3067: The Era of the Bully

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Your point of view helps me see the other side
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Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
And it don't mean you've got to agree, and it
don't mean that you even have to understand, because what
I've realized a lot of times, for everybody, whenever you're
doing something, you're explaining something, you're normally giving it from
your kind of personal experiences and the things that you've
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life yet, depending on age, whatever, you know, some people
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because everybody has different types of personalities, and so you know,
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Speaker 3 (06:18):
Fuck they was talking about, But that's just life.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, Sometimes I like, I really do seek to understand
and be understood, and I think a lot of people
if we started with that, I think we'd be better
off than seeking to dominate, seeking to win, seeking to dismiss,
seeking to attack, seek, Yeah, all of those different things
that people seem to start with that inclination these days,

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And I don't think it's been very it's very fruitful
because most of us who have ever felt that impulse
coming from somewhere else, many of us reject being controlled
or dominated or attacked. So I don't know that it's
the most fruitful use of our communication skills, and in
this space normally we're able to at least, you know,

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gonna play a beat and then we're gonna get into
the Oh wait, no, actually we don't need to play
a beat. It's so early. We can just get straight
into the shows. We had three shows three six four
or the backup Quarterback of the country was our feedback show,
where we recapped our live show and then responded to
listener feedback. We got ten comments. Snap Apia, says TikTok,

(10:14):
in my opinion, the most addictive app. I had the
experience of two hours going by and me not noticing
at all. And I'm an adult, I should notice. Sorry
for posting a longer farmer article. The message was just
that farmer companies who almost got broke from opioid lawsuits
can flourish again with the terrorists. Okay, yeah, totally fine.

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Not like you know this is the thing, y'all leave feedback.
But I'm the editor. You know, I'm the host, and
so sometimes y'all lead stuff, and you know it's not
your concern to necessarily direct the show. But it's like,
can I take twenty minutes of a two hour already
two and a half hour feedback show and read this article.
Probably not so just make executive decision, but no apology

(10:58):
need it. And as far as TikTok, I know it's
an anecdotal thing, but I really do wonder if there's
any studies on what is the most addictive social media websites?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, I have no idea, but I can personally speak
to myself. I've used most of them, you know. Of
course it's something I haven't used, but I've you know,
used off the major ones. And for me, because uh,
TikTok has the endless rolls and TikTok has whenever you

(11:36):
hit something, it kind of suggests things kind of similar
to that. So for me, it's almost like a TimewARP,
and the other apps just mimic it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
So I had to.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Be aware when like the reels and shit like that
started coming up because it was similar to it, which
means it was also a time suck.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, but that's also anecdotal, right, Like that's her, You
and her that are both like your user experiences. I
feel the same way that it's anecdotally. I feel like
TikTok is the more addictive of the apps, it's the
best experience and the easiest to stay on. Brown University
did a study what makes TikTok so Addictive and Analysis

(12:16):
of the mechanisms underlying the world's latest social media craze,
And it's long I can't read at all, but like
they have seventeen citations at the end, like like, I
think our anecdotal stuff will line up with what with

(12:36):
what I believe these studies are going to eventually reveal.
I really do think that app, more than the others,
is more addictive, just because it's just such a naked algorithm.
It's just it just does not get into its own
way in the way that like I said, the inshitification
of these other apps has actually gotten in the way
of those apps. They want to make money at some point,

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but making money always takes a user out of your experience.
It's like, now you're asking me for something. Now you're
showing me an ad. Now you're showing me someone who
paid for their stuff to be promoted in my feed,
even though I don't follow them no, which is just
another thing that makes me go, maybe I should get
the fuck off of here. Teatok does have some of
that stuff. It just doesn't have it nearly as often.

(13:19):
And the other thing that it has is that it's
trying to sell you stuff and keep you in the app.
So it's like if Amazon was also social media. It's not,
so it's not really the same. It's like, we do
want you to stay in here. We don't want you
to have to leave, go to PayPal, come back.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
We want you to That's why when you purchase shit
through there, and it's a hole. And I noticed because
I've been down this rabbit hole, it's a whole genre of.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Things of.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
TikTok made me buy it, and it's all a bunch
of Amazon shit. And if you get down that rabbit hole,
you can go click a button, purchase it and loop back.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Back back around you right back.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, this is interesting. I'm sure we'll get more definitive
studies over the time, but I don't think it's I
don't think it's like a coincidence that we all are
having the anecdota experience, are like, yeah, this is the one.
Tanya W. Forty two says, I'm so glad Preston Frazerson
in his book, and I'm bummed I didn't meet him
at the live show. I grew up in the seventies
and eighties, so total is right up my alley.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I just bought his book in Kendle for Matt.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, we're selling.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Look.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I know Amazon's a little suspect these days, but a
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offer to receive digital credits that you can use for
any digital orders such as Kendle books, TV shows, movies,
et cetera. Okay, thank you, Tanya W fourty two says, oh,
and looking forward to the next book, especially if it's
about the band that we suspect. I met Corey Glover

(14:47):
at a dining event by an awesome chef, Russell Jackson,
because I was wearing a blackout Tips T shirt. Listen,
you wear in a blackout Tips T shirt around Corey.
That's a shortcut. Okay, he gonna know you cool people.
I'm just telling you right now. I've seen it happen
in person. I've seen him wear black out Tip shirts.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I love that dude him man vern and so like people. Yeah,
like I still every once in a while just have
a like, what the fuck like my life. It's a
pretty cool life. It might not be the biggest life
in the world, but it's a pretty fucking cool life.
Man Living Color as fans our podcast. When we say stuff,
sometimes they hear it and vice versa, like that's dope.

(15:25):
Whenever they tag us on social media, I see them
rocking shirts at the you know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Always like, damn, man, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Just two people giving our opinions in a in a show,
in a room with some mics, and uh, it's going
around the world, you know. So yeah, it's it's it's
it's amazing. And uh, I'm glad you got to meet
him because he good people. He is. Shoe Boody says
all this talk about TikTok and bondus, I just gotta
chime in. I bought a bondet off a TikTok shop.

(15:53):
Full circle, my dudes, full circle. Yep, that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Have you bound all types of shit? That's how Let
me get my ass out of here.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I always freak out whenever the algorithm is too good
and like, either my phone been listening to me or
the app's been doing something, or just I searched for
something and I just log in somewhere and I just see,
like damn, I was randomly talking about this guy. Like
one day I was on a podcast, either last week
on Keith and the Girl or something on that network,

(16:23):
and a comedian's name came up that I know his work,
but I don't know him. But because of what we do,
I'm friends with a lot of comedians on social media,
so it's not too far from my network for Facebook
to suggest a friend or something to me. But literally,
I had not talked about or thought about this dude

(16:45):
for years. I said his name, and then the first
thing I saw when I got into Facebook was suggesting
him be my friend. I was just like, the algorithm
is just agorithm Rona Raphael says the high from the
live show is everlast and has inspired me to go
going to the Animal Saving World. I'll serve on behalf
of the Orcas at the un They need to be heard.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Hash a tag won't Kane do it?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Hashtag won't Kane do it? Oh that's oh, that's not
for Toitous saying that on the seventeenth get that man
with the jail jinks. Swaby p says not to belabel
the TikTok topic, but say that three times fast. But
for those who don't seem to grass Rod's point on it,

(17:28):
I pose a simple exercise for you. Name your top
five black female TV news reporters or sports ankers, and
then of those five, named the ugly one. Good luck.
Damn it. I wrote this too soon. Rod literally brought
up the news reporter analogy a few minutes later. Oh well, listen,
swab I'm good. Okay, I'm not saying I'm the best

(17:48):
in the biz, but I mean you guys who pause
the show to leave your messages before I'm done making
my point. God bless you. God bless you, cause y'all
be having to leave two comments a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's all I'm saying. Your boy be thinking of it
a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I shout out to the overactive internal monologue, because in
these days like this, I really be like, I already
hit that point. What's funny is that sometimes I get
these comments, the alerts for the comments in real time
in my email, and so I'll get this alert and
I'll be like, I'm pretty sure I said that, and
then ten minutes later I get another alert, like, damn, Rod,

(18:26):
he did say it. I'm like, Okay, cool all, I
didn't go crazy because I don't really listen to the show.
I just be going off memory. I'm like, I'm pretty
sure I brought that up. Michael says, So glad the
candles made it to you intact. I saw them on eBay.
I knew I had to get them for y'all. Thanks
for all you do. Listen, thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Come on through eBay.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Already been burning. I burned through one of them already
in the bathroom. You can't find them. Shits, Noel, pineapple cake.
Come on now, come on now, We're not fucking around
with these candles over here. It's not a game when
it comes to the candles.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Okay, he is a candle burning bitch.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Eve said, as not to be a dead horse, but
I agree with you right about the topic. Being popular
while being unattractive and non white is an anomaly on
that app and not the standard. In fact, now that
Orange Foolis is back in office, it's gotten more racist
as well. Yeah. Like I said, I don't have a prop.
This is not a PSA against TikTok. My biggest bonus

(19:22):
contention is how much people are prone to defend that
one app compared.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
To all the other apps because we talk about them all.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, other than that, I don't I mean, like, do
what you do as long as you know the environment.
I'm not belitterally anyone. I'm on Twitter, I'm on Blue Sky, Instagram, Facebook,
like with like, I get it, but I'm just saying,
like you're walking. It's like if we said it's like

(19:50):
if we said, like, oh no, TikTok. I mean, Twitter
is not bad, even though Elon Musk is running it
and it's trolls and it's just and it's that because hey,
Rod has forty thousand followers. It's like, no, that's that
doesn't absolve anything like that happened. But also just Elon
Musk has millions of followers.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Things could beat you.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
At the same time, and the vast majority of the
people that are gonna be on there are are people,
now he's not vast majority, but a lot of the
weight to what gets promoted are people that Elon Musk
and conservative people want to be promoted. No, it's okay
to admit that while also still being on there. But
this is one of the issues with our society right now,

(20:34):
especially those who are hyper online. A lot of the
stuff we do is more about signaling how good we are,
and so especially this is something I felt for years
and years and years, and I've tried to express it
on here. But one of the reasons I don't do
a lot of consumer activism is what I would call

(20:55):
it right, a lot of whether it's a boycott or
a bycot, and it's not against anyone who's doing.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
You also don't talk bad about those who do.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But the reason I don't is that there is an
undercurrent that does say your money is your voice, and
that is not something I really agree with, meaning like
I don't agree that if someone buys an R. Kelly record,
they're okay with R. Kelly being a sexual predator. But

(21:26):
in our new social media death penalty for everything type
of type of environment, there are people who promote that.
Whether it's for content, whether it's so they can say
I'm better than other people, whether it's for conflict, whatever
reason they do it it. I find it to be
less productive than it is productive, Like it seems to

(21:50):
be more unproductive than it is productive. I get not
understanding it. I don't buy R Kelly's music, for example,
I don't listen to it, but at the same time,
i'm it means it doesn't mean much to me that
someone else did. And I wouldn't just jump to a
leap of like so then you think it's okay for
people to sexual assault kids. I wouldn't jump to that lead.

(22:12):
I wouldn't need them to give me more than that
and be like, this is why I defit, like I'm
defending our Kelly now. And the same way if you
go if you watch A A Man three, I don't go,
So you okay with Jonathan Major just beating people? I don't.
Those two things don't mean the same thing to me.
And I think our consumer culture, when we get has
it low key, kind of gives in completely to capitalism

(22:35):
and says I am my dollars and my dollars are me,
and I think all of us are more than our
dollars if we want to be, and all of us
and our dollars are less than some of us if
we want them to be. It's not that they have
no effect. It's not that some people don't buy into
that completely. I just don't, and I do recognize those
who do so, like when you're looking at Koch Brothers

(22:57):
or something that like, obviously they have decided that their
money is their speech and they're gonna use that to
spread as much bad in the world as they can.
But when it's just somebody trying to make the difference
between like do I need to drive extra twenty minutes
go to Walmart or do I go to the target
up the street, I'm not judging them, And I think
it was a bad mistake that people gave into that

(23:18):
and just so that we could all get off on
the judgment and being on the high horse of looking
at those who make different decisions and go, oh, so
that means you're and then take it to the extreme
instead of just like I don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Right.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
And the thing is, particularly with American dollars, it's gonna
be messy, like regardless, and that's just real Your dollars spent,
particularly here in America.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Is going to be messy. And that's just realistic.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Because everything we do, everything we touch, everything we infiltrate,
everything is connected.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like if you dig down to.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
The root of anything, the foundation of anything in this
country is gonna be rooted into something that is not good.
You can decide to do what you want to do
with your dollars and what you don't want to do
with your dollars.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
The choice is yours.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
But at the same time, because I said American money
is messy, you know, people spend their money in all
types of ways out of necessity.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
It doesn't mean they agree.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
It doesn't mean It doesn't mean that that me spending
my dollar here actually supports the things that you're doing.
Sometimes it does, most of the time it doesn't. And
so I do agree with what you're saying. Right there
needs to be more nuanced and people don't have nuance online.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
So it's if you're this, then you this. And I
think a lot of these things.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Arguments were applied to the Palestine argument. A lot of
these arguments people just got stupid and they just was like,
I don't want to hear logic.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I think this.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Therefore, if you don't me there for fuck you and
you're like, no dog. I think giving in all the
way to this ecosystem of like a there are no
degrees of good and bad, there are no degrees of nuance.
It is is extreme one way or extreme the other.
I think, you know, I think it does lead to

