3081: Think of Sharon

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Speaker 2 (05:10):
Let's go ahead and get into those people, starting with
our feedback episode three zero seven six, three thousand and
seventy six Vin diagrams. We got three comments on this one.
There was a feedback episode, so you know who the
first person to comment was, Karen.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was Apia from Germany. Wow, how'd you know?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, I stopped worrying about the moderation issue.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
See that was simple.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
There you go, Apia. I'm glad we was able to
do that. Okay, we are just very short. We are
just a very short time in with Trump and already
he created so much chaos. Some of it is for
sure planned. But the tariff issue is a very bad look.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Ain't it.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
If I had a company and had the choice, I
wouldn't invest in the US its scenes as the situation
can turn on a dime. According to the mood of
your new king, his advisors are already turning on each other.
From the outside. It really isn't going great. Yeah, that
was a meaning with China and Elon Musk isn't allowed
to go just like Friday. It's chaos and we knew
it would be chaos. We knew it will be on

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his whims And at the same time, it feels like
the chaos may not be planned, but it is. It
was planned to be chaotic, because I think the real
thing is they're just running the coffers of the United States.
It's a heist that people are mistaken for a bunch
of other shit, and maybe those other things will get

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out of control, maybe that will be the real point.
It doesn't make those issues any less vital that they're having.
So like, even if the point isn't to be a
racist country, it is going to be a racist country,
even if that is just the paper over the fact
that they're just stealing the wealth out of America, fucking
with the tax system, cutting all the federal government stuff, literally,

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demanding media companies give them money to have access stuff
like that. I think it's always gonna be a griff
with Trump and his cronies, but the consequences of it
are real and stuff like the tariffs. It doesn't matter
that they don't make any sense. They could give a
fuck about us and the rest of the economy. It's
never been about that so are to me, it's all

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just malfeasance.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I agree, And like you said, it's always been the
grift from the beginning, and a lot of is in
my personal opinion, boils down to white people.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Not holding white people to accountable.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
To me, that's the foundation of how we got here,
because at any period of time, people of the Congress
Incentate could have.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Voted so he could have never ran again, but they.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Opted not to like like like for people to get
this much power and cost this much chaos, they're always
checks and balances, but somebody drops the ball and give
them the benefit of a doubt because they're white. Anybody
else would have been stopped. Any woman would have been stopped,
anybody else outside of a white man. They would not

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have ever put this much power in their hands for
them to fuck shit up.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
She says.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
We will see how this plays out, but to me
it seems very frantic, hate driven and not really smart. Well,
I think that's a very astute observation from across the pond,
and I think many people are seeing it, and honestly,
it's helping our allies move on without us consolidate trade
agreements in Europe with each other. It'll be ironic if

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this is the thing that brings more unity to Europe
than you know, when we had democratic presidents over here
that were trying to encourage you know, free trade and
trade agreements with everybody, it'll be funny if this is
better for y'all than Brexit and shit, like what everybody's like, whoa.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's crazy, we don't have that luxury shoe.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Budy says, Oh my god, I just realized how I
misheard the original article about the mortician. I thought she
cut off his winger and put it in her mouth
like some bubble yum. This makes much more sense, but
still absolutely fucking nasty.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yuck.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, that's wild that you went there, But also if
she put it in her mouth, would you blow up
the ball sack.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
As the bubble gum? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
There's a lot of questions I have now that I
didn't have before I read your comment that I wish
I never had thought about. But now what am I
supposed to do? Apia says, this would be really much
more upsetting. I get it, food is getting more expensive,
but this can't be the solution snacking on human body parts,
or can it? Or am I too closed minded and
don't get how much times have changed? Get with the times,

(09:40):
Apia later in the week, I'm pro bono trade, So
what's my problem here?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Anyway? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't know, Apia, I think you're on the right
side of not eating people yet.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't think we're people eating yet.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
We haven't got to that point yet.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Maybe, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Let's see what YouTube has to say about this episode.
Then Diagrams episode thirty seventy six.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
We got three.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Comments on the tubes, uh and nas Harold just leavest
five hard emojis. Dion Laedre says, I definitely left the
voicemail this week, so y'all are right. Skype already got
one foot out the door. Last little employees left over
here scrolling indeed or something.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Well, I did see.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
We got one new voicemail this week and it was
left on the twelfth, which means that it was probably
left after we recorded our feedback show that maybe that's yours.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
But if not, then then they quit right there. We'll see.
We'll see if George, when we play voicemails.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
They was like phone calls coming in. We've already we've
already wrapped the shit up.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Just remember deon Ladra and see if that's it's gonna
be you, Hood Mayor n YC says thumbs up, thank you,
Hood Mayor n YC. Assume that's Eric Adams.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Who else could it be?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Wow, we didn't know you listened, and I'm sure you
don't like some of the things we have to say
about you. At least she kept it reil Gevis's thumbs up.
All right, Officer mayor the poe. Do you understand Vin diagrams?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes? No, or somehow? I am both in the yes
and no circles.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Seventy one percent they do understand how ven diagrams work.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I went to school for.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Business administration and stuff, but I had to take statistics
and all this stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
So ven diagram to me, I feel like I learned
them in high school.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
They don't have to get too complicated. But it really
kicks people's ass. It's really hard for people to understand
two groups can have no overlap, and people will be like,
these are the same just the same picture, and it's
just like, man, that is a critical thinking skill that
is really fucking people up, because if you just took

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one more second to think about it, you'd be like,
oh wait, that's probably not the same.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
And of course the picture I'm talking of now is
the all.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
People marching with pussy hats clearly didn't vote for or
Hillary or you know these white women are bad.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
You know, it's like the same group.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I understand feeling.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Resentment about whiteness and white people, but even white women
in many cases because we're talking about percentages of voters.
But if you think them fucking maga women put on
some pink pussy hats because Trump won, that is such
a small part of that group. If at all agreed,
those women could care less about them other white women.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
They don't fuck with pantsuits nations and never did. They might,
they might hang out on social circles, I don't know,
but those those ladies are not getting up to go
march for the women's and the causes.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
They won that day.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
They stay home and sipped on their tea and they
looked out the window and said, ha ha, look at
those bitches marching. That's what they thought. So it's stuff
like that I think really fucks people up. And I
think maybe it's because people get so angry that they
stopped thinking straight and they're just like, I'm angry at
white ladies and it's like, I hear you, but it's
not the same. All the white ladies are the same,

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and it doesn't really serve any purpose to conflate the
two yeh yes, and.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
As somebody who understands that logic but still allowed the
emotions to override the logic because it was one period
of time with fifty three percent, and I would just
go off And now I understood that there were two
separate groups of people, But at the same time, you

(13:28):
can allow logic to go out the window when you're angry.
But like you say, these two groups of people are
not the same. There's a percentage of white women just
as pissed, just as angry, just as mad, just as upset.
Fuck Donald Trump, and a fuck Donald Trump, and you
know for them too, you know, And so to lump

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them all together is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, And I'm just striving for accuracy. It's not the
defense of any group or anything. It's just like, you
just need to be accurate when we're talking that shit.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's all. It helps. Diagrams go a long way.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
But it but it kicks people's ass. That's just one example.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
But I've seen so.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Many different examples of stuff where it's like you're yelling
at the wrong people. Another perfect example for me, when
Barack Obama's talking to the black men who showed up
for Kamala Harris about black men not being enthusiastic for
Kamala Harris. That that van doc. That's two different circles. Yes,
all the circle is black men. The ones you're talking

(14:26):
to are one percent not those black.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Men, right, They're probably not even in the room.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Doesn't even make sense to talk to them like that, right, Like,
like if you're giving a speech and it's just I'm
giving a speech to all black men, I understand. But
the odds of them coming to a Barack Obama speech
that is campaigning for Kamala Harris and also being like
I ain't voting for Kamala Harris is extremely low.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
There's no need to scold those they.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Are not coming in the room.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, So it's just it's stuff like that, It really be.
It doesn't matter how smart you are, because I think
it's an emotion thing. It's just when I am upset,
it becomes a problem for all y'all, and not just
a problem of some of y'all that happen to be
part of the all.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Of y'all, and not timey funny and not to get
off topic and not to get too deep. A lot
of this place into the gender wars and it be
kicking people's ass.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Gender wars is a big is a big thing of
this too. I uh yeah, I you know, we see
it all the time. We don't really talk about we
don't do a lot of gender wars content on here
in that way we we engage with it seriously. But yeah,
I see it all the time where it's just like, uh,
there are men like this, there are women like this.

(15:34):
It is obviously not all these women. Is not all
these men, And when what you're describing is it the same?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Another you know, a big one for me is like
interracial dating. People really throw people, especially in black white
relationships under the bus.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I mean men and women.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, I know, whatever a group you're in right now,
you're just thinking about your group. I'm just saying as
a as a hopefully unbiased observer, I see it really
flow in ways that I think is very irresponsible, where
like they find out a woman who works on ESPN
and covers the NBA is dating a white man, and
then I'll see brothers that talk so much shit about

(16:12):
this woman and assume she's biased and do a bunch
of this harassment.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's very it's very disturbing to see.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
That they've never shown.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And at the same time, you find out that the
guy who played Lawrence on Insecure is dating a white
woman or married to a white woman, and I'll see
the comments on his page from sisters going in on him. Now,
obviously these are not all black people that like, every
black person is not mad at this interracial coupling. Every
black person is not accusing them. But the point being

(16:42):
is what people will often do. This is what ven
diagrams kick everybody's ass. What people often do is go, well,
there are some black men who date white women who
hate black women, right, there are some black women who
date white men who hate black men. So therefore, every
time I say, see one of these black people with
a white person, no matter who they are, whether they

(17:04):
fit in that circle or not, I'm going to assume
they're in that circle. And I just find that to
be so unhelpful and so dishonest, ridiculous. And also, as
you said, this is a very gender warst thing because
no one really assumes that of the group they're in.
Meaning if a black woman is talking and she sees
Quent de Brunson has a white husband, She's normally not

(17:26):
gonna assume that quent de Brynson hates black men and
black people, right, But if that same black woman, not all,
but some some of those same black women will see
like Lawrence from Insecure and be like, well, he clearly
hates black women, and vice versa. I've seen black men,
some of them have white wives. They would never talk
say these athletes I'm looking that must hate black women,

(17:48):
despite any evidence, sometimes to the extreme where the guy
has given you a reason to think that, right, But
they'll be like, no, no, no, the black man is fine.
But then they see a black woman with a white man,
it's like, oh, now see she must hate black men.
It's very weird. I don't know if it's a holdover
from slavery. I don't know if it's just whiteremy. I
don't know if it's.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
But that's a great example of Van diagrams kicking everybody's
ass because the overlapping is there, the overlap exists, but it's.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Not a complete circle.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So anyway, so the other answer is no, of course,
six percent of y'all say, seventy one percent say you
do understand Van diagram. Six percent of y'all say you
don't shout out to your honesty. I'll appreciate y'all. And
then twenty three percent says, somehow I'm both in the
yes and no circles, and I'm gonna say, y'all don't
understand Van diagrams. This is a trick question I tricked, y'all. Okay,

