3064: The Backup Quarterback of the Country

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because
Rod and Karen are hont Hey, welcome to another episode
of the Black Gut to his podcast. I'm your host,
Rod join us, always want my co host, and we're
live on a Saturday morning, ready to do feedback. That's
when we talk about the things that you said to us,
like back to us, the nerve of you to talk

(00:22):
back to us. And I'm just kidding. That's when you
talk about what you guys had to say about what
we had to say throughout the week. Just reminder, we
still do have posters if people want to get them,
I'm sure on the next show we do, that's a
regular show we'll have. We'll tell you all about our
visit to the Post dollar v is fucking insane, Yes

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it was. But the shout out to y'all that paid
above and beyond the fifteen dollars though, because we needed
that shit that day, because it costs more than we thought.
But we got a plan now, I think we got
a streamline. Anyway, if you want posters fifteen dollars minimum,
just email me. The black Out tis a Gmail. I
need your mail and address and all that stuff. I

(01:04):
think that's it for us show up keeping this stuff. Oh,
we have a new link to our Tea Public store.
It'll be in these show notes and all this stuff.
They're moving Tea Public to like a different like whatever,
and the new design is in the store. So our
new design is, uh the keep that Sane Energy. Come on,

(01:25):
keep Energy. Yeah, and so if you guys want to
get that shirt, the link is already in our on
our Instagram page and for merch but I'll make sure
to put it everywhere else so that you know, you
guys get the new link to the to the new stuff.

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But yeah, it's keep that Sane Energy as a shirt
and I'll show you preview what it looks like. But
that's that's the shirt right there. Of course you can
get in all these different colors and all this different stuff.
Uh so whatever whatever you guys want to wear. But
uh yeah, keep that keep that saying energy. When we

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said it on the show was like that that's a shirt.
So all right, let's see feedback stuff. The official weapon
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Speaker 2 (02:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
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We're now listening to Charlotton, Rod and Karen.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
You welcome the good folks who tied to the black Tivy.

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some money in our pockets. All right, let's get into

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five star reviews. We got I believe one, two new ones.
We love five star reviews. You go to Apple podcasts,
you leave us five stars. You're making nice, Okay. We
don't like responding to mean things, so you make it
nice and we read it on the air and it
just keeps that love going back and forth and it's

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and it's awesome for us.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Even if you ain't got an Apple device. You ain't
got no excuses. Now, yeah, you can do it on
the website. You don't even need to have an Apple device.
All right, let's get into these two new reviews Karen
be Knowing by craft At, who says.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Five stars, purple heart emoji. Thank you. That's all we need,
Karen do be Knowing? All right, it's a great title.
The next one is Amazing five stars by Jody Singing,
who says, what up?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
What up?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Jody? What? Me and my son had an amazing time
at the live show. He got picked to pick a segment.
We came from Washington State, originally from Fairville. This show
has kept me connected to my blackness and my sanity
for ten years now. Y'all have taught me, inspired me,
and kept me informed. I appreciate y'all. Wow Washington straight,

(05:57):
Oh my god, we've been there before. And that's a yeah.
That's a that's a flight. Yeah that is a long flight. Yeah. Wow.
Thank y'all for coming to see us. That's you know,
it's humbling, it really is. And I love a family
that listens together because they stay together, you know. All right,
Let's get into the actual show episodes on our website,

(06:24):
the blackoutips dot com. We'll start with the first episode
three five eight, good Faith, which was our feedback episode
after we did the live show. Apple says, I never
write negative comments or me emails. I believe a person
is what they put out into the world. I want
to be positive, constructive, and reflective and a reflected person

(06:45):
because I'm also human and sometimes I get mad. I
stopped listening to have conversations in my head with the host.
That's the best I have. I really like Keith and
the girl, but the show without him, that doesn't work
for me. I still wish to show success and I'm
thankful for the good times. Well, you know, Keith listens
to it this, so I feel like if you didn't
want to put anything negative into the world, then you
probably just put.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Something negative.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
In the game for no reason. It shots fired. You
could have you could have just not listening and he
would have never had to know. But you know, to
each their own. Ronan Raphael says, if I have a
personal relationship with a creative I would ask him about
question of stuff. Like someone I used to be cool with.
When I noticed him bringing anti vaccines on his podcasting
The Height of COVID nineteen, I asked why. He said

(07:26):
he just he was just asking questions and doesn't share
their views, but he was giving them airtime. So I unsubscribed.
No mean language or insults needed. Yeah, I just I
think if I had a personal relationship, that's different than
just me listening to someone's podcast or YouTube channel or whatever.
I think feedback is a good thing. I like to

(07:47):
encourage it for us, but I don't think all feedback
is good, and I don't think all criticism is good,
And I think there's a level of value that has
to be put into it. And when that is done,
when those qualifications I met, I found that to be
very rewarding. That's why we do our feedback shows, and.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
It's very fun for actually the host and the person
speaking because it's a conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
But in general, I feel like the most tenor the
tenor of most feedback and conversations quote unquote on the
social media are very disposable and not really taking people's
stuff into a humanity into account. Agreed. You know, we'll
get into it later on a different episode. But like
a person left a comment on here, and I've happened
to have had really good conversations with this person throughout

(08:31):
the years through like Facebook, DMS and stuff like that,
and I actually DMed her to be like hey, what
what like what exactly do you see in this situation
versus what I am intending to convey to people, because
I value your opinion and I don't want to just
be dismissive and I don't want to come on the

(08:51):
air on Saturday and be like, you know, fuck you
talking about whatever and be you know, defensive, and then
it just won't help anybody. So if I can, yeah,
if I can talk to you, it's better. And then
was talking through tex. So it's still some things I
think get lost in transagulation. Yep. There was a couple
of times I made jokes that I realized later like
she took serious and then I replied back like no,

(09:13):
this one was a joke. This one was a joke
like this like I.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Need sarcasting front.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah yeah, I was like I should maybe I should
like reply back with a ha ha to my own
thing or something, just to let you know, like I'm
not this is not serious. I want you think I'm
fucking crazy, Like because one of the things I was like,
you know, like it was like, well, some listen to
you know, at least two of your listeners didn't understand
I made a joke like just too, it's so many
people listening to show you need dozens hundreds, and I'll

(09:39):
reply back like that was a joke, because I don't
want to sound like I'm like I'm being a dick.
I don't really believe that says parasocial relationships sound so bad.
I love you both and feel that we are transatlantic friends.
I don't care against lots of love because I don't
want to change her one bit. She is perfect the
way she is. Justin says it was great to finally
meet y'all. I've been listening to the last nine or
ten year years now. My wife, who doesn't listen to show,

(10:01):
really enjoyed herself too. Oh thank you, Sean says, great show.
In so many thoughts, I really miss the Righteous Prick
rain on your Parade podcast at times like this. It
would have been great to hear his side of the experience.
I'm sure he'll probably bring I know he wrote his
roadblock about it. I was read that, and I know
he'll also post on his Patreon. That's kind of where

(10:23):
the Righteous Prick is gone. It might not be the
same name or concept, but you know, if you just
want to hear updates on Jail's life and misery and
general discontent, I think that's what I do. I listen
on your relationship. There was a time you took a break.
I think it may have got been your first time
to take a week off, and you started a rumor

(10:44):
that you got divorced on Twitter. The fact that you
can joke about being divorce shows a lot of security
in your relationship. My wife told me that if we
ever got divorced, I would know because she would start
asking about my recipes. So whenever she feels and froggy,
she'll ask me, so, how do you make that stuff?

Speaker 4 (10:58):
In?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Again? Also, I remember listening to your Real house Husband
series on the Premium feed. Highly recommend for premium listener.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Real house Husband was fun. That was a very fun series.
We had a ball doing that.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And a great reason to go premium. But just wanted
to say, Rod, if you don't feel safe, blink SOS
And unfortunately I don't know morse code. Oh and the
jall lift that is Nigerian or ghana is? Was it? John?
Nigerian or Ghanaian? Joelof I was asked at a dinner
after an academic conference and sat between the Nigerian woman

(11:32):
on my right and a Ghanaian woman on my left.
And they asked if I was comfortable. I said, as
long as you don't bring up Joel Off, I should
be fine. We then spent the next half hour talking
about who made better Joe Off. I'm probably pronounce it wrong. Sorry. Finally,
Karen just wanted to say Aries are the best. Love
your slow burn and anger, and it's a fellow Aries.
I have that same feeling. Now, off to reinstall Insta

(11:54):
to see if I can find Rod's February post. They're
on there. Thanks Sean Ramsey, DJINGA says I'm still catching
up on episodes. I could hear a relief in join
Rod's voice after the success of the live show this
past week, sitting love and hugs both for you. Yeah,
I mean, I thought it went really good. I wasn't
really that word or nervous until I got there and

(12:17):
the mixer was acting weird and I couldn't record it,
and we did have some technical disease we've never had before.
But I just never may runs a lot smoother for
the people that were there, the people that got to
watch live. You know, I think it was a good
experience and uh, you know, I look forward to doing
it again and next time we'll have some more fail

(12:38):
safety in place. I think to help with that. Ronan
Rafael says, y'all know that I loved that brother Rod
and sister Karen. They was looking great in five star
on stage, along with my light skin energy repping Justin
and j L were a performance. However, I missed the
meet and greet, not because of what y'all are thinking
color people time. It was some delicious steak that made
me forget the time. That chef must not have a

(12:59):
middle name. I just know I've been set up. I
would also like the table a petition. How they set
you up with a delicious steak's.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Let me up all of a sudden you got you
was like steak tiew.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Warp set me up like that?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
What I'm trying to tell you save every bite.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I would also like the table a petition. Now, why
would the Madame Mozille tps refer to me as the thief?
A whole humble met third good Marshall did not fight
for our freedom just for me to face this, and
she struck a pose with me in our photo looked
like America's next billionaire. I deserve conversation. A hustle is
not a death. I'm a black capitalist. It was great, Yeah,

(13:44):
it was. That was also a cool thing about being
able to do the live show, and I'm gonna try to,
you know, make a commitment to do at least one
a year, just because it was cool seeing like some
of y'all link up in person and be like, you know, uh,
that's wrong Raphael, who's always writing in. That's miss Smart
who's always writing in. You know, there's Miss Barnes who's

(14:06):
always writing in. Like seeing that, you know that energy.
You know, some of y'all I'm friends with, like a
little bit more offline or right we DM and stuff
like that. Seeing those people here in person and seeing
them get the vibe with each other, that meant a
lot to me. It was great to meet Karen finally. Yes,
it was a few seconds. My fault. I didn't want
to impose. Plus Rod already bribed me with that frisbee,

(14:28):
you silently telling me to go to Olympics right, like said,
it's twenty eight Here I come sponsored by TPS. Shout
out to Ky who sat next to me. He flew
in from Seattle, Charlotte. I'll be back. I had a
great good time and great respect to the Blackout tips Nason,
y'all are awesome, taxted, it was wonderful to meet you.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I think that I enjoyed meeting a lot of y'all
in person because y'all know what we look like, but
for some of y'all, we don't know what y'all look like.
So it's really cool to put faces names and uh
that are personal names, but kind of on line names,
and then you kind of relate. Okay, I know who

(15:09):
you are based off that interaction. So it was actually
a really great, really fun experiencing the joke and laughing
things like that. And and our audience does you know
they get us? They know you know, we do a
lot of joking. We do it a lot of laughter,
and I appreciate the audience for understanding and getting our
senses of humor.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Let's see. Michael writes in thanks to you both and
everyone else who made the live show so great. I
admit I got a little starstruck when I met you guys.
Thanks for so many great years of podcast. I look
forward to the future live shows. Oh man, that was fun.
Uh And Michael actually sent us some stuff in the mail.
When we get to the opening the mail segment. Okay,

(15:50):
but nah, every everybody was so sweet, so nice, and
you know, it's it's funny to think of someone being
starstruck by a US because I don't. I don't walk
around like I'm a start. I do not come and
take the picture.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I'm like, I'm a regulass nigga.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm ready for my close up, mister Davillion, no thing
from my mind. Yeah it was, but it was cool,
you know, everybody, whatever, however you think you came off.
Everybody seemed like they came off cool to me. Yes
they did. Even he says, congratulations on another successful show.
Even though I wasn't there physically, I was able to
watch via zoom. I really hope I can make it
to the next one. Karen, you look so beautiful and
Jail it was funny. Thank you, And let's see. Uh

(16:33):
uh do we have this one on the I can't
remember if I put that. Yeah, I did put this
one on their YouTube, all right, and so we got
six comments on the YouTube. Let me get to these. Uh,
there you go. Jason says, you were right on time
when you said you are your audience. You don't create

(16:53):
an audience, you attract an audience. That's why I get
upset when people get these maga folks and excuse Trump
doesn't create big Is he a tre speaking of bigotry,
I bet JL was super dope. I also saw the
photo of JL, Justin, and Don looking like they were
in a light skin only green room. Colorism is fall
at the blackout tips. Yeah, it was funny because Justin

(17:14):
wanted to take that picture specific me to take that
picture specivially of them three being light skinned and together.
Me and Justin joke a lot about colorism and stuff,
but that's our friendship and try not to impose it
too much on y'all because some people get very tight
about that. But what I thought was funny is that
if you look at the pictures in sequence, Justin, for

(17:38):
Justin does not know how to take a candidate. He
was like, I just walked over and talked to him,
and he was so awkward and weird with deposing that
it immediately made Jail and Don be like, what are
you doing? Are we taking a picture? And so the
first picture is supposed to be them as a candidate,
and then the second picture is them all looking at

(17:58):
me holding the camera, And if you look at them
in sequence. It looks like a sitcom where with in
the eighties and nineties where the sitcom would have a
person like the camera on the person, they wouldn't be
looking at the camera. Then they look directly the camera
and then their name comes up like Dominic Rivera. That's
how That's how the picture looked around. I was like,

(18:19):
y'all look like a light skinned nineties called full house
niggas And I'm just kidding. Ro waians Red Lotus Deva says, Okay,
the fomo is getting to me. If you guys do
a live next year, I'll get got I gotta make
the Pilgrimage great episode. Yeah, a lot of people were.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Saying that, Yeah, that's the that's the plan, and so
you know, we'll start planning and see what happens from there.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Fl Dutches says, Karen is preaching. How Lujah dark Namja
just left Miley facing moojis. Alicia says, funny story about
the cartoon censor and my son, who's seventeen now, when
he was a tyler and I had to work nights,
my mom would put them to sleep and she would
turn on Cartoon Network, not knowing adult swim was shaking
my head.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Oh no, yeah he learned, yeah, hed, And depends on
the age you he was watching some a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Of real stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
James says. The live show was so much fun. I
love jamming to the music where everybody Jail was hilarious. Also,
Care looked absolutely gorgeous. Can't wait for the next one.
Thank you. Yeah, I felt pretty.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I'm glad y'all seen it.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
You were, you were, you are?

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Just anyway, all right. The poll for this episode was
have you met Rod and Caroen in person before? Yes?
Eighty percent basically has not yet, which makes sense. I mean,
there's a lot of y'all that listened to the show,
so but still twenty percent feels high. But I guess
that's also probably the people that go to the website feedback.