(25:06):
exactly what you're saying, Like I do think it's like
a that's how you end up with. Oh, this Democratic
politician who has said calling for a ceasefire is as
bad as this Republican who has said turn this place
into a sheet of glass. And there's no difference to
me discernibly. And I'd rather just not vote at all,
even though I know not voting means that the cheetah

(25:28):
glass people get to be in charge. I really do
think that is a huge problem. I don't have a
solve for it, and I don't know what we're gonna
how you get out.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Of this, but yeah, I agree, right, And also.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
For people that have more nuanced with things, it's like
a lot of those people have to fight more because
a lot of those extreme people are the loudest and
they want to drum everybody else out, and you have
to adam it and stand no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
We're not doing things. Well. You need to be realistic.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're allowed. You don't first of all, that you don't
have to be adamant. You don't actually have to say shit.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
You're choosing to say stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And so uh, if you put something out here knowing
the environment that it is. You know, you're gonna get
pushed back. Whether you're reasonable or right or not, it
just don't even matter at this point. That's why I
choose carefully what I say and put out into different formats.
I feel much more comfortable on this podcast than I
do talking about shit on Twitter. It just seemed like

(26:33):
a waste of time to me and energy. Yeah was
It just seemed like a waste of time. And you
can't really control it, and you whatever you say that
you need to be willing to like let go and be.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Like, yeah, you have all right, they decided that this.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Means something else. Fuck it, you know, like like you
have to be able to do that. But a lot
of people don't think of it that way because they're
not creatives and they don't live in this space and
they don't have to think about that all the time.
So I feel bad for the mental health both of
people who have never gone through that or don't experience
it and then it habits to them for the first time.
I feel bad for people that are like spiraling out
and they reach out to social media hoping that it

(27:10):
won't be that, but sometimes it is, you know. But yeah,
but at any rate. Back to this comment, let's see honestly, Yeah,
I saw a comment on someone threatening the Black Creator
with a new Center tree, and people said they reported
the comment, but TikTok found no violation.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, why that that's okay. Now, that's fine, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Now, like you, once you capitulate the Trump and conservatives
on TikTok, you have to let them do what they do.
You can't have the liberal bastion that you painted yourself
as for years. You can't be on his dick and
also be like, but we're going to control him. He

(27:53):
is the opposite of control, as is his followers as Yeah,
that lives of TikTok. Shit is real, like they herass
and docks people and shit like. I don't know. I
always worried that people defending that app are the most
prone to get fucked up over there, because it's different
when you know you're in a bad neighborhood. It's like

(28:14):
you drive through a bad neighborhood, you lock your doors,
you roll your windows up, you turn the music down.
You know, you keep your head on the swivel. But
the motherfucker, that's just like doors unlocked, windows down, riding
slow music blasting. It's like, Okay, well, I guess you
don't know what kind of neighborhood you win. Are good
luck getting through there? Maybe nothing happens, but maybe you

(28:34):
get carjacked. I don't know. Honestly, I won't be sad
if against band permanently. Remember when Vin was popular. Now
it's gone.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
If TikTok goes, something else will replace it.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, and whatever replaces it will eventually be bad too.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Just what happens, yep, because they promise you things that
they can't actually execute.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Let's check comments on YouTube. Looks like we got two comments.
Let's see enigua, sixty four said, and then go out.
Sixty four says had to pause podcast and respond to
the voicemail where the man was talking about his daughter
and her perspective on Karen. For me personally, it was
Karen Hunter that brought me to your show. But what
made me stay is Karen. I can't remember what the

(29:13):
topic was specifically, but it was about the election, and
Karen went off and I thought, this is exactly the
exactly the viewpoint I need to hear at this space,
in this space for me, I mean, this is exactly
the viewpoint I needed to hear this is the space
for me. I love Karen everything she brings to the show.
It absolutely would not be the same without her smiley face.
And I did not get to go to the live
show this year, but hopefully I can make the next one.

(29:35):
But I did look at the pictures on Instagram and
Karen did look absolutely beautiful. Oh that is she did agree.
And the poll for the episode was do you go
to the gym regularly?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Twenty five percent? Yes, seventy five percent.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
No, there you go. Obviously I'm in the twenty five percent.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Now, and I guess I'm in this seventy five percent.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I wasn't saying no names.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I tell on myself.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Okay, all right, well you know it is what it is. Well,
you know, let's just move on, all right. The next

(30:37):
episode is called thirty sixty five Bigger Bubbles. We got
sixteen comments on this one.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
All right, what was we talk?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Glad we only did three episodes this week. Y'all was
on it. Tanya says, oh boy, yeah, I help a
musician friend with fulfilling his merch orders. And when I
heard Rod say he was sending the posters international Ikrane
International poster postage is ridiculously expended. USPS is definitely the
best option in most cases, but it is you need
to get prepaid labels so you can just drop them

(31:06):
in the box Joe post office. If they don't have those,
just hand them over without the pain and negotiating the purchase.
My favorite service for this is Pirate Ship. It's free
and it does a great job of leading you through
the process. Just by a cheap scale to weighyos packages
and you're in business. Yeah I've done that before. I
used to do stuff on eBay. I still had to
scale in here.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
But to be honest at this point, part of the
reason I like going.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
To the post office. It's so stupid, and I know
I seem like a very liberal hippie type motherfucker for this,
but one I do like going in there and like
actually using the service my tax dollars pay for. I
do like the stories of the environment and seeing the
people in there. Some crazy albums always happens when I

(31:51):
go to the post office, and yeah, now you know,
I buy stamps and stuff and it's hokey. And I
like mailing y'all stuff out, and I like mailing the
Christmas cars and stuff like, it's a lot of work,
but at the end of the day, I don't know,
there's something old school and fun about it. It's like
we live in such a digital don't see people in person,

(32:12):
do everything through the AI type of world that when
I can, if it's not too much hassle, I don't
mind going to the mailbox and doing all the stuff.
But I do appreciate that advice, and uh, yeah, I
could do it that way. I could do it right
here from the house, but I just don't.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Strangely, USPS site itself doesn't give you all the options
such as first class mail or media mail. Media mail
is so cheap if you're sending items like books, vinyl
album see these DVDs, etcetera. That are heavy. Having said that,
I get your whole experience ended up being very cool,
but you may not want to go through that every time.
I do want to go through it every time. It
made my day to watch that lady, that lady get

(32:52):
cussed out. I was an adventure, I tell you that,
But and then to watch that video with them afterwards,
like I don't I got the time. Fuck it, I'll
make the time for some mess Newsy says, nothing makes
me happier than watching the interaction with a bad hustming
and being the next person in line who gets to
commiserate with their employee. It's the ultimately high, ain't it?
And I took it to the next level, Like even

(33:13):
if that white lady was not wrong, I was still like,
I'm on y'all side. Y'all got the power in the mail.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Y'all can throw my shit away and nobody get shitped Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I've gone back to that post office a couple times
now throughout the week, so I don't think they listened
to the podcast. So I feel safe saying it here, guys, Okay,
we're behind we I'm trusting everybody here that's listening to
the show, the thousands of you. The black ladies was wrong,

(33:43):
the white lady was right. But I sold that white
lady out. My sense of justice was like, m I
just need to get my shit mail. Maybe it's reparations.
I don't know. Okay, the white lady seemed correct to me.
She was bullshitting. Now, she shouldn't have been in there
trying to have a nice day at Foux forty five.

(34:03):
That part is on her.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
That's what she fucked up.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
But I feel like almost over the impulse wasn't wrong
to want everyone to have a nice day. She just
didn't understand the time. It was not that time. Okay,
these were not those people. But like on a in
a quarter law, the white lady probably would have won
a case.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's all I'm saying. But uh yeah, at any right now.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
She was wrong to me because I needed day services
and I wasn't fitting to be like, ma'am, there's not
how we talked to our elders. I was like, I
don't see nothing. I also hate when a person in
line tries to loudly complain about the service to me.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Oh I hate that. Oh I hate that. Leave me
out of it.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
That's your fault that you and I just want to
get through the line. Ma'am. I don't want them having
an attitude because I was over here key keying with
your ass, and I don't even agree with you. I
turned to hell and Keller real fast about to get
me caught up because you're in patient. Great story of
love here and stuff like that. Thank you. A lot
of people love that. Appia says, we live in deer country.
That they home doesn't get smaller here, but they like

(35:11):
crossing the street anyway. Sometimes we have we here. We
have bridges on autobahns, especially especially for deer. Once a
deer ran into my car, but luckily it created only
some damage on the outside of my car, and like
a smooth criminal, just disappeared in the forest after the
crime snakes Here, I prefer the deer. Well, you know,
first of all, the deer sound like they should have

(35:33):
filled out some insurance paperwork. It was it nice supposed
to not being your country or something. Why did it
leave so fat? Wonder? Raphael says in response to this,
Almost everywhere I've been in Dochlanda's deer country, I wonder
if the meat is on the menu. I've had deer
adobo back during my Virginia days. I'll look for some

(35:53):
to try on my next trip. And she said one
there's even deer worst, which I believe is like deer sausage.
Rby also says, I'm a white woman and I can
get classically aggressive, like yelling and being frightening like my mother.
We are no sweet little flowers. We are strong. I
try not to go there very often, but I absolutely
can I'm pretty good on it, not to brag. I

(36:13):
do yoga and meditation to oppose it and it works.
But I'm pretty sure I'm not like the black woman
hater say yeah, I don't think I like the dudes
that hate black women and try to pull out the
white woman or non black women pokemon card.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
It's just insulting every single type of woman.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It insults everybody.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, and it just implies that it's people don't mind.
From my understanding, there's this type of person that doesn't
mind being dehumanized if they find a dehumanization flattering. So
if there's a type of white woman that doesn't mind
you dehumanizing her, if you're saying, hey, you're better than

(36:55):
black women, it's like, well, I'll take that compliment. And
that's a bad person that takes that compliment. And the
same way that I don't feel comfortable with the whole
idea of like the black man is the big penis sex. God.
I know people are like, wow, what a positive reputation.
I want people to want me, but it also feel
very fucking dehumanized. In addition to just not being true

(37:17):
of every black man, it's also just very dehumanizing and
reduces us to just fucking like sexual breeding partners and shit.
And I don't you know, like I said, it's I
understand it, and I understand like fetish and stuff. I
know that that we're talking about a different category. People
are often into shit that they just like they're attracted
to what they're apposted. But I'm just speaking in general.

(37:39):
You'll see this language on like dating websites, and there's
a type of black dude that gets excited by it
because it is a physical sexual thing or whatever. But
I often find it a little bit like dehumanizing. And
I'm not surprised when you find out that the people
that you know placate those sensibilities often have no actual
respect for the humanity of the black person that they

(37:59):
are objectifying, right, you know, I know it's a thin line,
and you know, we all have our different preferences and
objectifications and people that we're attracted to and stuff. So
I get all that, but especially once you bring it
to a romance area, like we're not even just talking
about being attracted.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
To somebody, it seems dehumanize it.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
And so when you say black women angry, all other
women good and not angry, it's just untrue and fucking insulting.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
It is, And like you said, it's insulting to all
the people you're talking about, and you know, and when
you try to explain that, people they just don't want
to hear that because they think they're right.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, I don't get it, but yeah, I don't think
any no good person I think would take that. I
don't want to hear that shit, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't want to hear that shit. I don't.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
That is a thing that I will normally disrupt a
conversation about it as if someone's like doing that in
front of me, and it's in a selfish way. Is
because it's not necessarily that I'm like, I'm such a
good person. Don't you talk about my sisters like that? Brother?
In a selfish way. It's literally like I don't want

(39:14):
you thinking I'm the kind of person you can talk
like that around, because I don't want to hear this shit, right,
And so I just had to nip it in the
butt because I've had that happen to me at like
a YMCA or playing basketball or something, and somebody will
start that conversation on sideline and I'll check them, and
you know I would, I'd love to pat myself on

(39:34):
the back and be like because I'm just such a
great guy. But part of it is not about there
could be no black women around. It's not about like
standing up for this. It's literally like, bro, I don't
want to have to hear this bullshit every day. So
just I'm not the one. I'm not the one you
go and fucking do that shit over there, you know

(39:55):
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
That's such bullshit.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
To me and I don't want you thinking like escal
that type of behavior around me. In addition to most
of the time it's hacking not funny anyway, So it's
just sound like a fucking death gym comedian set. We're
still doing.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
That, right, and it's bad.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
And it's also I know with you being at the
line things like that, didn't I remember you were saying,
like one time because I would really come to the buy,
but I think one time you asked me to bring
you something, they was shocked that your wife was black.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, that's because at this wise like one of the
most expensive quote unquote wives in the country, and not
expensive in like how much it cost to join, but
I think they's put there's a rich community. They put
a lot of money into it, so it's a lot
there's black guys that go there all the time. They
play basketball and all this stuff. But there's a certain
type of black dude that be there. Not everyone, obviously,
not even the majority, but there's enough of them that

(40:48):
are into that like white culture space shit.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And white women better and black women bad and.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
All that type of bullshit. Yeah, And I don't know
what would make them assume my wife wasn't black, And
it wasn't a lot of guys. It was just like
one or two guys. But I have no reson it
was shocking to me, not because it was shocking to
me they assumed anything right, right, Yeah, it's not like

