3087: Commiserate

Rod and Karen banter about getting a tech gadget, Shedeur Sanders draft debacle, and keeping paperwork. Then they discuss Rock N Roll Hall of Fame inductees, companies suing OpenAI for copyright infringement, and sword ratchetness.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because
Rod and Karen or Hunt.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, welcome to another episode of The Black Guy Who
Tells Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm your host, Rod joined us always.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
By my coast here and we are live on a Monday,
ready to give you some podcasting. The official weapon of
the show is the DN chair correct and the unofficial
sport and bulet.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Bar extreme extreme extreme Extreme.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Uh yo, the sale is still going on. We did
put that episode in your feed. Now we see people
signing up. Thank you so much. Gotten emails from people's
people asking, you know, can we use other things? The
pagetead of PayPal, I got you The Black Guy Tips
at gmail dot COM's the email address, so make sure
you guys are doing that. And we appreciate all the

(00:53):
follows that we're getting on the guest, the race, Instagram,
YouTube and tiktoks. We appreciate all that as well. Karen,
you already do some banter, I am, do.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You have any talk to me? Do you have any
talk to me? Do you have any banter? Banter? Banter, banter, banter?
Do you have any banter?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Talk to me?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do you have any banter? Banter? All right, Karen, banter away.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
I am kind of proud of myself. Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
I'm not gonna say I'm non tech, because I do
know somewhat of some tech stuff, and I feel like
I don't know that much. But sometimes I meet people
and I'm just like, oh you you know even less
than me. I'm looking like what you in the bad condition.
So I am very proud of myself. It's not non techy,
but I guess it is techy.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
If you don't know. Uh, for cars, whenever.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
They have like the ability to call through your phone,
you can get it to mimic your phone where it
picks up like if you have Apple or if you
have like Google Play or Android, it picks up like
your interface where your interface can go across like your
dashboard if you have like a like electronic dashboard. And
we was having issues getting it, so I was like,

(02:28):
you know what, there has to be a way around us,
because you know, it's a way around everything.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
And periodically I think.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
About what you what you you said something that really
stuck stuck with me. You was like, there's nothing that
you there's not a question or something that you're going
through that somebody else had not already figured out the
answer somewhere, it's just that you need to go kind
of figure out what the answer. So I started googling
and searching, and I ran across this reddit that was

(02:56):
like the model we have doesn't like it has the
feature there, but you can't access unless you get like
a higher model, like a different model.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
So I was like, well, how do you do it?

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Then they started suggesting things, and they have this thing
called a dongle. And what a dongle does. It takes
because the imaging like electronics stuff. It's been around for
a long time and depending on the make a model
of your car, you might not be able to do
certain things just because it's like an older version of
the car. And so this is a way to put

(03:28):
the Android version, or like the Apple version. It literally
mimics whatever you have in Most dongles actually are both
for both for both Android and Apple phones. So I
was like, I wonder if it's gonna work. So I
took a chance and not about one and I gave
it to Roger and I was like, I was like,
I hope it works, and so I actually did my research.
I was like, which one strings the best, connects the best? Actually,

(03:51):
you know, multiple can be used on multiple phones.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Which one can you do like.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
The street stuff like ways and all that stuff. And
it doesn't drag and drop like I really was watching
like a whole a lot of YouTube videos to see
kind of what was, you know, the best one, and
so I found one and I gave it to watch
you getting works. I'm very proud of myself because that
thing't bothered me because I was like, I wanted to
man make my phone and how does it work?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
I haven't used it yet.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, nah, I appreciate it. I put it on and
the car works good.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
It.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
You know, it's stuff for stuff like when you use
waves or Apple maps or whatever. And it showed you
directions and to show you on the in the center
console panel as opposed to not you know, you can
like mess with your YouTube because it's got like a
I mean not YouTube, because it's not stuff you can see.
It's stuff you can like hear like they like. So
you can't like watch TV on the ship. I'm sure

(04:43):
there's a way to do it, but I'm not gonna
do that shit.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
I'm pretty sure it is.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
But you can like do your Spotify on it, you know, like,
oh I want to listen to this podcast or whatever
and audio only, no video, And I saw you could
order Chick fil A on it too, but I I
didn't mess with it.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
And I also made sure I had one that could
work with your stern wheel, because they was like, these
are the ones where you know, if you're doing something,
you could still use the same control on your stern wheels.
You you don't have to reach over because you know
a lot of modern cars they have like to up
to down all that stuff in your stern wheel just
so you could continue to drive. And so some of

(05:22):
the dongles are like, you do that and some don't.
So I tried to make sure I got one it
did just for the simplicity of being able to just
keep your eyes on the road.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay for me, I'm I've been this kind of a
deeper thought. But this is something I've been thinking. It's
not really a joke or whatever, but I've been thinking
about how much people use social media to be outraged,
to like be mad, Like I don't know the day

(05:50):
that they even log in knowing that they intend to
be mad, but they are. And you know, I don't
like anger in general, not that we should lie about
our anger or hide it or push it down. But
I don't like people or myself to move out of

(06:13):
anger because I think it makes people illogical.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I agree, and I think.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
If you're telling the truth, if you're righteous, you should
be able to articulate, logically suk through something without it
without anger shutting it down.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Right. Yeah, And so.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
There was this thing that's been happening for the last
couple of years that I haven't really talked about on
the main show, but I've talked about a little bit
on boll Y Sports because it's sports related. But it
kind of came to a crescendo this weekend and it
made me think, like, and that's why I'm glad I
never really got in on board with that.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
And it's the sports race war. Now.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
We've of course talked about the Caitlyn Clark sports race
war at nauseum, and I think, you know, I feel
very vindicated in the things I said. I feel like
it all kind of came to fruition exactly as I
thought it would. And you know, you don't get a
lot of oh man, you know, I was disagreeing with you,
but you was right about that. You don't get that
passed it. Yeah, and so this one was a similar

(07:14):
thing for me. Dion Sanders and his sons and Colorado football.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
The talking point all fucking weekend.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
So for those that don't know, the NFL Draft was
this weekend. And his son, Shador, who was a really
good quarterback in college at Colorado and put up really
good numbers there.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
He uh did.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
He was in all these mock drafts projected to be
like first round pick, second round pick at worst, maybe
third at the very verse, and he got drafted, but
he didn't get drafted to the fifth round. And the
race war that this thing set off was insane, and