(18:43):
it was supposed to be one of the other. If
you somehow in both circles that you do understand and
you don't understand, then you don't understand on this because
other Van diagrams you could have been in both. Someone
in this one there was a trick.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's so of they overlapping. You go, yeah, I understand
you being in birth circle.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, y'all go into the don't understand power and that's fine.
Or maybe it's trying to be funny, you son of
a bitch with my perfect man. All right, let's get
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Speaker 1 (19:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
All right, let's get to the next episode, Episode thirty
seventy seven, doppel Gangers we got nine comments on this one.
I had something to say, appendly y'all did. I just says,
I agree with everything you say about politics. It's almost
weird how much we agree. I choose to think that's
the smart person connection. Let's go with that, abya, Okay,

(20:13):
I feel like we're both pretty smart. We come from
different parts of the world, but doesn't mean we can't connect,
you know, politically. And you know, I don't know how
many people like I don't say stuff in here expecting
everybody to agree. I think politics is weird, and I
think the vast majority of people have their piccadillos with

(20:33):
you know, different individual points of view. But I try
to be reasonable. I try to take people should into account,
and I try to be pragmatic with stuff and not
get too caught up in the hype and the emotion
and while understanding that other people do.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
And that's kind of part of the game.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
But you know, I appreciate y'all that let me know, like, hey,
I vibe with what you're saying because I don't think
what I'm saying is necessarily controversial. But I do find
that I don't see my type of point of view
reiterated very much in mainstream media or even on social media.
I feel like social media rewards a certain type of

(21:13):
thinking and impulse that is bombastic but not necessarily pragmatic
or realistic, and I find it to be very discouraging
to share opinions on there that are anything less than
almost extreme, and you could say extremely either side, but

(21:34):
obviously on my side it would be the left. I'm
not going to ever be extreme to the right, so
I just don't. I normally just don't share those things.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But I feel vindicated most of the time.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I really do, and you know, I don't have any
less respect for those who get caught up in the
emotion of it necessarily, but very rarely do people come
back and go, I see what you were saying. And
I know people get heated sometimes when they hear someone
go against common popular think on social media. You know,
like when I was like, yeah, defund the police is

(22:05):
not it probably is not going to be a good slogans.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm not a coon.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
You can call me that go to but you know
I'm not, and you know I'm not against the idea
of defunding police departments. So so now you just mad
at me. Because I won't go along with the grain,
but I'm not required to. And if I just think
a different strategy might work, I don't know why I
would be the enemy for this. And when it doesn't work,
no one ever comes back and goes, shit, you was right.

(22:31):
Nobody would vote for that shit, or we voted for it,
But then the will power to do it became low
because police were able to weaponize this shit and get
motherfuckers on their side were like mine, more around and
all this bullshit, and now none of those policies passed,
you know, so anyway, and that's just one example.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
It is not you know, obviously, it's not a one.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm never really happy to be right about that kind
of shit because I'm I.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
It's just a strategy thing for me.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, And a lot of time, particularly on social media,
everybody yalla, y'alla, y'alla past that, yeah, and they act
like they never said, They act like it didn't exist.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
People start, you know, just move on.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
To the next thing you're outraged about, like it's not
they're not. No one's gonna come back and do an
autopsy of like why this didn't work?

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Right?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
But but to be told, that's the only way you
don't get growth.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
But they don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Now it's not I mean, it won't be rewarded on
social media. I think it happens in real life. I
think that's why our podcast doesn't get This is why
people think our podcast, the ones that like it, this
is why they think it's dope. It's like, oh no,
y'all said it in a real way, in a plain way,
in a way that I'm not hearing other places, in
a way that resonates with me offline, like it might
not resonate with me on my social media, Like I'm

(23:44):
one hundred percent sure we're maybe in i'd say one
percent of podcasts that will come on here and be
like I'll defend Democrats, sure will, Like I don't like.
And it's mostly because I don't do a lot of
like discussion with other people about it, because my mind's

(24:05):
made up and I'm pragmatic, and I don't really want
a pat on the back for everyone being like, you
ain't the Democrat plantation. There's nothing you can do to
trick me into being anti Democrats in America simply until
we get some better option. I just don't even see
a fucking point, right, agreed. It's pragmatism, right, yes, And

(24:27):
so I appreciate that we have a place like here.
We can say that because if we technically, if we
or slash I wanted to be more popular, I could
easily flip a switch switching to the I'm so progressive,
I hate the Democrats tulane and look, ultimately, that probably
would have done our podcast better. It would have done
my follower account on social media better. I could be somebody,

(24:51):
you know, quote unquote, maybe I'm on MSNBC saying the
same shit I see it for all the people that
go on seeing inn and stuff. If you supposed to
be to the left, quote unquote, you have to bash
those Democrats.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
It is.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
The crowd pleaser. It is the thing that gets you
the bigger bubbles.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Everyone loves to see it, everyone loves to say how
they don't fuck with them. And so it's probably cost
us more than it's gained us. But just sleeping at night,
nothing will ever make me sleep at night happier than
being like, nah, they're doing their best. If we want
to progress in this country, we need more. I don't
give a fuck about it being not that popular thing,

(25:32):
or being in the gray area of like not popular
but kind of popular, the kind of content that people
that listeners aren't gonna share because they don't want to
fight with their friends on social media with like hey,
this take that Rod had about the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
No one want to share that shit.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Like I know, because if I would have came on
here and said, actually, Democrats ain't shit. What we need
to do is this and this, everybody would have shared
it because like, look at this rang, this man decided
what's wrong. So anyway, all that stuff to say, it
matters to me when someone right saying and says like yo,
we agree, or the things y'all are saying I'm not
hearing other places, or I you know, y'all really make

(26:05):
me think about things politically. I actually appreciate that shit
because I don't as a person that listens to a
lot of podcasts and in the past is listening to
people talk about podcasts and communis and stuff. I don't
find what I'm saying to be reiterated pretty much anywhere else.
And I'm not using that as a litmus test of
like I'm the smartest person or the bravest person, but

(26:27):
just I feel like I'm the reallest person about that
kind of shit. I feel like we're real about those
issues and a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Are just trying to get bigger bubbles.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
And also the thing about it, we're authentic to ourselves,
and I really do think where we are in the
country and like that makes a big difference in how
we feel the way we feel, and why we're so
strong and why not telling me funny, I don't be
wanting to hear bullshit because you know, we've lived and

(26:56):
experienced things that other parts of the country are getting
ready to.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Live in experience kind of for the first time.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
So other parts of the country are getting ready to
get the shock of their lives once rules start rolling out.
Shit today only thought happened in the South because some
people in other parts of the country they have biases
against the South. They even if they're willing to admit
it or not. There's certain positive countries just when you
hear them talk like, oh, you're talking from a place
of privilege, Like I can automatically tell that you haven't

(27:23):
had to really struggle and really fight for certain things.
You just the voting cycle comes and everything just flows,
is what's gonna happen when it's resistance for the first time,
real resistance, and all of a sudden it starts turning
redder and redder and redder and redder around you.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
You know, do you have.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
It within you to say I'm going to continue to
fight or are you going to fold just like you
tell the other place to do? Are you gonna pack
your shit up and move like you tell other positive
country when shit don't go their way?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
And one of the things I keep thinking about how
is not I'm from us, being from North Carolina. Nothing
has ever improved in my life from by having less Democrats.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Right ever, I'm.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Forty seven, I'm about to be forty seven. That's almost
fifty years on this earth.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Zero things.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Republicans have never done a thing that made me be
like yo, thank god Republicans were empowered to do that.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I've only lost rights. I've only had challenges to my voting.
I've only had taxes go up, like. I've never had
a thing where I can look back and say so, No,
I won't be fooled into this like weird partial the
performative objectivity where I have to sit between you bi
parties to be like, what neither is good enough? One

(28:43):
of them has been much better than the other. Give
me another option and we can talk. Also, just real quick,
are you frozen.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
On my screen? On your screen or anything?

Speaker 5 (28:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
No, okay, it's a chat room. Is Karen frozen? It
could just be my computer. I may need to refresh.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I don't know, And I just only want to do
this just in case the recording later it's gonna look
frozen or something. Okay, so I'm gonna be right back.
Everybody say both of us and she's not frozen. Okay,
Well maybe I should keep going.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
You can refresh this.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Okay, give me one second, everybody, Sorry, sorry about this. Yeah,
just going to be sure to record and it's correct. Yeah,
I don't know what could have happened. Oh my goodness,
I'm joining the stage again.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Hopefully I won't pop up twice. All right, there we go.
But yeah, it's just very obvious. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
And also it is one of one of those things where,
like you say, our opinion is the very few. I think,
like I said, I think the biggest reason, like I said,
is because of where we live. And also I think
it's because we don't take we understand things and out
of luxury.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
And we've had rights taken and we have to fight
for him every time we vote, and we don't always win,
and a lot of times it's because a lot of
the white people in our in our state don't want
us to win. They're not going to stop voting, they're
not going to take a day off and all this shit.
And so when people tell us that vote there's no
point to it, it's a lie for us, because we've

(30:11):
seen there be a point to it. Yes, we've seen
them win because they make us not be able to vote.
So like, yeah, anyway, I didn't want to turn to
all tangent, but like, yeah, it does my heart good
when y'all we can never get enough of, Like hey,
y'all are spitting facts.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Y'all are talking the truth right, and like you say
I and the thing is just because you say I'm
a Democrat, it's like this, I feel like it's almost
how I used to feel about feminism. That's how people
feel about democrats. It's like they feel like if they
pick up the title, they have to pick up everything
that goes along with it. And a lot of people

(30:47):
don't want to be associated with everything that goes along
with it. They kind of want to pick and choose. Yeah,
kind of what they want, but the thing is off
the side. You either in it or you're not, like
like like there's some things you can't be in between.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
On the thing for me that I always think about
is I think it's a trick of white supremacy. I
know people will disagree, but I think it's a trick
of white supremacy to make us all think we need
to be individuals and identify as individualists about this. I'm
not an individualist when it comes to my politics. Politics
are the party are about parties. Parties are about creating
coalitions with people. I'm a Democrat because I believe in

(31:21):
the coalitions that I've been created over there.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's not about perfection. That would be ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Even if I had a party that I got to
decide every platform and every group that got to be
in it, there would be people in the group that
would be like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Only here for my thing. That's okay, that's what politics
is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
So just holding up this litmus test of perfection for
Democrats with nothing but a low bar for Republicans, it's crazy.
To me, yes, sir, and so I want to acknowledge
that playing field as being fair. So I am a Democrat.
I will always vote Democrat unless the party's flip sides
like they did back.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
During the day. It just doesn't seem that difficult to me.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And I don't get any pats on the back of
accolades or ego from being I'm so different than the
rest of you sheep, but I'm not. I'm a sheep
and we're in the land of wolves, and I'm gonna
vote sheep the sheep way to keep the wolves from
fucking eating us all.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
That's has to go.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
And also, I think for me, it's one of those
things where I'm very simplistic with it. One side wants
me to die, not exist, and the other side is
doing what they can to protect me. And for me,
it's just that simple. I don't really get into the
new one, like nobody gets a fuck about that the
other side. Their whole objective is that I do not exist.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
The choice is not hard in this case.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Nuance is a luxury, and it's not a luxury we
can afford right now. It hasn't been a luxury we
can afford in a long time, to be honest. But
what happens is anytime the Democrats run, we end up
looking at the menu and wanting to make a bunch
of switches and options and shit that we can't. And
then when you lose, it's like, damn, I guess we
all gotta eat gruel.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And that's what we're eating right now.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
So anyway, I appreciate you saying that opia for Democrats
hard to see our racis unfair, the country is, and
how to deal with it. Should they try to be
more like the abusive data Republicans and have more success,
But there's already the original abusive dad. Yeah, and you can't.
So that's the math that I look at. You can't
out Republican Republicans in America, and a lot of Democrat advisors,