(41:18):
a conversations where about black women or race or I've
never said anything negative black black women around them. I've
never agreed with them saying anything negative around So I
don't know why they assumed that other than just in
their minds.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
There was like I assumed you could get.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
A white woman because you have this job and whatever
you come to this why almost like you said so,
then why wouldn't you have had a white woman or whatever?
I'm like, I don't know what y'all talking about.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I was.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I was more surprised just because the amount of race
shit I talk. It's very few brothers that got white
wives that talk the way I talk about race. And
it's not that there's none of them, but like you know,
it's very I just have not found that to be
an experience that happens.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Often where I'm like, oh, okay, anyway.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Good luck. Ramsey Genius has five stars for the ice
Cream Post Office Chronicles. Mary says Karen's DNV story took
me out between almost losing her life walking towards that
crazy man, and this ride is Karen's full time handler.
Keep the talent safe. Roud runner rold Feel says three
quick things. Frost Nixon was so good. I'm considering giving

(42:27):
the order to one of my lieutenants to produce a
baby so I could craft and bestow that him with
that nickname. Thank you. Two. I love listening to you guys,
Legends commercial. It's my favorite ad to listen to, especially
when you guys say Bakara, I only gamble in magic poor,
so forget the spelling if wrong. Awesome tastic. Three Everyone

(42:49):
listening and in the chat start their applause right now
that Star Wars was right about politics, My goodness, better
than awesome tastic. I got to find an intergalactic word.
The best podcast in the world. Thanks Man, thank you. Yeah,
Frost Nixon was I just was giggling thinking about that.
I tweeted that this weekend, and you know, my tweets

(43:10):
don't always get traction, but I was like, that, shit's
funny to me. And then the Star Wars thing was
just fun because as we kept talking about it, especially
as Karen was contributing it, the analogy just kept getting
more and more accurate than me.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I was like, oh, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
George Lucas is really a fucking genius, and we all
should apologize. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
I should.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
I'm sorry George. If you listening to this, bro, I
I apologize. I've never really ragged you in the first place,
but I like, I know, I've made little quips about
especially Clone Wars, the the Live Act and been like, oh,
the politics. Who wants to see that?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Wrong? It's very much needed apropos. Somebody's saying they racist,
they racist out.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Here, Sinnia says man Rod. Your analysis on the Democratic
Party was on point, at least my opinion. With talking
to the people in the DIM Party in my state,
we've all kind of came to the same conclusion that
the problem with Kamala's campaign well that she only had
one hundred days, and also that because the party had
been so deeply fractured with oustend to Joe Biden, there
was no unifying mandate, which led to her talking to

(44:16):
anybody and everybody, even those who were inconsequential. Yeah, I yeah, yeah,
I still remember when they talked to the black men
that were like wanted Crypto and they came up with
the black man agenda. I appreciate that they did the work.
I understand that means they took black men seriously blah

(44:38):
blah blah, but also fuck them niggas, right, right, If
we are this deep in the weeds and it's this late,
I don't know what's wrong with them brothers that they
needed to hear about Crypto, right, whatever their concerns were
as a black man, those were not my concerns.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
And I thought that was very fucking weird. You know,
guys that were.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Pitching comedians and shit pitching like she needed to do
something where we don't need to pay child support, hey man,
not the fucking time. And it sucks because they had
to scramble and do as much as they could, and
social media was on their ass every step of the way,
and people were really trying to drum up negative campaigns
the whole time. You know, It's why I conflicted about

(45:24):
the Obama talking to black men thing, because my problem
wasn't that Obama had anything negative to say about some
black men. It was that the black man he was
talking to literally in that room. Are not those guys, agreed,
So they don't need to be fussed at at all.
But are there some brothers I would like to see check? Yes, absolutely,
but there's some of every group, and there's less of

(45:45):
those brothers than any other male group that need to
be checked. Right, So I like I, like I said
to say, I had conflicted feelings where I was like
I roll my eyes, but also like do we even
have time for this? Are the black men ain't gonna
be the problem? I don't think that's gonna be the
problem if she doesn't make.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
It and they were not the problem.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
It's just a subsection of a subsection, not trying to
find it. A subsection of eight shit niggas, and we
not worried about y'all and making it. Too many people
have made too much content off of black men versus
black women, right, And so I saw people continually moving
the bar to well, I don't care if eighty something

(46:27):
percent of black men voted for Kamala, that's still not
good enough. They still a problem, So they can still
shit on black men. And at that point I have
to say, then, are you also spending that same energy
on the eight percent of black women that voted for Trump? No,
because that would be ridiculous and not productive at all
to put that much energy and time into a group

(46:48):
of people that.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Honestly, at this point, I don't even see.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
What could sway that group of people if they voted
for Trump again in twenty twenty four. So, like, whatever
those eight percent, six, whatever that number is a black women,
they're gone. And similarly, whatever the number is a black
man that decided in this last election to go for
Trump over Kamala, they're gone. To me, there's no they're
not coming back, there's no argument to make, there's no

(47:12):
crypto policy to pass. Fuck them dudes. So I can't
really get with wasting time on that, But yeah, I
totally agree with you in that not very much time
was left and with one hundred days it's a lot
of work.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Yeah, and I do agree with you where it started
off fractured like people and I'm just keeping it real.
People under estimated how bad the fallout of Joe Biden
stepping down would be. A lot of people really thought
Joe Biden stepping down it was gonna be this smooth
ass transition and everybody was just gonna rye right rad

(47:48):
and get along.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
And for the most part, some people did. Most people did.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
But there is a subsection like me who feel a
certain way, and I will always feel a fucking way
about it.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
So it's still a quote unquote.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
You're there, you know, but I'm still gonna vote all
that shit, But I still feel a certain way.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I just don't know what the fuck was supposed to
be done, that's all. That's all.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Every like it's a bad situation.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Everybody is. Everybody is like, uh upset about like what
seating Uh the seat numbers on the Titanic, And it's
just like, I don't even understand what's the quibble about.
At this point, it's fucked going down it's fucked up,

(48:33):
like we just had an emergency situation. And even the
people that say stuff like well they knew he was
fucked up. If they knew he was fucked up, we
didn't know he was fucked up, you know, not not enough.
And part of the reason we didn't know he was
fucked up. And that's why no one will take responsibility
or ownership of it is because y'all were saying it

(48:54):
before he was fucked up, when he was fucking up,
like just gaffs and all this type of stuff, y'all
were letting it. Y'all were y'all were acting like he
had he was fucked up the whole time. Well, he
was competent, and so he has this bad debate and
then it's like we've been telling you the whole time.
It's like, no, this is different. It is scary to me.

(49:17):
This does feel different to me. I did watch that debate.
I will not deny what I saw. And if you
got to come up with an emergency plan, then you
have to come up with an emergency plan. But like,
there's so many assumptions that are being made that just
I don't see the proof of these assumptions, Like oh
he was always fucked up this whole time? Was he though?
Or just that just a thing we're saying now to

(49:38):
make Democrats look the worst we can possibly make them look.
You know, if we had a primary, but did we
really need a fuck we didn't have time to do
a primary, but but did we need a primary?

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Let's be honest, right, and every name y'all threw up
immediately stepped down, so was there.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
But even if they didn't step down, what would have
been the point?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Right, what would have been Let's let's say you have
a primary, more than likely com Harrison wins anyway, So
now what what what would we ultimately need to be
able to do get in line and vote for her?
And as far as everything else, I mean, optically, the
rallies were attended numbers wise, we have the data of
new registrations, We had the data of most volunteer, we

(50:17):
have the data of most donated money from single donators,
not fucking big corporate interests, of all fucking time. If
that's a losing campaign, then I don't know what a
winning campaign even is at this point. Are so just
leave me the fuck out of it. It's not my
it's not my responsibility. Also, I don't know what Gavin
Newsom is on with these politicians based too much of

(50:37):
their strategy on media consumption data. The data is is
biased and unreliable when you consider who owns the top
media platforms or outlets. If he is actually trying to
position himself for a presidential run, this talking to white
supremacist strategy is going to keep more progressives at home
on election day, which is how we lose. Right, I
don't understand what he's saying. I don't know what he's doing,
and I talked, but you know what, that's a lot.

(51:00):
That's a lot. I know what he's doing, and I
do understand why he's doing it, because I said, that's
what will happen. So actually, yeah, he's doing what I
said was going to happen. Everyone said, if they lose
this election, it'll be a referendum on Democrats and they're
gonna have to get more radical and more progressive. And
I said, that is not what will happen, because that
has never happened in American history. What will happen is

(51:22):
that they will go How do we get to the
centrist slash conservative voters who might be willing to vote Democrats, right,
And that's what Bill Clinton did, and that's and and
that's what the fuck is going to happen. That's what
like Biden had to do it even with him having
a progressive presidency.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
He when he campaigned, he had the campaign to.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
The center of the country. That's what Gavin Newsom is
gearing himself up to be. And it's sad because if
that works, it doesn't make us have more progress progress,
it makes us any less agree on the progressive side.
We have the numbers of people just show up. So
what makes people get up and go vote based on
buying Obama's campaigns? I'd say inspiration or anxiety? Yeah, yeah,

(52:07):
I'll get to that and say it. Dems are primeing
to win twenty six and twenty twenty eight, assuming we
can actually have elections, if they can define and simplify
their agenda and the voters actually show up to the polls.
I guess we'll see. Yeah, I'll so this is what
I'll say about that. I think we do a lot
of retroactive assigning of credit to campaigns. And my personal,

(52:31):
maybe very cynical belief at this moment is that it's
not about the messages of the campaign. I think we
do a lot of disservice to ourselves when we put
that much credit in the campaigns or the politicians hands.
I truly think it's the economy.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Yes, I agree.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
I agree, because because if you sit back and think
about it, how did we get Obama?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Y'all? Like people, they were alive and around at.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
That time, how did we get Obama? Everything was fucked up, y'all?
And they was like, damn, well, I guess we'll give
it to a nigga. How did we get Biden? All
of us about to die. We was like, damn, I
guess we get somebody out here that actually give a
fuck it will get vaccines. America does not move unless

(53:20):
it's forced to move.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, I think if the coronavirus pandemic didn't happen under Trump,
he gets two terms. That's what I'm resigned to believe. Now.
I don't think obviously, with him being reelected, his bigotry
wasn't the deal breaker for people. It was just my
job is fucked up, my life is fucked up. All
the businesses are closing, and it's not all of us. Obviously.

(53:42):
That's probably like a fifty to fifty divide on the
people that are committed to just one party or the other,
or probably sixty forty divider for being honest. But it's
it's that swing between presidents. That's just like, I don't know,
a lot of industry is looking fucked up. I guess
we should try a different politician. And I don't believe

(54:02):
that it's any economic message. I don't believe it's any
social message for those type of voters. I think a
lot of them is like once democrats get in office
and they run the country better, and wages and unemployment
and all this stuff is doing is doing well or
doing better, Let's not say well, let's say better, but

(54:22):
it's doing better than before, or feel stable. They go, well,
we can shake this up and I can either stay
home or I can swing back to my conservative social ideas,
which is now that I have a job and I
feel secure in this job. I don't want black people
to have a job. I don't want brown people to
have a job. I don't want women to have a job.
I don't want LGBTQ people to have a job. I

(54:45):
don't want gay people to have rights. I don't want
you know, it's like whatever that shit is it kicked
back up because they think on Maslow's hierarchy of needs,
they think that bottom of the pyramid is like satiated.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
So it's like, what are my top my top ones?

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Ooh, my top one.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It's actually to fuck other people over.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Shoe booty, says Rod. Description of the Debbie Downer dims
is so right. We are that meme of the god
shooting himself and then looking at the camera like, why
did the GOP do this to us? Oh? That's Eric
Andre shooting Hannibal Burds.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Yes, ah, I love that damn show.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
It's like when people give dating advice to say, you
can't love someone else if you don't love yourself. Democratic
party needs more self esteem, less navel gazing, and we
are going to be the cultor personality. Yeah, you need
those voters man, Like I'm not even saying like I'm
I try not to use them interchangeably. And I try
to make this distinction every single time I bring it up.
And I know it's a bit confusing, but when I

(55:39):
say Democrats, I am mostly talking about the people, yes,
the not the politician, not the system, not the just
the actual human beings that say they're liberal. And progressive
and they want good things. They gotta get their shit together.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Yes they do. You need to be more than words.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
The politicians reflect us, not the other way around. So
things that happen in this country out the responsibility of
the people that say they're good but didn't sit home
so they can feel like they're even better than participating
in the system. Erica says, the DMV in the post
office are hell. I'll never forget my six hour adventure
to obtain my NC license. I'm dreaded. I'm dreading going

(56:19):
to a ship these cookies to my sister. Every time
I go. There's a line. Evie says. That post office
story had me cracking up, and Nope, I would not
have intervened in mine, in my black business. I do
kind of have to commend that old white lady for
not dropping the N bomb in today's political climate. Well,
I'm be honest, she ain't. She ain't want that smoke
because it's not like them black women behind the count

(56:42):
was the only black women.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
It wasn't the only black people girls in there.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah, I would have definitely like kicked her cane from
under her if she would have said that shit, Like
come on, now she knew she was playing an away game.
She gets no credit for not saying the N word.
She said it when she got in the car, for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I bet you say it over there. I bet she
wanted to.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
You know what. Welcome to the cookout, Apple says. I
love that you see the bright side. I agree. Bitch
is on a nice, non racially offensive. Apply says my privilege.
Our post office is in bodega style shop in my
city is very fast and the people are nice. We
have this model in Germany where it doesn't have to
be an official post office. The shop can provide a