(19:53):
But still that's very high. Went out of five. Yeah,
shut out to y'all, all right before we go to
the next episode and play little bit of music so
that we can of course pay some bills and get
some money, so we'll be right back, all right. The

(20:38):
next episode is thirty fifty nine of Blackout Tips Live.
I put the live audio out about a week after
we did the show. And just because we weren't putting
out any other episodes that week, and the audio was
better than I guess the Zoom audio people were having
some issues, so the in house audio seemed to be better,

(20:59):
at least that's what I was told. I emailed it
out to all the people that had live tickets first,
and then a couple of days later put on the feet. Ms.
Barnes says. So when I left Charlotte to go home,
I decided to stop by bow Jangles for breakfast, and
I got the AI draw through Lady Oh not both
Senda BOWLNDO, whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
The name was, Yes, but I think it's Bolinda. Well,
who the hell is a Boatlinda?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I was like, what in the fresh hell is this?
She was super sweet though, and wish me a nice day.
Of course, imagine my disappointment when I got to the
window to get a live human who wanted my money. Yeah. See,
that's another reason they got to do away with the
AI is because the people at bo Jangles can't keep
up that fake sincerity they work at bo Jangles. It's
not about that, No, it's not keep it real. In
the meantime, I hate to be that person, but you

(21:42):
got any more live shows in the back lol, just playing.
I had so much fun Friday night and meeting everyone.
Thank you Yay. Ramsey d Jingers says five stars because
you all had a blast. I liked the live show
format you all used. I will make it to Charlotte
for the next one.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I really think I may have stumbled onto something and
that might be the way we do live shows from
here on out, like at least for the time being,
because I had a bunch of different ideas, but like,
once I thought of that idea, it kind of it
really stuck out, Like, Yo, this could be fun. It's spontaneous,
but it's also people's choice. It's interactive, the audience gets

(22:19):
to have fun, we get to give out prizes. And
so I really liked that format and we probably would
do that again. It was fun. Yeah, all right, let's see.
So this one didn't go on the rain feed obviously
just because it was just nothing, nothing about audio. Oh,
which means I knew number the episolls wrong. So that's

(22:40):
on me anyway, I'll fix that later. No prob I'm
in on YouTube that the numbers are wrong, but yeah,
it'll be fine anyway. So that's it for that one.
Nepoe was do you enjoy live comedy ninety two percent? Yes,
eight percent. No, they prefer their comedy to be dead.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Somebody that chatman was talking about how the bartender was
wild with the poorn. It was it was it was
probably because y'all. I buttered the I butted the bartender up, y'all.
I buttered the bartender real good for y'all. Came because
we're super early, so y'all know me.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Y'all went to it. I told her thank you for
being there, and I told her.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I was like, y'all gonna take up. I said, now
I'm taking right now. People gonna take care of you.
Now you ain't got to worry about that. I was like,
we're gonna have a good night. She was like, we're
gonna have a good night, baby. So I made sure
I butt it up real good. So I guess she
was pawing hard.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, And we love to see it. We love for
y'all to see it and experience it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
All.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, let's get to the next one h thirty sixty one.
I think was that one. Let me just make sure
the numbers are right. Oh no, no, I think I
skipped one d live. Okay, yeah, thirty sixty, keep that
sane energy. Fourteen comments fourteen Oh man, let's see what
we got here. The first comment is from Ned, who

(24:00):
says two point museum sounds awesome. I don't keep up
with video game news anymore, but that sounds right up
my alley. I'm gonna have to get it and play
along too, but right now I'm extremely dedicated to Bear
and Breakfast. Also by Breakfast, also by Karen's recommendation, she's
got elite tasting games.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I like a lot of cozy fun games and Bear
I haven't. I need to get back on that. Bear
and Breakfast. It's one that once you get into it
and you start branching off of going to the various
places and taking care of your customers and things like that,
it is actually really fun.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I do not know why I for some people.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
A lot of the games that I like, I don't
want to say them it's mindless. But I just like
organization and and and and doing things and putting people
to do this, do that, assigning people's signents like.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I like that type of up.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I play other games too, but I kind of like
that management type of thing, and I could do it
for hours.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Afiel says, I agree. People will have to suffer more
to change their thinking and behavior. So much for both odds.
Ronald Raphael says, I truly appreciate you too. The best
podcasts in the world. I believe that that's part of
why I'm so annoyed over the November elections is what
you guys, beautifully summarizing how many of us cover the
Democrats like the NBA. I have even heard people questioning
ha Qeen Jeffreys' leadership because of the ten dims who

(25:16):
voted to since your representative Al Green, the same Jeffries
who held every single Democrat in line while the GOP
was fighting over the speakership when trash Mike Johnson couldn't
keep the government running thanks to his bitch blonde Beach
Bleach and Todd Eaton, Marjorie Taylor Green, who's wanted to
shut down, didn't ha Qeen Jeffrey score concessions including aid

(25:36):
to Ukraine and exchange for Democrats support. All of a sudden,
we're back to only Bernie Sanders, the only one with leadership.
You had to suffering ain't enough yet the lives are
still holding on for too many Thanks again for this episode.
I do get mad at the end of the section two, yeah,
the politics to get mad. Yeah, I saw people kind
of like, I don't understand the anti ha Queen Jeffries move.

(25:57):
I really don't. I think that is just a symptom
of like everyone's mad on the internet, and so everyone
is just raising the bar, moving a gold post on
all the Democrats and everything's the Democrats fall and they're
never good enough and they can't be good enough. And
the reason I don't like that is because when you
actually have legitimate criticism of Democrats, it falls. It's empty.

(26:19):
It's the boy who cried Wolf, you know, it's the
sguy's falling. It holds no value because you always shitting
on them, even when they're doing what they need to
be doing, right, what you ask them to do. I
have some qualms with this. Just Chuck Schumer shit that
he did with the Senate, I actually don't like that.

(26:40):
I actually thought he fucked up. And it's it's almost
meaningless to hear other people say that because they think
everything Democrats do is fucked up. And so I for me,
I'm like, well, I'm not like y'all, I don't This
is not a I don't want to join the fray
of like I hate Democrats. I just want to say, like,

(27:01):
in this one instance, I think Chuck played this wrong.
I don't think Democrats should have helped pass the government,
uh I shut down like the stoppage. I think they
actually should have let the government shut down. But you know,
it's weird to say that in this environment because then
people go right because the King jeffres ain't shit like

(27:22):
no King Jeffreys been holding the line, and that meaningless
censure vote shit don't matter to me. What matters to
me is something like this budget vote. That matters a
lot more to me, because if you can hold people
in line with that, then that means you're doing something.
You can hold them in line with the speakership. No
Democrats defecting to help Republicans pass or speak new speaker
of the ouse. Now we got something.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Right, y'all got the numbers passed, Make it fail, y'all
pass a feltic.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, but I don't like it, And I don't even
like the whole like generalization of the Democrats when a
lot of times we are talking about somewhere between two
to five percent of all Democrats, and we just say
and we let them represent the Democrats. And I don't

(28:07):
like that. I think that's very very short sighted and
not h and it makes the problem seem bigger than
it is and something that can't be overcome, where I
actually think the problem is simple and can be overcome.
You literally are like two people away from this not
even being a problem, but instead we make it sound

(28:27):
like no, we're one hundred people away from it being
a problem of not being a problem.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
And also, I think the thing that irritates me when
people say the Democrats is very irritating because I'm like, no, no, no, no,
name the people and depend on where they are educated, y'all.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
They don't even know the people.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
They just talking like, name the people, name specifics, because
that's the shit that matters. Because the bulk of them
are doing what you requested. The ones that are not
are the motherfuckers need to be called out, not the
ninety five to ninety eight percent.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
That are doing the right thing. No, who are people?
You motherfucker You're the problem, not the rest of them.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
I need to look at you, and if it's a problem,
we need to get your ass out of office and get
somebody else in here that's gonna do what they need
to do. You're turn around and you're punishing everybody because
you're too lazy and you're too incompetent to find out
how shit works.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, but most importantly, you're making it the problem sound
an unlike you can't overcome it right, Like it's it's
just a like it's so funny because people say democrats
have a messaging problem, and I think a lot of
times democratic critic critics have a messaging problem because they
make people feel hopeless. And your whole thing is you're

(29:39):
supposed to be motivating the rest of us to join
in with you to save whatever we can of democracy,
and this day you just talk like this is an
insurmountable problem that is just fundamental to how it works,
as opposed to like, no, we've overcome this before, and
you're right, you need to be specific. Ms. Barnes says, yes,
I too, am a vaccine not I would like all

(30:01):
the vaccines, please, all of them. Whatever my doctor suggests,
I have my arm ready to go chat.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Can we do it right now? Do I need to
go back to the nurses room? Whatever it takes, yeah,
it was so bad.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I slipped up by accident. I forgot that. So our
pharmacy where we get our vaccinations is no is just
it's a CVS, but it's in a Target. And once again,
the boycott. I haven't been online. I don't pay attention
to online boycotts and stuff like that. But I'm not
trying to integrate the boycott. I heard that it's now
forty days and all this stuff, and I'm not trying

(30:34):
to like slide on it or do anything shady. But
I literally got ky slipping because we go to the
CVS and they're like, hey, the person that needs the
pharmacist tech or whatever that needs to administer your vaccine,
they need they got to use the bathroom. So they
just need like, can you come back in five ten minutes.

(30:55):
I'm like okay. They're like just walking around Target or whatever,
and so walking around the Target, and I'm forgetting that
we're supposed to boycotting Target, and I didn't go to
I didn't buy Target stuff. I went to, uh, Starbucks
in a Target, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll get
some Starbucks, get some coffee, go right back.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Apparently when you buy Starbucks and the coffee coffee in
the Target. It's really just shopping at Target. It's like,
I gotta I got an email later like how was
your shopping at Target? I was like, I didn't go
to the fucking Target. I went to Starbucks, like we're
supposed to, Like, is this a trick they send in
these to black people to make us think we've been
shopping at Target when we haven't, be like, I remember
us Target. I know you bought something back in January

(31:40):
of last year. We're just not sitting in the survey.
Don't feet about.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Your asking my Starbucks card, not my Target car?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
You up, bighead? You know whatever? And yeah, I used
the Starbucks gift card that I had, But it was
funny that I was just like, oh damn, I guess
I guess I helped big Target out. They think my
black ass is out here chucking and driving.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It wasn't no purpose. I had to get that vaccine, y'all.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Big bank says, I'm gonna be that guy. But how
on the hall came from slavery? Kind of like everything
in this country. Sorry, I love us for real, but
I couldn't let it pass by. Yes, y'all can't help y'allselves.
I always try to hedge y'all off and be like,
don't write in, but I know because I know if
I don't say it, even more of you were right
in than the five of you who are going to
write in. Anyway, DJ says had to pop in and

(32:24):
speak up because I'm represented by one of those ten
who voted for the censure. I responded when I saw Twitter,
Rent and Raven about just throw away, throw our rep away,
and they don't live here. My reps district is vast.
In the city and county and maybe a smidge of
another are her only blue votes. Everywhere else is the
sea of red. Ohio is a sea of red with
blue dots and pockets are non voting. Amish. Republicans have

(32:45):
a choco here state level, included State Supreme Court. Dems
mostly win here because they are a middle line on
big and big on reach across the aisle. Most would
say that Republicans are midline. I have a narrow view
when it comes to women's right, so I wouldn't have
as they do everything here to destroy a bodily a
time tomy. But conservative extremists did chase Rep. Boner out

(33:06):
of a Bonner out of US House leadership, claiming he
was also too moderate anyway, the Dim Rep. She votes
for DEM policies majority of the time to help US
regular people. She supports unions, the ACA, the CFPB, the
infrastructure build etc. She advocated hard with another DEM Rep.
To get tech companies to bring chip manufacturing here and
thus jobs beyond just auto factories. I won't act like

(33:29):
I know her exact reasons for going with the censure,
but I'm not in the their secret Republicans camp people
on Twitter. I think that's going too far and likely
more to do with the closeness of her race. The
past two cycles, the party here has not presented a
replacement for her, and if they do, that person will
also be more moderate AOC types unfortunately won't win here.

(33:49):
The dangerous possibility is that she will be replaced by
a MAGA nut like that other Rep. I mentioned earlier
just did a Capitol ride. Denier was her challenger this
past election cycle. I don't on our district to fall
into those type of hands. If the Dems can't present
a feasible replacement for her, sorry, I'll vote for her
to keep the magots.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Out right, and then those are things that matter. And
like Roger said, the people talking online, y'all lie in
this district. You can't vote, you're just talking.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, people ranting and they feel bad, and that's fine,
But they feel bad from a distance that they are
not affected by what is happening in your jurisdiction and
they don't have to do the consequences of it. Yeah,
so they can just they just get to feel bad.
And you know, I think that's why we have to
be careful. We have to think about that stuff when
we enter the zone of social media. It's just important

(34:39):
to think about that, to be like, what is the
bigger picture? What is happening here? That's the stuff I
was getting at when I talked about TikTok, and I
don't I'm not singling out TikTok because I feel that
way about all social media. It's just unfortunately TikTok is
the one that currently has enough people feel in a

(35:00):
way about it that they feel like they need to
defend it. And I'm like, that's weird because when I
say that shit about Twitter, there's no defense. If I
say it about Facebook, no one wants to defend it. Instagram,
no one wants to defend it. Read it. No one
wants to defend it. But somehow TikTok is the one
where people are like, wait a minute, I take exception
of that, and it's like, I don't know why, because
it's the same shit ran by the fame people like

(35:22):
if any. It reminds me of the book I read
After the Gig about the gig econdomy and the startup
companies and the promises that they make when they start up.
People buy into it like it's not marketing. They buy
into it like it's real. They're like, Twitter's gonna help us.
It helped the revolution in Egypt. It is a good thing,

(35:43):
and it's like, no, it's something good may have come
from it. That does not necessarily mean it is inherently good,
and it doesn't mean it's going to stay good, right,
And I think that with all this stuff. But yeah,
Twitter's politics and discussion of politics or right is extremely
toxic and very very little nuanced, and nuance is not

(36:05):
really greeted or rewarded there on that platform because it
takes long form to really do that stuff. And also
it just doesn't rile up the feelings as much as
someone who's just like get these democrats out of here
or whatever like that rouse people up.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
You can't be reasonable. Everybody that is unreasonable to either
extreme is the ones to get rewarded.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, Rex de LaCour says, I yelled exactly during your
banter when you said Sterling should be green Landing because
he has the fan He has been fan cast, my
fan cast ever since the treadmill scene. That this is us.
Wb DC unfortunately couldn't get right even with flawless casting
for their trinity. But I'm going to take it one
further for you. He was in Black Panther and decided

(36:50):
he just wanted to do a voiceover, and the best
they could talk him into was baggae jeans and an
oversized TEA good thing. Coogler had mbj's comgutters on string
dial right agree.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
They was like, look, you gotta do more than the
intro doll. We got to get you on camera.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Why is this man so humble? Shoe booty says word
nerd clocking in for duty. The phrase how on the
hall comes from back in the day when you were
seeing this. I doesn't want to know. I didn't you know.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I ain't gonna tell your baby.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I don't want to know. It's funnier that I don't know.
And I made up a joke.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
They was like, high on the hall, you up high,
and I'm gonna tell you and I know.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
It's just like it was that Encyclopedia.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
When a stand up says they don't know something, but
they actually do know because they say every night that
same joke on stage. The joke is that the phrase
how the hall comes from back in the day when
you were seeing as wealthier for eating more expensive cuts
of pork from an upper portion of the pig than
a lower portion. Think of it like eating a roast