(33:25):
people who are unhappy with the Democrats, people that are
just constantly critical of the Democrats. They have created a
false thing in their minds where you can at once
have the Joe Rogans of Democrats and court the white
swing voter, court the white racist voter, and at the
same time keep all the black and brown women, minorities.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
LGBTQ people over here as well.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
And then that coalition will add up to be enough
to beat what Republicans do, and it's like, we should
offer these people something. It's what I see with Bernie Sanders,
where it's like, we need to find these angry white,
middle of American voters who are dissatisfied with the country
and we need to get them on board the Democrats.
And yet when you ask him how he's gonna do that,

(34:11):
he can't truly answer you because he goes, well, I'm
just not gonna talk about race anymore. Right, I'm just
not gonna talk about gender. I'm not gonna talk about
trans people, are not gonna talk about LGBTQ issues. I'm
not gonna talk about women in abortion. Really, I'm gonna
just if we just don't talk about those things and
we only just talk about how economically unfair the country is,

(34:31):
those angry white people will come vote for Democrats.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And then there's two things to that.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
The first is, obviously, as a black person who's gonna
vote Democrats, I now am not hearing about my issues
at all, and it makes me, it makes most people distrusting.
We're like, so, as a woman, are you really gonna.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Stand up for me?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Because it sounds like every time my issues come up,
you call it identity politics and run away. Okay, that's
the first part. But the second part is this, and
this is the more important part, because the first one
people can get over. The second one can't be gotten over,
which is these angry white folks aren't really mad about
the economy.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
They might be deep down in their souls.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Mad about the economy, but that's not how it is
manifesting in these people. And when it is manifesting in
grievance at women, at LGBTQ people, at black people, at
brown people, at immigrants, when it is manifesting in those ways,
Bernie Sanders doesn't have the answer, because you would need

(35:33):
those people to be honest with themselves and say, yeah,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Really about my union job.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I don't like those people, and I see them getting
things from the government, and I'd rather no one get
anything nobody.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
These are the same people where they said, we have
a pool in our neighborhood. The government said, hey, you
need to integrate that pool. Black people that live in
your neighborhood should be allowed to swim in your same pool.
And then they drained the pool so no one gets
to swim because I don't want to swim with them
black people.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's facts, that's real. You can look it.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Up politics of resentment. This is not This is not
some shit I'm making up out of the abstract.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
And what happens is America never reckons with those people
and what they really want. What happens is we come
back to the neighborhood and we say, this pool is
empty and no one's swimming. It must be because the economy,
and that's why those things won't work. So I do
worry that Democrats.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Will be.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Food or positioned or pushed prompted into hey, how do
we out Republican Republicans about stuff like race?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
And I just think it's stupid. You can't. You're never
going to provide. You can't.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
You can't not talk about trans people enough to make
a transfoe vote for you, So you just have to stop.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I think they should. I don't even think that's an option.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
I agreed.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
And not only that, you know, all the things going
with the education system. They should have whole school system
down because they was like, we will not integrate, nobody's
going to get educated. So that goes to show you
that that when it comes to it, it isn't about
the economy or anything like that. It's that they don't
want the others around them.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Our next comment, mature young lady Erica says, I'm constantly
told that I look like somebody folks know. Is plus
sized black lady a universal look or caricature. I'm starting
to think so, I don't know, maybe you just got
one of them faces. I don't know, maybe that's everybody
think that I don't uh. Radja says five stars for
this episode.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Damnit ten walls, damn, damn, damn. America is the ghetto.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Sean says, I've never met my doppel ganger, but a
friend of mine changed jobs of her work. Bate was
her spitting themage, No relation, just nearly I did. They
even had the same gait. It was slightly eerie. Also,
I remember Natalie Portman telling the story of her mother
mistaking care of Knightley.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
For her on the set of Star Wars episode one.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, I wonder how often I Also the other question
is I wonder if the person would agree that this
other person's at doppelganger, because I think that happens a
lot too when someone thinks somebody look like somebody, but
if you ask that person, they'd be like, I don't
look like them. I don't know why you said that, right,
but mil seventy three says, I have an entry for
your gender words. Segments about a podcasting couple whose names

(38:34):
are let's say, Scrodemorrow and Screaringmorrow. Scrod made the perfect,
perfect puny comment saying that Bill Maher was changing in
real time in front of our faces, and Scraing just
Cuban b the pun and kept talking. She kept talking
and made coach with logical points, as if the reason
is an appropriate response for a perfect pun. Now, fellas

(38:54):
you know as well as I do, these women should
be loving on us because men.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Eat steak and women eat salad.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
And a man makes a pun, it's only right for
the woman to achnowledge it in my right, fellas a.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Meal, Thanks for that hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Thanks for acknowledging my joke. But uh, you know turn
about as fair pro Hey, I can't. I can't say
anything bad about Karen. I've missed so many of her
jokes reading stuff.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Cause you concentrating, you go back and hear and replace.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's good for the gools good for the gander, but
somebody out there listeners always picking it up. So I'm
just glad you picked up that joke. I thought it
was I thought I was so clever and funny at
the time. So Michael says, a girl in my fifth
eighth grade class and I look like twins. We weren't
related at all. The teacher got us confused all year.
Luckily she was cool and we were friends. I don't
have siblings, so it's nice to have a quote unquote

(39:43):
twin for a while.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I remember once when I was in high school for
a little bit before I went back to junior high school.
Long story, but there was a semester where I took
like an English or yeah, I think it was English
clas or something, and the two dudes in front of
me were both named Robert and they went by Bob instead.

(40:08):
It was like, I have I'm Robert such and such,
and I go by Bob. You know, it's that when
they're doing the role, like what's your name? What do
you prefers to call you? And then the next guy
was like, I'm Robert such and such and I go
by Bob, and so I was after him. I was like,
I'm Roderick such and such. I go by Bob, and
everybody just started laughing. I thought it was so funny.
I thought it was funny. It was I took a
chance and made a funny joke. And then the rest

(40:29):
of the semester they really thought my name was Bob.
I got called Bob in that class to the day
I left, and I was like, oh, maybe I made
some tactical mistake, a strategic mistake. I am only Bob
in this room and no one else for one hour
a day, and then every other place I'm not Bob.
So aj Martin says, I have been told that I
look like Sterling K.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Brown.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Keep in mind on light skinned to have hazel eyes.
So how someone thinks I resemble Sterling K. Brown is hilarious. Yeah,
see that, that's what I'm saying. How many people would agree,
you know? Ce Jeter says, Man, it's so frustrating we
have to call the white feelings all the time, shaking
my head.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Damn, Tim, you really are regular white dude.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Huh, You're slid on back to whiteness as soon as
it got uncomfortable. Look, I'm down for all the protests
springing up now. We told them you do it, and
they are trying. I can't hate on that, but what
are we going to do with the ones like Tim
that just slide on back the whiteness When it gets uncomfortable,
it will and it will get uncomfortable. Nah, my boy,
you gots to see it through. Check that man in
the mirror that Mike was talking about. Well, you know what,

(41:27):
it is everything right now, And this is something I
don't think anyone's noticed yet what we are seeing right
now in the liberal slash democratic slash progressive response to Trump.
And once again I don't think people have noticed. We're
actually seeing very fractured responses and no one's really talking about.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
It in that way.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Everyone's talking about it like it is a progressive response
or just a American response to the tyranny of Trump,
and it's not.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
None of the groups right now actually have the numbers.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
It doesn't matter how big a rally gets for Senders
and alc. If the rally still look monochromatic, that's not
the Democratic Party. No, it doesn't matter if if it's
you know, social media, if it's you know, if it's
just black people doing this, that are the Democrats have
to bring a coalition of people together in mass And

(42:27):
it's not just Middle America, it's not just white cities,
not just Republican districts. You know, I like what AOC
and Bernie are doing, going to talking into Republican districts
to be like, your congress people won't even come talk
to you, but we will. I think that's really dope,
and that's a very great rhetorical like thing. But those
are probably not district Democrats can or will win, even
with those Republicans being pieces of shit that won't come

(42:48):
can face they won't face their constituents. It's a good
it's a good touchdown, Dan, it's a good slam. But
if we don't actually swing those districts, if they're not
gonna run candidates in those districts that can beat those
incumbent Reportsublicans, then it will have been a waste of time.
And those voters that are coming out need to be swayed.
They cannot come out see AOC and Bernie go back

(43:09):
home and be like, but I'm still gonna vote for
my Republican congress person right or else it.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Will have failed.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
That That doesn't mean they're failing It doesn't mean what
they're doing is a worthwhile. It just means right now,
that's a fractured response. That's not just Democrats coming out.
Those are Republicans coming out, or Republican districts full of
white people coming out, and you're hoping that they might
change some minds. I'd love to see them change the minds.
I hope we do keep this momentum. We have a

(43:35):
very long time to go till it's time to vote
for those in those districts. But my point being a
lot of response. You know, the march people, those those
marches are very monochromatic. Those marshas are very a certain
type of person that's already in the party and stuff.
But we're not seeing a coalition yet, and I don't
know that anyone can gather coalition yet. And even your

(43:57):
political class punnits on CNN, your you know, your people
like Tim Walls, they're just.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Speaking for a very specific thing.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
If Tim Walls can't go out and bring black women
and black people and brown people to the forefront as supporters,
he has zero chance of winning the Democratic anything. He
has zero answers. If that's the case, and no one
has to prove it right now, because right now you
can just throw red meat to the people you agree with,

(44:25):
and then the people that within the party that disagree
with you will just go on TV and be like,
well I would have did it different. Don't matter right now.
It's only gonna matter when it's time to vote. Hate
to be that pragmatic. I'm not shitting on anybody's enthusiasm.
I'm glad people are rowed up or whatever. But if
the shit don't last to two Novembers from now, it
won't matter. And if it's not a coalition that brings

(44:49):
everyone together, it definitely won't matter for president.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
So we'll see.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yep, we will see.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
But on the subject of doppelgang, because I agree, God
only made so many and he's up there mixing and
matching like a coke remix machine in a burger camp. Also,
I'm gonna need you to look up the recent picture
of former Soul Food Child actor Brandon Hammond. Either that's
your dopple ganger or you got some explaining the dude
past the rod lo ol.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Hamming.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
All right, I'll look up some pictures of him. I see,
if that's my doppleganger, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
See this is the thing. Am I gonna agree with this?