(57:23):
corner and the employees for the post office business is fine.
They get a course what to do all the equipment.
The corner is recognizable by the yellow door. The post
office is perfect. I don't ever have to do my
DMV because it's a company Volkswag and I drive and
the company does my DMV stuff for me. That's nice.
Now that I got this out, it's time to be
grateful or if you know me, feel guilty for how

(57:44):
good I have it in this context. Yeah, it's interesting
because I like here. We have to take a test sometimes,
and so if your company is doing it for y'all.
Do y'all not take a driver's licensed test like you
don't have to drive a car? Or is it just
after you take it one time, you're good for the
rest of your life. That's that's interesting. Note. Let's check

(58:06):
the YouTube for this episode, Bigger Bubbles three oh six
five many people enjoy twenty one comments. God damn we
talking about people did like this episode a lot. Atlisha
says at twenty twenty, Karen is a mess too. It's
the aries we think so outside the box that the
regulars just don't understand. JJ smile says birthright papers, Karen,

(58:30):
you got me, Dyn laughing. Nathalie says this episode was
so good as usual. The part where you call John
Stewart a weak ass bitch was especially good and it
was straight bars after that made my day. Thank you?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah yeah, I mean I agree with myself.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I had time to think about it. I don't regret
anything I said. I think that I don't get anyway.
I don't get him smart. Dave sixty seve as, in
regard to a social media chart, being progressivest to be
anti corporate and pro worker. So these social media platforms
which our businesses are less inclined to support progressive channels. Yeah,
almost all these businesses are like that. There are some

(59:13):
where you have leaders and CEOs that have decided to
their corporation is going to try to be ethical. But
for the vast majority of these, especially startup social media
Silicon Valley ass companies, they have no real value other
than to use the users who are on them.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Because they're the product.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
As the product, so we can't think that they're going
to create an equitable ecosystem. And yeah, a lot of
their stuff is going to give into craving capitalism, which
in America is going to be conservatism. Like whether you
think capitalism can have ethics or not, that's not really
for me to decide for you. But I do know

(59:52):
that the people who are most cravingly hyper capitalists are conservatives.
Are in America. You can't spell Jedi without DEI the
ice cream cone Yodel licks says AC that's fat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
At one sixteen fourteen. You are so right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
You pointed out how frustrating it can be with these
political parties. So many Democrats had this purity standard where
if the politician is and as liberal as they want
them they refuse to support them, while the Trump supporters
will back him no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I just want to let me know when y'all tired
of losing, man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Right, let me know when you are.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I'm here losing. I'm here until the end.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
It's gonna be this, It's gonna be washed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
RNTs repeat the mitas touch might be the only blue
bubble in that graphic that is not guilty of them bashing,
says Joseph. I don't know that worked, and I'm not dennigrating.
I just don't don't know that work like that. Ouchih says,
can I ask their origin of the volding chair and
bullet ball Shout out to ramsey pH Dunn, who said,

(01:00:56):
here's a list of the episodes that cover the history
of bullet ball in the Folding Chair one seventy three,
Bulletball Extreme two two seven to one, Bulletball twenty twenty one,
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Ball Reducts and Folding Chair episode twenty seven forty nine.
A Montgomery Sweet Tea Party from April seven, twenty twenty
three connects a bullet ball or folded chair replace the

(01:01:17):
taser girl. Thank you somebody did that's a fan? Well,
I know We've done several episodes of it. Ramsey Pa
Ramsey also says iront with Caaren and the ice cream
this past weekend. We went Saturday after seven thirty at
Broms and everyone was out getting ice cream. Yeah, it
was crazy. It was nuts. Michael says, this is a

(01:01:38):
brilliant episode. They want a bigger bubble, will follow me
the glory killing the analysis. Thank you, thank you. Look
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Cool shirt, says unknown user.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I thought about your shirt trying to see what shirt
I even had on. Oh the shirt that's my man
with the clouds and they used to be on PBS
painting Wild Ross. Yeah, Bob Ross, hello again, I'm your
gender critical listener, says letting Lucky Eagles sixty forty. Democrats

(01:02:14):
have to move to the middle and make small changes
towards the left is the game more power. That's the
only way we progress. If you push too fast and
too hard, there are people who will rebel. And that's
what we're living in now with Trump. Trump is the
devil and his supporters our demons, and they are trying
to take this make this country hell. I love the
games we made in this country, social Security, Obamacare, ability
for black people to enter the middle class through government jobs,

(01:02:35):
voting rightsdi and it kills me to see us lose
everything black people fought for for these centuries. We Black
Americans made this country really great and bled in us
soft for generation to make it better. I don't want
to get it up so easily. Two things I hope
Democrats start doing immediately. One, Democrats have to stop bringing
up trans people in every interview. This really hurts us.
I hope them stop mentioning the trans issues altogether. I'm

(01:02:57):
not saying trans people should not exist. I like what
Tim Wallace had to say about it when he said
everyone should mind their own business about other people's business.
I agree with this. This is a very small minority.
Let them do what they do, but we don't have
to talk about it every single time. We're trying to
save our democracy. Maybe that means they go back into
the shadows, but they go into the shadows in the
country that is still democracy or where people are not

(01:03:18):
being disappeared for protesting. Honestly, a lot of moderists just
don't want to hear about it or think about it anymore.
If the dem stopped talking about it so much, they
would be less focused on the community. Well number one,
well let me finishing your point. You always compare our
struggle to the trans struggle. I completely reject that, but
I'm not gonna fight about that. Moderists. I'm talking about

(01:03:40):
our black other black moderists there are. Those are the
people we have to have we have into getting back
to drop this trans stuff. They are not going to
be going to be anti black issues.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
This last sentence made no sense. But let me explain something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
To you real quick, Lucky Eagle. The first part of
this is Democrats did not bring up trans issues often
at all at all. Like, what's very ironic is that
you have been, like many other people, you have been

(01:04:18):
completely triggered by your biases against trans people by Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
And the ads that he put out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Yeah, so many actual trans people, actual LGBTQ advocates will
tell you Kamala Harris would not talk about those things
during their campaign for the most part. You look at
almost every campaign stop, it was not an issue she
brought up or broached on her own. If if she
did talk about it, as know, only because she was
asked about it. So you've already conceded a false You've

(01:04:54):
already basically put a falsehood out here, and you've and
you've conceded that ground, right You're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
that and it's because you're a bias against trans people,
you're transphobic. So now you want to turn this into
a referendum on trans people because Trump put out an
ad that every five minutes said something about Kamala was

(01:05:15):
giving trans people sex change surgeries and hundreds of thousands
of dollars in prison, which wasn't true. So I don't
fight on lies. You can do that, but I'm not
going to fight you on some lies over here. We
have to share the same reality or we can't have
this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
The other part is I compare.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
All struggles, all struggles that are about privilege, all struggles
that are about unfairness, all struggles that are about not
letting someone have freedom, to the black struggle. A comparison
is not saying something is equal. It is simply saying
that the way that these things are relatable, I can

(01:05:58):
analyze both. If you are incapable of such ability to
follow that logic, I then we.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Just can't relate.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
But I don't. I don't really bigger or go back
and forth with people about it. You are the one
who lacks the imagination, not me. You're the one who
cannot follow me, not the other way around. I can
follow your simple k man bigotry logic. That's easy. Any
anybody can see that that you know. I don't have
to agree with it to follow it. It's simple. But

(01:06:30):
for me, I don't think it's very complicated. And this
is the way my brain works. And then the third
thing I'll say about this point is black people were
not the reason Democrats lost this election. So for you
to say, like, well, we need to get these black
transfods back in the fold, why why they not? They

(01:06:55):
didn't lose the election for for Democrats. Black people's turnout
wasn't lower or some shit. Black people didn't vote for
her in less of a If anything, black men voted
higher for her than they did under Biden. So I
reject the entire lie that you wrote up here with
And whether you just didn't know you were lying, or
whether you thought you were gonna trick us with lies,

(01:07:16):
but these are lies. These are If we can't share facts,
then we can't really share a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
So I reject all of that shit. Now, will this
be what happens?

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Possibly? I still predict a lot of Democrats are going
to fight over the soul of that party, and it's
gonna become how do we become basically conservatives. But let
me tell you something, Doc, I don't know why they
would stop at trans people if what you're saying is right,
because you know who else needs to take their ass

(01:07:49):
back into shadows and stop fucking up progress for everybody else.
People that say stuff like defund the police, people that
say stuff like black lives matter right, people that use
words like white supremacisy and systemic oppression and out, they
should take they very inconvenient ass issues that don't affect

(01:08:11):
the vast majority of the people in this country as
far as they're concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Right any negative way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
They should take their ass somewhere and shut up and
dribble and just let us cater to the white people
that we think will actually go vote. We don't want
to hear about your issues either. You should be happy
that you live in a country where they're not abducting
people or kicking people out for disagreeing. That should be
enough for you. And fuck your rights. That's really what

(01:08:41):
you're saying. And so that's why you have to reject
my comparison, because you want to have the privilege of
what we would call black activism in America without seeding
that ground to anyone else. Everyone else's issues, after eyes,
needs to stop mattering. But the issues that you specifically
want to have that you do want the Democratic Party

(01:09:02):
and the country to uphold. For the thirteen percent of
us that live in that make up the American populace.
The thirteen percent meaning the minority of black people of
population in America are black. You want that thirteen percent
to be front and center on that docket. Though you
want our rights to be up there being pushed for.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
You want people to be allied with us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
And that is the real issue on the Democratic Party side,
is that y'all selfish motherfuckers don't want to be allied
with nobody. Everybody want just their ala car ass freedoms.
And then if everybody else supposed to just bend over
and fucking take it, and I say fuck that, so
I honest to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
God, as.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
If this is how we're the Democrats and Democratic voters lose,
then we deserve it. Then we need to suffer. We
must suffer together, and maybe the suffering will be enough
for your small ass mind to wake up and be like,
oh damn, maybe I need to stop tripping on trans
people because I have bigger problems, got bigger problems, because

(01:10:04):
that's not a trans problem.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Being deported is not a trans problem.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Trans people could just as easily write the same fucking
message about you when some bad shit happened to black people. Hey,
cops killing a black man for selling lucy cigarettes not
a trans problem. Fuck them Blacks. What democrats need to
do is get on this gender affirmation surgery. That's what
the fuck they could be saying. But that's not what
the big tent is. We all got our little fucking

(01:10:31):
ving diagram, and everybody a little circle overlap, just a
little bit. And what I'm writing, what I'm saying here
is concentrate on that overlap, because that is what can
bring us together. You know. Uh, it's that Fannie Lou Hammer.
Your freedom is shackled and chain the mind. That's that's
what it is. And so I find your selfishness to

(01:10:54):
be defeatist and short sighted and limited, because your selfishness
is literally stopping that next person from getting their freedom
and then keeping you from getting your own. I find
it stupid. Two, we also have to take a different
line on immigration. The majority of Americans are not pro
open borders and feel invaded. Democrats have to change the

(01:11:16):
rhetoric about this, not to be as extreme as Trump,
but the moves in the middle of this, Democrats are
are already doing that. Listen like, you sound like a
person that listens to a lot of Republican or you
listen to a lot of the big bubbles. That's what
you sound like. Because the big bubbles Republicans will line
and tell you Democrats that want open borders and know

(01:11:37):
that's not true. That's not how Biden governed. That's definitely
not how Obama governed. So that those things are not true.
They had an immigration bill that Trump shot down. Yes,
so you have accepted the Trump lies as your new truth,
and then you right up here with this bullshit to
us people that don't share these same set off facts
with you because they're not true, and they have and

(01:12:00):
Democrats do talk about immigration just because they're like, hey,
we should have a program for dreamers or naturalized immigration
or whatever, does not mean that they're just like open
border guys. Come on in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
No one is asking Democrats to change their platform on
black people.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Of course not. You don't want that. Of course you don't.
Why would you want that? You're selfish. You want them
to change it on everything else. A large majority of
people are asking to change their platform on these other
two things. You said I was selfish for worrying about
black people first, Well I am, that's just what I'll
be good. Then I'm gonna stop reading this cause fuck
your selfish ass. How about that. Now I'm gonna be
selfish to move on my podcast and don't write up

(01:12:36):
here again. Damn h How I use it from Channel
niggas Pdr says, I like how Karen mentioned the value
of passport. I got my first passport when a friend
invited me to Mexico. Eight months later, I lost my
passport while.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Bar hopping their home. When I got another passport.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
I was close to my adult kid's birthday, so I
got a passport for her too, in case in case
a friend of hers randomly advice her to travel out
the country. Now, I think a passport is a great
gift for a child. Niece nephew graduated from high school
of college. They're expensive with nice. Aye, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
And I've said this years ago and I will continue
to say. This passport will eventually be the required form
of identification.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
I want to flat say that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
And the biggest reason why I'm pushing that because with
the new IDs, the easiest way to get one is
with a passport. So a lot of people are either
going to have to go through the problem having fourteen
pieces of identification, or either they gonna have to sacrifice
and pay for a passport so they can go, hear,
my passport, yay, yay, and y'all can move on with
y'all lives, because you know, you have to consistently renew
these things they have to keep coming up. And also,

(01:13:40):
I think eventually, if fucking Trump have his way, eventually
when it asks for your ID, a passport is gonna
be required. They'd be like, won't go fuck about that.
Do you got an American issue passport? We need to
be sure that you actually hear like you say you're
supposed to be here. I'm opening up my third eye
because I'm like, they want you to have background checks,
you know, cause they want to get rid of legals.
So they're gonna be like, did you go through the

(01:14:01):
proper process, did you show your documentation? Like you know,
people's names and ship like like not matching this ship
like that. I'm like, oh, this is going to be
a problem. So in my mind, eventually it's gonna be
a required form of ID.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Okay, Yeah, we'll see about all that. I think a
passport is very useful and valuable if you have, if
you can afford to get one, I would suggest you
get it, not under the dire circumstances that Karen is saying.
I just don't find it to be kind of convenient.
And uh, I don't you know. I feel like once

(01:14:35):
we get to the point where they're asking you to
show your passport, I think it's not gonna matter. If
they decide you can't be in this country, you just
ain't gonna be in this country. I don't think it's
gonna matter. You got your passport and all that shit.
They'gna be like you black, ain't you get the fuck out? No,
don't be agreeing. I'm disagreeing with you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
You just said the opposite. I didn't say they ever
gonna honor it and say you were right. I just
said it gonna make it, might have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
It, then you might as well not even have It's
my point.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
I also don't think it's that difficult to go to
the DMV with some other paperwork. Is I just think
the passport is the most convenient, Like it's just it's
the easiest one. But it ain't hard. Like I could
have got my real ID without my passport. It was
like two other pieces of paper or some shit. It's
not like you don't need a lot of paper. It's
so if you're listening out there and you're like, I

(01:15:20):
don't have a passport, am I gonna be able to
get real ID?