(37:55):
pork long but versus eating pig feet. Rich food versus
pezzant food. How means the low not getting hog if
you're bacon in this context, God not me. Pausing to
show the comment didn't being told don't write in. I'll
go sit in the corner. Sean says, I resisted the
urge to pause and comment. Just glad I'm not the
only one who felt the urge. Well, at least you're
not alone. And if Sean is with you, then you

(38:16):
know you're not alone. Yeah, Erica says, my doctor didn't
have the COVID booster available when I was last in office.
She gave me the flu and flew vaccine and told
me to wait two weeks to get the booster. I
definitely would have taken them at the same time I
do Sterling k Brown Chef's kiss. I didn't know he

(38:36):
was so built. Definitely would like to see him in
more action. That shallow scene was fire. I kept kept
up on paradise and helps I see more of his buns.
But kidding, just kidding, was a great show. Yeah, he chose,
he chooses to show the buns. Apparently he's like, listen,
I'm not okay, I'm only doing it if if my
character has a need. That's he's just staying and shake

(39:00):
for no reason. Sean says about the absurd, stupid, ignorant,
and ill conceive idea of making the English the official language.
First off, it's a bad idea. Thankfully, it's not something
that can be done by executive order. That being said,
being an official language basically has one actual tangible result.
It's not about what language people speak or the availability
of languages for accessibility on government forms. Those won't change

(39:21):
by making English the official language. What will change is
all the official contracts will need to be written in English.
Just doesn't sound like a big deal, except that it
means that restaurants with the French speaking owner hiring a
Parisian chef will need to have the official contract between
the owner and worker written in English, and then a
professional certified translator rewrite those documents in the language where
both the parties can understand. Oh so to help a

(39:44):
lot of translators get hired. Sounds like a good thing.
This goes to the upfront. I'm just jugging. This goes
for other similar situations as well, and will likely hit
construction firms and non chain restaurants the hardest. Too long,
didn't read make English the official language has extremely high
costs of small business with knows zero do zeltch no
benefits to anyone anywhere. Don't think it's a good idea. Agreed,

(40:04):
And yeah, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
How a contracts sometimes just whitning the person's native language
on both sides and everybody's signs just keeps trucking.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Pract he says, keep that saying energy as bars. That
message needs to be heard by everyone. I'd buy that
T shirt. Well, it's when I keep on the store
click on the link in the In the show notes,
I also love the analogy of the Democrats being the NBA.
Sad but so true. Listen, that was one that when
it hit me, I was like, Oh, I'm a genius.
That's what it is. It's the same shit. Even he says,

(40:40):
I'm up to date on my shots, but I'm not
sure if I got the MMR vaccine when I was
a kid, so I'll have to ask my mom. I
know I had the chicken pox when I was a kid,
but I never had the measles. But I may get
measles vaccine just in case because the pharmacist said getting
one wouldn't be harmful. It's better to be safe than sorry,
because these dumbasses out here getting vaccinated of not getting

(41:00):
vaccinated is not gonna get me in mind.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
I feel you on that one. Yeah, I mean, I
don't know if I got it eat. I probably did.
I've got all of the shots, you know, being the
kid and all that shit, so it's gonna be my
doctors say get it.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Not, I'm not gonna worry about it. On YouTube, provocative
AF says heart emoji, heart emoji, Rod, I want to
shot out you and Karen. I love this episode more
than any other. All of them are great, but I
was feeling fucked up emostly with the world. But listening
to you and Karen broke the al green Jasmine Crockett
in the State of the Country down, I felt that
in my heart. Thank you much love to y'all. I'll

(41:34):
become a member tomorrow. Caught this at two am, Central Town,
Saint Louis week ass is in the building. Love much love.
I don't think thank you, Abe, and I'm glad man,
because honestly, I feel like sometimes the stuff we say
here is not said anywhere else. I don't know that
anybody else is talking about politics in the way that
we are, and especially in the I know my point

(41:57):
of view is drastically different from most people when it
comes to just this. The the idea I have right
now is one of like, try everything, and what is
not for me, I will just disregard, right I'm not

(42:17):
trying to I don't know the answer. I'm trying to
be humbling this in that I don't I know what
I think is gonna happen. I know some of the
like consequences of results, but I don't know what to
do here because I thought Democrats and Kamala Harris ran
a good campaign. I refuse to go back on that,
and and pretended they didn't. I don't. I don't even

(42:39):
care what Tim Wall says or whatever. Like they lost,
so they're scrambling. So of course they feel differently than
I do. But I thought they ran a good campaign
that ran into a problem of America, and so yes, America, Yes,
and so seeing Jasmine Crockett TikTok dancing is not gonna
bother me. Seeing how Green get kicked out is not

(42:59):
gonna bother me. Seeing ninety five percent of the Democrats
say leave Algread alone and five percent of them be like,
I don't know, man, I think he went too far.
Not gonna bother me. Those symbolic things won't bother me
that much. Real power, such as Schumer passing that budget,
that does bother me. I'm not gonna lie. I think

(43:20):
that was something that is tangible. And I believe if
they played hardball, they make the GOLP go back and
come back with a thirty day resolution or something some
other alternative than the false choice of shut the government
down or don't shut the government down. I really do
think that would have happened. We'll never know for sure,
But part of the reason we'll never know is because

(43:41):
of Shumer and his reasoning to me was not solid reasoning,
and a lot of people's defense of it is not
the reasoning he gave, because the reason he gave was
on some like I'll never vote to shut down the government,
blah blah blah. But people were saying, like, oh, one
of the things that is happening here is if you
shut the government down down, eventually things will run out

(44:02):
of funding and then Elon and Trump will go crazy.
And here's the thing. If you think that is the
golp's purpose, if you think that is Donald Trump's purpose,
and if you think that is Elon Mus's purpose, understand this.
They didn't need the Democrats to do that. Nope, they
need meaning that if they wanted to shut the government down,

(44:25):
all they have to do is tell all of the
politicians in the GOLP to sit on their hands. They
don't need the Democrats help one way or the other
to shut it down. Now they need their help to
pass it. But to say we would like the government
to shut down without funding, there's a fundamental logical flaw
in that the Republicans voted for this. They wanted this budget.

(44:50):
So no, I don't think Schumer's playing chess and somehow
outsmarted everybody and it's sacrificing to keep the government open
because the he secretly wanted that. They And keep in mind,
the way these votes happen, they know for the most
part how people are gonna vote. GOP could have gone
and been like, guys, ten Democrats are defecting, and they're

(45:14):
going to make us pass the budget, and secretly we
don't want to. We need ten more Republicans to stand
down on this so that we don't pass the budget
and that the government shuts down, because what we really
want to do is shut the government down and then
fire everybody under the cover of darkness. I don't think
that's true. I really think Schumer just misread the room,
and I think smart when you see Nancy Pelosi and

(45:36):
alc agreeing that he fucked up, I think that's enough
for me to have enough hubris to say, you know what,
he probably fucked up. You know, And I'm not a
Schumer hater. I don't really hate any of these politicians,
but yeah, I think he fucked up. Let's see this person,

(45:58):
Ehimani says, Hi and Karen joyed to show the phrase
how the hard originated in the twentieth century American for
us to eating the best because of me from pig.
It can also be used to describe a wealthy lifestyle.
I am Ambra Woodhouse says, just dropping in to show
y'all some love. Thank you, Sis dark Namja Winky Emojis
Jingsville says, I'm with you, Rod. The anti Democrat rhetoric

(46:18):
is ridiculous at this point for the most part, and
honestly has been since the twenty sixteen ish. But now
it's too kind of productive and I can't help but
see folks who completely ignore what trumping them do and
turn the iron Democrats' ops. No matter what they do,
they're wrong and somehow the problem not these folks pass
the legislation to take away our jobs and civil rights. Yep, agreed.

(46:38):
Uchitah says, when you say the dirt bag left for
you're talking about guys like Jimmy Door. I think he's
one of them, but there's a lot of them. There's
literally like Chapo trap Hoals, there's I mean, yeah, there's
like a whole little echo chamber of those guys. I
don't know what they're up to. Now there's that breet
I can't remember her name. The black woman who uh

(47:02):
was a Bernie somehow worked their way into Bernie's like uh,
not administration, but like his campaign people, and then went
rogue and then turned on him and all this shit
pre something anyway. Yes, them motherfuckers, Dona Tello, and I
count young Turks and them too, like all of them
fucking ops to me, man, I'm so left that I'm Republican.

(47:24):
Suck mine dick right. Dona Tello says the second Gender
Wars video was Chef's kiss. It was amazing. I'm Talsia says, Hey,
I'm a fairly new subscriber here by way of Karen Hunter.
I joined your live show via zoom and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Seeing the funny comments, even about the poor sound quality
of times was hilarious. I started listening to podcast version
of today's show and decided to pop over the watch

(47:44):
on YouTube. Once you start talking about abs, hoping to
see some pics, Yep, I'm thirsty and ain't shamed about it.
I guess I did fuck up. I should have pulled
up his picks at the time. Jamesville said, side note,
I just wanted to esenl Elon and trump'skid. I just
watched it and yeah, they not holding a candle to JL.
I know they're not. I agree. JV City says, stay
in sane in the midst of madness. Woof, we lift

(48:06):
you up. This struggle is not as dire as the abolitionists,
and sad that it's continuing to this day. Till this day,
Candy says, exactly when we lose elections, everyone cries about
low turnout. Representative Jon Crockett is meeting people where they
are to get them engaged. People love to complain, but
those TikTok videos and arguments with MTG got more attraction.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, I know. So the thing is, y'all, And I'm
saying the Democrats and not do many the dimocrats when
I say this, The democratics job is to reach out
to everybody like they trying to catch them all.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
That's not my job. And so when you're trying to catch.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Them all, you have to do where all is. And
sometimes people have a tendency to forget that.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Your age range and where you are financially and your
education and all that stuff will impact how informed though
not informed, you are, how serious or not serious you.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
It just does like it does us younger people.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
We all know that a lot of times it's very
hard to get younger people engaged and shit like that.
You cannot ignore them because they are not you. You
cannot say they don't matter and who gets a fuck
about them and then turn around and blame them when
they're not engaged. But you're not doing the things that
you need to do to quote unquote engage. And that's
the Democratic Party as a whole job. So yes, TikTok

(49:23):
might might might make your forty fifty to sixty year
old ass mad because it's not for you. But if
I'm twenty something and I love Kendrick Lamar and I
see her dancing, I might get my ass out and
go I am in the party of whatever it takes.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
So yeah, I agree on that, And yeah, it just
feels like people are missing the point. We need a
lot of stuff right now and it doesn't all have
to be for us. It's okay to be like, yeah,
this one's for the kids or whoever's into this TikTok shit.
You know, maybe they'll see this shit before they see

(50:01):
another one of these, like don't vote because of Palestine videos.
Maybe maybe they'll feel connected in a way. Anyway, let's see.
The last one is Gino, who says yes on the
anti fog glasses. My hot flashes have been known to
fog line up. Is cool enough in the house, if
it's cool enoughing now, yeah, when I'm working out in

(50:22):
the gym, if it's cool enough, I get fogg on
my glasses, depending on like what exercise I'm doing. Like
if I say I do the bike and then I
do the then I do like bench press where my
glasses are now facing the ceiling, It'll fog up and
I'll be like, damn, I can't see.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
And the thing is, y'all when you get your glasses,
they have all types of shit, Like it's almost like
a DLC for video games, all the motherfucking upgrades. You
want to block out the sun, you want to block
out the blu rays, you want to block this out,
block that out. If fog was an option, they w
be like, you want anti fog, It is not an option.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think it is an option. People were saying well,
we'll get someone that rights saying about it.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Okay, Well then my people don't have it as an option,
I'll ask them.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Then yeah, but I mean it's it's to me, it's
a mild inconvenience and doesn't come up that often. The
glass is fogging up, so I think, I'm like, it's
I guess nice to have if you want it, but
it's not something that i'd be like, I gotta get
the anti fag like this shit barely comes up the pole.

(51:28):
Are you up to date of your COVID boosters seventy
five percent? Are wow, shout out to y'all twenty five
percent or not. But I'm shocked. That's a very high percentage.
I feel like that's way higher than the general society.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
And honestly, I really do think because I'll theok side
during COVID the whole time, people that actually listen, we
pushed that.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
We pushed that a.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Lot to make sure you protect you and yours and
things like that, like it matters. I know everybody's grown,
You're gonna do what you want to do, but at
the same time, these things for your protection, particularly with
all the things that are going on right now, you
need to be sure you are up to date, because
who knows what's gonna happen once a lot of this
shit gets passed. Once a lot of this legislation actually

(52:11):
gets the rolling. You know your insurance may or may
not cover it, and it's gonna be a big difference
you paying a dollar copaid.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Then you walk in there and go like each shot
is fucking two hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
The next episode is thirty sixty one. We told you so.
We have five comments. Appia says, I'm only cold at night,
and I wear lots of clothing and have three blankets
during the day. I'm always warm. My body produces lots
of heat. My hands and feet are always warm, like
if I live inside of energy. Feel thanks Energy feel.
I agree with everything about politics. I'm not shocked at all,

(52:43):
and waiting for the US to be renamed trump Land.
Sofa King says, wrt the pole question, I guess regarding
the pole question, are you always cold? Though not only
am I always cold? I think I was in kindergarten
before I was able to understand that other people got cold.
Sean says about the Poe, my parents like to raise
us by spending the summers in South Carolina, winners in Wisconsin.