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I'm let me see. Oh that's must be him when
he was a kid. This him now, I mean we favorable.
I don't feel dopple ganged up. Maybe he needs some
glasses or something to make me feel fully dopple ganged.
But similar features. Yeah, we got I think our beerd
kind of grow the same. I've been trimming mine down lately, but.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I can see it, you know what, not bad, not bad.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I wouldn't say the same, like we could be cousins
or some shit. You know, I'm not offended by You're
not off that much.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Because because somebody, and maybe this is just me being
somewhat by somebody that looked like a splitting image of
you older with your uncle Alan, your uncle, your uncle
Alan looks like he literally like my whole life. I
kept saying, you like an older virgin to Roderick, like
my whole life.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
He literally looked just like you.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, definitely rest in peace, my uncle Alan. But yeah,
I always got that. I remember people being like that
show Daddy.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I'm like, no, it's my uncle yea all the time. Yeah,
we definitely look alike. I thought eve.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
He says, I must have a dopper ganger out there somewhere,
because I'm constantly told I look like someone, mostly by
white people.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Then again, don't we all look like the most of them? Yeah,
don't count white people.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
But whoever my doppel ganger is, I hope she's rich
because if we ever met, I can get close to
her and rob her.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Wow. Just still, our identity got a robber put that
kind of trauma on somebody.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Let's check the poll, I mean, let's check the YouTube comments,
eleven comments.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Wow, all right, let's see.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Shmika says Mark at then at the hour one hour
eleven thirty Mark, when I tell you I felt every
bit of that as a woman. auDA's the a tene
to pretend like VP said anything other than the truth.
Even in Jess, although she didn't really say the words,
I felt her spirit in that speech. Yeah, that I
told you so. She said, excuse my man as hello family, Hey,

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and nas left five heartbeat five heart emojis. Libra Bona says,
love the keV on stage studio shout out. It's been
an inspiration to follow his trajectory. Would love to see
a crossover with the Blackout Tips. Karina says, hi, keV
has been on the podcast before. keV shared the live
on his Patreon. I'm a Blackout Tips Premium member and
a member of Kev's Patreon. The chat that day was

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lit with stage true the you know the good time
was had by all. She replied back, thank you, all
will go back and find it. I'm remember the stage crew.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
And Karina says, yay cool.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
It's episode twenty five to fifty two, the Holy Ghost
runs the light.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Thank you. I was just about to bring you say
that's time.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, we had to get him back on. He's always fun.
But every time he comes back on the chat room,
I already know who.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
You fill up the chat. They fill up the chat room.
They send us a bill real talk, like if you
go over a certain amount on crowdcast, they have.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
To sing you like a bill to be like, yo,
you had more people than you normally be having it here.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Max you don't max yo your capacity out?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Okay you They rove deep his cup be running over it,
running over job says at one O seven thirty six's
great and truthful comments about Tim Wallace the election. White
people want Trump, Democrats and Kamala Harris.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
I agree with.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Everything you said. Thank you, buddy. J forsus Karen was
really spitting during the politics segment. I agreed.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Ramsey says, I cannot wait for the kelv on stage
and the blackout Tip to link up again. You know what,
I'll reach out. Okay, that man is blowing up. He's
very busy.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
In my mind I always assume like when people due that,
I'm like, they're gonna be too busy for us. Okay,
they don't want to hang with o Eddie Kane. But
that's not true. That's my own head talking. The people
like us, They like coming on here.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
We always have a good time when he comes on too.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, and I and ship.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Now he got a lot more to talk about because
last time we was on here, Like I don't even
think Churchie has started. Yeah, so you know we always
follow his journey from Afar Like, yo, look at this man,
he's really doing.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
It, uh, Jasper said.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Jason says, Yeah, I actually feel bad for anyone with
an issue with Kevi on stage.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
This is that is just a character flaw.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
I think as John Morant gets older, celebrations can be moving.
A white collar crime he can pretend to make a
phone call. Jared Jackson can pretend to be on the computer.
They could pull out cash from the socks.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
It'll be the.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Inside of Trader celebration. See that's what I'm saying, Jason,
you on the team. We were thinking of you in
the writer's room. I need to I need to workshop
some things to to John Morant man.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
He thinking too small with these guns.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Get creative, Yeah, shorter stock, bigger way to illustrate that.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
On the sideline.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I want someone to study Bill Maher and Steve Kurve.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Somehow the existed of Trump calls liberal Bill to lose
his mind, to cause conservative Steve to speak out the DNC.
The white man is a complicated man. I didn't even
know Steve. I didn't know Steve Kerr was conservative.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I thought his dad was like.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
A Democrat diplomat or some shit. I forget this whole story,
but yeah, I never even knew he was conservative. People
who are saying Kamalo was wrong for saying I told
you so are off. I've said, oh, you know what
you just made me think about with Bill mar though,
and I've been thinking this for literally months.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I just haven't brought it up on the show Anywhere. Man.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You know who really gotta be salty about this shit?
Dennis Miller. Fuck happened to that dude?

Speaker 5 (50:45):
He fell off the face.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
He was the first one.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
He would the first like kind of very liberal progressive
white man to completely ape out and go motherfucking like
Maga and Republicans and Bill mar Bill Martin followed in
his foot steps a sentially. I remember Bill Maher used
to like kind of like low Ki, you know, clown
that man like he used to bring him because he's
come on sew at the time, and he bring him

(51:09):
back and it was almost like, damn, man, he really
fell off look at you. And now it's like Bill
mar could not wait to suck that Trump. Di can
be writing his full steps.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
He owed some type of copyright or something, Dennis Miller.
That man walked so that Bill Martin's people could run right.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
He was much smarter than Joe Rogan. And now it
never made sense to me.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Why he would want to be a Repulgan just because
his references were so fucking like you needed to have
a master's degree to follow his fucking jokes. So I
was like, that's not gonna do well on the MAGA side,
but maybe he got tired of writing them type of jokes.
He's like, maybe he's changed his style and now he's
over there making references that aren't that complicated, because before

(51:53):
he used to be like, uh, that's like the King
tut passing the gravy to Sherman Helms and you're like, wo,
who the fuck is gonna what I have to have?
I have to know three different books to know why
that's money.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
But now I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, but now he's over there probably just like that's
like Ernest goes to camp sleeping with him a deal
Halloween boo, and he was.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Like, that's not that colopyplated or funny.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
No, it's not.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
But I get the references.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Cheech chein money just coming in. Yes, what is he
doing now? Is he rich? Why is he not there?
Going back?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I don't know anyway, he says, uh uh. People who
are saying Kamlo was wrong for saying I told you
so off I've said, I've said if I'm in the
DNC right now, I'm running nothing, but I told you
so as they would just be Kama saying something in
current footage of it being true. The Dems have zero
power right now. All they can do is make clear

(52:48):
whose fault is all of this is. I'm not saying
it won't make people mad, but it will make the
Trump voters and couch voters look at themselves for at
least a moment.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yeah, they would be mad at me too, because that's
the thing. Every time Trump passed some money, these fucked
up rules of fucked up laws, I would go back
and cut and chop and chopp and screw her and
Hillary Clinton over and over again.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Like the will literally be all my commercials.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Like it's like, we have to make a point because
people are stupid, so we have to make a point.
He said this, Okay, she said this, Then he's doing this. Oh,
I mean, just to make the correlation together so that
people will use some form of thinking, because right now,
you know, whish they gonna make shit up and not

(53:31):
believe it if they don't want you anyway.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
But you're gonna have a subsection of people that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Be like, oh okay, because they're too stupid the pieces
together on their own.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, nah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
All right, let's go to the next episode. Thirty seventy
eight de Ei Another Day. We had seven comments on
this one.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Oh wait, did I do the Paul? I don't think
I did the Paul? Uh the Paul.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
For doppelgangers, have you ever met your doppelganger who wasn't
related to you? Eight percent have, ninety two percent have not.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Who are they? He stoppage?

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I guess someone, all right.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Keith Keva says on episode thirty seventy eight d I
Another Day. I'm so ashamed that I've been to Target
twice in the last eight weeks. My excuse is that
I'm on a site that refunds the full costs of
certain products, but they specify that you have to get
them at a certain store, and in this case, it was Target.
I don't know why you would confess that to us,
But give some money to a black owned business and

(54:25):
we'll call it even. Kevin, there you go, all right,
Brooklyn Shoeba says high Riding Karen, I know your favorite
hardcore it's your favorite hardcore BTS fan here.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
BTS has had.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Some cringey cultural appropriation moments, but Trayvon Martin tribute with
blackface was not done by a member of BTS. G
Dragon is a member of the second GM K pop
group Big Bang. Here's a link to the story. Thanks
Brooklyn shoe Bag. You gotta clear it, clear it up.
Sean says, I was a little shock when I heard
Black Pink come up. Then I heard Lisa and thought, wait,

(54:58):
isn't she the tie one? I bet she was just
wearing palm tied braids again, And it looks like I
was right. It seems like whenever she pulls out the
braids or uses Dasi dance moves that influenced her growing up,
she is going to get called out. Just wondering when
Rose will pull out her Maori Hakka moves something that
the Stray Kids got called out for. Although the feedback

(55:20):
was mainly positive, K pop is interesting in that it
draws from a lot of different cultures, but that also
means they will still will sometimes be called out for
appropriation rather than appreciation.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Don't know what you do with that, because it's much
bigger than just a group or a single act or thing,
And it's really more about the environment that's created in
and who gets rewarded and praised for these things and
who gets looked down upon for these things, which is
completely out of a group's control, whether they apologize for

(55:51):
it or not, whether they intended for it or not.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's so much bigger than them.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
So if they just were wearing because that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
It wasn't just the braid, Sean.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
We saw the pictures, and that means you were looking
at this, you probably saw them too. It's grills, it's chained,
it's clothing from the nineties. So it's not just like, oh,
this was just her braids and it's about her being tied. No,
and the music they're singing is black music, like that
is African American inspired music that they are doing. It's throwbacks,

(56:26):
which is all I think a lot of people our
age would otherwise inappropriately like this music.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Meaning like a fifty.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Year old liking a pop group of twenty year olds
that are making R and B in twenty twenty four
seems weird unless you look at it as I grew
up on this, and no one in America's making this
music anymore.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
Right, It's like the whole genre music just don't exist, right.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
But that means these people who are inspired by in
copying black people, whether they appreciate us or not, right,
that is an American export and African American export that
they've been inspired by, and it's making us cling to
them because.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
We're like, oh, I remember these vibes.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
So all that being said, we're gonna always run into
these appropriation versus appreciation discussions about it. I think people
defend the groups and the people they are fans of.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
The ones they don't are, of course all pieces of
shit to them.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And I'm just kind of more in this area of like,
it's bigger than these people. And a lot of times
I don't think we are fair about how culture works,
meaning there's very little that can be done to keep
culture within its walls because it's messy.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
It is.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It's messy through relationships, is mentally through exchange, its messy
through capitalism and commerce. It's not the neat boxes that
everyone wants to check off. And I think it's something
almost every single human being participants in but does not
acknowledge because when they do it, we feel like it's appreciation.
And when we do it, I mean we feel like

(58:01):
it's appreciation, but when they do it, we feel like
it's different. Yes, And I don't know how you get
over that hurdle. Because some people have actually put in
the work to try to do all the check out
the box and do the right thing, and people still
don't trust.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
And actually show their respect to the culture, and.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
People still go with fuck you, you've been like, Okay,
now it comes a point where this is too much.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
One of my favorites is actually Eminem, because Eminem's entire
career is built off of him acknowledging that privilege and
placing it firmly on white people, racism and white supremacy
and actually going I don't want.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
This, like what like there are better rappers than me.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
There are you know, uh, there are people y'all are
afraid to listen to cause they're black. I'm saying things
that are actually more shocking to white supremacy than they
are and y'all and yet y'all will hold me up
because y'all you see is blond hair and blue eyes,
and you think I'm safe for your kids to listen
to tell your kids that y'all vote like Republicans and
y'all ain't shit, and y'all like he just shits on

(58:55):
white America his whole career. And there's so many people
that all they say is blind hair and blue eyes
on either way, and they either like them because of
it or they hate them because of it, and they
don't even understand why because they've not stopped to think
about the individual. It's more about the larger tapestry of
cultural appropriation. Shoe Boody says, I have not shopped at Target.