(08:07):
I it reminded me of Caitlin Clark in that there
was a lot of bad faith, racist white people or
trolls who I don't know, but hopping on social media
because of what they do now, they find these tent
pole content factories, these things that people want to talk about,

(08:27):
and they just say the most inflammatory things. So of
course they were just hating on this kid, hating on,
you know, talking shit about him, down to him and
knowing that black people will get mad about it. And
black people of course were getting mad about it. We're
human beings and no one likes to be antagonized. And
then of course you have you know, everything that's going

(08:48):
on with just the NFL historically, college football, historically, all
this stuff and the blackness of it all comes in
at Deon Sanders's black head coach of Colorado, black form
an NFL player, MLB player, son is of course black
because kids are black. But Deon Sanders is very well liked,

(09:10):
very well, like one of the most popular people on
the planet's he's one of the last few like actual
football celebrities. Like now we have people that are famous
that play football, but they're not celebrities, right, Like Tom
Brady's not really a celebrity. Dion was bigger than life
when he was playing, and bigger than life after the game.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
He's a personality, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Personality.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yes, polarizing at times, I'd say polarizing most of his life,
but not polarizing in my opinion along a racial divide.
Like there's been times he said and done stuff that
I thought was foul to black people, and black people
weren't fucking with them, right, And I'm sure at the
time white people did like that shit he was saying.
Not really a political guy, not very outspoken about anything really,

(09:57):
you know, Jesus, Jesus up and down, but that's football
for you. Very flashy, very flamboyant, and in those ways,
I think those indicators key to Black people because we're
very cool and flash flashy and flamboyant, and we stylistic
and we like glomb on the people that are icons
like that, whether they're standing for something or not, or

(10:18):
whether they're standing for themselves. We tend to like back
it up with blackness, like no, no, no, that's a
black person, and we are supporting them for being black,
even if that person is not necessarily supporting us back.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
In those ways.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Right, that being said, I've always liked and appreciated the
idea of Deon Sanders flamboyant athlete, but I did not
follow everyone down the rabbit hole of black college coach
doing it for black people at the HBCU. This is
all about blackness and what we need to do for
our institutions. I just didn't go down that rabbit hole

(10:53):
because I know we've known too much about Dion publicly
for so long, and he's mostly about himself. Right, you
can knock that if you want to, you can. You
can praise that if you want to. But I know
when I see a person that's just hyper brand focused
about them Reality TV show Dion, you know, Neon Dion,

(11:16):
like and and that's fine, Like I I don't expect
more of him, so it doesn't bother me. I can't
really be hurt or or you know, proud. It's just
kind of like a man, it's just Dion, you know.
And I think this is what happens a lot of
times with these big personality, especially black men personalities. But
at this point, pretty much everybody like it's it's extended

(11:39):
to a lot of different people that use blackness as
social capital when it's convenient for them.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Kanye West used to this, Ye, Kanye West will being
a racism when he can't get something he didn't he
didn't want, Like.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
He didn't he wanted a fashion deal, they didn't give
it to him.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
He was like, this is why fashion is racist and
black people, like a lot of people wonder.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Why so many black people support Kanye after he said
that shit.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'm like, because they were supporting him when he said
that stuff. Abou Katrina. They're supporting him when he said
that stuff about fashion and how it's racist because he's
not getting brand deals, and it's racist because he's not
getting Grammys, and it's racist because they were supporting him
and he was wanting to be supported by them. But
then whenever he didn't feel like being black that day,

(12:26):
it was like crickets right, And so you know, the
don thing for me was like the way he left
Jackson State.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm sorry. I'm not a.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Person that necessarily holds grudges in a way of like, oh,
I'll never fuck with him, but I'll never forget it
because I just don't. I just didn't think he needed
to throw that school and HBCUs in general and black
people in their communities in the gutter on the way
out right.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
That will never sit right with me.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I would have been totally fine if he were just
said I wanted a different opportunity.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I decided to go to the school.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But because he had preached a lot of blackness and
togetherness for the couple of years he was there, I
think he which you know, is a good sales pitch
to black people because we will come out and support
you when you talk like that. I think he felt
like he needed to like say it wasn't me who left.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's that, y'all, black people in this school and these
universities are bad. I'm good, and I'm moving on to
where it's better with white folks. I just don't think
he need to do that. People can disagree, if people
can go it's the truth. I don't know all that shit.
I just know that that never said right with me.
I just I think you just because something is true,

(13:45):
when you're in a position of leadership like that, shitting
on black people to go to a white university just
felt wrong to me. And I'll never get over that
as far as like just moving past it like it
didn't happen. And that's why I never jumped on to
the well. Now that he's in Colorado, he is the
black Deon Sanders, black head coach, black man speaking for
black people. I just I never was on board with that,

(14:07):
and I saw people go for it, and I saw
people do this thing where and this is what happens.
They don't watch college sports, right, they don't really consume
college football on a general basis, but for them, the
race war and race is their sport.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's just like Kaitlyn Clark. Most people didn't watch any
women's basketball at all before Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reees
got into that bullshit, and then it was I'm showing
up to support the black person. I'm showing up to
support this white person because what I'm really doing is
supporting the race war. I don't really give a fuck
about these women or this sport. I don't watch it anymore.

(14:49):
Whenever Angel Rees got hurt, I'm not watching WNBA Finals,
not watching the next year college for basket women's college basketball.
All of a sudden, I don't have opinion. And the
only time I want to bring it up page back
is it's a shit on Caitlyn Clark because I don't
really support her ass either. I'm not going to talk
about how cold a baller she is. I couldn't tell
you a single fucking stat of anybody. I just want

(15:12):
to pull up the racial grievance card because that's my pastime,
that's my pleasure. Being mad is my entertainment.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yes, and it's an addiction. It's an addiction.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
And so this week I felt like it was one
of those tenth pole moments where the racial pastime, the
hobby of racial anger, just went, it peaked, and I
didn't necessarily think that it was a straight line to race.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
So anyway, Shador doesn't get drafted.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I think what happened and Bomoni talked about it on
his podcast today and I agree with most of what
he said, But I think what happened was Deon Sanders
is extremely well liked. Cousin's extremely well liked because Colorado
was on TV way more than they ever were before,
and it was literally no pun intended prime time viewing it.