(53:06):
I think they were into alliteration, and we did not
have ac growing up. So I'm comfortable from negative forty
degrees to forty degrees celsius forty degrees one hundred and
forty degrees fahrenheit living in Osccer, where it doesn't hit
either of these extremes. I'm generally comfortable year round, to
the dismay of my students who sometimes are too.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Shy, like baby, it's coding here, who.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Are too shy to tell me that I forgot to
turn on the heat. Damn even he says it was
wild about that story with the black guy whose white
girlfriend killed him. I saw a lot of black women
speaking up for him until all those tweets of him
disparaging black women came to light. Yeah, I'm I love
black women, I really do. But like sometimes I'll be like,

(53:51):
Y'A don't want just like wait this out, just you
know what I mean, Like white dude killed by black dude,
killed by white lady. Just let's just wait till the
tweets come in and hop ont like the calls is
just I.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Just wait, let's just see hits some more information.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Just see, like, you know, because because because the backlash
is gonna end up looking bad and then people are
gonna have all these weird ass things to say about
black women and all this ship where it's like not
my business. I'm like, let's see, like if what's she
in the klan? You know, like, what what happened? How
did you?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
You hate black women? All right? Well, good luck with that.
I don't have to save you. Uh. And then they stop,
which I don't blame them, but to add and so
the injury. His cousin spoke out to call black women
bums for not speaking up for him. Sound like he
has a whole family of coons. Yeah, see, my not
my business, not my table, you know, like and I

(54:43):
don't mean that on the negative like black men or
bullet bags. I'm not saying anything negative about black men
in that way, just saying like it's an exhaustive effort
to just jump in as if all this ship is
a cause. And meanwhile a lot of motherfuckers are just
if you wait a set and it's like, Okay, this
wasn't our business. He wanted this somehow. Let's see the

(55:06):
YouTube three comments, Jason says I'm with you about needing
the code situation care for me, specifically as movie theaters.
I've yet to go to the theater. They did not
freeze me out. Also, it's time we realize that Bernie
is simply the backup quarterback of the country.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Ah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Everybody want them when the things are going bad. Everybody
wants to talk about putting him in forgetting he has.
He's had every opportunity to be the starter. I'm fine
with his little tour. It's really easy to capitalize on
the anger this country after all that Trump is done.
Like y'all have said, ultimately is Trump's policies that will
cause the movements had if he had actually pull, he
had actual pull, he would have gotten these people to

(55:45):
the polls last year before all this happened. Agreed, That's
one of the things. Are things that I just don't
understand how people look past with Bernie. They'll say, like,
look at the rallies he's doing. People are showing up,
and it's like one not as many people showed up
for him as they did Kamala and Kamalo lost. So
I don't know that rally size is the mandate that
you would like to treat this sass. The other reason

(56:07):
that I look at that that I find it kind
of weird is like his rallies have a certain demographic
of people that's there, and that's not what the Democratic
Party is agreed. And his message purposely leaves out a
lot of people. And I don't know why. It's been

(56:27):
forty fifty years of this and he won't just change
it so that it could be a it could just
bring in more people, because I really feel like like
he keeps doing this white working class thing and I'm like, bro,
all of us are mad. I don't want to I'm
not looking at you saying please don't include me. I'm
saying include everybody. We all want this stuff. And I

(56:49):
know it makes your message a little more less simple,
but that is the task that Democrats have they and
they have a hard job. And I think you like
it on Easy Street. You like to just say it's
the one number and it's some rich people, and you
like to leave out stuff like white supremacy and stuff
like you know, abortion and stuff like that. You like
to leave it out of your message and not make

(57:10):
that part of the anger. Because we feel that anger too,
and I would love I would love to look at
a Bernie speech and feel like this is a speech
for me too, as opposed to like, oh, this is
a speech for angry white people in the middle of
the country. Sure, like, if you're angry white person, I'm
sure he's like your hero, But I love to hear
him talk more about other stuff too, right.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
And it's also, this is a song and dance he's
been doing for a very very long time, and the
message is always the same. And then when people that
are not in the white working class group this angry says, hey,
this message isn't for us. You're not talking to us.
The problem that I have is that the group just
around him turns to you and act like you're probably
the problem because you're not being catered to. It's like,

(57:54):
but a bitch, I ain't got to be here.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, anyway, the worst thing that could happen to Bernie
or a progressive movement is that Bernie actually come president.
Once he sends that first drone, and he will send
that drawn, all the super progressives will realize saying that
ain't real. Burning games a lot by simply having the
eye next to his name instead of the D his
platform is actually no more progressive than Kamala's, but he
can always claim outsider despite being in the Senate his

(58:16):
whole life.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Agreed, Agreed, Yes, yeah, I'm not gonna go down that
but but agreed. You like that ie because with that
I you don't have to take a stand on certain things.
You can play the middle, you can suck around like
it really don't matter because with that I, in this country,
you're not going to win. And so you know, and
whenever you run, you don't run on that I. You
run on that D. So when you come over here

(58:38):
with the D and the D is like, hey, doll,
we got rules of regulations and things we got to do.
You can't come over here with this eye mentality and
act like we're the problem. No, bitch, We've been doing
this for a long time. If you want to run
on this ticket, you have to abide by our rules.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Uh, Kochi Kochi Negra says love it and Jvcity says
heart emoji. No one is safe. The poll was are
you always cold? Yes, twenty nine and seventy one percent. No.
All right, let's play some more music and do the
last two episodes and then We'll come right back everybody.

(59:14):
How about this one that's tomorrow by DJ Joff I

(59:47):
like that.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I like that too.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Thirty sixty two, Rod changed his mind seven comments He
start eighty eight says TikTok isn't what you're saying at all.
Oh wait, I responded to this on the show all
right him them, says Rod. I thought pretentiousness and eating
rice with chopsticks went hand in hand quite literally. Oh
what's that? I'm sorry, I'm too busy eating my rice
with chopsticks. That's hilarious, Karen, Matsushi is not from my hands.

(01:00:15):
But I understand that life from way back when I
wasn't a pretentious chopstick using player like myself. And yes,
I just pushed my glasses up my index and middle
finger hashtag anime glare in deal eve, He says. I
knew Hooters was in trouble because the last time I went,
my waitress was at a cup. We go to Hooters
for wings and titties. I didn't get the full experience. Yeah,

(01:00:37):
does this economy broke op? You're saying I ain't got it,
I says mister Oppia sometimes lacks the danger since in
the same way. But he's an over six and a
half six point five tall man, so maybe it's more
grounded in his experience of people not messing with him.
I a woman would sometimes go to the other side
the street when there's a specious group of men in

(01:00:58):
front of us, and he just doesn't. He does just walking,
doesn't care. When I asked him about what if he
was about it, he was like, what what group? I
don't remember. I didn't notice them. Oh the privilege. Great
to see the Republican Party embracing electric cars. I thought
they were all dangerous week and they exploded all the time.
I guess it's not so after all when the money
is flowing. Yeah, once he pays for your election, it's like,

(01:01:20):
I love electric cars. Also, the European leaders come together
to get stuff done, even the UK and we as
Germany just decided to get the military more independent. Now
your progressives need to come together also, it will be
nice see baby says. It's for the best that Amazon's
getting ready to try before you buy. In my opinion,
one time I got a bra through that service and
it showed up smelling like major b o. What. They

(01:01:42):
just put them back in the bag and give it
to other people, no way, yuck smell likes. People slept
excise work that had sex in it for five days
and send it back on the sixth, so they wouldn't
be charged on the seventh. Yeah, but honestly, Amazon might
be onto something. They should do that and then when
they get one bat like that, sell it on only fans.
People pay good money for that, Like you slightly soil

(01:02:06):
pennies on Amazon, Like, wait, wait a minute, that's try
for the whole ass market. Yes, use the secondhand try
before you buy sales would probably make Amazon a lot
of money. Relucty, they're not diabolical enough because they should
be doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
That would be not safe for work Amazon.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Yeah, Amazon OnlyFans. Yes, Amazon had the nerve to put
a memo on the pace saying this item gets return frequently.
I didn't think they meant this specific item. Damn, I
didn't even know this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
You know what, I've realized that when you go on
to Amazon sometimes we will have a thing on it
that says that this item is returned.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah. I don't mind that, but it's never been clothing
for me. That feels weird. Uh, let's see biz drones
on the YouTube says it show. It shows it's absolutely
pointless to have a conversation with maga people. Oh because
I was talking about that dude, Sam Seedar versus Trump people.
But I mean we knew that biz drone. I still

(01:03:04):
don't feel see why those videos are I don't even
know what people get from those videos other than confirmation bias,
because who the fuck didn't know? You can't talk to
maga people at this point? How long we gotta be
in this? How many years does a maga she have
to keep having it before we be like, oh no,
these people are pretty much hopeless. Old Marv Hester says,
word to mother, I can't believe it. Nice impression, thank you.

(01:03:26):
Lamont says, but they don't mind feeding prisoners in the pen, right,
they don't want to feed the kids. But you go
to prison, they got you. Actually, they probably do mind
feeding them people. But anyway, Meek says, this is one
of the best quotes ever. Power is power. Shout out
to Circey. She we should have really listened to her. Right.
Lastly is Kevin, who says Rod and Karen first off, Lovedachelle.

(01:03:48):
Thank you for providing content so regularly. I wanted to
comment on this episode because you two devoted so much
time to that video clip with Sam. Say that you
mentioned several times that you didn't know who he was.
So here's some background. Sam was a long time podcaster
and YouTubers podcast The Majority Report that's won some journalism awards.
His YouTube's channel has over one point seven million subscribers.
His content is mainly politics from left his progressive perspective.

(01:04:11):
Several years ago, he was a political contributor for MSNBC.
Sam show is essentially an interview for Matt. He criticizes Democrats,
but doesn't bash him. He seems the love debating conservatives.
As you can see, I am very familiar with his work.
He often invites black writers, journalists, and activists on the show,
but his content does not go out of his way
to be in black spaces. So it doesn't surprise when
you guys have not come across his work. Yeah, it's

(01:04:32):
very white people news anyway, I thought his background might
be of interest to you. Again, love your show. I
first discovered your show when looking for black reviewers the
House of Dragons. You guys are so good. I started
listening more and more content. Well, thank you Kevin, I
appreciate the background on Sam once again, and I think
I reiterated many times in that discussion, I'm not disrespecting
the dude.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
It wasn't a judgment of him or his work as
much as it was like, I don't I don't think
there's anything in this content that truly he will be
thought provoking. But I do think a lot of it
is the kind of thing that I don't want to say,
mask of raises stop provoking, but the kind of thing
that makes people who already feel away though yeah, I'm

(01:05:14):
right to feel how I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Agreed, agreed, and and and and for me personally, they're
always I think when they first started coming out, I
seemed like one of the two say oh they all
like this and I just opt out of all of
my ignom and keep it trucking, because I was like, oh,
the structure is the same, You're not wasting my time
the pole.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Are you proficient at using chopsticks? Yes? Fifty seven percent.
No so, but that's a pretty good percentage, I think.
I am uh. And the last one is thirty sixty
three scam is life seven comments it'd be funny if
I said I was proficiently using chopsticks and then when
people saw me, I had like one in each hand.
I was keepting rice all over the table and shit. Anyway,

(01:05:53):
Sinia says, I have to agree with the comment or
you brought up on the show who wrote in about TikTok.
It may just be your algorithm, but there are people
on there not in glam hair undone by this on
looking raggedy, and they do have a lot of followers.
I can't name any specific ones because I just don't
keep up with TikTok creators like that, but I promise
I'm not lying to you. Lol. Well number one, I

(01:06:14):
did say there were outliers a few times in that
conversation originally and in my response to that person and
so to. I'm not offended, but it I hate when
this happens on the show. If I specifically address something,
I don't like when people write in like I didn't

(01:06:34):
address it, and it and it feels not that she's
doing this, but it feels like gaslighting, almost like it
was like, but I did acknowledge this. Now we don't
have to agree, but it was acknowledged, it was addressed
it was specifically acknowledged multiple times to say like, well,

(01:06:54):
you didn't you said nobody on there can get no.
I didn't say that there are people on there that
out and and the fact that you didn't name names
and can't name names. I still stand by my point.
Not being able to name their name is a big
fucking deal. It's the biggest part of this deal is
that you don't know their names. Because when you bring

(01:07:15):
up when I brought up that list of the most
popular people, those are household names. Now Addison raised a
household name, you know, like copy in the hands. We
all know that they're a company that does have their
finger on the scale of the algorithm of their company,
because all social media companies do. It's like they're not

(01:07:37):
exempt to any of this. And I'm not saying that
uh TikTok is a specific threat that is more insidious
than any other threat. What I'm saying is the need
to feel like you have to defend it. That is different,
meaning that people do not when I write up when
I say anything bad about these other social media crickets

(01:08:02):
crickets and I really have to bring this up. In
the wake of the TikTok shut down, that TikTok orchestrated itself.
All of us saw through it, all of us knew
what was happening, and the way that they shut it down.
People were feeding for it. And I was very, very
unnerved by the amount of progressive and liberal people who

(01:08:26):
were delving into conspiracies and acting like the government shut
TikTok down, saying that they shut it down because of Palestine. Meanwhile,
the government shut down the band started from Donald Trump.
When they opened up the floodgates again, they credited Donald Trump.
And you had to see it when you logged in

(01:08:48):
and say, okay, that was a message to you. I
saw progressive people saying not Senia, but people saying stuff
like thank you Donald Trump. That is because you're people
that claim to be against all of that, and here
you are thanking him, knowing that that knowing that it

(01:09:11):
was him that started in the first place. So I
really do think that is that part is scary. That
part is different from other apps, like because if TikTok goes,
if Twitter goes down, people are like fuck you on
fuck Twitter. Ah, glad it went down, even if they
miss it, even though like I'm on Facebook because I'm
not on Twitter, that there seems to be like an
understanding of I'm smoking a cigarette with other with the

(01:09:34):
other apps, like yeah, I'm smoking a cigarette, I'm on
Instagram TikTok, people can convince themselves, I think because the
algorithm is so good over there at like reflecting people
back to them what they want to see. In a
lot of cases, I think that algorithm is so good
and addicting over there, especially with like uh, the way

(01:09:56):
that they've integrated advertising stuff into it. I think it
is a different animal, and it does lead people to
feel a level of defense of that app that I
don't think it deserves. I think it's just an app
like any other app. And I did not single them
out as if as well. Rod always talks good about
the other apps, but not TikTok. I talk shit about

(01:10:16):
all of them, even the ones I'm on. I do
people think I'm not not on TikTok. I My coon
thing blows up every February on TikTok. So I do
know how TikTok works. I do see stuff on there,
but I just understand that this is an algorithm as well,
and there's no difference in this platform other than the

(01:10:39):
reputational good will that they received that I don't think
they have deserved. I don't think they've earned reputational good will.
I be shocked how people get on there sometimes because
the millennial and me cannot fathom getting online looking crazy,
but they do it a lot of times. They will
start off saying, I know I look crazy right now,
but even the people right And once again, that is
your algorithm, I think if you are the And this

(01:11:02):
was the way I was trying to tell the other
person about that app when I said, Stripper's talking politics,
and I'm glad you wrote in because it reminded me
of another point I want to make. But your algorithm
will learn from you. So if you're like I don't
mind clicking on people wearing bonus, I'm sure it will
show you more people wearing bonus. Right, But the default

(01:11:25):
of TikTok is not to promote those creators. And because
you're on there, if you're being honest with yourself, I know,
knowing Sinnia a little bit, I know you've looked at
those people and been like, damn, it's kind of wild
that she ain't blow up when she's she's always talking
that good shit but her stuff not going as viral

(01:11:46):
as X person. It's like, yes, cause whether it's even
the algorithm that just on a human level of visual medium,
people respond to the visualness of it, meaning whatever they
find aesthetically pleasing is what most people will grind onto,
and so it then biases itself past the algorithm into

(01:12:06):
the human mind where we're like, i'd like a woman
wearing makeup, whether I acknowledge it or not, You personally
and your virtues and whatnot may not be moved by that.
You might be like, I don't need you to be
made up for me to like your content, but a
lot of people do because people are shallow. I pointed
it out on the episode, which is you know why
it's a little bit disappointing to get this comment because

(01:12:27):
I used us as an example and said, our YouTube
is different than our audio, our responses. Some of the
things people say about us, Rod's face, Karen's clothing, not
wearing makeup, stuff like that while you always got a
sweater on, they're distracting to us as people who really
started this format in audio and would like to just

(01:12:47):
kind of keep it focused on that. It's very distracting.
That's not a TikTok thing. That's a human nature thing.
That's not a YouTube thing. That's all any place where
in video. That is an issue. I was trying to
point out that the book Amusing Ourselves to Death is
really good about what I'm trying to say. Maybe if
y'all got time to go read that, you'll get you'll

(01:13:09):
get to my point, because this, to me is facts.
This isn't my biases against TikTok or any other media.
These are just the facts of dealing with a visual
based medium. It isn't quote unquote fair. People in general
don't like fat bodies. People in general don't like darker skin,
people in general don't like women who aren't made up

(01:13:29):
to they like or they prefer women who are made
up versus women who are not. These aren't These aren't
just that, And TikTok having a naked algorithm caters to
people's biases. It's not trying to change them. TikTok's mission
isn't to be like, we need to open this up
so that when people look at all people from all
over the dash or they stop feeling so judgmental. No,

(01:13:53):
TikTok's like, fuck it, if you want to just see
titties on straight titties. If you just want to see
white people, I'm only gonna show you white people. And
so the point that I I wanted to make, that
I forgot to make the first time. The other reason
I'm like TikTok, and it's not just TikTok, but I
think TikTok is probably the biggest example of this. The
pretty privilege of TikTok is part of the reason there's

(01:14:15):
so much intellectual theft over there, because TikTok is not
concerned with uplifting creators. And we saw this in real
time when it first popped off, when they had the
TikTok dances going crazy. Black girls were inventing them, White
girls were getting to go on Jimmy Kimmel doing them.