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
You can go to the website look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
There are other things you can do. There's like bills,
there's a bunch of shit, you can birth certificates, social
Security cards, whatever the fuck. There's other stuff out there
that you're paced up, Like this shit you can bring
just look it up in your state and find out
what it is. But all that being said, passport very convenient,
very very worthwhile. All right, Apple, say it's my privileged

(01:15:50):
our post office. But wait, we already said this. I
guess you posted this twice? Yeah, okay, or maybe I Oh, no,
I was on YouTube. That's what it was. I'm sorry
I look at the wrong comment section. All right, My
mom says the Post Office story was time was hilarious.
Thank you. J Ful said, I love how Karen says, motherfucker.
She be singing the hard R on that mother to

(01:16:14):
let niggas know she means business. Candy O.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Ford says Schumer hopefully was playing the long game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
It's not like the Democratic base has never sent them
out on the limb and deserted them at the polls
in September. He may go for the shutdown because the
bass is organizing themselves and pushing them to fight. Obama
used a lot of capital to get the ACA. Biden
pushed student loan forgivens, etc. Policies. Sanders and Warren Folks
said they needed Harris went anywhere, everyone to everyone to

(01:16:42):
get votes. Promised all the liberal policies that claim they
want a Democrats still stay home. Yeah, Candy, I just
think if that's true, then Schumer should have articulated that.
That's all. Like, I feel like some people are helping
him out in the way he's not helping himself. And
when you're the lead, you need to be the one
communicating a message that would make me understand what you

(01:17:04):
just did and what he's been doing on this week
long talk circuit that he's been going on trying to
sell his book that he can't even now do a
tour about because people are so unhappy with him. It
has not given me confidence that he has a plan.
It just felt like capitulation for the capitulations sake. Jason says,

(01:17:24):
no doubt the conservative podcast Dominus is depressing. The thing
about the liberal podcast they always say stuff like we
all know Trump is bad, it should go without saying,
and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna need you to go
ahead and say it. Though, agree those MAGA podcasts never
let anything bad about liberals go without saying. Anyway, the
post office story was the best I feel for those employees.
If I'm being honest, my eight am experience and my

(01:17:45):
five pm experience are both pretty bad. I hate when
someone walks in right when we open. Actually, my neon
experience ain't great either. A brother trying to get to lunch.
If you want the optimal Jason, ten am to two
pm are your best chances you'll get the full time.
Scott smiling Nego experience. Finally, y'all didn't rank the gender
Wars those ladies played for you considering it hijack the

(01:18:08):
hijack banter. It has to be considered Hall of Fame level.
I thought we said ten out of ten, but yeah,
it was ten out of ten Gender Wars. It's amazing, Joe.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
I think we just started clapping, so we don't know
if we gave a score or not, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
It was ten out of teen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
That was one of the best ones. That was one
of the best ones ever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
And there was something else she said, Oh, and we
went to another post office and the guy was very nice,
and it was right before they closed, So I don't know,
different post office, different strokes, I guess. But his post
office up and wasn't over everybody rich white people, so
maybe she'd be dealing with some different type of folks.
That's true too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
All right, let's get some more music and then we'll
come right back.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
Psycho.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
All right, I forgot to say the Poe. Would you
have intervened at the post office if you were riding Karen,
Yes or no? Six percent? Yes, ninety four percent no, Yeah,
I feel comfortable with my no.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Me too. I think we made the right decision.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Thirty sixty six self evaluations, seven comments. Oh and I
just want to bring something back real quick, because I
also meant to say this part. Remember when I said
post election, I was not the person to be trying
to bring people into the fold, even though I recognize
someone needs to do that. That's what I'm talking about.

(01:19:58):
I don't have the patience for somebody come up up
here and be like, I listen, I don't like trans people,
But but what bitch, go find another show to listen to.
The fuck kind of what do you think this is?
It's not a I'm not working for the Democratic Party.
I don't give a fuck what you do. If you
want to keep suffering and keep us having a shitty
ass world, then that's your fucking prerogative.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
You and every Trump supporter agreed on that y'all want.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Y'all won. So you know who else agrees trans people
need to go away? You and all the fucking Republicans
go be with your friends. This ain't the show for you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Fuck out it, and you don't have this isn't like
a public form.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
You don't have a right to access to us like
I said. I remember saying that when that person wrote
that shit a long time and goes like, hey, you
can stop writing up here about this. I don't give
a fuck. I said what I said, and I feel
vindicated and writing. There's nothing you said logically that would
make me reconsider that, and my job is to make
you reconsider shit. I appreciate when people do right, but
I don't get on the mic like, man, they gonna

(01:20:59):
reconsider it. I'm like, I like what people do, but
if not, if your fucking bigotry is too strong to
see it, then it's just too fucking strong to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
We used to have people that are right up here
and they're like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
A Christian, I don't think gay people. I don't agree
with their lifestyle first, and our same thing to them.
Then stop writing up here because I don't give a
fuck that you don't agree with their lifestyle. Then this
ain't the show for you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
It is not go listen to plenty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
I'm sure there's plenty of other ignorant ass niggas that
will tell you shit to make you feel good, but
that is not my job anyway. Shoe Boody says on
our last episode thirty sixty six Self evaluations. Man, just
look you dead in the face and say, no one
gets succeed expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Okay, then stop making me evaluate myself.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Right, that's my whole point. What's the point is so
nobody gets it?

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
So they told you don't do that. It's not there, okay,
cause that's a big thing, Karen. The first sentence is, man,
just look you dead in the face and say no
one gets to exceed expectations.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
Is the fact that they was like they was like,
most people will not get it sez expectations. Like like
that was flat saying and it wasn't mean or anything
like that. They was like, you would literally have to
be like going and getting a fucking promotion. They was like,
most people are going to get meet expectations. So they
told you this when oh and one of them one

(01:22:22):
on one type of things. So is it after you've
already evaluated yourself or is it before you fill it out? Okay, yes,
big And they was like, we want to let you
know up front so you won't get disappointed when when
you when we turn around to give you a meet expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Okay, yeah, I don't think that's the same thing as
telling you you can't get expected, Okay, all right, I
just want to I just think there's two things happening here,
and I'm just gonna come out and say it. I
think there's the inner voice in your head that you know,
the one that sometimes reacts like I'm yelling at them
if I say, uh no, Karen, you just need to

(01:22:59):
head like have you tried hitting control out the lead?
And then you just freak out on me like like
I said, like I jumped up and said, did you
hit control out the league? You dumb motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
So there's that, and then there get anxiety, right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
In which I think a lot of us have. A
lot of us have, especially about self evaluation. You know,
it's like every time someone tells us to write an
excerpt about our podcast, and it's like, can you write
your own profile about it? And I'm like, I don't
even know what to say. We've done so much stuff,
but I feel weird. Saying like Ryan and Karen are
married Southern couple that has been one podcast was like

(01:23:34):
it feels weird, right. So there's that, But then there's
this other part that is very real, which is corporate
structures and double speak and bullshit. Yes, So I'm trying
to figure out what is real and what is just
people's inner voice. So that's why when you started agreeing
like yeah, no one, they said, no one gets see expectations.
I'm like, is that a thing that happened or is

(01:23:55):
that a thing you think is the thing that happens.
So they said, no one gets to see most people don't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
They was like, if you get it, you're going somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Like because I thought you also had told me that
you have put exceed expectations on things before, and they
agree with you. Yes, But so I feel like, if
no one is supposed to put that, why wouldn't they
have told you No, Karen, we told you earlier you
don't get to say exceed. We don't give a fuck
if you came in early, if you worked sixty hours.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
We told you no one gets that. So you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Take that off.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
No. The thing is, it's it's a bunch of shit,
and you put exceeds most of them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I put meat, right.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
There's a handful I put exceed, But this will be
somebody will put exceed for every single solitary category, Like like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
All right, but who I don't mean even a dick,
But who the fuck would do that? That wasn't full
of shit? Like I'm not saying people do that, right,
but that don't. So it's the employee always right. What
are we saying here? Because like I feel like if
if you put exceed expectations for every part of your job,

(01:24:58):
I would be like, what the fuck did you think
the expectations were?

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Yes, Sarah, Yeah that's coming in bus day, bubba gonna ay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
So like cause like we've only been on the workers
side this time, and I agree, I understand, but like,
is there no such thing as that we don't all
have a delusional coworker where it's like this bitch thing
she got earth to gift of the earth.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Yes, we do, Like I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Anyway, I I hear what y'all saying. I think it's
just more of an anxiety thing though, Like I don't
want to have to think about how good or bad
of a job. I want you to come in and
do your job and just tell me right. But I
think some of it's turning into.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Like you make me do your job.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Yeah, I feel like that's what the rejection is not necessary,
Like I think self evaluation is actually pretty healthy. I'm
sure there's people that came up with this at the
company that weren't trying to fuck everybody over. They were like,
they were like, you know what would help? I guarante
this is why I'm saying. I guarantee you what a
self evaluation came from was somebody getting a bad evaluation

(01:26:03):
and saying I should be able to evaluate my fucking
self so that when we come to this meeting, I
have something to say too. And now everyone's doing it.
It's like, fuck this, I don't like, this is not
changing anything, But I guarantee you self valuation and come
out of nowhere because I remember being in corporate America
and having these meetings without a self evaluation and being like,
what the fuck? I feel blind sided, Whereas if I

(01:26:25):
went in with my self evaluation, I can at least
be like, Okay, you're saying this, here's what I'm saying anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
I get it, and everything's and I understand that perspective,
and everything's documented and everything you know too through people
look like your manager looks at a supervisor looks at it,
HR looks at it, everybody looks at it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Then I get that you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Don't like it. But I'm trying to figure out how
much of the not like it is just anxiety about
evaluating yourself, and how much of it is literally like
it just don't matter what you put, period. They don't
give a fuck because I I ask.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
You specific questions ninety five.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Here's the thing. I asked you specific questions during that segment,
and I was checking to see what the answers were.
And when you said sometimes you do put exceeds expectations
and when you put it they agree with you, I went, okay.
So then I'm glad they did the self evaluation because
you would not do that. You would never walk in
anyone's office and tell them I'm exceeding expectations. You would

(01:27:24):
never do that, and only in that format would you
advocate for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
You would just go to work and you wouldn't do shit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Yeah, So like I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Yeah, because I'm forced to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
So I don't know what other people do with their jobs,
and I don't know how they do their jobs. But
like part like, to me, that's a sign that it
is working to an extent, even if you don't like it,
like it's still I'm not saying yah, I like it.
But like if you would have told me, well, no,
I don't put exceeds expectation. I just don't want to
stick out. I just put meets expectation for everything, then

(01:27:59):
I would be like, okay, yeah, I can see your point,
it doesn't matter. But when you're like no, sometimes I
go above me on and I put that down, I'm
like good because if not, you would never go into
an office. You would never ask for a raise, you wouldn't.
You would never say I expect more better treatment. You
would never do that. You would just get a check
and then you would go home and you just would

(01:28:20):
not think about it again. But if you're doing more
or you complain about it, I'm doing more work than
I'm supposed to be doing and no one's acknowledging me.
But then you have to acknowledge it yourself and then
put that in writing and then go meet with your
manager and say yeah, I did put that down, and
then for them to have to say yeah, you did
do that. That was never going to happen without self evaluation.

(01:28:44):
So I'm not really against self evaluation.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
Now that now that particular statement, that is a true
statement because I think for me I do.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
I get in my own mind. I get it in
my own head, and.

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
It's like I think, for me, it's huge anxiety because
I'm like, okay, now you're making me have to I
don't say, dude. And it also depends on your personality
that you have. You know some people. I'm a brag
by myself, but I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Hey, I don't know these other people. I know you, yes,
And I know that was the point you made, and
I wasn't gonna know, but you on the show for
your banter. But now that it's coming up in the feedback,
and I'm sure it's gonna be a lot more people writing,
then I'm not really against this, especially when it comes
to women, because women almost I mean, we know for
a fact women do not advocate for themselves at work.