(16:12):
It was worth it, like people, and so you had
an influx of people that were rooting for blackness under
you know, the guys of Deon Sanders, and I knew
it was some bullshit when the black head coach didn't
fuck with Deon Sanders, and people was like flipping, like
this is racism, and I'm like, or that other black
man who's also one of the few black head coaches,

(16:34):
just don't fuck with that dude, Like that's it, like
these their rivals.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
But the fact that people try to turn it into like, well,
that man must be a coon. I said, Okay, yeah,
this is this is not about sports, y'all. Don't even
watch the other teams, y'all just watched Colorado root for
every week, and that's fine. I don't really like college
football like that. I follow it very passingly, but I
know enough to know that like Colorado wasn't playing the biggest,

(17:03):
their hardest schedule, Colorado also was a very shitty program
that Dion brought to relevance and way ahead of schedule
of what anybody said.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I did predict that.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
That what happened on our sports show when I brought
it up about how with the transfer portal when I am,
I said that Dion Sanders is going to turn that
program around in record time and no one's gonna be
ready for it. So far from a hater, I don't
say stuff, but I don't say that team is bad.
I don't say Dion's a bad coach. I don't say

(17:37):
anything negative. I've just been opting out of the race
part of like, you know, as a black man, I'm
like no as a Dion Sanders, same way as a
Kanye West, as a you know, there's these people out
here sometimes where it's like it's about them and then
sometimes it's about race, but mostly it's about them. Right,
So shitdor doesn't get drafted to the fifth round, and

(18:00):
we see this fall in the draft because all these
people had him at the top of the draft because
of everything. I just told y'all, it's content. At this point,
big name on games on TV all time father is
Deon Sanders. He has a very flamboyant style, braggadoche. It's
very you know, like he's in your face confident. You know,

(18:22):
some people don't like that shit, especially in black people.
They don't like, you know, over confident quote unquote arrogant blackness.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
But the whole time I was looking at this shit like,
I don't know. He could be good, he could not
be good. I don't College is very weird like that.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Motherfuckers will put up big numbers and then you just
find out, Oh, it's the program, or it's the due
he was throwing to, or you know, oh, now that
we actually have to evaluate their talent and how we
think they're doing. The NFL, it's just different than college.
Now it's like, oh he was holding the ball too long,
Oh he threw too an inceptions and shit that I'm like,

(19:02):
I honestly, I don't know, and I don't know how
people feel so confident shitting on or praising too much
of any of these college guys because they turn out
it turns out weird all the time.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, you have people that are like high draft picks
end up being a bus and not standing in the league.
And you have somebody that's further down in the draft
than one of the picks that aren't that aren't like
like guaranteed and ended up going on being Super Bowl champ.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I thought Bryce Young was sorry until halfway through last season.
Everything I'd ever seen of him in the pros was like, oh,
I guess he's not good, right. I wasn't hating, I
wasn't hoping he wasn't good. It was just like, fuck,
I guess sometimes it don't work, and then they change
one of two things and then it does work. Guy
like Johnny Manziel has to move around a bunch of
fucking times before it fucking you know, uh, before I

(19:52):
think he like flamed out of the league or whatever.
And then the dude that's currently playing for the what
was his name at quarterback, But like that dude, that
dude had to like persevere. He Baker Mayfield came in, arrogant, cocky, struggled,

(20:13):
moved around from team to team, Boom got it together
just two years ago and suddenly got paid. So, like,
I don't know how anyone feels confident about football predictions period.
I think it's really an exercise in our own arrogance.
And of course his content experts have to make what
the draft is is a TV show.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yes, everything, it's a big ass TV show.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
The Draft specifically is a TV show.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And what makes a compelling TV show is you find
some storylines and the drama, and you get the drama.
And so the storyline for this year was Shador Sanders.
I watched so much sports, like just in the background,
just during the day, and sports talk was always talking
about Shador Sanders the entire draft, Like I like you

(21:00):
you would have thought he was the number one draft pick?

Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know what? You would like?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Baby?

Speaker 6 (21:03):
You would you would have too, because it went it's
almost like is there anybody else in the draft? Like
he was literally no matter what sports show you talked about,
and they talked about him so much.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
This dude is hilarious.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
He made a video and they was doing like the Pope, uh,
the thing for the Pope, and they was like who
gonna be the Pope? And they were doing jokes and uh,
he came up Shadul Sanders, and then they was like
dn D and everybody sat down. They was like yeah,
and then they was like, yeah, the new pope gonna

(21:35):
be Shedell Sanders, and it was. But that's literally just
how much like if you didn't know anything, it wasn't
following you.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Was like most people would be like, I guess he
gonna be.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
One of the top picks because, like Roger say, they
literally talked about him twenty four to seven all the time.
To I, he got taught more than the number one
draft pick. I don't even know who number draft pick was.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, cam Ward was the number one draft pick who
is also a black quarterback who was very confident and
many would say kaki and arrogant.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
He was the number one pick.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
So that's another reason that I'm not doing this whole
like this is racism.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Right, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think what happened is your Dori Sanders was racism.
I'm just gonna say it like that now. You can
never completely erase racism from America. So it's racist in
the fact that like all the same racism that all
the other players are facing, he's facing but it was
not as specific like this black boy, we're gonna teach
him a lesson, right especially, And I don't think he

(22:35):
got black balled. I don't think it's like Kaepernick. Kaepernick
stood for something. I actually think and like this, this
what's been bothering me this whole time, is like then
did people even really respect what Kaepernick was doing or
did they just want to throw his name up there
to be like black man. And I'm mad at the NFL,