(01:14:36):
Tell me I'm wrong, black girls inventing the dances, even
white girls just doing the dances as well. Much more viewership,
much more promotion, much more for you page just the default. Now, look,
if you only follow those black girl creators, maybe it's
your algorithm that's bias and showing you the black and

(01:14:57):
you're going, no, it's fine over here, and I'm going
there's a whole level above this that is based on
just theft and privilege. That is just like I'm white
and I'm making the same joke. There's so many sketches
I see, so many lip synces I see that are
just people hopping on a way, nothing creative or thought
provoking about it. And you got white people dancing to

(01:15:21):
that Kendrick Lamar forty acres and a mule, No reason
they should be dancing to that, and they're blowing up
with it. They're blowing up with it, and it's being
promoted and people are seeing it everywhere. That is what
I'm talking about. That place is it has its own
thumb on the scale and it is weighted towards a
certain type of image. And just because other people exist,

(01:15:45):
other people have one off success. I didn't say no
one who is conventionally unattractive quote unquote can be successful there.
I didn't say that. Nope, And I refuse to acknowledge
that as something that was because I don't play straw man.
If you want to interact with us on our feedback show,
this is part of good faith, This is part of listening.

(01:16:09):
You have to be able to be like this was said,
I don't want to hear is the tone. I felt like,
we're not talking about fact. At this point, we got
talk facts because if we can't have a conversation because
you felt the way, I can't be responsible for the
feelings of thousands of people who hear my voice and
take it how they want to take it. I refuse

(01:16:29):
to live in that world where like, well you took
it away. So I guess I have to pretend that
I said the thing I didn't say. Nope, I did
not say that. I acknowledge many times. It ain't everybody.
I acknowledged many times that are outliers. Resa Tisa went superviral,
got a deal, CAA and all that stuff. That does
not mean TikTok is like listen, TikTok lets that happen,

(01:16:51):
and they wanted that to happen, and they helped promote her. No,
they didn't. She happened in spite of the biases of
that platform period. I'll be shocked at da da dah Okay.
Even people who don't get get on disheveled. A lot
of content creators who produce very niche content are not
conventionally attractive, but the content they put out draws people
in I think the glam look was big in the pandemic,

(01:17:12):
but not so much now. Instagram is more centered on looks,
but TikTok is all about the content. Another follow up,
I didn't think the comment or was defending TikTok. I
think it was pointing out that their description of TikTok
wasn't wholly accurate, because you can accumulate a following and
make money on there without being super attractive in a
way that has not been done on ig Nobody is
defending righteousness on the app. We all know they boost
certain creators who have a certain aesthetic. But your characterization

(01:17:35):
of the content, the kind of content on the app
was not wholly accurate. I legitimately think I was being
very accurate, and I because I never said that was
all the content on there. And uh, I like, I
really don't know what it is that triggers something in
people about TikTok. I really don't get if I said
the same thing about matter of fact, you're saying it

(01:17:57):
about Instagram in your defensive TikTok, And the truth is
what you're saying about Instagram is not wholly representative of Instagram.
Many of the same creators who found success on TikTok
have found it on Instagram as well, whether they're bondets
or conventionally attractive or not. For some reason, there's a
weird reputationable shield around TikTok where people are like, no,

(01:18:20):
TikTok's not like that, it's like that, It's okay. They're
all kind of like that, depending on what they're what
the medium is. Tumblr is different. Tumblr had his own problems,
but Tumblr was not. At first it did not require
to be a visual medium. People were writing long form
essays and shit. Yeah yeah, so it just it just

(01:18:40):
it's the medium, not that's the message, is not. This
isn't about one of the apps. With all due respect
to someone who doesn't use the app, I think you can.
Let I do use the app though my nigga, So
that's not I just don't be on there like that constantly.
But I do use the app. I have the app
on my phone, like all y'all had app on y'all.
Froont This is not me coming down from on how

(01:19:02):
like I don't use the app? How could you ever?
Like I said, I create stuff on there. I know
the content, I know the comments I get on my
videos like I'm there too. It's just like I'm there
on Instagram and other places. I think you can let
the people who use it vouch for the kind of
content that's on there. It's still a terrible company, like
the rest of them is not pure in any way.

(01:19:22):
I'm just saying you don't have to be beautiful to access
on that. Okay, now I'm done. Cool. It seems like
we completely agree because I never said that you have
to beautiful to have success on there. I say it's
stripper talking politics, meaning that just like you don't have
to be beautiful in the strip club, quote unquote there,
you can go work at the strip club. It's still
defaults to the people that do more success in the
strip club are the people that people find esthetically pleasing. Period. Yes,

(01:19:45):
that is what it is like. You can accept that
as the ground rules when you look at a visual medium,
or you can pretend that it's not happening, but it
is happening that your eyes are discerning who and what
you will follow. And it does give a bump to
people because there's plenty of people who are actually assholes,
people that are wrong, people that politically are not that
as stupe but they look good and people will admit

(01:20:07):
to like, well, I'll just watch it because that person
looks good. And it happens all the time, all the time.
But for some reason, TikTok's the one where people don't
want to say that's happening. And I don't understand that impulse.
I don't. The rest of it I get, but the
idea of like no, no, no, no, no, guys not
here what yes here too everywhere? I even brought up newscasters,

(01:20:29):
like newscasters have to be attractive to tell us news.
You shouldn't need to be done up to the nines
to tell me on the nine. But because it's a
visual medium, we don't accept that. So it's just is
the fact. So it is what it is. Him deal,
says Rod, and carry y'all hit the hit on the conversation.
I have recently my people, all of the folks in

(01:20:52):
my life that used to remember everyone's phone number are
all out of order. Not one can remember more than
a few numbers because they just don't have to commit
to remembering those numbers anymore. That phone dies and then
they stuck with the person whose number they actually remember,
and they don't have a phone for some strange reason.
Just hang it up, y'all. Just living here wherever here
is now? Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Whatever here is?

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
But as I as a non remembering fellow, who you
start to write out the numbers on a little book
At times like feel like I had the key to
the phone kingdom. So every so often, where a friend
will call to ask me someone's number, I go to
my little book of numbers, then flip through. Most of
my people have been fairly responsible. Adults haven't changed their
number a decades, so it works.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
I am what I am that person. I never thought
I would be that old lady, but I am that
old lady.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I used to be like, damn, mama, you still got
that same number.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
I was like, oh, I get why you've got that
same number, because it ain't worth changing the goddamn number.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
I think about changing my number sometime, just because I'm like,
I'm tired of motherfucker's getting a hold of me. Let's
start this shit over. Yeah, I've just says Justice Department
shuts down law enforcement monitoring. But both sides are the same.
Voting doesn't matter, and now you have it. I tried
TikTok out when it started and found it was extremely addictive,
so I never went back. That's another thing. TikTok is

(01:22:05):
extremely addictive and and I think it's gonna be interesting
when when the studies are done to see like which
apps affected people in different ways, because TikTok is one
of those ones where like you can really go into
a time suck with it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Yes you can, yeah, look up in an hour, hour
and a half, it's been gone, and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
It was it's so addictive that I remember them putting
their own warnings on it, but that felt like cigarettes
labels on cigarette.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Like you've been on here for a while, because like
that's why there was a big thing about not having
endless scrolling, because with the endless scrolling and with TikTok,
like I literally look up in an hour two hours past,
it's like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
have to limit the amount of time that I'm on here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yeah. But you know, like I said, I don't I
think they're all smoking cigarettes. But I think it's I'm
more interested in the reputational pull that they've gotten. That's
the part that's interested to me about TikTok. It's not
like it's an app like any other app in some ways,
I think it's a little bit more addictive at this moment,

(01:23:16):
but something else can come along and be more addictive,
or something can happen on there, like ads or something
that fucks up the addictiveness of it. That happens all
the time with these apps, And next thing you know,
it's like I don't really be on Vine like that
or whatever because like, yeah, this shit.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Because it breaks. It does that break where you're like, oh,
I could be doing something else.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah. YouTube was like that for me for a while,
where like it felt like every like people were very
addicted to YouTube, and I'm sure they are to some extent,
but once they started throwing all those ads in there, people,
I felt like it broke up something for people where
it's like I don't need to sit on here all
day because now I'm just watching ad after ad and
there's five ads in the video. I'm good, yep, Like

(01:23:52):
I'm making a con And when an ad pops up,
I have to make a conscious choice to reinvest in
what I was watching. And once it's not passive, I
think it's easier for people to opt out anyway. But
I'm also extremely selected with my media consumption, because I
know that I can emotionally be affected pretty easily, even
if my brain knows that's not necessarily necessary. Yeah. I

(01:24:13):
try to be better about that too as well. R
Kelly maybe isn't doing himself any favors when he communicates
is where's my money? Instead of I'm a change man? Now? Right?
That's good? But what do I know? Maybe Trump will
free him soon. Yeah, just somehow, just out of spite
and make him a new national anthem that praises him.
I can see that happening. Your joke, But that could happen, Yes,
it could. Finally, the Terrors are helping someone, and it's great.

(01:24:37):
I'm sure everyone is happy for my daily Farmer news.
Drug makers Malik dropped and Indo are got a bump
from terrors six point seven billion dollar merger. Malink dropped
an Indo drug makers Indo. Is that like weed or
is that just how what they call it in Cali?
Uh huh yeah? Rolling down the street can endo? We

(01:25:01):
recently maybe Snoop was in bed with Big Farmer. The
whole time we didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
We had no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Rolling maulting dropped, smoking and no sipping on perkose sets
with recently emerged from bankruptcy after a while. I'm not
reading this shit. That's your letter. I don't give a fuck. Sorry,
but that's big Farmer news. Stephen A talks a good game,
says EV. But I bet he was nervous when Lebron

(01:25:28):
confronted him. I think he's lucky Lebron was at work
at the time because he might have got yoked up.
He reminds me of this reality show where one person
talks a lot of shit but they no security will
step in. Yes, steven A is just a weird though
for me. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
He just really wants to monopoly on the conversation and
feels like no one should challenge him, but he should
be able to challenge everyone, and he takes it personal
whenever someone does. And it's just like, dude, chill out.
What I mean, I hate to make it sound that similar,
but it's really like, chill out, man, You like you,
just like everybody else out here, you saying what you

(01:26:05):
want to say. You that giggas people get to say
stuff back. And people found the clips, and I was
not surprised. People found so many clips of him being
on TV telling people I'm not hard to find. You
know where to find me. I come to all the games,
pop show up, talk to me. Okay, it happened. And
then you went, why wasn't this a private phone call? Niggas,

(01:26:25):
shut up. Stop acting like you're not tough. You just
a guy, and that's okay. You get paid to be
a guy that gives opinions and sometimes you just take
an L. Should have took an L on this one. Hey, man, shit,
Lebron was right. I went hard on the Sun, and
you know, I can see how he took it personal
instead of you. I thought it was weak. I thought
it was bullshit, Like you know, you didn't you look

(01:26:49):
like yes sir, yes sir when that six' eight was
towering over you. You look like everybody else that six
eight towers over And honestly, we need more of that
energy in the world. I honestly think the NBA should
make a mandatory if you're going to do NBA media
throughout the year, they should make a mandatory summer league

(01:27:11):
where all y'all niggas have to play basketball and the final,
the final game should be y'all playing against actual NBA
G League players, And then we should be able to
sit back and be like, yeah, Steven as talking a
lot of shit, but it humanizes him because we all
saw him airball at three that time, and then we
just go, yeah, No one should take any of this

(01:27:31):
that seriously, not you hating on the NBA and not
the NBA people hating back on y'all. That would be nice,
but they'll never happen anyway. Comments on YouTube the car
show is probably your cars and coffee. Yeah, everybody kept
saying that in the chat room with Shad Cars and coffee. Yeah,
I guess they do a car show where they show
up at breakfast spots and they drink coffee and look

(01:27:53):
at each other's cars. Alicia says those technical issues happen
because Mercury is in retrograde. That's all. Next time you
gotta check the stars, Rod third I opened. Alisha also says,
was it Firefest where that middle aged white man had
to suck some dingling for water? He said he would
suck some dingling for water, But uh, that was one

(01:28:15):
of the funniest memes of all time. That was a
good day. I am Talicia says that wide eyed, what
the fuck look on Kara's face when Rod read about
the Inmate podcast had me rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I don't know what was happening.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Curtis says the car show was most likely a car
and coffee meat the owner. Sometimes a particular car club
will meet at a restaurant or donut shop for breakfast.
Old heads like me prefer this because it tends to
eliminate the more rowdy elements who tend to be disruptive.
No hoopies, great show.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Oh it is breakfast time, so yeah, yeah, you don't
get the reasonable people out there with with like credit
scores and for one cage go. I like this shit,
but I'm not trying to do nothing. I just want
to I just want to eat some bacon and eggs.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Go home, right, Turn that shit down.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Just too loud.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
People we meet out of hydrauli. I'm trying to drink
coffee over again. What you're doing? I lean to the
side because of my hip, not my hydraulic.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Aaron says, looking like a ballerina that need to take
a bath or something. I guess there must have been
something we said, Jason says. Man if Jim Bush had
rolled up on Trump the way bron did, Stephen A
where he talked about his family. We might not be
here where we are as a country right now. There's
nothing like watching the alpha leave of man's body haha.