(59:17):
They bent the knee and they rubbed me wrong way
the wrong way, and organization don't stop here for eight weeks,
will will go longer than that for me. Oh and
organized don't shop here for eight weeks ago longer than
that for me, as it made me analyze my shopping
habits on the whole.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
It's actually gotten me to buy a lot.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
More secondhand on sites like Poshmark, where I can get
like new or even new with tags for a lot less,
as well as put my stuff up for sale as
well as I'm cleaning out, so it's not just better
for my bottom line, it's more sustainable than buying new
stuff I probably don't need anyways.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Shout out to You.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Obvia says that the Florida woman only waited a bit.
Deregulation is coming soon. You will be able to sell
human bones in the US because why not, all right?
The rules and regulations are clearly crushing the spirit of
great innovative minds like this bone lady.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Hello, It's not like the dead really need the bones
for something useful.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
They are just lying around and clearly don't contribute anything
to America facts. Yep, dead people that the ultimate welfare queens.
AJ said, I rarely shop at Target anymore. Sometimes I
go there for household items and toiletries and occasional loot
grocery run. My trip there today was because additional trash

(01:00:29):
bags were needed, and I saw some the old Spice
body watch products were on sell. Buy two or more
and get a five dollar Target gift card. I took
a picture of the discount and it came in handy.
When all the items were scanned a checkout and there
was no five dollar gift card given. I made my
way over to returns and associated the associated fundament my
money and then called for supervisors said the only items
eligible for the discount would select items I did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I purchased two fluid eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
This is getting very fucking detailed about your purchase at Target,
and I'm just gonna say, I really hope this is
going somewhere I really helped to stick the landing. Because
you've already lost me at eighteen ouns of twenty six,
I don't care Anyway, I purchased two floor eighteen. I
touched two eighteen fluorid OUs items and one twenty six

(01:01:15):
fluorent ouse fluent ouse item. The twenty six fluor ouse
item was only eligible product that I paid for the
items again, and the supervisor gave me my five dollar
gift card.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Anyway, since two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Or more old spice products were purchased, I made boycott Target,
since that was a racket and they should have been
more specific on what constitutions select item and the words
of heart never never, never going back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
All right, that was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Weird, Even he says, I couldn't help but think I
like how you was like. I wasn't down with the
cars until I fucked up and didn't read the fine print.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Now fuck Target, I'm down for the calm down with
the blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Even he says, I couldn't help but think of a
few more black bond titles, the DEI who Loved Me
from Compton with the lo.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
And Moon Crocket Raker.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Sorry, I couldn't help myself that's good stuff. Let's move it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Maybe supposed to be Moon cricket raker, but anyway, I'll
take it off. K pop, says has been problem k
pop has been problematic for me, says Ede. Around the
early two thousand, it took a hip hop turn and
took a lot of elements from black culture. What led
to a lot of K pop idols wearing dress and
wearing black face. Some of them were caught using the
N word when singing rap songs as a member in
the BTS h as a member in BTS mocking George Floyd.

(01:02:30):
That did not happen, but one of the cause was
the inn word uh in the song. So I guess
maybe they did a say the N word one of
their songs. There was an incidence where artists named G
Dragon was in blackface with a hoodie as a tribute
to Trayvon Martin. I have no clue why he thought
that was a good idea, but I think that was
probably the incident.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Question. Okay, thank y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
I don't keep up with this, so I didn't mean
to put out in misinformation out there, but I appreciate
y'all making sure that we got our the right information here,
and I I it's the comedic part of my brain
probably does not allow for me to get too upset
about cultural appropriation. I get it, and I don't mock

(01:03:13):
people for being upset by it. But sometimes it's too funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Like I remember we went to a Korean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Fried chicken place, Soul Food, and they have K pop
videos playing all the time, and one time, and I'm
sure we talked about pregame or so. I don't remember
which episode, but what time they had K pop.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Gangster rap.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Yes, it came out of nowhere, y'all. He was sitting
there eating and being Roger like, what is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
It was a lot, matter of fact, it must have
been one of the balls deeper pregames.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I don't remember the episode number.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
I'm so sorry we don't, but I remember that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Yes, we went and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Looked up the videos and were like looking at them
and being like what the fuck because they was like
rapping like it was G Funk era type shit and
it was twenty twenty three or whatever, and they're just
like it was crazy. It was crazy, But you know,
I couldn't be it was so funny.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Doc I didn't even it was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
It's like, this is what our culture looks like to
them from across the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
World, and and we was laughing more than anything.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
And also in that same in that same place, we
saw a dope ass Nariko Naruto cut against Kendrick. Yeah,
well Kendrick was rapping and the whole time we see
narutok going in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah, and that was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
It was gorgeous, wouldn't it It was I think it
was to he dad amen, yes, uh, chit one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yes, spiteful chest yes, And it was just like all
the action scenes of naw To fighting sask And it
was so within that same time, we saw what I
think is beautiful cultural exchange Japanese anime put to put
to black hip hop put to in a Korean fusion restaurant,

(01:05:12):
and that was like beautiful. It was the best everything,
best food, best anime, best music, and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
And that same that then I think it was that
same location, we end up seeing like R and B
in that same location. So they sing it with like
rain falling down on them. Okay, I would say it
was a lot happening.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
So anyway, we got to see all of that and
at the same time we saw hip hop Korean black
Korean people trying to pretend to be black people.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
It's I like, like I said, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I don't think I have the emotional bandwidth to truly
be ripped up about it. But it's just one of
those like the hazards being dope, one of the hazards
being dope. Dog people gonna want to be part of it,
whether you want them two or not. On YouTube, we
got comments five hearts from a name Nick the Sider
says this nonsense ago.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Did it pass the first time with a veto proof majority?
I bet not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I don't know what the ten minute mark is. I'll
try to get to what he's talking about. Let's see,
all right, I'm against this, but if I do veto it,
they'll just vote with an old veto proof MAJO. It
was the Republican who was saying that he's gonna allow

(01:06:27):
a I think it was like either transphobic or it
was some type of weird lot to pass because I
don't want to veto it because then they'll have a
veto proof majority and they'll override my veto.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
It's like you still veto it to show people you're
against it unless you're not really against.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Me, and I don't think they were.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
The girl on the other side of the Road says
this group and others had videos of them leaked weeks ago,
a week ago singing the N word. One of these
groups was Black Pink, who had multiple videos already saying
it cosplaying black people is the solar k pop.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Another person says, K pop has always been cringey to me,
but I just always started it ain't for me, so
I let those who enjoy it enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yeah, it ain't for me either in that way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
And I've never really yucked the young, but I have
always found it weird how I'll leave it alone, cause
motherfucker's gonna get a fitted uh. Anyway, I'm glad people
are enjoying a thing, and they found a thing and
they letting stuff, So I'll say it this way. I've
always found it weird what people will let slide cause
they like that K pop shit, and what they'll call

(01:07:35):
out in American culture, where I'm like, I don't understand
how this is the worse.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
I really don't, and that's maybe it's just not for
me to understand.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
But like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
It feel weird that you could let it slide just
because you into this group. Blackboard for Us says, have
you seen the movie twenty seventy three sci fi documentary
The Banning of History and Books is playing on Max
Good Documentary Side Fi. I've not seen it, Uh, twenty
seventy three, Okay, I'll try to remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Mister oh ten ten says, think too long and your
brain will be gone. Took me out. Karenra said that
see I'm in something too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I probably did, Karen don't even remember saying it, so
I don't know now. Uh the Paul, have you been
shopping at Target in the last eight weeks? Yes, twenty
one percent of our audience is coons and seventy per
is not shout out to the seventy nine percent when
you were coon. I'm joking, Karen Dan. You don't have
to make them feel better than just a joke. They
listened to a joke podcast. Well man makes joke.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Baby, We're gonna get another email about that about them
happening to spend twenty seven ounce point you know received
us either, So I'm serious. So that's all I'm like
telling people, Hey, don't you know know you're got a
cool because I know what. I think we got that
righting because they wanted to just by their purchase because you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Know one thing about coons, they save receipts.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
That was wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
All right, that's time laps by infrared crypto like that beat. Yeah,
at this point, it's gotta be something wrong with my
computer because you keep freezing and I know you're not frozen.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
I am not frozen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I'm gonna just trust y'all and keep moving.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Okay, just find on my screen, all right, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Just weird anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Next episode is thirty seventy nine Return of the Jack
had Jack Thompson International Mister Leather from twenty nineteen. On
the show, Rona Raphael says, do you have triple threat
kids in our way between Bullseye or the punish her
to guarantee your safety?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Worry no more.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oss is here with a Mother's Day premium package.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Hurry now, and don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Your kids shall be returned back to you brand new,
well behaved, with just a little increase of salt water intake.
By the way, Karen and Rod I saw how Carr
was able to accept that Trump's MAGA was racist and
reset the next day Black Mirror season seven episode to
confirm my biggest suspicion of why my tickets to Africa
havn't been selling. Open your third eyes. I'll connected. I'll

(01:10:28):
get that sucker one day. Well, I haven't watched the episode.
I don't get that reference, but shout out to those
who do. Uh huh, I just says that my work,
I learned that you can change minds with facts. The
only one way is changing minds with emotions. Oh, you
can't change mine with facts. The only way to change
minds with emotions. People who are stuck in their opinion
no matter what the facts say because it's too hard.
Dimit that they have been wrong. Unfortunately, one emotional story,

(01:10:50):
emotionally manipulating will bring more changes than facts for most people.
But this is also a key to change minds for
the other side. I wish it was different, but this
is how the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Human mind works.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Right Wing is working with fear, and it's one of
the strongest emotions. Fear and anger a very dangerous mix. Yeah,
you know what else happens too. I think there's a
reasonable amount of jealousy from many people who are like, hey,
how come white people's emotions get to be facts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
And when you look at what I would consider to be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Hypocrisy from certain groups that are marginalized, who live under
white supremacy and whatnot, the reason it doesn't register is
hypocrisy to them, I think is because they're like white
people get to do this all the time, and so
what would be fair is if I two got to
do this. You know, it's like when yes, you know,

(01:11:45):
it's like when someone's answer to racism is like, well,
just be racist to a different group, or be racist
back to that group, and it's not really justice or fairness,
because honestly, fairness would be no one's allowed to be
racist to any all right, But you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
See the perfect example. NBA NBA Josh Giddy NBA player
got in.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Trouble sleeping with a girl who uh seems consensual but
was under like was sixteen or something. There's pictures of
him on social media standing next to her with no
shirt on. I think she left comments on social media
about sleeping with him and stuff, so obviously reasonable suspicion
this happened.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
The girl did not.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Press charges, or family didn't press charges. They didn't operate
with police. There's literally almost nothing they can do as
as for the NBA as a league or legally to
truly do anything to this man, right, whether money change,
had any of this stuff period, There's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Just like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Ninety nine percent of people, regardless of their race, would
not have gotten in any more trouble other than a
social scandal, which is what happened with Josh Gidty. Makes
sense to me. I'm not saying I'm not condoning or
not condoning. I'm simply say these are the facts to me.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Meanwhile, I know a lot of black people, black men specifically,
who are very upset about the handling of the NBA
with that. And the thing is this is a double standard.
If he was black, he would have got in trouble. Now,
I would disagree with them, okay, And the reason I
would disagree with them is that we do have some