(01:29:35):
They don't go in for the raise, they don't negotiate
the job or the salary. They don't they don't push.
They like, if anything, they feel eky for pushing, Like
I hate this. You're gonna make me have to say
that I did a good job, Like yeah, you should
say you did a good job.

Speaker 5 (01:29:53):
If you did a good job, yeah, and and and
maybe I had to be like this, I personally think.
I know some people will be like that no matter what,
but I really think society as a whole has failed
us because you know, when it comes to that, most
women are kind of taught to kind of put themselves
and everything, and I think that comes out in these evaluations.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Yeah, when you have men that don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
Shit will swing, they dick and be like, I get
all the raisers, you just gonna respect me. They don't
even care if they're fucking unqualified for the job. But
yet you know, mediocre, but still get the raises, and
it's like, well, I'm doing more in him, right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Men are confident. Men will advocate for shit they don't
even deserve, right, But yeah, I don't know. Is interesting
a lot of the people that seem to hate it.
It's a lot of women that seem to hate it
in the chat room, ratchet ass signs it just have
my avial. I hate it like a lot of women's
shoe boody, she don't like it. If this whole song

(01:30:50):
and dance is to see what percentage point raise you've
already decided I'll be getting, then let's just say everyone's
time here. Give me what I'm getting there, let's move along.
But your young lady another woman to him. Not a
fan of self evaluations. I've been told many times nobody
gets exceed expectations. Well, that makes me feel great. I've
always shown up and shown out at jobs. But what
difference does it make. At least Karen's job actually works

(01:31:12):
to improve conditions. I've never experienced that. Apia says that
Jonathan Majors always worried about his girlfriend or wife as
they seem to be married. Now she went all in on.
He's a great guy and just misunderstood. Should she experience
some of his aggressions, she would be even less likely
to admit it because everyone will say, we told you so,
Why did you even get with him? It's classical woman

(01:31:32):
savior trap. Yeah, good luck to Meghan Majors is she?
I won't to know what did she change her name?
I don't even know what they really got married. They
said it was like they jumped the broom in the
living room in front of their parents. I'm like, I
don't even know. Just so happened? Yeah, it just so
happened at the same time that this leak came out. Anyway,
Sean says as an educator and research of the research

(01:31:54):
shows that an education low performance students tend to inflate
their self evaluations and high performing students to deflate their
self evaluations. From a business perspective, if the research on
the educational self evaluation carries over the business self evaluation,
if anyone took self evaluation seriously, they would help elevate
the less qualified and suppressed exceptional employees. Nev says self

(01:32:15):
evaluations aren't allowed by my union contract because they're pretty
unfair and inaccurate. Many people who are high performers tend
to devalue that. That's what Sean just said, devalue the
work and vice versa. There's no sense in letting that
skew things like your pay. Yeah, and that's what I'm
That's what I find interesting is like, is Karen Erica
and Shoe Boody are they adverse to these evaluations because

(01:32:40):
they are good performers or higher work and they and
they're downplaying their shit. They're like, well, nobody gets a
gets exceeding expectation, so let me just not say I'm
doing that, as opposed to like, no, if you did,
you did fuck what they said? They don't them come
in this room. And maybe that's just my mind, but
come in this room and make me prove that I'm not.

(01:33:02):
If I'm I'm not saying I'm alive, but if I'm
exceeding expectations, I'm not gonna not tell you I'm exceeding expectations.
If you told me the job is from eight to
five and I'm leaving this bitch at six, that happened.
So I'm not gonna trick myself into being like, well,
fuck me, man, that's just part of job. Now. I'm
doing more than you told me to do. If you say, hey,

(01:33:23):
the goal was to do five hundred invoices a month,
and I'm doing seven hundred, I'm exceeding expectations. That's that's
a fact, like we we don't have to doesn't mean
I'm gonna get a thirty seven percent raised, but it
might be I'm putting I'm putting exceeded on this fucking
sheet for this. That's just me. Though, not to mention women,

(01:33:43):
A certain minorities of people with anxiety tend to be
harder on themselves. I wish less people had to do
self advisal scam. Yeah, it's seem like I said, I
just take a step back real quick and ask yourself this,
why do we have the self value now? We didn't
always have them, And I'm guessing that you're gonna arrive

(01:34:04):
at some point that not having them was even worse
than having them. That's my guess. A lot of people
were like, when I didn't have them, I also didn't
get a raise, but also I didn't really know how
the fucking good I was doing it, and when I
did above me on, it wasn't acknowledged because the managers

(01:34:25):
need you to acknowledge it now so that they can
acknowledge it. I think that because most people won't go
into that meeting and truly go, like without that self
evaluation prompt, will truly go in there and go I
did more invoices than y'all said, and that means something. Yeah,
you know what I mean. You're hoping that your manager

(01:34:46):
picks up on it. But what if they don't that's true?
What are they just not that good a manager? Don't
give a fucking They just like, yeah, so mes expectations.
Everything you did was fine, you still got a job,
a two percent raise. By it's like, nah, let's talk
about it. So I don't know. It's it is difficult,
and I do understand as a personal anxiety too. I
just think, hmm, I've made my case. I just said

(01:35:09):
we have self value.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
I just think that, you know, you just need to
advocate more for yourself and and and and and.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Which no one, not no one. Most people don't do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
You and I noticed we're talking about you at this point.
You were not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
This is the only way you're going to advocate for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
True because I was forced to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
Yeah, the thing because because I was kind of forced to,
and I don't know, you know what that says about me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
But you know, I'm like, can't I just get my
paycheck go home? And they like, no, we need for
It's almost like tell us about yourself. It's like, well,
I'm me. There's like, no, that's not sufficient.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Yeah. I don't know, man. I get. I get people
just don't want to be bothered. They just want that
check and they just want to go home. I get that,
but I don't know, man. Self evaluation is the one
time of year where you're allowed to advocate for yourself.
So I don't want to hear. I don't want to
hear that even this is bad. You know what I'm saying,

(01:36:18):
Rod really is a man that self advocations for a
black woman is hard. I'm not saying. I know I'm
a man. I know I got male privileged. I know
it's hard. But that's kind of why I'm with the
self evaluation cause it's a non confrontational way to do it.
All of us have to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
It's a non confrontational way.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
We all roll our eyes at it. And if you
really are feeling like you are being because you know
what else is is true. It's like how many black
women feel like they not appreciate it at their jobs.
You know how many people will come home and complain
about how much they do and then change nothing, be
miserable at work every fucking day, or.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Just leaving nobody knows why they left.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's worth. I don't know. I
could see if y'all were saying like it was better
the other way, But all I'm seeing is people being
fucked in silence the other way, And in this way,
you got a slight chance to be like, no, I
did do a good job, that's it. I don't you know,

(01:37:22):
if they gonna give you three percent. They're gonna give
you three percent. It's not you know, I can nothing
I can change about that. But like, the idea is
not a bad idea. Corporate culture is fucked up, so
it could be other things, but you know, this corporation
you're working for now is actually pretty positive, it is,
you know, So I don't I don't, you know, at

(01:37:44):
that point, it just becomes about you. And that's and
this isn't being my own brain. Yeah yeah, this isn't
me saying like I don't give a fuck black women. Uh,
y'all done for not advocating for yourselves whatever other shit.
I'm just saying, like black women don't advocate for themselves,

(01:38:06):
even with them being excellent at jobs, being better at
jobs and all that stuff. There needs to be a solution.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Yeah, So what's the solution, y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Because if it's not, you got to speak up for
yourself in some type of format that's non confrontational like
these evaluations. I don't know that. I don't know what
it is because you don't want to walk into no
one's office and do it and they're never gonna recognize
you because they're just good fucking people and they you know,
I realize today like that you're put it this way,
that can happen, but you're at the whims of having

(01:38:41):
a good boss or no, whereas the evaluation is not.
There's no whims to that. That's me, baby, I did
more than you told me to do, and I would
like to be compensated or at least acknowledged that I'm
doing that. That's it, And the last thing I'll say
is I'm still a nigga. I've been in corporate America.
Y'all have held me talking about corporate America. I was

(01:39:01):
not no mover in climber. I fucking hated corporate America.
I was depressed. I did not have any goals. I
was the kind of person that was like, I don't
want to go in the office and ask for a raise.
So I'm not telling you anything that didn't affect me, like,
I don't know what. Maybe because you hear this podcast
and it's our opinions, you feel a certain way. But
you can look at my fucking pictures from working in

(01:39:22):
corporate America. I hated that shit. I was not a
guy that walked into the office and said I'm a
man and I would like five percent raise please. I
was a walking to the office and they just don't
fire me for my evaluation. I go, thank God Jesus,
that was it. So I'm not telling y'all anything I
didn't experience. So let's not try to turn it into

(01:39:44):
some weird old shit like I just I'm just a
try to be fair of everybody in the situation, and
especially with Karen. I'm like, I know that from experience,
you have anxiety about praising yourself. I do praising yourself.
You have anxiety about stuff you earned. Yes, no, like

(01:40:05):
no one can stop you from you did that work.
You should get that thing. And it's like, I don't
want to be a problem, right the self evaluation might
be the only way for Karen to do that, And
I'm like, I don't even when you hate it. Sometimes
you have to do things you hate.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
You do, yeah, you do, and every time I just
push through it. And you know, it's one of those
things where I do keep a tracking things like that.
And also one good thing about it, because it's not
all bad. One good thing about it is that it
forces you to reflect, because sometimes you're just doing doing
doing doom and you might not reflect. You picked up

(01:40:43):
a responsibility or two, or you was asked to pick
up an extra task or two, or all of a
sudden you learn something else in the system, or you
learn something new in the system, or you got a
Foremost certification, or you know, you know, you're kind of
doing the same thing, but you went from a regular
person to a lead or something like that. Like like

(01:41:03):
small changes, but they all changes. And this gives you
a chance to actually sit down in your thoughts and
write the things out. The thing is, like you say,
it is a non confrontational way to get out your
achievements without you having to deal with looking somebody in

(01:41:23):
the eye and things like that. Yeah, they're gonna read
your words, but that's very, very different.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
And I guarantee you the self evaluation was the result
of somebody's hard work trying to solve this problem. They
didn't just wake up and go, how do I fuck
everybody over there? They were like, how do I make
it a better environment? You know? It's the people.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
It's like people that complain about like.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
All this di training. Why we got to do all
this training about black people and women and gay people
and shit. Just I just want to come to work
and go home it's like, because somebody else's job at
your job is to make that training because they think
it will improve the workplace. That's why I happen on
self evaluation. They were like, look, people don't feel heard.
People feel ambushed. They don't know what we're gonna talk

(01:42:05):
about in these valuations.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
People feel shocked. And I guess yeah, and and and
and and and that makes sense. They did say that.
They was like, hey, people feel We don't want people
feel blindsided. That was that was the biggest thing. We
want people to know kind of where.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
They now, the corporate the corporate culture of it. I
think this is just my what I'm feeling. My guess
is maybe they when they say nobody meets or most
people won't get exceeded expectations. I think what they're trying
to say is a meats expectations is not bad. No,

(01:42:40):
it's not which a lot of people I think do
not feel that way. Like they might hear that, they
might understand it intellectually, but it's like if you leave
your evaluation and all you got was meets expectations, part
of you feels like am I not doing a good job?

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
And so I think what they're saying to y'all up front,
because there's not a better way to say it is, Hey,
if you don't get exceeds expectations, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
You're still safe, your job is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
We don't think the one you don't want is didn't
meet expectation. That's the one that's what you don't want.
We think ninety five percent of y'all should get meats
expectations if you're doing the shit right, and if you
get and if you get exceeds, we want you to
know that that's because you're in the top blank percent
as people that are going above and beyond. Yes, and

(01:43:32):
we are going and we are acknowledging that, and it
will come across hopefully in your conversation or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
I think that's what they have to say going in
so that people because of anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
I just but it's just funny, because anxiety is so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
It flips in your brain to meats expectations, ain't ship
as opposed to being like, oh, mis expectation, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Yeah, because you were like, well, if I'm to get
a mes expectation, none, shit the fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
It's funny romantics, but it's funny i'b just says they
don't want to do it very often. Oh she said
her last round she got exceeded expectations. They don't want
to do it very often because that means paying more money.
We have to. We have so so many systems here
and my company is Swiss, so it's not even a
German thing. I have to write myself goals for the
year now and talk them through with my supervisor. I'm

(01:44:20):
reading how the US is behaving towards tourists now, and
I'm glad that we have been to our to your
country many times in the past, because I'm way too
afraid to visit anytime soon. Why should I spend a
large amount of money only their land in jail for
no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Wonder how this will affect the economy?

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Oh oh yeah, yeah. People already said it was going
to impact the economy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
Y'all would be straight because y'all white.