(22:56):
cause like Kaepernick stood for something, like when he he
took that knee, he articulated exactly why. Door is just
a kid, and he's a very confident kid. I don't
begrudge him for that. I hope he goes on to
be a great player too, But like he wasn't like
saying anything that would make the NFL not pick.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Him, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And because he's a young kid, I'm very cautious of
the fact that at some point you're gonna do some
shit that is not the pro black agenda.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
And these motherfuckers are going to flip on him.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yes they are, because that's not his doctrine or his play.
Like he doesn't talk about these things. He's not he's
not the guy the league is afraid to put in
front of a camera because he's gonna be too racially aware.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
He's gonna say the thing that the white men that
run the league don't want it.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Like I don't think that's what happened, and that's fine,
But I think so many puts someone And I did
say this about Dion when it last year, so many
I didn't realize how many black men look up to
him as.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like a like a aspirational figure.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
And I think my whole life, I've just kind of
looked at him as a singular figure, like, yes, he
is Dion Sanders. You can't make him stand for anything
other than Dion. Like I've never watched him and thought
man standing for the black man. I was just like, yeah,
he's just he's about himself and he's about his money
and all that shit. You know, made a song about

(24:24):
it anyway, all this stuff to say, looking at how
angry people got and how to me, like I said,
the logic didn't make it wasn't adding up, like to say, oh,
it's about racism, Is.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
It about racism? When cam Ward's going.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
First, like we're way past the point of we're being racist.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Against black quarterbacks to our detriment.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And the reason I'm only saying that is because money
won out, not because I think these white men that
run the league aren't racist. But unless that black quarterback
is up there talking about black lives matter every day,
they don't give a fuck. They're just like, we want
the money, and we want to do it on our team.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's it. You know, Even when.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
They were I would call colluding, although allegedly colluding, I
want to get sued against Lamar Jackson a couple of
years ago when he was about to be a free agent.
Even when that happened, I was like, that's about trying
to get the money. Like to them, they're like, what
we can't have is any of these quarterbacks going out

(25:28):
and using us against each other to get a whole
lot more money than we would have gave them. And
because he was the best quarterback in the league, a
record breaking the amount of money that they thought would
have broke the system. Now that being said, who knows
what would have happened if he was I don't know,
you know, because I think they've overpaid quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
We've seen that happen all the time. Yes, we had
Kirk cousins one.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Right, paying them all that money fucking suck.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, so we see them overpaid, but they wasn't trying
to break the salary cap whatever. But anyway, I didn't
care about so much about that. But my point being
like I never really got behind this whole Dion is
representing black people thing. And I think that's why I
was able to like sit back this week and just
kind of be like, Damn, people are addicted to being mad,

(26:18):
because like it's one thing to be mad when you're right,
it's another to be trying to like fit the logic
into something because you're so angry, you're just moving the
goal posting your own argument to be like, and this
is you know, see, they want to humble.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
They tired of these black men not being humble.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I'm like, have y'all seen Travis Hunter. That's not a
humble motherfucker. Motherfucker said. I am playing both positions in
the NFL defense and offense.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
And if they don't make if a team picks me
and I don't get to I will quit football. You
don't get.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
More confident that this is not what this shit is about.
They just don't think Shador Sanders is going to be
that good. Now, they could be wrong. I hope they're wrong.
I'm never rooting against any of these players, to be
honest to me, if they thought he was Travis Hunter
level skill set, he would have been there. And a

(27:12):
big thing that's been happening behind the scenes is that
Deon Sanders was his son's agent. And I don't know
if he was Travis's agent too, but he was definitely
a son's agent. He had two of them in there,
Shalloh and Shadoor. Anyway, the point is he was even
treating this process very flippidtly for his own kid, like, well,

(27:38):
it's only a handful of teams I'm gonna allow him
to go to and if they, you know, like if
he don't want then he ain't playing.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
If he don't if you draft him.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
And we told some teams no, and it was like, oh,
you're talking about him like he is a the number
one pick, because that's the kind of shit that was
with the number one pick. Rarely, but it does happen.
Eli Manning was one of these guys a long time ago.
He was the number one pick and his dad took
over the process. I don't think anyone thought he was

(28:07):
the number one level pick and unfortunately for him when
it came down to what people want to deal with
and shit, I think when people say it's about his father,
I'm like, it could be about his father as his agent,
Like I don't think it's about his father because like them,
white men loved Dion. Dion walks the line like yeah,

(28:27):
like that's why. That's why I like the reframing of this,
like he's some racial radical that they're the League is
afraid of.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
They fucking loved Deon SAMs.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
He helped, he made them so much money, and he
doesn't He don't say shit that that would fuck the
league up. Ever, Like he's like you ain't ever see
him come out and say something that made us go, goddamn, man,
I can't believe he called them out like that. That's
not his that's not his role, that's no one's expecting that.
So anyway, I know that's a long thing that wasn't

(28:57):
really funny, but it was. It just made me think,
like the addiction to anger is crazy, and when you
step out of it, like the way I was able
to step away from the like Caitlyn Clark thing and
just like watch it from a thousand feet away without
participating in it. Same thing I've done with Dion and
his whole like coaching arc. I've been able to watch
it from a thousand feet away without participating in it.

(29:17):
Because the reason I'm talking like this is because I
don't be on the internet going back and forth for
racist people people. But if you did, but if I did,
I'm not above that. If racist people were in my
mentions every time I brought up Dion or Colorado, I'm
sure if I was of the mindset to read that
shit and reply, it would start making me feel like, no,

(29:40):
this is Martin Luther, King of football, and y'all not
gonna talk about my black leader, Deon Sanders and his son.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
But that that hasn't happened for me, you know. Similar
with Lebron. I haven't felt like this thing with him
and stephen A has turned into a like man to see,
this is what they do to black fathers like I
don't like. It doesn't even have to get to that.
To me. I think stephen A don't like Lebron. That's

(30:10):
that's all it needs to be for me. The world
doesn't need to try to take him down because he's black, Sony,
these niggas are jealous because he's Lebron you know who
happens to be a black man. So anyway, all that
to say, like, uh, this weekend was crazy watching that
shit go down the timeline and people turning on each

(30:30):
other and getting mad at each other because or whatever.
But I think really between therapy reading conflict is not abused,
and just like stepping back from a lot of the
like online discourse, especially having the podcast, I just remember
how much I used to feel everything I used to
feel I was. I was so easily moved by other

