guilty, it was like his thirty three other
things too.

Speaker 5 (01:56:02):
I'm like, oh, that is right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
We just let this shit be in charge of the country.
We don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Sure, yes, sexual abuse is what he was found guilty of.
I guess the verdict was split, finding him responsible for
a lesser.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Degree of sexual abuse. Sexual He's a sexual abuser is
what he's been found guilty of. So you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
I'll try not to do anything that's gonna get us
suit because y'all like this show, and y'all wanted to
stay on the air, and I do too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
I want to be in court wasting my fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Time, all right, Although I think maybe I'm just an
asshole like this, but I honestly, if forced to retract,
I have no problem retracting something like that because I
feel like y'all would look me right in the eyes
and go, I know this nigga just don't feel like
going to court. Like y'all, I don't think anybody would

(01:56:50):
be like, yeah, man, he clearly thinks Trump innocent. They
just be like this nigga just said whatever I gotta
say to just stay out of court, your freaky ass nigga,
and just get back to my podcast, right anyway, all right, y'all,
thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
Oh yes, the gifts, thank you, Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
I'm meant to mention also, we still have these posters
that we have, Like a lot of these are left.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
I don't know what we're gonna do, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
I'm not doing what I did last time, where y'all
just send us your address and I paid all this
money to buy special poster holders and mail them out,
mostly because that's a lot of work for me and
also cost a lot of money. So I have to
figure something else out, Like maybe we'll do some type
of sell, like sell them somehow if that's something people

(01:57:40):
are interested in, right, and I have to figure out
a price.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
Point where we won't lose money selling them.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
What by the time we pay for the postage and
the whole the thing that holds it and the labels
and all that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
I'm guessing ten dollars, but that might not be right.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
So but let me if you're interested in it, you know,
I'll figure out a way to like what you can
sell a venmo mere or some shit, and we'll send
it over.

Speaker 5 (01:58:07):
Yeah, figure out the math, figure out how much everything calls.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Yeah, all right, let's see. We got some stuff that
people handed.

Speaker 5 (01:58:13):
Us at the live show last year, ye in our hands.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Yeah, so people were like coming with gifts and cars
and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
This is a card, says the Boston Ducklings. Look at
them ducks.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
On the inside, it says it's from Stephanie from Boston,
who says Rod and Karen, thank you for being the
inspiration and motivation during my tough days. The Blackoutist family
and the world is better because of you both hard
emoji thanks Stephanie from Boston. Stephanie, I remember her because
she I feel like I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
Meet a lot of black people from Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
So I was like, look at this, y'all exist, and
y'all cool, okay, And I'm sorry the Calves put the
screws to you last night. But you know, Jason Tatum
shouldn't have been talking that shit.

Speaker 5 (01:58:59):
He know what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
I think she said she don't follow basketball anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:59:03):
Oh not my hero, Oh not my hero Academia.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Yes, my hero.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
It's from MSS Barnes. I should have known, dear Rod
and Carroll.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
I remember that day in the December twenty eighteen when
I was on a road trip to Georgia and needed
a podcast to listen to. Per my friend, I think
this is Conna. She suggested you, and I was looking
through episodes. I saw that you did walking down everycast.
I listened to recasts as well as the other shows.
Now it's twenty twenty five and I'm here for my

(01:59:36):
third live show. Yes, she was listen. I'm gonna tell
you this, if we do something in North Carolina, MS
Barn's gonna be there.

Speaker 6 (01:59:46):
I don't know how she be doing it. I appreciate
we was at the library. She popped up on us
at the library. She was like, okay, at the library.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
She gonna be at THEA Vince, She's gonna have her
gear on. Okay, is she gonna come get this hug?

Speaker 5 (01:59:59):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
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blessed us listeners with. Please enjoy this bubbly courtesy of
McBride sisters and excellent black owned winery.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
Miss Barnes. So she must have been the person that
gave us this. Uh it's got like a little fancy
ribbon on it. Poll that shit off like some lingerie.
We love a sexy wine. Okay. Always called black girl
Magic sparkling Bubbly. There you go by the McBride's sisters

(02:00:35):
from California. Black girl magic is more than a phrase.
It's a feeling, a look, a taste. Listen, we've all
wanted to taste the black girl magic around here. We
all know we staying one.

Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
Black girl Magic Collection is our black girl logic.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
Collection is an ode to our culture and story inspired
by the magic and resilience of black women, to be
enjoyed by all.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Thank you. Yes, then we got uh this bag of
black bag. We love a black bag.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
It's so funny as you get older, it's like all
the guts stuff coming in black bags.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
Oh, I can't say what these are, but thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:01:20):
You know who you are.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
Thank you. Oh they would be good for the good youth.
Oh look at this, Look at this car with this puppy,
like a super puppy coming out of explosion, like an
impossible white man puppy coming out of a volcano.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Or something like you just destroyed Doctor Evils Layer. Yes,
riding Karen, You're like an awesome explosion of awesome. Congrats
on the live show, guys, wishing you both continue success.
Enjoy the gift piece, Micah And I think this is
glazier or is it clazier a laser michaeh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Y'all know who y'all is. Thank you, and we will
enjoy these. We will keep the cards, we will share it.

Speaker 6 (02:02:00):
Oh yeah, I put it with the rest of my
forty five hundred cars like a old grandma.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
I'll be holding on everything.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
And then I got this glass thing that seeing gave
me that I think I need instructures for. Uh, so
I'll just I'll wait, I'll wait the DM or the
email on what to do with that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
So I don't want to hurt myself.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
All right, that's it, man, Thank y'all for listening. We
are definitely taking this week off. We have you know,
we had a good time. I feel like, you know,
after the live show, it's a good time for.

Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
Like a little break, little reset.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
Hopefully everybody got that information up top about the premium
and the live show video stuff and the audio. I'll
make sure to get that to everybody throughout this week,
so I appreciate all y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
And it was man, it was so fun to see y'all.
It's so fun to be able to be a show
that can do that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
And honestly, man, I'm so proud and honored to have
the fan base that we have, your family and community
we've created because look, your faves could never unless your
face is us than your faves did.

Speaker 5 (02:03:09):
All right, y'all, till next time, I love you. I
love you.

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