(01:29:29):
But the sports media is more united than the police
when you attack one of their own. I have no
idea what they're gonna talk about once Lebron hangs it up. Yeah.
I appreciate my man Nick right for calling it like
he sees it because I listen to this latest episode
of this podcast, and like, I appreciate him because I
know he's a big Lebron fan, Tiger Woods fans, all

(01:29:49):
this stuff, but I actually appreciate him being willing to
be like, nah, stephen A was wrong on this, and
I hope it doesn't cost us our friendship, but if
it does, is like because I don't think he was
personally insulting to man, but it's like, I have to
be fair and I appreciate that impost and people because
I think a lot of these people behind the scenes,

(01:30:09):
these media folks, they have a lot of connections to
each other, a lot of stuff with agents and deals
and all this type of stuff, and they have biases,
but they try to act like they don't. And it
just like anyone listening to anybody. If y'all listen to
me long enough, you will be like, oh, he doesn't
like generally this person or this thing. It's weird when

(01:30:33):
you can't admit to like, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Yeah, that's end. I don't like it the end.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Yeah, not that I can't change my mind on it,
but as of right now, no, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
And I actually find it a bit relieving when you
genuinely just don't like something to say it, because I
think it helps to me. It helps me when I'm like, yeah, man,
I don't like the way so and so gets down,
and because then I don't have to like keep doing like, well, okay,
I have to be fair. Well no, I'm actually I don't.
Don't have to be fair all the time. I try
to be, but sometimes it's like people, I'm like, I

(01:31:03):
can't be fair to that person. If R. Kelly pops up,
I'm never going to be seeing his side of the issue,
So stop bringing them up to me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Ain't that the true?

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Or don't or just fast forward five minutes. If you
need that someone to be one hundred percent neutral, just
pass forward, because I'm not gonna be one hundred percent
neutral and it's okay, you know anyway, Hugh Golden said,
still the best in the business. Thank you. All right,
voicemail times, and I believe we got quite a few voicemails.

(01:31:32):
Of course Skype wants to read download. I'll play music
and then we'll come right back with with this in
the second. Here we go. It's all right. The first

(01:32:13):
one is from number I don't know, let's see what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
Hey, y'all, Hey, I came to the live show and
I was just so super excited to see everybody there.
The last time you guys did a live show, it
was landed on the same day as my brother's wedding,
and I feel real, was like, uh, this is just
a vowel renewal right, it's not the actual way. Y'all

(01:32:38):
not gonna miss me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
I had to make that decision. I was like, ah,
so it was kind of cool.

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
I was able to go this time, and I just
wanted to say, y'all did a fabulous job. Karen, you
are so beautiful. Oh my god, everybody was there. It
was such a blast, and everybody who couldn't make it,
I am so sorry because we had a ball.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Did yeah, thank you. You didn't say your name, but
appreciate you and thank you, thank you for the coin words.
Next is from Dre.

Speaker 7 (01:33:16):
Going on Rod and Karen. This might take one and
a half boys fails, we're gonna try and do it
in one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
So right.

Speaker 7 (01:33:26):
I take my oldest daughter to her to work to
school every morning on my way to work. She's eighteen,
and so she's old enough to kind of get what's
going on. I'm listening to the podcast pretty much every morning,
but her credit is something I think you'll ask me
proud of Rod, if it's not just the race or
like something like real silly. The seven minutes it takes

(01:33:49):
me to get hurt of school, like rarely issued in
the car long enough to get the full context of
what's being talked about. So it's not like she doesn't
like the show, but she's just not. She could tell
us she's at she's trying to hint her own thing.
I say all that to say that I still kind
of watch her reactions for different things up I'm her dad.

(01:34:10):
I want to see if she thinks the things I
think are funny or funny, you know, whatever can I do?
Like you know, sometimes I'll see her laughing and giggling
about different things, you know whatever, so I know she's
kind of aware of what's going on the podcast. Were
listening to the other day and Karen said something and
she just kind of starts cracking up. I don't even
remember what the fun was. She just starts cracking up.

(01:34:30):
She's like, Man, Karen is always so funny, and I
bring up process. Man, you know that's funny because there's
actually people who being that Karen doesn't bring anything to
the podcast and that all she does is agree with
Rod when I tell you that her jaw hits the
full or.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
She could not fathom how someone could listen to this podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
Hold, I'm just gonna hang up and go all right back, okay. Anyway,
she could not fathom how someone could actually listen to
this podcast and feel that Karen provides no value to
the show. To make it even further, she doesn't listen
to the show enough to be like emotionally invested in

(01:35:13):
Karen in the way that the rest of us are.
She's actually only looking at this from like a technical perspective.
She's like, if it was only rid, the podcast would
not be as entertaining.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
It would be like two, I don't know Rod. You
know how niggas like us could be know it all.
You know nas who people feel like they know every
damn thing.

Speaker 7 (01:35:36):
Like if it was only Rid.

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
Talking, it wouldn't be as quality.

Speaker 7 (01:35:41):
Of a product, no matter how much you love Rod, because.

Speaker 6 (01:35:44):
You know, we goes up for Rod too.

Speaker 7 (01:35:46):
But for whatever reason, niggas don't feel so comfortable slandering
Rod on this motherfucker.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
Probably because they know what.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
Anyway, whatever you did.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
My point, all I'm saying is any motherfucker saying Karen
don't provide the show is nothing but a hater. They
woke up that morning and said, I'm gonna hate on
the first motherfucker I hear today, and they push play
on your podcast and had to have been off because
there's no other logical explanation.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Right you shout out to your baby.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Yes, shout out to the baby. Yeah, I agree completely.
It's it's just like it's like how people just don't
like you eat the cake. You don't know what how
to make a cake. I feel like that's what people
be doing. Your ass would not be here if she
wasn't here. It just is what it is. I'm not
that good by myself. And it's not that I don't

(01:36:37):
feel like I'm good at all. I just I've listened
to people that have to do a podcast like yourself.
It's fucking hard, it's really you gotta. And then sometimes
like the other perspective needs to be in the room.
Questions need to be in the room. Elaboration needs to
be in the room. Back and forth need to be
in the room. Uh, that calling response when when I'm
taking a breath or just stopping for whatever, you and

(01:37:00):
that shit matters, it needs to be in there. Someone
making a different fucking point than the one you're making
need to be in there. Someone getting to the point
faster than you would have and saving time. That shit
need to be there. Motherfuckers just do not know what
the fuck they're talking about. And that's why I always
end those with like, if you think you can do this, better,
go fucking do it. I would love everybody who's ever

(01:37:21):
complained about Karen or our podcast, I would love them
to go try to make even a hundred episodes of
a podcast, a hundred and then come back and fucking apologize,
because you're not gonna be better than us and this
shit and you're gonna say, oh, I didn't know. It
was just fucking hard, my bad. You know, it's just ridiculous.
But yeah, I'll shout out to your baby. And I

(01:37:42):
don't take offense. I don't. I don't even listen to
me on the podcast. Karen will go back and listen
to us, and I don't. I don't. I said it.
I'm good. I don't need to hear nigga that think
you know everything. I am back, guy, I'd probably be
listening to my own shit like nigga that you think
you know everything?

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
What about the did you think about that? And I
know I don't know everything?

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
All right? Next one, Hey, this messages for Rod. It's
Frank calling from That's great news I have sent you.
Oh yeah, yeah, all right. I don't want to I
don't want to mess that up later, all right, Uh,
next one, miss Bars.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
You know, computer lady will be all right. But anyway,
like I was saying, I didn't know, I was sitting
next to Shoe Boody during the show, and then behind
me was k Can and also Felt five was sitting
next to Kate Cano Felt five and his wife, but
yeah and Ello one then also matt Rona Raphael. It
was just so nice meeting everybody. Oh damn, I forgot

(01:38:42):
that Domina's wife was there too. That was fun and just.
And also during the meet and greet, I loved talking
to your parents. Your parents are so nice in your face,
I think in your Facebook post with the pictures the
photographer got meet, she got me giving your mama hug,
and so it was it's just and then I, you know, afterwards,

(01:39:04):
I was talking with Justin and your dad and Mary
and so, and it was really all kinds of fun.
But yeah, it was running around taking pictures, giving hugs.
It was so nice. But you know, I also wanted
to mention that sometimes, like whenever I meet you, I
don't I don't stay too long because I would verbally

(01:39:28):
hold y'all's hostage. I really would, because there's so much
stuff I just want to tell you. But it's like, yeah,
I would hold y'all hostage. Y'all would get tired of
me and so and the next thing, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:39:39):
I'm banned.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
So I just want to say that's part of the
reason why I don't kind of stick around. I get
my hug and then I run, cause, like I said,
I was so hold y'all hostage. But anyway, I want
to say thank you so much for the Internet family reunion.
Only in the Rod and Carry universe. Can we have
a wonderful time like this into that. I just simply

(01:40:00):
say thank you. It was I was so looking forward
to it and I just can't say thank you enough.
And it was a pleasure meeting everybody at the last show.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Take care, thank you, that's sweet, she left voicemail.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
I wasn't done, so, just like at the at the
the Basketball Jones show, like you really look great, Rock,
you really really look good, and I just have to
shine some light on Karen as well. Karen looked absolutely stunning.
Oh my god, she looks so good and so and

(01:40:36):
I meant to tell her that, but like I said,
I will hold you all like I'm doing all these
voicemails anyway. Again, I just wanted to say thank you.
I am happy, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Have a wonderful too, and I would. These were the
only two voicemails that showed up, miss bar That's how
she was in a chat and said it didn't play
the first one. I don't know what happened with the
first one. It just these are the only two that
were all here, but I think we got the gist
of it and we appreciate it, and d yeah, everybody's
so considering it, so conn. I didn't feel like anyone
was holding us out, and I felt like everybody was

(01:41:10):
trying to be mindful of like other people wanted to
talk to us and stuff, and that that felt really
dope and mine left of voicemail.

Speaker 8 (01:41:18):
Oh that's by fast okay, but anyway, real quick, I
really love the new theme song for when Karny changed
Rod's minds. I really like that, and good fit for
for y'all forgetting a new theme song because I'm still

(01:41:39):
tired people writing about that because it's a myth. Yes, incorrect,
but all right. I love y'all have a great weekend.
Bye bye bye, Thank you, sweetie.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
I agree, and I appreciate it, and uh yeah, I'm
glad we got the song now because damn like.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Anyway, next voice, ma'am, Hello, Roddy Karrin.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
This is Erica.

Speaker 9 (01:42:07):
I just wanted to again congratulate you on a fantastic
live show. I've been looking forward to this ever since
you dropped those tickets, and it did not disappoint The
TBTS dec Te community is Max. I got to hang
out with miss Barnes. I got to meet a think

(01:42:29):
pretty smart in person, which was like, I was really
excited because I was an avid listener of all pretty
much all episodes of Whiskey Wanna Moonshine, and everybody was
really great. I was just really excited, and thank you
so much for signing that picture. Like I was worried
about being late, so I got off work early and
printed that picture so y'all can sign it. But anyway,

(01:42:52):
I wanted to make a comment about Joe and Fabric.
I'm kind of sad to see it closed. I feel
like that was a part of my childhood. My grandma
quote quote at Avid Lead at one time, and I
remember going to Joining Fabrics and walking up and down
the aisles, wandering and just looking at all of this

(01:43:14):
and cool stuff that I didn't know how to do
a beg heard technique for that, I get yarn a crochet.
So it's a it's I'm becoming sad to see it go.
And I'm also wondering, like for those people who do
quote and so in all these other crafts besides Michael's,
where would they go? Where they fabric collection. So I'm

(01:43:35):
just sad to see it go amongst all the other
stories like Patta City, y'all have a great day. Thank
you for all the wonderful shows and just seeing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
You, thank you, thank you, and you bought up a
good point because even though I think when people, when
people don't do something or they don't invest in things,
they actually don't give a fuck about it. Like the libraries,
a lot of people go, who gets a fuck? But
there are people that actually utilize these things. And that's
kind of how Joannes is because like you said, it's
Michael's now are nothing like there's no competition.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
And the thing is their whole communities around this. They
have like quitting.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Conferences, they have like groups.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
You know, and on top of that, for a lot
of these places depend on how they set up. A
lot of times they do quitting classes, they do crochet classes.
They show you how to use your sewing machines, particularly
as sewing machines got more advanced, which means they got
more computerized, more chip innovative, more online and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
Particularly, you know, it's a lot of older people that sow,
and so a lot of times they would have classes
to teach the older people how to use this more advanced,
you know, technology, so that they won't be doing shit
for hours by hand the old school bay No. And
the thing is, some of those machines could be you
could spend like a thousand, two thousand dollars or so
of them machines you're gonna get like the top of
the line machine that can literally anything you can think of,

(01:44:58):
you can put it on there. And so you know,
they actually did more than just sell chit, you know.
And then when you go to some of them, they
even shopping knives and all like that. Like it's a
lot of things that it's a lot of things that
these places do that people take for granted when they're
on utilize the services and they just peer there go
it don't matter. But it does matter because for some
people they don't have Michaels around them because Michaels is

(01:45:20):
not everywhere, and so you need like an alternative.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
And you're not trying to be funny, dog, the ship
in Walmart fucking sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
As somebody who's been in there, you look like, oh,
this is the size of a fucking room.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
What can I do with this that you have no
choice of fabrics. You have no chruice up.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Like it is not good at all, Like like if
you're looking for if you want variety, Walmart, ain't it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Yeah, it's upsetting me in my homegirl because we feel.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
Like, well damn and you can't go too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Well, can you go? Child?

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
You can't go to joint fabrics? All right, let's do
one more songs than it's time for the email, all right,

(01:46:32):
Michelle writes in shall Rod and Karen, I hope you're
doing well. I just wanted to take a moment to
say thank you for the incredible work you do. Your
podcast has been such an inspiration to me, and I
truly appreciate insight, storytelling, and authenticity you bring to each episode.
I'm in the early stages of launch of my own podcast,
sharing the wisdom Rich says or advice passed out through
generations in African American communities. I love to hear any

(01:46:54):
advice you might have, especially when it comes to equipment
and lessons learned. If there's anything you wish you had
known when you were starting out, I'd be grateful for
any wisdom you can share. I know you're busy, so
I appreciating time. You can spare it either way. Just
want to express my gratitude for the work you put
into the show. Keep doing what you do, and I'm
gonna reply right now to her and say we are

(01:47:14):
answering your question on the latest episode of the show
around the what time is it our fifty minute mark?
There you go, so all right. I would say that
the best all the best advice is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Boring yep, which people don't want to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Yeah, it's like fitness where people are like, the best
thing you do is stay consistent and committed to your
goals and eat less and do this. It's just what
it is. Consistency is the biggest thing. Showing up for
yourself is the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
I think in the schedule it works for you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
Yeah. I think things I wish I had known starting
out early is that it's never too early to monitorze.
If you have ideas about what you want to do,
meaning if you are like I want to have a
Patreon one day, If you have an idea of what
you want to put behind a Patreon, the better you
start the club. Faster you start off, the better off
you are. You get used to asking for those that

(01:48:16):
money you get used to creating that product. It's not
making more work for yourself, and it'll be rewarding as
you watch more and more people slowly trickle in and go, oh,
there was content already here. I think that's a big thing.
I think, don't worry too much about any advice about
the format. Find a format that works for you. Yeah,

(01:48:39):
many people have advice that honestly, they even with research,
they can't really truly know. So, you know, I remember
every time we do like a podcast pay on stuff
and people start asking questions and stuff. When we're on
there with these big heavy hitter, heavyweight people, they say
stuff that I think is like, oh, no, that's not
true for us, so it might be true for them.