(30:52):
people's anger and other people's conflict, and now it's like
like it's like I'm on a train in a different
car and I'm looking at it in their car and
they all fighting and I'm just like, yeah, not for me.
And it's not that I never get angry. It's just like,
when I get angry, I own it because it's mine.
It's one hundred percent off of me. Yes, it's not

(31:13):
because y'ally was mad or because so and so was
saying something. It's not it's because I genuinely feel that way.
But uh, the last thing I'll say for our move
on is the other part that really gets my eyebrows
up about this kind of stuff. I don't like black

(31:35):
people that do the I'm gonna use the racial part
of this when it's convenient for me, but I don't
really speak up or stand for black people. And so
then we end up supporting these people and when they
do pull a Kanye later and we go, man, they
portrayed the community, I'm like.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Did they did?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
They? Did?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
They?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Though?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Like at least with Kanye he spoke about black shit,
Like at least you got four or five years of
his career where he was talking about black issues and race.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
I don't like, I don't know that Dion did that.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Not in no way that would make me want to
be like, yeah, man, I gotta stand up. I gotta
stand ten toes down for this dude.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
It just feel like.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Whenever it's time for these people to move on, they
just move on, you know, And stephen a'le say a
couple of good things about race, and then people are
ready to bring them back, and then it's like, nah,
that's it's about stephen A.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
It's not about us, you know, it's US is different.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
US is US is different than when US is when
people speak about us, they're consistent about it. But like
you say, the thing is in a lot of celebrities
and a lot of people have done this all of
a sudden, they're very quiet on race and racism and
blackness and all that stuff. But you let them get
in trouble or you let something happen to them all
of a sudden, they're black and they're coming towards us.

(32:56):
And I understand that you brought this up. We are
such a figiving people to a fault because at some
period of time we got to realize that everybody that
speaks about black and blackness is not for the group
nor to call well.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Some of these don't even speak for black people in blackness.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Right at all.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Like that's what's crazy to me. And like.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Just without putting anybody's information out there, there are there
was a lot of scuttle but about how the like
draft process was handled through Dion Sanders for his kids.
You know, one of his kids actually went and got
an agent after the draft was like got Drew Rosen house,

(33:35):
which says a lot.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
The fact that you were able to get Drew Rosa house.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
That's part of being deon Sander's kid, because he wasn't
even the one that people thought was gonna get drafted,
like so so like to be able to get Drew
Rosa House was a big name for a big name agent,
means like you got connections. But people were like, well,
they picked people before him that might that weren't even
as good as him. I'm like, one, that's what we think.

(34:01):
All of them gonna have a chance to prove it.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
In the NFL.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
We'll see, maybe they will be good better than him,
maybe they won't. But two, if you fucked off the
draft process, if you fucked off the interviews, if your
father was talking about he might not want to go
to your team, it'll be up to me that teams.
Teams are going to And it's not even about feelings.
I'm just talking about probability team. I'm not talking about

(34:24):
people getting offended. Like that's the thing. Everyone made it
into something personal. A team might it's all risk assessment.
They're just like, you know what, we don't want the
guy who, in our minds we thought would have been
the third best quarterback on our roster when they came in.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
We don't want him having.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
The ego of you know, the chosen one, like we
don't want to have to deal with his dad being
his agent and being in the media shitting on us.
You know, it's not like LeVar Ball was his son's agent, right,
Like there's a level to it where I can see
how a team arrives at that conclusion without it being

(35:03):
like we hate this black this black person because they black.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
No, it's a lot of other variable And.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Like somebody say, it's a job interview, and so people
are interviewing you for a job, and it's like, you're
not making you making this. The things that you do
will reflect on if you get the job and where
you place at that job.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
And they're making people have to come out and leak
the shit. I think this This is different to me
than the character assassination that happens whenever they decide to
like destroy somebody, because we've seen that before, like because
a lot of times and the reason that that happens
a lot of time with these teams, they actually do
it so they can get the player. That's what's fucked up.
They'll be like, I want to lower this guy's value.

(35:43):
So all of a sudden, the elite comes out and
it's like Daz Brian was terrible in his propregm in
his interviews, and it's also somebody can go, well, you
just drop them a couple more spots, we might get
them on our team, and then das Brian still ends
up going as a high pick because everybody's like emmitst talent.
We're not scared off by that ship at all. They
drafted people number one that literally were involved in in

(36:07):
vehicular homicide. They've drafted people number one that have been
like criminals. So this isn't about like if they thought
he was talented enough, they wouldn't give a fuck about
any of this shit.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
They just don't think he's good enough to justify the
attitude or the lack of preparation.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Risk assessment.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
There's all risk assessment shit.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
So it's kind of wild that people were able to
be manipulated into just like race war, and.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
It's so that simple. It's always easy.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's so easy, it's scaring.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
Gender Wars is the most simplest ship to get people
to argue.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
It's scary to me.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I think a lot of the loyalty that Shannon Sharp
engendered over the last couple of years is only because
Skip baylessing him got into those arguments, and when Skip
disrespected him as a black man, you know, with to
put your glasses back on, it felt very racial for us,
and so people then turned him into like a racial hero,
but he never was.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
He don't talk about us or for us like that.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
No, he talks about him.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
He talks about Shannon Sharp and the things he wants
to do. When he was able to turn the other
cheek for Skip and act like it was no big deal,
people was like mad at him, and I'm like, but
that makes sense. He's about his money. That was a
great teav segment. He's not gonna crash out on the
air everybody. He's gonna choke Skip. He gonna do No,
He's not. That dude is one of the most singular

(37:32):
focused men on his brand and his money I've ever seen.
When it comes to just like I'm gonna get to
the bag, and so he got to the bag. But
then it means it because people fall for this like
he's our racial hero. Shit, when when all the other
cracks start coming out, the blatant misogyny that that he

(37:53):
revels in, yes, and you just excuse it. The messiness
of his Shannon Sharp Club shay Shape podcast that it
just started so much riff raft and if he was
if that was a woman, people the same people that
go up for him would be hating him. They would
be like, I don't understand how he gets away with
doing terrible interviews. They hate DJ Blad, but they love