(01:13:25):
examples of black players who are playing in the league
right now who had what I would consider to be
almost worse scandals and they never got in trouble for him.
The perfect example to me is this guy, Jackson Hayes.
He's a center for the Los Angeles Lakers. He was
caught on camera after his girlfriend called the police and

(01:13:46):
said he physically attacked her. He physically fought the cops,
got tased and arrested, bounced around a couple teams, but
not He's playing for the Lakers and their playoff run
never suspended.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Not a game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
To me, he's black. To me, that sounds like how
the league handleshit when you don't Because he didn't get
he didn't get found guilty or anything in court like
it was very much alike. If we can get away
with not doing anything, we're gonna try to get away
with not doing anything. Other times, when it's either really
public or really embarrassing, or you know whatever, typically the

(01:14:25):
league will have to do something based on public reaction.
It's not really a science to it, in my opinion.
And if you get convicted of something, they almost always
do something. So you go to court and you found guilty,
you're going to miss some games. You are right, But
I do understand what these black men are upset about.
They're really upset about this double standard that exists in

(01:14:48):
the world. Whether they can prove it with this guy
or not, they have a feeling and they believe that feeling.
It's emotions as oppias said, it's not necessarily facts, and
so I think a lot of times people get caught
up in that and not necessarily about the the facts
of the fairness is more about the feelings of the unfairness,

(01:15:11):
and if people covet that feeling, they would like their
feelings to be what. I think what these black people
want is in a world where we have seen black
people be disproportionately punished in times where things should have
been neutral or at least fairly adjudicated, They're like, I
want to see that happen to a white person. It'll
make me feel better if that If Josh Giddy was black,

(01:15:32):
these same black men would be on the side of
why the fuck is the league even worried about this.
I'm not saying that's right, but that is what they
would be. They would be like, this is business. Ain't
nobody pressing no charges. It's considual. But the second that
it was, the second that you switched the race, they
was like, throw the book at him, because white people
do that out a time, and so they're like, why

(01:15:55):
can't we get to be like those white people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I know they don't like when I phrase it that way,
but that is how I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
And I'm not trying to say that to piss anybody
body offer be offensive. I just really think that is
the soul of what I mean by coveting whiteness. Not
you want to be a white person or you want
to be a white man, but you would like the
levers of power to move in a way that is equitable.
And instead of saying we can, because it's not realistic,

(01:16:25):
how do we disempower white supremacy, They're like, that's not
gonna happen. So how do I empower some black supremacy?
Every once in a while while I'm like, hey man,
Brad Pitt still making movies, why is Jonathan Major's not
still making movies?

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
I see their.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Point, even if I would arrive at a different conclusion
than they.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Would agreed In another prime example, I guess for me
on the outside. Another prime example was the Boston Celtic coach.
A lot of that sentiment jumped out in that situation
where people ignore employer employee relationship ignored. Did you know
me the other shit that happened behind that? And it

(01:17:04):
was this is a black man, leave him alone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
We got to be able to You're like, no, but
that her argument is based on and allegedly, I mean,
how can you prove it or not prove it, But
allegedly white men do this all the time, and they'll
get in trouble. Now it turns out that to me
that's not true, because Minnesota had a similar situation happened
and fired their GM quietly, like real fast, that the

(01:17:27):
same year. And and but they don't count those counterfactuals
because they're only looking at if if if we had
these same emotions and we were white, the league would
have to respond. But because we're not white, they don't respond.
Whether that's fair or not fair, the unfairness is that

(01:17:47):
you're not listening to us even if we're wrong. And
I think that's uh, that's where the people arrive at
those conclusions. Rona Rafael says also shout out to Jack
always in all some guests gotta remember his bar next
time in Baltimore area.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Even he says, Jack was a great guest.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
You weren't kidding about black mayors being hated and Philly
the current mayors hated and I don't think she's been
in office for a year because she and the city
council tried to get the new sixer Stadium built in
the Chinatown area of the city, which would have pushed
out a bunch of the businesses and residents, but the
owner of the team played in her face and decided
to build in another part of the city. People still
hate her, though. I understand how all the Davis feels.

(01:18:21):
I learned the hard way about not judging people on
their appearance because I had a neighbor who kind of sucked.
As someone told me he was sick. I didn't believe
them because he looked fine well when I didn't see
him for a while and I was thinking good. But
when I saw someone move into his house, asked if
he moved, they say he died.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Dang. Even though he annoyed me, I kind of wish
I was nicer to him. That's deep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
All right, Let's check the poll, I mean, check the
YouTube comments. Four comments on this one. My mom says
those Baybay kids Robin Harris lol, badass kids. Amien says,
I kind of I feel caring one hundred percent. Those
teams need to feel the consequence of that actions. Those
are the ones that beat up the mom or attack

(01:19:05):
the stabb the mom and to push the grandmama down
because the WiFi got cut off.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Kylie br Mike says, what up? N c he cousins. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
What I have noticed for years, even more now today,
is that there are too many brothers who don't care
about nothing that has to force them to actually read
past the Instagram or TikTok post. I mean, God damn,
I know what Rod just said about how Republican lives
will be their truth. And it feels that the false
masculine bravado in bullshit is will cause a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Nigga to nod their head in agreement. It will.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
But if a motherfucker says it does something that's fact
based and can even can be even handed, equals caring
and God forbid helps other people, then that fact that
soft week of feminine and can't be true. Man, you
are strumming my my song.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
With your fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
That is that is some real shit right there, man,
And I don't know what to do with it. I
love black people, I love black men, but like that
this this masculinity shit got a old on us in
a way that I don't think there will many black
dudes will never see that that stuff doesn't serve us.
And I don't know how to convince them that it's

(01:20:11):
an illusion that will never be for us, and it
was never meant for us. We of all cultures and
all races, should be the most in joint union with
our sisters, with the LGBTQ people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
In our in our community. The white supremacy, the white
masculinity shit, the American dream is one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Of fraud that is built on our backs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
We should know better.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
We've had nothing but two uh income households because of slavery.
From inception, the vast majority of Black Americans have never
not known community because you had to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
You know, even after slavery.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
You had your woman work for some white people in
their house, and she work on the farm with you
and y'all raise y'all kids together, and she raised and
she helped raise. Like I don't know how they get
caught up in this, man, I don't. It's frustrating, but
I see it happen so often, and it goes unchallenged

(01:21:22):
because I think a lot of black men we seek
unity by not challenging that kind of narrative, and we
just don't want to start no shit, and we want
to we want to be together more than we want
to be necessarily honest. We're not measuring loyalty and checking

(01:21:43):
each other. We're measuring loyalty in this idea of just
going along to get along. And I say that not
trying to be preachy. I say that not trying to
be like man, I hate black men. I say out
of love. I love us, And so US is gay people,

(01:22:04):
US is trans people, US is you're weird black people,
you off center black people whatever, like us is all
of us, and it's just weird. How often you can
just throw some masculine red meat out there and motherfuckers
will throw everybody in the bushes, like just real quick.

(01:22:25):
And it's supposed to be a signifier to each other
of like yeah, because we black men, damn it right,
you know it's the And I'll never understand it. I
don't understand the allure of it because I just think
the more you read about it, the more you know it,
that dream will never happen for you. There's no land
in which, well, America is not the land in which

(01:22:49):
a black man can.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Achieve.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I'm so much of a man. I can achieve the
American dream. It's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
We have to do it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Can community we do need to be understanding to each
other's issues and have some empathy, and honestly, to me,
that's the strongest. I'm not one of these people that
think like male energy is toxic and shit. I think
the strongest version of a man is a protector. I
think that's that's what I look up to. And I

(01:23:24):
think a lot of people have made a lot of excuses.
This isn't a black thing, this is a man thing.
In America, a lot of people have made excuses for
why they can be craving cowards and bullies and call
that manhood. And it hurts me to see brothers that
file for that, because I'm like, that's not for us.

(01:23:48):
Like our heroes are the ones that stand up, not
the ones that pick on other people and bully other people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
It shouldn't be anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
So all that to say, like I listen to podcasts
where someone just throws one of them red meat grenades
in the room and his brother's talking, and next thing
you know, you're listening to dudes and you're like, wow,
they really lost the plot. You know, they went from
talking about what democrats need to do to like, why
can't I, as a black man be the woman or
whatever the fuck you know, that's extreme, But my point

(01:24:18):
being like where it's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Like, whoa, how'd y'all even get there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
That doesn't make sense compared to what you just were
talking about. But yeah, I don't know how you reach
those people. And it's very prevalent, man, this fucking man.
The spirit shit is winning the internet. Like it is
very strong, and it's very tempting because you don't have
to think, and you always get to be the victim
but always be right and always be the bully at
the same time, and that makes people dig hard to

(01:24:42):
be like ooh, I get to be the one to
say everybody ain't shit but.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Me as opposed to being like, I don't know. That's
not really fair.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Yeah, And also, you know, those things just as human beings,
it doesn't promote growth, It doesn't promote it doesn't challenge you,
doesn't make you grus as a person, It doesn't draw
you closer to your family, friends and loved ones like like,
I'm just keeping.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Every like like the totality of what makes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
A human being a human being, it's more than anger
and laughter and you know, and crying every now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
And it's just weird because like I would expect if
these dudes had like a gay kid, they would protect
and they would still be a father and love their
gay kid. Like these are not the kind of guys.
I don't even listen to shows like that, so they're
not the kind of people I think of them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
But I just think there's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
A cultural you know, people away talk about virtual signaling,
and they always make virtual signalings sound like extreme left shit,
like oh, when you said you put pronouns in your bio,
that's because you're virtual signaling.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
And I'm like, okay, maybe that is true.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
I accept that, but you know what else is virtual
signaling when you're telling somebody bitches ain't shit but you,
but you love your wife and your sisters and your mom, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Who you're virtual signaling for? Somebody?

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Y'all are still high five and somewhere metaphorically to be like, hey,
we're together and that's a real thing that happens, and
people don't acknowledge it in that way. It's only the
virtues they don't the virtues they're more ashamed of. But right,
all right back to the comment, though, it's frustrating to
have to try and explain that taking away shit from
people is stopping waste, but don't let VP hair support

(01:26:21):
putting sanitary napkins in women's restrooms is weak and caving
into liberal democratic falseness. To hear mf's black people talk
about illegal immigrants as if the president in their country
is something terrible and taken away from them personally.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
It's probably the most confusing shit ever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Yup, and it works. I've seen brothers that promote that.
But I feel that is a black person, that it's
a black person who is consciously and subconsciously working for
white people's acceptance, but only for themselves, as if they
show that they believe the same way as them, they're
going to make it become equal a good black.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
I wish there was a law.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
That forced people to continue some sort of education and
read for a tax credit. I wonder if the dumb
ass people who are out and proud to be ignorant
will be dumb as they are forced education.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
H oh well drug.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
I agree with a lot of what you said, man,
I just think I don't know what you do with it,
because I'm also very surprised on her black people that
are like using Republican talking points on immigration where they
say stuff like, well, if you're not in this country illegally,
you should have got nothing to be worried about. And
I'm like, when have you, as a black person ever
felt that the law was fairly applied?

Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
Right? Like, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
I don't understand that either, And what makes you think
they want look at your black ass and put you
on the boat too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
It's just how many times have they have we seen
somebody shoot a cop get shot by a copp or something,
And then so one went, well, if they were just
legally have followed the law, and we're like, that's not
the fucking point. Speeding shouldn't be a death sentence. It
is a point, not the how is Howard is a judicated?