(01:49:01):
But when we're there in combat, Jack's like, wait till
you get one hundred thousand downloads before you start monetizing.
I'm like you in your basement and your fair bedroom
or whatever, you're never getting a hundred thousand downloads a episode.
So don't wait for that as a sign because you'll
feel like a failure and you'll never make money. Start
where you start and find what you're comfortable with and

(01:49:23):
do that. You know, so you already have an idea
for what you want to do. As you do the episodes,
you'll tighten up the format and be open to change.
I would say that like if episode ten you realize, like, oh,
you know what, actually I should do a definition of

(01:49:44):
the of the saying first and then I interview the person. Yeah,
then be open to the fact that, Okay, I used
to do it differently, but now I'm doing it now,
I'm going to do it a different way that I
think it's better accept those changes because a lot of
times people get rigid and like what I didn't start
off with this idea. That's okay. People listening know that
wrestling after the fact, they know you're a human being,

(01:50:06):
and they'll welcome the things that you think improve the show.
And also don't be like I said, be open to change,
meaning be open to being like, ah, this isn't working. Okay,
so maybe the definition putting the definition of the saying
at the beginning, it's actually not working for the show.
Now I'm not gonna I'm gonna take that out all
together and just go straight into the interview. If it
works for you, that's fine. If it's fun for you

(01:50:29):
to doing, fun for you to listen to it'll be
fun for the audience.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
It will be like Roger said, it's like can work out,
just be consistent, pick a schedule that they'll or whatever
that you can keep and just put them out and
get you like whatever. The social media accounts just tag like.
That's when we were kind of already on top of
it because we had individual social media accounts, but then
we kind of branch out to the social media account

(01:50:55):
specifically for your podcast. A lot of people don't do that,
and I think you do yourself a service because a
lot of times people want to reach out to you,
and it's easy for them to reach out to something
with the brand ow it versus reaching out to you individually,
because because then you have a staple and you kind
of build an audience around whatever the podcast is versus
you individually, which is something it's easy for people to

(01:51:18):
follow that than to follow your individual account.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
I've realized that, so.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Mom says, Hey Rider, Cara. Besides missing out on being
there live, I also joined the Zoom Late Miss Summer
jail sept because of work. But as soon as I joined,
I saw emojis in the chat knew it was a
good time for jail so good. Hope he was able
to feel the love. I've got so much love for
you guys in the whole black Outet community, singing along
when I couldn't hear the music, cackling folks in the
chat were trying to figure out the white people knews

(01:51:41):
lyrics nobody knows, and just like feeling parasocially proud of
my friends on stage doing their thing. Please tell me
Karen knows. The zoom chat was full of us raving
about how pretty she looked. Gorgeous, right, you look good too,
and you look both look so happy, like you were
able to enjoy yourselves. I was enjoying myself. I I
felt great, that's my element. That was so fun. Signed

(01:52:04):
off early, but I was able to virtually cheer everyone
for everyone, including being super excited that felt five was
their nice surprise. Audience choice was dope Idea. Thank you.
I didn't expect the feedback show the next day. Of course,
my PA is already working on ways to get updated
audio for us to enjoy and thanking everyone that made
the day, especially y'all truly the best, and next time
I'll be back in their live audience where I belong.

(01:52:24):
Congrats on another live show Some Moon. Thank you Samon,
and yeah I did get that audio out, so I
hope people were able to enjoy that old shows. This
is from Caz, who says I put on your old
shows to go to sleep at night. I need noise
to sleep. Arizona is too quiet. Anyway. It was a
COVID episode and I felt it. My company shut down
in March twenty twenty and reopen in June twenty twenty.

(01:52:46):
I took all the precautionous mask gloves, et cetera, and
I stayed healthy until February twenty twenty four. Had to
take my dog to the vet. Didn't think about COVID.
Two days later, I felt like crap and was just
fucking tired. Took a home test in Hello COVID also
so I wanted. All I wanted to do was sleep,
But we have animals to take all take care of,
and I had to get my brother to come over

(01:53:06):
to deal with them and made my dogs stay the
fuck away from me. I had gotten all the boosters
since then and I ain't playing with this shit. All
this to say, I love all your pods, Thank you,
thank you. That's what the old shows is for. To
help you get through. Let's see what else we got here? Oh,
anti fog glasses, Andre Nette says, love the show. Yes,

(01:53:31):
you can get prescription glass with anti fol coding. Anti
fold coding is usually applied to the manufacturing process and
can be added to many types of lenses. How it works,
anti foul coating is made of hydrophilic compounds that absorb water.
The coating is permanently sealed into the lenses or integrated
into the plastic. It works by preventing conversation from forming
on the lenses. Next time you visit the eye doctor

(01:53:51):
for a new pair, you should ask them about it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
I will I do, even if I don't get it,
just I just want to know because because like I said,
they give you like a laundry list of shit, and
that's been Also.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Sometimes it's trade offs too, So it's like if you
want glasses that get dark, sometimes it's like, Okay, you
can get that, but you can't get this. Oh you
want the reflective lens clothing coding, you can get that,
but you can't get this.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Ah, Like they have a limitation to what the lenses
can take.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Yeah, because I forgot what it was, but it was
like like if you get reflective lens coding, you can
you don't have to get anti glare coding or something
like that. Like if you get the tinted glasses, you
don't have to get the anti glare whatever option, But
if you get the anti glare option, you can't get
the tinting option. Like you either get both of them,
or you can't or you can't just get one. Okay, anyway,

(01:54:41):
uh man Ganghi says, I'm watching this episode of star
Talk and set up and to set up scientists and
comedia make it palpable. I'm probably being a hater, but
you'd be so much better than this dude sitting here
right now. Can we do something to get you on there?
Or is that not in your spirit of nerdom Star Talk?
I don't think so. Anyway, been a while, I love
the show, Karen's Hair, the Live pop out with Superlative

(01:55:04):
and Nigga. I see the flex in those ig thirst traps.
Keep up the healthy work, homie. I will keep up
the healthy work. I will not define what I'm doing
as thirst trapping yet we hopefully one day, hopefully we
just k brown. Yeah, that's when it is gonna be
a thirst trap. If I get to Sterling K. Brown level,

(01:55:26):
then I'm gonna be out here like, man, this guy
will not wear a shirt. What's the problem. I can't
just go to church with no shirt on it, just
a tie, Mary says, Hi, Ryan and Karen wanted to
drop a thank you for the amazing live show. In
addition to seeing you to I was especially excited to
meet people from the live chat. What a wonderful community
to have created. I got to meet in real life. Ms. Barnes, K. Cane,

(01:55:46):
the cast always at the years of being in the
chat room together. I even learned Tps's government name. I'll
never tell. I really don't know how to explain what
I was doing in Charlotte to people. I'm still not
really sure what kind of connection this is, but I
feel it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
I went to see a live podcast recording ran a
five K. You know, I guess you could just lie
and be like I was in there to do a
five K, guys. I'm just I'm so I guess you guys.
I mean, I'm sure y'all take y'all health pretty seriously,
but I take it very seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
I'm on the next level of health.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
If I hear anyone's doing a five K anywhere, I'm there.
So I across the country just to be in this
weird five K in Charlotte, just to be like, yeah,
got you, Okay, I'm collecting these.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Metals and you can't out help me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Lastly, I wanted to say tell you how much your
health journey has inspired me. Remember you A care had
done a five K. I went to see if one
was happening when I would be there, and when you
know it, the why I'm saying five K was happening
to day after the show. Yeah, I would have done
that one if but we did the show today before.
I was like, I'm not playing nothing the next day,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
I had to recover the whole weekend like.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Once the show is over, like there's a relief, but
also like a like I don't feel like doing nothing
that I felt. So I was just like, I know,
I can imagine I'm not wanting to get up at
five in the morning and do this shit. Ran it
and I won my age group. Yes, group, see that's
what you lot. A lot of them are tell him
that's what it was. But oh yeah, I had to go.

(01:57:13):
I heard some people in my age group was talking shit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
I got to outrun all these bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
Yeah, I heard they was I heard that. I heard
they was talking shit in the forty and up group,
and I said, I'm done with that bullshit. I'll see you.
I'll see you over by the Bank of America Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Bit I'm number one. I'm number one in my age group.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Anyone, thanks for all you do and see you some
thank you. This is from Nathalie says, Hey, Karad the right.
I was one of the people pissed and disappointed at
the ten congressmen who voted to censor Al Green. I
know the censure doesn't really mean anything at the end
of the day, but one Congressman who voted to censure
was Jim Hallims of Connecticut, and I'm wanted his constance.
Constitution constituents.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
He's one of the ones that led to charge for
Biden a step down running for real, saying Biden was
declining funny enough. He didn't call for Biden and resigned
from presidency. Though Haines represents a very blue part of Connecticut,
he tweeted his reasons for censure, and it doubled down
the day after he mentioned if one breaks bends the
rules in defense of the rules because of being passionate.
That would lead to chaos. We're already there. He's also

(01:58:19):
mentioned the two thousand and nine he voted to censure
the guy who yet at President Obama. That's fine, but
we are far removed from the atmosphere of O nine.
He also said that we are an inflection point. No,
we aren't. We have passed that inflection. Also the reason
why he had to go back all the way to
old nines because he wasn't against censoring. Marjorie Taylor Greed
ever see the talib in twenty twenty three. Oh, he
was against them. Okay, he was against censoring. He also

(01:58:42):
bought Luigi Maggione into it. What heim Hans could kick Rocks.
I've contacted his office to let him know how I
feel is that is the least I could do with
someone who has voted for him and lives in his district. Anyway,
I knew it wouldn't stop at the censia. Republicans also
want to move Congressman Green from Congressional committe he's on.
I don't know what the process will be for all

(01:59:03):
of that. Their dumb asses also want to punish the
congress members who are singing we shall over come on
the Florida House. Yeah, that's one of the reason I
didn't get mad about singing we shall overcome, because I
said to the Republicans, it's just his opposition or they
don't care. They want zero opposition zero. But but but, Natalie,
I feel I think what you're doing is what I'm

(01:59:24):
talking about. I think it's fine you live in his district, right,
Hopefully y'all keep the same energy if y'all find another
candidate the primary him and y'all decide to go with
that person because they like I wouldn't have voted up
over that, and y'all really feel that way two years
from now, whenever he's up. I completely support that. That
is the political process. That's not just tweeting on Twitter.

(01:59:47):
I like that you contacted his office to be like,
I ain't with.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
That shit, right, you got to stack in it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
I fully support this, Like I don't want anyone to
think because I think things can be lost in translation
or whatever not, I personally don't live in those districts
and don't give a fuck. And even whether they would
have voted for against, wouldn't have made any difference to me.
It's nothing I can do about it. And it's such

(02:00:12):
a symbolic vote that it's just like get upset or
don't get upset. I don't mind. But that being said,
if they was from our district, it's gonna be a
I'm gonna remember.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna remember because I'm not anti.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
I'm not forgive and forget. I am very much like, no,
I remember the shit you did, even in my own district,
Like it's people here where all our city council. I'll
be like, nah, I remember that shit our school board, Nah, player,
I remember that shit. And there's also shit where i'd
be like, you know stuff I don't care about her
stuff that I'm like, I remember that shit in a
positive way. It's not all negative, but the point being like,

(02:00:49):
I think we all should strive to be more connected
to our local politics as well as the national stage
a lot more. And I don't want to just turn
it into just only the negative stuff for Democrats. But
I don't think you're doing that at all. I know
everyone has a role to play and not everyone will
be a Congressman Green, which is fine, but I do

(02:01:10):
think it would be meaningful to show support at times
of scenes Dems are uncoordinated and don't have a plan,
which is frustrating. Yeah, but it's also like, it's frustrating,
but it's also true democracy a practice the Democrats pay
a price for being for being committed to democratic ideals,

(02:01:37):
like having a party where someone can be centrist, someone
can be extreme, someone can be moderate or whatever you
want to say within the party and they're still part
of the party, whereas Republicans have this way of just
excising anyone who is Yeah, anyone who has a conscience

(02:02:00):
who's like, what if what we're doing isn't right has
to go. Democrats pay a cost for that because it like,
if AOC shows up and says what we're doing isn't right,
she don't have to go. Like, I think that's essential
for democracy, but I also think that it hurts in
a day and age where people say stuff like, well,
you guys don't look organized, Well, this is organized. What

(02:02:23):
we don't look like is that we're all being forced
to walk the same line. What it looks like is
that AOC and Nancy Pelosi can say Chuck Schumer, you
got this wrong, and Chuck Schumer still in the party,
and Alc and Nancy are still in the party for now.
And if there is a way that Chuck Schumer will

(02:02:44):
be ousted, it won't be because you know, Joe Biden
or somebody made him. It'll be because he wasn't effective,
or the democratic process someone challenged him in won. I
think that matters as opposed to what we see on
the Republican side, where I would argue Republicans are extremely
uncoordinated because they live by the whims of Donald Trump,

(02:03:06):
and Donald Trump's whims literally can be the opposite the
next day, and they will. It looks coordinated if you
just look at it from a million feet away, but
if you look at it at if you look at
it on a day to day basis, like, no, you
guys are saying the opposite thing yesterday, and you guys
are kicking people out of your party, like Liz Chainey

(02:03:27):
because she's like, what, I don't agree with this, you
know what I'm saying. So there's something there, though, You're right,
and I get I guess it's frustrated in that their
freedom is frustrating. This is a check on myself, though,
because I have to ask myself, do I want Dems
to be like Republicans who show support for their leader
in public, but when you hear behind closers, they are
expressing worry and fear. No, I don't, but there has

(02:03:48):
to be a better way. Yeah, I don't know what
the better way would be. I don't know. I don't
know what it is. Because I think I will say this.
This is the thing I will say. I do think
right now is an inflection point on Chuck Schumer and
his brand of leadership. And I am very intrigued as
to what comes out of this because I have never

(02:04:11):
seen this. Many types of Democrats that are used to
infighting agree that this guy is reading the room wrong
and reading the moment wrong. And I know because I'm
one of those kind of people that is typically very
level headed in like, listen, man, this is a tough situation.
Blah blah blah. I listened to Chuck Schumer, and once again,

(02:04:34):
I'm not Chuck Schumer hater. Y'all ain't never heard me
shit on this man on this show. I don't do
the I'll just shouting on him because y'all shitting on him.
That's other people's opinions and roles. I think This was
a very bad decision and a bad mystery, and I
don't think the logic holds up that he is presenting.
And maybe there's some behind the scenes shit. Well I
don't understand the behind the scene shit of it, either,

(02:04:56):
like there's ways that they normally leak behind the scenes stuff,
or it's like, actually, Chuck Schumer was giving cover to
these ten Democrats who are in purple states and they're
losing in the polls, and they're word they're gonna lose
their seats this year, so they need to vote for
this shit, but they can't be seen as like breaking
with the party line, so he has to give cover.
I can understand that, but I haven't really even seen

(02:05:18):
those kind of leaks. It's just been to him going, I,
you know, this is a time where we have to
come together because the government should not do this, and
I'm just like, yeah, bro, I don't think people agree.
I think you're kind of out on your own here,
and people would like to see you, especially in a
minority position, minority leadership of your party, whip up the

(02:05:41):
votes and be like, nah, we're standing strong and Republicans
need to do this shit on their own. When you
want it done. You do the dirty work. Yeah, it's
just I don't know, man, that's crazy anyway. On a
separate topic, I have and now what he thinks is
the ultimate nightmare will come to pass, which is another
reason I unders and the logic of it. His thing

(02:06:01):
is like, well, they gonna blame Democrats. They're definitely going
to blame Democrats now. And it's sad because it's let's see,
what was it, ten votes, so ten out of like
forty something. So it's sad because twenty five percent of
y'all did this, and all the Democrats will pay a parties.
People won't say these ten Democrats. They'll say Democrats and

(02:06:25):
Chuck Schumer. You did that. So when people don't see
Democrats as the fighters of against Trump next election cycle,
part of this will be you contributing to that narrative
by telling them to stand down or that it's okay
to stand down, and then a percentage of them standing down,
but all of them being seen as people that stand down.