(38:15):
Shannon Shark.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know what I'm saying, Like just weird shit like
that that I've picked up on.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Over the years, And I went, no, Shata Shark, not
not joining in on this, not my hero entertaining entertaining.
I feel like I'm far from a hater, you know,
Steven A. Smith entertaining like this isn't about shitting on
these people.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
It's just they do their jobs every well.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
You have to accept them for who they are and
what they are, and these are who these people are.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
And so.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I think a lot of people end up looking silly
in the long run because you look up and it's like,
why are you holding on the Shannon Shark? What is
he giving you to hold on to? Miles and yack
like racial stereotypes that he did on on the airwaves
and then turn around and told black women to be
nice to Caitlyn Clark and this white woman gonna get

(39:03):
y'all some money.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
So y'all need to shut up, Like, who the fuck?
Why are we? Why are we applauding him? What? What
does he really staying for? Why is that my? My?
The bashing of blackness? You know. So it's stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I've just really been seeing through the last few years,
and I just wanted to use this time to bring
that up.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
No problem, anyone, Oh sorry, it's no problem. I got
one more excuse me, and it's just a short one.
When we got this box that I have, and i've
I've had it for years where I keep all like
the important documentations and you know the ship did they
tell you supposed to keep you in your birth certificate

(39:44):
and so secure and all this type of stuff. Well,
today I went through it and I started cleaning it.
Lord High Mercy, I can't speak bad about my mama
no more. I turned into ABU. I'm that old ass
lady because when I went through that ship, it was
shipped from from jobs. I don't have no more assurances.
I don't have no more TVs. We don't throw away.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
I had paperwork on cars we don't drive no more.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
THEMP shits was like twenty and twenty nine, I mean
two thousand and nine, two thousand and three, two thousand, Like,
what the fuck am I was like, oh, because I'm
because and I think it was a paranoid thing in
my mind. I was like, if these bitches ever come
back and tell me something, I want to have it
in paperwork, like like and I done got better now
because I'm like, okay, let's move on to uh, you

(40:31):
know reality as far as you know paperless. But back then,
I was like, if that computer glitch or something happening,
y'all come looking at me, I'm gonna put out the paperwork,
but I'm gonna fucking out with your computer. Say here's
the paperwork, bitch. So and that's what my mind was
at that period of time. So I went through in
a lot of that stuff, which I actually do not
need anymore, don't even apply no more, we don't pay
the loans on.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I got rid of all that shit.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, nah, that was Yeah, we did have some old
stuff in there. It was just like, wow, what is it.
I don't even remember this car?

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Did we have that Toyota?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I don't remember? Yeah, and I did.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I do want to bring up one more thing about
the sdor saying this thing because I just know someone's
gonna email in about it. And once again, I'm not
trying to piss anybody off. I'm just trying to be
as clear minded and honest as I can be, so
you know, I'm not joining in the phrase specifically because
of that. I'm you noticed I didn't call nobody stupid
or dummies or whatever, because I think it's important to

(41:28):
say these things without malice.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Or anger intent.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
People will pick up on ship if they and the
projected onto me, but I'm not.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I'm not doing any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm not calling anybody race baters or stupid or any
of that shit.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I just I just think we.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Are all hurting and people are finding the cold in
commiserating and being like, at least we got the co
at least were together, and I'm like, I don't want
to be miserable though. So one there was a prank
played on Shador during the draft, and it happened to

(42:03):
a couple of other kids too, but people someone got
his phone number and pretended to be like a team
that was drafting him, and they got caught on tape
and everything, because you know, he was live streaming it
or whatever, and it was very hurtful, very fucked up.
He was already going through a slide in most people's mind, right,
it was. It was one of the most it was.

(42:24):
It was a very fucked up thing to do. And
they found out it was the kid of the defensive
coordinator of like the Falcons or something. And the kid
apologized through a statement, and the team said they're gonna
do like reach out to the family. And you know,
people were like, there's no discipline gonna happen to the coach,
Like why why aren't they doing something to the coach,

(42:47):
And once again, you're just angry.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
What's to be done to that coach? Coach didn't do it,
Like the coach got a fucked up kid. That's what
it is. That kid is fucked up.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
One of the statements was like he's a good kid,
or someone put out a statement column a good kid,
and I was like, that's not a good kid.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
First all, he's twenty one.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Now if you do some bullshit like that, first.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Of all, he's twenty one, right, Number one, Number two, No,
that's not good. There's not a good way to spend it.
It's not harmless. The kid put the video on social media,
so he wanted people to know it was him because
content over everything, right like that, And so people want
to like, I don't even know what they want done

(43:31):
to the coach.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
It's like they want them fired or something. But that's
not it.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
But more than likely the kid violated his father's privacy
and shit to get that number, yes, because.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
He ain't had no business with that number in the
first place.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Steven A.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Smith was on TV talking about the kid need to
be beat up and ship by his dad and stuff.
I'm just like, this is crazy, and I'm sure for
Stephen a Is it's because him and Dion text and
their friends, and so he got to go on TV
and stand up for him in a way he would
never stand up for I don't know Colin Coppernick, who
actually was speaking up and black balled, and then you

(44:04):
went on TV and excouriated him instead.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Of the league for that ship.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
So yeah, it's just a lot of like weird allies
and bad fellows on this joint. But all right, that's
that was got a little deep and we actually don't
have that much time, so I'm.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Gonna move into some other stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Rock and roll Hall of Fame inductions uh were announced.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Okay, got new crop this year.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
M apparently got some new entrance for this year.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
And they're gonna also be doing like a tribute to
artists during the during it. So the newest entrance announced
during the live broadcast are Bad Company Chubby Checker. I
would have thought he was in already it, right, the
twist was I thought, But maybe he didn't need a
motor One hit. I don't know, but he had a