Speaker 5 (01:44:39):
But yeah, but yeah, it's it's you know because even
prior to Trump getting elected, economists were already talking about this.
It was like, yeah, the large cities like DC in
New York and you know, California and Florida. They was like, yeah,
prior to once Trump got elected, they were saying, yeah,

(01:44:59):
tourism drop because people was like, oh no, no, no, no,
we were we remember last time, and we don't want
to deal with with all the bullshit with the immigration
and all those things. So a lot of people just
started putting other places on their traveling destination, you know,
because particularly all side, particularly DC and New York, they
are like one of the largest travel destinations in the world,

(01:45:21):
particularly DC, where people just come from all over and
this whole ass economy is built around people coming to
the monuments and and all that shit in DC coming
to these I mean, I mean New York coming to
these places, and that money is getting ready to dry up,
you know, because particularly these places are very expensive for
the average person, so a lot of them, a lot

(01:45:43):
of the difference is made up by the tourism.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Eve says. When I worked at Corporate America, self evaluations
pissed me off because no matter what you put, management
already made up their minds a kind of employee that
saw you as and how much they thought you were worth.
I gave myself above averages all the time because I
didn't murder the people who would get on my nerves,
and I was proud of my restraint.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
I don't miss that shit at all. You were right
about rbrey Rod.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
The Manu sphere is the only place he can retreat
because even a lot of his white fans clowned the
R and B album he made last month.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Oh yeah, man, that shit came and win. I still
haven't listened.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
I don't hear anyone talking about it other than to
make fun of him. I don't think it even charted.
It definitely charted because it's Drake, but I because I
remember something like Drake has taken the number one song
and then literally twenty four hours later, Kendrick had it back.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
And I was like, shit, he on his ass because
Kendrick's song.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Oh, I don't think it even charged da da da.
At this point, I'm not sure if he will ever
get back to where he once was. He may be
able to make a couple hits in time, but he
will never be on the top again. Yeah. I don't
know what. Yeah, I don't worry about him coming back
to the top, Like it's not my job to fix it.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't see the path
for him. Let's see comments on YouTube. He just says,

(01:47:00):
you're so right about those self evaluations. I don't miss them.
Do y'all not see the irony that every person that's
written and it has been a woman so far. I
swear to God, I'm not cherry picking any of these,
but yeah, yeah, it's something. Yeah, women are like, y'all
don't see it. Like I'm not saying it's easy to
be a woman. I'm actually saying it's pretty difficult. But

(01:47:21):
unless you make women do self evaluation, I really do
wonder if they would even do it, and they already
kind of seem to be downplaying doing it, Like, can
we just not ever have to talk about how good
a job I'm doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Can we never talk about how great I am at
my job? Just pay me? But you're doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
This is not a joke. Next person, Sherry, I appreciate
Karen's hatred to self a vowals. I can't stand them myself.
I say that as someone who helps organizations design the
whole performance management process. So you you help to.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
Do it to make it, you help make the evaluations,
and you're like fuck them.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
To make the process meaningful, you would need leaders who
actually care about your career progression. That's facts, but you
would need that whether you had to evaluate it or not.
So I guess what you're saying is the evaluation just
makes it an extra step. That's bullshit. So all right,
uh EMK says, Oh yeah, I can attest if you
put expectations because you and your job exceed expectations. Because

(01:48:23):
you do and your job is really demanding and you
do exceed expectations all the time, they will still put
me expectations and they will talk to you about how
you don't exceed expectations, and they'll think you don't have
the ability to accurately evaluate things. It's kind of gross
as a point goes as a point against you, jerks.
That's another woman. By the way, women don't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Like seven evaluates.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
We're like six or seven.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
Don't make me talk about myself.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Waiting on a dude to come in. I'm sure there's
maybe no no dude anyway, big tone, says yo Rod.
I never heard of this transgender person hunter Shaeffer. So
I looked her up and fam, she looks like a woman.
That's why I don't date older women with biological kids. Oh,
that's why only date with older women with biological kids.

(01:49:14):
Can't get caught slipping with Dayton rules like that you
feel me, Actually I don't feel you, Big Tom. Here's
why I don't feel you though. The idea is that,
first of all, I think that's an insane thing to
say that you're only dating older women with biological kids
because you're so afraid someone might be trans. That's an

(01:49:35):
insane thing to say to me, just because how would
you let that amount of fear dominate your life that way?
Not saying you have to prefer the data trans person
or anything, I'm just saying that is a weird way
to navigate life, Like, I better give me a fifty
year old with six babies so I know what I'm
getting into. That's the most important thing. I would never

(01:49:57):
just trust that a woman has a vagina ever again.
So that's one thing that's weird. The second thing that
the reason I would say is weird to me is
this idea that a.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Trans person's entire life and entire.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Outward of peers is about tricking some dude into dating them.
I promise you trans people aren't the biggest fear of
a trans person, especially a trans woman, is a dude
like you, a dude who's feel some sort of entitlement

(01:50:38):
to I'm gonna be tricked and I'm gonna have to
do something or prove something, or I'm gonna be upset
by this person. They don't want to be around you
anymore than you would want to be around them. Period.
There's no They don't get a badge of honor for
how many guys I tricked in the sex with me
or being attracted to me or any of that shit.

(01:50:59):
The number one killer of trans women is men straight
cis gender men who who knew for whatever reason, for
whatever reason, but not that they were tricked. But that
is the biggest lie that men who murder and harm
trans women tell people. We've done.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
We've done story after story after story on this.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Show, to the point where I have tried to limit
how many of those stories I do because they are
there's a certain level of like, uh, I don't want
to turn it into like a weird ass like like
a oh, man, I'm proving I'm such a better person,
y'all because these people are dying.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
And it's but like we've done so many of these
stories and also low key I feel like people stop
covering them as much. But we've done so many stories like,
that's not what's happening. You're not being tricked.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
No one gives a fuck. I don't know you, big tone.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
I don't know what circles you run in, but I
doubt that it's just a bunch of trans women constantly
walking around like how can I trick you? Transfo aren't
trying to trick you to use the bathroom and not
trying to trick you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
To to go on a date with them.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
And not trying to trick you to have kids with
them or marry them or any of this shit. It's
not the crying game. If anyone's telling not upfront about
their sexual orientation or sexual like what organs they have
under that, it's because you don't need to fucking know,
and you're not on the list, and if anything telling
you you might be more of a threat to tell you,

(01:52:23):
so I'm not gonna tell you. But yeah, that's that's
that's a weird thing to write into our show. And also,
you don't get no extra points for being like, I'm
so straight, bro, Rod, I know you in me because
you didn't right to care. Hey, Rod, you know, and
I think low key of the lowest of kids, which
is high key for every trans person that's probably listening

(01:52:44):
to clock this already. What your real translation of this
sentence that you wrote is is I looked up Hunter
Schaeffer and I was attracted to her.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Yeah, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
That's what you really said. And something about that made
me feel like I need to sing to you Rod
that I would never have sex with a trans woman.
That's really what you needed to say to get that
off your chest. And I say, keep it in your
fucking diary. I don't. I don't give a fuckkar Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
And there's also one of those things where for trans people,
people that they are intimate with they know, because we've
read too many articles where people claim that trans panic
and come to find out they they.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Knew like like they knew a.

Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
Friend or they boy somebody found out they panicked and
they fucking killed them. They're not intimate with people and
the person is don't know. So that the trickery part.
I don't know what to tell you, you know about
You're not being tricked like they you know, if it
gets to the point where it gets serious like that,
they will let you know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Like you say, for most of the time, you.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
Are not close enough to that person for them to
feel like it's your only obligation to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
It's the male fragility and ego and the home phobia
and the transphobia that all combines into this idea of like,
they're gonna try to trick me. I bought a drink
because I thought she was a sis gender woman, And
now what does that mean about me? What is it?
What did you do? What did you just say to me?
What did you do to me? It's like, what, it's
not that big a deal. Calm down? You know what else?

(01:54:18):
I guarantee you've bought somebody else a drink that also
wasn't gonna fuck you. So now y'all have that in common.
What the fuck? Who cares? Anyway? Thumbs down? Uh? Next time,
of course, hide from the channel. That's what we're doing now,
we hot they're playing hide and seek on the YouTube channel. Okay,
we're not doing this back and forth with the I
don't like trans people. Good, go start a fucking uh,

(01:54:40):
go go tell a T shirt. I don't I don't want.
It's not for our podcast. This is not that space.
Dona Tillo says, I'm I live in the Norfolk area.
One business made a candle name local woke Mob. I'm
going to get one before they sell out.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
Hill Shaw says that father sulbconsciously hates that transgender son.
I agree the father who was like, I vote for
Donald Trump, but MO about my trains out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
I mean, I don't regret voting for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
But you know, Damn Candy says, I'm with you, caring
those self evaluations are We do them twice a week
a year, and we have four to five actions to
meet and behavioral target professional goals. Blah blah blah. I
didn't have I didn't get any significant raises until after
the COVID shutdown lifted that people who were ready for
change left the company. Christolph says at the thirty seven

(01:55:31):
to fifty Mark, Okay, I'm mad now, Raphael, do you
have the relocation deals of Africa in the work lettering?
They say? Or no?

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Oh no, Jack, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
You're gonna end up in fucking Switzerland.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Jason says, Man Drake better be careful hanging out with
them tape boys.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
That's how you end up in the cell block one.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
Oh. I know. He doesn't seem to be the most
informed dude, but turn it maga for him right now?
Ain't the move that's not going to fly for him
at home? Well, it's interesting because did put out some
cryptic Instagram post about how like he was hoping that
he was gonna go dark or go not dark, but
like do some type of view turn or something that

(01:56:11):
was gonna be publicly harsh, and he was hoping his
fans were gonna be willing to follow him or something,
And I wonder if it could be this in Cell shit.
He's like, look, I'm just going for in Cell and
if you're a real fan, gonna fuck with me. Those
Canadians are born little girl singing an our anthem. He's
gonna end up homeless if he's out. If he out

(01:56:31):
puts out an album called Views from the fifty first.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
State, he might as well head to Romania with the
Tate Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Not the fifty first State.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Yeah. The Tates of Hazard self evaluations for work eighty
seven percent thing it is a waste of time, fourteen
percent say it's worthwhile thirteen percent whatever. But all right,
I'm not gonna fight for y'all more than y'all fight
for y'all self. So you know, I hope they get
rid of him or whatever else will make you'all lives better.
I don't care one way or other, but I'm just.

Speaker 5 (01:57:01):
Saying that I should just like, like, the more and
more you talk, the more logical you make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:57:09):
Because for me, like I said, more of me was
my anxiety talking on my end, and so I was like, Okay,
you gotta point, you gotta point, like like like, I
do understand the purpose of it, and it's forcing you
to go through a process that you might not like,
you know, but the end result is probably better for you,

(01:57:31):
and it probably might be better for the manager because
managers and ship out people too, so they might not
want to have to go through the conversations and things
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
They'll look at what you said and see if they
agree or not.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
Right, All right? Uh voicemails? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
I got two callers, don't know the first person.

Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
Hey, my babies, I shall play a pot show. Nate
just calling because you know i'd be behind and stuff.
I love when we get a little shout out. I
love getting teased. Y'all love language, So it makes me
feel like family. Come out here, sliping and flying through
these streets. Just wanted to say congratulations, I'm another successful
live show.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
I'll be rooting for y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:58:45):
Bought my little ticket even though I could fly through
basically the TikTok being. In my opinion, my humble opinion,
I think people are so defensive of it because you
could have so many different experiences, like, for example, I
don't get ads on Instagram, so I don't know why.
I don't know how when I see people complain about
Instagram apps, I'm like, never saw one. So like on TikTok,

(01:59:09):
I'm very protective over my four you page, and I
know that that nonsense is a hundent one there, so
I try not to watch more than a few seconds
or something. Sometimes I'd be nosy and get into some
makeup influencers mess, and now my whole for you page
is that mess. So I stay out of all that,
and I'm on there in my bed before I go
to sleep, rubbing my feet together like a cricket, recipes,

(01:59:32):
Broadway music tips and tricks. Ie bought up half the
TikTok shop, so addictive one of the reasons probably why
people are protective of it, but also like you could
just have so many different experiences. So when I hear
about all the drama mess I'm like, oh, sound like
a totally different app, like so much so that I
turned off my direct messages because I don't want people

(01:59:52):
sending me stuff, and then that takes over my for
you page. But either way, people just chill, just the
app you brought to love.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Oh yeah, and that and like that's the thing I
was trying to say. It too, is like I think
the customization of the algorithm is so good and so
addictive that it can trick people into thinking a mass

(02:00:27):
experience is happening for everybody at the same time. But
it's not.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
But if you take like ten steps back and look
at like the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
Bigger stuff, like like like I said, when I Google
who are the most followed accounts, that's just most followed
the counts. That doesn't matter if your personal experience is
like it is showing me bonnets and do rags like cool,
But clearly that's a you thing and you can have
that experience that which would would make people want to
defend it and go But isn't this everybody? No, the

(02:00:57):
general experience is not for everybody, and that and bad
stuff happens there too, such as lives of TikTok and
ship like that. Like anyway, but yeah, I appreciate your
nick ju and uh, you know, I'm glad you're out
here slip sliding in the streets. Were keeping up with you.
We see you in the I g okay, I'll be
in the stories. I'll see you singing out here. I
see you in the streets.

Speaker 5 (02:01:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
I ain't gonna say in case they don't follow you,
I ain't gonna say where'll you be traveling? But I'll
be seeing you out here. I'd love to see it.
I also just realize that because Skype is in and
it won't let me add new contacts, so it's like,
so like get the fuck out of here. By may
Nigga rent is too, we gonna have to change his number.

Speaker 3 (02:01:35):
So we're gonna change the number.

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
Y'all last ones from Allegra.

Speaker 4 (02:01:41):
Hi you too. It's Ale. I just got to listening
to your Bigger Bubbles episode. I like when you do
weird stuff. But also what you're talking about, if I
may add another label to it, is what I've been
calling like the era of the Bully. It's building for
so long and now they've they're reaching their apex. You know,

(02:02:05):
you've got the biggest bully of the moments in the
president and the person who's holding his purse strings. And
you know, it's the air of the bully. It's the
loss of integrity. That's what the bubbles are. There's no
more integrity. It's about who's the more popular. And it's

(02:02:27):
fascinating in a psychological evaluation of it. And it's incredibly
disturbing and frustrating and sad when you speak about the
humanity of it all. Once again, you guys are in
my head saying stuff I've been thinking about or saying
for many years. So love you guys. Keep up the

(02:02:50):
good work. Sorry that you always have to get mad,
but it's maddening.