(02:06:47):
You knew that's the media environment before you did that move.
I know he's probably hoping people forget, but I don't
think people are gonna forget because this budget to a
lot of people. There's like this budget is a mandate
and a blank check to actually go and destroy the
government as we know it, and so people won't see
it as at least you kept the government open. They're

(02:07:08):
gonna be like, no, they would not have been able
to do as much damage as they did without you
appeasing them. And I really do think the leverage the
Democrats had in this moment, and I'm saying the Democrats
because Chuck Shum was the leader, I think the leverage
was we won't vote for this. You guys will have

(02:07:31):
to go back to the drawing board. You're gonna have
to either make concessions to those two members or whatever.
But you're gonna have to make some concessions to us,
or you're gonna have to pass a resolution that is
only thirty days your will go do it. And I think.

Speaker 4 (02:07:44):
That that would have meant something to people, But instead
people gonna do what they're doing, and that's sad. Anyway,
On a separate topic, I've been feeling super tired lately.
I've been craving more cars than usual.

Speaker 1 (02:07:56):
Also having worked out in three weeks after being on
a great six week stretch of work, and I know
it's related to that. I saw your recent IG post
hyping yourself up about losing ten more pounds and also
putting on more muscle. Congrats, thank you. Yeah. I took
the end Body test this week. That's the test where
like you gotta take off your shirt and your socks
and shoes and shit, and standing on this thing and

(02:08:16):
hold your arms out and it like does an electronic
thing where it like measures your body and how much
water is in there and stuff. And so the last
like I say, month or so, I've been on the
scale about the same way, like it's been really slowing down,
like how much weight I'm losing. But I was never

(02:08:36):
really like heavily concentrated on just the weight number. I've
been concentrating on like how I feel, concentrating on my
fitness and stuff that I'm able to do that I
wasn't able to do before, concentrating on stuff like my
stamina and all this stuff, and just like lifting weights,
my form, all this stuff, staying active, standing in the gym,
blah blah blah. Anyway, So but still, you know, as

(02:08:57):
part of this measurement system, of the things I do
is weigh myself every like so often, and so seeing
that scale number start slowing down and stuff, I was
kind of like, man, I know I'm doing the right things,
but like, and I'm eating the right way and all this,
but it's just kind of like, man, that's I hate
looking at this number not changed that much. And so

(02:09:18):
the mbody is great. I don't know if you guys
have anybody wherever you're at, but it's really great because
you can say, yeah, my weight is about the same.
But I saw that I had lost ten pounds or
so of fat some I forget the exact number, but
I want to say it was like ten or so
pounds of fat. But I had gained like three pounds

(02:09:41):
of muscle or four pounds of muscle since November. And
that is just me staying in the gym and lifting
and and so you know, my my body fat percentage
went down. And I know people say muscleways it's more dense,

(02:10:02):
so always more than fat, blah blah. But I don't know,
it's something relieving about like, Okay, at least these numbers
are showing me my workout is still happening. It's a change.
I'm not just doing it for nothing, right And and
corresponding to the good feelings that I'm having about myself
and my body. The work percentage in the and the

(02:10:22):
goals are are still happening. Whether I can see them
on a scale or not, that that matters to me.
So uh and my you know, my trainer told me
to share the stuff on Instagram and all that stuff.
She's like, people will be inspired and all this stuff.
And I was, you know, at the beginning, I'll be honest,
I was like, we'll see. And I wasn't even sure
I was going to share it, to be honest, just

(02:10:44):
because I was like, it's my business. And I know,
but I feel like there's a stigma attached to a
lot of this stuff, is like don't share it, or
if you share it, like do what you want validation
from other people or something. And I'm just decided to
not be in my head about that this my body
and the same way people was. If I posted a

(02:11:05):
picture years ago and somebody was just like, I like,
how you look in this pic? I was never like,
you know, like what, no, Like, I was fine, if
you like I'll look good. If not, that's that's your
business as well. But but yeah, I'm glad that so
many people have tapped in to be like, you know,
this made me work out. I work out now too,

(02:11:25):
or you know, man, I was inspired by you and
this is you know, this wild stand in gym whatever.
I found a really nice community of people. It has
not been the negative feelings that I thought would have happened,
the anxiety that I had around all this. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:11:39):
Sometimes I've realized too that the Internet will lie to
you about the reality of what's real, because similar to you,
when you look at the Internet, it's like, oh my gosh,
people gonna be feelm me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
You're like, no, you're going to gym. They like, are
you talking about the gym? Yeah, I meant just more
of the internet, like social media. People are just very positive.
But also yeah, the gym has been stremely positive as well.
Yeah it's been I'm really glad I'm doing this, and yeah,
it's been nothing but a positive experience for me. And
even I have a really good trainer, so it helps

(02:12:14):
that when I get down on myself or I'm hard
on myself. There's so many times where she just said
a word too that just made me be like, yeah,
I'm tripping. Like the goal is to be in the
gym because I have a weird type of personality where
I feel like I'm very Type A. But it's just
I hold it in a lot. So I'm very much
like I expect to be good at things. I expect

(02:12:36):
to be good immediately. When I'm not good, I get
upset with myself and things that I'm that take a
lot of work that I'm not good at a lot
of times I'm just like, fuck it, I don't even
want to be good at that, which is not true.
I do want to be good at it, but some
things just take more time than others. And this thing
has really inspired me to remember the roots of other

(02:12:57):
things that I got good at through lots of work.
So playing basketball, I got good because I stayed playing basketball.
I didn't get good because, yeah, I didn't get I
was fifteen and I had asthma. Until I was fifteen.
I was used to dribble with fucking two hands and
shoot with two hands like this, Like I got good
at basketball because I just kept wanting to be good
and I and it was a bit embarrassing at first,

(02:13:19):
and there were ups and downs, and there were judgment
and there was all the stuff. But I got to
a point where I could stay on the court with
a lot of people. Obviously not like some NBA people
or no shit, but just I got on. I got
to the point where it's like I go out there
with the fellas and hoop and it was. It was
second nature to me, and I loved doing it. And
that did not happen overnight. That's that was. I still

(02:13:39):
remember the drive through game I played with my brother.
We didn't have a basketball goal, and you had to
cross over the other person and go past him on
the in the driveway and the driveways like six feet
eight feet like you. But I learned to dribble that way.
I still remember the summer I spent dribbling up and
down the hill on this loop around my neighborhood, and

(02:14:01):
if you fucked up the dribble, you had to go
all the way back to the bottom and start your
dribble over and get up that heel half a mile
or whatever. I remember spending time doing that, riding the bike.
All this shit that I just did, you know, like
like working on my shot. It never looked orthodox it wasn't.
But I remember my freshman year of college, I used

(02:14:23):
to just go to the gym pretty much four or
five days a week besides just playing basketball, I go
to a different gym where no one's in there, and
the fucking gym was raggedy. It had nails and the
floor and shit, and I would just shoot over and
over for hours, just over over by myself until my
jumper got pretty fucking wet, because I realized that I

(02:14:45):
was not as good a shooter as the guys I
was playing with, and for the role they wanted me
to play, I needed to be able to shoot to
be stay on the court with them. And so I
figured that shit out, and the gym has got me
back to that where it's like, oh no, no, no, the
process is part of the progress, and so it's really

(02:15:05):
been helpful and honestly like it's done a lot for
my mentality too, because I think one of the reasons
I have not been so on edge about all this
shit with the world and politics and stuff is because
you get in the gym and it's just you and
whatever your exercise you're doing, and you tune out. You

(02:15:26):
listen to some music and you count and you do
your sets, you and you work on what you can control,
and you don't worry about what you can't control for
that amount of time. And that's something basketball gave me
and now I'm getting it out of the gym. And
also walking outside does so much wonders for your mental health.

(02:15:48):
And I just feel like it's a thing people don't do.
It's something a lot of us could do. It's not
like you got to go out there for twelve hours.
You ain't gotta walk seventeen miles. You don't have to
walk a certain pace. It doesn't have to be competitive.
You can just I basically at this point, go I'm
gonna walk for about an hour to wherever I'm walking

(02:16:10):
on the path. Sometimes I walk to like a park
or something. I'll sit on a bench for ten sometimes
twenty minutes. Like I'll sit on that bench for a minute,
look at the sky, breathe, look at ducks and turtles
and shit. And then I'll go walk back and it's
you know, I'll get a little bit of a sweat,
but it's never like I'm not out there trying to
kill myself. I'm just out there like getting some exercise.

(02:16:32):
But it does so much for my mental health. Man,
I feel so good about stuff rather than being cooped
up in the house and looking at my phone or whatever.
So uh, definitely gonna create another workout plan, get back
and workout training because I feel good and sleep better.
Have a three year old and eleven month olds, so
the sleep won't be one hundred percent better I feel
on that. Yeah. Also, like another thing too, this last

(02:16:54):
couple of weeks, I designed my own workout at one
time because I and I used I would have never
been able to do that a year ago. That's how
much I've learned from the train over that time. Is
we weren't able to meet because of a weather emergency
or something. But it was like I sent her a
list of like, yo, what if I do these exercises
and she's like no, notes, like that's it. Do this,

(02:17:16):
do that. You got all the right muscle grooves and
you'll even the only thing she suggests was like, you know,
if you feel more comfortable doing higher weight later on
in the week, do you know, so you're doing twenty
five pound curls, if you want to go up to thirty,
do thirty you know, something like that. It's just really
really rewarded. I highly suggested to people. And if you

(02:17:39):
can afford to get a trainer nutrition is something like that.
I suggest you do that as well, because I know
I needed help and I don't know everything, and it
helps to have people that no more than you, that
can that can help you as long as you have
an ego about it, you know, keep pushing them. Sorry
for any typos. Thank you both, and take care of that. No,
thank you, not thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:17:58):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:17:59):
And then the last thing is we got stuff in
the mail, uh Michael. We did not get a note,
but I assume these are from Michael off our Amazon
wish list because Michael emailed me about it. But we
got more of them. Candles, Yeah, got some candles. Wait

(02:18:19):
a minute, pine apple cake. Oh ship the d W candles.
I had these on the list. I don't know if
I had these on the list. I know you talked
about its pine apple cake. Pine You talk about this
motherfucker right here from d W. It's on the top
two of the candles ever, and it ain't number two,

(02:18:42):
this one right, this motherfucker right here. Listen, pineapple cake.
Don't miss. Okay, you could like not burn the pine
apple ca you could just open it up and sit
it in a room. I think it'll work, like uh,
that's very valuable. I'm gonna hold onto that one. I
burned old slow oh double pine apple cake, God damn.

Speaker 2 (02:19:02):
Oh not double not pineapple? They have double pine apple.

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
Got wanting to burn, wanted to look at That's what
I like, wonder mao at we got this from Preston,
who I didn't even realize how Apparently as an author,
Preston wrote a book. All yeah, It's called Toto the Bend,
Not the Dog, includes exclusive interviews with founder Steve Locke,

(02:19:29):
look at the David piche All of a sudden, that right,
and Steve Porcaro. I did not know Preston wrote books, and.

Speaker 4 (02:19:37):
In the noteas fighting not with it, he says, right like,
we have a lot of smart people listening to show
we do.

Speaker 2 (02:19:44):
I am shocked, y'all listen. I am shocked every time, like, yeah,
I got the PhD. I'm like, why, baby, why is
you here?

Speaker 1 (02:19:52):
Professor's authors? They're crazy, right. I forgot to give you
a copy of my first book at the live show.
My second Blood will be coming out shortly. I'm in
the process of writing the third one about a band
you have seen that has been on the blackout. Tips
chairs from pressing who could it be? I don't know
who who could it be? Could it be? Or wonder
if it's living color?

Speaker 2 (02:20:11):
Yeah, I hear writing books and ship.

Speaker 1 (02:20:14):
It would be funny if it wasn't living color. And
then it's just some other band. It's like, y'all really
forgot about that nigga. But I think it's living color.
And then this is not a gift from a fan. Oh,
give me a second, I gotta open it up. But
this is something I got for us.

Speaker 4 (02:20:30):
Okay, we all waiting in suspense because I don't have
no idea what it is, all.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
Right, So it's something I got for us to commemorate
a big moment. Oh, let me, there's more cutting involved
than our thought.

Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
Guy, I'm cutting good thing. You got the good sisters.

Speaker 4 (02:20:54):
Y'all know how to rap shit up there, like you
know what, We're gonna wrap shit up to make it
impossible to get to the ship.

Speaker 2 (02:21:01):
You won't.

Speaker 1 (02:21:02):
I appreciate them for saying this ship ain't gonna break
on the way over there. But uh, this we we
were recently, we were recently acknowledged in the paper our
local Queen City nerve Yes, and we got like a

(02:21:22):
whole spread done about us, and so I got to
commemorated in the play.

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
So like it could go that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:21:36):
So like we can it can go on the wall
somewhere in here. We'll find a place to putty.

Speaker 2 (02:21:41):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:21:43):
Yeah, like it'll we'll have a like this is a
big deal to us.

Speaker 2 (02:21:47):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:21:49):
So and of course you know they are Ryan and
I believe Christine. They were at the they were at
the live show. So that was cool.

Speaker 2 (02:22:00):
That is beautiful. Yeah, because it's the whole ass spread.
I am really excited about putting that up.

Speaker 1 (02:22:08):
Yeah, it's got their logo on it, it's got all
the words from the article there, it's got like Rod
and Karen Morrow Blackoutes Podcast, Queen City, Nerve, February nineteenth,
twenty twenty five. So like, yeah, I just thought, hey,
let's commemorate it, like, hey, spend some of this live
show money to maybe I'll put it on the wall
back here so that whenever we're live people will see

(02:22:30):
it on the wall or something.

Speaker 4 (02:22:33):
Yay, that's pretty So you haint you thinking to do that?

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
Oh man? Honestly, they emailed like that's great news. Emailed
it was like hey, we saw you were in this thing.
Would you like to commemorate it with a plaque or whatever?
And I was like, this seems like a hustle. But
but then I looked at too it was like, no,
it seems like they do this and I had never
thought of this before. So maybe this will be going
over where Mario and the Millennial Falcon are and something,

(02:23:04):
because I want people to see it every time. You know,
they're also the I think they're also the only people.
Well they're not the only people, but they're the main
one I think about whenever I think about award winning,
I'm like, they gave us award before anybody else get
they did, you know, fifteen years in the game, somebody
finally was like, you know what, the show ain't that bad?

Speaker 2 (02:23:24):
He ain't that bad? That bad? Be all right over there.

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
Somehow they've been able to stay on the air for
fifteen years. Nobody else has ever done that except Keith
and the Girl. You know, it's like four podcasts out
here like this. All right, y'all, thank you for listening
to everyone. We'll be back throughout the week. We appreciate chiall.
Thank you for the power words everyone to chat. It's
been fun, and we'll talk to you soon Until then,
I love you, I love you, wh

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