(44:58):
lot of twists. Yeah, more twist to m Night Shyamalan,
It's yes, it did. Joe Cocker, Cindy Lapper.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
I'd have thought she would have been in it.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Out Cast, Wow, that's big, out cast with a K
because the South got something to say.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Let's go on sound Garden and the White Stripes.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I like that list the people that didn't make the
cut this year with the Black Crows, Billye Idol Manna
and Fish. Fish didn't make it. Wow, right, all first
time nominees.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
M hm hm hmm. All right.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm surprised Fish didn't make it. I'mnna be honest, but
maybe that's just because I worked with a dude that
was a fishhead or whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
They called themselves huge.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
I don't know everybody on that list, but there are
some people. I was like, you, she'd have been on
the list.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
And it seems like Mariah carrying Oasis didn't make it,
and Enjoy Division and New World Order didn't make it
this year. I'm surprised Mariah didn't make it this har
second year two that she was eligible and didn't make it.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, So the veteran jam band Fish won the fan
vote with almost three hundred and thirty thousand, about fifty
thousand more than the next highest Bad Company. But contrary
to proper belief, winning the fan VOULT does not guarantee induction,
so they didn't get in.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Because of that.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
They're also going to be recognizing Salt and Pepper and
Warren Zevon or Zevon will be recognized.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
With the Musical Influence Award. What does that even mean?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I think it's like a celebration of like their impact
on the game. So it's like, oh, Salt and Pepper,
you know, these iconic women rappers that spawned so many
other people, But they're not an They're not getting inducted.
I don't know if that means they're already in or what.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I don't know how that works, Okay, I'm just asking.
I don't know either, but I thought that's cool that
they getting in.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Yeah, I'm really happy for out Came.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
I mean they're getting a tribute same and yeah man
our cast Wow wow. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
As somebody who basically was around their whole span, you know,
that means something to me and uh for me as
somebody from the South, you know, eighty.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Five right up the road.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
And it was one of those things I remember when
they went out a word, it was like the South
got something. The South was like, yeah, you know, like
it means something from somebody coming from the South, particularly
at that time, because everybody act like hip hop is
was New York centric, which I understand, but they act
like nobody else was impacted by hip hop and if

(47:42):
it wasn't quote unquote New York hip hop, it wasn't
real hip hop.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
And that's not the same.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
We all maybe wrap at different catuses and just like
they wrapped about subways and things that they wrapped about
cars and shit, because that's what we do down here.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
And also, what I thought was cool about them was
they was so impactful on the game that eventually like
all the other coasts, and people started biting off the South,
Like I still remember when like you would hear like
Jada kiss on a crunk song and shit, and I'm like,
that's the influence and I'm not against that kind of shit.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
I actually like when we blend together.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I know a lot of people get very territorial and
stand offish, but I like, I love to see the
combination of people coming together out of mutual respect, not
just stealing the shit and trying to like do it,
but like being like, yo, what would Jada kiss sound
like on a on a Little John song?

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I want to hear that, right.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
And also, you know, because I love rap, I love
the coast, East coast.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
West Coast, how we all kind of influence each other.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
And honestly, because we all influence each other, eventually we
start the genre starts evolving, the genre starts changing. You
have more blending, you know, because as somebody who you know,
I don't really know a lot of West Coast rappers,
but the ones that I do know, I like a lot,
you know what I'm saying, And it's one of those
things where they got introduced to me, you know, through

(49:05):
everybody just kind of being the big, big ass mixing pot.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yeah, so I brought up ray Kwan. Don't skill it
on the barbie. That was it. Man.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I still remember that ship where I was like, wait
is that ray Kwan?

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Like what challenges?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Back it up? I was like, who nah, that's not
that is ray Kwan? Like that was? That was good?
Those good times.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
That was back when I buy the CD and just
throw it in my fucking my my player in my
car without even looking at the tracks because I'll just
get it straight from the store and put it in
and then just I would be surprised at the features
because I hadn't had a chance to look it over
and be like, oh, ray Kwan is on here.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
Yeah, we found some we found some cities, and was like,
wait a minute, we ain't got no CD player.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I think this is a big thing we've been talking about,
and I predicted that this would happen. So of course,
you know, I have to take my get my flowers
from myself. But Ziff Davis and I gn Ziff Davis
is a company, not a person. Okay, you think Ziff

(50:09):
Davis and IGN sue Open AI for copyright.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Infringement, yep, you said that.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I told y'all, it's not the little people.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
It was gonna be these big companies with some money
that was gonna be the ones.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
To be like, hey, stop stilling.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
You're just stealing.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
That's what everybody's been saying. You're just stealing.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Pray, what was that again?

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah, right, baby, you're just stealing. And I've listened to
like professionals and podcasts kind of over the years talk
about this and going to real deep depth about what
a I does, and they basically like, it just goes
through and comb It doesn't come up with anything new.
It doesn't come up with anything creative because it's not

(50:55):
its ideal. So when they talk about this a I,
she is like, oh, y'all aren't coming up with anything
they knew.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
You're just taking some shit, mixing and blending it together.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I told y'all, man, it's a griff, right, It's actually
not intelligent. It's just copying people's homework. It's not coming
up with anything new or by itself. It's just going,
here's some work a human already did. Let me copy
that and paste it and tell you that it's something
new and sell it like I like, now, let me

(51:25):
keep that person from making money. Like when Google returns
you some AI results instead of linking you to the
website that has stole those results from that's someone's revenue
that is now keeping you on the Google dot com
and not whatever information you was looking for.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
Right, And what's so sad?