Speaker 3 (02:02:56):
It just means our emotions are work it right, That's
one part me.

Speaker 5 (02:03:00):
I don't want to cut off like you know, because
the thing is it's really easy to kind of cut
your heart off and just make your heart cold.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
But I that's something I never want to do.

Speaker 5 (02:03:10):
I don't want to lose my humanity because they want
to act inhumane facts.

Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
But thank you, Alagra And now that's a good that's
a good. Yeah. The era of the bully. That does
feel like what we're in right now. Yeah, people, And honestly,
it doesn't even feel like it's necessarily a one side thing.
I feel like a lot of people are just even
liberal people at this point want a bully that. I
don't know if it's possible to have a liberal bully,
but they kind of want it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
If they could get one, they will.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
Yeah, they would like a bully for good people if that,
if that's possible. That's why everybody's like be mean, yell
at the Republicans do something, you know, it's like they
want that. That's the vibes. All right, let's do last segment,
which is uh, the well, last two segments, but emails
and the mail mail. All right, Girl Scout Cookies Crystal says, Hey,

(02:04:32):
I'm listening to episode Scamming is Life where you discussed
the Girl Scout Cookie lawsuits. So my daughter is a
Girl Scout and it's been one since she was in kindergarten.
As soon as you said the Moms across America, I'm
sure you probably talked about them before, but they are
a right wing group that essentially wants women back in
the kitchen. Oh, I didn't it didn't even register, but
the name sounded funny. I was like when I read it,

(02:04:54):
I was like.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Is this two dudes not from America?

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Because that's it's never the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:04:58):
It's never the truth.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
The name is always a lie.

Speaker 5 (02:05:01):
I know, be moms across them.

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
Now a million dads, I mean a million moms.

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
It's two dads.

Speaker 5 (02:05:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
They are the ones who target school boards. I'm not
going to say that I know for a fact, but
that's the rumor of them is so I feel like
them trying to take down the Girl Scouts is targeted approach.
Whether or not this is facts, because if I feel
like you test any food, you're gonna find traces of
everything that's been stated. But this is a way to
scare people from assuming the cookies, which the sales of

(02:05:30):
the cookies is what funds all the different opportunities the camps,
the different team and our learning opportunities for the Girl Scouts.
And I know you had mentioned about good luck about
safety and the Trump administration, but this is really their
way of targeting Girl Scouts because remember Girl Scouts teaches
women or girls about stem and being anything you want
to be in that girls could be entrepreneurs, and learn

(02:05:51):
about engineering.

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
Being very independent.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
My daughter's troop even taught them elementary for emergency first day.
So it's really about this manly anything that tells girls
that they should do anything other than being a wife
because a target approach to discredit their reputation. I'm sure
they will target barbing next because the message of be
anything you want to be a Yeah, I mean, I'm
completely with that. Honestly, you have me don't stop eating girls.

(02:06:14):
I was not gonna stop.

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
I was not either. I ordered some cookies online and probably.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
By the only reason I'm slowing down on cookies is
for my health goals. Okay, but Karen is clearly trying
to sabotage me and don't care. But but the other
thing I will say too is like I noticed a
lot of the sources reveal a lot because I feel
like that was from a right wing source. And that's

(02:06:42):
also the same place that I remember saying like, don't
like get off of avocado oil and such and such oil,
only olive oil or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
And I'm just like, what has rfk Jr.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Been promoting?

Speaker 3 (02:06:57):
What is he threw statement? What have you been promot
watch this man?

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
Our professor Carritha right saying, dear Rod and Karen, I
hope this message finds you well. I'm reaching out because
you you'll appreciate this. I was at a conference this
weekend and a popular culture scholar I hadn't seen since
before the pandemic was there. We had a ball catching up.
The next day, when I was in a very serious conversation,
he walked up and gave this to me in a
very solemn fashion. I hollered when I finally looked at it.

(02:07:24):
I took this picture today in my office. Having you
and Cary in the background makes this even funnier to me,
because nothing's wrong with it's funny. Also, the new the
blackout Tips poster arrived. I'll get eliminated and then put
up good vibe. Caritha. I'm gon show y'all picture of
what she was handed and I love this. I wish
I had one myself, but it's the MLK fan. But
he got the do rag home.

Speaker 3 (02:07:45):
Yes, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. History Month. You know that
was on somebody's poster.

Speaker 1 (02:07:56):
Yeah, somebody fired fromotion. Yeah, Rochelle says, Hi riding Karen,
I'm still behind all episodes of this social media TikTok
debate is really emblematic of how ingrained these mediums are
in our lives. It's unfortunate that social media has distorted
so much of our reality that there are so many
people who can't see it. I listened to a podcast
Dakoda ring why do so many coffee shops look the

(02:08:18):
same and how the algorithm is impacting our real lives?
Are we in the matrix? Has my third ie being open?
I've gotten back into reading and I'm reading not my type.
Automating sexual racism and online dating another place where the
algorithm can have a negative, negative impact in our real lives.
I know that you and Karen are avid readers and
have mentioned some books, but I would love a ride

(02:08:39):
of karen recommends recommended reading list. Oh, I have to
think about it.

Speaker 5 (02:08:45):
Yeah, Rod reads more than me, like as far as
like that heavy stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
Yeah, I have to think about it. But I'm sure
I can look through my kendle and find some stuff.
I heard all the negative energy coming at Karen and
it will not stand. Karen is a gym. Thank you
Karen for being you. Thanks Rod and Karen for doing
what you do. I'll probably catch the heat this week.

Speaker 3 (02:09:07):
Yeah, not gonna have somebody gonna have something to say.

Speaker 1 (02:09:10):
First of all, don't tell me to say I'm a
good at my job. Rod. As a black woman, I
suck and I should be allowed to suck.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
You will never understand as a man.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
How dare you see my actual value and potential?

Speaker 5 (02:09:25):
How dare you push me to be greater and advocate
for myself and and and and and put out all
my trophies and degrees and accolades and be like I.

Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
Did that ship.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
Oh so you think I'm all that? You must think
I'm all.

Speaker 5 (02:09:38):
That in the bag of chips, I am, but I
don't know how to tell them that I am.

Speaker 2 (02:09:42):
You probably think I'm cute, tood.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
You doing too much making me push myself, and shit.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
I'm not listening. Do what you want to do. But
eleven women rode in in a row, y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
Fee That goes to tell you how not time for
the hot ingrained. It is like like.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
In women to be like, wa, y'all talk to the therapists.
That's not my job. John says, good morning, Rod, and
Karen is so hilarious and dumb that dudes pull the
biology argument to try and justify non monogamy. They say
shit like planting my seed. But let's be real, unless
they are Nick Cannon, they don't actually want to have
a couple dozen babies, right like Elon Musk and doctor Umar.

(02:10:23):
They don't want all them problems. They just want to
fuck lots of women. Nothing wrong with that, but just
be honest to find yourself the right partner who's cool
with that, and give her the same freedom record scratch.
What makes it even more hilarious is that all the
biology shit goes right out the window when we look
at her perspective. Doctor David Lay, who is a psychologist
and the author of the book Insatiable Wives and one

(02:10:45):
of the leading experts on sex fetish a non monogamy,
pointed out on the podcast I Listen To that unlike men,
women have almost no limit on how many times they
can orgasm, how long they can go, how many partners
they can enjoy, etc. Whereas for most of us men,
unless we are twenty year old, was a porn star,
or a steady diet of viagra, we can only go
at it a couple times in a single day, if that.

(02:11:08):
If anything, is actually women who can say they are
built for multiple partners, assuming that's what they want, not us. Yeah,
but also on a purely like naturist, animalistic type of way, right,
because men always make this argument that like men should

(02:11:28):
have multiple women because men have so much sperm and
they can they want to procreate and make the earth.
If a woman, if we're going back to this caveman logic,
if a woman wants to diversify her interest and be
the most protected possible, she should want to have children
by many different men so that she always has some
source of somebody providing for her. Correct. If that's if we're.

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
Going to that diversify your assets.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Yeah, why would she put our eggs in one basket?

Speaker 3 (02:11:57):
One basket?

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
What if that lion dies and now she the pride
has no fucking leader. She would be better off having
seven babies daddies. So they're like, well, look, only one
of them got to strike it big or just take
care of take care of enough of us because they
don't want to see the mother or their child go
back do bad. But nah, we don't take it to
that level because all of a sudden, it doesn't look

(02:12:19):
as smart, you know, or it doesn't not look as smart.
It doesn't make men feel as value agreed, and so yeah,
all the arguments are very h generalized anyway, but yeah,
it's just whatever. Just be consenting adults and be up front.
You'll be all right. Somebody into everything, and I guarantee

(02:12:40):
you there is a type of woman that's like, you
can fuck other women and I don't want to fuck
anybody else. I don't know who they are, but they
out there somewhere, somebody will agree to every fucking thing.
We've all seen it. Everybody doesn't seen somebody in some
situation where you like, I don't even know how they
made that happen. It happens. It's fine. It ain't my bus.
As long as y'all consenting and no one's being abused. Fine,

(02:13:03):
people gonna judge you no matter what. Megan Megan, Meghan
Good is being judged right the fuck now, and she
and everything seems to be a consented relationship.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
With that, you can't escape the judgment of it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
H D.

Speaker 1 (02:13:16):
He says. But of course the dudes who love the
port to biology don't care, because at the end of
the day, they're just using it selectively and self servingly
to justify patriarchy. Thank you for a tend of about
ted talk with respect to the name Jayden. I just
wanted to chime in that I definitely would have guessed
Black on that story as well stephen A's voice just
for one. However, I have had a bunch of students
named Jayden over the past ten years that were Asian, American,

(02:13:38):
and Latino. It's a pretty popular name in those communities currently,
though not nearly as popular as Aiden. So keep that
in mind for when you play Guests the Race in
about ten years.

Speaker 5 (02:13:49):
Or so, when they start growing up and growing up
and becoming an adults.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
From your lips to God's ears, we're playing Guest the
Race ten years from now. We hope right, we do
all right? We got a couple of things in the mail.
The first one is this one. It came with a
card with a flower on it. It says, Hi, Rod
and Karen, thanks for a lovely show last week. It
was a wonderful visiting Charlotte for the first time, and
I can't wait to return. Here are some candles I

(02:14:17):
thought you would enjoy for my favorite uh local candle
maker here in New Jersey. Hope you love them all
the best. Nadine a k A shoe booty, and she
did get these these candles from wick it w which
is so clever. W I c k I T wicked candle.
Jersey Girl is one of them.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
Oh yeah, they're gonna get barn Baby. Don't worry about
de Debbi going by next week.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
Smells nice males like peonies.

Speaker 1 (02:14:46):
Is that how you pronounced thos?

Speaker 3 (02:14:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
And then sexy man, okay, uh, sexy man.

Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
I don't even I don't know what the subtitle is,
but uh, I sa, this is gonna smell. Yes, it
smells very.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Sexy and it's like an action.

Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
It smells a lot like me already. I don't know
if I'm to be able to smell this one in
the house. Probably it probably just smells like nothing to me.
That's sorry, my natural aroma. All right. And then we
got this one.

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
I haven't opened it yet, No, probably, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
But the Melander dress is on our website, The Black Autist,
like about and we have a wish list on Amazon,
and on the Amazon wish list like Karen put stuff,
I put stuff. And then y'all can oh shit, Oh

(02:15:48):
it's the Smart Fitness Scale from v SNC oh I
literally just put this on there. Let me see where's from,
because I got a suspicion on who it's from because
that person told me to put it on there, because
I was saying, how.

Speaker 2 (02:16:06):
Of course it didn't include the fucking Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
Sometimes I think they'd be forgetting to put the little
thing with.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
It ship it so fast they didn't even tell me
who it was from. But if it's who I think
is from, thank you, because she told me. We were
talking on the pregame about the end body test. That
tells me about my muscle game and stuff. Because sometimes
on the scale, you know, the number looks the same,
and I have a smart scale, but it's like, I

(02:16:33):
don't know how it's too smart. I don't know them numbers,
Like there's a setting that you can stand on it
and it just gives you a bunch of fucking numbers
that I don't get. And so I was just like, cool,
but I'm just gonna look at the weight number because
that's the one I know, and the other one that's
like three to four times twelve, I'm just gonna assume
it's calculus. Well, she said, well, this other scale will

(02:16:56):
give you like very understandable, like here's your muscle mass,
here's your this, that and the other and so. And
I'm sure it won't give me the exact like like
the anybody would be like your right arm has this
much muscle and has gained Yeah, so I'm gonna definitely
hook this up. I already got a v sync air fry,

(02:17:17):
so maybe it already hooked up with that app and
I'll be like, I need the air fry less or more.
I don't know. I need protein. Air fry me some
chicken on scale right now. But yeah, thank you very much.
I appreciate you. And uh, you know, I'm sure this
will help on my health, uh endeavors.

Speaker 3 (02:17:36):
Yes, anything to simplify the process.

Speaker 1 (02:17:38):
Yeah, and uh that's it for this this feedback show.
We'll be back throughout the week. We appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:17:45):
Until next time, I love you.

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