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Is what our point is. It's not the the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Hey, all right, I'm not gonna do it anyway. Michael
just says, great episode. Thanks, you're welcome, buddy, appreciate you,
and let's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
See the poe. Will you listen to Snoop Dogg's new
gospel album one No Damn? All right? So much for that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Last episode is thirty eighty. Allow us to reintroduce ourselves.
We got the new logo, the branding, the all the
little cool stuff we're doing, and you guys are gonna
see guess the rates popping off soon. I think on Monday,
you know, check the social needs. We will be putting
content out there. Michael sounds like Michael says, thanks for

(01:28:45):
taking talking about Senator Chris van Holing Uh going to
El Salvador to try to see the man Trump's ad
men illegally detained there listening to you talk about it
our pause and called his office.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
I live in Maryland. He's my senator to thank him
for that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
You're totally right that he put his own personal safety
on the line, and I'm proud to say that I
voted for him and that he represents me. Yeah, you
know what's scary, man, And once again I'll have to
depart from I'm sure a lot of people that think this,
and I'm not saying you're crazy, but it's scary to
me how many people thought that man was dead. And

(01:29:24):
it's not scary to me because he could have been dead,
blah blah blah. It's scary to me that we are
in that perilous a time that people thought that man
who was locked up was dead and it was all
a big cover up and the reason I find the
word I say the word scary is Misinformation is the

(01:29:45):
point for trumping them. Disinformation is the point for them.
Nebulous stuff, will we assume the worst is the point
for them. And when the picture was taken with the senator,
I saw people being like, it's fake, it's ai just
is and real, and it didn't make sense because that
would mean the Senator was now in on it, that

(01:30:06):
he was not really a Democrat that was worried about
a constituent from his state, but he just flew down
there to help Trump cover it up, because he'd have
to be complicit in taking that picture, because he would
have to have come on camera later and tell you
he met with that man and be like I met
with that man knowing he was lying and that man
was dead. So like the conspiracies go, I'm so afraid

(01:30:30):
for this country because those are good people buying that conspiracy.
You're a good person, and you're going, this is what
this is now when the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Truth is just as bad. The truth is this man
shouldn't be down there locked up, period. That's all. The
truth don't need any extra or cut your moms.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
We don't need to like make it worse than it is,
and we don't need to keep the conspiracy going when
we have no reason to. As soon as you saw
that picture, you didn't need to be like, well, that's
because he's AI.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
He dead.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
We could still be like, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
What, man, I'm glad he's still alive. I'm glad he's alive.
They need to get that man back to his family
are period. And so I didn't like the conspiracy thing.
I know people think they're being clever or some I
don't know what they think, but I just like critical thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Once you say, well, so what are we saying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Needs to happen for this conspiracy to be true? Then
Senator Chris van Holand goes from hero to piece of
shit complicit asshole?

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Right, And I don't think that of him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
There's no way for him to be a good guy
and that AI picture bullshit to be true and him
be on camera talking about it's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
It doesn't anyway. It was scary man sad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
And then of course it plays in the trumpet them hand,
because then what do they get.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
To say, Oh, he's not dead, y'all said.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
We tortured and killed him when he looks fine to
us you're lying liberal.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
This is what's wrong with the liberals.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
They're always making shit up and it plays right into
their hands, and it distracts from their original point, which
is the man shouldn't be fucking down there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
That's the real point. That's the real point.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
He don't have to be dead for us to know
it's abusive to keep him there period.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Anyway, they playing our faces.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
I'd been says it made me very happy that Karen
advocated for herself and for what I heard, her company
isn't evil, even decent. So maybe you will get a
bigger raise, and even if it's not this time, it
will still be good overall for personal growth for those
who can advocate to others but not themselves. Try to
imagine a colleague who does all the good things you do.
Is it you a woman named Sharon? What would you

(01:32:39):
think about Sharon's work? Would she deserve recognition? And if so,
why not you exactly think of Sharon. Pamela Inmate says,
I've never ordered from Sheen, but a few days ago
my mother forced it an outback steakhouse coupon on me.
But I wasn't able to use a coupon online, so
I had to call in my order read off my
credit card number because I want to go pick up

(01:32:59):
my food and go. The waitress who took my phone
call gave me my food was a skinny, young white
girl lower and Behold. Late on that evening, there were
a couple of late charges one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Dollars and two hundred and seventy seven to sheen God.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
It's a capital around three hundred items.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
It's a capital one card and they don't play, so
there was no problem getting those charges of verse immediately.
I called a restaurant manager the next day to let
them know what occurred. I wasn't even accused of anyone
of anything, and I don't need anything from them. But
it's sure as a coincidence that the one time I
read off my credit card number, my car gets these
charges the same evening, right after closing time at eleven PM.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
If you're planning on stealing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
From me, you could at least wait a few days
in case I don't notice, and that he may want
to be aware. He seemed to be hipped to it
because the waitress I reference fit the profile of achene customer.
Whatever that means. I don't even know what that means either.
She in a fast fashion aparently, so Mary says, I'm
so excited about all this branding news for you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Branding news for you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
I think the purple until colors are perfect since you
are such Hornets fans and there's unique combination just like
you too.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Also very random.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
But one of the things that makes me laugh every
time is during the commercial when you two read when
Rod says Baccara and Kr says not that Baccara never
fast forward.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Just to hear it. It takes me out every time,
me too.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
It's hilarious shout out to us getting paid more off
of that commercial than the other commercials.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
So yeah, I'm glad you don't fast forward.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Aj Martin says it was nice to hear Kara's mindset
shift on self evaluations. I have a word document that
lists all my accomplishments and activity over the years. Since
it is easy to forget and when it's time to
start filling out the assessment, that document comes in handy
for metrics and advocating for yourself when it comes to
merit increases and pay raises. Eve says, I used to
order machine, but I stopped because the clothes were cheap,

(01:34:47):
but they would only last one of two rounds in
the washing machines.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
So while I.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
Say machine is the enemy, machine, shit right, Well I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Save money initially, I'm not really because the clothes don't
last long and you have to buy more stuff a
place that you lost never touched timu, because I know
too many people have had their credit card number stolen
from using them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Jesus what they didn't tell me that? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
And then let's see on YouTube do we get any
comments on this?

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
Whoa ten comments? What the fuck?

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Alicia says, looking at Marvin swaps sweat Marvin sap sweaty shirt,
say that ten times fast brought back some church memories.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
We had thirty two different funds to donate, and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
My preacher, Reverend Glover Woo, if you're sat in the
first one or two rows, he would slap you in
the face with his stank breath up there, hooting and hollering.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
For Jesus. He never locked the doors.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Though, No r Kelly jokes for kinky Kelly, she says,
well she was peing on stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
That's about bad. You dropped the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Omar says, Oh my god, I love the music. For
the White People News section is such bad quality.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
It is perfect. Thank you, thank you to rock the Puss.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
I think send it to us, but I don't know
if he would agree it's bad quality. I don't know
what the rules are on that. I don't know if
he intended it to be bad quality or not. But
I appreciate it. It's a bop.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
It is a boy painted, It's a bop.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
That should be.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Maybe that's what I need to make a white people
need your shirt at some point. Bonitojanita says, I really
need that Run Nigga Run Club shirt to be a
part of this new merch man. I gotta figure out
how to make that. Obviously, they're not gonna let us
sell Nigga, so I figure something out.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Anyway, we'll think about it. Brand. No, I'm not one
of those blacks I hate. I hate substitutes for the
N word.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I'm being a coward and say it or don't say it.
Don't make me say it with that ninja bullshit not slick.
Ramsey pH Done says, let's go rebrand. Y'all are the best.
Rashad says, I've been to church locking, but I ain't
never been locked in a church hallelujah with a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Bunch of laughing emotions. Thank you, I was very fond
of making that joke.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Christ says Karen, don't you dare apologize? You right about
these mo folks?

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Go off, Queen Kate Minor says, I'm here for kar
from the Karen Hunter Show. So nice.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Put a face with your names. Karina says, welcome new tipper.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Man. We need an emoji like Kevi on stage, got
the stage crew? What's just the tip of emoji be?
Is it just cash?

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
Is it a dollar sign?

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Is it money? Let me let me see if they
got a money emoji?

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Yeah, we gotta think of something so when we talk
about y'all, y'all can just throw it up in the
chat room.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Yeah, I think we got they gotta have a money emoji.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Do they have a dollar dollar emoji?

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Dollar sign? Let's see if I put dollar?

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
They got one that just looks like cash. Uh, they
got a bag of money. I think maybe it's probably
it's probably gonna be the cash. It's probably gonna be
us right, all right, We'll let y'all know if we
come up with something else. But I'm thinking it's some
type of money. Oh, that's a cash with angel wings

(01:38:00):
on it. I like that that that means something I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
I don't know what heaven lick cash.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Like that one. Okay, Yeah, let's make that that's the
new tip in the Mooji. Dude, that cash with the angel.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Win the cash with the angel, because y'all ave angels,
Jason says, love a new logo. Y'all don't worry about
Charlotte Hornet's copyright issue ride. I think technically they were
still bobcatting when y'all started. If anything, they might need
the license that back from y'all. A shout out to
the governor of Maine sticking up for her people. No
one has gone this hard and Maine sense Andrew Duframe

(01:38:42):
and sew Shank shout out to that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
And the poll is have you ever ordered she seen again? TM?
Audience has six?

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Yeah, they they everywhere. They be sending me emails all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Yep, all right, y'all, let's go to the voicemails and
I'll play another one of these new infra red crypto beats.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
That was called Luminous Man. I love that beat. It
sounds like some R and B throwback music.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
All right, let's get to h the only voicemail we
had this week.

Speaker 6 (01:39:46):
Sorry, really sorry my mom's girls. That's leaping two messages,
but like now it's so much change in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Gotta say, what's interesting here is this is the first
message didn't come through, so this is just the second message.
I don't know what you talked about in the first message,
but we have We're gonna let it ride out.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
And you two like like I'm not talking about growth
and evolution, because that happens naturally as we learn new things.
But like it's just just being so consistent in the
message that you're delivering to your listeners. Like you guys
have not like wavered from that core message, from that
core come point of what makes both of you who

(01:40:27):
you are. And this is why I've been listening for
what we're in terms of five plus years now, because
like I really appreciate everything that you guys say every
time you guys get on that mic. So I appreciate y'all.
You know I said this wasn't really see I was
more just like giving you guys your flowers again, like
to all the new listeners, this is your first episode
listening your tenth episode. Just know that five years from now,

(01:40:51):
what you're hearing from Ron and Karen is going to
be the same thing you're gonna hear. Like in those
five years, the core message will still be there. They're
not gonna switch upon you. Like some of these flakes
today they got that Spotify money. They didn't switch upon us.
You know, they're less Spotify. They didn't switch up switch bots.