Speaker 6 (51:45):
A lot of these sites, particularly Google has wouldn't be surprising.
I don't know the statistic if a lot of people
stop using Google as much, because Google used to be
the most accurate site. But once they was like, oh
we're gonna go to AI, tell them what you're gone.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, And I don't even know if people stop using
it or not. I don't know what the stats are.
But the point is they had already made themselves a brand, right,
They're just cashing in on the brand. To search for
something means to google it. Yes, that's people say that.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
You know. It's like xerox means the copy right.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And so at this point they they'll never lose as
much of the brand as they gained, meaning no matter
how shitty those results are, no matter the fact that
they switched it, and it's not really giving you what
you what Google now doesn't mean what it used to mean.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Google used to.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Mean here's some links to some experts. Now it means
here's a copy and paste from an AI that may
or may not have.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Got it right.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Who knows right, depending on the algorithm we told.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
It to search.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, and so now you got a completely different paradigm.
And I guarantee you that people are getting less accurate results.
But they but it to Google's like we stole it.
You know, who gives a fuck? So anyway, I love
to see that they're being sued. I know that not
the only ones that are suing Open the Eye.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I forget the other. I want to say, New York.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Times is suing them their money, go sue them and
Ziff Davis.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
It's big, they do.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I gn Mashable, c net, Zd's, net, PC mag Life, Hacker,
Baby Center, everyday.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Hell.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
They seen their profits dropping somebody and they got the
money to be like why, And somebody investigated and was like, hey,
we did it, and it hits here and the people
never cook the sights and somebody said the fuck.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
And they just taking your word for word, the work
that you put in right and just being like, oh no,
the AI says It's like the AI didn't say that Ai.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Said, yeah, I stole that, Yes you did. This is
my work.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
So yeah, I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I appreciate that happening, and I hope it continues to happen.
Keep sewing them all Right, We got to get out
of here because I have a hard out at eight.
I got another previous engagement with a podcast. But we
will have a little bit of soord ratchetness before we
hop off. This bad boy here we go.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
A sword and drove off in a police car after
being pulled over for reckless driving. Is sitting in the
Davis County jail. The police chase crossed state lines from
Warwick County, Indiana to Davis County, Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Thirty one year old Nina Davilli is facing a string
of charges. Today, eyewitness new Sydney Davis sat down with
Davilli for an exclusive jailhouse interview.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Okay, now you know she's crazy because.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
In addition to driving them across state lines or whatever
county lines, the fact that you would want to do
an interview with the news at before you even had
a trial, like you already had a sword mail, Like
I got a feeling that you. I got a feeling
she's not about to be the best interview as far
as getting her logical points across, that's my guess.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
We do want to note that police identified the Villi
as a man, but the Villi told us she identifies
as a woman.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Communicate with me, dog, like, just talk to.

Speaker 8 (55:21):
Me behind bars and still recovering from gunshot wounds. Need
to Vla tells me the high speed chase that landed
her here.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
First of all, the resilience to be able to get
shot and then give an interview.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
That's that, and like, ain't putting no cameras in my face.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I would be laying in the hospital bed with the
things beeping, drugged up, and she's already out here, like,
well listen, okay, First of all, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Even stab that many people.

Speaker 8 (55:49):
Wasn't a part of some master plan. But it all happened.
Just before ten am on Monday, a traffic stopped for
reckless driving in Chandler, Indiana.

Speaker 9 (55:57):
On camera shipped the swords swing she that shit and
she got a helmet on too, which make you know,
obviously you're not gonna be able to just physically accost
that person like.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Ooh, she like she didn't get killed, right.

Speaker 8 (56:11):
And ends with the police vehicles stolen, the police call
the person on force.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Wow, there's some grand theft auto ship.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
And has deemed responsible. Nina Davilli says she was how
did the check on a front who shared they had
experienced domestic violence the night before.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
To say, hey, what's up? You're doing okay?

Speaker 3 (56:30):
So I was?

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I was, you know, I was in a hurry, but
I was not like being reckless for nothing.

Speaker 8 (56:34):
She accidented the vehicle with her hands up. She says
her first intention.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Was this, By the way, I know it's not funny,
but this chase looked like some Reno.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Nine one one.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Shit it does the way he's chasing her around that
car and she's running out all over.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
The does you can't lie? They got you on video.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Talk to the officer and shout out to whoever recorded this.
They holding the camera steady. Now they didn't turn it sideways,
but they holding it steady.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
Like that's all you need, just hold the stays zooming in,
zooming out right, No turn it.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Yeah, of communication made her easy.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
She said, get on the ground.

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Get on the ground.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Now, I got this feeling and mean like if I
got on the ground leaving cover, I'm not leaving this
place alive.

Speaker 8 (57:13):
That's when she says she grabbed a foam sword.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
I said, hey, a foam sword.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, that is crazy because you could have got killed
by the cops with a sword that can't even hurt them.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
But sword, why, this.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Is a toy sword dog. It's a LARP sword. I'm
just I'm just keeping my space.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
From you because a LARP sword. Is this a joke?
This is really heaving?

Speaker 5 (57:36):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Wow? Wow? What are you doing? Trust him?

Speaker 8 (57:41):
In this video?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I now see why she didn't get shot right away there.
Because I'm not saying she shouldn't have got shot or whatever.
I just but if that was a LARP sword, I
could see the cop being like, come on, just you're
stealing my cruiser, Dug, get out the car.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Right on his side, it's just more annoying than right, yeah,
like I don't want to kill you.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
What the fuck?

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Philly can be seen swinging it at the officer.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
What live actual role play is you ever seen grown ups?
That's what it was. It was a toy sword dog.
It was made out of Camp Madden foam, and it
is inspected and regulated. Now, this one actually bought from
a professional This is not what I even made myself.
I bought from a professional, and it was made. It's
made specifically to hit someone with full contact and not
enter them at all, so he was completely safe.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
That that's that's that's insane. That's an insane thing to say.
That's an insane thing to say, Hey, I'm the consoles
of No, that is not meant to hurt you. That
I'm swinging this sortitude. She must have been going through
like some sort of mental health epidemic. It's an episode.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Then you still in their vehicle.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah, it's no way problem. This was not logical things.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
The fact that she's sitting there trying to explain it
logically is the funniest part. Like she don't have to
look back at there's an interview and be like, damn,
I was wild.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
With the Chandler police officer fires several shots at the
VILLI who into the officers patrol vehicle.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Well, I think the first time I had my hands
up like this instinctively.

Speaker 8 (59:04):
The one hundred and thirty miles per hour speed chase
all the way until she controlled the Chandler police quest and.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
This time looked like something outter justified. This ain't no
major city.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
You're in the field, just past Owensboro Racing and Gaming.
Law enforcement says. She then ran about three hundred yards
and attempted to fight a Davis County deputy before being taped.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Kentucky to get into some cops over here to be like,
how do you report a crime? I've been shot. I'm
not going to the same police department that shot me
to report that crime if I had known that he
was Davis County.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
To report that crime. All Right, y'all, that's it. I
gotta go. That's the list, everybody. It was a good episode.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
We'll get to more stuff, I'm sure during the next.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Episode or something. All Right, y'all, till next time. I
love you.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I love you too.