(01:41:13):
They might get might get some new money coming down
the line, you never know, like you know, and they
still won't switch upon us. So I appreciate. I appreciate that,
you know, I appreciate this being constant in the world
that's like ever changing. Love y'all. Appreciate y'all, Like I'll
forever be a listener no matter what. So thank you, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Man, that means a lot to me. Honestly, we thank you, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Because I really think consistency is key. But consistency isn't
just like how often you put our content. It's really
sticking to your principles. And I love how you say it,
like it doesn't mean like we won't learn or evolve
or change, but like the core of it, I think
I think we I I'm most proud of that, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
And if there's any limits to what we do as far.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
As growth and our brand, it'll be because there's limits
to staying consistent, because I mean, I've seen people take
that off ramp. And one of the most frustrating things
as a listener to podcasts or consumer of someone's content
is when they you can feel it where they go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
This is not it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
I'm making this turn to a more right wing pivot,
or I'm going to make this turn to a more
like inauthentic, like I'm branding myself in a way that
is no longer. I'm doing it different because I'm seeing
what other people are doing and they're blowing up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
And it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
It's man, that shit is a lot very tempting. When
you just see like we got the same number listens
every time, well, you see that number trickle down a
little bit because people are moving on and they don't
want to. They they're more enamored with the ship that
they claim to be against. You know, our numbers are
never going to look like Breakfast Club. Our numbers are

(01:43:02):
never gonna look like Joe Budden. It's not that's not
our lane, that's not for us, those listeners us, you know,
but the numbers we have been like more than enough
to survive on, more enough to thrive on, and most importantly, man,

(01:43:23):
we sleep good, like like I have never had to
get off this microphone and feel like fuck I saw
it out today.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
I don't even believe that when you meet me in real.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Life, You've never I've never had a conversation with somebody
who had to be like, that's just what I'd be
saying on the podcast, Like, Nah, this is.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Really us, It really is.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
And it's just one of those things when you said
about the consistency. That's one thing about us. Yes, we do,
like right say, we grow, we evolve, We change our opinions,
change our views, change as we get new information.

Speaker 5 (01:43:54):
We're not gonna be on the same.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Bullshit when facts and things that you know me have
came in like Okay, we've.

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
Learned something new or these things.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Have changed my mind, changed my opinion in or changed
my views, and that's okay because that's a part of
being a human being. Just because you said something once,
does that mean you have to stick with that thing forever?
And I think we live in a society where people
say something get stuck and refuse to fucking evolve and change,
and I.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Think, uh, the core of your being is more important
than just I don't change, But a lot of people
don't believe it, Like a lot of our media is
based off of like I never changed.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
I don't care what evidence I'm presented with.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
I'm gonna have the same opinion I had before and
I'm gonna deliver it the same way I have before.
And that's not to me. What consistency is. Consistency is like,
this is what I would like my message to be.
That's why I would like to communicate, and I'm gonna
do that in the best way I can possible. And
sometimes it's gonna change because I got new information. But
the consistency, the loyalty to yourself is not a loyalty

(01:44:55):
to I'll never I said this, and god damn it,
I meant no. Sometimes it's like, oh I didn't know that.
Thank you, you know anyway, but yeah, thank you for listener,
for calling in Voicemails is the last segment. Email our
emails is the last segment. I'll just go straight into it.
No need to put a beat here. I don't think

(01:45:17):
Clyde says you tare the absolute best. Hey, Rod and
Karen two are the best podcasts in the business. I
want to keep this short to the point, so here
we go five five bullet points. Number one, Marissa tore
Tomay looks as good as she does because her freshman
year at Hillman Whitley Gilbert and Melissa turned her own.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
The cocoa and Shaye butter. That makes sense. Taking that
skinned girl too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
My wife said she used to wash her but dazzle
jeans inside out to keep the gems on.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
Oh that's smart.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Three.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
I wanted to shout out my thirteen year old son
who loves to listen to the show with me, who
just earned his jiu jitsu black belt.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Before you start with the watch out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
For your son, kamen, I'm also his sin saying he
could catch these hands.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
When I said fight me in my five star review,
I meant it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
Come on, juice it too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
That's fair, Clyde. I wasn't even gonna tell you. I
wasn't gonna warrn you to watch out for your son.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
I was assuming that if you know you you keeping
up with his black belt for a reason.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
Ain't that the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
You know, Dad ain't never gonna let you get one
over on him. Plus you get them old man hands
on him. It's nothing really a thirteen year old could do.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
And you know, oh people, juice it you this boy,
and still with your ass.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
For how long before y'all have a live show on
Urban View?

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
I don't know. I like people always say that to me.
First of all, care Hunter, It's been nothing but great
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
It's been Yeah, it's been nothing but fun times over there.
I've never gone to the with the agenda of like
and then I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Be on urban View one day too and blow up two.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
I mean, honestly, the main thing I've learned hanging out
with Karen every Friday is how much fucking work that
shit is.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
It ain't for it, it ain't for.

Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
The week, it ain't for the fan of heart.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
And y'all know how much work I do for this
podcast as is, and y'all don't even know some of
the shit I'm working on behind the scenes for like
projects and other stuff that's happening, So it would be
a very serious undertaking to have to do that. Plus
y'all know I'm trying to like work on my fitness,
dedicating at least an hour to my health, like every

(01:47:22):
like six days a week, basically meaning I don't necessarily
know when I would even have the time to do
something like that, not that I wouldn't consider it obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
That would be awesome or whatever to a certain degree.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
And then also with our own show, we couldn't just
stop our show.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
It's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
It's a lot of moving parts and stuff like that.
As of right now, man, I'm just happy and blessed
to be a part of that community and having fun.
I look forward to every Friday. It always flies by.
She's all hilarious, you know, she's always a great host.
We have such great chemistry together the listeners and they,
you know, they tend to like me, and so I'm

(01:48:01):
just enjoying it for what it is. But I never really,
to be honest, I never move like that, Like, I
never move in a way That's what I never moved
with anything in a way of like, And one day
I'm gonna be looking, I'm gonna build this equity up
to where I have blank Maybe I should have moved
like that, and maybe it's come back to Hamy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
I don't know, I'll never know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Because I'm happy, and when you're happy, I think you're
not necessarily thinking about the next thing or the thing
you don't have yet. But uh man, I just enjoy
hanging out over there, and I'm glad so many of
y'all crossover and come to listen to us, because that's
really the hard part is when you do stuff like that,
when you show up in other spaces.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
And you're a fan or your friend or you're whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Person over there, it's very hard to get people to
come fuck with you on what you do, right, because
what we do isn't necessarily the same as what Karen does.
We're good people, and I think that's where you see
some crossover and like, oh, these good people have very
similar values.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
But you know, there's rules to radio, rules to how
she gets down there a little different than us.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
There's some people that are gonna come over and be
turned off and vice versa. But to see like that
ven diagram have some overlaps that one actually crosses has.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Been very, very rewarding. It has five.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Lastly, I want to encourage you in Karen, to keep
up the great work. Continue to bring the most complete
podcast ever to the people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Clyod mL steven says, shout out not show related. I
took Karen's advice a long time ago and pretty much
detached from social media. I post stuff from time to
time to get the silly shit out of my head,
but that's about it. I'm not scrolling yo, I'm not
really reading or watching news anymore. In fact, I'm going
out of my way to avoid that shit. If with
being honest, I'm trying to preserve the last shreds of

(01:49:45):
my sanity fam as dirty Harry Callahan says, a man
got to know his limitations in that vein.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
I have not been listening to the show much.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Oh when nig fuck you click, but I have been
catching a lot of the shorts on Facebook and YouTube.
Sometimes I just just to get my Karen's laugh fixed.
I just wanted to drop a quick line to say, Rod,
you look fucking great man. All the work you put
in really shows, and last year you actually inspired me to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Get my shit together. I haven't been working out like
you have, but exercising.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
I totally changed my diet and I've been working on
my portrait control. And then last year I gone from
about two hundred and seventy five down to my goal
weight of two fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
I'm six five.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
For reference, I had gotten up to two eighty five
and then broke my leg because my friend couldn't handle away.
I was under one sixty, a skinny bastard most of
my adult life, but started gaining weight about ten years
ago in my forties. But yeah, man, I wanted to
thank you for putting the bug in my ear. Thank
you brother, love you guys, regards Mark, Thank you Mark,
that's dope.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Congratulations, glad to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
And I'm sorry you can't listen to the show as often,
but I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
I don't know, man, we really had.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
I definitely had some things to consider at the Trump one,
how we were going to navigate this period of time,
because you know, I'm not gonna lie. My first reaction
was like, fuck, maybe we don't even talk politics.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
Not because I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Afraid of any of the pushback, but literally because it's
just like I was so angry and discouraged that it's like,
what the fuck do people even need to hear?

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
They don't see the threat that we're under.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
But as always, I would feel it's not true to
myself or our show or who we are to put
our heads in the sand and not talk about these things.
That being said, I don't want to turn our podcast
into the bummer news hour every day of just how
much Trump is doing more bullshit and we can't really

(01:51:38):
even like discuss it, and so politics until we came
got mad, get mad, came out of nowhere really is
just during the show.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Then I was like, this is what we'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
We'll cover it when it starts getting annoying and angering,
but you always will.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
We just moved to the next shit and don't talk
about it no more. And I think that's worked so far.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
I like that. To me, that is a great fix.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
I think it's honest.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
I think y'all listening are probably feeling similar to us,
where y'all get mad at these ship as we read it,
and it still keeps a level of humor to it. Yes,
which needs to You need a spoonful of sugar these days.
I can't be woe is me on the gallows of

(01:52:24):
the slave ship. And uh, in a time like this,
we need joy, we need hope, we need we need
to be a big picture. We need resilience, we need commitment,
we need to understand we got to if we're talking
to survive this, we are too. We're gonna have to
uh endure it. It's not gonna be a quick fix.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
Endure it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
And so I don't want to abscond any level of.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Responsibility or thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
But but I understand that that means some of y'all
won't won't be able to listen.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Peter says, ride a Carren the hot five stars for
Rider Karen, thank you, and he put emoji that makes
five stars pop.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
On the screen.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Oh adorable.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
And lastly, Jen says, Hey, y'all, great episodes this week.
Per use.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
I was writing to see if there's a way to
listening to you on Caaren Hunter without serious ExM. I
did my googles, but I didn't see anything.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Thanks Jen. I'ma be honest, I don't know. I don't
know how that works one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
I know they have some app stuff with serious ExM,
so you don't necessarily have to have the actual satellite
radio in like a car.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
You can stream serious ExM.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
But I don't know if that means you have to
still pay for it. I imagine you still would have
to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
Somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
I think there are some deals that they have where
like you know, oh this much, this loan for free
and all of this stuff. But yeah, yeah free for
three months than nine ninety nine a month. I'm sure
there's other stuff that you know, because there's always other stuff.
Oh you student agreement or you know this thing, but yeah,

(01:54:03):
I would imagine that you have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Something to do it. So that's all I know. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
And also they put the shorts on YouTube what I'm
on Karen Hunter Show, so sometimes it won't be the
whole show, and it's that and to me, it's not
the same as listen to the whole show, and even
listening to me on there on Friday isn't the same
as listening to her throughout the week.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
Like it's a different vibe. But you can get your fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
You can get some some of me and Karen hanging
out having fun times on YouTube. Just search the Karen
Hunter Show. I sometimes I'll see the clips, but I
never look at the comments because I don't I don't know.
YouTube is crazy eight.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
They're not going to put you in front of everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Yeah, I don't want to hop in her comments and
being their motherfucking people, and she'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Like, damn Rod, for real, you know they should have
been talking shit. I'm just there to have fun. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
If you mad about people wearing pink shirts, keep that
ship to yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
Okay, not on my watch.

Speaker 5 (01:54:59):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
All right, y'all, that's it, Thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
We'll be back throughout the week until and like I said,
follow our social media's look out for guest stories coming Monday.
You know, look out for the merch all that stuff
is coming soon. So until next time, I love you,

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